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*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social May 11 01:32
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Techrights-sec ITWire seems to have fixed its hosting problem, at least temporarily. May 11 07:43
Techrights-sec tr/tm monitoring seems to have worked, at least for tr, there was the usual May 11 07:43
Techrights-sec brief slowdown at 03:40 for the system activities but nothing otherwise May 11 07:43
schestowitz-TR where is itwire now? May 11 07:44
Techrights-sec digitalPacific May 11 07:45
Techrights-sec in Australia May 11 07:45
Techrights-sec DIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD w HQ in NSW May 11 07:45
Techrights-sec in Australia May 11 07:45
Techrights-sec DIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD w HQ in NSW May 11 07:45
schestowitz-TR maybe for technical reasons May 11 07:46
schestowitz-TR azure is a joke May 11 07:46
Techrights-sec a bad joke at best; hopefully ITWire learned its lesson about wasting money May 11 07:47
Techrights-sec it's suppose to be quite expensive compare to the services it immitates May 11 07:47
Techrights-sec in addition to the availability problems and such May 11 07:47
schestowitz-TR thanks for reminding me for mentioning something about azure in case I resign sooner than expected May 11 07:48
Techrights-sec I wouldn't waste the time, but if you think it will come up the pricing is   May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec probably public though most likely misleading May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec apologies in advance for the link but no sites cover azure, since it is not May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec relevant: https://www.zdnet.com/article/global-azure-outage-knocked-out-virtual-machines-other-vm-dependent-services/ May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec https://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/what-happened-with-microsoft-azures-active-directory-and-dns-outages May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec relevant: https://www.zdnet.com/article/global-azure-outage-knocked-out-virtual-machines-other-vm-dependent-services/ May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec https://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/what-happened-with-microsoft-azures-active-directory-and-dns-outages May 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure outage knocked out virtual machines, other VM-dependent services | ZDNet May 11 07:53
Techrights-sec https://www.exoprise.com/2021/12/16/azure-ad-microsoft-365-outage-december-15/ May 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-acloudguru.com | What happened with Microsoft Azure’s AD and DNS outages? | A Cloud Guru May 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure AD Outage Affecting Microsoft 365 Services December 15 - Exoprise May 11 07:53
schestowitz-TR putting brands aside, anfocusing on concepts like in CS< May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TR we can just tell people that "clown" means they are totally not in May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TR control; May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TR the clown controls are vendor lockin, so it's harder to move away than with tradition hosts May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TR e.g. cpanel on centos May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TR BTW, Canonical was shilling a Windows laptop yesterday May 11 07:55
Techrights-sec https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29574027 May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec mostly covered by crap sites May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec yes the UI for the systems tends to be proprietary with clown computing, May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec instead of bog standard SSH or KVM (keyboard video) May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec Canonical has been full of microsofters for years, I'm surprised they     May 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | Tell HN: Azure is having a major outage | Hacker News May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec haven't managed to cancel Ubuntu from the inside.  Though it does seem that May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec Canonical has been misdirecting and wasting effort since thatincursion started May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252497921/Microsoft-cloud-users-hit-by-global-outage-linked-to-Azure-Active-Directory-issue May 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft cloud users hit by global outage linked to Azure Active Directory issue May 11 08:02
Techrights-sec https://www.crn.com/slide-shows/cloud/the-10-biggest-cloud-outages-of-2021-so-far-/7 May 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crn.com | The 10 Biggest Cloud Outages Of 2021 (So Far) May 11 08:02
schestowitz-TR a prt of me reallyy hope for closure re the company May 11 08:09
schestowitz-TR rianne had come to acceptance of that too May 11 08:09
schestowitz-TR BTW, see the storyat the very top of TM right now May 11 08:09
schestowitz-TR I also put it in my notes to use the spare time to improve the sites, as if it was part of the job May 11 08:09
Techrights-sec checking May 11 08:11
Techrights-sec Fedora or TM turning 18? May 11 08:11
schestowitz-TR did I say Fedoa? May 11 08:11
schestowitz x https://text.npr.org/1098066371 May 11 08:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Bill Gates tests positive for COVID-19, says he's experiencing mild symptoms May 11 08:20
Techrights-sec that's at the top of TM atm May 11 08:27
Techrights-sec I see further down something about Windoze workstations May 11 08:27
Techrights-sec I see further down something about Windoze workstations May 11 08:27
Techrights-sec that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy May 11 08:27
Techrights-sec or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage May 11 08:27
schestowitz-TR EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF May 11 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation May 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation May 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR <techrights-news> EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF May 11 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation May 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation May 11 08:33
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schestowitz-TR [09:36] <techrights-news> MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye ☛ https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog May 11 09:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Twitter’s New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog May 11 09:37
