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schestowitz-TRIn the Age of Misleading Media (the System Relies on Induced Optimism) One Must Check Medical Facts for Oneself https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/medical-facts/Jan 17 07:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » In the Age of Misleading Media (the System Relies on Induced Optimism) One Must Check Medical Facts for OneselfJan 17 07:10
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.pussthecat.org/MarkBeacham/status/1615154394764394497#mJan 17 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Mark Beacham - VK3XB/5Z4XB/A65B 🇺🇦 (@MarkBeacham): "Ham Radio: Links 16/01/2023: Microsoft RNDIS Ejected From Linux https://ift.tt/mQiNhXz" | Nitter | PussTheCat.orgJan 17 07:52
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.pussthecat.org/luicito_chavez/status/1615220244431396865#mJan 17 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Luicito Chavez (@luicito_chavez): "techrights.org/author/schest…" | Nitter | PussTheCat.orgJan 17 07:52
techrigthssecackJan 17 07:52
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schestowitz-TRhad a productive night so farJan 17 08:09
schestowitz-TRons #s will be out soonJan 17 08:09
techrigthssecackJan 17 08:09
schestowitz-TRI want to compare those to prior yearsJan 17 08:09
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schestowitz-TRseems like good news if idg cans its old sitesJan 17 08:37
schestowitz-TRfor all i care, can all the old "content" tooJan 17 08:37
schestowitz-TRlots of crap in thereJan 17 08:37
schestowitz-TRbetter buriedJan 17 08:37
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schestowitz-TRmy open office (two words) experience was so shit that I promised myself never to do itJan 17 09:09
schestowitz-TRit's bad for many things inc. healthJan 17 09:09
techrigthssecThere are countless studies showing that open plan office spaces are dreadfulJan 17 09:20
techrigthssecfor both morale and for productivityJan 17 09:20
schestowitz-TRthey help create and cement BS jobsJan 17 09:20
techrigthssecand, as you point out, health (through stress and germs)\Jan 17 09:21
techrigthssecThat's the main reason they are in use still even a little bit. Jan 17 09:21
schestowitz-TRpeople who insist they are OK "working at the office"Jan 17 09:23
schestowitz-TRtypially turn out to be foxes in the vineyardJan 17 09:23
schestowitz-TRthe grapes are sour anywayJan 17 09:23
schestowitz-TRiow, they're not given a choiceJan 17 09:23
schestowitz-TRthey must be at the office x daysJan 17 09:23
schestowitz-TRperhaps today many at microsoft will be given indefinite "sick leave"Jan 17 09:25
schestowitz-TRno pay, don't bother coming backJan 17 09:25
techrigthssecor unpaid "leave"Jan 17 09:25
schestowitz-TRno kidding, intel ireland did it blatantly and openly months agoJan 17 09:26
schestowitz-TRHR gettinc "creative"Jan 17 09:26
techrigthssecgemini.techrights.org/2023/01/17/rebranding-plagiarism-as-hey-hi/Jan 17 09:52
techrigthssecwho is the quote in the summary from ?Jan 17 09:52
techrigthssectm-new gallery updated Jan 17 09:52
techrigthssecbread crumb links modified this timeJan 17 09:53
techrigthssecnft -f /etc/nftables.nft to clear the black listJan 17 09:53
schestowitz-TREnquiry Sent to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) Regarding 'Missing' Deaths in the United Kingdom https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/office-for-national-statistics-enquiry/Jan 17 10:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Enquiry Sent to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) Regarding ‘Missing’ Deaths in the United KingdomJan 17 10:11
schestowitz-TRfantastic work on tuxgalleryJan 17 10:13
schestowitz-TRso far no errors encountered!Jan 17 10:13
schestowitz-TRthe 'tux museum' will be cheaper to keep alive this wayJan 17 10:13
schestowitz-TRIn 2023, England and Wales Deaths More Than 22% Higher Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/2023-and-pre-covid-19-levels/Jan 17 10:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » In 2023, England and Wales Deaths More Than 22% Higher Than Pre-COVID-19 LevelsJan 17 10:31
schestowitz-TRWeek 1 Deaths in England and Wales: In 2023 a 31.2% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 15-44, 27% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 45-64 (Compared to Pre-COVID) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/ons-week-1-deaths-england-and-wales-by-age/Jan 17 10:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Week 1 Deaths in England and Wales: In 2023 a 31.2% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 15-44, 27% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 45-64 (Compared to Pre-COVID)Jan 17 10:49
