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| schestowitz-TR | https://telex.hu/rss/archivum?filters=%7B%22flags%22%3A%5B%22english%22%5D%2C%22parentId%22%3A%5B%22null%22%5D%7D | Nov 14 07:24 |
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| -altlink_3cb/#boycottnovell-π£ Cloudflare: telex.hu | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/rss/archivum?filters=%7B%22flags%22%3A%5B%22english%22%5D%2C%22parentId%22%3A%5B%22null%22%5D%7D | Nov 14 07:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | https://insighthungary.444.hu/feed | Nov 14 07:24 |
| -altlink_3cb/#boycottnovell-π£ Cloudflare: 444.hu | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://insighthungary.444.hu/feed | Nov 14 07:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 RSS feeds of citizen journalkists to add | Nov 14 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec | added, though the former feed may not have much recent enough to trigger the | Nov 14 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec | script | Nov 14 07:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Nov 14 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Nov 14 07:30 |
| Techrights-sec | back in a few hours | Nov 14 07:30 |
| schestowitz | x https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2021/10/inv032089 | Nov 14 07:32 |
| -altlink_3cb/#boycottnovell-π£ Cloudflare: gatesfoundation.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2021/10/inv032089 | Nov 14 07:32 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gatesfoundation.org | Spiegel Online - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation | Nov 14 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | # | Nov 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz | = | Nov 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz | # The name git is not M$ and should not be used interchangeably with | Nov 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz | # github to mean the M$ site | Nov 14 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Rock Band Frontwoman Pees on Fanβs Face During Show, Group Apologizes β https://www.tmz.com/2021/11/13/rock-band-frontwoman-pees-on-fan-face-show-apologizes/ | Nov 14 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tmz.com | Rock Band Frontwoman Pees on Fan's Face During Show, Group Apologizes | Nov 14 07:34 | |
| schestowitz | # wtf? a trump relative? | Nov 14 07:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | re pee lady, maybe she watched Lenny Kravitz and figured out how to make a break, make it to the media/mainstream, albeit intentionally | Nov 14 07:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | today, or half an hour ago, there was some strange issue retrieving the IRC text file from the site to display in the capsule. I did some investigation and it seems like the issue was temporary | Nov 14 10:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | having said that, the lights did not light up, but I saw an error message in the terminal, not from wget but from bash | Nov 14 10:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ping script could not be found | Nov 14 10:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I added the path, pushed to git | Nov 14 10:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem seems to hav resolved itself in the interim, so I don't know if adding full path actually did resolve the issue | Nov 14 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, all those join and quit messages about libertybox -- that's the VPN going up and down when we're on shift. ipfs irc bot goes up and down a lot because of traffic shaping on the raspi | Nov 14 10:23 |
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| Techrights-sec | ok, I just got back a few minutes ago. Catching up. | Nov 14 10:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe the IRC bot should get a higher priority | Nov 14 10:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Nov 14 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | recnetly i tinkered a bit with tc scripts but I can only make it worse | Nov 14 10:35 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I want to move our gemini http proxy to something we control, but those typically need JS, go, or both | Nov 14 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | It would be "only" a URL rewriter... | Nov 14 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | It would be "only" a URL rewriter... Would Apache2 be able to function | Nov 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | as a gemini proxy for TR? | Nov 14 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | It has the full rewrite engine available. | Nov 14 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was thinking more along the lines of proxy.techrights.org with vulpes running on it | Nov 14 12:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Sure it could be done, but the TR host is more or less paralyzed until the OS | Nov 14 12:05 |
| Techrights-sec | upgrade occurs. | Nov 14 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | on another machine | Nov 14 12:05 |
| Techrights-sec | It'd fit on the RPi. | Nov 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec | It wouldn'rt really use the file system either, just some of the bandwidth. | Nov 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec | But setting up HTTPS would be necessary. Though that ca be done with | Nov 14 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec | Let's Encrypt or a competitor. | Nov 14 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | with ipfs and gemini, my pi is already too throttled to serve https, do we have another machine or vps? ip need not be static if I can change the dns every now and then.... | Nov 14 12:10 |
