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| Techrights-sec | Twitter may not actually have the numbers to back up the assertion that | May 14 07:04 |
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| Techrights-sec | only 5% of its "monetizable daily active users" are bots, spam, and other | May 14 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | fake accounts. | May 14 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | https://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130522.html#tMay%2013%2011:32:31https://techrights.org/irc-archives/ | May 14 07:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 13, 2022 | May 14 07:04 | |
| Techrights-sec | irc-log-techrights-130522.easy enough to add, once the OS upgrade takes place | May 14 07:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "monetizable daily active users" is doublespeak BS | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't want want to comment on BS | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember what I told you last month | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | after I had spent 13 years there | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | their def. of active users is meaningless | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "impressions" also | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | one example: i open page x about y | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | i scroll down through z1-20 tweets | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | then it expands with infinie scroll, z21-39 | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | did I jujst "read" 40 tweets? | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | No, but Twitter will inform the posters as such | May 14 07:07 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, the point there is that significantly more of their traffic is bots and | May 14 07:07 |
| Techrights-sec | spam | May 14 07:07 |
| Techrights-sec | they are misleading if not outright lying if they say they have more traffic | May 14 07:07 |
| Techrights-sec | from real people | May 14 07:07 |
| Techrights-sec | infinite scoll is a UI pox | May 14 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just woken up | May 14 07:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | part of my recent dream was, I was saying that when it comes to Russia a lot of traffic seems bot-like | May 14 07:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the example of anti-ooxml' petition | May 14 07:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wikileaks tweets about clinton-related leaks | May 14 07:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does seem like russians are good at scripting AND are actively deploying them aplenty | May 14 07:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was in my dream for some reason | May 14 07:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it was based on a truth | May 14 07:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also one way to game twitter | May 14 07:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make some things more visible than others | May 14 07:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 07:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | beforfe i get to the mornign task | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) maybe the intention was all along to invest, boost the stuck, then drop it | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and kill twitter | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on outriage, false expectations etc. | May 14 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | while profing from the preocess and getting a TON of free media coverage/brand name | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) the other dream I had was about many of us in the company ending up working for a museum somewhere | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the CEO getting banned | May 14 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | no videos or articles yesterday de to getting sucked into IRC plus trip plus TOC work | May 14 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's OK | May 14 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | IRC is busy today too, I try not to spend too much time there | May 14 07:20 |
| Techrights-sec | I think the TOC changes might be all settled | May 14 07:30 |
| Techrights-sec | (famous last words) | May 14 07:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, so far that has worked perfectly well | May 14 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and stress-tested too | May 14 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I posted 3 batches yesterday | May 14 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wanted to do video/article about LF BS | May 14 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but lacked the time | May 14 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | dreams interfere with reality | May 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's important to forget them fast | May 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I rarely have dreams of any value | May 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | i worry aboyt overfeeding the fish | May 14 08:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | they demand more and more lately | May 14 08:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | \ | May 14 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec | keep the fish on a strict diet they are one type of animal that can overeat | May 14 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec | to the point of death | May 14 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec | there should be a recommended dosage per feeding and a prescribed number | May 14 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec | of daily feedings in an authoritative reference work | May 14 08:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | just discussed this, we decided to limit again to once a day and moderate dosage | May 14 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | we think the last one died due to too much love (feeding) | May 14 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | which bloated the stomach | May 14 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec | fish also last only a few years in most cases so there will always be a | May 14 08:13 |
| Techrights-sec | lot of "turnover" in an established aquarium | May 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | with "Gold" we managed to exceed 6 years, IIRC | May 14 08:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it was tragic to lose her | May 14 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | four or five might bew the usual max for a goldfish, so well done in that case | May 14 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | though there are some varieties whichcan last much much longer | May 14 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | I think the small fish like zebras and tetras only last a few years | May 14 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | angel fish can last longer and are considered long-lived | May 14 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | I had some for a while and they had good eough conditions to lay eggs twice | May 14 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but not good enough conditions to not eat the eggs | May 14 08:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | now many of the eggs have hatched for the geese | May 14 