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| schestowitz-TR | only automated links today or an accient? | Jun 14 08:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I've just restarted httpd on TM, it was not responding for at least half an hour | Jun 14 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 14 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | error. the manual links got folded into yesterday's manual links if I read | Jun 14 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the metadata correctly | Jun 14 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | regarding links, what to do? | Jun 14 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | regarding TM: I see it was down for almost 2 hours, but at least not very busy times | Jun 14 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not sure, but there are only 28 links from yesterday's file and 1 from today's | Jun 14 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 1~07:32 tux machines We failed to reach a server. | Jun 14 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :/ a bug in the monitor script here | Jun 14 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no lights / buzzer | Jun 14 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tux machines 13:44, tux machines 04:18, tux machines 05:40 | Jun 14 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | according to the limited logs here, TM was not unvailable for the entire | Jun 14 09:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | interval but only parts of it, however it is likely that performace was | Jun 14 09:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | degraded the whole interval | Jun 14 09:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | also found a loose cable here | Jun 14 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can catch it fast if I am awake | Jun 14 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, how to best deal with the links? I've begun going through the automated ones | Jun 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I would say diff the one from yesterday as it is currently on the server | Jun 14 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | versus the one you have there | Jun 14 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, so I went to the server, got the 13-06 file | Jun 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the links in there were already posted yesterday, I checked one by one | Jun 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so if you added any more, I'm not seeing them | Jun 14 09:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I am not following your instructions correctly | Jun 14 09:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not sure, I thought I added quite a few but see only the one in today's | Jun 14 10:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | manual links | Jun 14 10:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | oh well | Jun 14 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | what I got was about 6 "other links", the automated section, and nothing at the top, just "error 1" or something to that effect | Jun 14 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we can resurrect lost editing work, great. If not, OK. But I just wanted to explain what I got at my end and I did | Jun 14 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | check the server again. | Jun 14 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there should be 28 manual links | Jun 14 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I hope this is not a bug in the process / scripting | Jun 14 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's correct | Jun 14 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hmm. Let me check again. | Jun 14 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there should be 28 manual links | Jun 14 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I hope this is not a bug in the process / scripting | Jun 14 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday'a (13-06) file had over 20, those were already added yesterday morning | Jun 14 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's (14) have some error message at the top, then automated starts | Jun 14 10:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It says '1 error" | Jun 14 10:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking ... | Jun 14 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, yes, that's what I saw. I assume there's an input file for that part and maybe it can be salvaged. | Jun 14 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | off-topic rant: when I read news links about inequality and then patents, esp. on vaccines, I am reacting more strongly | Jun 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | than all this insurrection stuff. The latter is a national issue -- in a place I long ago gave up on | Jun 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe one day we'll be back to covering patent issues more closely, but at the moment the press treats it like something not to | Jun 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | even be questioned and therefore it's difficult to find any real, authentic journalism on the msatter | Jun 14 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I relative terms you and I are quite young, still, so have several decades left to tackle these issues | Jun 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think the attacks on the Internet are very disturbing atm, inc. dns | Jun 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | health is a relative thing | Jun 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not in perfect shape | Jun 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the body responds positively to high spirits | Jun 14 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | [(low stress etc., determination) | Jun 14 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | found the error(s), | Jun 14 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | re-uploading (but will have to track down the second of the two errors) | Jun 14 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | perhaps | Jun 14 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's not so much an error as an edge case brought on by some changes not that | Jun 14 10:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | long ago | Jun 14 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my latest commit there's an 'edge case' where the last time gemini server reboot happens on first of the month | Jun 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | in which case the stats page may show month name before the line with the uptime stats | Jun 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is not a big deal, nor is it likely to happen a lot | Jun 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it scans for MM-DD | Jun 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | edge cases are best off detected and tackled if each repeated occurrance leads to a lot of head-scratching | Jun 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they are well known and understood, less head-scratching ;-) | Jun 14 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | clarification needed: seems like in latest uploaded file there are the automated links | Jun 14 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then again the automated links for (? I think ?) same "so far today" | Jun 14 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if it was reraun and then retrieve links that would otherwise be included in tomorrow's batch | Jun 14 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | iow, everything after line 