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tedbox2https://twitter.com/dglsmth11/status/1228453487635312640Feb 15 03:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dglsmth11: @schestowitz How does killing suleimani differ from Obama killing Osama?Feb 15 03:15
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s2KYYENPmwSiLY0DQFeb 15 03:27
tedbox2"@schestowitz i am not sure this site cares about free software anyway"Feb 15 03:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:27
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s2Kn3zG8vc7G5OdbUFeb 15 03:27
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tedbox2"@schestowitz English is a simple language to check spelling. This site and app is open espionage."Feb 15 03:27
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s2Q55IwU0FQKO11GaFeb 15 03:27
tedbox2"@tuxcrafting @schestowitz but facebook and twitter are huge proponents of open source software!"Feb 15 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:28
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s34w2GkUlhCQbnFNgFeb 15 03:28
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:28
tedbox2@jeko okay jeko, I bookmarked your opinion. Thanks for Linuxfr!Feb 15 03:28
tedbox2@steven_ovadia @strypey @victorhck @kind @redstarfish @schestowitz @stevenroose @Valenoern @alcinnz @zig @lanesweets @freedcreative @ambrevar @masterofthetiger @fatboyFeb 15 03:28
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tedbox2"Feb 15 03:28
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s2Fl63OzKFXJoZpiaFeb 15 03:28
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:29
tedbox2As we've previously, there are many #warPigs and #wellConnected #lobbyists in #Australia who are working to undermine our #democratic process to gain a #nuclearWaste and #nuclearEnergy #racket.Feb 15 03:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:29
tedbox2Three years ago a #citizensJury shot down the proposal for a #toxicDump in #SouthAustralia. There was a multi-million dollar push for #nuclear at the time.Feb 15 03:29
tedbox2Now, with a #sychophant #stateGovt Premier #StevenMarshall in power, we have grave concerns for a #sustainable future in this country.Feb 15 03:29
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:29
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s2A2YSW251Cc5GUzoFeb 15 03:29
tedbox2:Feb 15 03:29
tedbox2I used to read a lot on personal blogs or generic news/tutorial websites about anything about GNU/Linux. Feb 15 03:29
tedbox2Today I am more focus on Guix and Guile so I just read in respective websites and mailling lists.Feb 15 03:30
tedbox2Maybe the last news about GNU/Linux I check quicly is linuxfr.org (french)Feb 15 03:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:30
tedbox2@steven_ovadia @strypey @victorhck @kind @redstarfish @schestowitz @stevenroose @Valenoern @alcinnz @zig @lanesweets @freedcreative @ambrevar @masterofthetiger @fatboyFeb 15 03:30
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:30
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s243Ak563QHccOOZ6Feb 15 03:30
tedbox2:Feb 15 03:30
tedbox2Sounds like a good article.Feb 15 03:30
tedbox2We would love to see a more secure #techrights on an #onionAddress or #i2p.Feb 15 03:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:30
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:30
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s1YOZyhGjORRAOPI0Feb 15 03:31
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:31
tedbox2In your opinion, is there any unique (but useful) website about GNU/Linux? Thanks!Feb 15 03:31
tedbox2I just found one, https://linuxrig.com/the-linux-setup by @steven_ovadia, it is a collection of interviews of GNU/Linux users' personal setups ("rigs") such as their distro, software choices, academic tools, dev. tools, etc.Feb 15 03:31
tedbox2I kindly ask your opinions @strypey @victorhck @kind @redstarfish @schestowitz @stevenroose @jeko @Valenoern @alcinnz @zig @lanesweets @freedcreative @ambrevar @masterofthetiger @fatboy and #Fediverse.Feb 15 03:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrig.com | The Linux Setup – Linux RigFeb 15 03:31
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:31
tedbox2I follow LinuxRig, but it is barely active anymoreFeb 15 03:31
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s1Nq5Ea4HlchQjbloFeb 15 03:32
tedbox2"@schestowitz #fediverse?"Feb 15 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:32
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s1LqSOpjwYkdZa45AFeb 15 03:32
tedbox2"@schestowitz @RealAlexJones"Feb 15 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:32
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s0D6VJbZdvLZGkhE0Feb 15 03:33
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:33
tedbox2@schestowitz Feb 15 03:33
tedbox2In the case of Facebook I expected the fact that Facebook used the “Friend Finder” to advertise its “services” to not-yet-members from the user’s e-mail adress book by bombarding them with spam-mails.Feb 15 03:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:33
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:33
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9s04tMQuUGCyceOIVsFeb 15 03:34
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:34
tedbox2@schestowitz Feb 15 03:34
tedbox2why brave?Feb 15 03:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:34
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:34
tedbox2so say they...Feb 15 03:34
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzoPOIbO0yGSJByiGFeb 15 03:34
tedbox2"That's why the #DemocratsUSA are #throwingTheElection, they would rather have #Trump re-elected than #Bernie, because Bernie knows exactly what is needed to break up the #tooBigToExist."Feb 15 03:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:34
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzcieQmQwW4XXR23cFeb 15 03:35
tedbox2"that's a lot greener then my old 486"Feb 15 03:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:35