Techrights-sec yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation May 11 09:38
Techrights-sec at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before May 11 09:38
schestowitz-TR <techrights-news> EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF May 11 09:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation May 11 09:39
schestowitz-TR <techrights-news> Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut May 11 09:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Elon Musk Says He’ll Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban “Foolish” May 11 09:40
Techrights-sec encouraging incitement to violence and other already illegal activities is just May 11 09:43
Techrights-sec one means of spreading strife May 11 09:43
Techrights-sec free speech is just a red herring and collateral damage since it gets associated May 11 09:43
Techrights-sec with illegal activities there; it has gone so far that the term "free speech" May 11 09:43
Techrights-sec has become a dog whistle for several political leanings who use it to refer May 11 09:43
Techrights-sec to hate speech and various other problems including already illegal activities May 11 09:43
schestowitz-TR we need to keep driving home that message May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR even if that takes years May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR even just changing vocabularies can help May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR social control media, clownflare etc. May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR I think catchy phrases spread faster May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR openwashing is one I coined 15 years ago (afaik) May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR it's a shaming word May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR maybe OSI will say it's a homophobic term May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR screw them May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TR Twitter has, in general, gone well past its peak, even before tryint to cash in (by axing third parties) in 2018 May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR I think the HUGE focus on Trump harmed them May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR they actively promotes pro- and anti-Trump instead of focusing on what users ACTUALLY May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR FOLLOWED!!! And that led to emotional drain May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR Mastodon came about, but I know from experience how shtty it can be May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR for multiple reason May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR people who STILL dabble in those things don't reach big audiences May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR distrotoot and devault shut those down May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR because it was more trouble than it was worth May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR I do not REGRET spending the time I did in those "sites" May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR I partly regret not leaving sooner May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR as some of them had run our of users years ago May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR and were not worth the hassle anymore May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR Twitter IS STILL TOTALLY FAKING IT May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR since 2 weeks before the sale they're shown my stats QUADRUPLING May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TR every day May 11 09:57
Techrights-sec ack May 11 09:59
Techrights-sec if twitter is engaged in fraud, that is actionable by the SEC among others     May 11 09:59
Techrights-sec if I understand correctly May 11 09:59
schestowitz-TR good luck proving it May 11 10:00
schestowitz-TR "open source" as code for "Trump is back" May 11 10:00
schestowitz-TR MusKSA will tarnish the terms "free speech" and "Open Source" some more May 11 10:00
schestowitz-TR media already used Mastoidon et al to associate us with HATE speech, Nazis, ISIS... May 11 10:00
Techrights-sec it looks that way     May 11 10:01
Techrights-sec they will leverage anything to inhibit software freedom May 11 10:01
Techrights-sec yes, as mentioned the phrase "free speech" is being used as a dog whistle May 11 10:01
schestowitz-TR defrauding the public using tweets = "free speech" May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TR visiting Epstein in PRISON = "free speech" May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TR (billg: I was in contact with him to meet rich people... yeah, the prison was a C&^C Centre for rich people ^_^ ) May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TR I don't always do social networking with banksters May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TR but when I do, I go into a cage with one person in orange shirt May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TR [meme] May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TR [10:10] <techrights-news> MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams May 11 10:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade' May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR in IRC May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR in twitter May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR in fsf.org May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR about the Twitetr sale May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR and they are STILL on there May 11 10:11
Techrights-sec ack May 11 10:21
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Techrights-sec do you have external speakers on the rpi?  I'm wondering if it is worth May 11 11:08
Techrights-sec adding audio to the monitoring program May 11 11:08
Techrights-sec beyond the GPIO buzzer May 11 11:08
schestowitz-TR no, I did plug in the headphones after putting debian 11 and iirc it worked May 11 11:12
schestowitz-TR but not without them May 11 11:12
schestowitz-TR and I'm not even sure it did work, I just forgot May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR the pi is only visible in another room May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR (where rianne works) May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR btw, rianne is doign research on .gov sites May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR re rights of workers May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR we don't want to get tricked May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR the important thing is like "right to remain silent" May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR and decide later, offline May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR as there are legal hacks to avoid paying compensation etc. May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR "roy, would you like to work on a Microsoft project???" May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR if I say "no", I can lose the right for compensation over 11+ years May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR I also may need to check the nregistration status of the companies (now sliced into 3, at least two in debt) May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR approaching an employment lawyer before knowing the facts is hard May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR lol, imagine going on the call with a lawyer next to me :-) May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR that would piss them off May 11 11:13