647 will repeat itself tomorrow? | Jun 14 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in a POSIX shell, if an element of a pipe files, nothing happens even when -e | Jun 14 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is set | Jun 14 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jun 14 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | for now I will just focus on the manually curated part and then posy the first batch ot today, yesterday we posted an all-time | Jun 14 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | record of five | Jun 14 11:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | already using tmp files, what's one more :/ | Jun 14 11:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok it shold be fixed, thanks for spotting the bug, it was well hidden | Jun 14 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am using the file uploaded about an hour ago to grab and fuse in those ~28 links | Jun 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | some more manual work required, but a lot less than it takes to find and organise sduch links in the first place | Jun 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm still tyring to get used to the new routine | Jun 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hopefully post around a dozen posts per day | Jun 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | (it is only difficult because of 4.6 shifts at work per week, might change soon) | Jun 14 11:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | a new merged file has been uploded | Jun 14 11:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ^uploaded | Jun 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I already cleaned the file, which lacked the curated stuff, prior to you fixing the bug, so afaik all that was missing: the first part | Jun 14 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | victim-blaming comes in many forms | Jun 14 11:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yep | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are "winning" [sic] when there is widespread understanding that certain lies are just lies, such as "WoMD in Iraq" or "patents" as surrogate | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | for "innovation" | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody takes this shirt seriously, certainly not patent examiners | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | *this shit | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they say so themselves | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they also don't buy the bullishit about "S.A.P." -- lowering salaries while the banks... I mean PATENT OFFICE< nets more money than ever | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | expect epo examiners to prolong the industrial action until next year | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they survey for consent from staff | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | they refuse to be rubber-stamping operators | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is GOOD | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope USPTO will follow | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but US is a union-busting beast | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and afaik, uspto workers have no union | Jun 14 11:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I wish them very much success in their actions to clean up the office | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | another point which imho we should get across | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | is that a lot of tech is riding "defence" budget or "oil" or similar | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that those companies are not doing as well as they claim | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and their platforms are bubbles | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking to do something to us | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | oracle is alsom trying to latch onto medical data now | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | you saw it about the same time I did, different articles | Jun 14 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | bail us out (they don't say that, not like this) or "PEOPLE WILL DIE" | Jun 14 11:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that is true but there is also a lot of corporate rot in general | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | see the SN comment in other links from today about what has happened to | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the kernel | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eat_the_seed_corn | Jun 14 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wiktionary.org | eat the seed corn - Wiktionary | Jun 14 11:35 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.ruleoneinvesting.com/blog/retirement-planning/dont-eat-the-seed-corn/ | Jun 14 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ruleoneinvesting.com | Don't Eat the Seed Corn | Jun 14 11:35 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | two decades ago there was an easy transition into development for those | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | with the aptitude and interest, the skills and knowledge were easy to | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | pick up. The skills through college, the knowledge through, among other methods, books. Now colleges teach nothing relevant to applied computer science | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and books on the topic seem to have ceased production. | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | For several reasons the investment in the future has ceased, in regards to | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the computing industry | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | universities no longer point the way but now follow industry which is now | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | relegated to chasing its own tail. | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bailouts instead of investments; rot instead of growth | Jun 14 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is visible, or in plain sight, in the syllabus | Jun 14 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder if this is a topic we should cover at some point | Jun 14 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's more of an education topic, before the rise of "EdTECH" and other BS buzzwords | Jun 14 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | like rootkits (procotoring) | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yep | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it was covered by Andy a bit; it's partially about education but also about | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | control and specifically control through ICT; | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | edtech is more M$ entrenching itself as quickly and deeply as it can to | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the exclusion of all real tech | Jun 14 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my experience, a lot of [x]Tech is buzzwording for software partebts | Jun 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | medtech | Jun 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | adtech | Jun 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | fintech | Jun 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't want to say what their supposed "innovation" actually is | Jun 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and compensate using novelty-like-sounding crap | Jun 14 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on