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*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-socialMay 11 01:32
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Techrights-secITWire seems to have fixed its hosting problem, at least temporarily.May 11 07:43
Techrights-secITWire seems to have fixed its hosting problem, at least temporarily.May 11 07:43
Techrights-sectr/tm monitoring seems to have worked, at least for tr, there was the usualMay 11 07:43
Techrights-sectr/tm monitoring seems to have worked, at least for tr, there was the usualMay 11 07:43
Techrights-secbrief slowdown at 03:40 for the system activities but nothing otherwiseMay 11 07:43
Techrights-secbrief slowdown at 03:40 for the system activities but nothing otherwiseMay 11 07:43
schestowitz-TRwhere is itwire now?May 11 07:44
schestowitz-TRwhere is itwire now?May 11 07:44
Techrights-secdigitalPacificMay 11 07:45
Techrights-secin AustraliaMay 11 07:45
Techrights-secDIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD w HQ in NSWMay 11 07:45
Techrights-secdigitalPacificMay 11 07:45
Techrights-secin AustraliaMay 11 07:45
Techrights-secDIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD w HQ in NSWMay 11 07:45
schestowitz-TRmaybe for technical reasonsMay 11 07:46
schestowitz-TRmaybe for technical reasonsMay 11 07:46
schestowitz-TRazure is a jokeMay 11 07:46
schestowitz-TRazure is a jokeMay 11 07:46
Techrights-seca bad joke at best; hopefully ITWire learned its lesson about wasting moneyMay 11 07:47
Techrights-seca bad joke at best; hopefully ITWire learned its lesson about wasting moneyMay 11 07:47
Techrights-secit's suppose to be quite expensive compare to the services it immitatesMay 11 07:47
Techrights-secit's suppose to be quite expensive compare to the services it immitatesMay 11 07:47
Techrights-secin addition to the availability problems and suchMay 11 07:47
Techrights-secin addition to the availability problems and suchMay 11 07:47
schestowitz-TRthanks for reminding me for mentioning something about azure in case I resign sooner than expectedMay 11 07:48
schestowitz-TRthanks for reminding me for mentioning something about azure in case I resign sooner than expectedMay 11 07:48
Techrights-secI wouldn't waste the time, but if you think it will come up the pricing is   May 11 07:53
Techrights-secI wouldn't waste the time, but if you think it will come up the pricing is   May 11 07:53
Techrights-secprobably public though most likely misleading May 11 07:53
Techrights-secprobably public though most likely misleading May 11 07:53
Techrights-secapologies in advance for the link but no sites cover azure, since it is notMay 11 07:53
Techrights-secrelevant: https://www.zdnet.com/article/global-azure-outage-knocked-out-virtual-machines-other-vm-dependent-services/May 11 07:53
Techrights-sechttps://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/what-happened-with-microsoft-azures-active-directory-and-dns-outagesMay 11 07:53
Techrights-secapologies in advance for the link but no sites cover azure, since it is notMay 11 07:53
Techrights-secrelevant: https://www.zdnet.com/article/global-azure-outage-knocked-out-virtual-machines-other-vm-dependent-services/May 11 07:53
Techrights-sechttps://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/what-happened-with-microsoft-azures-active-directory-and-dns-outagesMay 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure outage knocked out virtual machines, other VM-dependent services | ZDNetMay 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure outage knocked out virtual machines, other VM-dependent services | ZDNetMay 11 07:53
Techrights-sechttps://www.exoprise.com/2021/12/16/azure-ad-microsoft-365-outage-december-15/May 11 07:53
Techrights-sechttps://www.exoprise.com/2021/12/16/azure-ad-microsoft-365-outage-december-15/May 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-acloudguru.com | What happened with Microsoft Azure’s AD and DNS outages? | A Cloud GuruMay 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-acloudguru.com | What happened with Microsoft Azure’s AD and DNS outages? | A Cloud GuruMay 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure AD Outage Affecting Microsoft 365 Services December 15 - ExopriseMay 11 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure AD Outage Affecting Microsoft 365 Services December 15 - ExopriseMay 11 07:53
schestowitz-TRputting brands aside, anfocusing on concepts like in CS<May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRputting brands aside, anfocusing on concepts like in CS<May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRwe can just tell people that "clown" means they are totally not inMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRwe can just tell people that "clown" means they are totally not inMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRcontrol;May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRcontrol;May 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRthe clown controls are vendor lockin, so it's harder to move away than with tradition hostsMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRthe clown controls are vendor lockin, so it's harder to move away than with tradition hostsMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRe.g. cpanel on centosMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRe.g. cpanel on centosMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRBTW, Canonical was shilling a Windows laptop yesterdayMay 11 07:55
schestowitz-TRBTW, Canonical was shilling a Windows laptop yesterdayMay 11 07:55
Techrights-sechttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29574027May 11 08:02
Techrights-sechttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29574027May 11 08:02
Techrights-secmostly covered by crap sitesMay 11 08:02
Techrights-secmostly covered by crap sitesMay 11 08:02
Techrights-secyes the UI for the systems tends to be proprietary with clown computing, May 11 08:02
Techrights-secyes the UI for the systems tends to be proprietary with clown computing, May 11 08:02
Techrights-secinstead of bog standard SSH or KVM (keyboard video)May 11 08:02
Techrights-secinstead of bog standard SSH or KVM (keyboard video)May 11 08:02
Techrights-secCanonical has been full of microsofters for years, I'm surprised they     May 11 08:02
Techrights-secCanonical has been full of microsofters for years, I'm surprised they     May 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | Tell HN: Azure is having a major outage | Hacker NewsMay 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | Tell HN: Azure is having a major outage | Hacker NewsMay 11 08:02
Techrights-sechaven't managed to cancel Ubuntu from the inside.  Though it does seem thatMay 11 08:02
Techrights-sechaven't managed to cancel Ubuntu from the inside.  Though it does seem thatMay 11 08:02
Techrights-secCanonical has been misdirecting and wasting effort since thatincursion startedMay 11 08:02
Techrights-secCanonical has been misdirecting and wasting effort since thatincursion startedMay 11 08:02
Techrights-sechttps://www.computerweekly.com/news/252497921/Microsoft-cloud-users-hit-by-global-outage-linked-to-Azure-Active-Directory-issueMay 11 08:02
Techrights-sechttps://www.computerweekly.com/news/252497921/Microsoft-cloud-users-hit-by-global-outage-linked-to-Azure-Active-Directory-issueMay 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft cloud users hit by global outage linked to Azure Active Directory issueMay 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft cloud users hit by global outage linked to Azure Active Directory issueMay 11 08:02
Techrights-sechttps://www.crn.com/slide-shows/cloud/the-10-biggest-cloud-outages-of-2021-so-far-/7May 11 08:02
Techrights-sechttps://www.crn.com/slide-shows/cloud/the-10-biggest-cloud-outages-of-2021-so-far-/7May 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crn.com | The 10 Biggest Cloud Outages Of 2021 (So Far)May 11 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crn.com | The 10 Biggest Cloud Outages Of 2021 (So Far)May 11 08:02
schestowitz-TRa prt of me reallyy hope for closure re the companyMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRa prt of me reallyy hope for closure re the companyMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRrianne had come to acceptance of that tooMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRrianne had come to acceptance of that tooMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRBTW, see the storyat the very top of TM right nowMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRBTW, see the storyat the very top of TM right nowMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRI also put it in my notes to use the spare time to improve the sites, as if it was part of the jobMay 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRI also put it in my notes to use the spare time to improve the sites, as if it was part of the jobMay 11 08:09
Techrights-seccheckingMay 11 08:11
Techrights-seccheckingMay 11 08:11
Techrights-secFedora or TM turning 18?May 11 08:11
Techrights-secFedora or TM turning 18?May 11 08:11
schestowitz-TRdid I say Fedoa?May 11 08:11
schestowitz-TRdid I say Fedoa?May 11 08:11
schestowitzx https://text.npr.org/1098066371May 11 08:20
schestowitzx https://text.npr.org/1098066371May 11 08:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Bill Gates tests positive for COVID-19, says he's experiencing mild symptomsMay 11 08:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Bill Gates tests positive for COVID-19, says he's experiencing mild symptomsMay 11 08:20
