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| schestowitz-TR | The reason the ytalk connection was dropped, my machine was rebooted | Apr 19 06:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I studied the logs, after I had taken the opportunity to do a full system update | Apr 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and could not see anything connection the ongoing drive warnings | Apr 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the incident | Apr 19 06:07 |
| Techrights-sec | no worries, it should have reconnected automatically form my | Apr 19 06:07 |
| Techrights-sec | end though | Apr 19 06:07 |
| Techrights-sec | from my end though | Apr 19 06:07 |
| Techrights-sec | I have a loop going here. | Apr 19 06:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it turns out alex jones, like andrew lee, is also living the us lifestyle | Apr 19 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | 50k in assets, then just borrow... 1 million to 10 million | Apr 19 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they say this is the world's most potent economt | Apr 19 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | (never mind motivation o bury the debt in ch11) | Apr 19 06:10 |
| Techrights-sec | yep goog riddance to him though I suppose his backers won;t let his be the end of him and his bullshit | Apr 19 06:10 |
| Techrights-sec | yep another "successful bankruptcy" to show at business schools as a model | Apr 19 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | theory: the national deficit, granting about 20 trillion in public debt is about a decade or a little more | Apr 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | covers up for the fakeness of the private sector | Apr 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is in the red | Apr 19 06:12 |
| Techrights-sec | it's hard to explain but the money is not the global currency but the debt | Apr 19 06:16 |
| Techrights-sec | itself, that also gives more leverage over the borrower | Apr 19 06:16 |
| Techrights-sec | yes and it does help hide the fakeness of the private sector | Apr 19 06:16 |
| Techrights-sec | an additional problem is that Enron-style accounting is now allowed and | Apr 19 06:16 |
| Techrights-sec | encouraged so it is almost impossible to find out what the bottome line is. | Apr 19 06:16 |
| Techrights-sec | Generally that takes an audit and business schools have prepared scammers | Apr 19 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | for that by teaching everyone how to keep two separate sets of books, only | Apr 19 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | one of which is for the government. The big Enterprise Resource Planning | Apr 19 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | packages don't let people keep track of that for their business anyway. | Apr 19 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | It has become a shell game. | Apr 19 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, in otherwords they are intentionally obfuscating their dire situation | Apr 19 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | See, I am not so stupid but I could never make sense of the financial statement of a 10-person (little more) company | Apr 19 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | where I have been for over 10 years | Apr 19 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | my BS meter off the chart, I still needed help from better sniffers | Apr 19 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't mean to sound cocky, but it seems a good majority of companies are like that | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | some are more upfront about it | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | apparently rianne and I, as we do have actual savings and no debt/liabilities, are | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot better off than a god majority of households | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | two days ago I saved about 30 pounds on food and did exercise at the same time (went to 7 shops+1 at | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the end, a second visit) | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many people in those | Apr 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | high inflation rates penalise not only savers, they hurt everybody | Apr 19 06:22 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps, but as mentioned it is now established practice to cook the books | Apr 19 06:23 |
| Techrights-sec | and to use accoubnting methods which facillitate that | Apr 19 06:23 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that is a goal ,but the low interest rates also discourage savings, | Apr 19 06:23 |
| Techrights-sec | they try to push everyone to put their money into speculation instead. | Apr 19 06:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Basically they wish people to gamble what little they might have put away | Apr 19 06:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, in IRC I've said this repeatedly over the past year | Apr 19 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | Wall Street now eats the middle class (what's left of it) | Apr 19 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | by putting more pressure on remaining savers to "feed the machine" | Apr 19 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | this will end like in 2007-8 | Apr 19 06:25 |
| Techrights-sec | ... what's left of the middle class is rapidly vanishing, pushed down | Apr 19 06:25 |
| Techrights-sec | into poverty | Apr 19 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) the standards of "poverty" are adjusted | Apr 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) "full employment" redefined | Apr 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) more hours, more working people per household | Apr 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) reducation in compensation, pension age etc. | Apr 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "if you can't make it good, make it look like you need Epstein for "rich people"..." | Apr 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Because that's all he is renowned for, nothing else.... | Apr 19 06:28 |
| Techrights-sec | the definition of poverty is bent also to exclude more impoverished people | Apr 19 06:29 |
| Techrights-sec | from the category, so effectively much of the lower end of what had been | Apr 19 06:29 |
| Techrights-sec | middle class is in practice poor and feeling it | Apr 19 06:29 |
| Techrights-sec | basically | Apr 19 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is even worse when you factor in much of the "lifestyle" being fed by loans | Apr 19 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | our old filmmaking friend contemplated suicide over it 15 years ago | Apr 19 06:30 |
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| Techrights-sec | that's too bad; | Apr 19 06:32 |
| Techrights-sec | I think he's doing much better now, bites from pinnepeds aside | Apr 19 06:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ^pinniped | Apr 19 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the financial equiv of anabolic steroids | Apr 19 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | make me look big now | Apr 19 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll worry about all "that bad stuff" later on | Apr 19 06:32 |