Techrights-sec ok May 11 11:13
Techrights-sec :( sounds like some kind of debt shuffle to leave someone holding the bag May 11 11:13
Techrights-sec :( sounds like some kind of debt shuffle to leave someone holding the bag May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR we are not and were never registered as shareholders May 11 11:14
schestowitz-TR I think one colleague foolishly may have, but not us May 11 11:14
schestowitz-TR and I checked with the pension provider, very long call, she even asked a colleague to verify May 11 11:14
Techrights-sec that a relief May 11 11:15
schestowitz-TR having just used intercom (rianne sends links over ssh, via pi) May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR we agreed that maybe they take 9 days not as strategic nuisnace May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR but rather to prepare for a stage entrapment May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR and we should basically say nothing back, just record the thing May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR and repeat, we need to check May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR even if they repeatedly prod May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR I don't mind paying a legal veteran to study this and advice afterwards May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR *advise May 11 11:17
Techrights-sec sounds like a wise approach May 11 11:23
schestowitz-TR warning: there is a good chance I might accept a more demanding role for few hours per week May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TR rianne saw job ads yesterday at the shop May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TR realised she was being paid more than the managers there May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TR to basically babysit elaphants in LibreWolf (ad-freee GulagTube) May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TR and having no job at all is fun only while funds last, it's not a long-term strategy May 11 11:26
Techrights-sec ack May 11 11:26
Techrights-sec :) May 11 11:26
Techrights-sec :) May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TR at 200 years combined we're May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR *20 years May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR we are too expensive to get rid of May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR (if I understand the law correctly, with the caveats) May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR and I have not ofended anyone yet( May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR irc is like tv to amish in our company May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR they know that to do more technical work I demand a suitable salary and better working hours May 11 11:29
Techrights-sec good May 11 11:30
schestowitz-TR the latest from paypal (I do manually curated last) shows the centralisation issue May 11 12:13
schestowitz-TR in content of financing May 11 12:13
schestowitz-TR consortiumnews became more probelemic in recent years May 11 12:13
schestowitz-TR I unsubscribed because some of their virew were a little radical for me May 11 12:13
schestowitz-TR same for offguardian May 11 12:13
schestowitz-TR and mint   May 11 12:14
schestowitz-TR usuauly I'd just skip the rotten ones May 11 12:14
schestowitz-TR from the new owners May 11 12:14
Techrights-sec should the three be added to the blacklist then? May 11 12:14
schestowitz-TR but if they become frequent I don't want to associate in any way anymore May 11 12:14
Techrights-sec should the three be added to the blacklist then? May 11 12:17
Techrights-sec ok May 11 12:17
Techrights-sec ok May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TR no, May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TR I am still reading the picks May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TR to understand the extent of the ban May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TR if it's just Joe Lauria May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TR then calling it "left wing" is an oversimplification May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TR afiiak, murray is in good standing w/ paypal May 11 12:17
Techrights-sec ack May 11 12:23
schestowitz-TR from memory: CN (ConsortiumNews) was OK at one point, I believe run by the son of the founder after he had died May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR maybe first a heart attack May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR and then death May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR look it up for more accurate details May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR the name was Perry May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR Perry was very good! May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR The current editor is something else May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR and I remove from RSS due to that May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR after many yearts May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR they also used to run columns for decent people May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR Ray McGovern was one of them, IIRC May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR in years that followed they kept getting flagged "Russia" and "propaganda" and stuff May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR it's not 100% unthinkable that some funds for them could be traced back to rather May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR dodgy accounts May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR I don't know if they published pro-Putin talking points May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TR but if they did, it would not shock me May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR they are riding the old name/reputation May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR like Cohn at EFF May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR or several people at OSI May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR (or SPLC May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR iirc, the acronym) May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR I never knew the original SPLC, but was told stories and read about more people leaving May 11 12:30