Techrights-secthat's at the top of TM atmMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secI see further down something about Windoze workstationsMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secthat's at the top of TM atmMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secI see further down something about Windoze workstationsMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secthat article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroyMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secthat article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroyMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secor at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usageMay 11 08:27
Techrights-secor at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usageMay 11 08:27
schestowitz-TR EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFFMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFFMay 11 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFFMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFFMay 11 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 08:33
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schestowitz-TR[09:36] <techrights-news> MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye ☛ https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmogMay 11 09:37
schestowitz-TR[09:36] <techrights-news> MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye ☛ https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmogMay 11 09:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Twitter’s New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmogMay 11 09:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Twitter’s New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmogMay 11 09:37
Techrights-secyep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformationMay 11 09:38
Techrights-secyep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformationMay 11 09:38
Techrights-secat a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw beforeMay 11 09:38
Techrights-secat a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw beforeMay 11 09:38
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFFMay 11 09:39
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFFMay 11 09:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 09:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 11 09:39
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOutMay 11 09:40
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOutMay 11 09:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Elon Musk Says He’ll Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban “Foolish”May 11 09:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Elon Musk Says He’ll Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban “Foolish”May 11 09:40
Techrights-secencouraging incitement to violence and other already illegal activities is justMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secencouraging incitement to violence and other already illegal activities is justMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secone means of spreading strifeMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secone means of spreading strifeMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secfree speech is just a red herring and collateral damage since it gets associatedMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secfree speech is just a red herring and collateral damage since it gets associatedMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secwith illegal activities there; it has gone so far that the term "free speech" May 11 09:43
Techrights-secwith illegal activities there; it has gone so far that the term "free speech" May 11 09:43
Techrights-sechas become a dog whistle for several political leanings who use it to referMay 11 09:43
Techrights-sechas become a dog whistle for several political leanings who use it to referMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secto hate speech and various other problems including already illegal activitiesMay 11 09:43
Techrights-secto hate speech and various other problems including already illegal activitiesMay 11 09:43
schestowitz-TRwe need to keep driving home that message May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRwe need to keep driving home that message May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TReven if that takes yearsMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TReven if that takes yearsMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TReven just changing vocabularies can helpMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TReven just changing vocabularies can helpMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRsocial control media, clownflare etc.May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRsocial control media, clownflare etc.May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRI think catchy phrases spread faster May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRI think catchy phrases spread faster May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRopenwashing is one I coined 15 years ago (afaik)May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRopenwashing is one I coined 15 years ago (afaik)May 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRit's a shaming wordMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRit's a shaming wordMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRmaybe OSI will say it's a homophobic termMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRmaybe OSI will say it's a homophobic termMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRscrew themMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRscrew themMay 11 09:51
schestowitz-TRTwitter has, in general, gone well past its peak, even before tryint to cash in (by axing third parties) in 2018May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRTwitter has, in general, gone well past its peak, even before tryint to cash in (by axing third parties) in 2018May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRI think the HUGE focus on Trump harmed themMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRI think the HUGE focus on Trump harmed themMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRthey actively promotes pro- and anti-Trump instead of focusing on what users ACTUALLYMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRthey actively promotes pro- and anti-Trump instead of focusing on what users ACTUALLYMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRFOLLOWED!!! And that led to emotional drainMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRFOLLOWED!!! And that led to emotional drainMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRMastodon came about, but I know from experience how shtty it can be May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRMastodon came about, but I know from experience how shtty it can be May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRfor multiple reasonMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRfor multiple reasonMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRpeople who STILL dabble in those things don't reach big audiencesMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRpeople who STILL dabble in those things don't reach big audiencesMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRdistrotoot and devault shut those downMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRdistrotoot and devault shut those downMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRbecause it was more trouble than it was worthMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRbecause it was more trouble than it was worthMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRI do not REGRET spending the time I did in those "sites"May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRI do not REGRET spending the time I did in those "sites"May 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRI partly regret not leaving soonerMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRI partly regret not leaving soonerMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRas some of them had run our of users years agoMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRas some of them had run our of users years agoMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRand were not worth the hassle anymoreMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRand were not worth the hassle anymoreMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRTwitter IS STILL TOTALLY FAKING ITMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRTwitter IS STILL TOTALLY FAKING ITMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRsince 2 weeks before the sale they're shown my stats QUADRUPLINGMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRsince 2 weeks before the sale they're shown my stats QUADRUPLINGMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRevery dayMay 11 09:57
schestowitz-TRevery dayMay 11 09:57
Techrights-secackMay 11 09:59
Techrights-secackMay 11 09:59
Techrights-secif twitter is engaged in fraud, that is actionable by the SEC among others    May 11 09:59
Techrights-secif twitter is engaged in fraud, that is actionable by the SEC among others    May 11 09:59
Techrights-secif I understand correctlyMay 11 09:59
Techrights-secif I understand correctlyMay 11 09:59
schestowitz-TRgood luck proving itMay 11 10:00
schestowitz-TRgood luck proving itMay 11 10:00
schestowitz-TR"open source" as code for "Trump is back"May 11 10:00
schestowitz-TR"open source" as code for "Trump is back"May 11 10:00
schestowitz-TRMusKSA will tarnish the terms "free speech" and "Open Source" some moreMay 11 10:00
schestowitz-TRMusKSA will tarnish the terms "free speech" and "Open Source" some moreMay 11 10:00