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not all | May 14 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the parents are overprotective | May 14 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some need s distance while cycling | May 14 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I told rianne in some place you would have to pay for those experience, like canal side riding | May 14 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway we'll try to do this every week this season | May 14 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | we got like 30 packs of mozzarella cheese for quarter price | May 14 08:19 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | May 14 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | and swans don't like kayaks either so sometimes a very great distane is | May 14 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | needed with them too | May 14 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | is the cheese whole or shredded? If whole it might last a while but I think | May 14 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | you can freeze it | May 14 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | experience suggests they last over a week, it's a blob inside liquid | May 14 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we can do 2-3 per day | May 14 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | also got about 30 lemons | May 14 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | ,good for diet (lemon water and appetite) | May 14 08:21 |
| Techrights-sec | a fresh mozzarella, tasty stuff | May 14 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | recipes sent to rianne via pi | May 14 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have a good branded mixer that we rarely use | May 14 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | i bought it about 9 years ago | May 14 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | turned out making cakes makes me fatter, fast | May 14 08:30 |
| schestowitz | I reached around 96kg in this trip http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Chester | May 14 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Chester | May 14 08:32 | |
| schestowitz | apropos,, we're fast approaching 5 million views in the album | May 14 08:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, I had to squeeze the tummy in for those photos | May 14 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never reahced 100kg, but got close at one point | May 14 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe sleep will improve soon, with consistent time slot and fewr of them | May 14 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still negotiable until July when finalised | May 14 08:36 |
| Techrights-sec | it's hard to stay active enough when spending time on the compurer | May 14 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can still become rcreative | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | like demanding "sets" | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. doing the shotput stuff and boxing or cruouches when proofreading articles | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and stair climbs when you go up for the WC | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use the sofa behind me to lay down the ball inside a pillowcase | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | hopefully it won't tear over time, lots of pressure on the fabric | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | proofreading is very hands-off usually, just need to move the eyes, can set to large font | May 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | in winter it is 2-in-1 | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | body temp offset and exercise | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will likely move to the same room as rianne and her computers in November | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it helps seal off and build up warmth, without any power sources other than internal combustion and computers | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | that helps the fish, too | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can feel the heat of tyhe raspi | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the finger is near the board | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's mostly 'naked' but not exposed to bodily movement of falls | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | *or falls | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still want to prepare (upfront, a prioru) a video where I configure rianne's pi | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | to self-host gemini and maybe httpd, inc. router config and domain registration | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | *priori | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot do it without many pauses and mistakes | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a lot of editing | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is painful (if you ever did that, ypou would know how wasteful that is) | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | DTP afaik only made one short edited clip | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | as an editor/director was never found, only pursued | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | making the raw footage is the easier part | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | kiethcu (microsofter) | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | keith curtus | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | make a decent film | May 14 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that took him years | May 14 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 08:53 |
| Techrights-sec | editing might be the faster way to produce that kind of video | May 14 08:53 |
| Techrights-sec | at the very least it is helpful to crop out the long waits, if there are any | May 14 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | openshot is OK | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I struggled a lot with kdenlive | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and tried a few others, which lacked features | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | for each minute of video taken | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might expect x10 more times spent on editing | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | uploading is mechanical | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and doing text for it | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the editing is a pain in the bum | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you eatch gulagtube videos bear in mind a good ten-minute clip can be a day's worth | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | *work | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. preparation | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | i was amused and shows rianne how robertson was seaming together bits of video every 30 seconds or so | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the funny point where his hair "suddently" changes | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gets all organised | May 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | very distracting | May 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | they fix the lighting and position | May 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the body, without some blurring transition would have weird "jumps" | May 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | voice is not a problem because of pauses | May 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's very little RoI | May 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the investment is VAST | May 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | my shift ends in 3 mins | May 14 08:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec | that kind of hopping in the video is done on purpose and part of what seems | May 14 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec | to come from tiktok. the media here seems to be hiring a few 'tiktokers' | May 14 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec | in place of reporters and when you have an unedited live stream all the stupid | May 14 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec | contortions and shakes they do with their face and head look extra stupid | May 14 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec | I suspect it is part of the conditioning to cause people's attention spans | May 14 09:01 |