Techrights-sec ack May 11 12:32
Techrights-sec a lot of names to keep track of May 11 12:32
Techrights-sec not a surprise, the SPLC is not really related to its original form except by May 11 12:32
Techrights-sec name May 11 12:32
Techrights-sec name May 11 12:32
schestowitz-TR fwiw, "mint" seems to have lost Whitney Webb May 11 12:32
schestowitz-TR she is mostly doing her own site now May 11 12:32
schestowitz-TR mintpress is reposting scheer/hedges and a lot of the time posts rather inflammatroy palestnian propaganda May 11 12:32
schestowitz-TR which insinuates a stste of israel does not even exist May 11 12:32
schestowitz-TR it got worse over time May 11 12:32
Techrights-sec I think it is rare to find something good + relevant there these days May 11 12:34
schestowitz-TR I used to skip the most toxic articles there, like I skip seo/webspam in some "linux" sites May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR but at some stage you send gulagjuice and associate with spammy or very bad sites May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR like linking to breitbart or rt May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR which, if it doesn't harm ranking, can derank you in the eyes of readers May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR mostly by associat[on May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR let me check if scheer post (offshoot of now-defuncy truthdig) has rss feed May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR NOT all sites have RSS feeds anymore May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR or they hide those May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR or don't know what the hell that is May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR even when it exists May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR OK, so they have 7 writers now May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TR many of thr old crew at treuthdig May 11 12:36
schestowitz maybe replace mint with https://scheerpost.com/feed/ ? May 11 12:36
Techrights-sec ok May 11 12:39
Techrights-sec some have a feed but accidentally hidden, I rote to a major paper last year May 11 12:39
Techrights-sec some have a feed but accidentally hidden, I rote to a major paper last year May 11 12:39
Techrights-sec and they responded with the URL to their feed, which is nice because all their May 11 12:39
Techrights-sec articles are of good quality even only a few are relevant May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TR social control media and Zuck/MusKSA USED to have RSS feeds May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TR like a decade+ ago May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TR to gain a "base" May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TR but like Gulag, now they hate RSS May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TR because it's a competition to them if widely adopted for all sites May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TR and also threatens their business model May 11 12:40
schestowitz-TR (however sucky those models are) May 11 12:40
Techrights-sec ok, checking May 11 12:40
Techrights-sec Feeds don't enhance "engagement", aslo known as addictive behaviors May 11 12:40
schestowitz-TR RSS feeds => Inbox zero "OCD" at best May 11 12:41
schestowitz-TR infinite scoll is heroin May 11 12:41
schestowitz-TR infinite scroll = soft (or non) boundaries May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR index/rss reader = hard boundaries, even if you infinitely refresh over and over again, like email May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR not great, but it's like vomiting after drinking too much, rathr than going numb and passing out/dying from OD May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR (possible, but rare) May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR hedges have been bouncing from one burning platfoprm to the next for over a decade May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR just like SJVN May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR those people are the "clown computing" of journalism May 11 12:45
Techrights-sec scheerpost is parsable but does not have a concise summary in the body May 11 12:45
Techrights-sec it does have a one-line description though May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR that should do May 11 12:46
Techrights-sec ok May 11 12:46
Techrights-sec check git May 11 12:47
schestowitz-TR it is good that you just commented that out May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR assuming it can improve one day May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR which is rare because May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR once it goes south it loses the audience May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR so it lose the potential of recovery May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR that means that orgs can, over time, get better May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR if they get worse, jump ship May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR don't sink with it May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR I cannot think of an org that recovered May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR with osi it is an avalanche May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR now people complain that even the election process itself is RIGGED May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR not merely technically cracked, defunct May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR so the very machanism for self-repair has been mismantled by Gulag, ICBM and EpsteinPAC (MSFT) May 11 12:51
Techrights-sec applicable name for M$ May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TR I would not call Microsoft anything other than Microsoft May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR because they spent a fortune demonising people who do that May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR also, Epstein is a very loaded topic May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR one could call it "the company founded by Jeffrey Epstein's close buddy" (or "enabler") May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR but it would be off-putting to some audience May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR the "qanon" straw man helps portray any mention of high-profile pedophiles as May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR crackery May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR *crankery May 11 12:54
Techrights-sec yes the reputation management campaigns have made some movement in associating May 11 12:55