schestowitz-TRmedia already used Mastoidon et al to associate us with HATE speech, Nazis, ISIS...May 11 10:00
schestowitz-TRmedia already used Mastoidon et al to associate us with HATE speech, Nazis, ISIS...May 11 10:00
Techrights-secit looks that way    May 11 10:01
Techrights-secit looks that way    May 11 10:01
Techrights-secthey will leverage anything to inhibit software freedomMay 11 10:01
Techrights-secthey will leverage anything to inhibit software freedomMay 11 10:01
Techrights-secyes, as mentioned the phrase "free speech" is being used as a dog whistleMay 11 10:01
Techrights-secyes, as mentioned the phrase "free speech" is being used as a dog whistleMay 11 10:01
schestowitz-TRdefrauding the public using tweets = "free speech"May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TRdefrauding the public using tweets = "free speech"May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TRvisiting Epstein in PRISON = "free speech"May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TRvisiting Epstein in PRISON = "free speech"May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TR(billg: I was in contact with him to meet rich people... yeah, the prison was a C&^C Centre for rich people ^_^ )May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TR(billg: I was in contact with him to meet rich people... yeah, the prison was a C&^C Centre for rich people ^_^ )May 11 10:03
schestowitz-TRI don't always do social networking with bankstersMay 11 10:04
schestowitz-TRI don't always do social networking with bankstersMay 11 10:04
schestowitz-TRbut when I do, I go into a cage with one person in orange shirt May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TRbut when I do, I go into a cage with one person in orange shirt May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TR[meme]May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TR[meme]May 11 10:04
schestowitz-TR[10:10] <techrights-news> MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common DreamsMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TR[10:10] <techrights-news> MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common DreamsMay 11 10:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade'May 11 10:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade'May 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRcorrect me if I missed something, but FSF said nothingMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRcorrect me if I missed something, but FSF said nothingMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRin IRCMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRin IRCMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRin twitterMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRin twitterMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRin fsf.orgMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRin fsf.orgMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRabout the Twitetr saleMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRabout the Twitetr saleMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRtook them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client sideMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRtook them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client sideMay 11 10:10
schestowitz-TRand they are STILL on thereMay 11 10:11
schestowitz-TRand they are STILL on thereMay 11 10:11
Techrights-secackMay 11 10:21
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*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th6czuhh2gauq.irc) has joined #boycottnovellMay 11 11:00
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Techrights-secdo you have external speakers on the rpi?  I'm wondering if it is worthMay 11 11:08
Techrights-secdo you have external speakers on the rpi?  I'm wondering if it is worthMay 11 11:08
Techrights-secadding audio to the monitoring programMay 11 11:08
Techrights-secadding audio to the monitoring programMay 11 11:08
Techrights-secbeyond the GPIO buzzerMay 11 11:08
Techrights-secbeyond the GPIO buzzerMay 11 11:08
schestowitz-TRno, I did plug in the headphones after putting debian 11 and iirc it workedMay 11 11:12
schestowitz-TRno, I did plug in the headphones after putting debian 11 and iirc it workedMay 11 11:12
schestowitz-TRbut not without themMay 11 11:12
schestowitz-TRbut not without themMay 11 11:12
schestowitz-TRand I'm not even sure it did work, I just forgotMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRand I'm not even sure it did work, I just forgotMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRthe pi is only visible in another roomMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRthe pi is only visible in another roomMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR(where rianne works)May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR(where rianne works)May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRbtw, rianne is doign research on .gov sitesMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRbtw, rianne is doign research on .gov sitesMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRre rights of workersMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRre rights of workersMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRwe don't want to get trickedMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRwe don't want to get trickedMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRthe important thing is like "right to remain silent"May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRthe important thing is like "right to remain silent"May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRand decide later, offlineMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRand decide later, offlineMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRas there are legal hacks to avoid paying compensation etc.May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRas there are legal hacks to avoid paying compensation etc.May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR"roy, would you like to work on a Microsoft project???"May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TR"roy, would you like to work on a Microsoft project???"May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRif I say "no", I can lose the right for compensation over 11+ yearsMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRif I say "no", I can lose the right for compensation over 11+ yearsMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRI also may need to check the nregistration status of the companies (now sliced into 3, at least two in debt)May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRI also may need to check the nregistration status of the companies (now sliced into 3, at least two in debt)May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRapproaching an employment lawyer before knowing the facts is hardMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRapproaching an employment lawyer before knowing the facts is hardMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRlol, imagine going on the call with a lawyer next to me :-)May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRlol, imagine going on the call with a lawyer next to me :-)May 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRthat would piss them offMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRthat would piss them offMay 11 11:13
Techrights-secokMay 11 11:13
Techrights-sec:( sounds like some kind of debt shuffle to leave someone holding the bagMay 11 11:13
Techrights-secokMay 11 11:13
Techrights-sec:( sounds like some kind of debt shuffle to leave someone holding the bagMay 11 11:13
schestowitz-TRwe are not and were never registered as shareholdersMay 11 11:14
schestowitz-TRwe are not and were never registered as shareholdersMay 11 11:14
schestowitz-TRI think one colleague foolishly may have, but not usMay 11 11:14
schestowitz-TRI think one colleague foolishly may have, but not usMay 11 11:14
schestowitz-TRand I checked with the pension provider, very long call, she even asked a colleague to verifyMay 11 11:14
schestowitz-TRand I checked with the pension provider, very long call, she even asked a colleague to verifyMay 11 11:14
Techrights-secthat a reliefMay 11 11:15
Techrights-secthat a reliefMay 11 11:15
schestowitz-TRhaving just used intercom (rianne sends links over ssh, via pi)May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRhaving just used intercom (rianne sends links over ssh, via pi)May 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRwe agreed that maybe they take 9 days not as strategic nuisnaceMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRwe agreed that maybe they take 9 days not as strategic nuisnaceMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRbut rather to prepare for a stage entrapmentMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRbut rather to prepare for a stage entrapmentMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRand we should basically say nothing back, just record the thingMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRand we should basically say nothing back, just record the thingMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRand repeat, we need to checkMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRand repeat, we need to checkMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TReven if they repeatedly prodMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TReven if they repeatedly prodMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRI don't mind paying a legal veteran to study this and advice afterwardsMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TRI don't mind paying a legal veteran to study this and advice afterwardsMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR*adviseMay 11 11:17