| Techrights-sec | yep, to a certain extent | Apr 19 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | with soma and all that, they make yet more "susccess stories" | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | more billionaires like sackler family with purdue | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there's something to celebrate after all! | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 'ol england' they had pubs and booze to compel the hard-working class to keep | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | working harder | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the drugs are no longer limited to liquid form | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the last effect is also longer | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the drinking shortens the life, no pension, work till death | Apr 19 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | a sort of lifespan or longevity 'eugenics' | Apr 19 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec | another thing the us does is the culture, especialy through business, puts | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | nearly everybody in a dire situation where the normal reaction is stress | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | if not downright depression then instead of fixing the problem or moving the | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | people to better jobs (on the false assumption that any exist) they sell | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | expensive mindaltering medication to force a happy or at least less depressed | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | feeling into their heads -- for an additional fee | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db377.htm | Apr 19 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cdc.gov | Products - Data Briefs - Number 377 - September 2020 | Apr 19 06:42 | |
| Techrights-sec | and that's the /old/ data, not including recent years | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/antidepressant-prescribing-up-6-since-2019 | Apr 19 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pharmaceutical-journal.com | Antidepressant prescribing up 6% in last three months of 2020 - The Pharmaceutical Journal | Apr 19 06:42 | |
| Techrights-sec | (UK( | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/04/Antidepressant-use-rising-in-US-mostly-in-women-CDC-says/7341599224503/ | Apr 19 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Antidepressant use rising in U.S., mostly in women, CDC says - UPI.com | Apr 19 06:42 | |
| Techrights-sec | on average women are more in tune with surroundings and environment | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | pint-a-day | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | more importantly larger business can charge more for them and they | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | are able to exclude smaller businesses from participation | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | old: | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624 | Apr 19 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.harvard.edu | Astounding increase in antidepressant use by Americans - Harvard Health | Apr 19 06:42 | |
| Techrights-sec | chinese fentanyl or taliban heroin shortens it more and faster | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | it also removes people from politics, like Pince or Tom Petty, more conveniently than what had to be done with John Lennon | Apr 19 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | yes in pratcie there is a eugneics programme against those that are honest | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | hard working , smart, or a combination there of. | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | Look for example at the characteristics selected for in the US military and | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | then the long term darwinian fitness effect their time in the service has | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | it's even bad for the officers, not just the enlisted | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | patriotism overlaps with a kind of altruism, so that too is being bred out | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | china is also doing a heavy eugenics programme against its citizens with | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | the social credit score; they look to be trying to breed obedience and | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | unquestioningness into the population or at least remove independence and | Apr 19 06:55 |
| Techrights-sec | questioning from the gene pool | Apr 19 06:56 |
| Techrights-sec | Europe is doing quite badly too. | Apr 19 06:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have checked the film archive of our friend | Apr 19 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still there fully intact (on the surface of it) | Apr 19 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the Internet Archive | Apr 19 06:57 |
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| schestowitz-TR | "At the Chevrolet dealer to get the Buick fixed, I noticed that nobody was in there to buy a car." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022 | Apr 19 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | 2022 – BaronHK's Rants | Apr 19 07:16 | |
| schestowitz-TR | /04/19/at-the-chevrolet-dealer-to-get-the-buick-fixed-i-noticed-that-nobody-was-in-there-to-buy-a-car/\ | Apr 19 07:17 |
| Techrights-sec | yep the "luxury" cars are real lemons since all repairs *must* take place | Apr 19 07:17 |
| Techrights-sec | at the dealer so that too becomes a revenue stream | Apr 19 07:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/ | Apr 19 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/ ) | Apr 19 07:18 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | and the other vaccine lines seem to have been starved of funding even | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | though they looked very promising | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | on another topic, /tmp/techrights-monitor-tr.py has the updated monitoring | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | script here; it's not set up for more than one site at a time but has a lot | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | of bells and whistles which I find useful | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | at around 03:40 UTC each day there is a bit of a slowdown but not long enough | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | to trigger a full alarm | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yes I remember, it's just that even with ionice and nice in use the site | Apr 19 07:21 |
| Techrights-sec | slows down enough to notice | Apr 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the backup time, with wordpress being the biggest toll | Apr 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | that used to result in much longer period of unavailability | Apr 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | when that machine was about 8 cores | Apr 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the db locks up until the dump is complete and httpd keeps connections to it on hold | Apr 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | i forgot how that works, we've not had to worry much since the server move | Apr 19 07:22 |
