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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Ukrainian defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov posted on Twitter that, over the course of the war in Ukraine" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/14/ukrainian-defense-minister-claims-russia-has-used-up-two-thirds-of-its-missile-arsenal | Source: Meduza | Oct 15 08:08 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 15 08:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter diplomacy | Oct 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon controlled by 'pedo guy' and terrorist MbS | Oct 15 08:09 |
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| techrights-sec | Soon? More like already controlled, at least by the latter since many years ago | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos, you sent a very timely link about china | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how they police hashtags and such to identify and mute protest-related messages | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hashtag culture is like talking chalk and markinf yourself | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | *marking | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | *MARK zuckerberg | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, not mark of the beast | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | just marking people | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | population control of sorts | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the reproduction sense | Oct 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but more like crowd control, the hoi polloi | Oct 15 08:31 |
| techrights-sec | They're just feeding a huge disinformation and manipulation engine by using | Oct 15 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | twitter in place of official channels of communication. | Oct 15 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | That muting has been going on for ages and ages, I presume not just by red china | Oct 15 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | either. | Oct 15 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 08:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the first is uk and xenophobia/sex leader ("market leader") | Oct 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the second is pro-GOP rag in US of A | Oct 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | not very simular audience, but will check the wording now... | Oct 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the photography seems distinct | Oct 15 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | dailyFail claims this to be "special investigation for [itself]" | Oct 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | washington times cites aspanish-basded "human rights org" | Oct 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they cannot both be trut? | Oct 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you click on the dailymail author, onlu 2 articcles show up | Oct 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's john smith-like | Oct 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you reckon spies might be feeding them these red-baiting pieces? | Oct 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | some years ago I pointed out that murdoch rags kept attacking china | Oct 15 12:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | after reupert had a nasty breakup with then-wife wendy deng (iirc, the name) | Oct 15 12:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway, china is not trustworthy, we already know how they censor unis here | Oct 15 12:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and elsewhere | Oct 15 12:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like saudi money, but not derived from fossil fuel | Oct 15 12:53 |
| techrights-sec | Yes, their "institutes" and the accompanying funding appear mostly vechicles | Oct 15 12:53 |
| techrights-sec | for academic censorship and manipulation. | Oct 15 12:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | analogy | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) microsoft loves open source | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) microsoft offers money | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) microsoft loves linus | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) mo money | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5) microsoft enters board for (2) and (4) | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6) microsoft threatens to withdraw money unless demands met | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | here, the tuition fees (about 20k/year) are 'slush funds' fodder | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | disclosure: I dated an mba student from china here | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | we were intimate and I even settld her accounts from her after she left to beijing | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | (no messy break-up basically) | Oct 15 12:57 |
| techrights-sec | 5) is the worst, most damaging move they have been helped into by quislings | Oct 15 12:57 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the arms industry (on all sides) is a bigger enemy than putin/xi/russia/china | Oct 15 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | nato is not innocent either | Oct 15 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | peace means no armament needed -> they go out of business | Oct 15 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | tentions= armament | Oct 15 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | war=consumption | Oct 15 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did this in south korea for ages | Oct 15 12:59 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 12:59 |
| techrights-sec | s korea: | Oct 15 13:02 |
| techrights-sec | https://historycollection.com/some-of-historys-most-unexpected-plot-twists/15/ | Oct 15 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-historycollection.com | Some of History's Most Unexpected Plot Twists | History | Oct 15 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://fair.org/home/lockheed-martin-funded-experts-agree-south-korea-needs-more-lockheed-martin-missiles/ | Oct 15 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Lockheed Martin–Funded Experts Agree: South Korea Needs More Lockheed Martin Missiles - FAIR | Oct 15 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://fair.org/home/korean-voices-missing-from-major-papers-opinions-on-singapore-summit/ | Oct 15 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Korean Voices Missing From Major Papers' Opinions on Singapore Summit - FAIR | Oct 15 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://fair.org/home/missile-defense-will-protect-you-from-north-korea-say-usa-todays-missile-defense-funded-sources/ | Oct 15 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Missile Defense Will Protect You From North Korea, Say USA Today's Missile Defense-Funded Sources - FAIR | Oct 15 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://fair.org/home/cnns-portrayal-of-north-korea-as-lawless-aggressor-reverses-reality/ | Oct 15 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | CNN’s Portrayal of North Korea as Lawless Aggressor Reverses Reality - FAIR | Oct 15 13:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the url you gave fails to work in falkon even with js on! | Oct 15 13:05 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-sanctions-un-nuclear-weapons | Oct 15 13:10 |
