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schestowitz-TRI've added list-rss-feed.sh to gitJun 13 00:45
schestowitz-TRnot the list itself, but something that just flattens and sorts of opmlJun 13 00:45
schestowitz-TRthis can be used to track additions of feeds over timeJun 13 00:45
schestowitz-TRfor gemini we have two very long files, lists of xml feeds for gemini capsulesJun 13 00:45
schestowitz-TRthe hope it to encourage people to use theseJun 13 00:45
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> This past weekend I've been hunting for RSS feeds. I'm shocked that some MSM sites became surprisingly small (very few original stories per day)Jun 13 11:07
schestowitz-TRbtw, irc logs not posted yetJun 13 11:07
Techrights-sec2IRC logs postedJun 13 11:39
schestowitz-TRthanks, I'll post Daily Links nowJun 13 11:39
schestowitz-TRI'm still trying to net more and more RSS feedsJun 13 11:39
schestowitz-TRidentifying sites and sections that cover relevant topics, then pursuing feeds for theseJun 13 11:39
schestowitz-TRI find a ton of interesting things along the wayJun 13 11:39
schestowitz-TRis there something sensitive in the list of feeds (1150 or so in total, after dupe removal)? i've been trying to make a repeatable process with sorting toJun 13 11:42
schestowitz-TR change-control the list, potentially, but realise some reveals stuff about the collector's tasteJun 13 11:42
schestowitz-TRI used to spend days hunting for RSS feeds, there's no authoritative source of an "OPML central" (which incidentally can be like DMOZ but for XML)Jun 13 11:42
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 11:47
Techrights-sec2the RSS feeds turn upwhen they turn upJun 13 11:47
schestowitz-TRsee  /tmp/sorted-rss-feeds.txtJun 13 11:52
schestowitz-TRoutput from list-rss-feed.shJun 13 11:52
schestowitz-TRjust sent over as wellJun 13 11:52
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 11:54
Techrights-sec2is that generated with the latest version of the script?Jun 13 11:54
schestowitz-TRmaybe I changed the filename a bitJun 13 11:56
Techrights-sec2is that generated with the latest version of the script?Jun 13 11:59
Techrights-sec2check Git   Jun 13 11:59
schestowitz-TRthanks Jun 13 11:59
schestowitz-TR(markdown works ok with git, xml with ordered sets and unordered sets is not git territories, hence no opml)Jun 13 11:59
schestowitz-TRchecking gitJun 13 11:59
schestowitz-TRhang on, trying to avert multitasking overloadJun 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRlearning froma  recent past mistake...Jun 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRI think a next chapter for us, which merits promotion, is the concept of moving away from cenralised platforms of all sorts and using rss to do the "legwoJun 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRrk"Jun 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRwhich is not the same as gemini, in geminispace too there's a growing centralisation issue as some provide gemini "hosting" for "accounts"Jun 13 12:02
Techrights-sec2ack     Jun 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRok, pushedJun 13 12:06
schestowitz-TRpeople are lazyJun 13 12:06
schestowitz-TRor unfamiliar with rssJun 13 12:06
schestowitz-TRanything to lower the entry barrier can put them OFF social control mediaJun 13 12:06
schestowitz-TRthey think they "need" that to know what's newJun 13 12:06
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 13 12:20
schestowitz-TR "I recently discovered that my ISP was blocking the domain 'rt.com'. This is the domain of a 'sanctioned' media company, Russia Today. Prior to Russia invading Ukraine, this was a mainstream news source." gemini://gemini.susa.net/shocking_dns_nothingness.gmiJun 13 12:22
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 12:30
schestowitz-TRslippery slopeJun 13 12:31
schestowitz-TR1. "pirate" sites (only after lengthy court battles, in some nations)Jun 13 12:31
schestowitz-TR2. "news" source we do not agree withJun 13 12:31
schestowitz-TR...Jun 13 12:31
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schestowitz-TRdraftJun 13 13:34
schestowitz-TRI've just added a newer (shorter) oneJun 13 13:34
schestowitz-TRI think this subject is rarely exploredJun 13 13:34
schestowitz-TRIn Gemini drawing a fake table is the only wayJun 13 13:34
schestowitz-TRwith ''' (slanted)Jun 13 13:34
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 13:34
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 13 13:34
Techrights-sec2a regular HTML table would work thereJun 13 13:34
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 13:34
Techrights-sec2I seldom check youtube videos; even going in to specific known videos, Jun 13 13:41
Techrights-sec2they are filled with ads and you have to interact with the ad to getJun 13 13:41
Techrights-sec2past it otherwise the video will not return.  I'm a about completely Jun 13 13:41
Techrights-sec2done with youtubeJun 13 13:41
schestowitz-TRthis morning while shaving I watched the latest video from robertsonJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRrianne makes fun of his voice, she cannot help it, says he sounds like femaleJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRhis video showed not much on the screen, but he pastes together many "takes"Jun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRthe video had little actual value because it was repetitiveJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRbasically, arch good, but not for everything, coz hard...Jun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRif you STILL want to watch youtube, do what rianne does and get librewoldJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRfor now, at least, it rids you from lots of the crapJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRshe is glad to have lft firefox behindJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRpartly because of the viewing experience, while it lasts...Jun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRafaik, yutube-dl and derivs are for downloading more than for streaming (yes, I knowJun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRthose are similar)Jun 13 13:42