tedbox2but the old machines does not need to be manufactured anymoreFeb 15 03:35
tedbox2 https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzRsLVUY3yZFS3iqmFeb 15 03:36
tedbox2"@schestowitz oh good lord"Feb 15 03:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:36
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzQLuxNcsLTgR4owSFeb 15 03:37
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:37
tedbox2@schestowitz blocklists, mass surveillance Feb 15 03:37
tedbox2> Whether it’s the case or not it’s hard to say. Surveillance is notoriously hard to prove. But OONI explains something that is perhaps not immediately obvious. Censorship is an outcome, a sub-set of surveillance.Feb 15 03:37
tedbox2> “When you do internet censorship, what you are effectively doing is implementing surveillence. In order to implement censorship you first need to surveil. You need to know what people are accessing so you can then block it. As we do see internet censorship happening (in Cuba) there must also be surveillance,” OONI told Amnesty International.Feb 15 03:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:37
tedbox2> And if you think you’re being monitored online you’re even more likely to self-censor.Feb 15 03:37
tedbox2Sadly this is the direction the rest of the world is heading.  But it's pretty bad in cuba.Feb 15 03:37
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzQ13zSqOjbcT6jB2Feb 15 03:38
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:38
tedbox2@schestowitz meanwhile:Feb 15 03:38
tedbox2> Before she was ultimately pushed out of her job for her husband’s political activism, which is effectively banned in Cuba, her salary was reduced by half.Feb 15 03:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:38
tedbox2> The excuse given? She asked her pupils to look up information on the internet for a history lesson. And one of them used Wikipedia.Feb 15 03:38
tedbox22 years ago.  https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/08/cubas-internet-paradox-how-controlled-and-censored-internet-risks-cubas-achievements-in-education/Feb 15 03:38
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.amnesty.org | Cuba’s Internet paradox: How controlled and censored Internet risks Cuba’s achievements in education | Amnesty InternationalFeb 15 03:38
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzPkuySbA9f1TwI8eFeb 15 03:38
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:38
tedbox2> Only 38 percent of Cubans are connected to the webFeb 15 03:38
tedbox2that's a lot higher than it used to be but...still.  pretty lowFeb 15 03:38
tedbox2"Feb 15 03:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:38
tedbox2might be wrong to associate access to misinfo with privilegeFeb 15 03:39
tedbox2https://pleroma.site/notice/9rzPXGIMWxnn5vjj4CFeb 15 03:39
tedbox2"probably because it wasn't until pretty recently, and lots of people remember cuba the way it was before the internet came to it"Feb 15 03:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:39
*tedbox2 is now known as r_schestowitzFeb 15 03:40
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ryHdvZaynMC3uVM6CFeb 15 03:40
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r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:40
r_schestowitz we are not limited to the planet.  The universe is a lot bigger than our planet.  We should be expanding production to get us off this rock asap"Feb 15 03:41
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ryEAB8UFlt5mMwpn6Feb 15 03:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9ryEAB8UFlt5mMwpn6 )Feb 15 03:41
r_schestowitz"@hello i'm pretty sure @schestowitz spends at least 1 hour a day reading the news/newsfeeds.  He is *plugged in*"Feb 15 03:41
r_schestowitzmore than 10 a day :-)Feb 15 03:41
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rxt4kYxWf2EsYtsSuFeb 15 03:42
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:42
r_schestowitz@schestowitzFeb 15 03:42
r_schestowitzSadly the #nuclearLobby are extremely powerful.Feb 15 03:42
r_schestowitzThe industry, wherever it exists, is #tooBigToFail and aids the #warPigs in the #militaryMediaComplex.Feb 15 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:42
r_schestowitzWe need to harness #renewables, but the smaller scale nature of #renewableEnergy doesn't suit #monopolists.Feb 15 03:42
r_schestowitzMining and refining #uranium is not a sustainable process. Feb 15 03:42
r_schestowitz#nuclear #war #nuclearwaste #nuclearEnergyFeb 15 03:42
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:42
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rvj4GsOVnj6wyCiLQFeb 15 03:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzHello Linux4Everyone! No, I am just the tutorial author. The developer is Hannes Schulze (see his website https://hannesschulze.github.io) and he continues original works by gyan000. Feb 15 03:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hannesschulze.github.io | Hannes SchulzeFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz@Linux4Everyone @elementary @schestowitz @selea @redstarfish @masterofthetiger @9to5linuxFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rvidJ3EJmv9sOPl6OFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz@ademalsasa @elementary @schestowitz @selea @redstarfish @masterofthetiger @9to5linux Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzGreetings! Are you the developer?Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rvgJX920d1Dt2ZWZUFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzhttp://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2020/02/sync-elementary-os-and-android-phone.htmlFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzWith this you can transfer files quickly, share notifications, ping each other, between two devices you have. I hope this increase convenience for all elementary OS users.Feb 15 03:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:43
r_schestowitz(PS: for developers, Conecto is a KDE Connect rewritten in Vala)Feb 15 03:43
