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| Techrights-sec2 | gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/15/epo-abolishes-access-to-justice | Jun 16 08:10 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | implies in the title that the EPC is long since over and done with officially | Jun 16 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the wording of titles and article bodies need to be very clear about | Jun 16 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the EPC being in force and that it bans sw patents and that the EPO managment | Jun 16 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is /breaking the law/ and /violating an international treaty/ | Jun 16 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | An article can do a lot of damage if it plays along with the EPO managemnt's | Jun 16 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | lies about the EPC being defunct | Jun 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | interesting as I did not think it would give this impression | Jun 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fact the article and video repeatedly call them out for breaking the law | Jun 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and does not imply EPC can be ignored | Jun 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | just that it is being vbiolated a lot | Jun 16 08:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | walking on a grave implies a future burial, dancing on a grave implies | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | a past burial | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The body of the article calls out the EPO managment but it takes a few | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | paragraphs to catch up to that fact since the title sets the tone in the | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | opposite direction since it indicates (inaccurately) that the EPC is over | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes they ignore it but we should not look at the world from their lawless | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | perspective | Jun 16 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is, to them, dead | Jun 16 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they try to reinforce this idea | Jun 16 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | before clickbait headlines there was an effort for media to summarize | Jun 16 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as concisely as possible, now that there are mostly only clickbait headlines | Jun 16 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that habit has persisted -- too many people do not read past a headline | Jun 16 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | therefore it is so very important to have a headline congruent with the | Jun 16 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | core message of the article | Jun 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, so I failed this time | Jun 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will be more careful next time | Jun 16 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no worries but can it becorrected? | Jun 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd rather not alter it because that leads to other issues, inc. changes elsewhere and questions raised about the change | Jun 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I'll compensate for it somehow | Jun 16 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | a line a t the bottom could say | Jun 16 08:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | update 2022-06-16 corrected title | Jun 16 08:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or some such | Jun 16 08:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will think of some witty memes about zombies and things coming back from the grave | Jun 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the EPC's fathers | Jun 16 08:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've drafted some dialogue | Jun 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but cannot find a suitable meme | Jun 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | might make several | Jun 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | to remind people they break the law | Jun 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | <14 days before the meeting | Jun 16 08:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | prepare the public for the topics to be covered by the meeting? | Jun 16 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | And maybe warn about past dodges which are likely to be retried? | Jun 16 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | be sure to add a few words about how they break the law (IMO) | Jun 16 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 16 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the list would be incomplete | Jun 16 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | would rather not | Jun 16 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would make it seem like a single-issue case | Jun 16 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not a long list just a word or two | Jun 16 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 16 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | maybe a link then to the scandals page in the wiki? | Jun 16 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is alraeady such a link there | Jun 16 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | That's to the EPO in general, IIRC there is a full scandal list | Jun 16 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that I know of, but we can make a new page for it | Jun 16 08:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | oop it has changed, that link is the one I was thinking of, it's just that | Jun 16 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the table is further down o nthe page nowadays | Jun 16 08:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Dear SUEPO members, dear colleagues, | Jun 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Your SUEPO TH Committee has been establishing bridges with management, and seeking communication channels hoping for a sound dialogue. | Jun 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | We have just received a first concrete sign that indeed, site-specific conditions will be looked at. | Jun 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | The Office announced in an intranet publication on the 7th June that children with special education needs will still be maintaining their current benefits as before the Education and Childcare Reform. | Jun 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | SUEPO The Hague reiterates its commitment to dialogue and hopes that this measure is one of many more to come to the benefit of SUEPO members and EPO staff. | Jun 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 16 08:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 16 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 16 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've attempted to show some numbers | Jun 16 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | over times the data will improve | Jun 16 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | a | Jun 16 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I improve the way it is dissected | Jun 16 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the title, however, is factual | Jun 16 11:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I started taking a lot of naps, but they typically add up to about 6 hours every 24 hours | Jun 16 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that's the same as befoe, just spread across more nicely so that I get breaks from the computer | Jun 16 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | if there is fatigue, in general, then changes in diet or medication (or vaccines) might be a factor | Jun 16 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | other than hereditary aspects | Jun 16 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | might want to do detailed blood tests, inc. for stuff like the thyroid gland | Jun 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe a defficiency of some kind | Jun 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just added a draft, it's about Belarus sort of... | Jun 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll keep repeating the point about EPO breaking the law | Jun 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (another colleague has just been RE-infested with COVID-19... we're not even a large company. This is no flu. With flu he can still work from home.) | Jun 16 12:21 |