| Techrights-sec | to shrink to single digits as measured in seconds | May 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I firmly believe that at the end people will choose substance | May 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | over mindless BS and concision for attention span's sake | May 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, gulagtube sets 10-minute limits on many accounbts | May 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe that has changed, depends on account status | May 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not been keeping up | May 14 09:02 |
| Techrights-sec | it may take a lost generation or two for that to happen and society is on | May 14 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | shakey legs as it is and might not get through those down decades | May 14 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | yes google's storage costs only go up while the income is at best variable | May 14 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | but not necessarily increasing enough to match | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube now flirts with a non-business model | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | flag chinese channels | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | ban russian channels | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | then hope the "service" to the US taxpayers will yield conpulsory bursaries | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hololens" LOL | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | From Halo to Kabul | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | same thing | May 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "aimbots" | May 14 09:06 |
| Techrights-sec | xxxxx | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ^wrong link | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | https://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/ | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | just the disks alone are ~20 USD per TB and that does not count the data centre | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | and electricity costs along with staffing | May 14 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-edwardbetts.com | Price per TB | May 14 09:11 | |
| Techrights-sec | hololens, like other M$ products, underperforms and overcosts | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | the military employees don't so much worry about cost as they | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | do about whether it works or not; however the military planners like high costs | May 14 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | and misfunctional devices since it means more money | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | 4a) server maintenance and replacement scchedule | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | f1) cooling or redistribution of heat | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | j1) anti-SEO and other semi-technical defensive measures | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | maybe if they go the route of facebook and start to mainly sell influence and | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | manipulation | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | that'd dovetail nicely with targeted ads | May 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | though the ad targeting is done stupidly | May 14 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | thinking aloud (hypothetical) | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) technical staff | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) managers | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) routers | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) servers | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | e) isp/backbone | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | f) electric (up shraply) | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | g) insurance | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | h) replication (costx# of DCs) | May 14 09:13 |
| Techrights-sec | 4a) server maintenance and replacement scchedule | May 14 09:13 |
| Techrights-sec | f1) cooling or redistribution of heat | May 14 09:13 |
| Techrights-sec | j1) anti-SEO and other semi-technical defensive measures | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | i) hot spares | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | j) moderators | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | k) lawyers + lawsuits | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | l) dmca cookie jar | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | m) moderators sue for exposure to nasty shit | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | n) developers ("upgrade" to platform) | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | income sources: | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) ads | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is no b. | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they do a+a+a+a+a | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the "creators" and "useds" flee, over time | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like twitter in augiust 2018 | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | toby (furnaceboy) was royally pissed off | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | as he had developed a very good twitterbot | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | which undermined their"curation" | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and made it plain text, in real time, over irc:// protocol | May 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to keep reminding rianne (relatives whose finances implide) | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | just running a business does not, in its own right, imply success | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many run off of debt | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | or someone's long-earned debt | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | or dfuture debt | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | *long-earned savings | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | or future debt-slavery | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | after shutting down shop | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd rather have no business of my own then operate a money sink/drain | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | *then | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | >than | May 14 09:15 |
