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| schestowitz | Re: Exclusive Early Media Access to Lex Machina's 2020 Trade Secret Litigation Report | Apr 18 03:47 |
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| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > I am very sorry that I frustrated you and I will not pitch you ever | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > again. We just wanted to share information to help support our client. I | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > saw your tweet last night and I would really appreciate it if you could | Apr 18 03:47 |
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| schestowitz | > please consider deleting it as it reflects negatively on our client. | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > Again, we will not send you any more pitches. | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks, | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > -- | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 03:47 |
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| schestowitz | > Candice Stokes | Apr 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | Re: for publication/whatever | Apr 18 03:50 |
| schestowitz | > nothing at all to do with you, tom or alex. i put up with this kind of thing for years on end, and feel obliged to comment on it occasionally. i dont insist that its a good idea. its possible that its fair. its even possible that theres a worthwhile point made. and theres a tiny, tiny, tiny chance that at least one person will get it. wouldnt that be something? | Apr 18 03:50 |
| schestowitz | Cheers, I am taking a look now.... | Apr 18 03:50 |
| schestowitz | Re: SoftMaker FreeOffice.. | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | Jordan Popov wrote on 17/04/2020 16:35: | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, FreeOffice, although free, is proprietary software indeed. No prob, as a Linux user I'm aware that not everyone in the Linux community would like to see endorsement of a proprietary stuff. Anyway thanks for spending the time to have a look. | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > Best regards, | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | > Jordan | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | Thanks Jodan. Have a nice weekend! | Apr 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | Were you guys to liberate it, that would open up many doors. | Apr 18 03:52 |
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| acer-box | https://twitter.com/SalvatoreVGxIV/status/1251350936364158979 | Apr 18 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SalvatoreVGxIV: @BillGates @WHO Your post is absurd! You are sadly deceived and we see right through you! You are nothing, but a wo… https://t.co/FseqYqO8tD | Apr 18 04:34 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SalvatoreVGxIV: @BillGates @WHO Your post is absurd! You are sadly deceived and we see right through you! You are nothing, but a wo… https://t.co/FseqYqO8tD | Apr 18 04:34 | |
| acer-box | Your post is absurd! You are sadly deceived and we see right through you! You are nothing, but a wolf in sheep’s clothing; an absolute disgust to all of humanity. How I EVER admired you just completely baffles me! You shall reap what you have sown. | Apr 18 04:34 |
| acer-box | Apr 18 04:34 | |
| acer-box | BTW: | Apr 18 04:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chrisreich/status/1251225728705875968 | Apr 18 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chrisreich: Thank you for your concern, but we a just fine thanks. https://t.co/TbWR5IrVFt | Apr 18 04:36 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Canada needs to heed the warning, build a wall, and make Trump pay for it. The MAGA hordes might try to leap over to safe haven. | Apr 18 04:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KerkStelli/status/1251185092405452800 | Apr 18 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KerkStelli: #mayday MAY DAY !! https://t.co/5JEYRauaAX | Apr 18 04:36 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #teenvogue #mayday #labor #classStruggle ☞ On May 1, Organizers Across the Country Will Carry Out Rent and… https://t.co/g8Ba9NJXd2 | Apr 18 04:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1251157191073005573 | Apr 18 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz @mmasnick @jitsinews @glynmoody @emilivov @brunoborges @robilad But technically speaking, wasn't as bl… https://t.co/0h7q9rSZfk | Apr 18 04:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz @mmasnick @jitsinews @glynmoody @emilivov @brunoborges @robilad But technically speaking, wasn't as bl… https://t.co/0h7q9rSZfk | Apr 18 04:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1251157191073005573 | Apr 18 04:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u90IcxdW2BZNJb5lY | Apr 18 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:49 | |
| schestowitz | "Just wait, it'll reach 4M too." | Apr 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u8yqO5J8Es3At9iRU | Apr 18 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:49 | |
| schestowitz | "people tend to name the virus from its region of origin (more people say #wuhanvirus than #chinesevirus)" | Apr 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u8dk6Nnw39BUzy8pM | Apr 18 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:49 | |
| schestowitz | "..so is Trump and other fascists" | Apr 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u8Q6AP6GeV2yxCbEu | Apr 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | "The herd needs thinning." | Apr 18 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u83ZeisK7cWT0XoBs | Apr 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | on the flip side | Apr 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | they could start making continuity | Apr 18 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:50 | |
| schestowitz | that would be much more addictive | Apr 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Good point, but at least it would be coherent | Apr 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u7uwBywRrCuOxjMYa | Apr 18 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:51 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz since the very beginning, I only believe Microsoft hates Free Software Community and that hatred never changes. | Apr 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | When people started spreading words like "Microsoft loves Free Software Community", I didn't believe that at all and I believed it was only a disguise. I know more about #Microsoft since I read #FSF's essay Software Patents: Obstacles to Software Development https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/software-patents.en.html. | Apr 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | Thanks Dr. Roy for reminding us. | Apr 18 04:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | Software Patents - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Apr 18 04:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u7sylFG6zewRISaCe | Apr 18 04:52 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz i wonder why they propose "old" software and the use of cron... systemd-timer? Systemd-rkhunter? troll" | Apr 18 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u7mC7D33pbye6qYwi | Apr 18 04:52 |
| schestowitz | " isn't there a code of conduct regarding the funding? (even if it does not eliminate lobbying policies totally)" | Apr 18 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:52 | |
| schestowitz | corporate behaviour is not regulated by CoCs AFAIK | Apr 18 04:52 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u7im8xNdsKefoRTxQ | Apr 18 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:53 | |
| schestowitz | "what happens if you sit the food in brine or bleach for 30 minutes?" | Apr 18 04:53 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u7XfsTqt9kyL8RMZc | Apr 18 04:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:53 |
| schestowitz | @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo | Apr 18 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:53 | |
| schestowitz | totally agree | Apr 18 04:53 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz | Apr 18 04:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:53 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6kxKWSzCukTpM6V6 | Apr 18 04:54 |
| schestowitz | "To be fair it could be worse, they could be dropping flyers from a #passengerAircraft." | Apr 18 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6a2IvFGTKXT87BOS | Apr 18 04:54 |
| schestowitz | "I noticed you plug #truthout quite a bit (a #CloudFlare site). I suggest prefixing every truthout URL with "https://web.archive.org/web/*/"" | Apr 18 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:54 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Wayback Machine | Apr 18 04:54 | |
| schestowitz | Would that not work only for old articles? | Apr 18 04:55 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6UZTeDoEimZ3aSrA | Apr 18 04:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:55 |