what I know from rianne's dad (chemist), this phenomenon is not limited to CS/IT | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | sadly, we you see in EPO, shit floats | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and one way to tackle this is to illuminate that shit | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hope it'll turn around | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | anything, however little, you can do to illuminate this shit | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hopefully get other people to do the same with you | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | will be a litte step in the right direction | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's a long war, like upc | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've won many battles already | Jun 14 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | to keep in mind always: the ones you fight WILL NEVER ADMIT WHEN THEY LOSE | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | (this is strategic, so keep your own score, and maybe see the noccasional temper breakdown, as a sign of the score) | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | see the title of the latest TR post | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | bing is a dead end | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they attack people's PCs | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | DDG (Bing proxy) was exposed recently | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I imagine many users are fleeing | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | word of mouth | Jun 14 11:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 11:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bing was always only ever DOA | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | they spent money (funny money) buying companies for 'seatchTech' and sank a lot into lobbying | Jun 14 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with revenue sstrerams drying up in the cash cows I suppose they'll pull some plugs soon | Jun 14 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | faking growth through purchases is a common trick | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | with gulag so dominant for 20+ years no real innovation in search | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | other than the BS that is "voice search" | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | where you can barely digrest the results of the search | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence missing the point | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might be OK for people who lack both arm | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | for that they already had GUI framworks that do speech-to-text | Jun 14 11:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the voice search is almost certainly a front for the excuse to leave the | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | microphone on and streaming 24/ | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 24/7 | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the voice search is almost certainly a front for the excuse to leave the | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | microphone on and streaming 24/ | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 24/7 | Jun 14 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is the direction they've taken for a while | Jun 14 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | is it just my weird imagination or did you type CIA and then backtrack and delete that? | Jun 14 12:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | imagination AFAIK | Jun 14 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I saw the word "front" and 'auto-completed' in my head | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, Gulag Maps serves similar interests since its inception | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there are interfaces for real-time access by intelligence agencies | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on NY Times report from about 15 years ago | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they "target" certain users of it | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but nowadays I suppose they log everything everyone does there | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for search phases | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | as you see in the case of Vault7 | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | where they pull search phases from like a decade earlier | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | you probably would not even remember if you did or did not search for such things | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | search phases say a lot more about you than a browsing history | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | because one is more proative | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | akim to mind reading | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | expression rather than mere absorption | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | you have mentiuoned "streaming 24/7" | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | this already happens with all "phones" | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they stream locatin data | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the uk, the carriers must collect and retain such data | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the retention has time limits, then periodically offload to GCHQ | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why I would not carry such a device | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | that says more about you than browsing history | Jun 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for a list of iterms you purchase inc. food | Jun 14 12:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes those too | Jun 14 12:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they can also /very/ easily buffer sound recordings and send them | Jun 14 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | they do buffer and send later | Jun 14 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I forgot the source | Jun 14 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | like mic on if you turn connection off | Jun 14 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | broadcast later | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | with malware (official) or without it | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | some phones get updated (cracked) remotely by the state | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | so any missing behaviour can be added on demand | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | baltic politicians are expressing concern about POTENTIAL feature (off by default) for censoring particular speeh | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | for china, for now... | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they will; '180' is China offers to turn that on for the "national security" interest of suppressing pro-Putin voices | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes those too | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they can also /very/ easily buffer sound recordings and send them | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | those are tag teamed via "loyalty cards" and credit/debit cards | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | between the two they know down to a penny what you have spent and on what | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've long called those "discount" cards