| Techrights-sec | no, even before the dotcom era, the stats were that something like 90% of small | May 14 09:16 |
| Techrights-sec | business went under during their first 2 years | May 14 09:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 09:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | rianne was brainwashed into all this "start a business" BS | May 14 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | people are told they'd earn "respect" | May 14 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many think that when company a is sold founders A-Z each share the cost of the "sale" as net | May 14 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | financial gain | May 14 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if that was true, Monty and David Axelsomething would be billionaires now | May 14 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | going through the musk Daily Links now | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | shit, I really should have boughtn popcorn | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | evern full price | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe Trump will get is revenge on Twitter | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | saying trump would return was alone damaging | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe musk already sold his shares by then | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | SEC investigating | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | toothless tiger | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so now one man decides when TWTR or whatever the ticker symbol is | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | goes up | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when it goes down | May 14 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | icahn with hair plugs | May 14 09:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | May 14 09:24 |
| Techrights-sec | SEC has no effect, not since years ago | May 14 09:24 |
| Techrights-sec | same for DOJ | May 14 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | many savers' accounts are tied to these pump-n-dump schemes/scams | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, shitcoins are no joke | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | their demise will hurt many victims of the scheme plotters | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are vulnerable to FOMO | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | tonight rianne will help 'bail out' her in-law's business | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | we argued about this for weeks | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sister is married to a total idiot | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | left her nursing career in singapore and too late to come back to it now | May 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I nwarned against this very strongly, hate to be right.... | May 14 09:30 |
| Techrights-sec | May 14 09:31 | |
| Techrights-sec | :( | May 14 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec | bailout == buyout == assuming ownership | May 14 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, most people dislike being reminded of warnings and like to pretend that | May 14 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec | disaster was not only unforseen but unrelated to their own actions and decisions | May 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | re ownership, we do get something out of it | May 14 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot being re-registered under our name | May 14 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I don't want that lot | May 14 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not probable we'll make any use of it | May 14 09:33 |
| Techrights-sec | be sure to limit liability; minimize risk and maximize ROI bailout means | May 14 09:34 |
| Techrights-sec | you own future profits, if any | May 14 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a bailout per se | May 14 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | asset-stripping | May 14 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but assets we have no real use for | May 14 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | to buy a little time | May 14 09:35 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | May 14 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it can boomerang | May 14 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one thing I love about the pandemic and energy crisis | May 14 09:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | is that it left exposed many "big shot" charalatans | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | who could no longer keep up apperances | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and pretend, like total imposters, with face-saving excuses | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they lost everything | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fast | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | for one thing, banksters become more conservative in lending | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday we rode past the empty homes again | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I told rianne, nobody buys this shit | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe some foreign "developer" | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | wrongly assuming that price can only go up over time | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | hundreds of nice housing units | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but who woul;d buy | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | BillBC admits we have "recession" | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't access that site anymore | May 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "In Sweden there's a sort of unemployment fund you can opt in to paying to if you're in a labour union. If and when you lose your employment you will be entitled to payouts from this fund in lieu of a salary." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-14-unemployment-agency-hassle.gmi | May 14 09:41 |
| Techrights-sec | the buildings seem to be empty because the rules favor sitting on empty real | May 14 09:42 |
| Techrights-sec | estate over keeping it in use | May 14 09:42 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | May 14 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | there's another round of blaming 'piracy' for failed business models but since | May 14 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | the politicians gain traction for dracionian laws at the same time they don't cacall out the bullshit | May 14 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | did netflix consider selling popcorn? | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am seeing the dr links now | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | people will always need food | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there are more people over time | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should bcome s popcorn company | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if they fail, they can blame popcorn-sharing | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | "piracy tax" = bailout in new clothing | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if we are collectively indebted to people who just hire more lobbyists | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | brandon (? iirc) left netflix, probably foreseeing what becomes apparent now | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for Dick Hondahl (or Dreck) with VMware | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | just before their lousy financial performance and new Linux FUD campaign | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I want nothing to do with this! Goodbye! I'm off to the fakecoin dudes, to legitimise them" | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | my employer: we are doing great, email propaghanda campaign | May 14 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | in person: oh, we need to reduce hours | May 14 09:52 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> UK COVID-19 Deaths Continue to Rise While Government Uses Data/Information Blackout to Hide the Trend http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/14/uk-deaths-covid-19-total/ | May 14 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Deaths Continue to Rise While Government Uses Data/Information Blackout to Hide the Trend | May 14 10:01 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 10:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | all of today gzips are OK | May 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never found a way to pipe out the output from gzip -d or gunzip to a file | May 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | -t automation is there but output goes nowhere | May 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | kaniini never got back to me | May 14 10:24 |
| Techrights-sec | it would be a redirection not a pipe | May 14 10:29 |
| Techrights-sec | gzip -c -d file.gz > file2 | May 14 10:29 |
| Techrights-sec | I hope he is ok, he did mention 'soon' | May 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, moving countries while working full time is tough | May 14 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | when was "soon" last mentioned? Before or after easter? | May 14 10:30 |
| Techrights-sec | I hope he is ok, he did mention 'soon' | May 14 10:30 |
| Techrights-sec | I don't recall, but it was at least two weeks ago | May 14 10:30 |
| Techrights-sec | who knows / cares as long as Twitter goes away | May 14 10:35 |
| Techrights-sec | if he can gain money out of doing so, it is dead already | May 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope "Elon" succeeds at that | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | eve nif he bags money in the process | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | if Twitter dies, it'll scare FB shareholders too | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | "meta-shareholders" LOL | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | when one personal gains capital another loses | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | hoplolens = borrowing from future generations | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | graft, bailout, looting, fraud | May 14 10:36 |
| Techrights-sec | s/borrowing/stealing/ | May 14 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, don't woorry. they will pay back, just like goldeman sachs did | May 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | except microsoft does not promise to pat anything back | May 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they "deserve it" | May 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Misguided Security Theatre • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164825 | May 14 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Misguided Security Theatre | Tux Machines | May 14 10:46 | |
| Techrights-sec | yep M$ has a lot of proxies thowing shade of FOSS implying that security | May 14 10:47 |
| Techrights-sec | is worse | May 14 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | zemlin is married to a money lover and is not technicalk | May 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he can neither chanllenge this nor is he willing | May 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | linus shows what happens when you let an idiot be your boss | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | linus could set up his own thing | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | like fsf | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and be the chief | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust? FUCK OFF! "STFU" as he says... | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | he basically demoted himself to employee | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and around his formed a multi-million dollar operation throwing just 3% of the money into Linux | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and spending some of the time on anti-Linux activities | May 14 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | [00:16] <techrights-news> Linux Foundation is, in a nutshell, suits and nontechnical people exercising totalitarian control an authority over technical people, using capital as a weapon | May 14 10:52 |
| Techrights-sec | yes a microsofter | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | that alone is a conflict of interest that renders him ineligble for *any* | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | employment at the LF | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | the worse part of the LF situation is that it is as Bruce peren described, | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | a GPL infringers club. I'd add that instead of advancing and promoting linux | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | it does the reverse by representing its partneres / members interests | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | inside Linux instead of the other way around. The change came right before | May 14 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | they eliminated the community representatation from the board. | May 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | daniel p started picking on lf | May 14 10:56 |
| schestowitz | latest: https://fsfellowship.news/vmware-gpl-linux-foundation-reneged-on-conservancy-funding/ | May 14 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfellowship.news | VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding | May 14 10:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | sooner rather than later PF will need to waste the lion's share of budget on self-defense PR | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than any productive work | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they already seem to be reacting quickly to publications of TR | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's difficult to prove | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | same when lunduke wrote about them | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybew they reckon bribing christine, sjvn etc will suffice | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just rob these people off their credibility | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | sjvn did n lf puff piece last night | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | funded by lf (his employer) | May 14 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | employer's sponsor | May 14 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | everything can be spun | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | thing we cannot and must not do: | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | mention sheela zemlin in articles (irc is fair play) | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it would be spun as "harassment" | May 14 11:03 |
