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| schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati-radeon-gpus-get-driver-optimizations-linux">Linux Community Updates 20 Year Old AMD GPU Driver</a></h5> | Dec 11 07:26 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Dec 11 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati-radeon-gpus-get-driver-optimizations-linux">Linux ) | Dec 11 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | <p>To demonstrate just how old these GPUs are, the R500 graphics cards, also named the X1000 series were launched in 2007 and were built on a huge 90nm process. The flagship card at the time, the ATI Radeon X1800 XT could only achieve 83 Gflops of performance (with a G). It's a far cry from today where the best graphics cards, like the RTX 3090, can achieve over 35 TFlops.</p></blockquote></li> | Dec 11 07:27 |
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| activelow | the old radeon cards power consumption was lower too | Dec 11 09:43 |
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| activelow | did some calculations: the rtx3090 got ~500x more processing power | Dec 11 10:10 |
| activelow | the die shrink from 90nm to 9nm equals a reduction in power consumption per silicon area 10^2; that's one hundred | Dec 11 10:11 |
| activelow | then, the RTX3090 requiers ~3x the amount of electricity, that's a total of ~300x | Dec 11 10:12 |
| activelow | alltogether, far less impressive, for the fact alone power consumption tripled | Dec 11 10:12 |
| activelow | if Nvidia could manufacture a GPU with 83GFLOPs requiring 500milliwatts total this had been far more impressive | Dec 11 10:13 |
| activelow | some faster ARM Mali graphics score ~20GFLOPs, and even this was sufficient with the opensource graphics drivers for Linux with nexuiz/darkplaces at FullHD@60Hz steady | Dec 11 10:19 |
| activelow | maybe that's another reason why Nvidia seeks to grab ARM, to perpetuate their trillion dollar GPU scam; to sell hardware which requires 500Watts instead of 5W total | Dec 11 10:20 |
| activelow | and the ARM Mali graphics i tested is rather old and outdated already, manufactured at 28nm | Dec 11 10:21 |
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| schestowitz | activelow: afaik, all of those companies make SUPER-proprietary stuff | Dec 11 11:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm not even sure how many options exist for that type of hardware that can be trusted | Dec 11 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Russia and India make their own | Dec 11 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Mali and ARM might be better, but now, but not for lonh | Dec 11 11:49 |
| schestowitz | *long | Dec 11 11:49 |
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| activelow | schestowitz: yep, ARM hardware is fully proprietary | Dec 11 11:55 |
| activelow | nonetheless, IBM Wintel PC and Nvidia are WORSE | Dec 11 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | just gopt an emvelopse ;-) | Dec 11 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | will put in quarantine for 2 days, as usual | Dec 11 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: arm? | Dec 11 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec | that was fast | Dec 11 13:03 |
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| activelow | schestowitz-TR: what's the question? | Dec 11 14:06 |
| activelow | anyway, Nvidia and most other GPUs are a bad choice, because these are special purpose hardware *only* | Dec 11 14:09 |
| activelow | these cannot be programmed for easily, no operating system can be deployed to them, and with a power budget of 300watts for the GPU only i could imagine 300 ARM cortex general purpose CPU cores instead (or any other power efficient RISC) | Dec 11 14:12 |
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| psydroid2 | I'm not sure discrete GPUs have a future outside of certain niches | Dec 11 15:01 |
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| Techrights-sec | congratulations and best of luck | Dec 11 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, microsofters do what they can to sabotage | Dec 11 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | moodle is (or at least was) very staright forward to set up | Dec 11 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | remember though that if they had windows they did not have a techology problem | Dec 11 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | as much as a staffing problem and those problem individuals, such as those | Dec 11 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | sabotaging, will have to be dealt with administratively | Dec 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning we shut off their "azure" | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more Windows, no more Microsoft | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | migration successful, less money for the thugs | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft seems to have used WAF as vendor lockin, but we found a way around that crap | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | systemd ;-) | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | joke | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning we shut off their "azure" | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more Windows, no more Microsoft | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | migration successful, less money for the thugs | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft seems to have used WAF as vendor lockin, but we found a way around that crap | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | systemd ;-) | Dec 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | joke | Dec 11 15:18 |
| Techrights-sec | some sources I read commented that azure costs close to 20 times the | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | competition's services; and less reliable too | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes the "cloud" serviecs from all vendors have varying degrees of lock-in | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | through bizarre, complcated control interfaces | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | systemd is part of the move to decommoditize GNU/Linux. Red Hat has made | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | t(now IBM) has made far more progress than M$ in that regard and the effects | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | are about as bad | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Debian, the core of most other distros, has basically been destroyed by the | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | infighting that it took to pound through adoption of systemd against all | Dec 11 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | reasonable technical expectations. | Dec 11 15:19 |
| activelow | Debian (*deb) and RedHat (*rpm) are tailored for consumer comfort and business | Dec 11 15:31 |
| activelow | in practice, the regular updates required are horror | Dec 11 15:32 |
| activelow | i want a system which can be administered, exposed to internet either providing or consuming services, and not requires any update in 10years | Dec 11 15:33 |
| activelow | *does not require | Dec 11 15:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: lots of energy wasted | Dec 11 17:03 |