schestowitz-TRif I see a video I really like, I download, keep, replayJun 13 13:42
Techrights-sec2mosty empty commentary from him though sometimes on rare occasion quiteJun 13 13:43
Techrights-sec2insightfulJun 13 13:43
Techrights-sec2but the arch video was not one of the good onesJun 13 13:43
Techrights-sec2youtube-dl still works most ofthe time but is very slow and can take an hourJun 13 13:43
Techrights-sec2for a video that might be skipped sometimes after seeing the first secondsJun 13 13:43
Techrights-sec2i see few of those and have no real way of properly cataloguing them Jun 13 13:43
Techrights-sec2there are on occasion those that I would prefer to bring public attention toJun 13 13:43
schestowitz-TRthere needs to be a IA/Wayback Machine for videoJun 13 13:46
schestowitz-TRI know they host videos, but that is not the sameJun 13 13:46
schestowitz-TRa lot of videos we linked to or used in techrgihts over the years are just blank slot nowJun 13 13:46
schestowitz-TRfor some posts, the posts are rendered next to worthless, except near time of publicaitonJun 13 13:46
schestowitz-TRlike those that link to Lunduke videosJun 13 13:46
schestowitz-TRhe removed almost every video he ever madeJun 13 13:46
Techrights-sec2that had been Youtube before it was purchasedJun 13 13:47
Techrights-sec2LBRY is still there but is nearly 100% garbage, Jun 13 13:47
Techrights-sec2because of URLs it is still possible to point to useful material thereJun 13 13:47
Techrights-sec2but only if one comes in from the outside to a known good videoJun 13 13:47
Techrights-sec2searching and browsing will only bring garbage thereJun 13 13:47
schestowitz-TRLBRY seems like fakecoin inflation pump and dumpJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRwith 'free' hosting as baitJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRlast night in gemini I saw a post about a similar platform that mandates you play the NFT spielJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRjust to be admitted insideJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRthe way to go is peertubeJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRbut unless it's a popular video with many peers it's too slow to get goingJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TReven the blender instance of it was way too slow for meJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRI did not try searching odysee, but I'm not too interested eitherJun 13 13:50
schestowitz-TRit doesn't work in my browser of choiceJun 13 13:50
Techrights-sec2:(Jun 13 13:51
Techrights-sec2I've not used peertube, it's too slow :/Jun 13 13:51
Techrights-sec2Odysee is just a UI for LBRY the same comment applies there plus it is infectedJun 13 13:51
Techrights-sec2with gratuitious and useless javascriptJun 13 13:51
schestowitz-TRif the world's datacentres, CDNs and underwater cables can bear the load of gulagtube, netflix, iptv etc. then this is an allocaiton-of-capacityJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRissue rather than a real technocal perilJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRbut "powers DAT BEEEE" like it the way it is and won't just give away the powers associated with centralisation and DRMJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRbetter yet, with p2p you free up a lot of untapped capacity og bluetooth and wifiJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRmeshing for instance Jun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRbut efficiency isn't a priority, even for the so-called "green agenda" politicians Jun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRthey most resort to low-cost pandering with sound bites and distance-future promises, pledgesJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRapropos, give each person a 5 TB drive with "content", inc. wikipedia in all language, you'll help the planet vastly moreJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TRthan all those graft  (boradbast access) programmesJun 13 13:55
schestowitz-TR*brandbandJun 13 13:55
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 13:55
Techrights-sec2YaCy tried that but could not gain tractionJun 13 13:55
Techrights-sec2https://yacy.net/Jun 13 14:33
Techrights-sec2maybe after the mythical OS upgrade we can run an instance of YaCy at TR,Jun 13 14:33
Techrights-sec2first for the site itself, later for documents pointed to in the daily linksJun 13 14:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yacy.net | Home - YaCyJun 13 14:33
schestowitz-TRyes, more likle migration to a new container or VMJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRwhich depends on the network too being configured to point to the new one when it is  readyJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRipfs is a dht pollution machineJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRakin to shitcoin with merkle treesJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRI've grown dissatisfiedJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRthe more you throw at it, the more it takesJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRuntil you push the limits of hardware and networkJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRit's like a corporation :-)Jun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRyes, more likle migration to a new container or VMJun 13 14:34
