IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 11, 2022

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I did not read that, so it was cleared before I could see it

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/ home/boycottn/bin/get_dbs.sh ?

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/home/boycottn/bin/fetch-tm-dump.sh ?

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Just that there are some scripts which use myqldump

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just about mysqldump and then the above paths

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ah, ok

Apr 11 10:13

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hand on...

Apr 11 10:13

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*hang on

Apr 11 10:13

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it looks like we last ran it last April

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I will give it a go now

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just checked the script one by line

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it ran OK, it moved too fast for me to catch any repairs

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but looking at the log it looks like about once a month

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there is a bit of a struggle with sort #######################################

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maybe that can explain why the DB deflates a bit Ytalk Error #

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and, in this case, does not register every visit

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either way, the core bits are intact

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I spent a lot of time yesterday

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checking tons of things in case this was a symptom of a real issue

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I will keep an eye now on hit counters to see if they're back to how they used to be.

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ack

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ftr, as I was saying earlier, it all started when I saw unusually slow number of views

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apachelog made no sense, or rather apache top

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as everything looked normal

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I suspected it was likely some locked up table

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but waited to see the db dump at 5:13am for its side, so went to sleep

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checked to ensure manstodon and stuff all worked OK

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it would be a shame to lose so much data

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what is the URL for the counts in question?

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the counts are still shown incorrectly

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I will try flushing out the cache in Drupal

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all pages newer than about 16 hours are affected

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tbh, lAST NIGHT i WENT (MENTALLY) through all sorts of explanation

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also technically checked some

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I could not prove that anyone was unable to access

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so in a sense 'fixing' this is sort of moot

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but the worry was, maybe a sympton

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maybe we can just forget about it, knowing the DB is in OK shape

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there are all sorts of benign explanations I can come up with

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ack

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did clearing the cache help?

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I dont' regret double checking

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I wopuld have regretted not doing so if later, down the line,

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something happened

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there are almost 170k nodes for 18 years

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I have not tried yet

Apr 11 10:51

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but it seems to be catching up now

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there is a time diff between request and drupal db table updating

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for example tuxmachines.org/node/163592

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with www.

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thanks

Apr 11 10:56

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ok, in tmax now

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see what happened around 11am yesterday

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[ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Sort aborted

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we got those before

Apr 11 11:00

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but then innodb had a shutdown

Apr 11 11:00

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also a "Warning" message too

Apr 11 11:02

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happens a lot there

Apr 11 11:02

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maybe that can happen about once a month but without me noticing

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and maybe I make a big deal out of something that

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is a longstanding weakness

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11am is not even close to the time I did rsync iirc

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but rsync does not go near the DB anyway

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so I thought this could only be a coincidence

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either way, running db checks once a month would have

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been good practice, which you did suggest in the past

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and general housekeeping for other stuff

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because we rarely study what really happens silently at

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the back end

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rsync only affects the filesystem load

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and maybe a tiny amount of CPU

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Apr 11 11:16

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$ ssh boycottn@tuxmachines.org

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Unable to negotiate with 23.161.112.115 port 22: no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss

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that's a less good error involving fully deprecated, insecure algorithms without

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viable alternatives. An upgrade is long overdue since that change was planned

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and announced a very long time ago. Can sshd be pulled in from backports?

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one option is turn off ssh and go through the hypervisor, which is alpine

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but that would interfere with DB backups

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That's more of a work-around than a real solution.

Apr 11 11:27

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The backups need SSH

Apr 11 11:27

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easter coming up

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I will try to find a good moment to ask kaniini (working

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full time) for a new OS on which to build TM

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re TM,

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I lost a ton of time but have no regrets

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because so much time was poured into that database

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and I'd rather spend a day posting nothing

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just to be sure data is presevred OK

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from what I can gather, this is just optics (looks

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like low view count) but nothing worth messing about with

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and it seems related to innodb, as that started around then

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not the first time it happens based on mysql logs

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Yes, prevention is important. At the risk of nagging, what is the timeline

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for the OS upgrade?