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| psydroid2 | watching developments in the x86 world has been like watching a train accident happening right before your eyes | Dec 11 17:07 |
| psydroid2 | https://erik-engheim.medium.com/risc-v-used-because-its-free-e1f04140bc3d | Dec 11 17:08 |
| -altlink_e26/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: medium.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://erik-engheim.medium.com/risc-v-used-because-its-free-e1f04140bc3d | Dec 11 17:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-erik-engheim.medium.com | RISC-V Used Because It’s Free?. Is the RISC-V microprocessor… | by Erik Engheim | Nov, 2021 | Medium | Dec 11 17:08 | |
| psydroid2 | not everyone needs a power-hungry graphics card | Dec 11 17:08 |
| psydroid2 | and for what purpose would you "need" one? | Dec 11 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | exactly | Dec 11 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you say it in revers | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe by intention | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the field of dreams | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | build it, they will come | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | make 100 watt GPU | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | gazillion polygons rendered per secomd | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | then pay "game" developers to recycle boring old games | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and just throw more loads at them | Dec 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | with BTC/Bitccoin, throw lots of cpu cycles at trash | Dec 11 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "hey hi" | Dec 11 17:10 |
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| schestowitz-TR | (data-mining) | Dec 11 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | surveillance based on weak pretences, oversold to advertisers and such | Dec 11 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "crime prediction" | Dec 11 17:10 |
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| psydroid2 | the first thing is power-efficient ASICs could be used for specific use cases | Dec 11 17:12 |
| psydroid2 | and the second one is about the "need" for "games", as you just said | Dec 11 17:13 |
| psydroid2 | I frankly couldn't care less about those "games", that are just like ads for buying more power-hungry and more expensive graphics hardware | Dec 11 17:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | thhey are not fun | Dec 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | orgy of ploygon pools | Dec 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | gameplay takes effort | Dec 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead they expect the gamers to spend | Dec 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and compensate for map maps, assets etc. | Dec 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *bad maps | Dec 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for their "polygon" ocean | Dec 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of inefficiently-rendered stuff | Dec 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | occlusion etc. | Dec 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | in doom you could render a lot with very little | Dec 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | not it's the opposite | Dec 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | to just show some characters you need billions of transistors | Dec 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | even though the gab process improced a lot | Dec 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | likewise, the Web: | Dec 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | sites like online banks now need like x10 the hardware resources | Dec 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | to do the same thing you did in them like 20 years ago | Dec 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I picked up my bank's CD-ROM | Dec 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | quite the git diff ;-) | Dec 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and one whitespace fewer ;-) | Dec 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have 10 more parts on EPO, the one from last night was a short reminder | Dec 11 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | yes long but unimportant | Dec 11 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | great! | Dec 11 17:40 |
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| Techrights-sec | Just looking at it from this distance, it looks like the EPO could do much | Dec 11 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec | better by not pushing out junk patents, trimming management, and hiring more | Dec 11 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec | skilled/experienced examiners. | Dec 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | SUEPO wrote about this for years; it will be DIFFICULT for them to hire the RIGHT people now. It's a crisis. They get fresh grads, to EXAMINE monopolies. Knowledge of one language. | Dec 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | also see | Dec 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/stirling-and-pan-european-seal-programme/ | Dec 11 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | With EPO ‘Strike Regulations’ Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside ‘Temps’ or Casual Workers | Techrights | Dec 11 17:49 | |
| Techrights-sec | I see. The union was broken or at least weakened substantially | Dec 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | many have retired. Jose left months ago. he's the one who had fainted after IU treatment. | Dec 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | this is in Planet Debian right now https://linux.codehelp.co.uk/diversity-and-gender.html | Dec 11 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linux.codehelp.co.uk | Diversity and gender - linux.codehelp.co.uk | Dec 11 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | not connected to Free Software of Debian | Dec 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | seems like a way to divide the hackers | Dec 11 18:00 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/stirling-and-pan-european-seal-programme/ | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | WTF? | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | That's not code. | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | get them fighting each other so M$ does not lose ground so quickly as it would | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | otherwise | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | destroying debian takes out hundreds of derivative distros | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | some of the derivatives, like Ubuntu, were important enough for M$ to go out | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | of their way to infiltrate specifically | Dec 11 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | however no project is too small for them to attack | Dec 11 18:04 |