| Techrights-sec | that could be it though I don't know enough about the db to say either way | Apr 19 07:23 |
| Techrights-sec | it has to lock the tables in some way for a period of time in order to | Apr 19 07:23 |
| Techrights-sec | have a coherent dump | Apr 19 07:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | this technical approach may sound obscene until you realise the size of the DB when not compressed | Apr 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | for tuxmachines the 170k nodes being dump also leads to a sort of 'hang', but it lasts under a minute | Apr 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | to tuxmachines visitors it's like "the site is a bit slow" and then it comes back OK with a page | Apr 19 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec | yes it is huge | Apr 19 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec | TR is as far as I know an unusually large wordpress instance | Apr 19 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec | yes the slowdown is short nowadays, that is quite good | Apr 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't have to speculate how much hosting on such hardware costs "in the market", per anum | Apr 19 07:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *annum | Apr 19 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | It is quite a generous contribution | Apr 19 07:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/ | Apr 19 07:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/ ) | Apr 19 07:50 | |
| Techrights-sec | the dedicated work ethic is being bred out | Apr 19 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec | as people starve to death while doing important/essential jobs | Apr 19 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec | That study was from 2019, the situatioon is most likely far worse from | Apr 19 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec | 2020 and 2021 | Apr 19 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | i could sound like an old cliche, but... | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | automation was supposed to help people work less | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | let the invention take care of much of the rest | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | sweden did, at one point, experiement with workhours reduction | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe that was there to stay | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | switzerland (rich) dabbled in ubi | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | for some corporate/ruling class these programmes are undesirable | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | in weaker democracies these can never materialise | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | let alone get tested | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | one alternative does exist | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | reject the system | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | work at the margins of it | Apr 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and do not obey | Apr 19 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec | kind of, but the societal pressure to work oneself deep into debt is | Apr 19 07:58 |
| Techrights-sec | tremendous and a matter of knowledge, given that the educational system | Apr 19 07:58 |
| Techrights-sec | was neutralied in the US during the Reagan administration the knoweldge | Apr 19 07:58 |
| Techrights-sec | has been gone for a while | Apr 19 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am miffed only by the term "work deep into debt" | Apr 19 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it is the consumption (of kids) that cause the debt | Apr 19 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the work, unless it's something like gambling, it not likely to cause | Apr 19 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the debt | Apr 19 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but creating a business that operates at a loss might | Apr 19 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you work and lose at the same time | Apr 19 07:59 |
| Techrights-sec | partially, cars, wasteful travel and kids | Apr 19 07:59 |
| Techrights-sec | kids are reckeoned to cost 250 k EUR to raise to 18, and the costs | Apr 19 07:59 |
| Techrights-sec | extend for quite a few years after 18 these days | Apr 19 07:59 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51233/51233-h/51233-h.htm | Apr 19 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gutenberg.org | The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Marching Morons, by C. M. Kornbluth. | Apr 19 07:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR | kids and cars are connected | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | because cars are expected when you have kids | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | people ask funny questions when you walk the kids 45-minute walks | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get places | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. in certain weather | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it is another "hidden" cost | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | which few ould factor in | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | *would | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol, "the marching morons" | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I like the title | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | incidentally, upstairs 20 mins ago rianne and I joked about our colleagues | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | who actually invested their personal money in the company | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | to them, well... they work hard like mules | Apr 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | to us, no... we do the bare minumium and don't care | Apr 19 08:03 |
| Techrights-sec | yes if you have kids the logistics of raising them *requires* that a car | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | is used even in most of Europe | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | that adds to the debt, and now even in Europe there is a growing trend | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | for societies to cultivate "student debt" as if that were a normal thing | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | wtf? That's foolish | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | especially given the pull towards clown and M$ | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | if the company were heading in a viable direction that woud be a different | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | matter, but clown and m$ are a dead end | Apr 19 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | tyhen again mules are not smart nor known for being smart | Apr 19 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) it's not clown and MS, but clown and some occasional nonfree | Apr 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is still now goog | Apr 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | *good | Apr 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) in the UK we had the show (predates my adult life) Only Fools and Horses | Apr 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you know what comes after that | Apr 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne anmd I already joke that if one day the company goes under we'll be like "LOL! real sorry!" | Apr 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | This sort of mindset is quite healthy, I think | Apr 19 08:08 |