schestowitz-TRtwitter needs a a boycott already. let it collapse. ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/covid-19-drugmaker-pushed-twitter-to-censor-activists-demanding-generic-vaccine | Source: Common DreamsJan 17 11:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | 'Deeply Sinister': Emails Reveal Big Pharma Pushed Twitter to Silence Vaccine Equity VoicesJan 17 11:29
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techrigthssecThere are some redundant files to trim from it now but that can be done in Jan 17 13:45
techrigthsseca whileJan 17 13:45
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schestowitz-TRjust had a discussion about quitting thingsJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRwe are now 100% mumbleJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRrianne 100% vegJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRi'm 100% off social control mediaJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRand stopped with football cold turkeyJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRthere are other examplesJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRbut with gulag noise I still check sometimesJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRe.g. msft layoffsJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRjust updated a post of mineJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRnow I'm 90%+ sure it's happeningJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRazure might be impacted tooJan 17 14:09
schestowitz-TR"eskiko" was shilling azure BS in IRC todayJan 17 14:10
schestowitz-TRI was not happy about gut feeling rather than facts re azureJan 17 14:10
techrigthssecGreat, though confirming the layoffs first is important.  However they'kkJan 17 14:21
techrigthssecdo what they can to hide and misdirect and delay.Jan 17 14:21
schestowitz-TRthey know it damages moraleJan 17 14:21
schestowitz-TRso we need to keep at itJan 17 14:21
psydruidhence all this PR about HEY HIJan 17 14:24
psydruidto mask the fact that Azure is not doing wellJan 17 14:25
psydruidand many people are getting firedJan 17 14:25
schestowitz-TRrightJan 17 14:27
techrigthssecIt also damages their share prices which they then have to spend/embezzleJan 17 14:27
techrigthsseceven more funds to pump up artificially when they do the "share repurchase"Jan 17 14:27
techrigthssecThe have spare resources for playing with AI through the severely overprovisioned "Azure" hosting which is substaJan 17 14:37
techrigthssecntially devoid of paying clients.  Jan 17 14:37
techrigthssecIt's probably costing them more than they can afford to have all thatJan 17 14:37
techrigthssecdead servers space going to waste so they might as well run ML algorithms onJan 17 14:37
techrigthssecit and try to spin that as a positive in the PR and among their shills.Jan 17 14:37
schestowitz-TRthey already shut down some datacentresJan 17 14:38
schestowitz-TRbut the media picked up on thisJan 17 14:38
schestowitz-TRand it made azure look like the failure it isJan 17 14:38
schestowitz-TRthey also frantically came to our irc chatJan 17 14:38
schestowitz-TRafter we had written repeatedly about azure layoffsJan 17 14:38
schestowitz-TRto downplay what's happeningJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRlewis wrote some articles on the failure that is azureJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRbased on insidersJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRso azure has, in effect, been converted into a plagiarism machineJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRpay your subscription fees to do your plagiarism with Microsoft's helpJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRtext... images... codeJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRplagiarism as a service as I call itJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRthe new ebuzz video mentions the media bias and omission of class action lawsuiotJan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRthere is now a new lawsuit over copyrights in image "HEY HI"Jan 17 14:39
schestowitz-TRbasically sites that help create "derivatives" of artists' good workJan 17 14:39
techrigthssecThe eBuzz video nails the problem, no mainstream media at all has raised anyJan 17 14:59
techrigthssecof the key issues.Jan 17 14:59
