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schestowitz-TR | I've added list-rss-feed.sh to git | Jun 13 00:45 |
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schestowitz-TR | not the list itself, but something that just flattens and sorts of opml | Jun 13 00:45 |
schestowitz-TR | this can be used to track additions of feeds over time | Jun 13 00:45 |
schestowitz-TR | for gemini we have two very long files, lists of xml feeds for gemini capsules | Jun 13 00:45 |
schestowitz-TR | the hope it to encourage people to use these | Jun 13 00:45 |
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schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> This past weekend I've been hunting for RSS feeds. I'm shocked that some MSM sites became surprisingly small (very few original stories per day) | Jun 13 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, irc logs not posted yet | Jun 13 11:07 |
Techrights-sec2 | IRC logs posted | Jun 13 11:39 |
schestowitz-TR | thanks, I'll post Daily Links now | Jun 13 11:39 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm still trying to net more and more RSS feeds | Jun 13 11:39 |
schestowitz-TR | identifying sites and sections that cover relevant topics, then pursuing feeds for these | Jun 13 11:39 |
schestowitz-TR | I find a ton of interesting things along the way | Jun 13 11:39 |
schestowitz-TR | is there something sensitive in the list of feeds (1150 or so in total, after dupe removal)? i've been trying to make a repeatable process with sorting to | Jun 13 11:42 |
schestowitz-TR | change-control the list, potentially, but realise some reveals stuff about the collector's taste | Jun 13 11:42 |
schestowitz-TR | I used to spend days hunting for RSS feeds, there's no authoritative source of an "OPML central" (which incidentally can be like DMOZ but for XML) | Jun 13 11:42 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 11:47 |
Techrights-sec2 | the RSS feeds turn upwhen they turn up | Jun 13 11:47 |
schestowitz-TR | see /tmp/sorted-rss-feeds.txt | Jun 13 11:52 |
schestowitz-TR | output from list-rss-feed.sh | Jun 13 11:52 |
schestowitz-TR | just sent over as well | Jun 13 11:52 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 11:54 |
Techrights-sec2 | is that generated with the latest version of the script? | Jun 13 11:54 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe I changed the filename a bit | Jun 13 11:56 |
Techrights-sec2 | is that generated with the latest version of the script? | Jun 13 11:59 |
Techrights-sec2 | check Git | Jun 13 11:59 |
schestowitz-TR | thanks | Jun 13 11:59 |
schestowitz-TR | (markdown works ok with git, xml with ordered sets and unordered sets is not git territories, hence no opml) | Jun 13 11:59 |
schestowitz-TR | checking git | Jun 13 11:59 |
schestowitz-TR | hang on, trying to avert multitasking overload | Jun 13 12:02 |
schestowitz-TR | learning froma recent past mistake... | Jun 13 12:02 |
schestowitz-TR | I think a next chapter for us, which merits promotion, is the concept of moving away from cenralised platforms of all sorts and using rss to do the "legwo | Jun 13 12:02 |
schestowitz-TR | rk" | Jun 13 12:02 |
schestowitz-TR | which is not the same as gemini, in geminispace too there's a growing centralisation issue as some provide gemini "hosting" for "accounts" | Jun 13 12:02 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 12:02 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, pushed | Jun 13 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | people are lazy | Jun 13 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | or unfamiliar with rss | Jun 13 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | anything to lower the entry barrier can put them OFF social control media | Jun 13 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | they think they "need" that to know what's new | Jun 13 12:06 |
Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 13 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | "I recently discovered that my ISP was blocking the domain 'rt.com'. This is the domain of a 'sanctioned' media company, Russia Today. Prior to Russia invading Ukraine, this was a mainstream news source." gemini://gemini.susa.net/shocking_dns_nothingness.gmi | Jun 13 12:22 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | slippery slope | Jun 13 12:31 |
schestowitz-TR | 1. "pirate" sites (only after lengthy court battles, in some nations) | Jun 13 12:31 |
schestowitz-TR | 2. "news" source we do not agree with | Jun 13 12:31 |
schestowitz-TR | ... | Jun 13 12:31 |
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schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 13 13:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I've just added a newer (shorter) one | Jun 13 13:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I think this subject is rarely explored | Jun 13 13:34 |
schestowitz-TR | In Gemini drawing a fake table is the only way | Jun 13 13:34 |
schestowitz-TR | with ''' (slanted) | Jun 13 13:34 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 13:34 |
Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 13 13:34 |
Techrights-sec2 | a regular HTML table would work there | Jun 13 13:34 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 13:34 |
Techrights-sec2 | I seldom check youtube videos; even going in to specific known videos, | Jun 13 13:41 |
Techrights-sec2 | they are filled with ads and you have to interact with the ad to get | Jun 13 13:41 |
Techrights-sec2 | past it otherwise the video will not return. I'm a about completely | Jun 13 13:41 |