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this week or weekend I will ask kaniini

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spinning off a new OS should not be too hard, then we can copy across 'www'

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and adding missing packages etc.

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the thing that might be a pain is expectation of old DB version

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but it's a test machine, so no downtime

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Thanks!

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Thursday - Monday are holidays in various places.

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yes, I was just discussing this with rianne

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btw, tuxmachines implies tux/linux, so no bsd for OS

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yes, I was just discussing this with rianne

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btw, tuxmachines implies tux/linux, so no bsd for OS

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not even GNU/kFreeBSD ?

Apr 11 11:48

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from what I remember it is no longer maintained

Apr 11 11:49

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figosdev says that devuan quality declined

Apr 11 11:49

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debian has a hurd version now

Apr 11 11:49

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Too bad, it was an interesting experiment which probably helped the GNU pacakges

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become more robust. OpenBSD benefits from supporting different hardware

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architectures, so I figure the effects would be somewhat similar.

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Hurd is getting closer but I don't think anyone is waiting for it or expecting

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it any time soon.

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btw, re Daily Links

Apr 11 11:53

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at the moment you have commened out the "line" for IRC posting

Apr 11 11:53

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Last week I made some changes to speed up posting to IRC

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but

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I guess that's because you do not run interleave before uploading

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as that would add the tags

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and I realised a simple solution is,

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you comment out the tag part at your end

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and I comment out the "line" part

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oh,ok! I can sort it out fully at my end

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by passing it throught interleave when I retreieve it

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then again before posting/finalising

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leave iut at my end, I'll work on that now

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yes

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right, it would have to be run on your end or else be made much more complex

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It'd probably help to be able to move most of the processing up to the TR server

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yes

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though two runs of interleave should be unnecessary

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there was a severe storm here last week

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we had lots of work to do outside

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I am posting your links in TMK now

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will then work on the Daily Links flow and test that

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I will have to do TONS of patent catchup over Easter

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hopefully migration for TM also

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I hope for migration. If there is any way to help or prepare, let me know.

Apr 11 12:01

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thanks, you can now see your links at top of TM

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the stats are vanity anyway

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I cannot see evidence of any real harm to data

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so I shall leave it alone

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there is a mismatch between apacghe and drupal counts

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also, of course none of this counts views via front page, RSS feed etc.

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so it's a case of assuring myself the DB was in a good state

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first with the backup

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then scanning it

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OS migration can ameliorate many things

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but it would also be a pain in transitiob

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ack

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yes

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Apr 11 13:00

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i am learning some perl along the way

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but I got stuck

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I am trying to push the "irc line" before <li>

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I tried loads of things

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if I add that version of the file to git, can you hack on it?

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i think it's a one-liner 'fix

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sure which file which line number?

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git log --follow -p -- links-interleave-social-control-media.pl

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I looked for hints in the old way social control media line was done

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with it preceding the <li>

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to no avail

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sure, which script and which line number

Apr 11 13:32

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I've just added my little derivative

Apr 11 13:33

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it's already strung onto the file which fetches and then pre-processes daily links

Apr 11 13:33

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I tried loads of things to make the line go ahead of/before the <li>

Apr 11 13:34

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cat -n ...

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ack

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add-lines-for-irc.pl

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if you run it against any daily links batch

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you will see the oder

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*order

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it's not in Git though.

Apr 11 13:37

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where can it be found?

Apr 11 13:37

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there was a conflict i

Apr 11 13:38

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but I think it's there now under Links

Apr 11 13:38

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add*

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solved: the finalise [sic] stage

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just pushed timeline.sh

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the addition of lines is in the order order, so I tried in vain to fix that

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The way the old tags were done for social control media start at line 102

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in that script

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I looked at change history to find how it was done before ( NEWS part before <li>)

Apr 11 13:43

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but I suck at this aspect of perl

Apr 11 13:43

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or at perl in general

Apr 11 13:43

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It's mainly XPath work though. That is why it is so important that the

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files always validate.