schestowitz-TR*adviseMay 11 11:17
Techrights-secsounds like a wise approachMay 11 11:23
Techrights-secsounds like a wise approachMay 11 11:23
schestowitz-TRwarning: there is a good chance I might accept a more demanding role for few hours per weekMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRwarning: there is a good chance I might accept a more demanding role for few hours per weekMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRrianne saw job ads yesterday at the shopMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRrianne saw job ads yesterday at the shopMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRrealised she was being paid more than the managers thereMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRrealised she was being paid more than the managers thereMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRto basically babysit elaphants in LibreWolf (ad-freee GulagTube)May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRto basically babysit elaphants in LibreWolf (ad-freee GulagTube)May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRand having no job at all is fun only while funds last, it's not a long-term strategyMay 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRand having no job at all is fun only while funds last, it's not a long-term strategyMay 11 11:26
Techrights-secackMay 11 11:26
Techrights-sec:)May 11 11:26
Techrights-secackMay 11 11:26
Techrights-sec:)May 11 11:26
schestowitz-TRat 200 years combined we'reMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRat 200 years combined we'reMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR*20 years May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR*20 years May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRwe are too expensive to get rid ofMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRwe are too expensive to get rid ofMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR(if I understand the law correctly, with the caveats)May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TR(if I understand the law correctly, with the caveats)May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRand I have not ofended anyone yet(May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRand I have not ofended anyone yet(May 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRirc is like tv to amish in our companyMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRirc is like tv to amish in our companyMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRthey know that to do more technical work I demand a suitable salary and better working hoursMay 11 11:29
schestowitz-TRthey know that to do more technical work I demand a suitable salary and better working hoursMay 11 11:29
Techrights-secgoodMay 11 11:30
Techrights-secgoodMay 11 11:30
schestowitz-TRthe latest from paypal (I do manually curated last) shows the centralisation issueMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRthe latest from paypal (I do manually curated last) shows the centralisation issueMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRin content of financingMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRin content of financingMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRconsortiumnews became more probelemic in recent yearsMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRconsortiumnews became more probelemic in recent yearsMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRI unsubscribed because some of their virew were a little radical for meMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRI unsubscribed because some of their virew were a little radical for meMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRsame for offguardianMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRsame for offguardianMay 11 12:13
schestowitz-TRand mint  May 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRand mint  May 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRusuauly I'd just skip the rotten onesMay 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRusuauly I'd just skip the rotten onesMay 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRfrom the new ownersMay 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRfrom the new ownersMay 11 12:14
Techrights-secshould the three be added to the blacklist then?May 11 12:14
Techrights-secshould the three be added to the blacklist then?May 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRbut if they become frequent I don't want to associate in any way anymoreMay 11 12:14
schestowitz-TRbut if they become frequent I don't want to associate in any way anymoreMay 11 12:14
Techrights-secshould the three be added to the blacklist then?May 11 12:17
Techrights-secokMay 11 12:17
Techrights-secshould the three be added to the blacklist then?May 11 12:17
Techrights-secokMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRno,May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRno,May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRI am still reading the picksMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRI am still reading the picksMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRto understand the extent of the ban May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRto understand the extent of the ban May 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRif it's just Joe LauriaMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRif it's just Joe LauriaMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRthen calling it "left wing" is an oversimplificationMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRthen calling it "left wing" is an oversimplificationMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRafiiak, murray is in good standing w/ paypalMay 11 12:17
schestowitz-TRafiiak, murray is in good standing w/ paypalMay 11 12:17
Techrights-secackMay 11 12:23
Techrights-secackMay 11 12:23
schestowitz-TRfrom memory: CN (ConsortiumNews) was OK at one point, I believe run by the son of the founder after he had diedMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRfrom memory: CN (ConsortiumNews) was OK at one point, I believe run by the son of the founder after he had diedMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRmaybe first a heart attackMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRmaybe first a heart attackMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRand then deathMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRand then deathMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRlook it up for more accurate detailsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRlook it up for more accurate detailsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRthe name was PerryMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRthe name was PerryMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRPerry was very good!May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRPerry was very good!May 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRThe current editor is something elseMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRThe current editor is something elseMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRand I remove from RSS due to thatMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRand I remove from RSS due to thatMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRafter many yeartsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRafter many yeartsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRthey also used to run columns for decent peopleMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRthey also used to run columns for decent peopleMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRRay McGovern was one of them, IIRCMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRRay McGovern was one of them, IIRCMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRin years that followed they kept getting flagged "Russia" and "propaganda" and stuffMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRin years that followed they kept getting flagged "Russia" and "propaganda" and stuffMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRit's not 100% unthinkable that some funds for them could be traced back to ratherMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRit's not 100% unthinkable that some funds for them could be traced back to ratherMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRdodgy accountsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRdodgy accountsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRI don't know if they published pro-Putin talking pointsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRI don't know if they published pro-Putin talking pointsMay 11 12:29
schestowitz-TRbut if they did, it would not shock meMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRbut if they did, it would not shock meMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRthey are riding the old name/reputation May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRthey are riding the old name/reputation May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRlike Cohn at EFFMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRlike Cohn at EFFMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRor several people at OSIMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRor several people at OSIMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR(or SPLCMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TR(or SPLCMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRiirc, the acronym)May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRiirc, the acronym)May 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRI never knew the original SPLC, but was told stories and read about more people leavingMay 11 12:30
