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| schestowitz-TR | as of one hour ago, lunduke is uploading his old videos to youtube.... en masse | Dec 13 02:12 |
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| techrightssec2 | :( | Dec 13 07:00 |
| techrightssec2 | I suppose many will be demonetized en masse for having the cheek to contain | Dec 13 07:00 |
| techrightssec2 | the string "Linux" in the title. | Dec 13 07:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder how that happened | Dec 13 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I did not even notice | Dec 13 07:13 |
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| psydruid | Is that because Google wants people to use ChromeOS over GNU/Linux? | Dec 13 08:35 |
| psydruid | And rather Windows or macOS over GNU/Linux too? | Dec 13 08:35 |
| psydruid | Because big money loves other big money? | Dec 13 08:35 |
| techrightssec2 | maybe the authorities don't want "too many" people to control their PCs and their files | Dec 13 08:36 |
| techrightssec2 | use clown storage | Dec 13 08:36 |
| techrightssec2 | no kodi | Dec 13 08:36 |
| techrightssec2 | embrace DRMa | Dec 13 08:36 |
| techrightssec2 | and make sure all people are empty vessels, "consumers" in socially CONTROLLED "media" | Dec 13 08:36 |
| psydruid | It's not going to work in the end | Dec 13 08:45 |
| psydruid | But the irony is that all the hardware that gives people the freedom they used to have comes out of China these days | Dec 13 08:46 |
| psydruid | As in both chips and boards | Dec 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | in many aspects, china has been world leader for years | Dec 13 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | even financially it has been getting there | Dec 13 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | us likes to fake the worth of its companies and "markets" | Dec 13 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | while some people buy $50m homes | Dec 13 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | yards away from trailer parks | Dec 13 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | of people who barely survive and die from simple diseases | Dec 13 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | in terms of military, russia can take on usa already | Dec 13 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but only if it brings out the nukes | Dec 13 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for chin | Dec 13 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | *china | Dec 13 09:04 |
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| psydruid | the megalomania of M$ has no bounds | Dec 13 10:30 |
| psydruid | I don't know of any other company in IT that wants to be everything to everyone | Dec 13 10:30 |
| psydruid | except for the rest of MAGMA | Dec 13 10:30 |
| psydruid | as if the world will come crashing down if they don't dominate everything | Dec 13 10:31 |
| psydruid | or at least try to | Dec 13 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | MAGMA :-) | Dec 13 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw others using it | Dec 13 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you coined it | Dec 13 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik | Dec 13 10:44 |
| psydruid | I did | Dec 13 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | GAFAM was made up by me and Assange | Dec 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | after some stupid european politicians said "GAFA" | Dec 13 11:03 |
| psydruid | with all these breaches and ransomware attacks you wonder for how long M$ will stay entrenched | Dec 13 11:18 |
| psydruid | any other company with their track record would have gone out of business a long time ago | Dec 13 11:19 |
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| techrightssec2 | There has been yet another corruption scandal in the EU Parliament. | Dec 13 12:00 |
| techrightssec2 | Considering that corruption is yet another threat to actual democracy, | Dec 13 12:00 |
| techrightssec2 | the same could be said of the corruption coming from and via the European | Dec 13 12:00 |
| techrightssec2 | Patent Office. | Dec 13 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | germany will defend it regardless | Dec 13 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | cash cow and all | Dec 13 12:00 |
| techrightssec2 | Yes, Germany's involvment there and its entanglement with M$ is part of the | Dec 13 12:01 |
| techrightssec2 | corruption pattern. | Dec 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | one word: munich | Dec 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | they even play off berlin bs munich | Dec 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | as hq | Dec 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos bribes, see my latest 3 posts in TR | Dec 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | very dodgy | Dec 13 12:02 |
| techrightssec2 | One point to remember is that m$, and thus perhaps sw patents, is not a matter | Dec 13 12:02 |
| techrightssec2 | of technical decisions, but one of political decisions and specifically about | Dec 13 12:02 |
| techrightssec2 | control and surveillance a la CIA and NSA. | Dec 13 12:02 |
| techrightssec2 | checking | Dec 13 12:02 |
| techrightssec2 | gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/13/sirius-open-source-or-foxconn/ | Dec 13 12:04 |
| techrightssec2 | gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/12/era-of-virtual-company/ | Dec 13 12:04 |
| techrightssec2 | gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/12/sirius-open-source-living-wage/ | Dec 13 12:04 |
| techrightssec2 | ? | Dec 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, the text should be sufficient | Dec 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who point out espionage aspects of "clown" computing are subjected to name-calling | Dec 13 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if they have a phd and a long track record researching this | Dec 13 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | also a former colleagu, treated similarly | Dec 13 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | along with his german partner | Dec 13 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | circa 2012 | Dec 13 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | he knoew about echelon and all | Dec 13 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was before nsa leaks and back when clown computing was still young | Dec 13 12:07 |
| techrightssec2 | Yep, ad hominen works despite being a logical fallacy, that's why microsoft's | Dec 13 12:08 |
| techrightssec2 | own Lennart Poettering used it as a backup to the appeal to novelty fallacy. | Dec 13 12:08 |
| techrightssec2 | He had nothing to offer except logical fallacies in regards to systemd. | Dec 13 12:08 |