| techrights-sec | the url had no javascript but seemed to work in FF | Oct 15 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cfr.org | What to Know About Sanctions on North Korea | Council on Foreign Relations | Oct 15 13:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | gut feeling: china would have added troops and resources | Oct 15 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | mcarthur considered nuking china near the border in two places, iirc | Oct 15 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | one way or another, china wanted a buffer | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | japan could never defeat china, just kill many people | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | china does not have a shortage of people | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | gut feeling: china would have added troops and resources | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | mcarthur considered nuking china near the border in two places, iirc | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | one way or another, china wanted a buffer | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | japan could never defeat china, just kill many people | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | china does not have a shortage of people | Oct 15 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | a bit of z ero-sum game in africa over limited resources | Oct 15 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | as with energy in north asia/europe | Oct 15 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | going back to the original point (china), before liberation korea was japenese empire (since 1910 iirc), so this | Oct 15 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | was a way for japan to have a go at china by land | Oct 15 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine if you will a "west hawaii" with many chinese military bases in it and then some more in mexico | Oct 15 13:25 |
| techrights-sec | FWIW there are an awful lot of sites that won't render in FF, javascript or not | Oct 15 13:32 |
| techrights-sec | , but do fine in Chromium without javascript | Oct 15 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | fucking sjvn is once again pushing swpats | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | marrying us and swpats | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | for LFOIN | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media is a shilling operation | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | for unprincipled, undiscplined people | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and later they shut down and blame the 'cynical' readers | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | otho, we've kept consistent and on-topic | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | two trolls today in irc | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we cope | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | i still need more topics to cover | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the "media" fails to give me any | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | except doing "responses" to BS | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is not a good topi | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's reactionary | Oct 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/yuhong2/status/1581229126140448769#m | Oct 15 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "@shanemcoyle Do you remember when the Google ads was removed from Techrights?"|nitter.it | Oct 15 13:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR | lol, not talking to unrelated people | Oct 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | who are not even related to the site or linux | Oct 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Oct 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | trolls with a mental defect | Oct 15 13:55 |
| techrights-sec | checking | Oct 15 13:59 |
| techrights-sec | https://adf-magazine.com/2022/10/who-report-pandemic-successes-offer-lessons-for-future-outbreaks/ | Oct 15 13:59 |
| techrights-sec | for your own home site | Oct 15 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-adf-magazine.com | WHO Report: Pandemic Successes Offer Lessons for Future Outbreaks - Africa Defense Forum | Oct 15 13:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR | no offence, this article seems substance-free | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | vague details | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | WHO quotes | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | lack of clear narrative | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and different from anything I've read | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) africa did not test mich | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) distancing hard | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) lack of documentation | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) swtronger immune resistance | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5) WHO dropped the ball, should not be applauded | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6) mortality very high to begin with | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | WHO is like WIPO: UN in a suit and tie | Oct 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | with a token "diversity" message | Oct 15 14:05 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40982771.html | Oct 15 14:06 |
| techrights-sec | grauniad: | Oct 15 14:06 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide | Oct 15 14:06 |
| techrights-sec | -update-on-talks-with-us | Oct 15 14:06 |
| techrights-sec | yes it is substandard | Oct 15 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.irishexaminer.com | Julian Assange makes final shortlist for human rights award | Oct 15 14:06 | |
| techrights-sec | https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/ | Oct 15 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide ) | Oct 15 14:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fake justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com | Oct 15 14:06 | |
| schestowitz-TR | at risk of being called racist | Oct 15 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who live in an average african nation do not live very long | Oct 15 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many maintenance drugs available | Oct 15 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's a fact that COVID-19 is an "old people" killer | Oct 15 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I did try to find some covid material | Oct 15 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but there's not much quality journalism | Oct 15 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | in today's links file I saw just one links that merely mentioned it in passingf | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | at most 2 | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | after 36 months it is "out of fashion" and does not attract many clicks | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence, "not important" | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | so what if in my age group there are now 10% more deaths? | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | doesn't matter why, go warch some football match | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, last night I checked who john cambell is | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's a nurse teacher with a phd in making medical info more widely accessible | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence his very many videos with his lectures, since 15 years ago | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is based in carlyle now, not too far from us | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | i noticed he gets 'trolled' a bit, not just by MSM | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | efforts to discredit his qualifications | Oct 15 14:13 |
| techrights-sec | yes ad hominem is used 1) because it works, 2) there are no arguments of substance | Oct 15 14:13 |