a penlaty for privacy | Jun 14 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I shun shops that have such cards | Jun 14 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | they literally charge me more just for not giving away my ID | Jun 14 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hard part is getting more people to understand that | Jun 14 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I explained to their staff | Jun 14 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but too afraid to get sacked, they would not even nod or acknowledge the issue | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yep | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes those too | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they can also /very/ easily buffer sound recordings and send them | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | / upload them in bursts, the only question is do they do that yet | Jun 14 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the staff probably aren't even allowed to talk about any subject let alone that | Jun 14 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | one | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the staff probably aren't even allowed to talk about any subject let alone that | Jun 14 12:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | one | Jun 14 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is the "minimum salary NDA" | Jun 14 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or non-dis. clause | Jun 14 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you get paid, shut up" = van de beld, ECMA (about Microsoft OOXML) | Jun 14 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is how masters want their slaves to behave | Jun 14 12:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | something like that | Jun 14 12:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | NDAs are being piggybacked into pretty much every employment contract in | Jun 14 12:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | some countries | Jun 14 12:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes, it's about slavery, wage slavery in this case but slavery nonetheless | Jun 14 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | mitchell mentioned the microsoft nda the other day | Jun 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | you would not see it in gemini | Jun 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he got burned by bishop the microsoft "asset" | Jun 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the nda was pretext for firing | Jun 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | even though he said the truth | Jun 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/06/11/geekwire-doxing/ | Jun 14 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | GeekWire and Todd Bishop: Doxing for Microsoft | Techrights | Jun 14 12:17 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | NDA should go somewhere in a chrt of threats | Jun 14 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | non-disclosure AND non-'disparagement' (like, hmm... reporting a CRIME?) | Jun 14 12:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bishop reads like a weasel there | Jun 14 12:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes both | Jun 14 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | his message was "unread"... for 5 years ;-) | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | liars can lie with a sense of sincerity | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a boss like this | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we call hi m "TheLiar" | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | he keeps pretending not to see certain emails | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then makes up some bullshit excuses about spam filters | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then refuting these excuses | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so cannot even keep a version of the fair tale consistent | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you still need to work with people like this | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the thing is, since 2018 we've not worked for them, we "milked them" | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | after how SarinGas treated staff | Jun 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the morale got so low that no wondrer we ended up like this | Jun 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | any followup on this: | Jun 14 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreign-corrupt-practices-bribery-whistleblower-contracting | Jun 14 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | depleting the institution was her unspoken goal | Jun 14 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is tied to hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign bribes, whistleblower alleges - The Verge | Jun 14 12:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | nop follow-up, let alone any investigation | Jun 14 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | crime pays off | Jun 14 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome to Earth | Jun 14 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can participate in the crimes, feel a little guilty | Jun 14 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but "shut up, you get paid" -ECMA | Jun 14 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | more and more, apparently | Jun 14 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | security as add-on | Jun 14 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | phone without charger | Jun 14 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | car with missing components, because "supply chain" | Jun 14 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | work without pension | Jun 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | contract with 6-month terms | Jun 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | job without career advancement route | Jun 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | gee, I wonder where all that surplus goes to... | Jun 14 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and zero-hour contracts | Jun 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it has a catchy name, or overlapping concept, the "gig" "economy" | Jun 14 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | dead link: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459&query=tridgell+won | Jun 14 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | oops, this one works: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459 | Jun 14 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459&query=tridgell+won ) | Jun 14 12:41 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Want to meet four men who dared to fight MS -- and won? | Jun 14 12:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not heard of him in years | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | a few years ago he got some special honours in his country | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | dr. ... | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some medal, iirc, for his work | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I hardly see him anywhere in Linux circles | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure why | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | alan cox sort of vanished some time after his partner had died | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure why either | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was at intel for a bit | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that was it | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the aussie (not california) andrew mortom is still there, but eerily quite | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | *quite | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for tso, but I still see him in the mailing lists and in events sometimes | Jun 14 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | CoC | Jun 14 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | he's been severely marginalized and the microsofters seem to be calling the | Jun 14 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shots | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | norbert got in trouble for merely defending tso from an unproductive bully | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | LT is still there, active but not very visible, standing on his last foot... and a very thin pair of legs | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did show that his legs were rather above normal with muscle tissue just a couple of decades ago | Jun 14 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | vmware is also microsofters | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they took over the management tied over a decade ago | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then violated the GPL, too, according to an insider | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the "the media" would say that | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be metaphorically like kicking a puppy | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | (and an advertiser... shuit up you are being paid!) | Jun 14 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I got everything up to | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "shots | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack" | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | just about... | Jun 14 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that was it | Jun 14 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I will get on witn links/articles, thanks for the chat | Jun 14 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | Joys of parenting... https://robertheaton.com/soon-he-ll-be/ | Jun 14 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-robertheaton.com | Soon he’ll be three and soon he’ll be twenty-one | Robert Heaton | Jun 14 13:01 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | np | Jun 14 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Gulag is wearing the "Mozilla" robe https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/calling-for-antitrust-reform/ "It is true that companies like Apple and Google offer key privacy features"??????????????????? WHAT? | Jun 14 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Call for Antitrust Reform, Updated Competition Laws | Jun 14 13:18 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | s/robe/skinsuit/ | Jun 14 13:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | amazing | Jun 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I went to Gulag Noise | Jun 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | did a search | Jun 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | got 0 items of any use | Jun 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | all I got was Microsoft site andti-Linux venom | Jun 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | so in essense affirming that the only "contribution" of Gulag Noise to "Linux" is negative in that area | Jun 14 16:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as you see there is a lot of anti-linux spam | Jun 14 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | unfortunately Google brings it to the forefront with its algorithms | Jun 14 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://web.archive.org/web/20100412103546/https://google.com/bsd/ | Jun 14 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://web.archive.org/web/20110514040546/http://www.google.com/linux | Jun 14 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | <Bsd> - Google Search | Jun 14 17:07 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | <Linux> - Google Search | Jun 14 17:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I remember those pages and mentioned it ina video the other day | Jun 14 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Google stopped being a useful service a long time ago and is now about | Jun 14 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | manipulation of public opinion | Jun 14 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the way gulag implemented chromeOS was in some ways worse than Windoiws | Jun 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | technically and login sense | Jun 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course Microsot copied that later | Jun 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | peopple arew meant to feel like guests on their own machines | Jun 14 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I suppose is the "lab" mentality | Jun 14 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | like computer lab | Jun 14 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you pass a machine arounda | Jun 14 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and each person logs in with some roaming profile | Jun 14 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but if they raise kids to think of computing that way, then we have lots of re-training to do | Jun 14 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | re-training won't work, look at how hard it is to overcome the brain damage | Jun 14 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that initial exposure to M$ at an early age causes, it may not be physical | Jun 14 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | damage but the logic and functioning of the brain is permanently and irrevocably | Jun 14 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | impaired | Jun 14 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf must have said something about this, but maybe not enough | Jun 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, afaik gulag was a big sponsor several times in the past decade | Jun 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | i know rms said a lot about gulag | Jun 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but when I met him he refused to say anything very strong about them | Jun 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess he memorises the "patrons" page ;-) | Jun 14 17:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's why the "M$ First" strategy has been both so important to microsofters | Jun 14 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and so heavily emphasized | Jun 14 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It's not just about "being comfortable" with what is used first, it is about | Jun 14 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | impairing the ability to work and think logically | Jun 14 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ... permanently | Jun 14 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :/ | Jun 14 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | i wonder how hard it is to dual boot/wipe/install cruoton on new chromebooks | Jun 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, in canada and taiwan gnu/linux share rose sharply, not even counting chromeOS | Jun 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe we need to write more about the chrome/chromeos minset | Jun 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know a bit about chromeos, but my knowledge of it is outdated (machines ollder than 5 years) | Jun 14 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it is the