| schestowitz | "Any rich #businessman knows that he needs to fund both sides. So no matter who wins, he is well-thought of by both sides, and his #money is safe." | Apr 18 04:55 |
| schestowitz | ~ #FrancisRichardConolly in his acclaimed #documentary #JFKto911 #RichMansTrick (2014) | Apr 18 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:55 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:55 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6StEen3RyTxF99xA | Apr 18 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:55 | |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz oof 37 people dead in San Marino" | Apr 18 04:55 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6QvnQyWcK8U7mJdI | Apr 18 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:56 | |
| schestowitz | " It's worth noting that #Microsoft dropped out of #ALEC in 2015, & Gates Foundation quit feeding ALEC in 2012. "Gates Corp" is still an ALEC member, but that's nothing to do with MS or Bill Gates." | Apr 18 04:56 |
| schestowitz | Only because of public backlash | Apr 18 04:56 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6JjgT5tmWbj72xP6 | Apr 18 04:56 |
| schestowitz | "umm, that's a teenage girl participating (and winning) in a sport shooting competition. seems pretty standard for a high schooler, really." | Apr 18 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u6F8tSYEdbtUFzheS | Apr 18 04:57 |
| schestowitz | "Don't get too paranoid about stopping a disease. Nature is the greatest oppressor." | Apr 18 04:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u5tfjDL9MNAHC8Bd2 | Apr 18 04:57 |
| schestowitz | "yeah, mostly/" | Apr 18 04:57 |
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| schestowitz | my wife posts these in tuxmachines several times per day, see name | Apr 18 04:57 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u5kpYIVh31ljA9ubo | Apr 18 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz very sad. I've never understood if there are syndacates in United states and the workers are organized and cohesive." | Apr 18 04:58 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u5WOHm3cWNHIu5ErQ | Apr 18 04:58 |
| schestowitz | "terrifying, considering windows XP has not received security updates in years now" | Apr 18 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | people pointed this out at the time | Apr 18 04:58 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u5UMugdm0SdVAlekq | Apr 18 04:58 |
| schestowitz | "he original link i think was a ChromeOS one" | Apr 18 04:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u5NS7MZN542aLuk2y | Apr 18 04:59 |
| schestowitz | "hopefully #Signal does leave the US. Hopefully OWS is forced to ditch #Amazon too (shame on them for using Amazon in the first place)" | Apr 18 04:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9u4XCFRUMyN7ORKJgu | Apr 18 04:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe. It really looks like more automated work but I see more Google-positive posts rather than Microsoft-negative. | Apr 18 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Personal preferences? %) | Apr 18 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 18 04:59 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Explanation here: http://techrights.org/2019/08/20/gafam-and-gnu-linux/ | Apr 18 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | To GNU/Linux, the Operating System, GAFAM (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) is Not the Threat. Microsoft is. | Techrights | Apr 18 05:00 | |
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| schestowitz | >> lxc-attach -n mysql-shared | Apr 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > There's a syntax error in /etc/sudoers now. | Apr 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > Ouch. Sorry for the trouble. We can check tomorrow. | Apr 18 07:39 |
| schestowitz | Not your fault. I knew the dangers and did not validate. | Apr 18 07:39 |
| schestowitz | Either way, I also knew it would at worst prevent access to the DB container if it goes down again... which hopefully won't happen. The VMs are still accessible as normal. Unless.... they fall over. Which hopefully won't happen, | Apr 18 07:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17838945#d8f1da40635301384a64005056264835 | Apr 18 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ldr@pluspora.com reshared: "China's statement at the end of June 1989 said that 200 civilians and several dozen security personnel had died in #Beijing following the suppression of "counter-revolutionary riots" on 4 June 1989." Do you trust #china #covid19 numbers? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-42465516 | Apr 18 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Apr 18 08:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.co.uk | Tiananmen Square protest death toll 'was 10,000' - BBC News | Apr 18 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | ..and as Gov Cuomo has mentioned, that's not a good thing... | Apr 18 08:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17816787#78b35df063480138c583002590d8e506 | Apr 18 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: #github = death strangle by #microsoft and for Microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/04/06/check-phase/ #deleteGithub #proprietarysoftware | Apr 18 08:11 | |
| schestowitz | "curious. my post got deleted? boggles the mind why." | Apr 18 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | GitHub is Moving the Free Software Movement Into “Check” | Techrights | Apr 18 08:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17816787#4d33a470631c0138c535002590d8e506 | Apr 18 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: #github = death strangle by #microsoft and for Microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/04/06/check-phase/ #deleteGithub #proprietarysoftware | Apr 18 08:13 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:13 |
| schestowitz | search “fsociety” and “shadowbrokers” on github | Apr 18 08:13 |
| schestowitz | thank ic microsoft | Apr 18 08:13 |
| schestowitz | be thei- an hero | Apr 18 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - 2 days ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | point here being people might want to question why microsoft would purchase and run a site hosting tools to destroy itself and why global police and government forces would knowingly assist them. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | so i’ll ask you tom, what’s your point? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | roy’s are obviously misdirection. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | yours, i’m not so sure. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | as for myself, the point to a more general public is that deleting github is just denying oneself an open source code resource. if one is a programmer, one can deal their code else where in the future (though github does have great redundancy infrastructure), but to just make a flat run from and deny oneself the resource just because it’s “owned” by microsoft is kind of silly. going by that logic, one might as well not deal | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | with the majority of the internet at all because amazon and google cloud services back so much of it and internet service providers tend to be bad actor corporations. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | rather than shoot oneself in the foot by running away from perfectly fine infrastructures, perhaps the way those infrastructures are handled and managed can do for a change. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | just a thought. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 days ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | what’s your point? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Here is my take on the matter: | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/08/githug/ | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | GitHug – A Guest Article by Thomas Grzybowski | Techrights | Apr 18 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - 2 days ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | and ditching perfectly fine infrastructure without at all addressing the underlying causes of what caused the control of that infrastructure to be misallocated helps things how? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | also, by your own points, issues of censorship, blackmail, etc. still persist so long as there’s limited party actors holding things like the keys to Intel ME and AMD PSP chipsets. as noted, if the underlying causes of what caused control of infrastructure to be misallocated are not addressed, nothing really changes. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | What are you looking to address? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 days ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | addressing the underlying causes | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I really don’t know what you are getting at. It is very clearly written that the basis is the demand for profits. Microsoft sees some tremendously valuable resources just sitting out there, in the FOSS world, and by hook or by crook, they are going to get their hooks in, and then the crooks can flourish. I’ve started to think about how, precisely, that is going to come to pass, but I’m sure I have only brushed the surface. But | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I am quite certain that these profits will be based upon elements of control which will be monetized, either directly or indirectly - perhaps very indirectly. So why should we care? Well first of all, control is largely a zero sum game - as one party or parties gains control, the others lose control. In the long run there will be a net transfer of assets from the public domain to Microsoft Corporation. And That is why we must break | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | free of GitHug. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 days ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Intel ME and AMD PSP are rather different areas of concern. Not that they can be ignored, certainly not. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - 2 days ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | “I am quite certain that these profits will be based upon elements of control which will be monetized” | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | do you feel this is a different case from what drove the ME and PSP chipset issues into being? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | if so, how? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I think it different, but I’m sorry, I don’t have time to devote to that track. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | OK, I can’t help myself. ;-) | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | In a nutshell, the the ME and PSP chipset issues were implemented from the top-down and were largely secret attempts to disempower your machine. So, it is a vector-like, mechanical phenomenon. Now, Microsoft’s strategy with GitHub is based upon the “Network Effect”, where the purveyor gains control of a market or markets by creating a system where each individual participating in the transaction gains more marginal value with | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | each additional participant. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | This sounds good, until you realize that there is a tremendous (and I mean tremendous) amount of resources driving this. So then the question becomes: “why”? | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | there’s that version of tom i love hearing from for food for thought. :) | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft doesn’t exist as a “real” independent body given the “real” (monetary) economic market conditions under which MS exist. Recognition of Microsoft, dare say as a “person” such as U.S. federal law recognizes it, is part of the mass PSYCHOLOGICAL problem that underpins the misallocation of infrastructure and resources. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Given Microsoft (and other corps) recognition as people, the “real” (monetary) economic market conditions themselves show Microsoft as simply A PART of a larger unified system (aka “person”). The GAFAM (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) or FAANG (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google) may be considered “a” public head of that larger unified system (which really carries more like a hydra of heads), but the | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | point is that it is a unified global systemic body. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | One can’t speak of “monetized” or otherwise “monetary” systems while also avoiding recognition of this economic (monetary) body. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Given this unified body, Microsoft IS the Intel ME & AMD Chipset Issue. They are not separate, but one in the same as it pertains to controlling body. To similar order, GitLab IS the Microsoft GitHub issue (it is not a safety, or alternative, but one in the same). If the system has been monetized, most notably in a corp IT derived capacity, IT IS THE ISSUE. And I concur with you here, Network effects become a major problem. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | So if people #DeleteGitHub as it were while continuing to facilitate the existence of “imaginary” persons facilitated by a collective faith in monetary abstracts (managed through means including but not limited to A.I./HFT), then they’re just shuffling technocratic/cybernetic cups and avoiding the issue. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Google’s Selfish Ledger is a REAL (monetary) ECONOMIC issue that can and has thus far lead to real resource (among other) misallocation issues. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | https://youtube.com/watch?v=Of565EjiZ68 | Apr 18 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | How Google intends to CONTROL YOUR MIND. - YouTube | Apr 18 08:15 | |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | The (psychological) Elephant In The Room needs to be addressed. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Recognition of Microsoft, dare say as a “person” such as U.S. federal law recognizes it, is part of the mass PSYCHOLOGICAL problem that underpins the misallocation of infrastructure and resources. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | i highly doubt this is the only factor, but its interesting enough (and likely significant enough too) that im willing to entertain it. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Recognition of Microsoft, dare say as a “person” such as U.S. federal law recognizes it, is part of the mass PSYCHOLOGICAL problem that underpins the misallocation of infrastructure and resources. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | i highly doubt this is the only factor, but its interesting enough (and likely significant enough too) that im willing to entertain it. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | psychology is a very important part of the underpinnings of these bastardly entities. before they were recoginised as people, there was already smedley butler predicting the future (more likely, predicting his own present time) and there are several psychological problems we can link to this sort of thing-- not just the one. for example, narcissism/cults/monopolies are all related in my opinion. they play by the same rules, they do | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | the same things. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | @freemedia@framasphere.org concur, it is a factor but not the entirety. There is no intrinsic body (or otherwise personable character) that exist named Microsoft. What DOES exist is a collectively emergent psychological body of faith in agreement on an abstraction called Microsoft. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | if one wants to address the network effects of “MIcrosoft control” in any real meaningful way, it’s inherently necessary that the psychological roots be addressed as opposed to derivative abstractions. Similarly, to address monetization issues, it would seem inherent one look to consider the mass psychology effects of having a centrally controlled mass abstraction(s) applied to purposes of mass communal exchange. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | for sure, narcissism, monopolies, cults of personality (among else) carry much in relation to central control as applied to a mass for abilities in exchange both physical and intellectual. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | I think you are restating the obvious as some sort of quasi-conspiracy theory. Of course corporations are pseudopeople, both legally and psychologically, and of course they do not exist as individual entities or maybe not even as discrete agents - being more akin to machines than to “human beings”. And yes, they are all part of “the system” - the system which we are all part of. And having more extension and less agency, | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | they are more tightly “part of the system”. All that said, all that now a given - I do not understand your point. Just because Micorsoft, and other corporations are tightly bound together in this system does not mean that it is all a level field. When people start to disperse their work across the world wide web (so to speak), the kinds of things that Microsoft is doing or planning on doing start to become less and less possible | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | - or at least less and less powerful. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - a day ago | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | it simplifies what youre saying a lot (i love details and exploration, sometimes a shorthand can be useful, when practical) to just say that microsoft is a true cult that makes heavy use of cult tactics. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | its a cult to bill, a cult to money, and a cult to control… but the latter is redundant. control is what cults do, and the cult leaders are the reason why they do it. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | microsoft is basically a horrible extension of bills ego. ive actually thought about this for quite some time, but i still get the feeling youve thought about it more, and by all means, point out the way in which your model/argument either goes farther or picks up things that calling it a “cult” might miss. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | OK, I have been anthropomorphisizing Microsoft, for instance saying things like: the kinds of things that Microsoft is doing or planning on doing . But, in my case anyway, this is just shorthand - a short way of saying that there are business decisions and choices being made which affect the behaviors of others inside and outside of the corporation. That is all. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - a day ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | its a limitation of the english language that all proper nouns are extremely similar, grammatically speaking. microsoft is a proper noun, a placeholder, an identifier. if i create an identifier for value it doesnt mean im anthropomorphising it, anymore than a book becomes a person when you title it. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | ive never sided (entirely) with people who say that language dictates thinking. its like the nature vs. nurture argument. reality is a product of the two combined. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 23 hours ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | What the eco-political implications of 5 companies in the S&P 500 (top 500 stocks) accounting for over 40% of the “all time high” market gains in 2019 says and means can not be understated. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | That is not a “quasi-conspiracy theory”, it’s just math. BASIC MATH. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | no conspiracy or “quasi-conspiracy”. Conspiracy implies “hidden”… this is just a huge Elephant In The Room. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Concur with @freemedia@framasphere.org a book doesn’t become a person when you title it any more than pizza becomes a vegetable or a corporation a homosapien because federal law, endorsed by monetary economics, says so. Further, the math it self says (global) government law adheres to little more than a mass psychological faith of “In The Algos We Trust”. A bizarre cult of technocratic cybernetic “A.I.” systems. Literally. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | One should probably let the psychological implications of the market math set in long, deep, and hard; as there is NOTHING HIDDEN about it. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | note, this (monetized) economy psychological basis doesn’t make the market statements intrinsically true as much as it just says there is intrinsically truly something bizarre about what the market cult’s psychology calls natural inherent Truth. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 17 hours ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | there are a few very major points to be gleaned here (as far as i can tell) far from any conspiracy theory, which is that these very large surveillance-happy companies are reaching far into everyones lives on “behalf” of what used to be a government (relatively) free from corporatocracy (i mean there were always coal/oil and railroad barons) and even with free software, these companies still have their own shit theyre using | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | against humanity. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | i think of free software as a first step in that regard, as a foundation. the problem alien is talking about is bigger, and thus arguably “more important”, though i still think without free software, any resistance to that is relatively doomed. i dont think the github “infrastructure” is our friend or ally, its just another tool used against us. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 16 hours ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | nod tools don’t have a moral basis in and of themselves. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | However, there is the design capability of a tool to consider… | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | An atomic bomb doesn’t have much of a built in social benefit of any kind beyond mass destruction. (@Mitch Altman) | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | To similar order, I struggle to find the greater social benefit of “money”. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | “Have you ever wondered what it would be like for the flow of mass social energy exchange both physical and intellectual to be controlled and gamified by a central single point failure system? Well allow me to introduce you to money.” | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | (Free) Open sourcing is a step towards democratizing free open inspection and elective choice in use and/or modification. But it’s just a step and far from an end all be all. Free and Open Source culture itself is subject to suffering from obfuscation through density. In other words, Linux, Firefox, and Chromium may all be free and open source but they also all carry a code base so dense that the chances of anyone, most notably | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | the layman, being able to totally understand the means of how and why they work is next to none. Bit of a Abstraction Inversion problem. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Access to meaningful education, meaningful understanding of tools, the ability for meaningful communal discussion to occur, and arguably some form of basic shared communal ethics become crucial to avoiding the emergence of cults of narcissism, inherently “negative” tool developments, and obfuscation through density issues. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Perfection of any of these attributes, in as much that “perfection” presumes the achievement of some sort of “perfected” and thus “static”/dead state may not be so important in as much as allowance for continual dynamics with general shared goals of striving toward “progress”. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | I agree with virtually all of this. But none of it precludes a focus on GitHub as a nexus of that which we oppose. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | “Progress” is all anyone can ask for. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | (Free) Open sourcing is a step towards democratizing free open inspection and elective choice in use and/or modification. But it’s just a step and far from an end all be all. Free and Open Source culture itself is subject to suffering from obfuscation through density. In other words, Linux, Firefox, and Chromium may all be free and open source but they also all carry a code base so dense that the chances of anyone, most notably | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | the layman, being able to totally understand the means of how and why they work is next to none. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Very well stated. This is precisely what Figos and myself have been arguing for some time now. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | The remedy is some sort of opposite practice: simplicity as a major goal, along with transparency. The use of abstraction to hide the underlying mechanisms should be discouraged. Abstraction can be a surface, certainly, but should also be a window. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I agree with virtually all of this. But none of it precludes a focus on GitHub as a nexus of that which we oppose. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | yes. also he sounds like an anticapitalist. thats alright, ive been encouraging anticapitalists to start a small anticapitalist free software organisation for a while: http://techrights.org/2020/03/19/you-may-never-find-a-better-time-than-now-to-start-a-freedom-lab/ | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I have encouraged the formation of an organisation — or at least a broad project — which promotes Free software specifically for and by anti-capitalists. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | In other words, Linux, Firefox, and Chromium may all be free and open source but they also all carry a code base so dense that the chances of anyone, most notably the layman, being able to totally understand the means of how and why they work is next to none. Bit of a Abstraction Inversion problem. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | this is a major problem in my opinion, that i talk about far more than the fsf does. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | You May Never Find a Better Time Than Now to Start a Freedom Lab | Techrights | Apr 18 08:17 | |
| schestowitz | ive attacked this problem from several different angles, as a demonstration against it, but even if i got the methods just so, it really requires more people attacking it. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | i think coding literacy is vital. i also think coding literacy means getting back to simpler languages. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | python 2 was not the easiest language ever, but it struck a good compromise at least. i took its simplicity a bit further, trying to get “back to BASIC” a little. but python 3 is an “enterprise” language, designed a little more for corporate code monkeys who are too busy working to care if their language is less friendly. theyve already learned to code for a living, so they dont are if it raises the learning curve a bit-- | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | theyre already over it. im not a fan. and the attitude that we all have to convert is bullshit, as lamented in this wonderful post from lxo: https://www.fsfla.org/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | but what about the complexity(bloat) issue? | Apr 18 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom | Apr 18 08:17 | |