| Techrights-sec | everything can be spun | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | or anything about the cto and the other GM who died young last year | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | lunduke tends to touch some of the most toxic things and daniel does too | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes them vulnerable imho | May 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | when was Linus last seen in public (footage)? | May 14 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think >1 year ago | May 14 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually the reactions, even in lwn, are astonishment | May 14 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | about deterioration | May 14 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be rude if I downloaded videos of linus off of gulagtube | May 14 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | to show footage of him over the years | May 14 11:06 |
| Techrights-sec | yep the coup has been hard on him, and that was one of the goals of the coup | May 14 11:06 |
| Techrights-sec | they want him gone one way or another | May 14 11:06 |
| Techrights-sec | fram captures over even the last 10 years would be shockin | May 14 11:06 |
| Techrights-sec | g | May 14 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | out of curiousity alone (time-consuming) I will look for latest footage or appearance | May 14 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe a good time to remind people of this aspect | May 14 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to refine gulag images by dates | May 14 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in gulagtube more feasible | May 14 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | yes their search is intentionally quite bad | May 14 11:08 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I found a better approach | May 14 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | remind people what he USED to look liker | May 14 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | AND what he believed | May 14 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | for contrasts | May 14 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | pre-LF | May 14 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | working on it... | May 14 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | May 14 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | hmm... video encoded at 48k not 44k | May 14 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | will need to correct this | May 14 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | his voice pitch is not right | May 14 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you can hear the file I will override soon (or overwrite) | May 14 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | see if you can find typos | May 14 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes, incorrect pitch helps avoid automatic YouTube censorship. | May 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's one way around the police playing music to stop you from uploading to YouTube. You can change the pitch to where you can still hear everything that's being said, but the copyright crap won't work. | May 14 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but we do not have that problem | May 14 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol, I have just realise that the gif preview makes him look like a swwayingf penguin | May 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | not intentionally | May 14 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | May 14 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | s/mail/mail server/ | May 14 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixed | May 14 11:42 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VvuxpM1q7yk | May 14 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds 24 June 2021 plenary speech on Climate Law - Invidious | May 14 11:45 | |
| Techrights-sec | people age a lot in their late 40s usually but his appearance has changed | May 14 11:45 |
| Techrights-sec | more drastically and in just a few years | May 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XfEmpb9HkM8 | May 14 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds 14 September 2021 plenary speech on Fit for 55 package - Invidious | May 14 11:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/vi/j_nA9DeNCY4/mqdefault.jpg | May 14 11:46 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=j_nA9DeNCY4 | May 14 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds 06 October 2021 plenary speech on energy poverty - Invidious | May 14 11:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9d3F5THkcB8 | May 14 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds 24 March 2022 plenary speech on sustainable energy - Invidious | May 14 11:47 | |
| Techrights-sec | yes his father is a well respected politician | May 14 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | Does Nils know that Microsoft will be CARBON-NEUTRAL(TM) by 2099? | May 14 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and its pollution is actually warming up the homes of Finns? | May 14 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KN70VZy693k | May 14 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Linus Torvalds talks about Elon Musk (Tesla) - Invidious | May 14 11:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR | looks to me like Linus has not appeared publily since sitting there with Dreck Hondahl like a Mascot for Jim, Sheela | May 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and her employets ;-) | May 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | misleadign clickbait | May 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | "based off on minix" ??? (Inspired by) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2A-x3kdB_-0 | May 14 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Linus Torvalds Video Project - Invidious | May 14 11:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | i did not know his parents divoriced when he was young | May 14 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and grew with grandparents | May 14 11:56 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pG5bC1Ac2dQ | May 14 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | You won't believe what the creator of Linux (Linux Torvalds) does now! - Invidious | May 14 11:59 | |
| Techrights-sec | microsoft was involved in spreading lies about minix and linux | May 14 11:59 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I cannot find any more recent video | May 14 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lack of visibility canh be a product of subconscious lack of desire to be seen | May 14 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | like if he gained more weight and does not want to lose any before a public event | May 14 12:01 |
| Techrights-sec | yes he has been keeping a rather low profile even before the SARS-CoV-2 | May 14 12:02 |
| Techrights-sec | pandemic started | May 14 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the endemic started 12 months after he was shamed/demoted/warned (they "helped" him) | May 14 12:02 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Xk7kaIN10CU | May 14 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Internationella Downs syndrom dagen 21.3 - Invidious | May 14 12:03 | |
| schestowitz | one week ago | May 14 12:04 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J3nSvNhZr0M | May 14 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Speech in Committee on Environment Public Health and Food Safety - Invidious | May 14 12:04 | |