| Techrights-sec | VPS would be the way to go. IMO | Nov 14 12:11 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/#pricing | Nov 14 12:13 |
| -altlink_3cb/#boycottnovell-π£ Cloudflare: vultr.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/#pricing | Nov 14 12:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.vultr.com | High Performance and Cheap Cloud Servers Deployment - Vultr.com | Nov 14 12:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | that would increase reliance on external hosts | Nov 14 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec | ony as a proxy | Nov 14 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am thinking how to step away from a third party, not just for gemini (except ISP and DNS) but also some HTTPS option, over time... | Nov 14 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have more EPO stuff coming, and github every monday. I don't want to be policed by webhosts | Nov 14 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | You started to say, I'm pretty sure it is simple enough, and yes, I agree, with text only things are simplified a great deal | Nov 14 12:18 |
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| Techrights-sec | Wait. For all of Gemini or just TR's Gemini ? | Nov 14 12:19 |
| Techrights-sec | It is simple enough if we proxy only TR material. Then it is mostly | Nov 14 12:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ^W^W^W^W | Nov 14 12:20 |
| Techrights-sec | Nevermind. It does require some interaction. | Nov 14 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Nov 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | you alluded to thius earlier too, as if mod rewrite would tackle this | Nov 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need open port over gemini and all | Nov 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but some people did all the work already | Nov 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it just needs deploying, I could even do this on my laptop, but the idea has drawbacks | Nov 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the 'database' if you like is already self-hosted, but it serves over a protocol that is now web of, if we use a web | Nov 14 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | proxy, it is not controlled by us and VULPES.ONE has downtime issues every now and then and poses a privacy risk | Nov 14 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, I understand the advantages. What would be the scope of the proxy? | Nov 14 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Just the contents of gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ or would | Nov 14 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | it need to be able to fetch and process any Gemini site from anywhere? | Nov 14 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am pretty sure we can limit it to just one capsule with some configs | Nov 14 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not quite sure how to write a Gemini client. | Nov 14 12:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | some people did this already | Nov 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we just need to deploay | Nov 14 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | then we can have something like, lite.techrgihts.org/article | Nov 14 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | https://oriented.net/server/openbsd-virtual-machine | Nov 14 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | https://openbsd.amsterdam/ | Nov 14 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | https://terrahost.no/ | Nov 14 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-oriented.net | Server - OpenBSD Virtual Machine - oriented.net | Nov 14 12:35 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-openbsd.amsterdam | OpenBSD Amsterdam | Nov 14 12:35 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-terrahost.no | Terrahost | Servere og Colocation fra eget datasenter i Norge | Nov 14 12:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Do you have an existing account with any of them? | Nov 14 12:35 |
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| Techrights-sec | No, there was another which was cheap, but I cannot recall the name at the | Nov 14 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec | moment. | Nov 14 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Scaleway. | Nov 14 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | we could use the kaniini server as well, with a new container of alpine, devuan, whatever... but it would use up another IP address | Nov 14 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but given the low volume of pages we have a chance to become more self-hosted, no third parties, otherwise we remain dependent | Nov 14 12:43 |
| Techrights-sec | That way it would but with an OS upgrade it would be feasible to add | Nov 14 12:43 |
| Techrights-sec | to the existing Apache2 service, just add a name-virtual host | Nov 14 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I would rather separate it completely from being dependent on the same host being online, making the site more fault-tolerant | Nov 14 12:44 |
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| Techrights-sec | Scaleway is not so cheap any more it looks like ~ 7 EUR per month | Nov 14 12:45 |
| Techrights-sec | It can be a different domain name served by the the one Apache2 instance.. | Nov 14 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was thinking subsite | Nov 14 12:45 |
