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Techrights-secdeduplicated yesterday's HTML IRC logsMay 13 04:44
Techrights-secdoes irclog2html.py have UTF-8 problems?May 13 05:07
Techrights-sec^scratch that. looking elsewhereMay 13 05:07
Techrights-secfixedMay 13 05:07
schestowitz-TRgmMay 13 05:08
schestowitz-TRI may have overslept a bitMay 13 05:08
schestowitz-TRmild headacheMay 13 05:08
schestowitz-TRnot de to stressMay 13 05:08
schestowitz-TRthere was no stress at allMay 13 05:08
Techrights-secgmMay 13 05:08
Techrights-secnpMay 13 05:08
Techrights-secstress from yesterday? light workout usually helpsMay 13 05:08
Techrights-secgoodMay 13 05:08
schestowitz-TRtoday the plan is to cycle and bring back food 'downhill'May 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRbecause it should be nice and sunnyMay 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRand I want to be out moreMay 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRI should stiill be able to produce a lotMay 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRthis is consideered exerciseMay 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRI need ti kearn where I can shave off time, other than sleepMay 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRsleeping too little tends to cause headache after a bitMay 13 05:13
schestowitz-TRand the only way to make them go away is make up the hoursMay 13 05:13
Techrights-secniceMay 13 05:14
Techrights-secsleep and exercise cannot be skimped on, food sometimes depending on the balanceMay 13 05:14
schestowitz-TRfood is not the issue and we still find good pricesMay 13 05:14
schestowitz-TRthat might come in handy is we halve our working hoursMay 13 05:14
schestowitz-TR*ifMay 13 05:14
Techrights-secackMay 13 05:24
Techrights-secshould the Misinformation/Disinformation heading becomeMay 13 05:24
Techrights-secMisinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda ?May 13 05:24
schestowitz-TRI think that would overlap "Astro>TurfMay 13 05:24
Techrights-secok, should Propaganda be explicitly in Astroturf ? there is kind of a grey areaMay 13 05:25
Techrights-secbetween the astroturf and disinformation some stuff falls into bothMay 13 05:25
Techrights-secit's been a growing problem for some weeks May 13 05:25
schestowitz-TRMaybe we should refactor these and make more categsMay 13 05:26
schestowitz-TRlike misinformationMay 13 05:26
schestowitz-TRbeing separate from prpopagnada/disinofMay 13 05:26
schestowitz-TRand politics being its own categMay 13 05:26
Techrights-secokMay 13 05:27
schestowitz-TRone area of improvement, which I don;t think would affect any existing code, is dynamic insec atMay 13 05:28
schestowitz-TRthe top for html, it still uses an old static oneMay 13 05:28
schestowitz-TRin lagrance it can have bookmarks for the page, based on the headingsMay 13 05:28
Techrights-secyes the head can be changed.  So an index with internal links would be helpful?May 13 05:29
schestowitz-TRcurrently it has in it categs that used to be always occupied, but it was speculativeMay 13 05:30
schestowitz-TRaround 2008May 13 05:30
Techrights-secOh, perhaps it could be an index generated based on which categories actuallyMay 13 05:31
Techrights-sechave content?May 13 05:31
schestowitz-TRyes, but I never went as far as implementing thisaMay 13 05:33
schestowitz-TRand until years ago the background still says "boycott novell" in dimmed coloursMay 13 05:33
schestowitz-TRsome sites tried to imitate these daily linksMay 13 05:33
schestowitz-TRbefore realising it was too much work to maintain on a daily basisMay 13 05:33
schestowitz-TRfor us it's part of the frowl looking for topic to coverMay 13 05:33
Techrights-secyesMay 13 05:35
schestowitz-TRit also does, in general, makes you a better informed citizenMay 13 05:37
schestowitz-TRwhich can help you avoid many perils in lifeMay 13 05:38
schestowitz-TR(rianne watches "too much" gulagtube... mostly harmful channels... but the May 13 05:38
schestowitz-TR"recommended" over time steer her towards clickbair utter junk)May 13 05:38
schestowitz-TR*harmless I meantMay 13 05:38
schestowitz-TRnot harmfulMay 13 05:38
schestowitz-TRgulagtube steers her towards the harmful onesMay 13 05:38
Techrights-secyes youtube pushes constantly, there is always a risk of getting warn downMay 13 05:38
Techrights-secI use it too much (meaning still even at all) but nearly 100% of the timeMay 13 05:38
Techrights-secit is when following a specific external link to a specific video decidedMay 13 05:38
Techrights-secin advanceMay 13 05:38
schestowitz-TRI have to lookm away or almost shuit my eyes if I enter the front page to enter some search phraseMay 13 05:40
schestowitz-TRthis means their interface is neither useful nor healthyMay 13 05:40
schestowitz-TRtwitter is a lot like this tooMay 13 05:40
schestowitz-TR"I come here ONLY to do X"May 13 05:40
schestowitz-TR"stop messing with my head"May 13 05:40
Techrights-secyes I don't look at twitter at allMay 13 05:40
Techrights-secif it is like youtube it is hard to avoid seeing the thumbnails for the  May 13 05:40
Techrights-sec"recommendations"May 13 05:40
schestowitz-TRin twitter and gulagtube you need to place the browser window about 300pixels to the outside of the rasterMay 13 05:42
schestowitz-TRdepending on screen resolution as they have a "fluid" designMay 13 05:42
schestowitz-TRso it's not even predictableMay 13 05:42
schestowitz-TRin old rekonq I wrote some rules to just eliminate those sectionsMay 13 05:42
schestowitz-TRbut browsers and sites keep changing May 13 05:42
schestowitz-TRyou know they go too far where you have the digital equiv of "what did I come to the kitchen for??"May 13 05:45
