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schestowitz-TR2we got ti right again! github layoffsFeb 10 03:37
schestowitz-TR2psydruid: to elaborate a bitFeb 10 04:46
schestowitz-TR2for a long time clownflare toleratedFeb 10 04:46
schestowitz-TR2copyright infringementsFeb 10 04:46
schestowitz-TR2nazi sitesFeb 10 04:47
schestowitz-TR2until 2017 iircFeb 10 04:47
schestowitz-TR2because of daily stormerFeb 10 04:47
schestowitz-TR2and did not think a cdn should be in internet policing businessFeb 10 04:47
schestowitz-TR2so what you see above ia a hateful campaign for an irish transphobeFeb 10 04:47
schestowitz-TR2against an american who defends the first amendementFeb 10 04:47
schestowitz-TR2not wishing to deplatform siteFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2as a cdnFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2so this sinister 'activism' is in fact an attack by mjg on the internet itselfFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2sort of like putinFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2gulagboy is an irish putinFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2'cleansing' the netFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2and riling up lunaticsFeb 10 04:48
schestowitz-TR2ignore the colourful languageFeb 10 04:49
schestowitz-TR2the bad language is a secondary issuFeb 10 04:49
schestowitz-TR2on the upside, i can now show more about graveleyFeb 10 04:50
schestowitz-TR2whom gulagboy was rushing to 'defend'Feb 10 04:50
schestowitz-TR2to say he was wrongly reported onFeb 10 04:50
schestowitz-TR2nopeFeb 10 04:50
schestowitz-TR2it is worseFeb 10 04:50
schestowitz[TR2]https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/01/05/1354254Feb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]"Feb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]As projected here back in October, there is now a class action lawsuit, albeit in its earliest stages, against Microsoft over its blatant license violation through its use of the M$ GitHub Copilot tool. The software project, Copilot, strips copyright licensing and attribution from existing copyrighted code on an unprecedented scale. The class action lawsuit insists that machine learning algorithms, often marketed as "ArtificialFeb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2] Intelligence", are not exempt from copyright law nor are the wielders of such tools.Feb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]The $9 billion in damages is arrived at through scale. When M$ Copilot rips code without attribution and strips the copyright license from it, it violates the DMCA three times. So if olny 1% of its 1.2M users receive such output, the licenses were breached 12k times with translates to 36k DMCA violations, at a very low-ball estimate.Feb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]"If each user receives just one Output that violates Section 1202 throughout their time using Copilot (up to fifteen months for the earliest adopters), then GitHub and OpenAI have violated the DMCA 3,600,000 times. At minimum statutory damages of $2500 per violation, that translates to $9,000,000,000," the litigants stated.Feb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]Besides open-source licenses and DMCA (§ 1202, which for­bids the removal of copy­right-man­age­ment infor­ma­tion), the lawsuit alleges violation of GitHub's terms of ser­vice and pri­vacy poli­cies, the Cal­i­for­nia Con­sumer Pri­vacy Act (CCPA), and other laws."Feb 10 04:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Microsoft, GitHub, and OpenAI Sued for $9B in Damages Over Piracy - SoylentNewsFeb 10 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]it also goes years back, YEARSFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2]with several incidents of eachFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2]many victims apparentlyFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:19] <schestowitz> my wife is reading the police reportFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:20] <Source> What police report?[18:20]Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2]<Source> The one I sent you the affidavit?Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:23] <Source> Sorry lost you thereFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:24] <schestowitz> yesFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:24] <schestowitz> I got:Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:24] <schestowitz> [18:20] <Source> The one I sent you the affidavit?Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:24] <schestowitz> [18:23] <Source> Sorry lost you thereFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:25] <schestowitz> maybe there's some software to tell the phone not to turn off network when idleFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:25] <schestowitz> some media players are capable of doing soFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:25] <Source> Yeah I wish there was like caffeine for iPhoneFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:26] <Source> I use that on my laptop and it's helpful.Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:26] <schestowitz> I don't use mobileFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:26] <schestowitz> but I heard of "caffeine"Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:28] <Source> So that document is more of a petition to the courts[18:28] <schestowitz> it's quite strongFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:28] <Source> To establish probable cause and acquire a warrant [18:28] <schestowitz> if past victims add to itFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:28] <Source> Caffeine is just a Mac app that keeps your laptop from going to sleep[18:28] <schestowitz> then the warrant is stronger, I guessFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> Well they're both legal documents from a US court systems perspectiveFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> As long as you're using the word allegations are fineFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> Because the police wrote this documentFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> Basically the police arrested him and wrote a report which we don't haveFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> And it looks like a couple of days later they went to the court because Alex had run awayFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> And they went to the court and said hey we have probable cause to arrest this guy can you issue a warrant[18:29] <schestowitz> it would be good to have hard material for thatFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:29] <Source> My friend from France explained to me that the police don't need probable cause in Europe[18:30] <Source> I'm not sure what it's like in the UKFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:30] <Source> But he said that they can just like tell you to empty your pockets for no reasonFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:30] <schestowitz> I'm not sure eitherFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:30] <schestowitz> IANALFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:30] <Source>  yeah so this document is basically just a bunch of paperwork saying that that you have a right to arrest and search Alex's person [18:31] <Source> And that he's going to have to go to court docket to see if the prosecutor wants to  it [18:31] <Source> It's sort of like a notification that he needs to go to court to deal with this[18:32] <Source>  because in the US we have all these rights around search and seiFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2]zure because of the constitution there's more paperwork basically[18:33] <Source> In france they can arrest you and question you without probable cause[18:33] <Source> Not that that doesn't happen that the US. Police make up probable cause all the time[18:33] <Source> Which is what Black Lives Matter is complaining aboutFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:34] <schestowitz> I see...Feb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:34] <schestowitz> thanks for cluing me upFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:34] <schestowitz> outside my knowledgebase so to speakFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:34] <Source> Yeah so it's a court document. It has more weight than a police reportFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:35] <Source> It means that a officer didn't decide that there was probable cause. It means that the court agreed on the probable cause and that's why he was able to get arrested even though he wasn't in the act of a crime[18:37] <schestowitz> I seeFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:38] <Source> There will be another police report about the actual arrest but i haven't gotten it yet[18:39] <Source> Obviously you should fact check what I said. These are Travis County Court proceedings. [18:41] <schestowitz> thanksFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:41] <schestowitz> I will cover this slowlyFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:41] <schestowitz> once per weekFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:41] <schestowitz> so there's time to verify and relate to current news beatsFeb 10 04:57
schestowitz[TR2][18:41] <schestowitz> like Nat 'leaving'Feb 10 04:57
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techrightssecThe one post mentions GitLab without specifying the connection or lack of  Feb 10 05:42
techrightssecconnection between GitLab and M$ GitHub.Feb 10 05:42
schestowitz-TR2the one post tnat i saw  frist was a microsoft moleFeb 10 07:03
schestowitz-TR2mariaFeb 10 07:03
schestowitz-TR2she had the audscity to use gitlab logo in article about githublayoffsFeb 10 07:03
schestowitz-TR2way to confuseFeb 10 07:03
schestowitz-TR2these criminals larned from the 90sFeb 10 07:03
schestowitz-TR2they need to infltrate andnbribe the mediaFeb 10 07:03
schestowitz-TR2like gangs and mafia infikltrate the polite and the stateFeb 10 07:03
techrightssecPure misdirection. Feb 10 07:04
techrightssecThat there is no connection between GitLab and GitHub is important thenFeb 10 07:04
schestowitz-TR2your code runs nicely,  thank youFeb 10 09:24
schestowitz-TR2atm i have a massive file with all the html shownFeb 10 09:24
schestowitz-TR2no  easy way to fold/unfoldFeb 10 09:24
schestowitz-TR2so this cascading ui can help navigateFeb 10 09:25