| schestowitz | yes, thats also very important, and i havent left it unaddressed (in this post it remains unaddressed, except for mentioning it.) | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | A bit of a tangent - I would love to see a more function-oriented variant of python, more lisp-like, but retaining the Python syntax (which people seem to grok). Python2 is (was) more this way - but it certainly could be pushed much further. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Is it just me, or are Python namespaces confusing? | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 15 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | some of its confusing, but python was the first language where the basics of that really made sense to me. before python, i really did everything in a global namespace. hard to imagine. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | bash scripting is also global (including function calls) unless you separate functions into other scripts. each script has its own namespace, but functions within a script do not. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | the biggest problem with a functional python is that python sucks at functional programming compared to other languages. there are goals of fp that i clearly dont understand, as i can simulate a loop with a recursive function, but i dont know how to do that without abusing the stack: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15269193/stack-overflow-from-recursive-function-call-in-lisp | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | i dont know how lisp deals with such limits, so i couldnt tell you how to fix python with them. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | a python-like syntax for lisp would not be too difficult. the other problem is that most libraries (python, lisp, javascript) are on github. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stackoverflow.com | Stack overflow from recursive function call in Lisp - Stack Overflow | Apr 18 08:17 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | There have been a few python-syntax instances of lisp put out there, implemented via macro comprehension I presume. I haven’t tried them, because I actually prefer the lisp syntax! | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | As for the stack mechanisms in lisp recursion - that was a problem, but I believe it was solved quite some time ago with clean tail calls. I don’t know the low-level details though. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | i fell in love with python syntax, but when i created my own way of creating it automatically (with if/fi, for/next like keywords) i found i still prefer the keywords. | Apr 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz | i like javascripts use of braces far less. javascript compound statements begin with a keyword, but then require two braces after that. i still prefer python syntax to this. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | but what i was getting at is that if lisp had python-like syntax, or i used one of the projects that allows that, i still wouldnt know how to code in lisp. im not familiar with the libraries, most of which are on github-- same as python, and i wouldnt know where to start. the github issue is a real turnoff-- this isnt specific to lisp. theres lots of software i turn my nose up at, just because i dont want to make the github | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | situation worse. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | There was a mass migration of many already firmly established lisp libraries onto GitHub. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Makes you wonder… | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | it certainly does. you know more about that world than i do, i would encourage you to find some more information/details if possible. at least email it to roy or me, you dont need to write an article about it (welcome as one would be.) | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | that could be extremely valuable information. if anybody is writing more about this matter than you, roy or i, id like to meet them. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I can review some of the lisp mail lists. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 14 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | that would be fantastic, thank you. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 13 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | “none of it precludes a focus on GitHub as a nexus of that which we oppose.” | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | What is GitHub outside of name? | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Simply speaking, a collection of servers hosting open source code. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | So what is being ran from or “deleted” when one runs from GitHub? | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | If it’s Microsoft, than such seems tantamount to running away from a psychological boogieman. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | The code is then moved where? To a collection of lesser known locations, many of which are not nearly as resilient to failure? If such is the case, this is efficient how and benefits whom and/or what? | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | As ultimately shown and explained by the (monetary) market math upon which the constructs of Microsoft, Google, and honestly just about anything and anyone that looks at those market numbers and says “THOSE MARKET VALUES ARE REAL” is founded, to resolve the Microsoft control problem is to resolve the Google control problem, is to resolve the Nation State political problem, is to resolve the banking and “A.I.” monetary market | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | rule problem, and so on and so forth. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Rather than beat around the bush, just address the issue at it’s root. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 13 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | apologies on last comment | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | I wasn’t yet updated on where conversation had flowed before posting it. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | But yes simplicity simplicity simplicity. | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | I also question the frequent engineer and enterprise social question of “but does it scale?”, notably as it regards scaling “massively” to infinitely. If something works well between 2 individuals and it’s meant to work well between 2 individuals, there shouldn’t be much of a need to question or much more answer “can it work for 40 individuals?” | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 12 hours ago | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | As ultimately shown and explained by the (monetary) market math upon which the constructs of Microsoft, Google, and honestly just about anything and anyone that looks at those market numbers and says “THOSE MARKET VALUES ARE REAL” is founded, to resolve the Microsoft control problem is to resolve the Google control problem, is to resolve the Nation State political problem, is to resolve the banking and “A.I.” monetary market | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | rule problem | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, the neoliberal market machine is killing us. But -this is the important question: | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | “what to do?” | Apr 18 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Before I bring my pitchfork to Washington, I want to point out that this all-encompassing market machine is not a featureless black hole. In it’s manifold aspects there are areas of conjunction and sensitivity. We need to find those, and punch there. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 10 hours ago | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Once “A.I.” was brought into the game, it was like opening Pandora’s Box. Less “money” function on a very aware and agreed on limited scale THAT IS ALSO a closed network system, any time “money” is brought into play it’s just a matter of when someone/thing injects bot(s) into the system to game it. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | So, “Money, thanks for playing, GAME OVER.” | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | To the best of my knowledge: | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | People rarely acknowledge the technological (“A.I.”) elephant in the (monetary market) room no matter how blatant it is. (major cognitive dissonance issue) | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | No one knows a way to close the Pandora’s box. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | As it pertains to “monetary” markets, in a very real sense, “A.I.” might as well mean: | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien Invasion/Invader | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | The Invader may not be completely malevolent, as we are still here, but it certainly isn’t benevolent either. I.T. literally Doesn’t Care. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Running around in circles playing games of lets just pretend it’s not happening is beyond stupid and negligent IMO. When one is in a house on fire, one doesn’t sit in the house debating what’s the best way to get out the house, they acknowledge the house is on fire and just get out the house (while salvaging what infrastructure they can from inside). | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | The (psychological) House that is Money is on Fire. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | I’m not suggesting “panic” mind you, as much as I’m saying acknowledge the issue full on (which means publicly and openly forthright) and progress. Playing games of dance around the (name) Microsoft is just that… it’s just playing games. Dancing around the (monetary market) politician (or pitchforks to Washington) would be just as practical at best and potentially more senselessly violent at worst. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 9 hours ago | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure about AI being a “game changeer”. Corporations have always been alien creatures - mere machines. Now there is another dimension - and paired with ubiquitous information gathering, yes, this is time to yell “Fire”! | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 9 hours ago | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | The code is then moved where? To a collection of lesser known locations, many of which are not nearly as resilient to failure? | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | wait, youre implying a single point of failure is better. you may not have intended to do so, but you did so. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 8 hours ago | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | @freemedia@framasphere.org no, not implying single point failure is good. As a single network, yes, GitHub suffers from this issue. As a collection of infrastructure items that can be parsed differently than they currently are, there is no sufferance from this issue. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | The GitHub infrastructure as it currently stands, RAID, Tape Backups, and all, could be a good initial starting place for evolving toward something like a TAHOE-Lafs structure, IPFS, or what have you (many options are possible). The grouping of all those items as needing to belong to a single point failure network due to adherence to dogmatic psychological constructs can probably go. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | My greater point was simply not to take perfectly good infrastructure and junk it just because it’s currently tied to a psychological construct that need not be attached to it. The comment was not intended toward any sort of promotion of everyone should focus use on GitHub or that using things other than GitHub should be completely abandoned. More just a thought toward “don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater” | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 7 hours ago | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | dont worry about microsoft, as they dont really exist? | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 6 hours ago | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | More worried about the mass psychology/faith in the baalshite market that enables Microsoft to exist (for many)… | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | but yes, to the dog, the cat, monkeys, guerillas, and just about every other sentient carbon based being on the planet (including many tribes, villages, and otherwise people), no, Microsoft does not exist as they simply don’t put faith in it. Take away the faith, and the control goes away with it (but the infrastructure is still left to be used) | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | such said, on a somewhat humorous note, the Nation of Mexico is “officially” baalshite, literally: | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/mexico-downgraded-baa1-moodys-negative-outlook-means-junking-imminent | Apr 18 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.zerohedge.com | Moody's Downgrades Mexico To Baa1, Pemex To Junk | Zero Hedge | Apr 18 08:19 | |
| schestowitz | The house is on fire | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17838945#a4e32ec0633201384a64005056264835 | Apr 18 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ldr@pluspora.com reshared: "China's statement at the end of June 1989 said that 200 civilians and several dozen security personnel had died in #Beijing following the suppression of "counter-revolutionary riots" on 4 June 1989." Do you trust #china #covid19 numbers? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-42465516 | Apr 18 08:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Now you know why they are freaking out in Hong Kong. They know the brutality that awaits them. | Apr 18 08:19 |
| schestowitz | meg_mac@pluspora.com | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | meg_mac@pluspora.com - about 8 hours ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | The Chinese are not good players on the world scene. They have a market on all the things needed for developing tests. In fact I would hazard a guess that they dominate 70-80 percent of world wide goods. | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.co.uk | Tiananmen Square protest death toll 'was 10,000' - BBC News | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17643795#003edc70578a01384e327a163ef10931 | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The @linuxfoundation was not inherently corrupt It was corrupted The people who entered it corrupted it Over time it became profoundly corrupt Now it works against its own goals http://techrights.org/2020/03/05/lf-leadership/ | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | some time after this press release (which we took note of at the time, arguing that OpenJS Foundation was controlled by Microsoft) that same person entered the very management team of the Foundation. We don’t know what month exactly this happened (there’s no real transparency about such moves and clearly no announcement). Quietly added some time in recent weeks or months… | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 15 days ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Now why would there be a lack of transparency in a non-profit devoted to Software Freedom? Seems, uh, counter-intuitive… | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Linux Foundation Adds Another Microsoft Executive to Its Leadership (Fourth by Count) | Techrights | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 15 days ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Linus - man-up! | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Will Hill | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Will Hill - 15 days ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Guix is moving to the Hurd. https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/deprecating-support-for-the-linux-kernel/ | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-guix.gnu.org | Deprecating support for the Linux kernel — 2020 — Blog — GNU Guix | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 15 days ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Yes! They were made for one another! | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | (but what about device drivers?) | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 15 days ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Future versions of Guix System will run exclusively on the Hurd, and we expect to remove Linux-Libre entirely by Guix 2.0. | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | This is simply amazing! | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17528962#15c8b1b04fc5013863052a0000053625 | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Paint a Dove for #DocumentFreedomDay https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/03/24/paint-a-dove-for-dfd/ #odf #tdf #opendocument #freesw | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | cant, all my paint programs are 64-bit only. | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | oh wait, no they arent. just libreoffice. | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17461416#79b09a804a280138d41e08002785b8a8 | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blog.documentfoundation.org | Paint a Dove for Document Freedom Day - The Document Foundation Blog | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Linux Foundation prepares for disaster" = Jim Zemlin does ads for #ibm