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$sc = HTML::Element->new('~literal',

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'text'=>"");

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$anchor->preinsert($sc);

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what was intended there? If the literal "" is empty the two lines can be removed

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(line 111)

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yes, that was just me empyting the tag bit

Apr 11 13:49

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it remained in the other file, I didn't mean for this to even go to git,

Apr 11 13:49

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I just wanted a little derivative for irc line but no tag added

Apr 11 13:49

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<li>

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Retrotechtacular: A DIY Television For Very Early Adopters | Hackaday

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<h5><a href="https://hackaday.com/2022/04/10/retrotechtacular-a-diy-television-for-very-early-adopters/">Retrotechtacular: A DIY Television For Very Early Adopters</a></h5>

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The loops are not necessarily reqired but mirrror the nested nature of the

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HTML elements they affect.

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Ah, ok.

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Can you paste a sample output?

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ok try what's in Git now

Apr 11 13:55

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Indenting can be added, too, if needed.

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<h3>Instructionals/Technical</h3>

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<li>

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"" ☛ https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery DT

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<h5><a href="https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery">Pygments style gallery</a></h5>

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thanks! Trying...20~

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still the order wherein it's sandwiched

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Indenting was only an issue when I used diaspora

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because there, tabs and spaces were interpreted specially

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yes, what I struggled with was the order

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do you want the comment before the LI element?

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<li>

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<h5><a href ...

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It's not linear but a tree.

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Just a sec

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yes, I figured that out after wrongly assuming altering the order in the file would yield what I needed

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from where I look, inc. mastodon and diaspora, those network rot away along with FB, "Truth Social" [sic] [sic]

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and Twitter

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I will njever ever explored those again

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ok try the one in Git?

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trying now

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btw, last night I did a video on how we'd respond to FUD

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better than before

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oh, puuuurfect!

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inc. indentation, which helps (but was not compatible with diaspora

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)

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I might migrate my account to another instance, but would not use it

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just to preserve the main pod presence

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it's replicated across

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but needs a "master"

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btw, I am making small changes to the file

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to avoid conmflict, I'm saying so, still testing the changes at my end before pushing

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excellent

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diaspora compatibility is no longer needed afaik

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ack

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done, and pushed

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BTW, the reason I was adding the extra newline was

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post-ff.sh assumes up to 5 lines belolw cursor

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so for short items it might grab a line from the next item

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I made it work in a ay that takes advantage of additional screen

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unlike before

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thanks for the help!!

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tuxmachinses works fine, rianne has just cleared her rss feeds

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looks workable

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ack

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I've just cleared drupak cashe

Apr 11 14:20

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ack

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tuxmachines admin access (just in case)

Apr 11 14:21

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no https connection?

Apr 11 14:25

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this is one reason to move to another OS

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there are countless other issues

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which, based on what I see at work, is a common issue

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but typically hush-hush

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like ancient stuff from 2014 still going

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ack

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keeping up wih things is expensive in the short term

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a lot of businesses kick the can down the road

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and threaten people not to talk about it

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even when they have very sensitive data

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and ESP. when so

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tested login but passwd was not correct

Apr 11 14:36

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yes, username xxxxxxxxx, but I have something missing or transposed in the passwd

Apr 11 14:37

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if you explore the admin panel of drupal in tuxmachines

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you will find it's neat and friendly

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not easy to break

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no JS afaik

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(not yet)

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you can even see recent activity in some page

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I am trying to understand if the "access" DB table was at fault

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yes, I checked 5 tiems over

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and tested on the new machines just now

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username

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to avoid false impression of low view counts

Apr 11 14:43

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I've meanwhile made those numbers visible only to admins

Apr 11 14:43

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I checked the password many times, I will enter it by hand now just to be sure

Apr 11 14:43

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when I enter it manually I fail

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not when I copy

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so maybe soe phantom char somewhere

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I am going to to paste it in tmux terminal

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I pasted with carriage return by accident

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not for that one needs root bash_history

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so no worries, no needf to history -c

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oh wait

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the 3 trailing lll are wrong

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I was testinmg to see if it was really an l

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ack

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possible

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ack

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hopefully that will work not, with it being copied

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I'm going to work my way through quiterss now

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the "microsoft loves linux" charade slowed down a bit

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so it's meaning less "strife" and more positive stuf

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it fails when I copy it from what you paste

Apr 11 15:04

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but works when I copy-paste from my notes

Apr 11 15:04

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xxxx

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"xxxx" is wrong

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?can you past your notes here again, do not transcribe, just paste

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there must be a difference somewhere

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can you see it in tmux?