| schestowitz | some arsehole on ebay cancelled | Jun 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | that site is kaput | Jun 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | When people make an offer and the offer is accepted, the person is COMMITTED to buying the item. | Jun 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | "Changed my mind" is NOT a valid excuse. | Jun 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Paypal must penalise her account, not put burden on me, or force the purchase. | Jun 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise PayPal will lose buyers. | Jun 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | This is not acceptable. | Jun 16 12:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> COVID-19 in England: Sharpest Rise, Highest Levels of Infection and Hospitalisation in Over a Month https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/16/covid-rise-in-summer/ | Jun 16 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 in England: Sharpest Rise, Highest Levels of Infection and Hospitalisation in Over a Month | Jun 16 13:28 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is also nap o-clock here | Jun 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | another thing to consider is quality of sleep | Jun 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, if the sleep one gets is not deep, then another instance of it must make up for it | Jun 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the body typically 'knows' when it needs sleep and make the most of it | Jun 16 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Disappointing. Giulia Carlini at "Access Now" is boosting propaganda from Microsoft criminals, lending credibility to the lie that Microsoft speaks 'FOR' Open Source. Of note: that link is to GitHub blog. GitHub is PROPRIETARY!!! | Jun 16 14:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | "We're consuming way too much energy. By now people should start understanding that "shifting over to green power" is kind of a joke. So far the world hasn't really started transitioning at any meaningful scale. Yes, new solar and wind plants are built every day." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-06-16-would-1950s-living-standards-save-us-.gmi | Jun 16 15:46 |
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| schestowitz-TR | you said something about mozilla bailout running out | Jun 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | then pasted some link | Jun 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not catch up | Jun 16 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, Mozilla' abios bailout lasts until next year: | Jun 16 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Jun 16 17:07 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.androidheadlines.com/2020/08/mozilla-firefox-google-search | Jun 16 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.androidheadlines.com | Google Is Paying Mozilla $450M Per Year To Be The Default Search Engine On Firefox | Jun 16 17:07 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | How likely is Mozilla to continue to exist beyond that. It already has | Jun 16 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | more or less stopped software activities | Jun 16 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you say something other than that? | Jun 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I only caught a glimpse and then it was gone | Jun 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I assume keyboard binding or wornng window | Jun 16 17:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I presume so but I don;tthink I pressed anything relevant here; no worries | Jun 16 17:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | either way | Jun 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | for most people the question about mozilla woulkd seem rhetorical | Jun 16 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | fore the web, it is a disaster | Jun 16 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | the forks of mozilla firefox depend on mozilla staff | Jun 16 17:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The forks won't survive long since HTTP/3 is a hot UDP mess. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | When Google pulls the plug on Mozilla, the Firefox derivatives won't get | Jun 16 17:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | any secondary goodwill and certainly not any primary goodwill. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | in that case, I'm glad we invest in irc, ipfs, gemini etc. | Jun 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the web is becoming a very different turf and even rss feeds are not all the rage like in 2003 ish | Jun 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | at work, a lot of the "web sites" or "web browser" stuff we use is not web pages | Jun 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just some widgets clung together | Jun 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we're mean to think it is cross platform | Jun 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the browser as the api | Jun 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | like adobe flash | Jun 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | it runs in some sandbox | Jun 16 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | In 2003, things were still being decided by skilled people. | Jun 16 17:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | because of javascript, web browsers are just being used as VMs anyway, | Jun 16 17:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hosting unauthenticated programs of indeterminable provenance | Jun 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me test something......... | Jun 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me test something......... | Jun 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, I was checking to see if the prior session was terminated by ctrl+f, but no... | Jun 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it doesn't matter as we lost almost nothing there, I just want to prevent that happening again | Jun 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've cleaned my feed ####################################### | Jun 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | # Ytalk Error # | Jun 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | should we do some articles on github or not yet? | Jun 16 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shall we switch from ytalk to something else instead? | Jun 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, I got used to ytalk, it is more than OK | Jun 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | just took some time getting used to | Jun 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus notificatiobs | Jun 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | even rianne can hear the ping and knows when I'm being talked to | Jun 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | going back on the (prior) topic, I wonder what to do about the web | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | sure, that may be connected to a lot of other things, inc. github, typescript, and mozilla | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it's fair to say no company will "save" it | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's not enough ineria for a big change | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll jst get more and more bloated | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | as mozilla gets smaller | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | omgubuntu shilled vivaldi this morning | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I responded to that in irc, daily links, and in tuxmachines | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is getting very silly | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnu/linux is to the "omg!" brand of sites just some little "app-running" box | Jun 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to a lot of us that would seem pointless. like android... | Jun 16 17:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no company will save the web, rather it is the companies which are in their | Jun 16 17:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shortsightedness in th efinal stages of killing the web | Jun 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | trend: in tech good things come | Jun 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like git | Jun 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like svn | Jun 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like cvs | Jun 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they grow | Jun 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and get complicated | Jun 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | anbd messy politics | Jun 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they get too big or too messy | Jun 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they impode and something replces them | Jun 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's true for mozillz | Jun 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for the web at large | Jun 16 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | git has been a big improvement, something which comes next but with | Jun 16 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | a far better UI would be welcome. | Jun 16 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Even if one sticks to basic HTML and CSS, HTML5 and CSS3 are so complicated | Jun 16 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that no new browser are feasible | Jun 16 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Those are front-ends not GUIs but the point there is that as a front end it | Jun 16 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | still has most of the limitations of the original program. | Jun 16 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There is GoT which can work with Git repositories. it mightbe that the | Jun 16 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Git legacy will be the repository structure / format and something else | Jun 16 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | compatible with the repositories yet with a much better UI will be | Jun 16 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | worked out | Jun 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | web guis for git exist already | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | many of them | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | with git as the underlying "Engine" so to speka | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the GUIs vary | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they come with a load of stuff like databases | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | think of git like sqlk | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | *sql | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | gitlab etc. is like phpmysqladmin | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the whole modality of change control needs to change | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | with relational dbs many approaches were attempted | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but their adoption was and is still limited | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | to name just the db example, there are many more | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like decalarative programming and functional etc. | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for change control I think there is room for less push/pull approach | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are working like the telegram age | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | telegraph | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | email, unlike ytalk or irc, is also very telegraph-like | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | we assume pigeon mail | Jun 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | (or snail) | Jun 16 17:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | git /is/ designed for concurrent editing, it is justa matter of getting | Jun 16 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | used to the work flow. There are also several options for checking in / out | Jun 16 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the source from the repository | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | to elaborate a little | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the push/pull approach has caused us hard-to-resolve conflicting edits | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | as you make assumptions about gaps in time | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for kernel dev that might be ok | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | as few people work on some particular block of code at one time | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like qualcomm working on the qwualcomm shit | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or networking | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and greg k-h plugging some bugs and backporting them | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | right now I have git set up to aut-pull every 10 minutes and then a tall terminal to show me the past 3-5 hours inc. the summary of chasnges | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is not how git is 'meant' to be use | Jun 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a timeline or notifications in social control media | Jun 16 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | git is more efficiently used differently than that afaik | Jun 16 17:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the configuration file can be tweaked to that effect too | Jun 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | a few days ago I decided to change some file names | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | after I had changed their format and extension to gemtext | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had to look up some documentatyion for this | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and still got it partly wrong | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the end I fast-forwarded | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that kind of thing should not be that hard | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | a universal GUI is not the solution | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for package management | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know what the answer is | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you experienced 10 years of frustration, like kernekl hackeers, tyou wqould know the specs of what would workm better than svn | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and start prototyping it | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, had linux not been so popular and big, and had linux not adoptded git, I doubt git would be more | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | tyhan just "yes another scm | Jun 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | *yet another | Jun 16 17:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I agree, Git was an improvement but that it was it's association with | Jun 16 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | such an enormous, global project as Linux which propelled it to the forefront | Jun 16 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in short order (or any order for that matter) | Jun 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of new gulag "services" are absolutely shite | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ugly | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | lacking features | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | toy-like | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but because gulag can promote them through channels (browser, search, ads) | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they tend to catch on by virtue of merely existing | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if they lose money | Jun 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | or don't get security basics right (Google+ | Jun 16 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | toy-like so that "engagement" is increased as people fumble around trying | Jun 16 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to get it to work | Jun 16 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, at 5pm here I FINISHED all my RSS feeds | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | refreeshed again | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | cleaned again | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing | Jun 16 17:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also managed to make some posts in my site, lots in TM and TR aside from my own site | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | leaving some of the Gulag Noise machine behind meant I was able to focus on the key thing | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than get annoyed by anti-Linux missives | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, at 5pm here I FINISHED all my RSS feeds | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | refreeshed again | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | cleaned again | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also managed to make some posts in my site, lots in TM and TR aside from my own site | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | leaving some of the Gulag Noise machine behind meant I was able to focus on the key thing | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than get annoyed by anti-Linux missives | Jun 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Something We Did Not Have in Past Summers: a Summertime Surge of COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/16/summertime-surge-of-covid19/ | Jun 16 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Something We Did Not Have in Past Summers: a Summertime Surge of COVID-19 | Jun 16 17:42 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, iicymi, gulag got us ttax infusion/cash infusion through maven | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | you sent me a link, iirc | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | this problem is not limited to Microsoft | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | those so-called 'big tech' companies are just 'digital military cointractors' at this stage | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | with laughably high budget thrown their way | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | graft | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will fall down hard when ussr economy can no longer justify having a million living in tents | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | while trillions gets spent on "pet projects" of psychopahants | Jun 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like mr. "catain obvious nft is scam" gates | Jun 16 17:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | link? | Jun 16 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | correct | Jun 16 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they seem not to care about the causes and are willing to spend giant sums | Jun 16 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | on prosecution and incarceration as a response instead of building the economy | Jun 16 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what they have in place of the economy is a sham and many see through it | Jun 16 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but the media is onboard with the oligarchs | Jun 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | more people need to call them out on the "shortage" BS | Jun 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "record low unemployment" | Jun 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "great resignation" | Jun 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | you'd think it's a nation of pyuppies and early retirees | Jun 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to the beach and sipping pina colada | Jun 16 17:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes the shortage is not of workers but of paying jobs | Jun 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | case of point: patent examination | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | used to be a honourable profession | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | einstein in his days was a patebnt clerk | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they take kids out of college | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and teach them to use Google "closest prior art" | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | like pigeons | Jun 16 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | andy? | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | another case of point: mark farnell | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I got the name wrong | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Jun 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon you will have academic job desc. that take into account not publications but social [sic] media [sic] stuff | Jun 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | not because it is relevant | Jun 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but because that can help lure students in, enrolling for the diploma mill | Jun 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | the few blogs I followed of scholars became inactive | Jun 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am guessing they mistook "tweets" for an equivalent activity | Jun 16 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the context of tweets is lost almost immediately if not sooner | Jun 16 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | without context, they "messages" are just meaningless strings, | Jun 16 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the only thing lasting from that interaction is the farmed interaction itself | Jun 16 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the loss of context is actually the worst aspect because of risk it poses | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | because one day you might hail gates as loving kids and then 10 years later | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | a sentence you said can be interpreted as... oh, shoit | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | he "loves" kids | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or you say good things about bill cosby | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or you make a joke about putin | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | in light of some event | Jun 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | that is not noted or associated with thh "tweet" | Jun 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mensch, the troll, try to apint me as antisemitic | Jun 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | by just doing a twitter search on my account | Jun 