https://opensource.com/article/20/3/news-march-14 see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135048 | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | The Linux Foundation, the nonprofit organization enabling mass innovation through open source, today announced Project OWL’s IoT device firmware effort - which is NOT open source! | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz@diasporapod.no | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz@diasporapod.no - about a month ago | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | Linux Foundation prepares for disaster, new anti-tracking data set, Mozilla goes back to mobile OSes, and more open source news | Opensource.com | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation: TARS Foundation and Project OWL | Tux Machines | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/Project-Owl | Apr 18 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | Project Owl · GitHub | Apr 18 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | This organization has no public repositories. | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | This month they announced support for two NON-Linux OSes | Apr 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz | But they have crumbs stuck between the keys. ;-) | Apr 18 08:21 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:21 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 3 months ago | Apr 18 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Apart from that, laptops are just about the most un-free hardware there is. | Apr 18 08:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16045697#8b1b1470216501386b8b7a163ef10931 | Apr 18 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The BeagleBoard.org Foundation introduced #BeagleBone -AI SBC at Embedded World 2019 last February." https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/09/20/buy-beaglebone-ai-sbc-ai-edge-applications/ | Apr 18 08:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cnx-software.com | $118 BeagleBone-AI SBC is Made for AI Edge Applications | Apr 18 08:21 | |
| schestowitz | I am aware, which is why I avoided them for over a decade | Apr 18 08:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17688617#05e77f105a7501388066047d7b62795e | Apr 18 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Disturbing to see #Python Software Foundation #PSF describing people who write code based on their #microsoft accounts e.g. #shithub and #LeakedOn http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PythonSoftwareFoundationNews/~3/jik63d3gqes/python-software-foundation-fellow.html | Apr 18 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | "There’s something wrong with the link you shared." | Apr 18 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> pyfound.blogspot.com | Python Software Foundation News: Python Software Foundation Fellow Members for Q1 2020 | Apr 18 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | It is a longstanding bug in diaspora | Apr 18 08:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16591532#c512a3e0f1ac0137cbbd047d7b62795e | Apr 18 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Devices: #RaspberryPi Stuff and #OpenHW Group/ #RISCV Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130876 | Apr 18 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Raspberry Pi Stuff and OpenHW Group/RISC-V Foundation | Tux Machines | Apr 18 08:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | As of now, the unofficial Chromium OS build for the Pi is in “test” mode, and it only supports Pi 3/Pi 3B+, and Pi 4. Since it is in “test” mode, some features of the OS are yet to be implemented, bugs are present, and things can crash at random times. Still, if you have a spare Raspberry Pi 3/3B+ or Pi 4 and need a full-featured operating system, Chromium OS is one of the best. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/run-chromium-os-on-a-raspberry-pi/ | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | What complete and utter bullshit. Chromium would be one of the worst choices: extremely limited in functionality, aimed primarily to tie you into Google, and offering no advantages. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | balduin@diasp.org | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | balduin@diasp.org - 5 months ago | Apr 18 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.addictivetips.com | How to run Chromium OS on a Raspberry Pi | Apr 18 08:24 | |
| schestowitz | @tomgrz +1 | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | Indeed there are many operating systems which are much better than Chromium OS. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 months ago | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | This addictivetips magazine deserves to go in the dumpster. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | balduin@diasp.org | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | balduin@diasp.org - 5 months ago | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | I did a quick search about the author of the article Derrik Diener: https://www.addictivetips.com/author/dderrik/ | Apr 18 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.addictivetips.com | Derrik Diener - AddictiveTips | Apr 18 08:24 | |
| schestowitz | He describes himself as a “Linux” blogger, but I could not find information on how he earns his money. The YouTube channel and few blogs he wrote can not make enough money to survive, at least for my understanding. My question is, does he get sponsored by somebody for writing other than the Addictivetips? Maybe, Google? | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 months ago | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | Derrik Diener may be a nom de plume. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | balduin@diasp.org | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | balduin@diasp.org - 5 months ago | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | @tomgrz could be. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | This site still has many decent howtos, which is why I follow it. Many sites died in recent years. | Apr 18 08:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17350438#d4a1af303f5f0138bf97047d7b62795e | Apr 18 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A year ago I still believed #linuxfoundation could be salvaged. I no longer think so. It's too late. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Apr 18 08:29 | |
| schestowitz | ' | Apr 18 08:29 |
| schestowitz | satan is everywhere, roy | Apr 18 08:29 |
| schestowitz | stay safe, bro | Apr 18 08:29 |
| schestowitz | trust nothing but post more on minds n diaspora \m/ | Apr 18 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Apr 18 08:30 | |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Apr 18 08:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:30 |
| schestowitz | By default I distrust | Apr 18 08:30 |
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| schestowitz | x https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/21224728/bill-gates-coronavirus-lies-5g-covid-19 | Apr 18 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Bill Gates is now the leading target for coronavirus falsehoods, says report - The Verge | Apr 18 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | = | Apr 18 10:26 |
| schestowitz | re billg, if I put something in IRC and it's not in social control media, then it's unattributed and seemingly out of context | Apr 18 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for keeping abreast of these attempts to associate billg critics with nutcases; I see some of these in Twitter, but I don't follow "the media" | Apr 18 10:34 |
| schestowitz | TheVerge was edited by Gates and it covers his behind | Apr 18 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/panchopigna/status/1251467957777072128 | Apr 18 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@panchopigna: @schestowitz it's time to subvert these rules https://t.co/4D2rkomj9E | Apr 18 12:24 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@panchopigna: @schestowitz it's time to subvert these rules https://t.co/4D2rkomj9E | Apr 18 12:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/1251466473270280194 | Apr 18 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dawnbazely: @schestowitz I hope you and your family are doing ok. Keep those tweets coming! | Apr 18 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LifeLiberty3/status/1251429446294306816 | Apr 18 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LifeLiberty3: @schestowitz Please don't make it sound like you r cheering this. | Apr 18 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | I do not. I say the same for a lot of countries and note decreases too. | Apr 18 12:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1251401625735856129 | Apr 18 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz ditto | Apr 18 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnSmi42110930/status/1251388371768836096 | Apr 18 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JohnSmi42110930: @schestowitz This guy is doing it in Minnesota https://t.co/XO9wo7xsF4 | Apr 18 12:28 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@studoeslinux: Aspen Academy Penguin Corps has given away 48 computers 2 help students with #distancelearning. We need more. Pleas… https://t.co/nGDiYtQ9Ph | Apr 18 12:28 | |