Techrights-secit is that way on purpose.  when that happens I close the tab to avoidMay 13 05:46
Techrights-secplaying into their trapMay 13 05:46
schestowitz-TRinvidious reproduced a little bit of this behavious (sidebar, front page)May 13 05:47
schestowitz-TRbut it's free software May 13 05:47
schestowitz-TRthough I did not see instances thst change this default behaviourMay 13 05:47
Techrights-secyesMay 13 05:52
Techrights-secI think I see a way to do the Table of ContentsMay 13 05:52
Techrights-secIt would use an id attribute in each heading and then harvest those fromMay 13 05:52
Techrights-secthe non-empty nodesMay 13 05:52
schestowitz-TRthat would be an improvementMay 13 05:54
schestowitz-TRiirc, in gemtext the section with these gets lumped into the main textMay 13 05:54
schestowitz-TRan even super-duper version will also count <li> under a section, somehow, then add a number in May 13 05:54
schestowitz-TRbracketsMay 13 05:54
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "As enforced by these corporate apparatchiks of Managerialism, university academics are obliged to compete by means of publishing in the so-called top journals, and to stockpile (quantity over quality) ever greater numbers of publications than their peers." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/academentia-and-managerialism/ | Source: Counter PunchMay 13 05:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Academentia and Managerialism - CounterPunch.orgMay 13 05:58
schestowitz-TRIME, many publish the same crap over and over againMay 13 05:59
schestowitz-TRwith small tweaks of newer bits tucked inMay 13 06:00
schestowitz-TRto game the systemMay 13 06:00
schestowitz-TRpublcation and research are not the same thingMay 13 06:00
schestowitz-TRit's like assessing a workout based on number of repsMay 13 06:00
schestowitz-TRor a relationship based on total incomeMay 13 06:00
schestowitz-TR(few people even bother readon these papers in full, lecturing means greater audience thanMay 13 06:01
schestowitz-TRsome paper with 100 views of the abstract and 10 views of the actual paper, which month later isMay 13 06:01
schestowitz-TR"old")May 13 06:01
Techrights-seclookingMay 13 06:02
schestowitz-TRI'd rather do NOC than academiaMay 13 06:03
schestowitz-TRI used to do both in tandemMay 13 06:03
schestowitz-TRone was vastly easierMay 13 06:03
Techrights-secyes there are few decent ones mostly just fillerMay 13 06:03
schestowitz-TRwhat I do not like is, if they ask me to do project work and programming for ther salary of NOXMay 13 06:04
schestowitz-TRthat's what we thought would happenMay 13 06:04
schestowitz-TRand so we decided to leaveMay 13 06:04
schestowitz-TRbut not it is negotableMay 13 06:04
schestowitz-TR*nowMay 13 06:04
Techrights-secproject work is another price categoryMay 13 06:09
schestowitz-TRbut wait :-)May 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRit's also weekend/overnightMay 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRwhile there is potential for distraction like alerts or callsMay 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRto me, noc means nocMay 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRyou want projects/coding?May 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRsend me another contractMay 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRI am being to be "on-call" and write a short report and triage thingsMay 13 06:11
schestowitz-TRsometimes invetigate  or interveneMay 13 06:11
Techrights-secyepMay 13 06:12
schestowitz-TRby intervention I mean soemtimes like "restart jboss" if some alert seen and can be confirmed as true positiveMay 13 06:12
Techrights-secackMay 13 06:18
schestowitz-TR"if you are so smart, how come your salary is like this?"May 13 06:18
schestowitz-TR-Person who works 60-70 hours a week, grilling a person who carely works 6 a week May 13 06:18
Techrights-secackMay 13 06:21
Techrights-secit's a common misperceptionMay 13 06:21
schestowitz-TR(I am referring to siblings here)May 13 06:22
schestowitz-TR(fwiw, my barely educated mother assumes people study things just for a job, i.e. for money)May 13 06:22
schestowitz-TR(thankfully my dad, who never went to university, is not that shallow, so I'm not on my own)May 13 06:22
schestowitz-TRregarding exercise, since I open up to personal things atm, lately I used he stairs a lotMay 13 06:22
schestowitz-TRsets are sprints to uppser floor, sometimes with shotput ball at handMay 13 06:22
schestowitz-TRit's good cardio interval training (downstairs=interval)May 13 06:22
schestowitz-TRpsychological life hackMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRput backpack onMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRmake the mission to make the workout proftableMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRby carrying discounts backMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRthen count the savings as profitMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRif there is a lot to carry, and you sweat, that's "good workout"May 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRwhen we still went to the gym (we stopped around May 20 2021) we'd use the trip back homeMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRto hunt for foodMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRsometimes also discounted things for the home like a 10 pound wine rack (original was like 50 pounds)May 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRwe bought so many things in those years and can now use the many spares for decades, or use them as giftsMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRif you can save 200 a month on food, think of that as two work shifts (16 hours) you need not doMay 13 06:26
