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*starstreak is munching on jalepeno dry roasted cricketsNov 11 00:16
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TechrightssecI hope SN pulls through.  It is about the last site left where comments areNov 11 04:03
Techrightssecpossible.  ncommander seems willing to try to either right it or archive itNov 11 04:03
Techrightssecby the 10th anniversary.  Nov 11 04:03
schestowitz-TRthey will last longer than twitter, based on news reportsNov 11 04:06
TechrightssecThe sooner Twitter is removed, the better. Nov 11 04:07
TechrightssecCorporate disinformation and propaganda engines like Reddit are another matterNov 11 04:07
TechrightssecThat one is a lot cheaper to operate, or so it looks.  Nov 11 04:07
schestowitz-TRregarding corona, I still 'monitor' what happens hereNov 11 04:09
schestowitz-TRwe thought about spendign this weekend trekking, but weather is not cooperativeNov 11 04:09
schestowitz-TRcontact with other people can lead to infectionNov 11 04:09
schestowitz-TRit is 4am here and 15 degreesNov 11 04:13
schestowitz-TRi still have many unknowns, so cannot change some workflows indefinitelyNov 11 04:13
schestowitz-TRyesterday I did FOUR rounds of Daily LinksNov 11 04:13
schestowitz-TRatm there is some time overhead associated with adjustingNov 11 04:13
schestowitz-TRwhen that clears, I should have lots of more time Nov 11 04:13
schestowitz-TRi am reluctant to even link to LINUXHINT anymoreNov 11 04:15
schestowitz-TRseeing some of the trash they're filling the site withNov 11 04:15
schestowitz-TRtoday: windows, discord, git ASSUMING YOU USE WINDOWS (!), JS ... maybe time to delete my feed soonNov 11 04:18
schestowitz-TRI also suspect they're adopted plagiarism artistsNov 11 04:18
schestowitz-TRwho hide that but use quotes to sort of pretend, we're quotingNov 11 04:18
schestowitz-TRmaybe the site got sold to pakistanNov 11 04:18
TechrightssecThere are self-styled OSS specialists promoting their activity via "Slack"Nov 11 04:18
Techrightssec-- not Slackware, but the proprietary IRC competitorNov 11 04:18
schestowitz-TRI know a company that does that ^_^Nov 11 04:19
schestowitz-TRreading feedsNov 11 04:23
schestowitz-TRa) more an MOAR webspam Nov 11 04:23
schestowitz-TRb) we can copeNov 11 04:23
schestowitz-TR3) Daily Links has enough, but granularity changedNov 11 04:23
schestowitz-TRd) need to get more people OFF the WebNov 11 04:23
schestowitz-TRmumble, irc, gemini etc.Nov 11 04:23
Techrightssec:/Nov 11 04:23
TechrightssecI think the work flow for the links can be moved to tr-new soon.  ThereNov 11 04:23
Techrightssecare some details to work out with Git, but now that the TR Git repositoryNov 11 04:23
Techrightssecis now in place, that is a step closer to realization.Nov 11 04:23
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TechrightssecThe web in and of itself is fine, that is until HTTP/3 kicks in.  Nov 11 04:29
TechrightssecThen it's as good a dead in regards to any characteristics it might have sharedNov 11 04:29
Techrightssecwith its original goals and vision.  However, the web as a vehicle for Nov 11 04:29
Techrightssecdelivering proprietary javascript browser-based "apps" is better off dead.Nov 11 04:29
schestowitz-TRi have a 'stupid' questionNov 11 04:29
schestowitz-TRgiven what happened to FB and still happened to TwitterNov 11 04:29
schestowitz-TRand given how awful youtube has become in pursuit of %Nov 11 04:30
schestowitz-TRand given that this strategy still reportedly resulted ina  DECLINE ($)Nov 11 04:30
schestowitz-TRis youtube next to jump the shark?Nov 11 04:30
schestowitz-TRno youtube -> no invidious Nov 11 04:30
TechrightssecYoutube has already jumped the shark but as to whether it declines financiallyNov 11 04:30
Techrightssecenough to see major cuts is another matter.  Nov 11 04:30
Techrightssechttps://grammarist.com/idiom/jump-the-shark/Nov 11 04:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-grammarist.com | Jump the shark Idiom DefinitionNov 11 04:30
TechrightssecI'm loath to say it but invidious was a stupid idea anyway, it's only a frontNov 11 04:31
TechrightssecendNov 11 04:31
schestowitz-TRit helps against ads mostlyNov 11 04:32
schestowitz-TRbut also has other advantagesNov 11 04:32
schestowitz-TRthe hard part is hosting large files and then delivering them to millionsNov 11 04:32
schestowitz-TRi reckon the business model there is the censorshipNov 11 04:32
schestowitz-TRor rather, mind controlNov 11 04:32
Techrightssechttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JumpingTheSharkNov 11 04:33
TechrightssecThe ads, as originally done, were simply the cost of using a "free" service.Nov 11 04:33