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then presenting things out of context | Jun 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | she was also picking on asange because vanishing out of politics and the net (fafaict) | Jun 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | tweets made years ago because subject for complaints from (i think) fsfe and ibm | Jun 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | osi even took down my account for a week | Jun 16 18:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I forgot the perjorative name for that kind of out of context archeology | Jun 16 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Jun 16 18:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | quote-mining? | Jun 16 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, something like that | Jun 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | zemlin deleted all his tweets (iirc 4-5k of them) because he had said all sorts of shit | Jun 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i did not manage to archive them | Jun 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it doesn't matter so much | Jun 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the day he "steps down" will be followed by speculation | Jun 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and LF-sponsored puff pieces from Christine and the coin-operated SJVN | Jun 16 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | zemlin and deicaza and other dirt bags are special cases | Jun 16 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | isn't deicaza due to formally change employment status with the cult he is at? | Jun 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am waiting to see what nat and de icaza do | Jun 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | before going ahead with the github material I have | Jun 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | s | Jun 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | some is about spouses | Jun 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but publishing dirt now would feel like kicking while they're down | Jun 16 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | SJVN still writes a few good articles per year, perhaps by accident, but | Jun 16 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's not frequently enough to follow his activities | Jun 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the elephant circus whom they occasionally free from the chain for a few hours | Jun 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | he would starve the death while experiencing freedom | Jun 16 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: circuses don't use male elephants because not only are they much stronger | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: they have a wicked temper and don't put up with bullshit for very long | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: and nearly always eventually flip out. Being smart, they can observe | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr; people skuttling into hiding and once things settle down, systematically | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: drag them out of hiding and smash them; elephants are way to smart to | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: either eat or keep captive; there is some question remaining about | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: work elephants but probably, on average, those are not so great; | Jun 16 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: however, there are a lot of positive stories about work elephants | Jun 16 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | tonight will be my last shift | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | without nGulag Noise, this weekend will be wide open | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to hunt for more RSS feeds of technical nature | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ones you sent include a lot of MSM like CNN | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | which means that I might stumble upon Pearly The Genius and | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "shortage" mythology shaming the people who were robbed off their livelihood | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they should be shamed of themselves because the economy ha never been better!! | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "It's just you, lazy fuck!" | Jun 16 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | us strategy (hypothesis): suck up to KSA, no matter what, and sabotage china, russia etc. | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that the debt collection never happens | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the "zero-sum" mindset | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | make everything equally fucked up | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and suddently you have shared pain | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they sabotage technology this way | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | like making EVERYTHING very bloated and unworkable | Jun 16 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the zero-sum-game religion causes a lot of damage because 1) it is easier to | Jun 16 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | sabotage than to build, 2) many adherents believe that by sabotaging they | Jun 16 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | are sonehow creating a winner | Jun 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | "winning" is relative ;-) ;-) | Jun 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | What does that have to do with the Web, with Mozilla, or with Firefox? https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/06/hacks-decoded-bikes-and-boomboxes-with-samuel-aboagye/ | Jun 16 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hacks.mozilla.org | Hacks Decoded: Bikes and Boomboxes with Samuel Aboagye - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog | Jun 16 18:35 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | parts of MSIE are probably still spread throughout windoze | Jun 16 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and not removable | Jun 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you read last night's article from ryan? | Jun 16 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | mozilla apparently does not do programming or development these days | Jun 16 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not yet. checking | Jun 16 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the speculative bubbles or the sonos speakers? | Jun 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, the one about MSIE | Jun 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | around midnight last night | Jun 16 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in our TR blog | Jun 16 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | we reposted that | Jun 16 18:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 16 18:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/15/the-death-of-internet-explorer-has-been-greatly-exaggerated/ | Jun 16 18:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | http://techrights.org/2022/06/15/harms-of-msie/ | Jun 16 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | The death of Internet Explorer has been greatly exaggerated. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 16 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Death of Internet Explorer Has Been Greatly Exaggerated | Techrights | Jun 16 18:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | osi has just admitted a decrease in financial turnover | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | good news | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course they're spinning that! | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF has not sold everything yet | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like selling kernel.org to github.com | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's still monetising the sellout or the handover | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | while its credibility is like campinos | Jun 16 18:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 18:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's probably still on the list of things to do | Jun 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people sent me emails pleading for help stopping that | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was promoted, initially, by microsoft tim in the register | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like they gave him the boot or a sign he need to take a hike | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the register I follow using rss only for 2 particxular authors | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | they focus on fs and gnu linux | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | almost all the time | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | so high s/n ratio | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | should we at some point add a flat list of rss feeds to git or never? | Jun 16 18:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | probably never, since there is no real way merge that with QuiteRSS | Jun 16 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the original thinking was, doing a diff of the output lets you see what other sides added, then add the missing ones manually | Jun 16 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | quiterss even takes whatr's in the clipboard and pre-enters it when you press "Add" | Jun 16 18:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes QuiteRSS can read the clipboard but the opml file is the big problem | Jun 16 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the opml also misses out a lot of info, iirc update cycle and enabled/disabled | Jun 16 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it stores tghe tree heirarchy, name, and url for site/xml | Jun 16 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | *hierarchy | Jun 16 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and category names | Jun 16 18:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, again though I can see it replacing the whole OPML file, I can't see | Jun 16 18:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | merging OPML files which have diverged significantly except by hand and that | Jun 16 18:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | would be a PITA and inefficient | Jun 16 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | thje script flattenes, sorts, de-duplicates these | Jun 16 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then, as I said, adding missing bits would be a manual process | Jun 16 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | even then, not sure if exporting and flattening would then merge OK | Jun 16 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | though I assume it would be an additive merge | Jun 16 18:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | flattening loses the groupings which are what make the large volume of feeds | Jun 16 18:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tolerable or even usable | Jun 16 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've given up[ on the osi of doing an article on osi funding | Jun 16 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are already having issues | Jun 16 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I resent what they did to me in twitter | Jun 16 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | (of course I stopped caring about twitter since then) | Jun 16 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they're not going to voluntarily expose their dodgy practices | Jun 16 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:30] <techrights-news> Seems apt that OSI has put Italians in charge (3 of them), maybe we should call the OSI the "OPENWASHING MAFIA" | Jun 16 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:28] <techrights-news> OSI is passing money to Microsoft (ClearlyDefined) and is thus partly a Microsoft front group, promoting proprietary software (GitHub) | Jun 16 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:29] <techrights-news> In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/ | Jun 16 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:29] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights | Jun 16 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights | Jun 16 19:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:29] <techrights-news> OSI is an openwashing corruption hub | Jun 16 19:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, I know how to present this... | Jun 16 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | without all the ethno stuff/staff and name-calling... | Jun 16 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 16 19:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 19:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 16 19:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | rather damning stats | Jun 16 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | phipps was furious when I brought this up about 4 years ago | Jun 16 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | because he could not refute it | Jun 16 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and nobody had shown it like that | Jun 16 19:25 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | he's been pushed to the side by the microsofters though hasn't he? | Jun 16 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know the "inside story" | Jun 16 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I added some bits and published | Jun 16 19:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 16 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will die | Jun 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | some years ago they decided to check in by laundering money for Microsoft | Jun 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it made them look "big" | Jun 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they worked against their own mission | Jun 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft stands only to gain from this | Jun 16 19:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It's too bad that OSI got subverted like that. Initially it was a constructive | Jun 16 19:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | organizatio but that's certainly why it got taken out | Jun 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | all they can do now is ad hominem libel | Jun 16 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like insinuating facts are "homophopobic" | Jun 16 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then try to censor/discourage access to information | Jun 16 19:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes ad hominem means that they have nothing factual or relevant to come back with | Jun 16 19:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they do what they can to try to instigate brigading | Jun 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is also NOT something we can avoid | Jun 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyone can make something up | Jun 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | or leverge lies | Jun 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter what you do | Jun 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF replaced its "Linux" Fdn. blog with politics of perceived tolerance | Jun 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess that makes my criticism of LF an act of racism | Jun 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | earlier today I saw in automated links something that was spinning something as harming trans | Jun 16 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | even though that thing had nothing to do with trans | Jun 