| mjg59_ | Microsoft's actually at the forefront of making it possible to use Azure without having to trust Microsoft | Dec 13 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Dec 13 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my reading lists I still have some PDFs | Dec 13 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | but rarely a time to reopen, for now... | Dec 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still have 60,000+ unread comments in joindiaspora | Dec 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my email box (no need for the site to be online | Dec 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media is like that | Dec 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | so anyway, I still have some WBer story about companies that cancel people as a service | Dec 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but no hard evidence or material | Dec 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | just word of mouth from insider | Dec 13 12:10 |
| psydruid | Microsoft is at the forefront of stealing your data from Azure and using it for advertising | Dec 13 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft is at the forefront of hiring phonies to do marketing for them | Dec 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'secure' boot | Dec 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'confidential' computing | Dec 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | pluton | Dec 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | azuresurveillance | Dec 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | asurveillance :-) | Dec 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | DoD: give MOAR money to MSFT | Dec 13 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | we LOVE this data-harvesting | Dec 13 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | also pop a 10,000,000,000 dollar bailout to Jeff bezos... as gratitude for "Alexa" | Dec 13 12:24 |
| mjg59_ | The entire point of this technology is that Microsoft (and anyone else who implements it) provides a service that they have no insight into | Dec 13 12:25 |
| mjg59_ | I do understand scepticism of that! But it would help a great deal if you could express that through technical criticism | Dec 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I didn't know you since a decade ago, I'd say we have a Microsoft shill in IRC now | Dec 13 12:26 |
| mjg59_ | Google and Amazon are in the process of deploying the same tech | Dec 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | two heads of the same HYDRA(TM) | Dec 13 12:26 |
| mjg59_ | It's not a Microsoft-only thing, they're just ahead in terms of implementation atm | Dec 13 12:26 |
| mjg59_ | But anyone else could build the same | Dec 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm sure you'll promote illusion of "privacy" for them | Dec 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | because you did this before | Dec 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the media will go rah rah about clown "savings" | Dec 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "confidentiality" | Dec 13 12:27 |
| mjg59_ | AMD's SEV allows the creation of VMs that are secured by encryption keys that exist only in the CPU, not even visible to the hypervisor | Dec 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "give us all your national health and patient records next" | Dec 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | GAFAM, Oracle, IBM | Dec 13 12:27 |
| mjg59_ | The contents of RAM are encrypted, the hypervisor can only see the encrypted content | Dec 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do not see the machines | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do not control the machines | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do not own the machine | Dec 13 12:28 |
| mjg59_ | And there's an attestation path that allows you to prove that they're in this state | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you have NO control over what they do | Dec 13 12:28 |
| mjg59_ | So no, you don't see them, control them or own them | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for medical data for sure | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I'm out | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is going nowhere | Dec 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you promote NSA talking points | Dec 13 12:28 |
| mjg59_ | But if your VM attests to being in this state, the cloud provider has no ability to do anything to your VM other than just stop it running | Dec 13 12:29 |
| mjg59_ | They can't see the data in it | Dec 13 12:29 |
| mjg59_ | I'd recommend reading the spec! It's kind of complicated but worthwhile | Dec 13 12:29 |
| mjg59_ | You still need to trust AMD, but that would be true if you had AMD servers of your own | Dec 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol, home office seems to have opened duplicate files | Dec 13 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just double-charged | Dec 13 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they don't get very basic things right, then can you trust them for more critical things | Dec 13 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | like brexit or war politics? | Dec 13 12:38 |
| techrightssec2 | Is there a volume discount? :) | Dec 13 12:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | a month late they corrected the charging error | Dec 13 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but only after some nagging from lawyer | Dec 13 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "coalition of chaos" :) | Dec 13 12:39 |
| techrightssec2 | ack | Dec 13 12:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | techdirt spreading lies for Apple: "Apple has always been a market leader in user security." Huh??? Apple = NSA P | Dec 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | RISM and more. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/12/apple-angers-fbi-by-offering-more-privacy-and-security-to-us | Dec 13 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Apple Angers FBI By Offering More Privacy And Security To Users | Techdirt | Dec 13 14:16 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ers/ | Source: Techdirt | Dec 13 14:16 |
| techrightssec2 | ack | Dec 13 14:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ‘Long COVID’ Impacting Several Millions of Brits https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/13/long-covid-uk/ | Dec 13 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ‘Long COVID’ Impacting Several Millions of Brits | Dec 13 20:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | England and Wales Deaths in December 11.2% Higher in 2022 Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/13/post-covid-deaths-in-december/ | Dec 13 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » England and Wales Deaths in December 11.2% Higher in 2022 Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels | Dec 13 20:40 | |
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