r_schestowitzHi fediverse people @elementary @schestowitz @selea @redstarfish @masterofthetiger @9to5linux @Linux4Everyone what do you think? Thanks!Feb 15 03:44
r_schestowitz#elementaryos #gnulinux #conecto #kdeconnect #freesw #fossFeb 15 03:44
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Sync elementary OS and Android PhoneFeb 15 03:44
r_schestowitz"Sync elementary OS with Android Phone"Feb 15 03:44
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rvGkm3m46Pb9jRRfEFeb 15 03:44
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz it'd be interesting to cross check that data with civil wars"Feb 15 03:44
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ruqQ2IrsbOIe1x6waFeb 15 03:45
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r_schestowitz"@schestowitz thank you, Dr. Roy, for all your supports and your love. How wonderful to have somebody like you to love our site. I will convey this to Mr. Ashar."Feb 15 03:45
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ruf0xyvi9faVRTBcuFeb 15 03:45
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:45
r_schestowitz@schestowitz Hmm, the site is blocked on my network for some reason, but I grabbed it from #Tor. Pretty funny!Feb 15 03:46
r_schestowitzFeb 15 03:46
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r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:46
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ru6Dv8k5iKl3sV84WFeb 15 03:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:46
r_schestowitz" Aligns well with the Microsoft's new policy to kill Firefox off (and every other non-Chromium web browser)."Feb 15 03:46
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rt8IxWIfwJKdo5fFYFeb 15 03:46
r_schestowitz" (that's because the healthcare is paid for by federal funds, and the federal govt is already functionally bankrupt)"Feb 15 03:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:46
r_schestowitzso it should shut down all those overseas army basesFeb 15 03:47
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rscTtjNuEQpXfNmz2Feb 15 03:47
r_schestowitz"which browser they are going to stop supporting?"Feb 15 03:47
r_schestowitzfalkon/qupzillaFeb 15 03:47
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rrsu6EVS0YHxCUmdUFeb 15 03:48
r_schestowitz"We are the Cloud. Lower your firewalls and surrender your hard drives. We will add all your data to our servers. Your IT systems will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."Feb 15 03:48
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rreUgk9gUuYIlHud6Feb 15 03:49
r_schestowitz""I have to be grateful that sites shoulder that extra burden, since the MITM - the ISP I have, or the trojan on their network - inserts its own content on accessing http:// sites.""Feb 15 03:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: sites; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// sites )Feb 15 03:49
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rrYv2BnyK6ScSOsrIFeb 15 03:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:49
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:49
r_schestowitzThe publishers want platforms to be held liable for third-party content „in particular if the originator has evaded law enforcement through anonymity“. Such a provision, mooted earlier in a public statement, could amount to a mandatory „real name policy“, requiring users to provide a verifiable ID.Feb 15 03:49
r_schestowitzIf God exists he’d make them go bankrupt as punishment for even thinking about a real name policy.Feb 15 03:49
r_schestowitz"https://pleroma.site/notice/9rr3PaZvTvZvQgCzcOFeb 15 03:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:50
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz this links is censored on #nsafacebook! #censorship https://the-eye.eu/public/Papers/CoronaVirusPapers/"Feb 15 03:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-the-eye.eu | Index of /public/Papers/CoronaVirusPapers/Feb 15 03:50
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rr2yFIyT3sZdGF1N2Feb 15 03:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:50
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz anyone got a torrent link?  otherwise I'm making one tonight."Feb 15 03:51
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9rquYB4cmJtxLWaWCOFeb 15 03:51
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz my money is on a browser exploit"Feb 15 03:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:51
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s37RjahfwIjfqMz9kFeb 15 03:51
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:51
r_schestowitz thanks Dr. Roy. I hope this discussion can motivate @steven_ovadia as well.Feb 15 03:52
r_schestowitz@Valenoern @alcinnz @kind @fatboy @ambrevar @jeko @zig @strypey @steven_ovadia @victorhck @freedcreative @redstarfish @lanesweets @masterofthetiger @stevenrooseFeb 15 03:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 15 03:52
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 03:52
r_schestowitzSteven can contact me if he wants an article about an eccentric setup with 6 displays and 4 motherboardsFeb 15 03:52
schestowitz__> sorry Roy, i think i may have been a bit confusing in our lastFeb 15 04:05
schestowitz__> conversation - i do think it would be very good for um to leave 9.5Feb 15 04:05
schestowitz__> and slony behind - but the purge scripts dont depend on that - i thinkFeb 15 04:05
schestowitz__> they were initially looking for a cost estimate for the job, correct?Feb 15 04:05
schestowitz__I think their original concern was the load the application (front end) job induced on the server, the application server. It was taking up lots of RAM on a very critical box and could likely be automated anyway. I think they use a bunch of bloated applications to carry out tasks that could otherwise be done with routines in the command line/psql prompt.Feb 15 04:05
schestowitz__Regards costs, I am not sure what is covered by their current contract/s. This might be considered a separate project.Feb 15 04:05