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| Techrights-sec | yes, the numbers show that it is a bad investment, one should never invest | Apr 19 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | for other than solid numbers not wishful thinking or other emotional factors | Apr 19 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | At least a certain level of detachment is healthy | Apr 19 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | However, apropos cores mentioned earlier, Kaniini mentioned "soon", is there | Apr 19 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | any way to help with that? I suppose it is a matter of time which he doesn | Apr 19 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | have though | Apr 19 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | a new job and little spare time led to this | Apr 19 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but worry not, at least the verbal commitment is there | Apr 19 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | 12 months ago it was not that good | Apr 19 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | judging by volume of daily links, easter monday too got shaved off as a holiday | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | each year it feels to me like the "champion" economy and the "bext system!" | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | is trying to sustain itself like the EPO does | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | by stealing more and more from workers | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | Battistelli tookm away many holidays | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | his orange minion brought nonse back | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | *non | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | *none | Apr 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | holiday became "long weekend" and long weekend is now just "slow Friday" | Apr 19 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | boohoo! can't wait till dec 24th (rianne already booked a day off work so we can | Apr 19 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | bargain-hunt that day) when we have a "long weekend" again | Apr 19 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, the presence of any links at all is due almost entuirely to | Apr 19 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec | trolling through the RSS feeds | Apr 19 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in quiterss | Apr 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it doesn't feel much different than the average weekene | Apr 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe cause I mostly follow non-corporate blogs | Apr 19 08:17 |
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| Techrights-sec | same | Apr 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | can't complain | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to post some things to "feel" productive | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I don't need a break from work/kids/stress | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I had some tgasks in my TODO list which I relied on the "long weekend" (formerly known as holiday) | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get everything done | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of the backup stuff for instance | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of stuff happening in the background | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | without it, I'd be able to write more | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I lowered my irc activities a bit | Apr 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of the time it's not leading to any good articles | Apr 19 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 19 08:23 |
| Techrights-sec | excercise several times per day is important and getting up from the computer every 20 minutes for at least a few miniutes is essenti | Apr 19 08:23 |
| Techrights-sec | al | Apr 19 08:23 |
| Techrights-sec | ok if it is in good hands with mincer | Apr 19 08:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | one potential area to expand in: find more stuff, esp. aggregator, for Planet Gemini | Apr 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is where I go for all my "discoverables" | Apr 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | as for exercise, I got my shotput ball wrapped up in a used pillowcase to do exercise with, like in a gym | Apr 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other ball is with a friend, Mark | Apr 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not seen him in 10 months due to the plague | Apr 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's no sign of that being brought under control | Apr 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we are the controls!!!" | Apr 19 08:26 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Apr 19 08:27 |
| Techrights-sec | if you had 3 you could juggle but only if there are neighbor below :P | Apr 19 08:27 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, there is no sign of leveling off anywhere that I have read about | Apr 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is the proper 7.2kg, the 6kg is with my friend | Apr 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | he too might be using it sometimes | Apr 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I don't want to ask for it back | Apr 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | one can be creative to get the same done with one, like one set each arm | Apr 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and stairs foir climbing exercise | Apr 19 08:28 |
| Techrights-sec | "The Flying Karamazov Brothers" used to challeng the audience to bring | Apr 19 08:31 |
| Techrights-sec | up 3 things to juggle until one person brought up to the stage | Apr 19 08:31 |
| Techrights-sec | 1) a bowling ball | Apr 19 08:31 |
| Techrights-sec | 2) a pingpong ball | Apr 19 08:31 |
| Techrights-sec | 3) a pound of butter | Apr 19 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | LOL! | Apr 19 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | paper, rock, scissors | Apr 19 08:31 |