schestowitz-TRI hope current discount rates lastMay 13 06:31
schestowitz-TRwe can still find thoseMay 13 06:31
schestowitz-TRbut the searching has to extend furtherMay 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRlike casting a wider net for the same "catch"May 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRigf you save 1000-2000 a year, just by shopping "smarter", then means less labour is requiredMay 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRlabour => capital => "stored labour" (desposits)May 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRspendings/income ratio= pace of despositsMay 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRthe goal is not to overdo them, like falling into the "game" people shame you intoMay 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRwhich is likely harder - LOL - if you don't know how to access social control media inc. GulagTubeMay 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRGulagTube became so bad that even without the web interface you would get far too many adsMay 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRfor now, librewold zaps them all (I think)May 13 06:32
schestowitz-TRbetter ask rianne, I typically just use yewtu.beMay 13 06:32
Techrights-secyesMay 13 06:33
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Pedophilia is a real issue. No need to make it a partisan issue though. ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/gop-pedophilia-smear-incitement/ | Source: The NationMay 13 06:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The GOP's Pedophilia Smears Are An Incitement to Violence | The NationMay 13 06:38
schestowitz-TRClimate change => politicisedMay 13 06:38
schestowitz-TRUndoing unwanted conception => politicisedMay 13 06:38
schestowitz-TRwhat next?May 13 06:38
Techrights-seceverything is politicized,May 13 06:41
Techrights-secthe election committee which made illegal deals with Iran to bring the worldMay 13 06:41
Techrights-secthe Reagan administration turned that aspect of health care into a politicalMay 13 06:41
Techrights-secfootbalMay 13 06:41
Techrights-secfootballMay 13 06:41
*DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)May 13 06:45
schestowitz-TRspeaking of which, this weekend "our team" (200m from us) can secure its season winMay 13 06:45
schestowitz-TRcementing the leadMay 13 06:45
schestowitz-TRwe'll cycle past the stadium, laterMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRaftter rianne finishes gardeningMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRcultivating the soil for the neighbours' catsMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRto poo inMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TR"our team" is currently tanked 2ns in the worldMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TR*rankedMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRafter bayern munichMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRwhen we moved here it was barely in top 10May 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRbut the oil tycoons from UAE sank lots of money into itMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRsame way KSA does now with NUFCMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TR[05:56] <techrights-news> KSA sportswashing... and now buying Twitter via MusKSA  https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/May 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRgreg-norman-saudi-arabias-sportswashing-emissary/ | Source: Counter PunchMay 13 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-May 12, 2022 - CounterPunch.orgMay 13 06:46
Techrights-secKSA appears to be on a reputation laundering mission, and getting too muchMay 13 06:46
Techrights-seccomplicity in covering up past and present crimesMay 13 06:46
schestowitz-TRthat appeals to the masses who worship money, no matter how it's made and what follows itMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRlike war and stufMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRyou cannot deny it, sportwashing worksMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRand places/businesses that get this money do benefitMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRbut the problem is, it perpetuates a cycleMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRwhere many are in fact the losersMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRcurrently we try to lower the billsMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TResp. energyMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRonly exception is PCs, but they are all laptops with savings (modes) turned onMay 13 06:51
Techrights-secmany worship only money May 13 06:51
schestowitz-TR8 working 24/7, mine provide enough light so the bulbs are rarely needed May 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRand in winter some heat too is produced if I can seal off a room and then body heat too factors inMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRin winter I might go in the same room as rianne as heat is easier to conserve this wayMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRit took me less than one houir to move everything here, I clocked it ntentionallyMay 13 06:51
schestowitz-TRpeople who worship ONLY money (or mostly money) are playing a stupid sportMay 13 06:53
schestowitz-TRand later in life they realise that you cannot bring that money with you to "heaven"May 13 06:53
schestowitz-TRnor can you buy youth or health with itMay 13 06:53
schestowitz-TRdoing your hobbies when you are 67 is dumbMay 13 06:53