Techrights-sec *any* criticism of bill as being unfounded and derived from cranks May 11 12:55
schestowitz-TR don't worry, that won't succeed May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR and it serves to remind people of the scandal he wishes people stopped talking about May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR worse than a scandal May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR there should be an indictment, IMHO May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR (maybe there is one, nbut sealed and with many strings pulled to stop it... like the FL prosecutor... May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR Costa? Acosta?) May 11 12:56
Techrights-sec https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/11/18134325/jeffrey-epstein-miami-herald-alex-acosta-trump May 11 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jeffrey Epstein case: Senate wants answers on Alex Acosta’s role - Vox May 11 12:57
Techrights-sec https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/jeffrey-epstein-unanswered-questions.html May 11 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nymag.com | Jeffrey Epstein: 24 Unanswered Questions May 11 12:57
schestowitz-TR lave it to BillPR (NPR) to paint the criminical as the victim May 11 13:04
schestowitz-TR "oh boy! I have COVID.... how much money did I make on this darn thing??" May 11 13:04
Techrights-sec yep May 11 13:04
Techrights-sec he was the one that cause the promise of royalty-free vaccines to be broken May 11 13:04
schestowitz-TR and for me pointing that out I got banned from twitter for 3 months May 11 13:05
schestowitz-TR (could be forever... all tweets became not visible, unlike now) May 11 13:05
Techrights-sec yep May 11 13:05
schestowitz-TR maybe we should make a new name for Twitter May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR There's social control media May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR and Twitter is the criminal network of social control nework May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR MussKSA May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR to remind people what the owners think of free speech May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR chopping down journalists May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR soon with realDonaldTrump May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR calling for attacks on the government May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec there's a lot of crossover between crime and politics, so trying to make May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec a distinction might not be so useful May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec a distinction might not be so useful May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec yes, the behavior was clearly illegal and breaking the highest laws of the land May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec yet nothing happened, either online or in the courts May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec in response to the crimes May 11 13:07
Techrights-sec in response to the crimes May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TR in countries which fail to prosecute criminal there are terms for that May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR formal names like "rogue nation" May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR bush names like "axis of evil" May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR or trump with "shithole countries" May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR I'm glad I don't live there. my sister regrete moving there, almost as soon as she had moved she felt that.. May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR and time did not change her mind May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR she lives in "film" version of USA May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR not what's down on the ground May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR USA spends a lot more in marketing than most other industries except maybe weapons May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR (mostly because the arms are sold for like 10-100 times their production cost... graft_ May 11 13:10
Techrights-sec it was getting bad in the 1990s.  I cannot imaging how whacko it has gotten since May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR ) May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR a friend who travels a lot would have me assume life in china is no worse than in usa May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TR but you know... marketing (or "social media" campaigns) May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TR japan... "aging population" May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TR misnomer for tackling overpopulation May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TR as if nobody in the world would wish to work in japan and look after enderly people May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec ack May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec there has been a sea change in values and attitude there, and much for the worse May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec there has been a sea change in values and attitude there, and much for the worse May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec 40 years ago the situation would have been unimaginable and scoffed at if May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec described; May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec described; May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TR <techrights-news> "WIPO has finally responded to the Debian vendetta, informing the overpaid lawyers at Charles Fussell (parody site) that their claim didn't even reach first base." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164485#comment-33615 May 11 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Community News: Jonathan Cohen, Charles Fussell & Debian embezzlement | Tux Machines May 11 13:22
Techrights-sec PH is now in worse trouble than it already had been and he only makes it worse May 11 13:23
Techrights-sec From what I read social control media had more than a small role in the May 11 13:23
Techrights-sec situation May 11 13:23
Techrights-sec situation May 11 13:23
schestowitz-TR From Truman to Trumpman May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR same level of intellect May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR or, a reflection oof nationmal IQ level May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR apropos, ph is electing Ferdinand (jr.) Marcos BACK May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR I LOL so hard May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR yearning for the good days... of a mythical version of a dictator May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR yes, social conytrol media is lie amplifier May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR so it favours liars like Trump May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR and even Putin May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR but with Putin Twitter seems to have kicked off some "special treatment" May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TR they will soon unleash back a Russian candiate for 2024 May 11 13:25