schestowitz__I think they like it when their services are managed by a British (local) company rather than outsourced ("cloud") computing because the data may be sensitive.Feb 15 04:05
schestowitz__Regards,Feb 15 04:05
schestowitz__>>>> 3. recently I saw rather nasty propaganda there, so now I'm picky whichFeb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>>> among their articles to link toFeb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>> Shall we remove it from the automated feeds and then just check it withFeb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>> RSS manually from time to time?  That would be my proposal for a solution.Feb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>>Feb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>>> 4. in the feeds script it almost always picks up the author's name,Feb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>>> sometimes even twiceFeb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>> Unfortunately their document structure is crap.  It's not reallyFeb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>>> solvable given current technology.Feb 15 04:07
schestowitz__>> I think it needs to be cherry-picked, esp. for articles about space.Feb 15 04:07
schestowitz__> Ok.  I have it among the feeds I check occasionally via RSS.Feb 15 04:07
schestowitz__> Gibiru is a search engine that reportedly delivers Google search results in privacy. However, I see Google trackers when I go there - Gibiru.com.Feb 15 04:13
schestowitz__> The site owner seems to be out of California.Feb 15 04:13
schestowitz__> Feb 15 04:13
schestowitz__> Makes me wonder if Gibiru has changed ownership. Maybe just because of ads? Not sure.Feb 15 04:14
schestowitz__When Sroogle was blocked and then shut down I never found a proper substitute.Feb 15 04:14
schestowitz__The searx instances I use are often offline, too :-(Feb 15 04:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/dazsnow/status/1228523618411266048Feb 15 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dazsnow: @schestowitz https://t.co/5sa6WiHHURFeb 15 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> newbloommag.net | Taiwan News Publishes COVID-19 Misinformation as Epidemic Spreads | New Bloom MagazineFeb 15 04:15
r_schestowitzhttps://cybre.space/@rick_777/103623465717922610Feb 15 04:32
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:32
r_schestowitzDear god, this is as bad as Sony's copy-protection virus. Feb 15 04:32
r_schestowitzFeb 15 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cybre.space | Cybre Rick: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology Dear god, this i…" - CybrespaceFeb 15 04:33
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:33
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074960391884378112?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074960391884378112:0:0:0:1074961059341684736Feb 15 04:36
r_schestowitz"hao"Feb 15 04:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:36
r_schestowitz"|That's a good point. Why did he switch parties?"Feb 15 04:36
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074247497344892928?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074247497344892928:0:0:0:1075053046512410624Feb 15 04:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:36
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074985696322670592?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074985696322670592:0:0:0:1075055291023216640Feb 15 04:36
r_schestowitz"Doesn't make you less safe...jesus will stupid people just believe anything"Feb 15 04:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:37
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1075002910600622080?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1075002910600622080:0:0:0:1075096021049757696Feb 15 04:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:37
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/1075096009720713216Feb 15 04:37
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074724190118895616?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074724190118895616:0:0:0:1074729278283603968Feb 15 04:37
r_schestowitzAmen, brother."Feb 15 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074825901464252416?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074825901464252416:0:0:0:1074826944980361216Feb 15 04:38
r_schestowitz"LOLz."Feb 15 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074260704432611328?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074260704432611328:0:0:0:1074316126576984064Feb 15 04:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:39
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:39
r_schestowitzThis is the first REALLY valid argument against the wall that I have read, I wonder how I missed this. Trumps "list of sins" is growing longer and longer and I will add this to this listFeb 15 04:39
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1066310405930332160Feb 15 04:40
r_schestowitzThanks! Upvoted and reminded :-)Feb 15 04:40
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @mymindisheavierthanyours on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074260530813591552?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074260530813591552:0:0:0:1074319677617356800Feb 15 04:40
r_schestowitz"Seems like US Americans are loosing their constitutional rights left and right, or lets say what is still left of them. I guess Mr. Trump has his fingers in this as well, he does not seem to be a big fan of the first amendment, to say the least. He wants to abolish it in favor of Israel and called for the death penalty for "anti-semitism", which is, by the new broad definition, ANY criticism of Israel, Zionism, the jews etc. pp.. So I Feb 15 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:40
r_schestowitzthink it is very likely that Mr. Trump has his fingers in this coup as well.'Feb 15 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074609611633635328?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074609611633635328:0:0:0:1074610773379330048Feb 15 04:41