schestowitz-TRsome can barely walk around in places abroad May 13 06:53
schestowitz-TRmy mom already struggles in flights due to her kneesMay 13 06:54
Techrights-secnot so much a sport as LARPingMay 13 06:54
Techrights-sechttps://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-larping-live-action-role-playing-steampunk-aurum-larp-2018-10          May 13 06:54
Techrights-secshared fantasy /delusionMay 13 06:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | What Is LARPing (Live Action Role Playing)?May 13 06:54
schestowitz-TRnice analogyMay 13 06:55
schestowitz-TRI like the saying (and show) we have here, "Only Fools and Horses"May 13 06:55
schestowitz-TR(I guess you know what followsMay 13 06:55
schestowitz-TR New: "As to why I haven't left yet? Because it seems this “Agile” movement has invaded everywhere and things would be “more of the same” elsewhere. At least here, I'm not forced to use Windows [4]." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/12.1"May 13 06:58
Techrights-secyepMay 13 06:59
Techrights-secbtw check the new merged links for today, it has an automatically generated May 13 06:59
Techrights-sectable of contentsMay 13 06:59
Techrights-secif that is the way it should be then next step will be to get that into the    May 13 06:59
Techrights-secwork flowMay 13 06:59
Techrights-secackMay 13 06:59
schestowitz-TRa) there are ways to contribute to society other than jobsMay 13 07:02
schestowitz-TR(some jobs are BS). Good banks, activism...May 13 07:02
schestowitz-TRb) I will check the table of contents in a moment, it'll show up in tmux soonMay 13 07:02
schestowitz-TRc) something I forgot while typing a and b, but it wasn't important anywayMay 13 07:02
schestowitz-TRI akm chasing daily linkaa atm with gemini on the sideMay 13 07:02
schestowitz-TRmatey is very active in the main channel and is on topicMay 13 07:02
Techrights-secthat's great news about IRCMay 13 07:02
schestowitz-TRirc's problem is not the loss of timeMay 13 07:03
schestowitz-TRbut the loss of focus May 13 07:03
schestowitz-TRand why I muted dfcMay 13 07:03
schestowitz-TRhe's the equivalent of social control media GUIs (web UIs)May 13 07:03
schestowitz-TRot-ish: yesterday's meeting was using the self-serving lies about the health of the companyMay 13 07:06
schestowitz-TRbut you could sense they tried hard to keep everyone onboard (not all companies are like that)May 13 07:06
schestowitz-TRmaybe because the external HR agency cautioned them about cost of compensationMay 13 07:06
schestowitz-TRbut either way, this is the first such meeting in 3 yearsMay 13 07:06
schestowitz-TRand now without physical office they cannot waste our time on train journeysMay 13 07:06
schestowitz-TRrianne and I were 110 mins on call, spent similar length of time discussing outcomeMay 13 07:10
schestowitz-TRreduction of hours likely the way forward, but to keep pension and employement record, plusMay 13 07:10
schestowitz-TRreduction of tax deduction, both of us to stay onboardMay 13 07:10
schestowitz-TRat reduced capacityMay 13 07:10
schestowitz-TRwhich is something we thought about doing years ago anywayMay 13 07:10
schestowitz-TRwhhen I started in the company 11+ years ago I covered only Sat and SunMay 13 07:10
Techrights-secTOC generation is now integrated into the work flowMay 13 07:11
schestowitz-TRexcellent!May 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRI might soon work towards getting the publication patterns off wordpressMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRat least partlyMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRthe CMS treadmill "innovation" (so-called) means higher technical debtMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRtechdirt imprisoned itself in wordpressDOTCOMMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRthe bulletins, ipfs, gemini and others are a stepping stone towards where we want to beMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRI tried gnunet but it's alphaware at this pointMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRwith gemini, the site is just tar -opt [direction], untar /tar -xf directory, then add demon of choiceMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRlike vget in openbsd, which is just hundreds of LOCs iirc and open portMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRbut it does not have widepsread adoption yet and dealing with attachment is hardMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRI hope that will change in due courseMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRI stopped making material ABOUT geminiMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TR Disinformation  https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/meet-the-head-of-bidens-new-disinformation-governing-board/ May 13 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | Meet the Head of Biden’s New “Disinformation Governing Board” | The NationMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRthis is what worries meMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRCAs aside, it seems likeMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TR1) social control media gatekeepers , e.g. "hacker" "news"May 13 07:20