schestowitz-TRwhich depends on the network too being configured to point to the new one when it is  readyJun 13 14:34
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 14:56
schestowitz-TRrss news have become calmer since not receiving microsofters in the feedsJun 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRor spam or false positivesJun 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRI've just made some gemini fixesJun 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRthe trash there does exist, but it's not corporate trashJun 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRjust people with trash for brains sometimesJun 13 14:57
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 14:57
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 13 14:58
schestowitz-TRi also learned some git syntax in the processJun 13 15:00
schestowitz-TRlike how to watch a particular old version of a fileJun 13 15:00
schestowitz-TRgit show commit-id:path-to-file/fileJun 13 15:00
schestowitz-TRI was trying to understand how a dupe in the imports crept inJun 13 15:00
schestowitz-TRI tried to model an addition based on an existing one, forgot to delete the modelJun 13 15:01
schestowitz-TRdidn't notice until nowJun 13 15:01
schestowitz-TRthe page to use is AllInOne.gmiJun 13 15:01
schestowitz-TRthat compresses everything and organised itJun 13 15:01
Techrights-sec2yesJun 13 15:01
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 15:01
schestowitz-TRhad we used rss software that is extensible, it would be possible to do processing there tooJun 13 15:02
schestowitz-TRthe automated feeds already do that to some degree, e.g. dupe detectionJun 13 15:02
schestowitz-TRalso the spamSites.pm detection/matchingJun 13 15:03
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 15:03
Techrights-sec2yes there is some caching in the RSS specification or at least a request Jun 13 15:03
Techrights-sec2for how often is the maximum update frequencyJun 13 15:03
schestowitz-TRif impelemneted correctly, rss files are cheap to send, cheaper than most imagesJun 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRcacing rss is very eayJun 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRyou only attach a trigger even to new "content" adds, modify the file onceJun 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRa page with 50 images in it should be more cumbersome for a server than 50 requests for the same rss feedJun 13 15:08
Techrights-sec2/if/ implemented correctly, some embed whole articles :/Jun 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRgiving full article rss is good practiceJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRappreciate by manyJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRappreciatedJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRit can actually help performaneJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRand lower toll on your siteJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRbecause people do not go to the site to get css files sd suchJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRfull rss, full story textJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRthe issue is, some fear it would be leveraged for scraping and plagiarism (as happens)Jun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRsome sites cannot deal too well with relative paths (e.g. for images), so it also helps to have images and attachment as Jun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TR"self-contained"Jun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRfull story rss is terrible for metrics like "pageviews"Jun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRbecause some people onlye ven fetch xml filkesJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRand not even per-page xmlJun 13 15:14
schestowitz-TRin those cases, one surrogate for view, assuming the rss reader can diusplay image, is number of requests for an image in that page/postJun 13 15:14
Techrights-sec2except that those badly done RSS feeds seem to fetch images tooJun 13 15:14
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 15:14
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schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536377800835289088#mJun 13 17:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Stuff like this is why I have to do things like get @schestowitz to re-host their crazy ass blog posts for posterity: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Create-stickiness-with-IP-Microsoft-Partner-Network.pdf"|nitter.itJun 13 17:31
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536118999221735426#mJun 13 17:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog): "apparently MS has my tweets monitored so I do plan to finish live tweeting seasons 4, 5 and 6 of Dawson's Creek for their entertainment"|nitter.itJun 13 17:33
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536116460359192576#mJun 13 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog): "if u followed me for cybersecurity stuff, monday to fridays work hours i do boring cyber stuff, evenings is Love Island and Dawson's Creek, and Saturday and Sunday is video games."|nitter.itJun 13 17:34
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536118999221735426#mJun 13 17:34