Techrights-sec2 | done with youtube | Jun 13 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | this morning while shaving I watched the latest video from robertson | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne makes fun of his voice, she cannot help it, says he sounds like female | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | his video showed not much on the screen, but he pastes together many "takes" | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | the video had little actual value because it was repetitive | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | basically, arch good, but not for everything, coz hard... | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | if you STILL want to watch youtube, do what rianne does and get librewold | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | for now, at least, it rids you from lots of the crap | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | she is glad to have lft firefox behind | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | partly because of the viewing experience, while it lasts... | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | afaik, yutube-dl and derivs are for downloading more than for streaming (yes, I know | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | those are similar) | Jun 13 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | if I see a video I really like, I download, keep, replay | Jun 13 13:42 |
Techrights-sec2 | mosty empty commentary from him though sometimes on rare occasion quite | Jun 13 13:43 |
Techrights-sec2 | insightful | Jun 13 13:43 |
Techrights-sec2 | but the arch video was not one of the good ones | Jun 13 13:43 |
Techrights-sec2 | youtube-dl still works most ofthe time but is very slow and can take an hour | Jun 13 13:43 |
Techrights-sec2 | for a video that might be skipped sometimes after seeing the first seconds | Jun 13 13:43 |
Techrights-sec2 | i see few of those and have no real way of properly cataloguing them | Jun 13 13:43 |
Techrights-sec2 | there are on occasion those that I would prefer to bring public attention to | Jun 13 13:43 |
schestowitz-TR | there needs to be a IA/Wayback Machine for video | Jun 13 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | I know they host videos, but that is not the same | Jun 13 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | a lot of videos we linked to or used in techrgihts over the years are just blank slot now | Jun 13 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | for some posts, the posts are rendered next to worthless, except near time of publicaiton | Jun 13 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | like those that link to Lunduke videos | Jun 13 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | he removed almost every video he ever made | Jun 13 13:46 |
Techrights-sec2 | that had been Youtube before it was purchased | Jun 13 13:47 |
Techrights-sec2 | LBRY is still there but is nearly 100% garbage, | Jun 13 13:47 |
Techrights-sec2 | because of URLs it is still possible to point to useful material there | Jun 13 13:47 |
Techrights-sec2 | but only if one comes in from the outside to a known good video | Jun 13 13:47 |
Techrights-sec2 | searching and browsing will only bring garbage there | Jun 13 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | LBRY seems like fakecoin inflation pump and dump | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | with 'free' hosting as bait | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | last night in gemini I saw a post about a similar platform that mandates you play the NFT spiel | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | just to be admitted inside | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | the way to go is peertube | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | but unless it's a popular video with many peers it's too slow to get going | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | even the blender instance of it was way too slow for me | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not try searching odysee, but I'm not too interested either | Jun 13 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | it doesn't work in my browser of choice | Jun 13 13:50 |
Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jun 13 13:51 |
Techrights-sec2 | I've not used peertube, it's too slow :/ | Jun 13 13:51 |
Techrights-sec2 | Odysee is just a UI for LBRY the same comment applies there plus it is infected | Jun 13 13:51 |
Techrights-sec2 | with gratuitious and useless javascript | Jun 13 13:51 |
schestowitz-TR | if the world's datacentres, CDNs and underwater cables can bear the load of gulagtube, netflix, iptv etc. then this is an allocaiton-of-capacity | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | issue rather than a real technocal peril | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | but "powers DAT BEEEE" like it the way it is and won't just give away the powers associated with centralisation and DRM | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | better yet, with p2p you free up a lot of untapped capacity og bluetooth and wifi | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | meshing for instance | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | but efficiency isn't a priority, even for the so-called "green agenda" politicians | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | they most resort to low-cost pandering with sound bites and distance-future promises, pledges | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | apropos, give each person a 5 TB drive with "content", inc. wikipedia in all language, you'll help the planet vastly more | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | than all those graft (boradbast access) programmes | Jun 13 13:55 |
schestowitz-TR | *brandband | Jun 13 13:55 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 13:55 |
Techrights-sec2 | YaCy tried that but could not gain traction | Jun 13 13:55 |
Techrights-sec2 | https://yacy.net/ | Jun 13 14:33 |
Techrights-sec2 | maybe after the mythical OS upgrade we can run an instance of YaCy at TR, | Jun 13 14:33 |
Techrights-sec2 | first for the site itself, later for documents pointed to in the daily links | Jun 13 14:33 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yacy.net | Home - YaCy | Jun 13 14:33 | |