schestowitz-TR2) sofwtare designed to block/suppress some sitesMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TR3) balkanised Web, GOVERNMENT-imposed blacklists, amybe ISPs to joinMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRto "prtect us"May 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRwe don't need to wait until the "showdown"May 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRkriakou (cia whistleblower; we used to interact online) warns that this is about shutting offMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TR"undesirable" voices like hisMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRat one point only RT would consider him "permissible"May 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRand CONSORTRIUM NEWSMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRand now they crack down on those, tooMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRand those who appeared in RT have "splaining" top doMay 13 07:20
schestowitz-TRI meant vger earlier, not vgetMay 13 07:21
schestowitz-TRit probably lacks many featuresMay 13 07:21
schestowitz-TRbut the complexity of those things is very low, a bit like irc pre v.3May 13 07:21
Techrights-secyes it's happening on both sides of the AtlanticMay 13 07:22
Techrights-sechowever only a tiny amount of politicians even act aware of the problem May 13 07:22
Techrights-secthey could probably be counted on one hand, and then to make it worse,May 13 07:22
Techrights-seconly a subset ofthose is activngMay 13 07:22
Techrights-secvger requires one bit of very specialized knowledge to get runningMay 13 07:22
Techrights-secfor those that know it, it is deads simple to set upMay 13 07:22
Techrights-secfor those that lack the background it is a non-starterMay 13 07:22
schestowitz-TRfew remaining politicians are tech-savvyMay 13 07:24
schestowitz-TRand some of the experts they recruit are microsoftersMay 13 07:24
schestowitz-TRseems like patrick breyer might be the exceptionMay 13 07:24
schestowitz-TRbut among "establishment" politicians his party is regarded a laughing stockMay 13 07:24
schestowitz-TR(the name never helped, even as tongue-in-cheeck)May 13 07:24
schestowitz-TR"darknet" = something we cannot controlMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TR"shitcoin" = also something we cannot control, but that does not make it virtuousMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TR"shitcoin scams in the darknet" = associating scams and crime with thge formerMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRwhere the name, "darknet", does not help eitherMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRwww = FBMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRself-hosted WWW = LOL!!! YOUR SHITTTY SITE LOOKS SO 90s!!! LOL!!! And no "valid" cert...May 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRwhat about privacy??? Says the person froma a TWITTER account, running a pileshit of JSMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRjust to render 140 chars of shitpost May 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRin an account that demands 2FA with phone number an "APPS" that transmits location throughoutMay 13 07:28
schestowitz-TRthe dayMay 13 07:28
Techrights-secthey're not experts only sales teams and lobbyists posing as expertsMay 13 07:29
Techrights-secthe policitians like that because it is familiar and they get campaign moneyMay 13 07:29
Techrights-secself-hosed will soon be defacto illegal; self-signed certificates have beenMay 13 07:29
Techrights-secdropped from some libraries and modules, not just the major browsersMay 13 07:29
Techrights-secsurveillance is one of the objectives common to both industry and governmentMay 13 07:29
schestowitz-TRGOVERNMENT-FUNDED "industry"May 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRyou saw my link from yesterdayMay 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRif the tech giants fail, the taxpayers will bail "big tech" like they do "big banks"May 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRif the US goes underMay 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRChina will do the sameMay 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRit is about "national interest", not "job creation"May 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRthe high-paid workers are riding tax money and national debtMay 13 07:31
Techrights-secyesMay 13 07:31
schestowitz-TRI like to use the term "doping"May 13 07:32
schestowitz-TRlike business that net VC moneyMay 13 07:32
schestowitz-TRand quickly waste that on gradeurMay 13 07:32
schestowitz-TRlike using up the harvest by SewptemberMay 13 07:32
schestowitz-TRto thenm starve in winterMay 13 07:32
schestowitz-TRI'd rather earn little, slowly, not buy a second-hand mercedes to make impressionsMay 13 07:32
schestowitz-TR"fighting desertification" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/un-report-warns-earth-crossroads-battle-against-global-drought-crisisMay 13 07:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | UN Report Warns Earth at 'Crossroads' in Battle Against Global Drought CrisisMay 13 07:33
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Russia warned Thursday that it would not hesitate to retaliate should Finland join NATO" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/russia-threatens-retaliatory-steps-finland-inches-closer-joining-nato | Source: Common DreamsMay 13 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Russia Threatens 'Retaliatory Steps' as Finland Inches Closer to Joining NATOMay 13 07:35
schestowitz-TRjust noticed pi's nginx served over 6k pages yesterdayMay 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRwe have another pi available, same OS, could do HA at home although both rely on same ISPMay 13 07:53
schestowitz-TROK, I've just opened the "merged" revised fileMay 13 08:08
schestowitz-TRvery well doneMay 13 08:08
schestowitz-TRI will integrate this into my workflowMay 13 08:08
schestowitz-TRI might have to change timeline.sh a tad bitMay 13 08:08
schestowitz-TRthen I will check what it looks like in gemtextMay 13 08:08