r_schestowitz"Just make a huge filter system."Feb 15 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074613818037071872?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074613818037071872:0:0:0:1074615343851769856Feb 15 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:41
r_schestowitz"Youtube has just changed there TOS. (repeat every 10 min)"Feb 15 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074612519442804736?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074612519442804736:0:0:0:1074617016317906944Feb 15 04:41
r_schestowitz"Android does the same thing on most all of the apps. We need a better Linux fork for a smart phone than Android."Feb 15 04:41
r_schestowitzJolla?Feb 15 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074628422663450624?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074628422663450624:0:0:0:1074630307421360128Feb 15 04:42
r_schestowitz"Russia hates Communism now. Its a great way to end up in jail promoting it. Something that the U.S. needs to adopt after seeing what the Democratic party is doing."Feb 15 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:42
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1074640922555514880?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1074640922555514880:0:0:0:1074642295551692800Feb 15 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:42
r_schestowitz"This is the fix http://distrowatch.org/"Feb 15 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-distrowatch.org | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Feb 15 04:42
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1072216784146739200?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1072216784146739200:0:0:0:1072293743648256000Feb 15 04:43
r_schestowitz"LOL!"Feb 15 04:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:43
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1072824698877468672?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1072824698877468672:0:0:0:1072959138003136512Feb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzmeeeOW! 😻#cats #kingkitty #laser #phaser #pewpew'Feb 15 04:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzRod Martin, Jr.Feb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzPublicly-traded (and many privately-held) corporations are notorious for doing what's NOT good for the environment. Heck, many corporations betray their customers in order to support their true "god" -- the shareholders.Feb 15 04:44
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzRod Martin, Jr.Feb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzPublicly-traded (and many privately-held) corporations are notorious for doing what's NOT good for the environment. Heck, many corporations betray their customers in order to support their true "god" -- the shareholders.Feb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1073059363001425920?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1073059363001425920:0:0:0:1073072164113973248Feb 15 04:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:44
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1073105509031829504?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1073105509031829504:0:0:0:1073109307064942592Feb 15 04:45
r_schestowitz"Another reason for a Nazi like government to take over our digital world. I don't trust any government that has access to all of my digital information when they can create data from nothing to arrest some one they don't like."Feb 15 04:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:45
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1073155184661594112?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1073155184661594112:0:0:0:1073156305327587328Feb 15 04:45
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:45
r_schestowitzEvery day the Liberals act more like a soft Hitler since there policies are the exact same.Feb 15 04:45
r_schestowitzCreating a race war is the only thing they need to get back in power. It to will fail.Feb 15 04:45
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:45
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1073892396654436352?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1073892396654436352:0:0:0:1073893396803088384Feb 15 04:46
r_schestowitz'Feb 15 04:46
r_schestowitz.Feb 15 04:46
r_schestowitzhttps://humansarefree.com/2020/01/bill-gates-world-economic-forum-ran-coronavirus-outbreak-simulation-just-6-weeks-before-the-real-outbreak.htmlFeb 15 04:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:46
r_schestowitz"Feb 15 04:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-humansarefree.com | Bill Gates & World Economic Forum Ran Coronavirus Outbreak Simulation Just 6 Weeks Before the Real OutbreakFeb 15 04:46
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1071824607108263936?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1071824607108263936:0:0:0:1071827023933337600Feb 15 04:47
r_schestowitz"he "dis-union" came from the morally bankrupt Democrats, while Pelosi personally delivering a flagrant temper tantrum on live television. Thanks for another Trump re-election campaign advertisement!"Feb 15 04:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:47
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1072141596066557952?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1072141596066557952:0:0:0:1072144340584128512Feb 15 04:47
r_schestowitz"#DefendersOfWildlife #NatureConservancy #ExtinctionRebellion #IdleNoMore #Occupy"Feb 15 04:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | @schestowitz on Minds | MindsFeb 15 04:47