schestowitz-TRit took me a bit of time to realise all this fake hype is part of a PR campaignJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRone mainly one companyJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRlike with "github", they hide behind other brandsJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRmusk said on the recdord that 'open HEY HI had been hijacked by MSFT years agoJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRas if "HEY HI" was a nnew thingJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRmoney buys perceptionJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRlook up "SCIGEN"Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRcirca 2004Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRnow they say things like "Office" will have this HEY HIJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRand "Bing"Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TR"HEY HI"Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRtry it out!!! HEY HIJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRBing having layoffsJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRpixie dust "HEY HI"Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TReven nadella's head will have HEY HIJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRof course schneier had to massively participate in the hype campaignJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRmaybe without realising he had been taken for a ride by conde nasty [sic] i.e. microsoftJan 17 15:02
schestowitz-TRsam varghese wrote about this fake hype 2 days ago Jan 17 15:02
techrigthssecOh.  I may have missed Sam's article, since ITWire doesn't get checked so oftenJan 17 15:08
techrigthssecany more. Jan 17 15:08
schestowitz-TRhe barely published anything anymore, like it's "seasonal"Jan 17 15:08
schestowitz-TRsam quoted an aexpert responding to microsoft bullshit that had been relayed by MS Schneier, iirc viaJan 17 15:10
schestowitz-TRConde NastyJan 17 15:10
schestowitz-TRhe links a lot to Conde and "new" Slashdot Jan 17 15:10
schestowitz-TRtons of crapJan 17 15:10
schestowitz-TRI sigh a lot when seeing him posting new stuffJan 17 15:10
schestowitz-TRnow he's shilling his book that perpetuates myths about "hacker"Jan 17 15:10
techrigthssecSlashdot turned to crap after the first sale and still managed to go downhillJan 17 15:12
techrigthssecfrom there.  Jan 17 15:12
techrigthssec I guess it's owned by BIZX last I can tell.  Dice and Conde NastJan 17 15:13
techrigthssecdid their damage and kicked it down the road.Jan 17 15:13
schestowitz-TRare you sure conde nasty owned it?Jan 17 15:14
techrigthssecNot sure if I recall correctlyJan 17 15:14
schestowitz-TRi think that is not correctJan 17 15:15
schestowitz-TRbut dice i remember, now it's this guy loganJan 17 15:16
schestowitz-TRwho came to TR IRCJan 17 15:16
schestowitz-TRto try to coivince us things would improve and wanted to make a good first impressionJan 17 15:16
schestowitz-TRi think dice was even worse tbhJan 17 15:16
schestowitz-TRthey activbely promoted gates liesJan 17 15:16
schestowitz-TRand even employed microsoft molesJan 17 15:16
techrigthssecConde Nast still owns Ars Technica and what remains of WiredJan 17 15:16
techrigthssecand "Reddit"Jan 17 15:18
techrigthssecAt least one m$ shill seems to have been planted in Slashdot prior to theJan 17 15:18
techrigthssecsale to Dice, if I recall the timing correctly.  It certainly was under Jan 17 15:18
techrigthssecattack thenJan 17 15:18
schestowitz-TRconde used New Yorker to compel 'L'F to put Torvalds in the clinicJan 17 15:20
schestowitz-TRthey 'settled' on thatJan 17 15:20
schestowitz-TRafter crazy scum mjg and his other ilk of crzzied kept libeling the man who wanted Jan 17 15:20
schestowitz-TRto keep quality control and goals in checkJan 17 15:20
schestowitz-TRRebeccaBlackOS is hardly used by anyone. Larabel uses that to shill crappy Wayland. Hey, RebeccaBlackOS doesn't need to worry about stability and compatibility. It's a JOKE distro. For JOKERS like Phorpnix. https://www.phoronix.com/news/RBOS-January-2023Jan 17 15:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-RBOS Updated As The Linux Live Environment Showcasing The Latest Wayland Code - PhoronixJan 17 15:22
techrigthssecIt was the New Yorker article which set off the lynch mob in earnest wasn't it.Jan 17 15:23
schestowitz-TRaJan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRs people pointed out in LWN, New Yorker demanded action BEFORE publicationJan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRthen LF agreed to put aside TorvaldsJan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRhence, the headline at the New Yorker reported the "outcome"Jan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRso it was a work behing the sceneJan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRto get Torvalds "fired"Jan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRfamiliar?Jan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRdirt diggingJan 17 15:24