schestowitz-TR | yes, more likle migration to a new container or VM | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | which depends on the network too being configured to point to the new one when it is ready | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | ipfs is a dht pollution machine | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | akin to shitcoin with merkle trees | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I've grown dissatisfied | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | the more you throw at it, the more it takes | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | until you push the limits of hardware and network | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | it's like a corporation :-) | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, more likle migration to a new container or VM | Jun 13 14:34 |
schestowitz-TR | which depends on the network too being configured to point to the new one when it is ready | Jun 13 14:34 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 14:56 |
schestowitz-TR | rss news have become calmer since not receiving microsofters in the feeds | Jun 13 14:57 |
schestowitz-TR | or spam or false positives | Jun 13 14:57 |
schestowitz-TR | I've just made some gemini fixes | Jun 13 14:57 |
schestowitz-TR | the trash there does exist, but it's not corporate trash | Jun 13 14:57 |
schestowitz-TR | just people with trash for brains sometimes | Jun 13 14:57 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 14:57 |
Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 13 14:58 |
schestowitz-TR | i also learned some git syntax in the process | Jun 13 15:00 |
schestowitz-TR | like how to watch a particular old version of a file | Jun 13 15:00 |
schestowitz-TR | git show commit-id:path-to-file/file | Jun 13 15:00 |
schestowitz-TR | I was trying to understand how a dupe in the imports crept in | Jun 13 15:00 |
schestowitz-TR | I tried to model an addition based on an existing one, forgot to delete the model | Jun 13 15:01 |
schestowitz-TR | didn't notice until now | Jun 13 15:01 |
schestowitz-TR | the page to use is AllInOne.gmi | Jun 13 15:01 |
schestowitz-TR | that compresses everything and organised it | Jun 13 15:01 |
Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 13 15:01 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 15:01 |
schestowitz-TR | had we used rss software that is extensible, it would be possible to do processing there too | Jun 13 15:02 |
schestowitz-TR | the automated feeds already do that to some degree, e.g. dupe detection | Jun 13 15:02 |
schestowitz-TR | also the spamSites.pm detection/matching | Jun 13 15:03 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 15:03 |
Techrights-sec2 | yes there is some caching in the RSS specification or at least a request | Jun 13 15:03 |
Techrights-sec2 | for how often is the maximum update frequency | Jun 13 15:03 |
schestowitz-TR | if impelemneted correctly, rss files are cheap to send, cheaper than most images | Jun 13 15:08 |
schestowitz-TR | cacing rss is very eay | Jun 13 15:08 |
schestowitz-TR | you only attach a trigger even to new "content" adds, modify the file once | Jun 13 15:08 |
schestowitz-TR | a page with 50 images in it should be more cumbersome for a server than 50 requests for the same rss feed | Jun 13 15:08 |
Techrights-sec2 | /if/ implemented correctly, some embed whole articles :/ | Jun 13 15:08 |
schestowitz-TR | giving full article rss is good practice | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | appreciate by many | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | appreciated | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | it can actually help performane | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | and lower toll on your site | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | because people do not go to the site to get css files sd such | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | full rss, full story text | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | the issue is, some fear it would be leveraged for scraping and plagiarism (as happens) | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | some sites cannot deal too well with relative paths (e.g. for images), so it also helps to have images and attachment as | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | "self-contained" | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | full story rss is terrible for metrics like "pageviews" | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | because some people onlye ven fetch xml filkes | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | and not even per-page xml | Jun 13 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | in those cases, one surrogate for view, assuming the rss reader can diusplay image, is number of requests for an image in that page/post | Jun 13 15:14 |
Techrights-sec2 | except that those badly done RSS feeds seem to fetch images too | Jun 13 15:14 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 15:14 |
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schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536377800835289088#m | Jun 13 17:31 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Stuff like this is why I have to do things like get @schestowitz to re-host their crazy ass blog posts for posterity: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Create-stickiness-with-IP-Microsoft-Partner-Network.pdf"|nitter.it | Jun 13 17:31 | |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536118999221735426#m | Jun 13 17:33 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog): "apparently MS has my tweets monitored so I do plan to finish live tweeting seasons 4, 5 and 6 of Dawson's Creek for their entertainment"|nitter.it | Jun 13 17:33 | |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536116460359192576#m | Jun 13 17:34 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog): "if u followed me for cybersecurity stuff, monday to fridays work hours i do boring cyber stuff, evenings is Love Island and Dawson's Creek, and Saturday and Sunday is video games."|nitter.it | Jun 13 17:34 | |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536118999221735426#m | Jun 13 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536378116137811968#m | Jun 13 17:34 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Totally a coincidence"|nitter.it | Jun 13 17:35 | |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1536253258821509120#m | Jun 13 17:35 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC in Slovenia, someone checked if the 2/3 majority requirement was followed, apparently not http://techrights.org/2022/06/12/another-reason-unified-patent-court-upc-is-a-hostile-coup-that-will-fail/"|nitter.it | Jun 13 17:35 | |