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536378116137811968#mJun 13 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Totally a coincidence"|nitter.itJun 13 17:35
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1536253258821509120#mJun 13 17:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC in Slovenia, someone checked if the 2/3 majority requirement was followed, apparently not http://techrights.org/2022/06/12/another-reason-unified-patent-court-upc-is-a-hostile-coup-that-will-fail/"|nitter.itJun 13 17:35
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schestowitz-TRI am adding some changed that I've just tested successfull (first go)Jun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TRsuccessfully with a small caveatJun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TRthat affects pages where you can have up to 365 days listedJun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TRand groups them into monthsJun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TRok, pushedJun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TRthe changes are simple enough to be self-explanatoryJun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1536253258821509120#mJun 13 18:27
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536377800835289088#mJun 13 18:27
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 18:29
Techrights-sec2okJun 13 18:29
schestowitz-TRI can clean my feeds a lot faster now, with gulkag removedJun 13 18:30
schestowitz-TRand want to garden things moreJun 13 18:30
schestowitz-TRthe highest priority iis OS migration, but there is a bottleneck who is in canada atmJun 13 18:30
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 18:30
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schestowitz-TRLOLJun 13 19:16
schestowitz-TRMozilla does it againJun 13 19:16
schestowitz-TRgo to the Mozilla blogJun 13 19:16
schestowitz-TRMaybe Moz thinks that Firefox users in subsaharan africa are a copy of SF/Bay AreaJun 13 19:16
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 13 19:16
Techrights-sec2link?Jun 13 19:16
Techrights-sec2oh, I see.  The themes of the interviews.  Nothing about tech, it seems.Jun 13 19:16
schestowitz-TRwait, this sucksJun 13 19:19
schestowitz-TRthe eitorial presentation in the site and rss feed is not the sameJun 13 19:19
schestowitz-TRI need anothher 'angle' on thisJun 13 19:19
schestowitz-TRalso see what I published re phoronix moments agoJun 13 19:19
schestowitz-TRwow, mozilla does not advertise rss feedsat lacllkJun 13 19:19
schestowitz-TRbut plenty of buttons for facebook, twitter, gulagJun 13 19:19
schestowitz-TRthey don't give a shit about the webJun 13 19:19
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Techrights-sec2no rss feed, looked at https://blog.mozilla.org/en/latest/ insteadJun 13 19:32
Techrights-sec2Mozilla is to the web what LF is now to LinuxJun 13 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Latest - The Mozilla BlogJun 13 19:32
schestowitz-TRexactly! see my draftJun 13 19:32
schestowitz-TRwe thought the sameJun 13 19:32
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 13 19:32
Techrights-sec2probably ought to mention specifically what made Mozilla popular in the "old"Jun 13 19:32
Techrights-sec2daysJun 13 19:32
Techrights-sec2-- standards and a lean, modular, FOSS browserJun 13 19:32
schestowitz-TRrephrasedJun 13 19:44
schestowitz-TRin draftJun 13 19:44
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Coronavirus Celebrated Jubilee https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/13/covid19-celebrated-jubilee/Jun 13 19:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Coronavirus Celebrated JubileeJun 13 19:50
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 19:53
schestowitz-TRgo celebrate with grandma liz (well, you paid for the party anyway... already.. through tax)Jun 13 19:55
schestowitz-TRdon't worry if your own grandma died later because you gave her somethingJun 13 19:55
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 19:56
schestowitz-TRacross the road from us there is a stadium with ~50k seating capacityJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRnot counting the pitchJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRthey had 5 or 6 concerns here this monthJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TReo you can estimate how many "kids" passed near usJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRrianne did a lot of the trips to town for foodJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRand she complained about how reckles these people areJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRyou would not know we're worse off than summer 2020 and 2021Jun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRI showed it in my blogJun 13 19:58
Techrights-sec2ackJun 13 19:58
Techrights-sec2:(Jun 13 19:58
Techrights-sec2they are shortsighted and carelessJun 13 19:58
schestowitz-TRit might not kill themJun 13 19:59
schestowitz-TR'only' loved onesJun 13 19:59
schestowitz-TRto covid-19 they are not just superspreadersJun 13 20:01
schestowitz-TRbut "SUPERNODES"Jun 13 20:01
schestowitz-TRthey are conduits through which to reach more vulnerable human tissuesJun 13 20:01
schestowitz-TRbut the media is "tried" of THAT crisisJun 13 20:01
schestowitz-TR*tiredJun 13 20:01
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schestowitz-TR)just did some housekeeping in TM: test local backup, messages (syslog), mysql.log; all OK. Just needed the affirmation)Jun 13 20:22
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