Techrights-sec Interesting.  Sad that Debian project has been infiltrated to the extent that May 11 13:26
Techrights-sec they play that game now.  It was clearly in trouble when they acquiesced       May 11 13:26
Techrights-sec regarding 1 single person's call for systemd.  It wasn't even 4th choice IIRC May 11 13:26
Techrights-sec That candidate would be the same one as before May 11 13:26
Techrights-sec " There are no social media links here. Enjoy a friendly Citadel community instead. Or go outside. " May 11 13:32
Techrights-sec https://www.citadel.org/support.html May 11 13:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-citadel.org May 11 13:32
schestowitz-TR "for everything else, there's masterslave" May 11 13:32
schestowitz-TR a decade ago lunduke throw "antisemite" bombs at fabsh from linux outlaws May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TR now he does to a former employer, suse May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TR get popcorn May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TR maybe it'll become just as risky to hire people with religious beliefs May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TR as it is to hire feminists, trans etc. May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TR you don't know how that's going to end up May 11 13:58
Techrights-sec ack May 11 13:58
Techrights-sec One place I was working for and some not so bright managers that felt cornered May 11 14:02
Techrights-sec because of one job candidate.  The candidate had gag orders on the previous May 11 14:02
Techrights-sec three employers which was discovered when the committee called around. May 11 14:02
Techrights-sec The candidate then threatened to sue if she was not hired.  I don't know May 11 14:02
Techrights-sec how that one turned out as I was leaving at the time.   May 11 14:02
schestowitz-TR There must be a lot more to the story as it makes little sense on the surface May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TR I was in this situation 3 days ago, so I spoke to Rianne's dad May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TR and he clarified what was going on, given the right questions May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TR being asked (regarding a relative) May 11 14:03
Techrights-sec Yes it is curious that he is compelled to bring up the subject now, after May 11 14:05
Techrights-sec so many years have gone by. May 11 14:05
Techrights-sec :) May 11 14:05
Techrights-sec :) May 11 14:05
schestowitz-TR (nb: being a thorn on the side of aggressive lawyers who could not possibly do May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR anything to you, with any legal basis, is a bonus in activism ;-) ) May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR as I said, he did the same to fabsh May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR fabsh was livid a May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR and he threatened to take action against me for merely mentioning what Lunduke published May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR and then deleted, maybe under a day later May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR and then deleted, maybe under a day later May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR so lunduke might be one of those people with inner fear of germans May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR (I cannot totally blame him, in irc we have at least 2 people like that) May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR 0/ May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TR at some stage I shall do a second video about Debian TM action May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TR but quite likely when the action ends May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TR in the meantime I use tuxmachines to amass the material May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TR aterial May 11 14:12
schestowitz-TR bottom line is, lunduke adnd libreboot dev are people you should be super-careful inm hiring May 11 14:12
schestowitz-TR because you never know how that might end up May 11 14:12
schestowitz-TR they openly signal this lack of loyalty  and I could give other example of very erratic people (Lunduke = ex -MSFT) May 11 14:12
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schestowitz-TR https://nitter.nocturn9x.space/zoobab/status/1524392704553148417#m May 11 16:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.nocturn9x.space | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): ""International Blackmail Machine (IBM) is still lobbying for software patents and is still weaponising software patents, even in courts; what does that mean for a company like RedHat, which kept assuring us that there’s no need to worry about its patents?" http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/big-blue-bully/" | Nocturn9x - Nitter May 11 16:04
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Techrights-sec yes, lunduke is known to fall into recidivism from time to time, despite May 11 17:48
Techrights-sec formally having left M$ long ago   May 11 17:48
Techrights-sec formally having left M$ long ago   May 11 17:48
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/ May 11 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights May 11 18:20
schestowitz-TR <techrights-news> Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33623 May 11 19:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines May 11 19:18
schestowitz-TR worth doing a video on this topic (again)? May 11 19:18
Techrights-sec I think so.  Especially in light of the staff lineup.   May 11 19:18
schestowitz-TR I know about the IPO talk (liquidation), but did they hire more from Microsoft? May 11 19:19
schestowitz-TR This author is new to me, I did not check his background, he keeps shilling Windows May 11 19:19
schestowitz-TR after Barnes left the company May 11 19:19
schestowitz-TR and the lady with Roy in her name I've not seen in ages, either May 11 19:19
schestowitz-TR "Product Manager" May 11 19:21
schestowitz-TR His first post Oct 19 2021 May 11 19:21
schestowitz-TR his name is so generic I'd not find it easy to locate past employment May 11 19:22
schestowitz-TR Oliver Smith May 11 19:22
schestowitz-TR with a "twiust" May 11 19:22
schestowitz-TR Oliver Smith May 11 19:22
schestowitz-TR with a "twiust" May 11 19:22
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