TechrightssecNow they are invasive, obnoxious, and longer than the actual video content.Nov 11 04:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tvtropes.org | Jumping the Shark - TV TropesNov 11 04:33
schestowitz-TRyes, youtube became thatNov 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRthey need to show potential to profit, too Nov 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRBailout Biden might not find more coins between the sofa cushionNov 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRfor the so-called psy-opsNov 11 04:34
TechrightssecI'm not sure if FOSS conferences have abandoned youtube or if they have Nov 11 04:35
Techrightssecabandoned posting videos.  I'm hoping for a third option: self-hosting likeNov 11 04:35
TechrightssecCCC has done.  But there will be no CCC this year either.Nov 11 04:35
TechrightssecYes, youtube is certainly manipulative.  Nov 11 04:35
schestowitz-TRif you want to secure access to some video, then download itNov 11 04:36
schestowitz-TRVHS VCRs with record button were not a crimewNov 11 04:36
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schestowitz-TRmotta: survival of the fittest (darwin iirc)Nov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRintel/grove: survival of the paranoidNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRtech: survival of the agileNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRyoutube and twitter are too heavy and far too messy to operateNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRnot sure about soylent news, but it seems like they over-engineered itNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRstaying on olkd wordpress LTS was wiseNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRbut it's time to moveNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRyoutube may never become financially sustainableNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRand to keep "agile" it might looks for excuses to ban "useless" channelsNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRlike those that promote FSNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRand have many minutes of video (storage)  Nov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRplus bandwidth costs that are hard to "monetise" due to 'uncooperate' (to ads) audienceNov 11 04:45
schestowitz-TRand no political gain (brownie points) either3~Nov 11 04:45
TechrightssecSN is using the old /. infrastructure which was ambitious and aimed for Nov 11 04:56
Techrightsseca larger scale than what is needed anymore.  Harware and networks handleNov 11 04:56
Techrightssecmuch more work and there are fewer visitors anyway.  So what they haveNov 11 04:56
Techrightssecis kind of overkill.  Nov 11 04:56
schestowitz-TRi thought it was a lookalike, not same or similar codeNov 11 04:57
schestowitz-TRanyway, wordpress is becoming overkill for 99% of sites that use wordpressNov 11 04:57
Techrightssec /. was one of the largest sites 20 years agoNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecin terms of visitors, posts, and traffic.  Most importantly, and the reasonNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecit drew the ire of the powers that be, was that it reflected the zeitgeistNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecof the era and focused on FOSS and Open Standards and hated with a burning Nov 11 05:05
Techrightssecpassion all things M$Nov 11 05:05
TechrightssecTeam99 was active there but was, for a while mitigated, that's where theNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecabbreviation "M$" came from AFAIK.  M$ had a search engine continually scrapingNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecforums and /. in particular for the string "microsoft" case-insensitive.  Nov 11 05:05
TechrightssecIn the seconds after a thread acquired the string "microsoft", it wouldNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecbe burried in hostile and off-topic comments usually about perversions andNov 11 05:05
Techrightssecunnacceptable practices.  Nov 11 05:05
Techrightssechttps://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-building-a-team-99/Nov 11 05:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.neowin.net | Microsoft Building a 'Team 99' - NeowinNov 11 05:05
schestowitz-TRi have just started one cpu-intensive task again, on my main machineNov 11 05:08
schestowitz-TRseeing it has not had stroage issues for a whileNov 11 05:08
schestowitz-TRundecided on next course of action, but for now it seems 'back to normal'Nov 11 05:08
schestowitz-TRcleaned my rss feeds just nowNov 11 05:08
schestowitz-TRdid not net many important storiesNov 11 05:08
schestowitz-TRto put it mildlyNov 11 05:09