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17216045#cd469ce0317a0138b0df7a163ef10931Feb 15 04:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: "The peace movement’s small victories demonstrate that we have more power to challenge U.S. militarism than most Americans realize." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/02/13/can-worlds-second-superpower-rise-ashes-twenty-years-war Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__"Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__Obama’s wars were no more successful than Bush’s in restoring peace or stability to any of those countries or improving the lives of their people. But Obama’s “disguised, quiet, media-free approach” to war made the U.S. state of endless war much more politically sustainable. By reducing U.S. casualties and waging war with less fanfare, he moved America’s wars farther into the shadows and gave the American public an Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__illusion of peace in the midst of endless war, effectively disarming and dividing the peace movement.Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__Obama’s secretive war policy was backed up by a vicious campaign against any brave whistleblowers who tried to drag it out into the light. Jeffrey Sterling, Thomas Drake, Chelsea Manning, John Kiriakou, Edward Snowden and now Julian Assange have been prosecuted and jailed under unprecedented new interpretations of the WWI-era Espionage Act.Feb 15 04:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.commondreams.org | Can the World’s Second Superpower Rise From the Ashes of Twenty Years of War? | Common Dreams ViewsFeb 15 04:49
schestowitz__tomgrzFeb 15 04:49
schestowitz__tomgrz - about 12 hours agoFeb 15 04:49
schestowitz__So, while our government’s war propaganda has convinced many Americans that we are powerless to stop its catastrophic wars, it has failed to convince most Americans that we are wrong to want to. As on other issues, activism has two main hurdles to overcome: first to convince people that something is wrong; and secondly to show them that, by working together to build a popular movement, we can do something about it. - The peace Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__movement’s small victories demonstrate that we have more power to challenge U.S. militarism than most Americans realize.Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__"Feb 15 04:49
schestowitz__But... but... Obama got Nobel for peace!Feb 15 04:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17218054#cc86b3b031780138b0e17a163ef10931Feb 15 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: (They said they needed this to stop terrorists) #CBP , #ICE Hoovering Up Cell Location Data From Third Party Vendors To Track Down #Immigrants https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200210/12334643896/cbp-ice-hoovering-up-cell-location-data-third-party-vendors-to-track-down-immigrants.shtml Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__"Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__cation data wouldn’t exist without cell towers. The CBP believes this is all very legal, as it does not target any one person and, in a rather stupid assertion, claims the data is “pseudonymized.” This means the location data isn’t linked to identifying info about the cell phone’s owner. But that word means even less than the usual “anonymized.” The application of analytic tools can strip this anonymization away, Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__even without additional data pulled from other sources.Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__tomgrzFeb 15 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | CBP, ICE Hoovering Up Cell Location Data From Third Party Vendors To Track Down Immigrants | TechdirtFeb 15 04:51
schestowitz__tomgrz - about 12 hours agoFeb 15 04:51
schestowitz__What ICE and CBP “believe” is that they think they found a loop-hole which they can get away with until they are caught.Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__tomgrzFeb 15 04:51
schestowitz__tomgrz - about 12 hours agoFeb 15 04:51
schestowitz__Damn Supreme Court, mucking things up for the Fascists.Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__"Feb 15 04:51
schestowitz__This is already used against protesters as wellFeb 15 04:51
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17204732#f8135e40309b01381a462a0000053625Feb 15 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Switching From #Python to #Java is a Good Idea? https://www.codementor.io/@johnselawsky/is-switching-from-python-to-java-is-a-good-idea-13k7zfngglFeb 15 04:52
schestowitz__"ew…"Feb 15 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.codementor.io | Is Switching From Python to Java is a Good Idea? | CodementorFeb 15 04:52
schestowitz__garbage uncollectedFeb 15 04:52
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17205530#c7b02e80309901381a3a2a0000053625Feb 15 04:52
schestowitz__"#cispa"Feb 15 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can the Government Buy Its Way Around the #FourthAmendment ? https://www.wired.com/story/can-government-buy-way-around-fourth-amendment/ "this arrangement could violate the law"Feb 15 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.wired.com | Can the Government Buy Its Way Around the Fourth Amendment? | WIREDFeb 15 04:53
schestowitz__They tried before and they won' t give up, even if bribing every politician is necessaryFeb 15 04:53
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17205798#768eec9030c30138172b002590d8e506Feb 15 04:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #truthout #israel #trump #HoaxDeal ☞ Trump “Peace Plan” Too Extreme Even for Former #RightWing Israeli Prime Minister https://truthout.org/articles/trump-peace-plan-too-extreme-even-for-former-right-wing-israeli-prime-minister/ Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__if olmert is “right-wing”, how do we call abbas or the hamas? :DFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe MüllerFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe Müller - a day agoFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__May I help you: Abbas → Secular socialdemocrat / Hamas → Nationalist religious.Feb 15 04:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> truthout.org | Trump “Peace Plan” Too Extreme Even for Former Right-Wing Israeli Prime MinisterFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__I wonder why you don’t even know that, since you think and write about Israel almost every day.Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Anyway…asking is not a crime! If you have more questions I am always here for you .Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__PS: I see your ban has been lifted. Keep it like that.Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOGFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOG - a day agoFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__wow, abbas is secular? interesting “view”.Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__    “Every drop of blood spilled in Jerusalem is pure, every shahid [martyr] will reach paradise, and every injured person will be rewarded by God.”Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__doesnt sound very “secular” to me, but i guess, we have different definitions of “secular”, so you claim, that abbas would like to have a clear division between religion and state? or is he just “secular” compared to hamas and PIJ? and hamas are “religiouse nationalists”? so i guess daesh is “religiouse nationalist” 2?Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe MüllerFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe Müller - a day agoFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Abbas is the head of PLO/Fatah and it is a secular organisation. As far as I know Abbas does not see himself as a Caliph, Imam, Sheikh, Mufti. I wouldnt call your Kanzlerin Merkel a-secular/religious even though she refers to a so called God from time to time.Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Out of curiosity if Likud is not right-wing, what would you call it then? Left-wing?Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOGFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOG - a day agoFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__center? maybe “center-right”? is olmert secular? or bibi? libermann?Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__but itz really funny, that you call abbas a “secular socialdemocrat”, while he is using a clear religiouse rhetoric, never heard “my” (i know your nuts, the funny point is, that you sound in that like the afd-nazi gedeon;) merkel speaking about her religiouse mission and i never would call merkel a “secular socialdemocrat”, more a center(-right) politicans, like olmert.Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__so you would call daesh “national religiouse”? how would you call the akp?Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__why is it important, that abbas would call himself “Caliph, Imam, Sheikh, Mufti.”, did erdogan called himself like that? is erdogan a "secular socialdemocrat"2? he never calles himself a “Caliph, Imam, Sheikh, Mufti” as far as i know :DFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe MüllerFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe Müller - a day agoFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Likud center…you make me laugh.Feb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe MüllerFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__Taschenlampe Müller - a day agoFeb 15 04:55
schestowitz__eod.Feb 15 04:56
schestowitz__murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOGFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOG - a day agoFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__abbas “secular socialdemocrat”, you cant laugh harder then that :DFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__and pope francis is, compared to pope benedict, a “secular socialdemocrat” too :DFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__and, of course erdogan :DFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__so funny these lunatic antisemites sometimesFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__"Feb 15 04:56
schestowitz__Olmert is Biden-like, i.e. center with right leaningsFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16892809#b3596e200fe20138d92e3a7860d692b2Feb 15 04:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #Y2K bug was not a hoax. Here’s how our computers are headed towards another major glitch https://scroll.in/article/948414/the-y2k-bug-was-not-a-hoax-heres-how-our-computers-are-headed-towards-another-major-glitchFeb 15 04:56
schestowitz__"I remember the amount of preemptive work I had to carry out to minimise the impact of the Y2K bug."Feb 15 04:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> scroll.in | The Y2K bug was never a hoax. And we may be headed for a similar situation in 2038 and 2050Feb 15 04:56
schestowitz__testFeb 15 05:03
schestowitz__> Hi Roy,Feb 15 07:40
schestowitz__> Do you know any free software development companies in India?Feb 15 07:40
schestowitz__> regards,Feb 15 07:40
schestowitz__Not purely Free software ones.Feb 15 07:40
schestowitz__> thats ok. but any firms that can be cooperatableFeb 15 08:29
schestowitz__FSFI used to be  helpful, but I think Mishi moved to the US to work with Eben Moglen. She might know better...Feb 15 08:29
schestowitz__> More crap.Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> =Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> x https://grsecurity.net/setting_the_record_straight_on_oss_v_perens_part1Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> =Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> x https://grsecurity.net/setting_the_record_straight_on_oss_v_perens_part2Feb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> =Feb 15 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-grsecurity.net | grsecurity - Setting the Record Straight on OSS v. Perens - BackgroundFeb 15 08:30
schestowitz__> x https://grsecurity.net/setting_the_record_straight_on_oss_v_perens_part3Feb 15 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-grsecurity.net | grsecurity - Setting the Record Straight on OSS v. Perens - Perens' History of FUD and Profiting Off ItFeb 15 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-grsecurity.net | grsecurity - Setting the Record Straight on OSS v. Perens - Implications on the Stewards of the GPLFeb 15 08:30