schestowitz-TRLT became sacrificial lamb for LFJan 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRto "protect" its (Microsoft) brandJan 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRLF does not value the person who made the "L"Jan 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRunless he conforms e.g. rust (github/google)Jan 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRnwo there is very little resistance to lockdown and palladium inside linuxJan 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRdon't expect LT to act better than tim bl on DRMJan 17 15:26
techrigthssecscape goat actuallyJan 17 15:27
techrigthssecHe remains only as a mascot, if one goes by appearances Jan 17 15:27
psydruidGates is the master and Torvalds the puppet, at lastJan 17 15:34
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schestowitz-TRwe've been getting perl errors, both accounts, when trying to add or update TMJan 17 21:35
schestowitz-TRwas anything changed on the system?Jan 17 21:35
schestowitz-TRit says it lacks the Capture/Tiny.pm moduleJan 17 21:35
schestowitz-TRfixed with apk add perl-capture-tinyJan 17 21:35
schestowitz-TRdid you change something a few hours ago (around 7pm GMT)?Jan 17 21:36
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: MSFT layoffsJan 17 22:25
schestowitz-TRthink of that as a treatJan 17 22:25
schestowitz-TRthey're hurtingJan 17 22:25
schestowitz-TRlet's do another roundJan 17 22:25
psydruidthe more layoffs the betterJan 17 22:25
schestowitz-TRuntil there's no Microsoft left or very littleJan 17 22:25
psydruiduntil all employees have been laid offJan 17 22:25
schestowitz-TRyeah, more is betterJan 17 22:25
schestowitz-TRthen, if Microsoft is busted, they cannot spread windows eitherJan 17 22:25
psydruidand the leadership has kicked the curbJan 17 22:26
schestowitz-TRno microsoft crap left to spread to companyJan 17 22:26
schestowitz-TRcompanies, unis, etc.Jan 17 22:26
psydruidthe single most malicious company everJan 17 22:26
schestowitz-TRno github :-)Jan 17 22:26
schestowitz-TRofflineJan 17 22:26
schestowitz-TR"BUT ME REPOS!!!"Jan 17 22:26
psydruidprobably even worse than IBM in its reachJan 17 22:26
schestowitz-TR"BUT MY LIKES/STARS!!"Jan 17 22:26
psydruidbecause there weren't as many computers during IBM's heydayJan 17 22:27
schestowitz-TR"oh noes; azure is shutting down like codeplex"Jan 17 22:27
psydruidand there were more companies that competed with one anotherJan 17 22:27
schestowitz-TRyeahJan 17 22:27
schestowitz-TRconcentration of power is always harmfulJan 17 22:27
psydruidmost of them with their own Unix variantJan 17 22:27
schestowitz-TRthey don't need to compete as muchJan 17 22:28
psydruidMicrosoft has really caused a race to the bottomJan 17 22:28
psydruidin terms of everything to do with IT and CSJan 17 22:28
schestowitz-TRexactlyJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TRwe've discussed it here in IRCJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TRthat's not to say that no microsoft-> utopiaJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TRwe'll still have other perilsJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TRbut MSFT being like Novell (defunct) would be a step in the right directionJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TResp. for GNU/LinuxJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TRand FOSSJan 17 22:29
schestowitz-TRbecause only one company attacks those THAT muchJan 17 22:30
psydruidwithout Microsoft sabotage and distraction constructive work can be done againJan 17 22:30
schestowitz-TRyes, but there will be other barriersJan 17 22:30
schestowitz-TRthe other obstacles may included GulagJan 17 22:30
schestowitz-TRGulag also doe snot like GPLJan 17 22:30
psydruidGulag is fortunately peripheral to most end user computingJan 17 22:30
schestowitz-TReither way, today/tomorrow will be a good milestoneJan 17 22:31
psydruidand doesn't own GNU or LinuxJan 17 22:31
schestowitz-TRnow I want to know what divisions are cut the mostJan 17 22:31
schestowitz-TRazure? github?Jan 17 22:31
psydruidno single company doesJan 17 22:31
schestowitz-TRwindows?Jan 17 22:31
schestowitz-TRwe'll find out soonJan 17 22:31
psydruidhopefully all of them all of the timeJan 17 22:31
schestowitz-TRit's a momentum thingJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRonce you cut it gets worseJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRlike, fire windows devsJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRand Windows Update introduces more bugsJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRso people cannot rebootJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRor lose fileJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRand that leds Windows down some death spiralJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRif the corrupt media will start covering GNU/LinuxJan 17 22:32
schestowitz-TRinstead of pretending the choice is about WHICH VERSIOn of WindowsJan 17 22:32