| Techrights-sec | they've since modified the rules for their challenge | Apr 19 08:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | Chinese Republic of Macron https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/18/french-president-again-calls-for-an-end-to-online-anonymity/ | Apr 19 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-French President (Again) Calls For An End To Online Anonymity | Techdirt | Apr 19 08:37 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I should prepare to explain that my two masks and hoodie are a religious ritual | Apr 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that it would violate by religious freedom to identify with something other | Apr 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | than fingerprints on cash In hand out | Apr 19 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | LOL might work | Apr 19 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | these days | Apr 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | next, the "cranks" and "COVIDiots" are people who take their health seriously | Apr 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | according yo modified government narratives and leaflets | Apr 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | worse yet -- they might be terroprists anmd pedos waiting to attack | Apr 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | "take off their mask! Punch the nazis" | Apr 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I should form a united front with Saudi women! | Apr 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | We do have some shared interests after all!! | Apr 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not the Saudi feminists, the ones who protect the sexists) | Apr 19 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/ | Apr 19 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | even back then it was a business | Apr 19 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | A Look Behind The Plague Doctor Mask | Apr 19 08:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | next, the "cranks" and "COVIDiots" are people who take their health seriously | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | according yo modified government narratives and leaflets | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | worse yet -- they might be terroprists anmd pedos waiting to attack | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "take off their mask! Punch the nazis" | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I should form a united front with Saudi women! | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | We do have some shared interests after all!! | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not the Saudi feminists, the ones who protect the sexists) | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said in the video from Sunday, part of the objective is to keep people away | Apr 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have millions of infections per month | Apr 19 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/ | Apr 19 08:43 |
| Techrights-sec | even back then it was a business | Apr 19 08:43 |
| Techrights-sec | from the link above "Canes also make handy tools for enforcing social distancing, which was actually something medieval and Renaissa | Apr 19 08:43 |
| Techrights-sec | nce people had realized could slow the spread of plague." | Apr 19 08:43 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 19 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | "There should be a mandatory course in public health in our nation's law schools." https://www.commondreams.org/n | Apr 19 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.commondreams.org/n ) | Apr 19 09:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ews/2022/04/18/right-wing-judge-kills-cdc-mask-mandate-travel | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't want people who use PUBLIC transport to live long anyway | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you are a RICH sociopath | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | pollute | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | infect | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | saddle with debt | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | saturate with narcotics | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | make sure they reproduce like rabits | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | more consumers and collaterals for debt | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "There are (IIRC) 168 hours in a week! WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK, WORK HARDER, PEASANTS!" | Apr 19 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | funny thought that occured to me many times while walking back home | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5-7 years ago I was thinking, as I walked | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Assange is in there posting things from an embasst | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | not touching a pavement for many years | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | now, assange is stuck in a cell with signal deprivation for 1000+ days | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | whereas me and rianne are like him inside the embassy | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | doing workouts at home | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | going up and down a bit | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | So one might joke that for many in soviety, esp. non-docile folks, | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | prison is the next phase | Apr 19 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 19 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | sensory | Apr 19 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have always found it ridiculous that rich people are confined to home arrests | Apr 19 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have mansions!! | Apr 19 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Is that supposed to teach them a lesson? | Apr 19 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "work harder, make a bigger mansion, as one day this mansion will be your cell|" | Apr 19 09:28 |
| Techrights-sec | mansions are large and often have a lot of facilities on sitge | Apr 19 09:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's aunt has bad news | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | her husband died | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I knew him | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | he died while jogging | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone found him dead | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | next month we'll travel to here (Yorkshire) | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | because she wants family to be with her | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | to not be alone at home | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne will probably stay over a few days | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will visit for the day and get back | Apr 19 09:54 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks sad. my condolences | Apr 19 09:54 |