16 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like a politicial strategy for riling up online riots | Jun 16 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could dig up the link, I skipped it completely for this reason, | Jun 16 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's not important enough | Jun 16 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes it's about riling up the public and distracting them, bonus if they | Jun 16 19:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | can rally a mob to brigade their targets | Jun 16 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | [23:45] <techrights-news> Bill Gates did not SAY controversial things. He COMMITTED (DID) crimes. Guess who had a petition against him in Microsoft's GitHub and WHY... | Jun 16 19:42 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 19:43 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft important | Jun 16 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 16 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 3) which constitution? | Jun 16 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is not clear how many of them | Jun 16 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | hungary's for sure | Jun 16 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | confirmed by court | Jun 16 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but severak others in other contexts | Jun 16 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can produce links if chanllenged on it | Jun 16 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 16 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | might append "in multiple countries" if there is space | Jun 16 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | mostg coun tries never checked!! | Jun 16 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've looked | Jun 16 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | editing the image would not be easy | Jun 16 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | font from another pgoram | Jun 16 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, second line of defence is yielding links to support the assertation | Jun 16 20:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 16 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is a mini 'story' | Jun 16 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd like to write longer pieces, but first let me get rid of my very shitty job ;) | Jun 16 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the past I said, | Jun 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media is not formality | Jun 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so typos are ok | Jun 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but blogs get judged differently so I am more meticulous and long posts take a long time to check | Jun 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | now the social control media is gone | Jun 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just informal irc | Jun 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe for the better | Jun 16 20:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ak | Jun 16 20:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | making a meme now | Jun 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | humour helps avert a reputation opf grumpy grouch | Jun 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | this will address your point too | Jun 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 16 20:52 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> The first two weren't bad, but then the third made me start forgetting things and having slight pain in my chest for a couple of months. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> And I developed sleep paralysis for the first time ever since the third one. I can't say that it's what caused it, but it's suspicious and still hasn't gone away. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> It mostly strikes when I try to get some sleep during the day and I start hallucinating that there's someone in my apartment that's broken down the door and is coming for my bedroom. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> It's always the same, like they broke in but then they're just standing at the foot of my bed where I can't see them over the cover. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> I hear that this exact thing is pretty common, really, with people who get a sleep paralysis episode. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> It's crazy. It's like, you feel ridiculous even admitting to this, because it's like a five year old that goes into their mom and dad's bedroom and says the monster in the closet scared them. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | better to talk about it here, DaemonFC | Jun 16 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ah, yeah. | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | do you think your sleep issues are connected to the booster? | Jun 16 22:41 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | I don't want the peolple who don't agree with us on software and patents to call us "vaxxer" something | Jun 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's possible. A lot of strange things happened after the third dose, and most of it let up after a month or two. | Jun 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Oh I'm absolutely not an anti-vaxxer. | Jun 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know | Jun 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | me neither | Jun 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | that label lost iots meaning | Jun 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I have all of my recommended adult vaccines and if I travel, I will get my travel shots because I don't want to end up in the Philippines with yellow fever or something. | Jun 16 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Well, we've never had a vaccine this rushed that performed this poorly before. | Jun 16 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Even the flu shots seem to work better than this, and they don't work very well it's just what we have. | Jun 16 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Now they want to pressure people into taking a flu shot and a COVID shot at the same time. | Jun 16 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | That way you're 20% protected from the flu and 5% protected from COVID, I guess. :P | Jun 16 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, All the doctor's offices want you to come in for a flu shot. And I go, "Why? So you can bill me for an office visit for something I can go make my insurance pay 100% for down at literally any pharmacy?". | Jun 16 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Every chance to nickel and dime, you know? | Jun 16 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't hear about this mixing | Jun 16 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | that you speak of | Jun 16 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I heard doctors say they worry about flu shots now, saying these might be contaminated with COVID-19 shots | Jun 16 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Moderna is looking at combining their mRNA flu shot with their COVID shot into a combined shot. | Jun 16 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | to basically give those shot to people who do not yet trust them | Jun 16 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well, contaminated? Unlikely. But, people come in for flu shots, and the pharmacy tech grabs a COVID shot instead. | Jun 16 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | And then once it's in your arm, what do you do? | Jun 16 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | So if you go into the pharmacy, look at what they're about to inject you with before it goes in. | Jun 16 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's going to become an issue | Jun 