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| Techrights-sec | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/name-based.html | Nov 14 12:45 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, subsite see link | Nov 14 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-httpd.apache.org | Name-based Virtual Host Support - Apache HTTP Server Version 2.4 | Nov 14 12:45 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I was thinking of putting it on one of the laptops | Nov 14 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec | It would use little hard disk and only some CPU but periodically some bandwidth | Nov 14 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I bet the software needs some relatively new versions of dependencies, too new for distros on the laptops | Nov 14 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Probably. TLS1.3 is needed at least. | Nov 14 12:50 |
| schestowitz | https://gemini.susa.net:1993/cgi-bin/Proxy.sh?url=gemini%3A%2F%2Fgemini.susa.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fgemini-irc%3Fsort%3Ddesc | Nov 14 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Nov 14 12:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR | still thinking and looking up software deps for several existing (about 5) proxy projects | Nov 14 12:59 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Nov 14 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | one upside is 'selling' this idea of going light for residential standard of connections, then self-hosting, no VPS | Nov 14 13:00 |
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| schestowitz | ~/go/bin $ ./go get git.feuerfuchs.dev/Feuerfuchs/gopherproxy | Nov 14 13:28 |
| schestowitz | package git.feuerfuchs.dev/Feuerfuchs/gopherproxy: unrecognized import path "git.feuerfuchs.dev/Feuerfuchs/gopherproxy": https fetch: Get "https://git.feuerfuchs.dev/Feuerfuchs/gopherproxy?go-get=1": dial tcp 45.87.158.7:443: connect: connection refused | Nov 14 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Failed connect to git.feuerfuchs.dev:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://git.feuerfuchs.dev/Feuerfuchs/gopherproxy?go-get=1 ) | Nov 14 13:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | giving up on this for today | Nov 14 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | back in a bit | Nov 14 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ok, it requires a bit of fiddling to get or make a proxy | Nov 14 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | side note, not important: | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | seeing how often vulpes goes offline | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for how long | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes almost as long as one month | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | you have to wonder how much of a pain it is to maintain | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | another issue | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't know how many deployments there are | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | there may be just this one | Nov 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the code they put online may be messy and not enough to even get this running | Nov 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | except if you're the actual developer of it | Nov 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of the other proxies use JS and other "yuck" like node.js | Nov 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | at one point derek taylot said he wanted to make his homepage just a copy of his capsule | Nov 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | gemini://distro.tube | Nov 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | it has been offline for MONTHS | Nov 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | so clearly that's NOT happening | Nov 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | not many sites use gemini as their core or their DB, except few hardcore gemini/gopher anthusiasts | Nov 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | enthusiasts | Nov 14 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | No to javascript in any form. | Nov 14 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the upside, I think the bright alert now works, as something did invoke it earlier but I am not sure at one point in time because it seems to be resolved already | Nov 14 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i also shuffled a bunch of applications around to reduce clutter, improve the 'alta vista' a bit, reduce distraction | Nov 14 13:47 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Nov 14 14:16 |
| Techrights-sec | back in a while | Nov 14 14:16 |
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| Techrights-sec | the bright alert script is ~gemini/bin/gemini-ping-roy.sh | Nov 14 16:19 |
| Techrights-sec | That's probably the one that is working. | Nov 14 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but the path to it, which was not specified, did not work when I ran it | Nov 14 16:20 |
| Techrights-sec | Did it work? I fired it up just now. | Nov 14 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | It can be moved to /usr/local/bin or something | Nov 14 16:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | after I made the change it did seem to work at one point | Nov 14 16:21 |