schestowitz-TRI never knew the original SPLC, but was told stories and read about more people leavingMay 11 12:30
Techrights-secackMay 11 12:32
Techrights-secackMay 11 12:32
Techrights-seca lot of names to keep track ofMay 11 12:32
Techrights-seca lot of names to keep track ofMay 11 12:32
Techrights-secnot a surprise, the SPLC is not really related to its original form except byMay 11 12:32
Techrights-secnameMay 11 12:32
Techrights-secnot a surprise, the SPLC is not really related to its original form except byMay 11 12:32
Techrights-secnameMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRfwiw, "mint" seems to have lost Whitney WebbMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRfwiw, "mint" seems to have lost Whitney WebbMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRshe is mostly doing her own site nowMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRshe is mostly doing her own site nowMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRmintpress is reposting scheer/hedges and a lot of the time posts rather inflammatroy palestnian propagandaMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRmintpress is reposting scheer/hedges and a lot of the time posts rather inflammatroy palestnian propagandaMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRwhich insinuates a stste of israel does not even existMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRwhich insinuates a stste of israel does not even existMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRit got worse over timeMay 11 12:32
schestowitz-TRit got worse over timeMay 11 12:32
Techrights-secI think it is rare to find something good + relevant there these daysMay 11 12:34
Techrights-secI think it is rare to find something good + relevant there these daysMay 11 12:34
schestowitz-TRI used to skip the most toxic articles there, like I skip seo/webspam in some "linux" sitesMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRI used to skip the most toxic articles there, like I skip seo/webspam in some "linux" sitesMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRbut at some stage you send gulagjuice and associate with spammy or very bad sitesMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRbut at some stage you send gulagjuice and associate with spammy or very bad sitesMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRlike linking to breitbart or rtMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRlike linking to breitbart or rtMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRwhich, if it doesn't harm ranking, can derank you in the eyes of readersMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRwhich, if it doesn't harm ranking, can derank you in the eyes of readersMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRmostly by associat[on May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRmostly by associat[on May 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRlet me check if scheer post (offshoot of now-defuncy truthdig) has rss feedMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRlet me check if scheer post (offshoot of now-defuncy truthdig) has rss feedMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRNOT all sites have RSS feeds anymoreMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRNOT all sites have RSS feeds anymoreMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRor they hide thoseMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRor they hide thoseMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRor don't know what the hell that isMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRor don't know what the hell that isMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TReven when it existsMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TReven when it existsMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TROK, so they have 7 writers nowMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TROK, so they have 7 writers nowMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRmany of thr old crew at treuthdigMay 11 12:36
schestowitz-TRmany of thr old crew at treuthdigMay 11 12:36
schestowitzmaybe replace mint with https://scheerpost.com/feed/ ?May 11 12:36
schestowitzmaybe replace mint with https://scheerpost.com/feed/ ?May 11 12:36
Techrights-secokMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secsome have a feed but accidentally hidden, I rote to a major paper last yearMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secokMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secsome have a feed but accidentally hidden, I rote to a major paper last yearMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secand they responded with the URL to their feed, which is nice because all theirMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secand they responded with the URL to their feed, which is nice because all theirMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secarticles are of good quality even only a few are relevantMay 11 12:39
Techrights-secarticles are of good quality even only a few are relevantMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRsocial control media and Zuck/MusKSA USED to have RSS feedsMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRsocial control media and Zuck/MusKSA USED to have RSS feedsMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRlike a decade+ agoMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRlike a decade+ agoMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRto gain a "base"May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRto gain a "base"May 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRbut like Gulag, now they hate RSSMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRbut like Gulag, now they hate RSSMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRbecause it's a competition to them if widely adopted for all sitesMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRbecause it's a competition to them if widely adopted for all sitesMay 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRand also threatens their business modelMay 11 12:40
schestowitz-TRand also threatens their business modelMay 11 12:40
schestowitz-TR(however sucky those models are)May 11 12:40
schestowitz-TR(however sucky those models are)May 11 12:40
Techrights-secok, checkingMay 11 12:40
Techrights-secok, checkingMay 11 12:40
Techrights-secFeeds don't enhance "engagement", aslo known as addictive behaviorsMay 11 12:40
Techrights-secFeeds don't enhance "engagement", aslo known as addictive behaviorsMay 11 12:40
schestowitz-TRRSS feeds => Inbox zero "OCD" at bestMay 11 12:41
schestowitz-TRRSS feeds => Inbox zero "OCD" at bestMay 11 12:41
schestowitz-TRinfinite scoll is heroinMay 11 12:41
schestowitz-TRinfinite scoll is heroinMay 11 12:41
schestowitz-TRinfinite scroll = soft (or non) boundariesMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRinfinite scroll = soft (or non) boundariesMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRindex/rss reader = hard boundaries, even if you infinitely refresh over and over again, like emailMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRindex/rss reader = hard boundaries, even if you infinitely refresh over and over again, like emailMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRnot great, but it's like vomiting after drinking too much, rathr than going numb and passing out/dying from ODMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRnot great, but it's like vomiting after drinking too much, rathr than going numb and passing out/dying from ODMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR(possible, but rare)May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TR(possible, but rare)May 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRhedges have been bouncing from one burning platfoprm to the next for over a decadeMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRhedges have been bouncing from one burning platfoprm to the next for over a decadeMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRjust like SJVNMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRjust like SJVNMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRthose people are the "clown computing" of journalismMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRthose people are the "clown computing" of journalismMay 11 12:45
Techrights-secscheerpost is parsable but does not have a concise summary in the bodyMay 11 12:45
Techrights-secscheerpost is parsable but does not have a concise summary in the bodyMay 11 12:45
Techrights-secit does have a one-line description thoughMay 11 12:45
Techrights-secit does have a one-line description thoughMay 11 12:45
schestowitz-TRthat should doMay 11 12:46
schestowitz-TRthat should doMay 11 12:46
Techrights-secok May 11 12:46
Techrights-secok May 11 12:46
Techrights-seccheck gitMay 11 12:47
Techrights-seccheck gitMay 11 12:47