| Techrights-sec | take extra strong filters for the train | Apr 19 09:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are still debating the details here | Apr 19 09:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe rianne stays there 3 nights, then brings her here for some days | Apr 19 09:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | we still have 2 spa/massage vouchers | Apr 19 09:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've not used due to concerns (about contact) | Apr 19 09:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I reckon they can use those | Apr 19 09:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | in Dec. 2018 I slepyt "away" (Berlin) | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ever since then the nightly cron jobs have meant | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot easily be afk overnight | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | possible, but can be tricky | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cron jobs were set up around 2019 | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, all this is not applicable, still up to debate, until next month | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | for rianne it'll be good to spend a lot of time with family | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | she is a nurse and very COVID-aware | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I don't worry about THAT | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | If there's a guest I feel safe being here, it's her | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a side note, a friend who is a nurse killed herself recently | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a doctor at the hospital also killed himself this year | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | those don't count as COVID deaths | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mental and financial devastation cause due to or alongside the | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | pandemic do not get added to tallies | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | today in irc (main channel) our young ukrainian lad is again talking | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | about him being suicidal | Apr 19 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | (an hour ago) | Apr 19 10:03 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ the stress at those jobs is terrible in normal times and as the politicians | Apr 19 10:05 |
| Techrights-sec | ramp it up to drive people to privatized | Apr 19 10:05 |
| Techrights-sec | war is awful )thatäs an understatement= | Apr 19 10:05 |
| Techrights-sec | hope he hangs in there most of the rest of Europe supports defense of | Apr 19 10:05 |
| Techrights-sec | UA but the bureaucracy is deadly slow to act on it | Apr 19 10:05 |
| Techrights-sec | tech savy is important in these times | Apr 19 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am careful not to say the wrong things | Apr 19 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | saying nothing is also unhelpful | Apr 19 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is about 18 | Apr 19 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but VERY tech-savvy and mature in this regard | Apr 19 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs also (22) | Apr 19 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is JOURNALISM DONCHU NO??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/ | Apr 19 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter: We’re Actually a News Site, Follow These ‘Tweets’ and Twits | Techrights | Apr 19 10:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the trigger word was mentioned in IRC | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | CoC and PoCoC | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | which triggered a troll | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but "matey" shot the troll and the troll lost | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will use an alarm clock from the 90s that uses fm and am radio | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it still works | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | earlier this month I let it run on for a bit | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. into commercial breaks and "content" | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | what an awful pile of shit it was | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | i eneded up mentally drained | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | before even waking out of bed | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter is JOURNALISM DONCHU NO??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/ | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Yesterday I was thinking of the AOL flopppy=subscriber slant | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | When Twitter says it has "x active users" | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | what does Twitter Inc. mean?? | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Active as in clicked on some twitter link in Gulag search and had twitter browser cookie? | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Logged in but just reading | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Logged in in past 365 days? | Apr 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Reading but not posting? Not even liking? You know what the Twitter CFO will favour,,, | Apr 19 10:37 |
| Techrights-sec | I can't tolerate any commercial radio or television, and not just because of | Apr 19 10:37 |
| Techrights-sec | the ads | Apr 19 10:37 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, there is a strong parallel from what I see | Apr 19 10:37 |
| Techrights-sec | it sounds like they are lying about a lot of stats | Apr 19 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have repeatedly stated, and can provide some prooof/evidence, that they herd all the users | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | into few accounts/tweets/topics | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they funnel in all the traffic to give a false impression of importance | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might as well pay MSM to feed into this frenzt | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the past the traffic was more nicely spread | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now they herd people into few places by provoking them | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | if now pushing things, even into "NOTIFICATIONS" | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | thinss that have nothing to do with you | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they show me "tweets" from people I do not "follow" | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my notifications bar | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I last saw it when I checked last week | Apr 19 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec | tht would be profitable for them to do and be easy for them to do and | Apr 19 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec | be low risk for them to do so it is probable that even without strong | Apr 19 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec | evidence one can presume it is being done | Apr 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might try to argue they are trying to help YOU! | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | To know what's important | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pluocrats have long sought ways to control public rage | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and tpo shift focus to and away from certain topics | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like FB rebranding as "mta" | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | to break the news/noise cycle | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, the "Linux" events that pocker money from these mobsters | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they