leasing model applied to destkops / laptops | Jun 14 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://mrchromebox.tech/ | Jun 14 17:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | check the list of supported devices. it is short in regards to recent hardware | Jun 14 17:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://mrchromebox.tech/static/devices.html | Jun 14 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-MrChromebox.tech | Jun 14 17:18 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mrchromebox.tech | Supported Devices | Jun 14 17:18 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | as 'Full ROM' goes ... | Jun 14 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, so Gulag has veered off in its own direction | Jun 14 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "open" system mentality will go away in due course | Jun 14 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | years ago you already have to open up the laptop and mess around with soldered in screwed | Jun 14 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | *screws | Jun 14 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and in veering off, they are trying to take as much away with them as possible | Jun 14 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | notably e-mail :/ | Jun 14 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there is a glimmer of hope there related to the 'Right to Repair' movement | Jun 14 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but they are not cognizant of Software Freedom per se | Jun 14 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | Windows is collapsing | Jun 14 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might say, "get out of here" | Jun 14 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a lot of people I know barely use a laptop or do not bother buying one | Jun 14 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be wrong to ignore those other issues UNTIL Windows is like 9% of the market | Jun 14 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be too late | Jun 14 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes but now they've taken it further and soldered in the hard drive | Jun 14 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | most fiddle with a smartphone for half an hour rather than complete the same | Jun 14 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | task in 5 minutes on a laptop or desktop | Jun 14 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's one of the reasons it is quite good (and important) that system76 | Jun 14 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is opening up shop in the EU | Jun 14 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought about doing article/video about 5 or so people I know for sure they bribed for "reviews" | Jun 14 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 in youtube | Jun 14 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 in linux news sites | Jun 14 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have reservations as they are not an evil company, it might be hp's idea, and that | Jun 14 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | distracts from microsoft doing even worse things all the time | Jun 14 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | thoughts? | Jun 14 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 14 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | which 5 or so people? | Jun 14 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bribing them for reviews is an effective way of getting them out of the way | Jun 14 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | by wiping their reputation | Jun 14 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and Gardiner, as one example, has not produced anything interesting or even | Jun 14 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | noteworthy since selling out | Jun 14 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, gardiner, linux expoeriment (yes, he was banned for it before), maybe learn linux tv, larabel, and liam dawe | Jun 14 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I suspect the theme is that M$ and the powers backing it continue to wish to | Jun 14 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | prevent the public from getting a taste of GNU/Linux by any and all means | Jun 14 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they can | Jun 14 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is different. | Jun 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | around 2009 HP tried making its own distro | Jun 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | months ago HP was pushing WSL | Jun 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | then then got some grip on system76 | Jun 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know the nature of their agreement | Jun 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like how they split revenue | Jun 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point ms peters (now Microsoft) shilled for them | Jun 14 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and bill hilf was a manager there | Jun 14 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, stephen walli goes back and forth | Jun 14 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | HP is not an ally | Jun 14 17:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that includes subverting and destroying the distros and changing them | Jun 14 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | into Windoze-like experiences | Jun 14 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | some control must have happened | Jun 14 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | back to the video mentioned the other day (https://youtu.be/zPt_e9Cdk08) | Jun 14 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | one big difference was the unalloyed optimism displayed by those interviewed | Jun 14 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=zPt_e9Cdk08 | Jun 14 17:48 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | HP is an M$ booster and makes garbarge hardware still | Jun 14 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.flokinet.to | The Code: Story of Linux documentary (Multilingual) (HQ 50 fps) - Invidious | Jun 14 17:48 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | the old HP of the 1980s is long gone, Fiorina killed off the last of that | Jun 14 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think of hp laptop as compaq with another logo | Jun 14 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, until years ago you could still find the older brand on some machines | Jun 14 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | HP is an M$ booster and makes garbarge hardware still | Jun 14 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the old HP of the 1980s is long gone, Fiorina killed off the last of that | Jun 14 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and her residue persists to this day | Jun 14 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 17:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | compaq was bought around 2002 and the name used until 2013 or so but | Jun 14 17:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | afaik just the "name" | Jun 14 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | lenovo is, afaik, still the leading oem in tghis space | Jun 14 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the west will ban it next.,.. like huawei and xiaomi | Jun 14 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | compaq buckled and failed and was sold off as (IMO) the direct result of | Jun 14 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | trying