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Techrights-secthanksMay 13 08:15
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Techrights-seccontext?May 13 08:55
schestowitz"May 13 08:57
schestowitzLinks 11/05/2022: KDE Gear 22.04.1 and EuroLinux 8.6May 13 08:57
schestowitzPosted in News Roundup at 8:42 am by Dr. Roy SchestowitzContentsGNU/LinuxDistributionsDevices/EmbeddedFree Software/Open SourceLeftoversMay 13 08:57
schestowitz"May 13 08:57
Techrights-secgemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/12/eurolinux-8-6/May 13 09:08
Techrights-seccheckcingMay 13 09:08
schestowitz-TRit is just that I am guessing thiss line is about to become a lot longerMay 13 09:10
schestowitz-TRit would be good for gemini when all gemini articles are presented in a way that does not giveMay 13 09:10
schestowitz-TRthe impression of afterhought or second-class citizenryMay 13 09:10
schestowitz-TRI am guilty of that sometimes, e.g. with memes, but I  started including headlines too and author names  May 13 09:10
schestowitz-TRfrom screenshotsMay 13 09:10
Techrights-secyes so it should be removed since Gemiini does not have internal linksMay 13 09:10
schestowitz-TRThat looks  very nice in largance though, it shows full index for the page on the sidebar and clicking takes you to the rigMay 13 09:11
schestowitz-TRht sectionMay 13 09:11
schestowitz-TRbetter experience than in "modern" Web browsersMay 13 09:11
Techrights-seccheck git May 13 09:18
Techrights-secrunning cron updaterMay 13 09:18
schestowitz-TRok check the above link May 13 09:22
Techrights-secok check the above link May 13 09:22
schestowitz-TRgreat, this also fixed that for other posts where the categories did not fit in and lacked spacesMay 13 09:23
schestowitz-TRrianne is posting in tm, soon I will post daily links, I am not working on timeline.sh wokflowMay 13 09:23
Techrights-secnpMay 13 09:28
schestowitz-TRis there a change in another file that latches onto links-toc.pl and is not updates in git?May 13 10:02
schestowitz-TR*updatedMay 13 10:02
Techrights-secyes ... checkingMay 13 10:06
Techrights-secadded to git; I thought I had it symlinked but don't since I have to customizeMay 13 10:06
Techrights-secthe pathsMay 13 10:06
schestowitz-TRI am guessing it's a fuction call somewhere and that I can add that at my end as wellMay 13 10:22
schestowitz-TRI got it workingMay 13 10:22
schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/about-bsdMay 13 10:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 13/05/2022: End of ‘About BSD’ | TechrightsMay 13 10:25
schestowitz-TRI tried a bunch of things to get things after Leftovers to also show up in the TOCMay 13 10:26
schestowitz-TRfor some reason it stop after LeftoversMay 13 10:26
schestowitzhttps://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2F%3Fstoriesddd&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2FservicesMay 13 10:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-validator.w3.org | [Invalid] Markup Validation of http://techrights.org/?storiesddd - W3C Markup ValidatorMay 13 10:29
Techrights-secok checkingMay 13 10:29
schestowitz-TRI was just about to suggest sending thatMay 13 10:44
schestowitz-TRhang on ...May 13 10:44
schestowitz-TRsorry, I was posting to TM, so got distractedMay 13 10:44
Techrights-secThe input file is the 2022-05-13.html or 2022-05-13-merged.html nothing elseMay 13 10:44
Techrights-secwhat file are you trying to process with links-toc.pl ?May 13 10:44
Techrights-secthanks for the validator links, there are some warnings and errors I can fixMay 13 10:44
Techrights-secfrom here but not allMay 13 10:44
Techrights-secnew templateMay 13 10:44
Techrights-sec Error Line 4408, Column 12: ID "ipfs-table" already defined May 13 10:44
Techrights-sec Info Line 1865, Column 12: ID "ipfs-table" first defined here May 13 10:44
schestowitz-TROK, #m[number] works nowMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRI will copy the templateMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRI have juts tested with past 6 daily links' input filesMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRsometimes it goes further than leftoversMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRI wonder if invalid xhtml is what causes it to panicMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRtesting some moreMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRI am starting to suspect is gets baffled ifthe first level sections have items in them, but still testingMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRyes, OK, now I am quite sureMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|May 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|-Section AMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|-news May 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|-Section BMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRwould break and show just Section AMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRif you remove "news"May 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|-Section AMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|----Section BMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TR|----Secttion CMay 13 10:56
schestowitz-TRthen it copes OKMay 13 10:56
Techrights-secid attributes must be unique so if they are to be repeated then class wouldMay 13 10:57
Techrights-secbe more appropriate for formatting and layout mattersMay 13 10:57
Techrights-secgreatMay 13 10:57
schestowitz-TRthe ipfs validation error (and similar) are due to me "not writing enough articles"May 13 10:58
schestowitz-TRso the blogs's front page shows two "IRC posts" among the "latest 8" and sections are redefined with nonunqie IDsMay 13 10:58