16 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have patents on covid stuff | Jun 16 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the flu shots don't cost as much | Jun 16 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | patents | Jun 16 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | my sister will get married and now I have a strong excuse for not attending | Jun 16 22:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless they want someone double-masked and shouting at people to stay 2 meters away :-) | Jun 16 22:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and my own table ;-) | Jun 16 22:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine what photo-taking will be like | Jun 16 22:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could come in hazmet suit | Jun 16 22:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then take photos OK | Jun 16 22:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | oxygen tank to last 3-5 hours | Jun 16 22:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | "is that your brother?" | Jun 16 22:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: earlier today in my blog I wropte about 4th shot | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | only about 6 months ago (dec. iirc) | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | they concluded a study | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | after they had given 4th dozen to maybe hundreds of people | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and observed | Jun 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> "is that your brother?" | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | they came to the conclusion it did not help | Jun 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | "Emphysema!" | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like placebo | Jun 16 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they did not use the term placebo, obviously | Jun 16 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the third dose didn't have a big effect either. | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so to me.. | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | make a better vaccine | Jun 16 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | But the fourth one is like nothing at all. | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you're done making a GOOD vaccine | Jun 16 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | And they're going to start offering them at the nursing homes. | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | AND tested it | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I may take it | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | just like ALL the other vaccines I took | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | that had been used and tested for nearly a century | Jun 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. some vaccines a few years ago | Jun 16 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: go to: | Jun 16 22:52 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/ | Jun 16 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Jun 16 22:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR | totally not antivaxx, the exact opposite | Jun 16 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I call our our politicians for downplaying the problem | Jun 16 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Jun 16 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | lately I've heard of sleep issue | Jun 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just from you | Jun 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to "prove" any vaccine is connected to it | Jun 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | because not much is know | Jun 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | *known | Jun 16 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, the only thing I can do about it now is not take any more. | Jun 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see you arguing in that other channel | Jun 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me ask you | Jun 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you are 60+ and take a flu shot | Jun 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | is there expectation of the body repelling the flu before you show symptoms? | Jun 16 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be indicative of effective shots | Jun 16 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | when the body does not let the virus settle in and build up to quantity | Jun 16 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I can gather, high-profile boosters (and profiteers) of the COVID shows | Jun 16 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | *shots | Jun 16 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | fails to curb COVID | Jun 16 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then started relying on pills and such | Jun 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | very expensive care | Jun 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | They have a high dose flu shot for old people. | Jun 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | that only they and Trump can afford | Jun 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and which has nothing to do with the jabs | Jun 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | My grandmother took two flu shots. | Jun 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | One in August and one in January. | Jun 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they rely on an expensive second line of denfence | Jun 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my blog you can see the latest numbers | Jun 16 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've gone from | Jun 16 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "|et's eradicate this" | Jun 16 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | to | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's stop it killing people" | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | to | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's vaccine so that when we get it, which will happen, it won't send us to hospital" | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's vaccine so that when we get it, which will happen, it won't kill us" | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | basically lowering our expectations of success | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we all get this shot | Jun 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they push it to kids | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like that'll make a dent | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's becoming comical | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a bunker-like setup here | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | with open doors and yard | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | i just don't get exposed to unknown people | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I should be fine like this | Jun 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | until the gov. figures out what the heck its covid strategy is | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll soon exceed 200k covid-linked deaths here | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it keeps growing | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and from what I hear | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | people have side effects either from the shots or the virus | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or both | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I'm not interested in either for now | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I camp it out | Jun 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | until we know what's true and what's unadulterated marketing | Jun 16 23:15 |
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