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| schestowitz-TR2 | what do you make of El Reg? | Oct 17 13:47 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | El Reg was very good back in its day. But that ended in 2002 or 2003, | Oct 17 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when they signed the partnership with M$. Then in recent years they | Oct 17 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | were starting to show signs of partial recovery but of late I really avoid | Oct 17 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | them. They're not as bad as ZDNet but not worth the effort to look at still. | Oct 17 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, I can relate. btw, I've just watched https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Hce1SR48f34 to better understand that twitter mob that Pieter Hitjens was complaining about (same one that tries to have a go at GNU and Linux) | Oct 17 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Dave Chappelle - Daphane Story (The Closer) - Invidious | Oct 17 14:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tl;dr they even kill their own | Oct 17 14:36 |
| Techrights-sec | El Reg was very good back in its day. But that ended in 2002 or 2003, | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | when they signed the partnership with M$. Then in recent years they | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | were starting to show signs of partial recovery but of late I really avoid | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | them. They're not as bad as ZDNet but not worth the effort to look at still. | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | yep it's about tearing down, nothing more nothing less | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | IMO it's all about them finding people or things that can be torn down | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | for no other reason than it is possible to do so. | Oct 17 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne: "because they are miserable" | Oct 17 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | that too; misery loves company; but if one wants to be thoughtful about them, | Oct 17 14:40 |
| Techrights-sec | it is important to consider that they are just being used as catspaw | Oct 17 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | should we do a sort of partial boycott of el reg, wherein the only exception is when they cover Linux (with The Guardian, that too never happens) | Oct 17 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | side note (not the main issue): months ago they redid theit site in a way that 'spams' Google News by SEO, in effect adding to article portions from other (totally unrelated) articles, so they flood my feeds | Oct 17 14:45 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm ok with that. I already avoid it completely. | Oct 17 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to avoid temptation to link I need to figure out a way to not even see it | Oct 17 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok. I checked and I've linked to it a few times in recent years but will | Oct 17 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ignore it now. Should I add it to my reminder script about bullshit sites? | Oct 17 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Sometimes they do good coverage. What I worry about is, they do lots of paid-for SPAM and Microsoft churnalism. Linking to the site fuels the latter. | Oct 17 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | If they've become churnalism then the occasional decent story is only | Oct 17 14:51 |
| Techrights-sec | bait in the trap. | Oct 17 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same thing in 'tech' republic | Oct 17 14:51 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, quite a few do that. Outside of tech it's common, too. One of many | Oct 17 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | would be The Guardian. They cover certain topics regularly with care, but | Oct 17 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | then only use that to attract an audience which they then subject to | Oct 17 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | propaganda on certain topics. | Oct 17 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | That's not common knowledge sadly, maybe I'll mention that in passing some day; all my videos are EPO-focused now, as it's something quite timeless and unique | Oct 17 14:54 |
| Techrights-sec | ^certain other topics | Oct 17 14:54 |
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| Techrights-sec | EPO and the fight against software patents are where TR is unique for the | Oct 17 14:57 |
| Techrights-sec | moment, and probably where the best ROI can be found on effort. | Oct 17 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | soon shithub too... :-) | Oct 17 14:57 |
| Techrights-sec | GitHub is another problem it was only half bad at first but after it got | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | bought out / sold out then it is all bad. I figure it was a defensive | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | maneuver by M$ to also gain surveillance over competitors, but more to | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | shut them down and control them. Similar to Mojang. They'll never | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | recover that money but they did shut down a gateway for kids to learn about | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | GNU/Linux and the very existence of non-M$ systems. | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | M$ itself is only about 4/5 of the problem. On top of what it does itself, | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | there is also the fact that various nation states exploit it as a vehicle | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | for nefarious works. | Oct 17 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | Hence the continued bailouts via "contracts", like JEDI. | Oct 17 15:09 |
| activelow | github/git succeeded because it offered decent services, and was acquired because of it | Oct 17 15:49 |
| activelow | and that's why probably many won't leave github, and even without an account there most gnu/linux systems pull their sources from, github | Oct 17 15:50 |
| activelow | at least git is agnostic towards the web service hoster | Oct 17 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: it's a trap | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | run at a loss | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to sell CPU power | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | subsidised | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to be a trap | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's more of a reason to abandon it | Oct 17 15:53 |
| activelow | github is more important than facebook, imo | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you're riding a trap if you are there | Oct 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "ohh, the water is warm here" | Oct 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then it boiled | Oct 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: both are harmful | Oct 17 15:54 |
| activelow | at least a git repo can be cloned to anywhere else desired | Oct 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the word "important" begs the question, "who to?" | Oct 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: that does not make it benign | Oct 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you could also wget some zip file | Oct 17 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | under-playing the threat is risky | Oct 17 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this is why we'll do a long series | Oct 17 15:55 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR2: i consider the situation worse when subversion/cvs dominated, because their repos couldn't not be cloned | Oct 17 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe but... | Oct 17 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we already have other git hosts | Oct 17 16:00 |
| activelow | could not be cloned, with svn/cvs a server shut down removed the entire project history, not so with git | Oct 17 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | techrights has that in gemini | Oct 17 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | do you want is downloadable over gemini? | Oct 17 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gemini is bad at large files | Oct 17 16:01 |
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| activelow | schestowitz-TR2: i signed up with github before microsoft acquired it, and i'll terminate the account, yes. but i will do so because i consider the entire tech industry hostile, not only microsoft. | Oct 17 16:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: you are correct | Oct 17 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need to go back to basics | Oct 17 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and build it back up properly | Oct 17 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like, no DRM in hypertext | Oct 17 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no 'secure' boot | Oct 17 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's YOUR computer | Oct 17 16:07 |
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