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| schestowitz-TR | just a reminder: server downtime should be expected shortly | Feb 12 04:01 |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Feb 12 05:00 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Feb 12 05:00 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 | Feb 12 05:00 | |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75 | Feb 12 05:00 |
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| Techrights-sec | excellent, the rate is picking up | Feb 12 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Is there a convenient API for Drupal which the FSF could use easly to | Feb 12 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | extract content and convert to Gemtext? | Feb 12 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC TuxMachines is Drupal. | Feb 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, was recording | Feb 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I thought about tuxmachines, but with almost 170k pages and not much original among them I would not consider gemini for it | Feb 12 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | those pages link to http | Feb 12 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I do not know of drupal-specific gemini tools and mind you, I watch these tools closely to see new things | Feb 12 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | re distro.tube at gemini | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | for half a year I've repeatedly tried to access it | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | hoping that DT would restore the service/capsule | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems he took too much | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | like distrotoot | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it now cutting down | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe gulagtube also deranks him | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not check | Feb 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I cite him as yewtu.be | Feb 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | of odysee when you send me the corresponding URLs | Feb 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | odysee is its OWN jar of worms | Feb 12 12:37 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Feb 12 12:43 |
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| schestowitz-TR | now running piclone ont he rasp400, usb to microsd | Feb 12 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | that backup will also contain all the gemini pages, even though the system accoun | Feb 12 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | t "gemini" was removed | Feb 12 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | so a bit of an insurance policy, given that rianne is not likely to | Feb 12 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | use up 32gb of storage anyway | Feb 12 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | odysee only works with an account because you have to spend a week or two | Feb 12 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | blocking cranks and whackdoodle accounts before you start to see anythig of | Feb 12 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | either use or interest in the UI | Feb 12 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | The experience with Drupal might help give tips to the FSF about how t | Feb 12 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | they can export to Gemtext. TM has nothing to gain from a Gemini presence, | Feb 12 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | from what I can see. But it has given familiarity with Drupal. | Feb 12 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have just tralled to the front page of odysee | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | ido not have an ccount there | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is not much distateful content | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | not judging by the front page | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | no worse than gulagtube | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in gulagtube you feel like they follow you around and profiule you | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | maube odysee does the same,but it feels generic | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the interface does not feel like a web page | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and videos are not video files per se | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that kind of suck | Feb 12 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | *sucks | Feb 12 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Feb 12 13:46 |
| Techrights-sec | As mentioned the majority needs to be culled using blocking heavily in order | Feb 12 13:46 |
| Techrights-sec | for it to be useful. | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have just attempted to play some videos | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | as in the past some would not even load | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know exactly how lbry works | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to me it misses the point that | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) people should self-host and | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2)KEEP IT SIMPLE | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | spinning off loated shit like mastodon will cause complication, like new PHP | Feb 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | versions and database going all w0nky | Feb 12 13:46 |
| Techrights-sec | It sucks, but it sucks slightly less than Youtube. :/ | Feb 12 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | If they do not have a business model and are riding someone's bank account, | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | as joindiaspora did, | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | tnen | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) they will turn evil | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) they will shut down | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you often need to assess whether they are sustinable | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I looked into them in 2020 it was LBRY | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | where is LBRY as a domain today? | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is far too volatile and new | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | LunK00k put lots of stuff there | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and shilled them to death | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | now EVEN HIS RANT ABOUT THEM is offline | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I spent ages trying to retreive it, | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but odysee is JS | Feb 12 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so gulag and IA has no copies | Feb 12 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | *had | Feb 12 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | only thing >I had left was poortions in TR Daily Links | Feb 12 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | So I was not anble to explin what wernt wrong there | Feb 12 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | ther reason itself vanished | Feb 12 13:51 |
| Techrights-sec | The business model is crytpocurrency. The videos are just a front. | Feb 12 14:03 |
| Techrights-sec | I figure option #2 sometime. | Feb 12 14:03 |
| Techrights-sec | Videos are ephemeral anyway. | Feb 12 14:03 |
| Techrights-sec | """ | Feb 12 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Usenet died for four reasons: | Feb 12 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | It got spammed to death. | Feb 12 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | It lost control over its culture, and that culture was crucial to its functio | Feb 12 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ning. | Feb 12 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | It was too problematic for ISPs (or others) to provide ready access to it: sp | Feb 12 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | am, harassment, child pornography, and copyright violations all posed massive con | Feb 12 14:13 |
| Techrights-sec | cerns. | Feb 12 14:13 |
| Techrights-sec | There was no viable business model for providing the service. | Feb 12 14:13 |
| Techrights-sec | """ | Feb 12 14:13 |
| Techrights-sec | Points 1 and 2 especially. | Feb 12 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 | Feb 12 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/049bdfc06cd7013a2d24448a5b29e257 | Feb 12 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/ | Feb 12 14:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt · master · Feneas / association · GitLab | Feb 12 14:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt · master · Feneas / association · GitLab | Feb 12 14:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | Feneas · GitLab | Feb 12 14:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-diaspora.glasswings.com | Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next... | Feb 12 14:13 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | I know you have not played around with piclone | Feb 12 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think they host only in shithub | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there are some bugs | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not something they give much love to | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it neeeds to run with a bunch of options | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if run from the CLI you see the rough edges | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the moment I run it over ssh with x-forwarding | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's GUI only | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I cannot run it in a screen session | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is progressing (rianne's machine) | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but may take another 3-5 hours | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | that includes all the oibjects that were in other accounts although I deleted | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the accounts and disabled all the syst5emd services that are not needed | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | bottom line: piclone can be powerful, and can be very simple to use | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but under the hood it's a bit crude | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I saw the source code last time | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | when trying to assess when the progress bar was not progressing for line 4 hours | Feb 12 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's pi is now backed up to microsd, labeled | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the gemini etc. server is now halfway through making a complerte snapshot | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | to usb, 32GB, as before... | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | atm I work on part 50 for tomorrow, epo | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | today and tomorrow I will asssess whether to delete some or all gulag noise feeds | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | , except maybe "linux" things because of tux machines | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's pi is now backed up to microsd, labeled | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the gemini etc. server is now halfway through making a complerte snapshot | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | to usb, 32GB, as before... | Feb 12 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | atm I work on part 50 for tomorrow, epo | Feb 12 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | today and tomorrow I will asssess whether to delete some or all gulag noise feeds | Feb 12 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | , except maybe "linux" things because of tux machines | Feb 12 18:17 |
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| schestowitz-TR | --- | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | i really love how the pis are working | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also love how easy they are to offload to a fingernail-sized thing | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder, | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | back on the ol' days we had sueme linux | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | we could, in principle, convert the nginx/gemini cambo into a .osi | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | one that lets people surf the site 'offline' | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | using gemini or http | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the logistics would not be hard | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *.iso | Feb 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | alternatively, a tool COULD be developed (I know of no wuch tool) | Feb 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | which converts a gemini basedir into a surfable thing like Xanadu | Feb 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make it downloadable as a compress archive for offline access or | Feb 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | fopr longterm preservation | Feb 12 18:36 |
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| Techrights-sec | it would be easy enough to have a tarball of any Gemini site. Gemtext is | Feb 12 21:52 |
| Techrights-sec | highly compressible, too. | Feb 12 21:52 |
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