psydruidwhat made it clear to me that there is no way back is that the various incarnations of Windows Phone are dead and buriedJan 17 22:33
psydruidif it was so easy they could have just recompiled all applications and owned the "smartphone" market tooJan 17 22:33
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft seldom announes something is deadJan 17 22:34
schestowitz-TRwith atom editor they said "sunsetting"Jan 17 22:34
psydruidbut they were greedy and paranoid so they launched several incompatible versionsJan 17 22:34
schestowitz-TRsilverlight, zune....Jan 17 22:34
psydruidthey should have stuck with a pure ARM port of desktop WindowsJan 17 22:34
schestowitz-TRmsft layoffs bad news for amd and intelJan 17 22:35
psydruidbut their stupidity is our gainJan 17 22:35
schestowitz-TRbad news for larabelJan 17 22:35
psydruidonce you have applications running on your operating system it becomes a juggernautJan 17 22:36
psydruidwhich is why free software is unstoppableJan 17 22:36
psydruideverything gets updates to work together all the timeJan 17 22:36
psydruidlarabel will cling to ARM or whatever replaces Intel and AMDJan 17 22:37
schestowitz-TRanyway, just told rianneJan 17 22:41
schestowitz-TRshe is happy about this whole thingJan 17 22:41
schestowitz-TR"good job, lads!"Jan 17 22:41
schestowitz-TRlet's do another round of demolition at MicrosoftJan 17 22:41
psydruidhttps://illumos.org/docs/contributing/qds/Jan 17 22:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-illumos.org | Quality Death Spiral - illumosJan 17 22:42
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: larabel is already in deep s***Jan 17 22:42
schestowitz-TRif you check his appeals for moneyJan 17 22:42
schestowitz-TRas it's harder to break even with these energy pricesJan 17 22:42
schestowitz-TRi need phoronix... for links about kernel devJan 17 22:43
schestowitz-TRjust the linksJan 17 22:43
schestowitz-TRas nobody else daoes thatJan 17 22:43
schestowitz-TR15 years ago a site called KernelTrap did thatJan 17 22:43
schestowitz-TRit requires deepm kernel knowledgeJan 17 22:43
schestowitz-TRLWN is not very activeJan 17 22:43
psydruidif you sell out like he has done and you still can't pay the bills, you may be doing something wrongJan 17 22:43
schestowitz-TRmaybe an article per day onlyJan 17 22:43
psydruidI don't really follow LWN or Phoronix for kernel stuffJan 17 22:44
psydruidI read the O'Reilly books about 15 years agoJan 17 22:44
psydruidI need to read modern onesJan 17 22:44
psydruidto get an idea of the current stateJan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRlinux is... weirdJan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRlet me explainJan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRlinux has a "core"Jan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRthat is not THAT bigJan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRthey cull old codeJan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRbut a lot of the code is vendor-specificJan 17 22:45
schestowitz-TRand nobody except one or few companies know itJan 17 22:46
schestowitz-TRso something like schedular evolvesJan 17 22:46
schestowitz-TRbut a lot of the code is in things like massive drivers for GPUsJan 17 22:46
schestowitz-TR*schedulerJan 17 22:46
schestowitz-TRso you never really know "Linux"Jan 17 22:46
schestowitz-TRthen you have massive drivers for hypervisorsJan 17 22:46
psydruidyou can only know a part of Linux and then it keeps moving forward (or backward)Jan 17 22:47
schestowitz-TRyes, notice con kolivas is no longer botheringJan 17 22:51
schestowitz-TRhe said it had grown too bigJan 17 22:51
psydruidI don't bother, even though I know my way around the codeJan 17 22:52
psydruidand I have no plans to take up a Linux kernel developer jobJan 17 22:52
psydruideven though ARM offered me one a few years ago to work on Linux/KVMJan 17 22:53
psydruidthere is just too much BS going around in that communityJan 17 22:54
schestowitz-TRnot sureJan 17 22:55
schestowitz-TRit can pay wellJan 17 22:55
schestowitz-TRand if you like c, it's not a bad career=Jan 17 22:55
schestowitz-TRlinux won't go away any time soonJan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRI could probably become a linux developersJan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRbecause it's in cJan 17 22:56
psydruidI'm not interestedJan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRbut... steep learning curveJan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRgit mailing lists, structure, APIsJan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRand even then your patches might be considered "risky"Jan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRand thus not pushedJan 17 22:56