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| Techrights-sec | m$ attacks and tries to infiltrate any group it learns about | Dec 11 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | schools are more beholden to money than even magazines, so the long game | Dec 11 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | has been to crush and destroy comp sci and programming at university and college | Dec 11 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | levels | Dec 11 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, microsoftianism is a lifestyle choice | Dec 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still wonder if our client was putting a moodle site on wsl or something, for maybe 100,000 users... I wasn't close enough to lean the details from the "server and server engineer" ;-) | Dec 11 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | *learn | Dec 11 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but my colleague was LMAO | Dec 11 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and said they had no idea what they were doing | Dec 11 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they fought hard against running moodle on gnu/linux | Dec 11 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and outside azure ^_^ | Dec 11 18:14 |
| Techrights-sec | as mentioned earlier, the presence of M$ products is not a technical problem | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but a staffing problem; the performance of wsl and azure is not good, among | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | the many other problems they introduce. someone there is fighting against | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | technology and pushing M$ at all costs; if they are behaving like those at other | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | institutions they would probably rather see their employer go bankrupt than | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | let it leave M$ clutches. | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | In that case, while they might be on their employer's payroll, they are reallky | Dec 11 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | working for M$ against the enployer. | Dec 11 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | bingo. but we won the argument at the end. it's a big client. | Dec 11 18:18 |
| Techrights-sec | again congratulations and continued good luck | Dec 11 18:20 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm wondering if any companies ever have policies that those on the payroll | Dec 11 18:20 |
| Techrights-sec | must work for the company and not its competitors, like m$ | Dec 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | good point | Dec 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne know better than me because she read most of the correspondence, I have not | Dec 11 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can't be bothered fighting with microsofters | Dec 11 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not my "pay grade" :-) | Dec 11 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | *would know | Dec 11 18:22 |
| Techrights-sec | m$ sees other companies not just as competitors to squash but as opponents | Dec 11 18:23 |
| Techrights-sec | politically | Dec 11 18:23 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Dec 11 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft phoned to complain about me and Gates Foundation passed a "bribe" | Dec 11 18:23 |
| Techrights-sec | yes but under nda iirc | Dec 11 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, the "SECRET" 'charity' | Dec 11 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | with strings attached, implicit and explicit | Dec 11 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | on call, the first thing the boss did was, | Dec 11 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | he said, I know roy might not like tis | Dec 11 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | or something to that effect | Dec 11 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | he mentioned nobody else | Dec 11 18:25 |
| Techrights-sec | hmm. | Dec 11 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | another topic, would it be useful to make a Git repository for the daily links? | Dec 11 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | that would pave the way for several concurrent contributors, including a more | Dec 11 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | independent automated RSS harvester. | Dec 11 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought about it before, but it would not suit the current workflow at all | Dec 11 18:44 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Dec 11 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://nitter.eu/herrsmithson/status/1469709141342101504 | Dec 11 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Alex C. Smithson 🏴☠️ (@herrsmithson): "Già il padre finanziava il PATH. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Ideas/Media-Center/Press-Releases/1999/04/Program-for-Appropriate-Technology-in-Health-PATH#:~:text=SEATTLE%20--%20PATH%20%28Program%20for%20Appropriate%20Technology%20in,development%20of%20Ultra%20Rice%E2%84%A2%2C%20a%20fortified%20rice%20product. Gates fu anche "bannato" dall'India. https://rupe-india.org/57/gates. | Dec 11 21:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/csolisr/status/1469769931440988166 | Dec 11 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@csolisr: @schestowitz As somebody who has to use Windows for reasons: yeah | Dec 11 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/natynecc/status/1469708848344743936 | Dec 11 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@natynecc: @schestowitz I even Don't know what is Azure and wtf it's used? | Dec 11 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1469599308739747843 | Dec 11 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: don't fall for the #bluehydrogen con... https://t.co/wAGhYPUYdR | Dec 11 21:28 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #DeSmog ☞ Mapped: Europe’s #FossilFuel -Backed #Hydrogen Lobby https://t.co/jJ8A1kNXtf | Dec 11 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1469598941901733890 | Dec 11 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: hey hey, it's the monkees... https://t.co/2hp8WWyDah | Dec 11 21:29 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #nesmith https://t.co/c9yv8OPkx5 | Dec 11 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ssk85760565/status/1469594121274802176 | Dec 11 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ssk85760565: Here comes the next US-created disaster in Aftica. #Ethiopia https://t.co/zORWcwHRDB | Dec 11 21:29 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #MintPressNews ☞ “Every Option Is on the Table”: US Prepping for Libya-Style Intervention in #Ethiopia https://t.co/WOm3CsaVYH | Dec 11 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Z_ballss/status/1469590760836276225 | Dec 11 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Z_ballss: @schestowitz It means they’ll be in poverty… for a longer time now | Dec 11 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManuelRomer2/status/1469502849633636356 | Dec 11 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ManuelRomer2: @schestowitz https://t.co/QdBoOKyATX | Dec 11 21:29 | |
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