| techrights-sec | That connects to the ongoing smears againts JA | Oct 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | for gulag, campbell is dead man walking | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they already decided he had violated "community guidelines" | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just look for a second "trigger" for another strike | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is well aware | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can take down over 1000 videos in one fell swoop | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | some have millions of views and cover covid19 | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | more like the way I've covered that for years | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that 'defames' billbc and other outlets that don't disclose conflict of interest | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | billPR needs to do more pieces tying that to "conpiracy theories" | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | billBC already escalated to "debunking" the youtube man | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | like this is "news"... having to respond to retired teacher with still-accessible | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | youtube channel | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | this has 'CPC' all over it (the tactics that us) | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | *is | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in china they would have gone to his home by now and 'help' him find therapists in some local clinic | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | mark my words: his channel will be removed, it's just a question of when | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has to apologise upfront for anything that might somehow be spun as racist | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and use terms like "dark-skinned" or "lactating persons" | Oct 15 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | walking a tightrope | Oct 15 14:22 |
| techrights-sec | CoC again :/ | Oct 15 14:23 |
| techrights-sec | That's their only purpose, sadly. | Oct 15 14:23 |
| techrights-sec | most there know already to diversify hosting providers as an intermediate step | Oct 15 14:23 |
| techrights-sec | towards actual self-hosting | Oct 15 14:23 |
| techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 15 14:23 |
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| techrights-sec | Even hiring a VPS would be a step forward for him | Oct 15 14:28 |
| techrights-sec | Youtube pays basically nothing to anyone, that much is common knowledge | Oct 15 14:28 |
| techrights-sec | Backups are necessary | Oct 15 14:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | [due to one-minute network outage, repetition below] | Oct 15 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | self-hosting would be hard for him due to scale | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mind dead links | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and followers who follow a url or platform | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | without redirection/forwarding | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but remember, gulag is NOT free hosting | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they earn almost nothing from 20-min videos of 'boring' lecttures | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | if's the curation that vcurries favours with regimes | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not not, then tomorrow, or a decade later | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who can delete history can decide what history is | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but first they need the centralisation | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | of eyeballs/attention | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they start flagging, intimidating, removing | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | RT and hosts for RT ("empire files", chris hedges) invested a lot in youtube presence | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | all flushed with the flick of a switch | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the next project maven contract might be fatter | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | lunduke wrote about the TBs needed to host videos | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also, more platforms is not self-hosting | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just more eggs in a basket | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | this this scale it would work if everyone used peertube to get to his videos | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | enough people online to go down and upstream | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but people are made or convinced to use "apps" and not even a web site | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | or arbitrary site | Oct 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | so if not youtube, then does not exist... | Oct 15 14:36 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/ | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | yes ad hominem is used 1) because it works, 2) there are no arguments of substance | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | That connects to the ongoing smears againts JA | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | CoC again :/ | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | That's their only purpose, sadly. | Oct 15 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fake justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com | Oct 15 14:37 | |
| techrights-sec | most there know already to diversify hosting providers as an intermediate step | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | towards actual self-hosting | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | Even hiring a VPS would be a step forward for him | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | Youtube pays basically nothing to anyone, that much is common knowledge | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | Backups are necessary | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | yes but mostly he just blathers these days | Oct 15 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | correct, yet it is a step towards self-hosting | Oct 15 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | at this stage, banning his channel (i.e. deleting everything) is all about optics | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or PR 'damage control' | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid some of those twitter backlashstorms that typically are the only | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | way to overturn a youtube "strike" | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I'd tell him | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | from my experience, "you're very likely on borrowed time now" | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can of course (yes, seen this!) find something in some very old video | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | which they claim offends someone | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if not uniformly applied across a platform | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | like how to use some p2p softare | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or some information on a security flaw | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | then issue a strike against years-old videos | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and asking him to accept that it was bad _at the time_ | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what snowden too spoke about when alluding to years upon years of mass surveillance | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and meticulous details about who you phoned, where you walked, and what they insist that means | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or jokes that did not age well as society's values changed | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or there's some new enermy du jour | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | an old trip to see moscow for tourism might later become evidence of being a "spy" | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or see what they did to corbyn | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | linking him to people who merely went to the same event | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is a marriage of so-called 'SWJs' (outrage culture/culture) and military/spy agencies | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they use false pretenses or pretexts for entirely unrelated purposes | Oct 15 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | such as election meddling | Oct 15 14:43 |