Techrights-secakcMay 13 11:11
schestowitz-TRI could just abstain from nesting iterms directly under level 1 headingsMay 13 11:17
schestowitz-TRthat would not be hardMay 13 11:17
schestowitz-TRabout to set off cyclingMay 13 11:17
schestowitz-TRchecking all of today's gz filesMay 13 11:17
schestowitz-TRtm, wordpress, drupal OK; only wiki gz invalidMay 13 11:17
Techrights-secackMay 13 11:17
schestowitz-TRbblMay 13 11:17
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schestowitz-TRback homeMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRsaved about 40May 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRnow properly back (desk) May 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRon the way back I thought,May 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRiunstead of #m[number]May 13 14:10
Techrights-secgood savingsMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRmaybe pick random letterMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRas some pages contain muliple batches of Daily LinksMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRhence there is a good chande if id collisionMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRwhich not only renders validation errorsMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRbut also ambiguity as to what direction the drirector links toMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRwith 50+ letters the program goes away, or maybe some other thing, date would be the worst UIDMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRas the  collusion would typically occur with batches of the same dateMay 13 14:10
schestowitz-TRbtw, my "leave my job" draft can be rcycled as "going part part" to focus on the siteMay 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRpending confirmationMay 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRwe did the maths and realise there's no way to retire,  not even close, far toioo earlyMay 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRHe's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/May 13 16:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold over bot count • The RegisterMay 13 16:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | TechrightsMay 13 16:08
schestowitz-TRHe's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://tecMay 13 16:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: tec; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tec )May 13 16:08
schestowitz-TRhrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/May 13 16:08
schestowitz-TRrealising they pay for a pile of dying shitMay 13 16:08
schestowitz-TRwhile twitter makes my account seem like suddenly impression quadrupledMay 13 16:08
schestowitz-TRand it's obv. fakeMay 13 16:08
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Techrights-secTwitter is a massive disinformation megaphone and contol of it is worthMay 13 18:50
Techrights-seca lot of money to some malevolent interests.May 13 18:50
Techrights-secwhat kind of actions + savings can put you on a trajectory to retire in 10 yearsMay 13 18:50
Techrights-sec?May 13 18:50
schestowitz-TRif I worked very very hard on "money", I could retire in 10 yearsMay 13 18:52
schestowitz-TRbut then I'd losing 10 years trying to earn moneyMay 13 18:52
schestowitz-TRso the balanced approached is betterMay 13 18:52
schestowitz-TRmaybe we'll even move somewhere that is less expensiveMay 13 18:52
schestowitz-TRbut that's just a thoughtMay 13 18:52
schestowitz-TRthe world is too vaolatile atmMay 13 18:52
Techrights-secok I was wondering what timescale a balanced track would bringMay 13 18:52
schestowitz-TRI hope MusKSA withdrsw, then Twitter collapses, for good...May 13 18:54
schestowitz-TRboth of b/     May 13 18:54
schestowitz-TRbest of both worldsMay 13 18:54
schestowitz-TRin a senseMay 13 18:54
schestowitz-TRlike Microsoft and Yhoo!May 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRThey kept doing that to Yahoo!May 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRuntil Yahoo! diedMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRTwitter would not recoverMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRthey already piss people off by saying Trump might come backMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRand Musk got TOOOOOONNNNS of freepress over fake, hypothetical, likely impossibleMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TR"free speech" May 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRso he got his money's worth alreadyMay 13 18:55
Techrights-seca collapse of twitter would be to nearly everyone's advantageMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRalso as shareholderMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRsee the link (you sent?) re SEC investigationMay 13 18:55
schestowitz-TRregarding toc code, I can refrain from adding links right after level heading 1May 13 18:56
schestowitz-TRas I said, choosing a random letter eahc time for id would dodge ambiguity across batches of Daily LinksMay 13 18:56
Techrights-secI can look at that over the next few days, probablyMay 13 18:57
schestowitz-TRre Twitter, a shame think we forgot to buy popcornMay 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRI'd buy even without a discountMay 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRonce again, as the "Why I hate Elon Musk Video" starts,May 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRMusk get a ton of free publicity without spending a centMay 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRTrump was good at that tooMay 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRje just says Trump, free speech, a bunch of other stuffMay 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRand did not even seal the deal, it seems...May 13 19:03