Apr 11 15:06

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looking

Apr 11 15:07

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4 and 5 were transposed

Apr 11 15:07

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yep, works,

Apr 11 15:07

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I think I know why

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my bad

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I changed that

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to keep out you know who

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not because of argument

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it's just a matter of secrity

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after 8 years

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so I have in my notes two passwords

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they look almost the same

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in 2 years, TM will be 29

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^20

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logging out so as not to break anything by accident

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I've just looked at early IRC logs.

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I started in 2008

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many early users were from usenet

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interesting. Usenet was great but could not survive a concerted onslaught by

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corporate shills, spammers, and astroturfers

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I am going to change TM password now

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knowing that oiver the years

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many http connections were made to that account

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try

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ack

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trying

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it worked

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total irc logs for irc in my xchat directory: 2.6 gb

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going back to 2008

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is there a standard format for the iRC logs or does each chat client have its own?

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Apr 11 15:34

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good question

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kaniiniw ould know best

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as he made the prpottocol in part

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bbut I think there is no uniform format

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which in turn begets issues

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and this is why I ustill use the 3 forks of xchat

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maybe the can be normalized to work with just the latest one?

Apr 11 15:41

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I struggle to even keep up with the story of forks, bracnhes and shootofss of the projects

Apr 11 15:42

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they have UI and feature variation

Apr 11 15:42

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yes

Apr 11 15:48

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[15:56] <techrights-news> But Bitcoin was never about anonymity anyway https://www.wired.com/story/tracers-in-the-dark-welcome-to-video-crypto-anonymity-myth/ so now Conde Nast (Wall Street) associated this with assault on children? Even though it's not about privacy at all?

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Inside the Bitcoin Bust That Took Down the Web’s Biggest Child Abuse Site | WIRED

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Schneier links to tons of Conde Nast lately

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even outright lies

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Big Banks and Apple and the UK gov. uses the same strategy

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I don't have to be a bitcoin fan to call BS

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as if pedos don't pay with cash or even card or even standing order

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that's like Microsoft pretending security is a "open source" issue

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I was just looking at his blog and also was disappointed. Hes still at the EFF

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and should have had a more positive influence than he has had.

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he seems to just shill for the most part in recent years

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the governement via lobbyists and proxies, has started playing along with M$ and

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come down on the Java library's users but have left M$ deployments uncriticized

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he also links a lot to FDBI, USDOJ etc.

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even the whole RUSHA thing

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If I wanted that, I know wqhere ti look

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ack

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well such if life

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you try to do the right thing

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it does not pay well

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not as much as being a bastard anyway

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I guess this is universally and perpetually valid/applicable

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meanwhile, Michel wrote some posts about this

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like the Microsoft-centric "ransomware" task force

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and how it was composed

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probably

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it should be composed of teams of people with drives for /data/ backup and USB

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sticks containing Linux Mint installation images.

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LMDE (latest) is quite nice

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going to make a teapot

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catching up with rss today

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we got lolts done

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even if mostly code and lots of testingh

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yes

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I'm not sure how many 1000 RSS feeds are in QuiteRSS here.

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which was well oversue and weill pay dividends

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as time goes by, to get x new items

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you need yx2 or yx3 feeds

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not sure how to count planets

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as I keep saying, planets are dangerous

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they are censorship mechanisms

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like social control media

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best to also avoid mitm like feedburner

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for reasons

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that became apparent thisd year

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people assume they follow you because "you are in the planewt"

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but that's like thinking the same because "follow you in twitteer"

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twitter is worse because it doesn't even pretend to be neutral anymore

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it's curated

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same for gulagtube

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which changed its reminder emails like a decade ago

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so it gets deto decide ahat you 'need' to watch