schestowitz-TRso you can spend months working on just a patch ~1000 lines of codeJan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRtesting and refining itJan 17 22:57
psydruidjust too much red tape for me to feel productiveJan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRat that point,Jan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRseveral linux releases were outJan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRlike 6.0, 6.1Jan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRwith "rust now available"Jan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRso you're always chasing yesterday's kernelJan 17 22:57
schestowitz-TRand your code becomes obsolete a few years laterJan 17 22:58
psydruidbut it might be a good job for you, if you are interestedJan 17 22:58
psydruidI think you just focus on a specific subsystemJan 17 22:58
psydruidand yes, it will become obsolete and be in need of updatingJan 17 22:59
psydruidbut that's what you get paid forJan 17 22:59
psydruidI might end up at CapGemini in the short term while working on my plans for the longer termJan 17 23:00
schestowitz-TRarm had MANY layofgsJan 17 23:01
psydruidI've finally been seriouslu learning web programming for the past few days on freecodecamp.orgJan 17 23:01
schestowitz-TRone third iircJan 17 23:01
schestowitz-TR*layoffsJan 17 23:01
psydruidseriously*Jan 17 23:01
psydruidthat's why I learned ARM assembly and immediately after RISC-VJan 17 23:02
psydruidnow anything I write for ARM I port it to RISC-V soon afterJan 17 23:03
schestowitz-TRiirc, that codecamp has microsoft boostersJan 17 23:04
schestowitz-TRif that's the site i removed from rssJan 17 23:04
psydruidthe biggest burden will be porting things back to x86Jan 17 23:04
psydruidprobablyJan 17 23:04
psydruidbut I'm concerned about learning stuff, I couldn't care much about the site itselfJan 17 23:04
psydruidso far I haven't come across anything Microsoft-specificJan 17 23:05
schestowitz-TRLarabel: AMD is sending me dozens of expensive CPUs (list here is just Ryzen series, not EPYC) https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-core-i5-13400/2Jan 17 23:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Intel Core i5 13400 Linux Performance - Raptor Lake 10 Cores / 16 Threads For $239 Review - PhoronixJan 17 23:06
schestowitz-TRmaybe they sent him over 100 by nowJan 17 23:06
schestowitz-TRbut EPYC is the jewelJan 17 23:06
schestowitz-TRsure, overpricedJan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRbut you can offload them in ebay for 5k apieceJan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRand I doubt he truly needs that manyJan 17 23:07
psydruidthe jewel of the nileJan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRAMD reckons it's cheap to send loads of theseJan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRthen he starts peddling AMD PlutonJan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRand clownJan 17 23:07
psydruidmaybe no one else wants themJan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TR(azure)Jan 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRyes, they are overpricedJan 17 23:08
psydruidAMD and Intel are caught in betweenJan 17 23:08
schestowitz-TRmaybe they have excess stock nowJan 17 23:08
psydruidlots of competitors are coming up nowJan 17 23:08
schestowitz-TRas a business, I'd not spend $10,000 just for a CPUJan 17 23:08
schestowitz-TReven 120+ coresJan 17 23:08
psydruidthey're essentially a legacy product for running an obsolete and irrelevant operating systemJan 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRi worked with companies that had CPUs like theseJan 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRand like 90% of the time nothing runs on themJan 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRoverprovisioned to the extremeJan 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRand if they run something they need fastJan 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRit might finish minutes/hours laterJan 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRthen idling for a dayJan 17 23:10
schestowitz-TRso it's uneconomicJan 17 23:10
schestowitz-TRbetter to have several low powered machinesJan 17 23:10
schestowitz-TRyou can turn them off when you don't need themJan 17 23:10
psydruidpeople will need fewer and fewer of themJan 17 23:10
schestowitz-TRlast year I started to turn off my screens when afkJan 17 23:10
schestowitz-TRdue to rising costs of energyJan 17 23:10
psydruidthat's what I do at homeJan 17 23:10
psydruidwhen I don't need much -> ARMJan 17 23:10
psydruidwhen I need more compute power -> x86 laptop (up to 3/4)Jan 17 23:11
psydruidin the clown they are supposed to run at 90% capacity at all timeJan 17 23:12