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schestowitz-TR | I am adding some changed that I've just tested successfull (first go) | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | successfully with a small caveat | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | that affects pages where you can have up to 365 days listed | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | and groups them into months | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, pushed | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | the changes are simple enough to be self-explanatory | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1536253258821509120#m | Jun 13 18:27 |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536377800835289088#m | Jun 13 18:27 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 18:29 |
Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 13 18:29 |
schestowitz-TR | I can clean my feeds a lot faster now, with gulkag removed | Jun 13 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | and want to garden things more | Jun 13 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | the highest priority iis OS migration, but there is a bottleneck who is in canada atm | Jun 13 18:30 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 18:30 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 18:30 |
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schestowitz-TR | LOL | Jun 13 19:16 |
schestowitz-TR | Mozilla does it again | Jun 13 19:16 |
schestowitz-TR | go to the Mozilla blog | Jun 13 19:16 |
schestowitz-TR | Maybe Moz thinks that Firefox users in subsaharan africa are a copy of SF/Bay Area | Jun 13 19:16 |
Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 13 19:16 |
Techrights-sec2 | link? | Jun 13 19:16 |
Techrights-sec2 | oh, I see. The themes of the interviews. Nothing about tech, it seems. | Jun 13 19:16 |
schestowitz-TR | wait, this sucks | Jun 13 19:19 |
schestowitz-TR | the eitorial presentation in the site and rss feed is not the same | Jun 13 19:19 |
schestowitz-TR | I need anothher 'angle' on this | Jun 13 19:19 |
schestowitz-TR | also see what I published re phoronix moments ago | Jun 13 19:19 |
schestowitz-TR | wow, mozilla does not advertise rss feedsat lacllk | Jun 13 19:19 |
schestowitz-TR | but plenty of buttons for facebook, twitter, gulag | Jun 13 19:19 |
schestowitz-TR | they don't give a shit about the web | Jun 13 19:19 |
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Techrights-sec2 | no rss feed, looked at https://blog.mozilla.org/en/latest/ instead | Jun 13 19:32 |
Techrights-sec2 | Mozilla is to the web what LF is now to Linux | Jun 13 19:32 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Latest - The Mozilla Blog | Jun 13 19:32 | |
schestowitz-TR | exactly! see my draft | Jun 13 19:32 |
schestowitz-TR | we thought the same | Jun 13 19:32 |
Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 13 19:32 |
Techrights-sec2 | probably ought to mention specifically what made Mozilla popular in the "old" | Jun 13 19:32 |
Techrights-sec2 | days | Jun 13 19:32 |
Techrights-sec2 | -- standards and a lean, modular, FOSS browser | Jun 13 19:32 |
schestowitz-TR | rephrased | Jun 13 19:44 |
schestowitz-TR | in draft | Jun 13 19:44 |
schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Coronavirus Celebrated Jubilee https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/13/covid19-celebrated-jubilee/ | Jun 13 19:50 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Coronavirus Celebrated Jubilee | Jun 13 19:50 | |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 19:53 |
schestowitz-TR | go celebrate with grandma liz (well, you paid for the party anyway... already.. through tax) | Jun 13 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR | don't worry if your own grandma died later because you gave her something | Jun 13 19:55 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 19:56 |
schestowitz-TR | across the road from us there is a stadium with ~50k seating capacity | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | not counting the pitch | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | they had 5 or 6 concerns here this month | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | eo you can estimate how many "kids" passed near us | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne did a lot of the trips to town for food | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | and she complained about how reckles these people are | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | you would not know we're worse off than summer 2020 and 2021 | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | I showed it in my blog | Jun 13 19:58 |
Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 13 19:58 |
Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jun 13 19:58 |
Techrights-sec2 | they are shortsighted and careless | Jun 13 19:58 |
schestowitz-TR | it might not kill them | Jun 13 19:59 |
schestowitz-TR | 'only' loved ones | Jun 13 19:59 |
schestowitz-TR | to covid-19 they are not just superspreaders | Jun 13 20:01 |
schestowitz-TR | but "SUPERNODES" | Jun 13 20:01 |
schestowitz-TR | they are conduits through which to reach more vulnerable human tissues | Jun 13 20:01 |
schestowitz-TR | but the media is "tried" of THAT crisis | Jun 13 20:01 |
schestowitz-TR | *tired | Jun 13 20:01 |
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schestowitz-TR | )just did some housekeeping in TM: test local backup, messages (syslog), mysql.log; all OK. Just needed the affirmation) | Jun 13 20:22 |
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