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not what you asked for

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yes it has been like that

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I don't track any planets for that reason, they are a total waste of time

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BBBBBBBBB

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politicians mistakenly seem to think that they can use social control media

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when it is the other way around and they actually end up losing

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bat and switch

Apr 11 16:20

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you are not gulag

Apr 11 16:20

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you are not the admin of the plenet

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heck, the planet can be taken down

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for someone else's reasons

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plenet is like a web-based rss reader you merely subscriibe to]

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and so it sort of defeats the purpose or raison detre of the protpcols

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it's likle saying, I'll subscribe only to CNN

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where the "Planet CNN" is just the list of CNN members of stuff

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while CCNN still employs them

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that's what planets ghenerally are

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sans the salary

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yes, the planets end up usually being a misuse of the protocol, at least

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going against the original purpose of having a distributed, decentralized

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service.

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you know, the most bizarre thing is,.

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nobody else that I know of even speaks about it

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same for video hosting

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they say move from platform A to B

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or gmail to...

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but they seem to be missing the point

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don't get me started on mastodon lol!

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I lost 3 accounts

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tuxmachines lost 1, has one left

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since it started in 2017

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so 80% are dead in 5 years

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ack

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high attrition rate

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Digg sucked, they censors ODF material from the start

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take my word for it

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I startted with Digg

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while also on usenet

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on the prawl

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this whole phenomenon

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Reddit included(coexisted with Digg)

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is mostly propped up by a false, faked perception iof traffic

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they optimise for this delusion

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likle wall street with its valuation bubbles

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many instances die because their admis (like drew devault 2 years ago, then

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distro.toot) see that it's a waste of their time

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Reddit is a scam perpetrated by Conde Nast

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It is for marketing and mass manipulation of opinion regarding ICT

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When /. took a big downturn as aftermath of sale to scum, Reddit lied their

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way forth to a user base. Now they just delete and shadowban their way towards

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the M$ agenda. Nothing good can be said about Reddit

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we had a long irc discussion aboout redditr this past weekend

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what was the conclusion there?

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there were several, but it's 'turfed basically

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and those who call out thwe BS get vanished

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and gaslit

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yep

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DT has a love/hate relationship with lesser alts

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same as lunduke

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"hey I'm moving to gemini, this is great"

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"hey let's do mastodon, self-hosted"

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"hey, let's leave youtube"

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but they later come back where they came

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and each time with less impact than before

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and the principles are severely compromised

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reinforcing this idea that you cannot truly quit

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lunduke ended up being canceled mainly in twitter afaik

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he should have stayed away the first time around

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it's some dumb think he said after getting infected

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I only listen to about half of his videos

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Lunduke has vanished from the net.

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Dt is not 100% reliable

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yes he kept trying to come back to twitter, I suspect addiction

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I wonder how many IQ points the virus took out of him.

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^_^

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Lunduke said he needed to come back to Twitter after his Jan 1 2020 resolutioln

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for COVID UPDATE!!!

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Yes, nothing except Twitter disseminates information about COVID!!

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^_^

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"I neweed twitter back!!@ FOR MY SAFEWTY!!"

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(and my family's)

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you and I talked back thenm how dumb the (non)logic of that was

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her's like my boss lying to clients all the time

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tro save face

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I want to jump in and tell him

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"come on, just be honest to them"

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but... they're not THOSE kidnds of peopople

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management seems to be 90% bullishit

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10% substance

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anmd this is what you can be promoted for

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because the people deciding youir promotion are 99% bullshit

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1% subnstance

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so you can join them, and work your way close to 100%

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and filtered algorithmically, the rest are gullible fools manipulated by

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aforementioned algorithmic sorting

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I think we should adopt words like "herded"

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ratjher than manipulated

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because that helps convey how people like Musk and Gates perceive

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such platforms

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herding consumers and peasants

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sharecropping

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farming, herding, etc

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yes, sharecropping. though those trying to build services and products using

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M$ "technologies" are closer to sharecroppers.