schestowitz-TRit is good that you just commented that outMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRit is good that you just commented that outMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRassuming it can improve one dayMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRassuming it can improve one dayMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRwhich is rare becauseMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRwhich is rare becauseMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRonce it goes south it loses the audience May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRonce it goes south it loses the audience May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRso it lose the potential of recoveryMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRso it lose the potential of recoveryMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRthat means that orgs can, over time, get betterMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRthat means that orgs can, over time, get betterMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRif they get worse, jump shipMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRif they get worse, jump shipMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRdon't sink with itMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRdon't sink with itMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRI cannot think of an org that recoveredMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRI cannot think of an org that recoveredMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRwith osi it is an avalancheMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRwith osi it is an avalancheMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRnow people complain that even the election process itself is RIGGEDMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRnow people complain that even the election process itself is RIGGEDMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRnot merely technically cracked, defunctMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRnot merely technically cracked, defunctMay 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRso the very machanism for self-repair has been mismantled by Gulag, ICBM and EpsteinPAC (MSFT)May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRso the very machanism for self-repair has been mismantled by Gulag, ICBM and EpsteinPAC (MSFT)May 11 12:51
Techrights-secapplicable name for M$May 11 12:51
Techrights-secapplicable name for M$May 11 12:51
schestowitz-TRI would not call Microsoft anything other than MicrosoftMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRI would not call Microsoft anything other than MicrosoftMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRbecause they spent a fortune demonising people who do thatMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRbecause they spent a fortune demonising people who do thatMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRalso, Epstein is a very loaded topicMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRalso, Epstein is a very loaded topicMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRone could call it "the company founded by Jeffrey Epstein's close buddy" (or "enabler")May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRone could call it "the company founded by Jeffrey Epstein's close buddy" (or "enabler")May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRbut it would be off-putting to some audienceMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRbut it would be off-putting to some audienceMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRthe "qanon" straw man helps portray any mention of high-profile pedophiles as May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRthe "qanon" straw man helps portray any mention of high-profile pedophiles as May 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRcrackeryMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TRcrackeryMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR*crankeryMay 11 12:54
schestowitz-TR*crankeryMay 11 12:54
Techrights-secyes the reputation management campaigns have made some movement in associatingMay 11 12:55
Techrights-secyes the reputation management campaigns have made some movement in associatingMay 11 12:55
Techrights-sec*any* criticism of bill as being unfounded and derived from cranksMay 11 12:55
Techrights-sec*any* criticism of bill as being unfounded and derived from cranksMay 11 12:55
schestowitz-TRdon't worry, that won't succeedMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRdon't worry, that won't succeedMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRand it serves to remind people of the scandal he wishes people stopped talking aboutMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRand it serves to remind people of the scandal he wishes people stopped talking aboutMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRworse than a scandalMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRworse than a scandalMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRthere should be an indictment, IMHOMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRthere should be an indictment, IMHOMay 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR(maybe there is one, nbut sealed and with many strings pulled to stop it... like the FL prosecutor...May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TR(maybe there is one, nbut sealed and with many strings pulled to stop it... like the FL prosecutor...May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRCosta? Acosta?)May 11 12:56
schestowitz-TRCosta? Acosta?)May 11 12:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/11/18134325/jeffrey-epstein-miami-herald-alex-acosta-trumpMay 11 12:57
Techrights-sechttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/11/18134325/jeffrey-epstein-miami-herald-alex-acosta-trumpMay 11 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jeffrey Epstein case: Senate wants answers on Alex Acosta’s role - VoxMay 11 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jeffrey Epstein case: Senate wants answers on Alex Acosta’s role - VoxMay 11 12:57
Techrights-sechttps://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/jeffrey-epstein-unanswered-questions.htmlMay 11 12:57
Techrights-sechttps://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/jeffrey-epstein-unanswered-questions.htmlMay 11 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nymag.com | Jeffrey Epstein: 24 Unanswered QuestionsMay 11 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nymag.com | Jeffrey Epstein: 24 Unanswered QuestionsMay 11 12:57
schestowitz-TRlave it to BillPR (NPR) to paint the criminical as the victimMay 11 13:04
schestowitz-TRlave it to BillPR (NPR) to paint the criminical as the victimMay 11 13:04
schestowitz-TR"oh boy! I have COVID.... how much money did I make on this darn thing??"May 11 13:04
schestowitz-TR"oh boy! I have COVID.... how much money did I make on this darn thing??"May 11 13:04
Techrights-secyepMay 11 13:04
Techrights-secyepMay 11 13:04
Techrights-seche was the one that cause the promise of royalty-free vaccines to be brokenMay 11 13:04
Techrights-seche was the one that cause the promise of royalty-free vaccines to be brokenMay 11 13:04
schestowitz-TRand for me pointing that out I got banned from twitter for 3 months May 11 13:05
schestowitz-TRand for me pointing that out I got banned from twitter for 3 months May 11 13:05
schestowitz-TR(could be forever... all tweets became not visible, unlike now)May 11 13:05
schestowitz-TR(could be forever... all tweets became not visible, unlike now)May 11 13:05
Techrights-secyepMay 11 13:05
Techrights-secyepMay 11 13:05
schestowitz-TRmaybe we should make a new name for TwitterMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRmaybe we should make a new name for TwitterMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRThere's social control mediaMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRThere's social control mediaMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRand Twitter is the criminal network of social control nework May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRand Twitter is the criminal network of social control nework May 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRMussKSAMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRMussKSAMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRto remind people what the owners think of free speechMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRto remind people what the owners think of free speechMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRchopping down journalistsMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRchopping down journalistsMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRsoon with realDonaldTrumpMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRsoon with realDonaldTrumpMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRcalling for attacks on the governmentMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRcalling for attacks on the governmentMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secthere's a lot of crossover between crime and politics, so trying to make May 11 13:07
Techrights-seca distinction might not be so usefulMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secthere's a lot of crossover between crime and politics, so trying to make May 11 13:07
Techrights-seca distinction might not be so usefulMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secyes, the behavior was clearly illegal and breaking the highest laws of the landMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secyes, the behavior was clearly illegal and breaking the highest laws of the landMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secyet nothing happened, either online or in the courtsMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secin response to the crimesMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secyet nothing happened, either online or in the courtsMay 11 13:07
Techrights-secin response to the crimesMay 11 13:07