schestowitz-TRbut some clusters of linksNov 11 05:09
TechrightssecackNov 11 05:11
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schestowitz-TRgoing a post about our 16th bday...Nov 11 05:37
schestowitz-TRdraftNov 11 05:37
TechrightssecackNov 11 05:37
schestowitz-TRre SNNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRI saw they use patreonNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRiirc, it was patereon that fired ALL sec stafNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRand is likely laying off all across the boardNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRI wonder if, Nov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRlike in social control mediaNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRherding all supporters in that one platformNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRmakes one too financially dependentNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRlike with a salaryNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRon the existence and health of that platformNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRdid they plan for a siatuino of ban or platform shutdown (patreon)?Nov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRnot yet thinking of 'crowdfunding' TRNov 11 05:41
schestowitz-TRas we are not brokeNov 11 05:42
schestowitz-TRbut it's always "in the cards"Nov 11 05:42
schestowitz-TRfrom what I saw, if people start funding, then they throw a fit when some Nov 11 05:42
schestowitz-TRarticle isn't making them happyNov 11 05:42
schestowitz-TRand then use a threat of discontinuing to induce (self)censorshipNov 11 05:42
Techrightssecthen a disclaimer needs to be visible up front   Nov 11 05:42
schestowitz-TRright, good pointNov 11 05:43
schestowitz-TRanyway, health is ok, financially we're okNov 11 05:43
schestowitz-TRTR will be fineNov 11 05:43
schestowitz-TRand this is what I've wanted to do since 2006 anywayNov 11 05:43
Techrightssec           Nov 11 05:43
Techrightssec"as-is"Nov 11 05:43
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TechrightssecThe various news sites seem to be largely blaming the Mediabank breachNov 11 08:09
Techrightssecon either a) not paying the ransom, or b) the ransomware gang itself,Nov 11 08:09
Techrightssecinstead of where the blame really lies: M$ and those that brought M$ productNov 11 08:09
Techrightssecinto the working environment.Nov 11 08:09
Techrightssec^ topic ?Nov 11 08:09
schestowitz-TRthsnks, got 3 topic nowNov 11 08:10
schestowitz-TRwe might go to town later today/tonightNov 11 08:10
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schestowitz-TRgymNov 11 09:17
schestowitz-TR2 daily links batches at 9am ;-)Nov 11 09:17
schestowitz-TRi like itNov 11 09:17
TechrightssecackNov 11 09:17
Techrightssec2022-11-11 11:11Nov 11 11:11
TechrightssecThere are some echo settings she might be able to do on her end.Nov 11 11:34
TechrightssecConfigure -> Settingd -> Audio Input -> Interface -> Echo CancellationNov 11 11:34
Techrightssecafaik it is off by default and there are two other options which could be testedNov 11 11:34
schestowitz-TRwe even did the silence thingNov 11 11:34
schestowitz-TRi think we now have (had) 6 people in mumbleNov 11 11:34
schestowitz-TRshould have done that years agoNov 11 11:35
schestowitz-TRthe echo is bad because rianne does not use a headsetNov 11 11:35
schestowitz-TRthanks, having another go at it nowNov 11 11:35
schestowitz-TRdid mine last night againNov 11 11:35
schestowitz-TRthe echo is always worse from some users who are on mumla on androidNov 11 11:48
schestowitz-TRbut  not allNov 11 11:48
schestowitz-TRand I am not sure what the culprit isNov 11 11:48
schestowitz-TRmaybe some of them use speaker modeNov 11 11:48
Techrightssecno idea about androidNov 11 12:06
schestowitz-TRif social control media take a tumbleNov 11 12:08
schestowitz-TRthan the addition associate with it via "phones"Nov 11 12:08
schestowitz-TR*addicitonNov 11 12:08
schestowitz-TRmay diminishNov 11 12:09
TechrightssecackNov 11 12:09
schestowitz-TRand maybe there can be a rebound for real computingNov 11 12:09
schestowitz-TRnot those palm-size skinner UIsNov 11 12:09
schestowitz-TRthe "like" interaction was made for pal-sized and keyboardless thingsNov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TRso the devices impacted the UIsNov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TRnot the other way aroundNov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TRto the point many programs became worseNov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TRincluding banking UIsNov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TRequipping the users with worse devices for improved screen time (always in the pocket, making many noises)Nov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TRrather than increased productivityNov 11 12:10