| schestowitz | seems like Nils has become more famous than Linus | May 14 12:04 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IRZkOUfee_A | May 14 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | ENVI commitee 14/2/2022 - Invidious | May 14 12:05 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | even photos are difficult to find | May 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | even just to make a point | May 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | quote a few from TR showing up | May 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I give up, no chance short of paparazzi | May 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he just appears like an enigma every sunday night for rc or final | May 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | with occasional messages to people who propose code | May 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now his father outshines him in pmpact | May 14 12:15 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me know if you can thinkj of effective ways to respond to LF pseudo-sec charade | May 14 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | we already did some articles tackling these issues | May 14 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I want to respond somehow, without giving them exposure | May 14 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I found some videos of ZemlinD | May 14 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's dry and worthless | May 14 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | revisionist history | May 14 12:30 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have n idea... | May 14 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | once torvalds is marginalized, he can be forgotten, then he can be removed, so seems to be the LF plans for him | May 14 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ffs, he's only like 8 years older than rianne | May 14 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, git releases are now managed by microsofty | May 14 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | with official links going to shithub | May 14 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody talks about how inadequate that is | May 14 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | they now have this job title called "Chief Revenue Officer" | May 14 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know what such a job used to be called | May 14 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | does the phrase "who wears the pants" offend? | May 14 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll avboid the "pants" thing | May 14 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | too stereotypical | May 14 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | May 14 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | marketeering and selling out to vendors | May 14 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | ak | May 14 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | isn't LF supposed to be a non-profit anyway? | May 14 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | incomeing | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | she might be earning more than Jim | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | see early draft | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell me if it sounds rude esp. | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | to mitigate ad hom | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | you ask a fair question | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) no IRS filings in years | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) they bombard the wires for days on the same say I pointed this out and showed Jim deleted all his tweets | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | (could be a coincidnece) | May 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | does the draft seem crass? | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | should I add more? | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm minimal on words | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | heavier on evidence | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd rather not name the past employeers | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the latest is more inmcriminating, so past employers can detract | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | coincidence or not it is an active maneuver to avoid transparency and | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | accountability | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | salary difference is to be expected, since he is ostensibly working | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | for a non-profit. So it is not an appropriate topic. However, her | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | or distract | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | employer /is/ a relevant topic since that is clearly a conflict of interest | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | is the tone of this post OK? | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | to be taking money from companies tighly associated with Linux's single most | May 14 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | nastiest competitor | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i amk thinking a step ahead here | May 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just asked rianne to review this | May 14 13:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | at first she said, what's the connection | May 14 13:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then she looked more closely | May 14 13:09 |
| Techrights-sec | The extra step can be cut out and the conflict of interest be addressed | May 14 13:09 |
| Techrights-sec | directly | May 14 13:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I've shown enough for people to draw their own conclusion | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not mention her full name | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know her pre-matrimony name and have an old abckup of her portfolio | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case she later hides things | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope you at least realise why we need to approach the subject like this | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I do maintain evidence | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's better to wait for the shot | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then show footage of the smoke | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's the flashlight/cockroaches analogy | May 14 13:15 |