psydruidthey can ask $10,000 due to monopoly rentsJan 17 23:14
psydruidas was mentioned earlier hereJan 17 23:14
schestowitz-TRrightJan 17 23:15
psydruidwhen they have to compete on equal footing prices will have to dropJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRthey might say "R&d"Jan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRcode for "patents"Jan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRor ripoffJan 17 23:15
psydruidGNU/Linux is the big equaliserJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRbut those dies don't cost much to makeJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRthey overchargeJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRand with so many cores I'd struggle to find useJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TReven video processingJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRyou finish fasterJan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRand then what???Jan 17 23:15
schestowitz-TRI run ffmpeg nice'dJan 17 23:15
psydruidI would only ever buy and run one for a private clownJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRmy PCs are under-utilised alreadyJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRatm I use 4 of themJan 17 23:16
psydruidto let many developers and users access it at the same timeJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRwith 8 screensJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRwith two raspi working in the backgroundJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRone does almost nothingJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRshows weather and recipesJan 17 23:16
schestowitz-TRPhoronix is an Apple site today? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-M2-Pro-M2-Max relevance to Linux? NOTHING.Jan 17 23:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Apple Launches The M2 Pro & M2 Max + New Mac Mini With M2 / M2 Pro - PhoronixJan 17 23:18
psydruidI bought a cheap used Sun SPARC rack server years ago for testing Linux at about the same time I bought my first ARM SBC and an old Powermac G5Jan 17 23:19
psydruidafter a few years all that expensive hardware ends up on eBayJan 17 23:20
schestowitz-TRi no longer use arm on hereJan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRthe arm machine I gave to rianneJan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRshe uses two arm machines nowJan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRi used to have 5 laptops hereJan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRnow it's done to 4, with 8 screens, not 9 or 10Jan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRit was too much anywayJan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRI consolidated a bitJan 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRrianne now uses 3 machines, I use 4+1 (pi)Jan 17 23:23
schestowitz-TRand the power bills are not insane at allJan 17 23:23
psydruidpower consumption is one of the main criteria nowJan 17 23:24
psydruidI optimize for that when the performance is already adequateJan 17 23:25
schestowitz-TRwe even pay less than beforeJan 17 23:25
schestowitz-TRbecause of the gov. schemeJan 17 23:25
schestowitz-TR66 a monthJan 17 23:25
psydruidand that will get more important over timeJan 17 23:25
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: my scarcity is timeJan 17 23:26
schestowitz-TRand more screens can save timeJan 17 23:26
psydruidI want to minimise my bills and get the best performance while doing soJan 17 23:26
schestowitz-TRso I don't need to move between virtual desktopsJan 17 23:26
schestowitz-TRCPU power is not the scarcityJan 17 23:26
schestowitz-TRvideo processing is the only very heavy task hereJan 17 23:26
schestowitz-TRtakes up maybe 1-2 hours per day on just one machineJan 17 23:27
schestowitz-TRand next month we should get fibre Jan 17 23:27
psydruidif I do need more performance I start one of the fast laptopsJan 17 23:27
schestowitz-TR20 years ago with fedora and suse... wake on lanJan 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRwith sleep or hibernationmJan 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRso you can access lab machines overnightJan 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRusing nfsJan 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRand then run simulations on whole clusters of computersJan 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRfor the CPU capacityJan 17 23:33
schestowitz-TRwas very common even thenJan 17 23:33
schestowitz-TRfor my phd I needed to run very big jobsJan 17 23:33
psydruidI'll see what I can do in the futureJan 17 23:38
psydruidbut I don't know what the future will bringJan 17 23:39

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