| techrights-sec | it is also important to use the other platforms to get attention to the idea | Oct 15 14:44 |
| techrights-sec | of *anything* other than Youtube, othewise it becomes all there is | Oct 15 14:44 |
| techrights-sec | You could make an ennumerated list of all the options and explain why self- | Oct 15 14:44 |
| techrights-sec | hosting is still the best option of them all | Oct 15 14:44 |
| techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 15 14:44 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | unfortunately, slef-hosting is very expensive for videos | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and scales upwards very poortly | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | for several reasons | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so one aspect of interest is, keep specs low | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like small pages, static | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like gemini at home | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are many other facets, like... if you made it big on platform x, can you drag that to platform y? | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) what % would follow | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) what absolute number follows and what provisioning is now needed for self-hosting | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | a channel with a million views per day (~70mb) would be 70,000 GB per day | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if you try to profit from it, then they call you greedy | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if just to pay some host, which they can censor anyway | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the internet is still centralised upstream | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are no "community"-owned underwater cables | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | wireless meshes were our best chance, but those will never work intl'ly unless we can fire satellites into orbit | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | with community rockets | Oct 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | or get "community" submarines with GPS tracking to warn boats when they drop anchors | Oct 15 14:49 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 14:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | thought: | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | how to censor my site, schestowitz.com | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is trhe host | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is dns | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the dns system would not target sites for "community guidelines" | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | also I pay for the domain | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | as for webhost, I pay them | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike youtube users | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | so as long as it's not illegal, fine with them | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | now compare to youtube 'free' hosting or lbry | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | lbry afaik does not give you your own domain really | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | so your links can break | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I don't know the protocol well | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just know many links to their video on a domain they do not own or control | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | fosspatents and 9to5linux use blogspot and wordpress.com | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at least they use their own domain | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | not .wordpress.com or .blogspot.com | Oct 15 15:07 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 15:07 |
| techrights-sec | If it were a static site, it could be easily mirrored, or with some work | Oct 15 15:07 |
| techrights-sec | a static mirror could be made anyway | Oct 15 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I spoke to florian about this ages ago | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think wordpress.com and gulag become DNS managers but not registrars | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you could take control over the domain from them | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it's safe to predict osysee won't be online in 20 yeaars | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | or 10... or 5 | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | or not with the videos on there | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | many sites die when they need to move | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "start over" | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the motivation is dead | Oct 15 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | like taking a 5-level demotion | Oct 15 15:09 |
| techrights-sec | Correct, odysee won't be around in 10 or 20 years, but that does not diminish | Oct 15 15:12 |
| techrights-sec | its value *right now* as one of many ways to avoid YouTube | Oct 15 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other day lunduke uploaded a dready new video to youtube | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it got a meager 700 views | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot less than before | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at least 95% of that was real, not 95% fake | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was surprised to see how few people watch LF videos | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | despite the "claim" of 150k+ "subscribers" | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne knows today's youtube well and can see different ratio | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe a real legit topic would be LF faking its reach | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as per the brochures | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | to overcharge people | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | like overhyping diploma mills | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | in techrepublican | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | you linked to one exampel today | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | there were about 4 news examples the past 2 years | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | somehing "linux" in title, but diploma webspam | Oct 15 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | (marketing) | Oct 15 15:16 |
| techrights-sec | Few that follow him keep any ties to youtube | Oct 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | partly his own fault | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the irony | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | doing to yoyutube forums | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | telling people to quit youtube | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then coming back to youtube | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | awful | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in twitter | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | need your help: | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | for twitter I used to have a tool to computer ratio of real vs fake "followers" | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to do this to @Epoorg | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I want to do the same to LF | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are fakes and charlatans like crypto sheels microsoft | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I am sure a lot are fake | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ratio of subecribers/vies indicates many, many are fake | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | bought and paid for | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they can overcharge for "advocacy" and "influencers" | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | via bacon, spamnil etc. | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also appear to have paid someone to groom their wikipedia aricles/s | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that they're just marketing bvrochures in "article" clothing | Oct 15 15:20 |