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| schestowitz | [09:20] <Anon> you are familiar with FireEye Network Security? | Apr 18 13:29 |
| schestowitz | [09:20] <Anon> well, they reached out to a security contact at the university of [xxxxxx] who run an internal mirror of [distro] and other distros for their students' use | Apr 18 13:29 |
| schestowitz | [09:20] <Anon> claiming that [distro]'s tor packages are compromised by an advanced persistent threat | Apr 18 13:29 |
| schestowitz | [09:21] <Anon> based on my understanding of how [distro]'s supply chain works, i am 100% certain this is FUD | Apr 18 13:29 |
| schestowitz | [09:22] <schestowitz> I wrote about FireEye before | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:22] <schestowitz> They're not the worst | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:22] <schestowitz> but they are very politically connected for sure | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:22] <Anon> yes, something seems wrong here | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:22] <schestowitz> If you search techrights on them, you will find some refs to that effect | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <Anon> what if the actual goal is to assist in *getting* the tor packages compromised | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <schestowitz> I cannot remember all the pertinent details offhand at the moment | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <Anon> because they suggested we *rebuild* them | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <schestowitz> FireEye is very close to the USG AFAIK | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <schestowitz> So they would not care much for Tor or privacy | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:24] <schestowitz> FireEye may be to USG what Kaspersky is to Kremlin | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> https://www.google.com/search?q=fireeye&sa=Google+%E2%80%BA&sitesearch=techrights.org&client=pub-2479740519054892&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23999999%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A999999%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A999999%3BALC%3A666666%3BLC%3A666666%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A333333%3BGIMP%3A333333%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A50%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2Ftechrights-search.png%3BS% | Apr 18 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.google.com | fireeye site:techrights.org - Google Search | Apr 18 13:30 | |
| schestowitz | 3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fschestowitz. | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> com%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:26] <schestowitz> sorry for the cruft from Google (trail of spying to source), can be abbreviated, I know.. | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:26] <schestowitz> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/022814-china-cyberespionage-279309.html | Apr 18 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/022814-china-cyberespionage-279309.html ) | Apr 18 13:30 | |
| schestowitz | [09:43] <Anon> well, i have pulled community/tor from [distro] for now | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:43] <Anon> but the suggestion that we rebuild them seems... odd | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:43] <Anon> to me that seems like we replace a non-compromised version with a compromised one | Apr 18 13:30 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <schestowitz> depends where the source comes from, I suppose | Apr 18 13:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/04/guest-post-covid-19-treatments-issue-of.html?showComment=1586532634950#c2296642316977587477 | Apr 18 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Covid-19 Treatments: The Issue of Orphan Drug Status and Patents - The IPKat | Apr 18 15:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | The debate in this blog post and comments section cannot be resolved because their is no appropriate framework. I notice that the author of the post has put forward a solution here: | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stockholmiplawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Online_IP_nr-1_2019_A4_Safeguarding-public-health.pdf | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | This advocates a new right of: “the right of everyone | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | physical and mental health” | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | That seems to be the best way to proceed, as we can then decide how best to balance everyone's rights. I not that such a balancing of rights has previously been discussed on the IPKat blog at: | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2013/10/balancing-ip-and-human-rights-case-of.html | Apr 18 15:29 |
| schestowitz | The comments section of that post gives insights into the different perspectives on issues. | Apr 18 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Balancing IP and human rights: the case of medicines - The IPKat | Apr 18 15:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | > http://blog.unicode.org/2018/07/icu-moves-to-github-and-jira.html | Apr 18 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.unicode.org | The Unicode Blog: ICU moves to GitHub and Jira | Apr 18 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > the month after microsoft announced purchase. | Apr 18 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > also check out what gdmap can do: | Apr 18 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Can that image be integrated in some context into an article that explains what it shows? | Apr 18 18:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1251552729048190984 | Apr 18 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz prior art is useless. | Apr 18 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1251538574970937345 | Apr 18 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: #DeleteGithub https://t.co/3ILNMotkjl | Apr 18 18:29 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: BTW, projects that are #github critics are being bribed by #microsoft for their silence Typical Miceosoft | Apr 18 18:29 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/studoeslinux/status/1251498292330074112 | Apr 18 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@studoeslinux: @JohnSmi42110930 @schestowitz Why, yes. Yes, I am. | Apr 18 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonnyj13/status/1251488991213387776 | Apr 18 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jonnyj13: @schestowitz Does this mean I have a death sentence because I am living in an apartment block with 300 other people… https://t.co/l8HMky3T1B | Apr 18 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jonnyj13: @schestowitz Does this mean I have a death sentence because I am living in an apartment block with 300 other people… https://t.co/l8HMky3T1B | Apr 18 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Does this mean I have a death sentence because I am living in an apartment block with 300 other people in close proximity? Prisoners should remain in prison, they're there for a reason | Apr 18 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Face with tears of joy | Apr 18 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wayfaringhacker/status/1251484371787354113 | Apr 18 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wayfaringhacker: @schestowitz @mayur_shingote When Microsoft bought Github, It was amusing to watch all of the “evangelists” start b… https://t.co/xOEBMfctq2 | Apr 18 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wayfaringhacker: @schestowitz @mayur_shingote When Microsoft bought Github, It was amusing to watch all of the “evangelists” start b… https://t.co/xOEBMfctq2 | Apr 18 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | "When Microsoft bought Github, It was amusing to watch all of the “evangelists” start brown nosing for Microsoft en masse. “M$ is an open source company, and always was! Microsoft is a hero to our community”... I assumed those “evangelists” were either bribed or angling for a job." | Apr 18 18:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/1251481641962348544 | Apr 18 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@laurelrusswurm: No part of this rich planet should be part of a "Disposable World." Thinking globally must include all. https://t.co/BPoq85Jhp3 | Apr 18 18:34 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #counterpunch #covid19 #trumpland ☞ The Self-Centered Rich Country Response to #Pandemics and Crises is Wr… https://t.co/9rMXtX9Z9s | Apr 18 18:34 | |
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| schestowitz | No part of this rich planet should be part of a "Disposable World." | Apr 18 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Thinking globally must include all. | Apr 18 18:34 |
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