schestowitz-TRin countries which fail to prosecute criminal there are terms for thatMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRin countries which fail to prosecute criminal there are terms for thatMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRformal names like "rogue nation"May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRformal names like "rogue nation"May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRbush names like "axis of evil"May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRbush names like "axis of evil"May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRor trump with "shithole countries"May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRor trump with "shithole countries"May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRI'm glad I don't live there. my sister regrete moving there, almost as soon as she had moved she felt that..May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRI'm glad I don't live there. my sister regrete moving there, almost as soon as she had moved she felt that..May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRand time did not change her mindMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRand time did not change her mindMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRshe lives in "film" version of USAMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRshe lives in "film" version of USAMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRnot what's down on the groundMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRnot what's down on the groundMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRUSA spends a lot more in marketing than most other industries except maybe weaponsMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRUSA spends a lot more in marketing than most other industries except maybe weaponsMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR(mostly because the arms are sold for like 10-100 times their production cost... graft_May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR(mostly because the arms are sold for like 10-100 times their production cost... graft_May 11 13:10
Techrights-secit was getting bad in the 1990s.  I cannot imaging how whacko it has gotten sinceMay 11 13:10
Techrights-secit was getting bad in the 1990s.  I cannot imaging how whacko it has gotten sinceMay 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR)May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TR)May 11 13:10
schestowitz-TRa friend who travels a lot would have me assume life in china is no worse than in usaMay 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRa friend who travels a lot would have me assume life in china is no worse than in usaMay 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRbut you know... marketing (or "social media" campaigns)May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRbut you know... marketing (or "social media" campaigns)May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRjapan... "aging population"May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRjapan... "aging population"May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRmisnomer for tackling overpopulationMay 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRmisnomer for tackling overpopulationMay 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRas if nobody in the world would wish to work in japan and look after enderly peopleMay 11 13:13
schestowitz-TRas if nobody in the world would wish to work in japan and look after enderly peopleMay 11 13:13
Techrights-secackMay 11 13:13
Techrights-secthere has been a sea change in values and attitude there, and much for the worseMay 11 13:13
Techrights-secackMay 11 13:13
Techrights-secthere has been a sea change in values and attitude there, and much for the worseMay 11 13:13
Techrights-sec40 years ago the situation would have been unimaginable and scoffed at ifMay 11 13:13
Techrights-secdescribed; May 11 13:13
Techrights-sec40 years ago the situation would have been unimaginable and scoffed at ifMay 11 13:13
Techrights-secdescribed; May 11 13:13
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "WIPO has finally responded to the Debian vendetta, informing the overpaid lawyers at Charles Fussell (parody site) that their claim didn't even reach first base." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164485#comment-33615May 11 13:22
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "WIPO has finally responded to the Debian vendetta, informing the overpaid lawyers at Charles Fussell (parody site) that their claim didn't even reach first base." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164485#comment-33615May 11 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Community News: Jonathan Cohen, Charles Fussell & Debian embezzlement | Tux MachinesMay 11 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Community News: Jonathan Cohen, Charles Fussell & Debian embezzlement | Tux MachinesMay 11 13:22
Techrights-secPH is now in worse trouble than it already had been and he only makes it worseMay 11 13:23
Techrights-secPH is now in worse trouble than it already had been and he only makes it worseMay 11 13:23
Techrights-secFrom what I read social control media had more than a small role in the May 11 13:23
Techrights-secsituationMay 11 13:23
Techrights-secFrom what I read social control media had more than a small role in the May 11 13:23
Techrights-secsituationMay 11 13:23
schestowitz-TRFrom Truman to TrumpmanMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRFrom Truman to TrumpmanMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRsame level of intellectMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRsame level of intellectMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRor, a reflection oof nationmal IQ levelMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRor, a reflection oof nationmal IQ levelMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRapropos, ph is electing Ferdinand (jr.) Marcos BACKMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRapropos, ph is electing Ferdinand (jr.) Marcos BACKMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRI LOL so hardMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRI LOL so hardMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRyearning for the good days... of a mythical version of a dictatorMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRyearning for the good days... of a mythical version of a dictatorMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRyes, social conytrol media is lie amplifierMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRyes, social conytrol media is lie amplifierMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRso it favours liars like TrumpMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRso it favours liars like TrumpMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRand even PutinMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRand even PutinMay 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRbut with Putin Twitter seems to have kicked off some "special treatment"May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRbut with Putin Twitter seems to have kicked off some "special treatment"May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRthey will soon unleash back a Russian candiate for 2024May 11 13:25
schestowitz-TRthey will soon unleash back a Russian candiate for 2024May 11 13:25
Techrights-secInteresting.  Sad that Debian project has been infiltrated to the extent thatMay 11 13:26
Techrights-secInteresting.  Sad that Debian project has been infiltrated to the extent thatMay 11 13:26
Techrights-secthey play that game now.  It was clearly in trouble when they acquiesced       May 11 13:26
Techrights-secthey play that game now.  It was clearly in trouble when they acquiesced       May 11 13:26
Techrights-secregarding 1 single person's call for systemd.  It wasn't even 4th choice IIRCMay 11 13:26
Techrights-secregarding 1 single person's call for systemd.  It wasn't even 4th choice IIRCMay 11 13:26
Techrights-secThat candidate would be the same one as beforeMay 11 13:26
Techrights-secThat candidate would be the same one as beforeMay 11 13:26
Techrights-sec" There are no social media links here. Enjoy a friendly Citadel community instead. Or go outside. "May 11 13:32
Techrights-sec" There are no social media links here. Enjoy a friendly Citadel community instead. Or go outside. "May 11 13:32
Techrights-sechttps://www.citadel.org/support.htmlMay 11 13:32
Techrights-sechttps://www.citadel.org/support.htmlMay 11 13:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-citadel.orgMay 11 13:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-citadel.orgMay 11 13:32
schestowitz-TR"for everything else, there's masterslave"May 11 13:32
schestowitz-TR"for everything else, there's masterslave"May 11 13:32
schestowitz-TRa decade ago lunduke throw "antisemite" bombs at fabsh from linux outlawsMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRa decade ago lunduke throw "antisemite" bombs at fabsh from linux outlawsMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRnow he does to a former employer, suseMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRnow he does to a former employer, suseMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRget popcornMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRget popcornMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRmaybe it'll become just as risky to hire people with religious beliefs May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRmaybe it'll become just as risky to hire people with religious beliefs May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRas it is to hire feminists, trans etc.May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRas it is to hire feminists, trans etc.May 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRyou don't know how that's going to end upMay 11 13:58