schestowitz-TRmeanwhile Twitter Inc. puff up its chestMay 13 19:04
schestowitz-TRpretending to be bigMay 13 19:04
schestowitz-TRlike 4 times biggerMay 13 19:04
schestowitz-TRlike AOL the floppy delivery systemMay 13 19:04
Techrights-secackMay 13 19:04
Techrights-secackMay 13 19:20
Techrights-secI'm not sure I understand what change is needed with the TOC code.  Can youMay 13 19:20
Techrights-secshow a URL or more details?May 13 19:20
schestowitz-TRsure, I need to demonstrate with two or more filesMay 13 19:22
schestowitz-TRinput filesMay 13 19:22
schestowitz-TRdoy uoMay 13 19:22
schestowitz-TRI think I froze ytalk, ctrl s/qMay 13 19:22
schestowitz-TRmanaged to undo that or maybe network lagMay 13 19:22
schestowitz-TRdo you need clarification about random letterMay 13 19:22
schestowitz-TRor nested item right below level 1 heading? or both?May 13 19:23
Techrights-secctrl s will freeze, ctrl q will unfreezeMay 13 19:23
Techrights-secClarification regarding which file.  I suppose the Epoch could be used as partMay 13 19:24
Techrights-secof the id attribute, that would make it unique enough since the script wouldMay 13 19:24
Techrights-secbe most unlikely to be run twice in one secondMay 13 19:24
schestowitz-TRhour of day would make it unique enoughMay 13 19:25
schestowitz-TRrianne and I are scraping the pile of news quite hard thurd and fridayMay 13 19:25
schestowitz-TRbecause there is almost nothing of substanceMay 13 19:25
schestowitz-TRI will provide input filesMay 13 19:25
Techrights-secokMay 13 19:30
Techrights-sectm is having troubleMay 13 19:30
Techrights-secor at least unreachable from hereMay 13 19:30
schestowitz-TRsee your account on piMay 13 19:30
schestowitz-TR1) run with links-before.htmlMay 13 19:30
schestowitz-TR2) two now the one "with-sternberg"May 13 19:30
schestowitz-TR3) the diff is one link after leftovers May 13 19:31
schestowitz-TR4) the output diff is TOC going to end of file vs stopping at leftoversMay 13 19:31
schestowitz-TRI've just started ddos protector on TMMay 13 19:31
schestowitz-TRdue to a surge (load avg 48)May 13 19:31
Techrights-secthanksMay 13 19:31
Techrights-secokMay 13 19:31
Techrights-sectm is having troubleMay 13 19:31
Techrights-secor at least unreachable from hereMay 13 19:31
Techrights-secchecking file    May 13 19:31
Techrights-secackMay 13 19:31
schestowitz-TRohl, oops, I put the files in MY homedor on YOUR serverMay 13 19:33
Techrights-secnot seeing any new file in the home directory  May 13 19:33
Techrights-secone problem might be also with the div id for the whole toc itself fromMay 13 19:33
Techrights-secthe templateMay 13 19:33
Techrights-secok lookingMay 13 19:51
Techrights-sectaking a guess...working...May 13 19:51
Techrights-secok check GitMay 13 19:51
Techrights-secthe id for the toc div is also replacedMay 13 19:51
schestowitz-TRthanksMay 13 19:54
schestowitz-TRtrying...May 13 19:54
schestowitz-TRthe IDs are much better now, that's very goodMay 13 19:54
schestowitz-TRwhen I run it with sternberg the TOC ends after "leftovers"May 13 19:54
schestowitz-TRI checked to be sure I use the latest revisionMay 13 19:54
Techrights-secmake sure to use the latest template.htmlMay 13 19:58
Techrights-secackMay 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRoh, that would be it.... let me tryMay 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRiirc, we had a bunch of old template lying aboutMay 13 20:08
schestowitz-TRbut maybe not in git rather some some diretory somewhere?May 13 20:08
Techrights-secthe one in Git is the authoritative oneMay 13 20:08
Techrights-secin the Links directoryMay 13 20:08
schestowitz-TRI don't remember where the old ones were, maybe the older gitMay 13 20:19
schestowitz-TRbut either way, mine had some hacks bolted onto itMay 13 20:19
schestowitz-TRso I filed it in git and will have to make subtle changes May 13 20:19
schestowitz-TRmy changes are very minor, I just need to test a few timesMay 13 20:19
schestowitz-TROk, I found them, they are in ~/bin May 13 20:24
schestowitz-TRtemplate* filesMay 13 20:24
schestowitz-TRthat's how I remembered itMay 13 20:24
schestowitz-TRI will move them to a new dirMay 13 20:24
schestowitz-TRthere are now 5 files under ~/bin/templateMay 13 20:24
schestowitz-TRif I become part timer I should tidy those bits up as wellMay 13 20:24
Techrights-secOk but the one all the perl scripts are based on is in Links in GitMay 13 20:26
Techrights-secmaybe best to delete or at least tar+gzip the old ones so they are May 13 20:26
Techrights-secout of the wayMay 13 20:26
Techrights-secackMay 13 20:26
schestowitz-TRI've begun making my own 'deriv' of templateMay 13 20:28
schestowitz-TRbecause I need a lot more "slots" for howtosMay 13 20:28
schestowitz-TRand the top part contains some 'logic' for adding the right date to title in wordpressMay 13 20:28
schestowitz-TRthose are easy, trivial edits, I won't push these backMay 13 20:28
schestowitz-TRI have some vbery oddball workflowMay 13 20:28
schestowitz-TRand some magic mouse buttons to help make it fasterMay 13 20:28
Techrights-secI just add them on the fly with not-quite-macrosMay 13 20:28
Techrights-secextra mouse buttons would help a lot I expectMay 13 20:28
schestowitz-TRI used to do the same with xbindkeys (still there, too)May 13 20:29
schestowitz-TRbut mouse if faster, the thumb just moves a littleMay 13 20:29
schestowitz-TRgn   May 13 20:33
schestowitz-TRI will test here what needs testingMay 13 20:33
schestowitz-TRthis will overll improve Daily linksMay 13 20:33
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