schestowitz__You know it's a waste of time when you see the xChans mentions.Feb 15 08:33
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tedboxhttps://twitter.com/BillionDollarQ/status/1228754408084824064Feb 15 19:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BillionDollarQ: @schestowitz I don't know if that polling data is accurateFeb 15 19:11
schestowitz__http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/is-broad-institute-planning-last-ditch.html?showComment=1581775995513#c5185742642125069092Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__"Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__It is not surprising that in the long run, the Broad Institute might file a petition for review. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__A quick look at the petitions for review shows that 183 were filed, whereby 11 are still pending.Feb 15 19:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Is the Broad Institute planning a last-ditch attempt to save their CRISPR patent? - The IPKatFeb 15 19:27
schestowitz__The success rate is rather meagre. In only eight cases the procedure was reopened and only in two of those a different decision came outFeb 15 19:27
schestowitz__Should the Broad Institute file a petition for review, I would agree with Rose that it has little chance to be admissible. A strong reason for this, is the fact that no objection under R 106 in respect of an alleged procedural defect was raised during the appeal proceedings and dismissed by the Board of Appeal. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__Should be deemed admissible, it has even less chance to be deemed allowable, as the discussion about the interpretation of “any” in Art 87(1) was extensive, and the BA really envisaged both alternatives, referral or not. That the final decision was not in favour of the Broad Institute can thus not be considered as a surprise. The appellant has been extensively heard on the topic, and trying to claim a procedural violation is Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__tempting but vain. The EBA has made clear from the beginning of the petitions for review that its role is not to reopen any discussion on substance. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__There is a clear line of case law according to which a board of appeal considers that minutes represent a faithful account of events when the accuracy of the latter has not been challenged. See for instance T 2301/12, Point 2.4, where the discussion was about withdrawn or not withdrawn requests. This also applies in case of an alleged substantial violation, see T 1138/12, Point 13.4.1. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__It is thus not surprising that the Broad Institute tries first to obtain an amendment of the minutes. The board is however not obliged to amend the minutes, and before amending the minutes it will certainly hear the other parties to the proceedings and have its own recollection of the events, see for instance T 1934/14 II. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__Should in case of refusal of a correction of the minutes the Broad Institute request oral proceedings, such oral proceedings appears useless as the Board cannot be forced to amend the minutes. A further petition to review could then be filed, but with even less chances of being allowable, if at all admitted, as it could only relate to the possible decision not to amend the minutes. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__What is at stake here, is not money. It is a matter of principle. But claiming that any one of the original applicants can file a subsequent application claiming the priority of the original one, but leaving the other out, is quite daring, and not really acceptable. Refusing that the EPO checks the position of successor in title would make Art 87(1) irrelevant. The EPO is not there to adapt to US legislation, and there has been Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__ample warning in view of previous cases and the existing case law in the matter. Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__Thanks to Max Drei for its view of the value of the case law of the Boards of Appeal! One can only agree with his assessment. There is another point which US applicants should take notice, it is the strict stance on added subject-matter. But this is another story.Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__"Feb 15 19:27
schestowitz__"Feb 15 19:28
schestowitz__Here's the thing:Feb 15 19:28
schestowitz__"...........it seems that the CRISPR patent may be worth enough to the Broad Institute for them to none-the-less make the attempt."Feb 15 19:28
schestowitz__My impression is that the patent is indeed worth enough to justify petitioning the EBA. I mean, what is the downside, apart from the expense, and the expense is, one supposes, miniscule in relation to the value of the patent. I mean, given the sums at stake here, how could you (as a business person sitting in the "Buck Stops Here" seat, decide NOT to petition?Feb 15 19:28
schestowitz__For me, what is remarkable about the tone of Rose's piece is the confidence with which she expresses her assessment of the prospects of success of any such petition. Practitioners before the EPO might like to reflect upon one of the privileges they enjoy, namely, to opine with confidence on what will be the outcome of any proceedings at the EPO. Patent attorneys in other jurisdictions (notably the USA) lack any such contented Feb 15 19:28
schestowitz__feelings of fulfilment of their duty to their client, that they can, even very early in the legal proceedings, reliably predict their final outcome.Feb 15 19:28
schestowitz__Three cheers for the clarity of the established case law of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO, a treasury of sound case law which is not being screwed up by the well-meaning but damaging interference of any Supreme Court that feels compelled to lord it over the experts.Feb 15 19:28
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