schestowitz-TR2i forgot how beatiul it is to read news without any images and other diversionsFeb 10 09:25
schestowitz-TR2INCLUDING Linux newsFeb 10 09:25
techrightssecnpFeb 10 11:11
schestowitz-TR2Dawah. ☞ https://www.michigandaily.com/campus-life/global-islamic-studies-center-hosts-islamic-thought-and-civilization-event/Feb 10 11:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.michigandaily.com | Islamic Center hosts 'Islamic Thought and Civilization' eventFeb 10 11:28
schestowitz-TR2"I remember growing up adamant that I would never have children. A large part of this was because I hated hospitals, blood and the thought of childbirth." ☞ https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/in-our-society-motherhood-is-an-expectation-rather-than-a-choice-children/Feb 10 11:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.michigandaily.com | Society should see having children as a choice, not an expectationFeb 10 11:30
schestowitz-TR2they fucked around with the headline somewhatFeb 10 11:31
schestowitz-TR2the editor projectingFeb 10 11:31
schestowitz-TR2the "don't want to 'insult' readers who have kids" BSFeb 10 11:32
schestowitz-TR2maybe inc. the editor whose feelings and choices get challengedFeb 10 11:32
schestowitz-TR2and ADVERTISERS'Feb 10 11:32
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schestowitz-TR2draft Feb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2would be worth linking to a page with a list of linksFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2i know only 3 offhanFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2there are dozens, maybe hundredsFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2sometimes the simpler ones are betterFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2not over-engineeredFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2easier to learnFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2like cgitFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2many lists of github alternatives would be lists of sites, not softwareFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2as ifgit itself is never worth learningFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2or as if developers are boors who cannot study how to use itFeb 10 12:02
schestowitz-TR2and don't know how to use emailFeb 10 12:02
techrightsseccheckingFeb 10 12:03
techrightssecmight mention a list of M$ GitHub competitors in addition to GitLabFeb 10 12:03
techrightssecI'm not sure of a summary of version control hosting services.  Feb 10 12:03
techrightssecbtw did techcrunch go away, it seems to have been replaced with a redirection?Feb 10 12:03
schestowitz-TR2the "don't want to 'insult' readers who have kids" BSFeb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2maybe inc. the editor whose feelings and choices get challengedFeb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2and ADVERTISERS'Feb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2techrunch is an old and dying brandFeb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2ued by msft zack and othersFeb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2it does not ave much real value anymoeFeb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2it seldom breaks newsFeb 10 12:04
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> it looks like the wikipedia article on git was heavily tampered by microsoft and microsofers. even technical articles there have turned into mindless, misleading marketing.Feb 10 12:06
schestowitz-TR2[12:09:06] <techrights-news> https://git-scm.com/downloads is promoting github. So you want git and its sends you to PROPRIETARY site of MICROSOFT to get the latest version. Insane. GitHub is an ATTACK on Git. Seems it's already attacked from THE INSIDE.Feb 10 12:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-git-scm.com | Git - DownloadsFeb 10 12:09
schestowitz-TR2[12:09:06] [TechrightsSocial] git-scm.com | Git - DownloadsFeb 10 12:09
schestowitz-TR2found two relativebly authoritative urlsFeb 10 12:13
techrightssecexcellent Feb 10 12:36
schestowitz-TR2the goal is to normalise this idea that self-hosting is okFeb 10 12:37
schestowitz-TR2and doableFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2and provide pointersFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2if everyone does it, github is doomedFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2like skypeFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2btw, rianne talks to family over mumble and it's goodFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2headphones helpFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2site a > sites b anc c -> sites d-zFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2needto set the tone and let it roll onFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2like with boycottnovellFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2mumble the official sw is simpleFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2i think my one video about it covered most point Feb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2*pointsFeb 10 12:38
schestowitz-TR2doing another one abiout advance ones would be not useful and also need prior research/tinkeringFeb 10 12:38
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