| Techrights-sec | it'll still cause a distraction from the conflict of interest aspects | May 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | apamnil has not "bought" some views for gulagtube since almost a week ago | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, sheela and him are no strangers | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | like you said, marketeering | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | MARKTware | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "select the videos you want to boost and enter amount" | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "click next for checkout" | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter has similar things | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | both offifial and not official | May 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'\ve justs hrunk tmux | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | *shrunk | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | these groupies are conspiring | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we need to give enough "light" editorials | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to help people see that | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hope that the backlash will impede that agenda | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil uses "racism" and "trump" to pretend to be the victim | May 14 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil to client: "don't worry, this is totally normal. On the first few days you are seen by just 2 dozen people.. | May 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | then come a thousand through the gate... also for all ADJACENT videos" | May 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | client: "ooooh... kay? makes snese??" | May 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could show the scam in more ways | May 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | by screenshots | May 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think I did sufficent work on that | May 14 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and goig further would open up to "obse4ssion" allegations | May 14 13:24 |
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| schestowitz | echo -ne "gemini://skyjake.fi/~Cosmos/\r\n\r\n" | openssl s_client -servername skyjake.fi -quiet -ign_eof -connect skyjake.fi:1965 | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | depth=0 CN = skyjake.fi | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | verify error:num=18:self signed certificate | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | verify return:1 | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | depth=0 CN = skyjake.fi | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | verify return:1 | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | 59 Gemini disallows request content | May 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | same at your end? His cert seems invalid perhaps | May 14 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | or he blocks this | May 14 16:31 |
| Techrights-sec | works fine with amfora but not openssl | May 14 18:25 |
| Techrights-sec | 59 Gemini disallows request content | May 14 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | First time a capsule does this to me | May 14 18:25 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that's some extra programming on his end | May 14 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder if another approach would work | May 14 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure. Gemini is a bit unfamiliar | May 14 18:31 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it works in Debian 10 but not 11 | May 14 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe openssl version | May 14 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | actually same version | May 14 19:25 |
| Techrights-sec | could be | May 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec | the problem also manifests in LibreSSL 3.5.2 | May 14 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I get the same issue with anothe capsule now | May 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec | the problem also manifests in LibreSSL 3.5.2 not just OpenSSL 1.1.1o 3 May 2022 | May 14 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have the same version on my desktop and can run: | May 14 19:29 |
| schestowitz | openssl s_client -quiet -crlf \ | May 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz | -servername skyjake.fi \ | May 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz | -connect skyjake.fi:1965 \ | May 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz | | awk '{ print "response: " $0 }' | May 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz | gemini://skyjake.fi/~Cosmos/ | May 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that would not work from the pi | May 14 19:30 |
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| Techrights-sec | there must be some difference somehow | May 14 19:59 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | May 14 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I've come back to it a couple of mins ago | May 14 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, it's like, "come on" | May 14 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried with a different env and account on the pi | May 14 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | oddly enough the "old" syntax on my desktop would not worth with it either | May 14 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | One thing I noticed is, in lagrance is complaints about the certiciface a bit | May 14 20:00 |
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| schestowitz-TR | works OK in latest kde neon | May 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've notice that quite a few of these aggregators include TR | May 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | which gives us more visibility | May 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | this one I wish to solve to extend the scope of visibility in geminispace | May 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought it would be trivial | May 14 20:12 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 20:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | upgrading packages (standard) ont he pi, libssl1.1 has a patch | May 14 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I ran the commands without quiet a few times | May 14 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | no obvious clues there | May 14 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but regardless it's overdue for system update | May 14 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the server lib is from 25 mar 2021 | May 14 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one on the desktop march 2022 | May 14 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe skyjake uses some ratehr recent version of the lib | May 14 20:31 |
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| schestowitz-TR | 0/ | May 14 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's hope all those package upgrades won't disrupt services | May 14 20:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 20:57 |
| Techrights-sec | no idea | May 14 20:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | May 14 20:57 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Now I have identical versions of openssl and sasame build day in pi and lapto | May 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they handle dofferently ther request, still | May 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least I've updated the whole system | May 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had to restart the gemini-proxy | May 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so far the rest seems to be working OK | May 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I foudn a workariund: run under sh, not bash | May 14 23:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I can only get to it in interactive mode | May 14 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems likely he just tried to block some bots | May 14 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hence all this mess | May 14 23:53 |
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