to partner with M$ | Jun 14 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | lenovo is chinese | Jun 14 17:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | oTA | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know how to best help to the ousting of the EPO Mafia | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | for starters, the population needs to be aware | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | for that to happen, the media MUST participate | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is journalistic misconduct! | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | WTO has meanwhile entirely canned suggestions of patent waiver | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | nd nobody talks about it | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | heck, nobody even talks about the surge in COVID cases | Jun 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they think 5 billion people getting infected is now "just the flu" | Jun 14 18:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | agreed, they are complicit a this point due to having turned a blind eye to | Jun 14 18:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | all the scandals, and even the basic problems, for so long | Jun 14 18:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there is collusion or something in apparently agreeing to not cover SARS-CoV-2 | Jun 14 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | \ | Jun 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I argue differently | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is no agreement | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no collusion | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the same people already own the media | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no need for agreement | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | they coordinate many of these things at once | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, the media now engages in the same rheetorical BS it used to mock, condemn | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if "it's just the flu" | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | theie "afct checkers" used to dispute that | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | now our gov. downplays it and lets it spread | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and keeps us in the dark re data/info | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the net outcome will be only further erosion of trust in one's gov | Jun 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and yield more disobeience not more obedience | Jun 14 19:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | another area where the media goes out of its way to cause trouble is when | Jun 14 19:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it intentionally confuses and or conflates immmigtration, illegal immigration, | Jun 14 19:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | human trafficking/smuggling, asylum, and so on | Jun 14 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:03] <techrights-news> "Deporting refugees to Rwanda has nothing to do with tackling people-trafficking" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/13/protests-erupt-after-uk-court-greenlights-plan-deport-asylum-seekers-rwanda | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 14 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Protests Erupt After UK Court Greenlights Plan to Deport Asylum-Seekers to Rwanda | Jun 14 19:03 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | it causes all kinds of trouble and strife both domestically and internationally | Jun 14 19:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | because they do that | Jun 14 19:04 |
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| schestowitz-TR | people like immigration when it it another nation'\s brain drain, e.g. hungarians leaving for greener pastures | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they don't call them the same thing | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are racial connotations with each term | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | overseas workers | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | students on visas | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | workers on visas | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | refugees escaping war zones... | Jun 14 19:15 |
| socrates | techrights articles are attracting corporate slaves now? | Jun 14 19:15 |
| socrates | expats vs immigrants | Jun 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, see context | Jun 14 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | this channel is not techtrights | Jun 14 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | [19:03] <schestowitz-TR> [10:03] <techrights-news> "Deporting refugees to Rwanda has nothing to do with tackling people-trafficking" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/13/protests-erupt-after-uk-court-greenlights-plan-deport-asylum-seekers-rwanda | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 14 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is about politics | Jun 14 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, going back on topic, I think we need to think what to do about EPO | Jun 14 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is one area where we have "access" no other site has | Jun 14 19:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what about the M$ bribery cases in the African nations? That came up a few | Jun 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | months ago and has been papered over. | Jun 14 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is left to say about it, based on no news information | Jun 14 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | *new information | Jun 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not sure, not much new information just more of the same, M$ goes unprosecuted | Jun 14 19:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that TOO is not news | Jun 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | that crime pays off | Jun 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that the next day Microsoft can do press releases about some pro-worker spin | Jun 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and get 100 publishers in 50 countries to parrot it | Jun 14 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there was a strong EEE example recently , showing M$ is still as before, | Jun 14 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | though I am struggling to recall. | Jun 14 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'd say that the lack of coverage is itself minor news | Jun 14 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it illustrates the level of corruption present in the media and some of the | Jun 14 19:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | control that M$ has over it | Jun 14 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | working on text | Jun 14 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 14 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 14 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HyOS1D2f-5A | Jun 14 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Erling Haaland And Alf Inge Haaland,, Daddy And Son Skill! - Invidious | Jun 14 23:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xL5QSrGq7PY | Jun 14 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | The Reason Why Erling Haaland HATES Manchester United And Will NEVER Join The Red Devils - Invidious | Jun 14 23:53 | |
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