| techrights-sec | ok | Oct 15 15:20 |
| techrights-sec | s/crypto/cryptocurrency/ | Oct 15 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking for tools with youtube account check, like the ones for twitter | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | (btw, friedman tries HARD to distance himself from his past, has money to spare) | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | The Linux Foundation, "160K Subscribers" | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | vide week old, 59 views | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | another at 33 | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | so how many subscribers would be needed to get 1000 views on these? 50 million? | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather, 5 million? | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 22 views | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 17 views (several) | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol 10 views | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | woth the effort uploading?? | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 7 views! | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 160k subscribers, 7 views | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4 views! | Oct 15 15:26 |
| schestowitz | https://influencermarketinghub.com/fake-youtube-subscriber-checker/ | Oct 15 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-influencermarketinghub.com | How to Spot Fake YouTube Subscribers [+ Free YouTube Fake Sub Checker Tool] | Oct 15 15:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Why You Shouldn’t Buy Subscribers" | Oct 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | https://peertopeermarketing.co/fake-youtube-subscribers/ | Oct 15 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-peertopeermarketing.co | Fake YouTube Subscribers: 6 Ultimate Ways to Spot Them in 2022 | Oct 15 15:29 | |
| schestowitz | "| It’s not difficult to purchase illegitimate subscribers, and numerous online platforms are offering fake subscribers for a fee." | Oct 15 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | The old tools that did use to ehck and audit | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't work or don't exist | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is a shame really | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could run those on spamnil too and show a video of LF view counts | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | including half a million fake twitter accounts, maybe 90% of them | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's similar to FBInstagram | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they fake what they are and how ell they do | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | which causes insecurity and anxiety among non-cheaters | Oct 15 15:39 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 15:39 |
| techrights-sec | Which tools were they? | Oct 15 15:39 |
| techrights-sec | I won't click on spamnil's channel and accidentally give him an extera view | Oct 15 15:39 |
| techrights-sec | :/ | Oct 15 15:39 |
| techrights-sec | My random guess is that a slight majority of twitter accounts are inactive, | Oct 15 15:39 |
| techrights-sec | fake, or spam. | Oct 15 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe twitter and gulag broke or blocked (API, IPs) to hide their fakeness | Oct 15 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | their whole market value depeends on this fakeness | Oct 15 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the idea you can profit from those "platforms" | Oct 15 15:41 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/10/10/parliament-officials-defend-seizure-julian-assange-books/ | Oct 15 15:42 |
| techrights-sec | Fraud is almost certainly against the law, the question is whethe the | Oct 15 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crikey.com.au | Julian Assange: Parliament defends seizure of family's books | Oct 15 15:42 | |
| techrights-sec | relevant governments will call them out on it or turn a blind eye in exchange | Oct 15 15:42 |
| techrights-sec | for access and manipulation and censorship | Oct 15 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | just showed rianne | Oct 15 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | she calls it fake | Oct 15 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | she knows many channels and the expected subs/view ratio | Oct 15 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | fallback: show the numbes | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | let the video watcher reach own conclusoon | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the earlier discussion on self-hosting can be mention ed in passing | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | we cover some of those aspects before | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow, lunduke channel: | Oct 15 15:59 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 15 15:59 |
| techrights-sec | Lunduke droppe youtube and told everyone of his fans never to look for his | Oct 15 15:59 |
| techrights-sec | videos there ever again. Whoever or whatever is viewing them is a question. | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4 days ago, 424 views | Oct 15 15:59 |
| techrights-sec | Certainly not many will be his regular followers. | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1 months ago 820 | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 months ago 666 | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | # of subs=63.1K | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | one check that "works" | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | says 20% fake for jzemlin | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but times out on linuxfoundation | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot find one for youtube | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe due to lack of capacity or lack of business model | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | f* this, the wwww is shit | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you can see there are fakes, but no valid way to properly show this | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the platforms work to hide the fakeness | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | i might do a video showing this emprically alone | Oct 15 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I found 3 for twitter | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | 0 for youtube | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1 of the 3 worked, but only for 5,000 first followers | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | for LF it doesn't tell you anything about the later 155k | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | so pretty much pointless | Oct 15 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTA | Oct 15 16:02 |
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| techrights-sec | Regarding the Git update, Mastodon is a specific instance of the Fediverse, perhaps the link should say Fediverse | Oct 15 20:01 |
| techrights-sec | instead? | Oct 15 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are correct, I'll redo the whole thing in the next iteration | Oct 15 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, mastodon isn't important, it's waning for years already | Oct 15 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wish I took stock of ALL the techrepublic spam I saw before the weekend, my latest post shows only a subset | Oct 15 20:49 |
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