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they go into debt faster, in a bigger way, and are less likely to get out of it

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because of long-ter m liabilities or TCO

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and the pace of losses increases more rapidly

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that's why many such businesses fail

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if they grow, the costs scale badly

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like patent royalties

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yep -- sharecropping

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yes, though the food prices are going to increase greatly several times during

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the next year as the various crises make their effects known

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ack

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rianne went out to hunt for bargain fods

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we reckon the best way to prepare is to lessen the expenses

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esp. now that food prices go up

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the energy bill we got today was almost 100 for the month

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gas+elc, 2 people, 50 each

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it was about 60 6 years ago

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but we also showered in the gym

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so that's still a steep increases

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for families wqith kids and heating it can be 250 a month

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you do of course realise many energy companies and food growers were subsidised by taxpayers up

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until now to keep the peasants from revolting

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it was a hidden tax

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weheat, oil etc.

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with growping fianancial liabilities they can no longer hide th e tru cost of living

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ack

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"our system is so great... we keep borrowing money from taxpayers to buy cheap food and energy for them

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and to purify water we need energy toio"

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"we let them fly cheaply this way so everyone gets their nlifestyle weekend flight to spain"

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yes, they cannot hide the true costs of living and recent astronomical increases

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but they do have social control media to shift blame to designated targets

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note the current French elections in that regards

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flights ought to be vastly reduced, since there is virtually no other lifestyle

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change which one can make, even with great effort, to compensate for and offset

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the environmental damage that even a single flight causes

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I've not left the country since berlin (my birthday, 018) adn have not left the city since 2020 (Sheffield)

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to rianne it's starting to get a little difficult after 2 years

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in 2 mins we get the latest corona numbers

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I heard on the radio this morning (yes, decided to torture myself with FM)

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that there si a sharp increase

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so even the national broadcasters quiut pretending

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I envy people who manage to avoid flying

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trhere is often pressure from family members iof not shitty friends

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who still think "phone ownership" or "drtiving" or "flying FAR away"

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is a measure of social status, success etc.

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now every janitor has some "smart" phone

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not that janitors have a "lesser" job

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it's a rather important job and about 10^6 times more useful than MBAs and most

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managers, futhermore unlike those other two it is honest work

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unfortunately it no longer pays a living wage despite its necessity in a

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well-functioning society

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elop got a BONUS!

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his bonus was contingent upon destroying the company and its product line

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to hell with "products"

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that SOB destroyed the lives of many families of engineers

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who had done productive things

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the lives of a great many employees were overturned as a result of his

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not just on phoneres

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but plent of telecom innovation for decades

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befoire elop even went to college

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despicable damage

https://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/08/coining-term-elop-effect-when-you-combine-osborne-effect-and-ratner-effect.html

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Coining Term: "Elop Effect" when you combine Osborne Effect and Ratner Effect

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some went to jolla and made sailfishOPS

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but Microsoft basically bought the powwefful brand

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so people are not likely to go to stores asking for "jollo"ade anotherddddddddff

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sorru my upstream went dire

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maybe it's the pi changing tc settings :-)

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one of the apparent intended side effects of gutting the company was to

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turn those skilled, experienced staff out onto the street

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what remains is farcically hierarchicaly and ossified, not to mention there

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are *very* few remanin pockets of skilled staff

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once you've culled the knowledge pool enough, the best do not have enough peers

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in their or neighboring fields and cannot be retained.

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bought + shutdown

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they make routers or something now but no phones

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yahoo and novell used to make products

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yahoo still had my geocities site

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when microsoft and icahn started attacking

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Icahn and M$ went after Yahoo to damage, among other things, FreeBSD

Apr 11 17:12

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(checking latest covid data, to write report and then share it ith riuanne)

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(billBC is not informing, it's propaganda for "the economy" (riuch peopole))

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netflix still uses freebsd

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and afaik the ceo or a co-=founder had come from microsoft

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that is because it is a company of microsofters and they 1) have to have

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a working infrastructute, 2) would go to the most extreme lengths to avoid

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GNU/Linux. They'd use NetBSD if they had to, or even Haiku, just as long

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as they can avoid GNU

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hotmail did the same even before being hijacked by microsoft

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where is hiootmail today?>

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hotmail started on freebsd but M$ tried several times to port it to NT

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I think the 4th or 5th attempt kind of worked but by that time they had learned

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to be quiet about the migration. Though they never learn, such as what happened

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to Sampo Pankki in Finland way back in the 00's They shot their mouths off

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and then the migration failed fast and hard and the outages lasted months

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holy shit!