schestowitz-TRyou don't know how that's going to end upMay 11 13:58
Techrights-secackMay 11 13:58
Techrights-secackMay 11 13:58
Techrights-secOne place I was working for and some not so bright managers that felt corneredMay 11 14:02
Techrights-secOne place I was working for and some not so bright managers that felt corneredMay 11 14:02
Techrights-secbecause of one job candidate.  The candidate had gag orders on the previousMay 11 14:02
Techrights-secbecause of one job candidate.  The candidate had gag orders on the previousMay 11 14:02
Techrights-secthree employers which was discovered when the committee called around. May 11 14:02
Techrights-secthree employers which was discovered when the committee called around. May 11 14:02
Techrights-secThe candidate then threatened to sue if she was not hired.  I don't knowMay 11 14:02
Techrights-secThe candidate then threatened to sue if she was not hired.  I don't knowMay 11 14:02
Techrights-sechow that one turned out as I was leaving at the time.  May 11 14:02
Techrights-sechow that one turned out as I was leaving at the time.  May 11 14:02
schestowitz-TRThere must be a lot more to the story as it makes little sense on the surfaceMay 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRThere must be a lot more to the story as it makes little sense on the surfaceMay 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRI was in this situation 3 days ago, so I spoke to Rianne's dad May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRI was in this situation 3 days ago, so I spoke to Rianne's dad May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRand he clarified what was going on, given the right questions May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRand he clarified what was going on, given the right questions May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRbeing asked (regarding a relative)May 11 14:03
schestowitz-TRbeing asked (regarding a relative)May 11 14:03
Techrights-secYes it is curious that he is compelled to bring up the subject now, afterMay 11 14:05
Techrights-secYes it is curious that he is compelled to bring up the subject now, afterMay 11 14:05
Techrights-secso many years have gone by.May 11 14:05
Techrights-sec:)May 11 14:05
Techrights-secso many years have gone by.May 11 14:05
Techrights-sec:)May 11 14:05
schestowitz-TR(nb: being a thorn on the side of aggressive lawyers who could not possibly do May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR(nb: being a thorn on the side of aggressive lawyers who could not possibly do May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRanything to you, with any legal basis, is a bonus in activism ;-) )May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRanything to you, with any legal basis, is a bonus in activism ;-) )May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRas I said, he did the same to fabshMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRas I said, he did the same to fabshMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRfabsh was livid aMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRfabsh was livid aMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRand he threatened to take action against me for merely mentioning what Lunduke publishedMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRand then deleted, maybe under a day laterMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRand he threatened to take action against me for merely mentioning what Lunduke publishedMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRand then deleted, maybe under a day laterMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRso lunduke might be one of those people with inner fear of germansMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TRso lunduke might be one of those people with inner fear of germansMay 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR(I cannot totally blame him, in irc we have at least 2 people like that)May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR(I cannot totally blame him, in irc we have at least 2 people like that)May 11 14:07
schestowitz-TR0/May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TR0/May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRat some stage I shall do a second video about Debian TM actionMay 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRat some stage I shall do a second video about Debian TM actionMay 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRbut quite likely when the action ends May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRbut quite likely when the action ends May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRin the meantime I use tuxmachines to amass the material May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRin the meantime I use tuxmachines to amass the material May 11 14:09
schestowitz-TRaterial May 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRaterial May 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRbottom line is, lunduke adnd libreboot dev are people you should be super-careful inm hiringMay 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRbottom line is, lunduke adnd libreboot dev are people you should be super-careful inm hiringMay 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRbecause you never know how that might end upMay 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRbecause you never know how that might end upMay 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRthey openly signal this lack of loyalty  and I could give other example of very erratic people (Lunduke = ex -MSFT)May 11 14:12
schestowitz-TRthey openly signal this lack of loyalty  and I could give other example of very erratic people (Lunduke = ex -MSFT)May 11 14:12
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schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.nocturn9x.space/zoobab/status/1524392704553148417#mMay 11 16:04
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.nocturn9x.space/zoobab/status/1524392704553148417#mMay 11 16:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.nocturn9x.space | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): ""International Blackmail Machine (IBM) is still lobbying for software patents and is still weaponising software patents, even in courts; what does that mean for a company like RedHat, which kept assuring us that there’s no need to worry about its patents?" http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/big-blue-bully/" | Nocturn9x - NitterMay 11 16:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.nocturn9x.space | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): ""International Blackmail Machine (IBM) is still lobbying for software patents and is still weaponising software patents, even in courts; what does that mean for a company like RedHat, which kept assuring us that there’s no need to worry about its patents?" http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/big-blue-bully/" | Nocturn9x - NitterMay 11 16:04
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Techrights-secyes, lunduke is known to fall into recidivism from time to time, despiteMay 11 17:48
Techrights-secformally having left M$ long ago   May 11 17:48
Techrights-secyes, lunduke is known to fall into recidivism from time to time, despiteMay 11 17:48
Techrights-secformally having left M$ long ago   May 11 17:48
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/May 11 18:20
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/May 11 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | TechrightsMay 11 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | TechrightsMay 11 18:20
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33623May 11 19:18
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33623May 11 19:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 11 19:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 11 19:18
schestowitz-TRworth doing a video on this topic (again)?May 11 19:18
schestowitz-TRworth doing a video on this topic (again)?May 11 19:18
Techrights-secI think so.  Especially in light of the staff lineup.  May 11 19:18
Techrights-secI think so.  Especially in light of the staff lineup.  May 11 19:18
schestowitz-TRI know about the IPO talk (liquidation), but did they hire more from Microsoft?May 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRI know about the IPO talk (liquidation), but did they hire more from Microsoft?May 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRThis author is new to me, I did not check his background, he keeps shilling WindowsMay 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRThis author is new to me, I did not check his background, he keeps shilling WindowsMay 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRafter Barnes left the companyMay 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRafter Barnes left the companyMay 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRand the lady with Roy in her name I've not seen in ages, eitherMay 11 19:19
schestowitz-TRand the lady with Roy in her name I've not seen in ages, eitherMay 11 19:19
schestowitz-TR"Product Manager"May 11 19:21
schestowitz-TR"Product Manager"May 11 19:21
schestowitz-TRHis first post Oct 19 2021May 11 19:21
schestowitz-TRHis first post Oct 19 2021May 11 19:21
schestowitz-TRhis name is so generic I'd not find it easy to locate past employmentMay 11 19:22
schestowitz-TROliver SmithMay 11 19:22
schestowitz-TRwith a "twiust"May 11 19:22
schestowitz-TRhis name is so generic I'd not find it easy to locate past employmentMay 11 19:22
schestowitz-TROliver SmithMay 11 19:22
schestowitz-TRwith a "twiust"May 11 19:22
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