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| Techrights-sec | Well COP26 fell on its face in the final hours, undermined by India apparently. | Nov 14 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Though India was at the point, other countries went along with the obstruction. | Nov 14 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec | LOL a perfect 10. I won't click to spoil that. | Nov 14 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't worry, Linux Foundation issued a press release some days ago saying it'll save the world, or something to that | Nov 14 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | effect, I kid youm not | Nov 14 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | while they greenwash Microcrosoft | Nov 14 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | The LF could help reduce energy consumption by attacking the desktop market | Nov 14 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | head on. Lowering CPU usage by 50% to 75% through abandoning MS Windows | Nov 14 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | would have great positive impact at a global level. | Nov 14 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | The LF could help reduce energy consumption by attacking the desktop market | Nov 14 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | head on. Lowering CPU usage by 50% to 75% through abandoning MS Windows | Nov 14 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | would have great positive impact at a global level. | Nov 14 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | minutes ago rianne and I had a laugh seeing that spamnil's youtube channels moves from bad to worse, like 10 views p | Nov 14 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | er day after all the hard work | Nov 14 17:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | googleusercontent.com has just bombarded our home connection with over 20k page requests in a short period of time | Nov 14 18:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Google is managed by dickheads these days. I have the feeling that many | Nov 14 19:22 |
| Techrights-sec | though probably smart don't quite know what they are doing and that the | Nov 14 19:22 |
| Techrights-sec | different departments are not in coordination. | Nov 14 19:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Many of the top people who were responsible for Old Google's positive | Nov 14 19:22 |
| Techrights-sec | reputation are long gone. | Nov 14 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | DiBona is still there, trying to cancel RMS | Nov 14 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Beard envy :D | Nov 14 19:23 |
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| Techrights-sec | :( | Nov 14 19:23 |
| Techrights-sec | DiBona is old enough to know better than to go alone with disinformation | Nov 14 19:23 |
| Techrights-sec | spread via social control media. | Nov 14 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | He himself told me that Slashdot was infested with trolls and shills | Nov 14 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | now he joins forces wtth some | Nov 14 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | From "news for geeks" to "bunch of dicks" | Nov 14 19:25 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, /. got taken over by them more or less, well before the first sale. | Nov 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec | The Halloween I document referred to it as an "Open Source site" but the | Nov 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec | reality was that tech, especially anything related to the WWW or the Internet, | Nov 14 19:26 |
| Techrights-sec | was exclusively FOSS. | Nov 14 19:26 |
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| Techrights-sec | Reddit is the nastiest with all the lies that got it off the ground. | Nov 14 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | People still repeat the lie that Aaron Swartz founded it. | Nov 14 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | In the days of Digg I used to think that he dfid | Nov 14 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | So by nature of being the most popular tech news discussion forum it was | Nov 14 19:44 |
| Techrights-sec | of course going to focus almost completely on FOSS. | Nov 14 19:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Reddit is the nastiest with all the lies that got it off the ground. | Nov 14 19:44 |
| Techrights-sec | People still repeat the lie that Aaron Swartz founded it. | Nov 14 19:44 |
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| Techrights-sec | https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qtwdj8/a_not_so_complete_list_of_all_the_badness_gates/ | Nov 14 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-old.reddit.com | A (not so complete) list of all the badness Gates foundation, how it enriches Bill Gates and is essentially a giant Tax fraud shell : conspiracy | Nov 14 19:53 | |
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| Techrights-sec | I see it is filed in r/conspiracy unfortunately the word conspiracy has | Nov 14 20:09 |
| Techrights-sec | been co-opted to mean false fantasy rather than an actul group | Nov 14 20:09 |
| Techrights-sec | of people conspiring. | Nov 14 20:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | synonyms can be used | Nov 14 20:09 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, however Reddit is censoring the material by categorizing it as false. | Nov 14 20:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think people just submit it there | Nov 14 20:10 |
| Techrights-sec | That will ensure the very few read it and fewer comment on it. | Nov 14 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | I would suspect that the submissions are the response to the filter | Nov 14 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | in the other categories. | Nov 14 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | They can easily be trained to submit it there if the moderators | Nov 14 20:23 |
| Techrights-sec | mess with it in any other category. | Nov 14 20:23 |
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| Techrights-sec | What was the old URL? | Nov 14 20:29 |
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