change their sites to say "meta" is a sponsor | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF has one for meta, one for FB | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Microsoft with the two palms, GitHub and Microsoft | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was gona say something else ebut forgot | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | though maybe it was about FB doing its "experiments" with manipulatiob of emotions | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they do not need to make it directly profitable | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can rent or outright sell the platforms to oligarchs like Trump and Musk | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they want to "take turns" | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence resist the temptatiun to sell to just one power broker | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | butr the ability to shift TO and AWQAY from topics all around the world | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | in many languages | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | is incredible powerful | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with media scattered across nations, languages and different owners it's very easy to | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | coordinates blackouts etc. | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have much to say about how Russian invasion was handled by social control media | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that might get me labeled "Russian agents" or "apologist" | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | media consolidation has been studied as a threat for decades | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | few dare question consolidatiomn aspects | Apr 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | of this new form of aggregatinon | Apr 19 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | like one universal fake RSS reader | Apr 19 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | where rich people and politicians constantyly stick their palms | Apr 19 10:47 |
| Techrights-sec | RSS is mostly limited to blogs, as far as the useful stuff goes | Apr 19 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | Well, that's too bad then :-) | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | So I won't be seeing much of the corporate "media" | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Like I said earlier, one area for expansion might be Planet Gemini | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw only one sponsored spam there so far | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | As for my patent feed, good lord! I have to go through maybe 40 shits to find just one decent article | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I found an approach of extracting value from the set | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I lowered its priority in general | Apr 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't trust Planets they are good usually for only a while after they | Apr 19 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | are first set up and then people either figure out how to game them | Apr 19 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or otherwise start maniupulating the output | Apr 19 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I don't trust Planets they are good usually for only a while after they | Apr 19 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | are first set up and then people either figure out how to game them | Apr 19 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | or otherwise start maniupulating the output | Apr 19 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | 40:1 is still better than what has become the new average | Apr 19 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | FWIW it's Earth Day again on Friday, but the airlines are increasing their | Apr 19 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | flights again and on top of that were still flying empty planes to "keep" their slots at the airports. | Apr 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not enough people "help" them by flying, then maybe our regimes | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | should bail them out some more | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | IOW, taking our money as taxpayers forcibly | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | to feed the likes of starving Dick Bransom and his ilk | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | because planes are too big to FALL | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they help prototype bombers and jets | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | we really need those | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | for their very very "precise" targeting | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Boeing: we make missiles and war planes | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | (we also design some made-in-china, assembled-in-Murica "civilian" products) | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are the "JBO CREATORS", bail us out. | Apr 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Biden, increase the military budget. Ukraine something.... | Apr 19 11:11 |
| Techrights-sec | unfortunately most of the military budget looks like graft and other | Apr 19 11:12 |
| Techrights-sec | non-producing crap, such as the large bailouts to M$ | Apr 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hoplolens BS doesn't seem like it's coming to fruition | Apr 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "media deserts" occasionally float some puff piece about parents' homes | Apr 19 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | who will be held accountable for this theft (graft)? | Apr 19 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | can't criticise "the troops", they keep US/us safe... | Apr 19 11:13 |
| Techrights-sec | that's what it amounts to -- theft -- and money spent there means taht | Apr 19 11:14 |
| Techrights-sec | actual effective tools are not bought or used so lives are lost directly | Apr 19 11:14 |
| Techrights-sec | and indirectly | Apr 19 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | fiscally eugenicist :-) | Apr 19 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | (the use and misuse of money to eliminate the "undesirable" -- to the fake economy -- elements) | Apr 19 11:16 |
| Techrights-sec | again those with a base level of altruism, patriotism/loyalty, health, | Apr 19 11:18 |
| Techrights-sec | intellect, and education are those that are entering the military service | Apr 19 11:18 |
| Techrights-sec | under a defacto draft due to poverty and such; so it is those attributes | Apr 19 11:18 |