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over 500 deathss

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afer they added another 2700'missing' deaths last week

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45% increase in one week

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this is worse thasn in 2020

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"go watch football, lads"

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where? context?

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ah ,the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic

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"ladies, go shopping"

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the one that AstraZeneca and Pfizer "killed" last year

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eradicated, just like the testing rates here

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they ended it last month

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all that testing is bad for ratings of Borisnaro

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I will do a post about this

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ack

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I have not enabled it

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ack

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my home network became super-slow

Apr 11 18:46

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I've installed some tools to find the culprit

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but it might just be ipfs again

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ack

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tcpdump?

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I am not even sure which machine is at fault, it started getting very bad a few hours agfo

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wireless or ethernet?

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only the ip phone is ethernet

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there could be RF interference too / instead then :(

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If it's not RF interference then you might try some netflow analyzer

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ntop or flowscan might be ok,

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noction was disparaged in IRC the other day

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I've just temprarily shut down ipfs

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my home though was to see it was not culprit

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I already checked its usage earlier

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and it wasn't likely at fault

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the theory that lowering shields with the new script did not pass muster

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now it is off and my connectuion is still very slow

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a lot of things timing out

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cannot refresh rss

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about the RF interference, one possibility if you are on the 2.4 GHz band is

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radiation from a neighbor's wifi or appliance. If the former, you can scan for

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wireless networks and check if there is *anything* on a channel other than

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1, 6, or 11. If so, then that's probably the cause. If you are on the 5 GHz

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band, which your should be, then the RF question is harder to solve.

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I see

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sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | less

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sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | grep -Ei 'channel|address|signal|essid'

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The raspberry pi can handle 5 GHz channels. Not sure about the older hardware

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you might have though.

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I cannot believe I am back to this

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for over a year it was fine

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ipfs is def. not the culprit

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I will check another way

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are there other wifi networks in range?

Apr 11 19:16

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try changing your 2.4GHz channel from 11 to 6 or 1 and your 5GHz channel

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from 36 to anything else

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wait, here is the stramnnge thing

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the pi can get megabytes going

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the other machines barely anything

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I want to try and see a few thins

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I can lower the pi from about 4mb/min to 400k a miniute

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but the other machines are still slow

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I don't understand why it can get those rates at all

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even the pi making outbound connection seems rather slow

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/tmp/scan.log

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are the slow machines on 2.4GHz ?

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strength has nothing to do with interference two strong signals on overlapping

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channels will destroy eachother

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same outcome also on rianne's laptop

Apr 11 19:33

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2400

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strong signal strength

Apr 11 19:33

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try changing your 2.4GHz channel from 11 to 6 or 1 and your 5GHz channel

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from 36 to anything else

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wish me luckj

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changed settings

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may need to reconnect

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don;'t reply in ther meantime

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as much may follow in terms of chores

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also turn off "band steering" while in there, if it is on

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this is a latest test

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2.4 ch6, 5 ch40

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\\]

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still high latency and not much bandwidth

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but not much

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so far I see no real improvements

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it all just started out of nowhere about 4 hours ago

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all the machines are still slow

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and with some I can see the channel changes

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so OI assume it helps rule out signal interference

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from other channels, yes, but there are a great many other sources of RF

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trouble

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microwaves, etc

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I will get to the bottom of it, eventually and find some way to remain almost productive

Apr 11 20:00

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i found the issue

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it was

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my fault

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i opened very old irc log files

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then saved to one

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14 years of it

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as a result

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the tail that does irc status

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basically tailed like 130mb into it

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it tries to upload this file every 5 minutes

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so you can guess what this resulted in

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should i change back the channels

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or is it OK to keep them as they are?

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any benefit to this pair of settings?