Techrightssecs/improved/increased/Nov 11 12:10
schestowitz-TR(from advertisers' POV or state propAGANDA, A subset of the PR industry)Nov 11 12:11
schestowitz-TRmumble us hard when trying to balance the volumes between several people with different software,Nov 11 12:38
schestowitz-TRdifferent devices, and different modes, all in the same roomNov 11 12:38
schestowitz-TRone person's bad settings impacts everyone present, unless one goes deaf/muteNov 11 12:38
schestowitz-TRbut this is an inherent issue for that kind of applicationNov 11 12:38
schestowitz-TRwith proprietary craps in "Apps" and "Browser" there is only one "approved" clientNov 11 12:38
schestowitz-TRwith very limited OS or browser supportNov 11 12:38
schestowitz-TRgoing to record in a bitNov 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRwe have put our most of the xmas decor by nowNov 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRinc. at the office, entrance, bedroomsNov 11 12:39
schestowitz-TRrianne is crazy about that stuff, even it's mostly for kidsNov 11 12:39
schestowitz-TROTANov 11 13:31
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schestowitz-TRdraftNov 11 15:34
schestowitz-TRepo quiet, so I recorded just 3 videosNov 11 15:34
schestowitz-TRdraft for ms+russiaNov 11 15:34
TechrightsseccheckingNov 11 15:38
TechrightsseccheckingNov 11 15:38
TechrightssecemptyNov 11 15:38
Techrightssecs/face-checking/fact-checking/Nov 11 15:38
Techrightssec"attribution" is intentionally difficult in such situationsNov 11 15:38
schestowitzhttps://wikileaks.org/vault7/ https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/Nov 11 15:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 502 @ https://wikileaks.org/vault7/ )Nov 11 15:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 502 @ https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ )Nov 11 15:43
schestowitzgo to "Mable Framework"Nov 11 15:43
schestowitz-TR*MarbleNov 11 15:44
TechrightssecackNov 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRdoneNov 11 15:48
schestowitz-TRI did not do any preparation for the videoNov 11 15:56
schestowitz-TRbut I think it got covered in itNov 11 15:56
schestowitz-TRmy arguments can improve a bit over timeNov 11 15:56
schestowitz-TRthe idea is to get people to argue similarly and push back against BS 'articles'Nov 11 15:57
schestowitz-TRis it ok for TR to have a consistent policy of,Nov 11 16:27
schestowitz-TRlet's quit all social control media? or do you veto?Nov 11 16:27
TechrightssecI'm not sure I have a veto but either way I would agree with the push toNov 11 16:28
Techrightssecquit all social control media.Nov 11 16:28
schestowitz-TRsoon 72 hours since last PC crashNov 11 17:14
schestowitz-TRnow got 6-7 people 'enrolled' into mumbleNov 11 17:14
schestowitz-TRquite a  few client downloadsNov 11 17:15
TechrightssecackNov 11 18:03
schestowitz-TR"Why LBRY was never going to win, and how they have just screwed all crypto." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-9030Nov 11 18:03
TechrightssecckNov 11 18:19
TechrightssecackNov 11 18:19
TechrightssecThat's a feed not a web page.Nov 11 18:19
schestowitz-TRyes, their web page does not yet have that listedNov 11 18:19
schestowitz-TRonly the feedNov 11 18:19
schestowitz"Other hospitals also are experiencing high levels of RSV cases, but the pediatric intensive care unit occupancy rate in Michigan has dipped. Statewide data indicates an 86% pediatric ICU occupancy as of Thursday, down from 89% last Friday."Nov 11 18:22
schestowitzCOVID mentioned alsoNov 11 18:22
schestowitzfor-profit hospitals and insurance companiesNov 11 18:23
Techrightssechttps://scheerpost.com/2022/11/08/eat-me/Nov 11 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EAT ME - scheerpost.comNov 11 18:23
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Techrightssecfor-profit means that they already run at capacity without any pandemic orNov 11 20:36
Techrightssecother outbreaksNov 11 20:36
Techrightssecinsurance means that the treatment will be based on how it affects profitabilityNov 11 20:36
Techrightssecregardless of whether it is suitable or functional, decided by MBAs not MDsNov 11 20:36
schestowitz-TRSir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, on Covid-19 Vaccines Safety https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/11/cardio-safety/Nov 11 21:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, on Covid-19 Vaccines SafetyNov 11 21:50
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