| Techrights-sec | which are being eliminated from society | Apr 19 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | if microsoft could get money from qatar for computing services in a department that doe snot have computers | Apr 19 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the US regime turns a blind eye to complaints about it | Apr 19 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | why not hand over $22,000,000,000 to Microsoft for something that will never be delivered? | Apr 19 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "SUPPORT THE TROOPS.... TROOPS NEED HELMETS!!!" | Apr 19 11:18 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 19 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | qatarr and worse | Apr 19 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | entering the miliatary lowers their biological fitness, for the most part | Apr 19 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | there are many drawbacks with few to no benefits and even when there are | Apr 19 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | advantages they are usually offset by the disadvantages. | Apr 19 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/forever-chemical-poisons-drinking-water-near-military-bases-n1101736 | Apr 19 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nbcnews.com | A 'forever chemical' contaminates drinking water near military bases | Apr 19 11:19 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfas-forever-chemicals-groundwater-us-military-bases/ | Apr 19 11:20 |
| Techrights-sec | https://apnews.com/article/us-army-fort-ord-chemical-exposure-cancer-c1078dd520322f2a4130e2f7077b7892 | Apr 19 11:20 |
| Techrights-sec | many bases, not just one or two | Apr 19 11:20 |
| Techrights-sec | and it affects the communities nearby as well | Apr 19 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbsnews.com | Toxic "forever chemicals" found in groundwater near more U.S. military bases - CBS News | Apr 19 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apnews.com | What Lies Beneath: Vets worry polluted base made them ill | AP News | Apr 19 11:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | don't worry, there are no military bases anywhere near manhattan and beverly hills | Apr 19 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Rape https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/i-can-do-whatever-i-want-to-you | Apr 19 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | reminded me of Okinawa when I first saw it | Apr 19 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Apr 19 11:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | or the women who drank poison when the Sovets advanced towards Berlin | Apr 19 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | that last article is a longer read | Apr 19 11:24 |
| Techrights-sec | unfortunately it's all throttled through facebook | Apr 19 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | another cancer alley-like story | Apr 19 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I saw it in alternative media years before th MSM touched the matter | Apr 19 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | first in hawaii IIRC | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | pentagon is the world's biggest contributor to both pollution and climate change IIRC | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | air, water etc. | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft ios again copying ICBM | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | for many years ICBM made a tons of money off gov/military contracts | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Aamzon is also entering the space | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | as even domestically states enagage in war and intel operations against | Apr 19 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | their "own" population | Apr 19 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Youre not just serving for six years, like me, and then youre out, she said. If youve been given cancer, thats a life sentence | Apr 19 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | . | Apr 19 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | most bases with heavy equipment (which is nearly all) especially planes | Apr 19 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | are toxic | Apr 19 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | carbon and chemicals | Apr 19 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | yes amazzon is a bad deal for the nation in many ways | Apr 19 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/12/water-contamination-on-military-bases-isnt-new-and-thats-a-problem/ | Apr 19 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.civilbeat.org | Water Contamination On Military Bases Isn't New. And That's A Problem - Honolulu Civil Beat | Apr 19 11:28 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 19 11:29 | |
| schestowitz-TR | why was the subject suppressed by the media for so long | Apr 19 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what finally broke the silence | Apr 19 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, what will the outcome of this "ourage" be? | Apr 19 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | fewer planes? | Apr 19 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | greenwashing? | Apr 19 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | reperations? (LOL, sorry I spat out my coffee) | Apr 19 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec | o | Apr 19 11:31 |
| Techrights-sec | outrage which will be express impotently as "tweets" which are so ephemeral | Apr 19 11:31 |
| Techrights-sec | 'that no one will notice | Apr 19 11:31 |
| Techrights-sec | ' | Apr 19 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so Musk Social will change the trending a bit with a few button presses | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe add some will smith or kardahian arse to herd people some other place | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | when it comes to ourage cycles, the subject have been studied | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can change people'e aattention span and outrage quotient or faces | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | ('rage-shifting' for lack of a proper term) | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | in less than 18 months | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe in 18 seconds | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "she said what?" | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "he slapped who?" | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Trump tweets WHAT??" | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, few people still read "long form" | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | books, long articles etc. | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it's some action firms with breasts and explosions | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | re techrights, not many topics I see for today | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's alright, we have a large trove of material and the important thing is keeping the site online, running, ranks | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK for people to find info on pertinent info they look for | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne finished cooking and is now posting to TM | Apr 19 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will follow after she's done (we try to avoid overlap for risk of "dupes") | Apr 19 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | *very* few people /can/ read long form any more | Apr 19 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | of those not all actually do | Apr 19 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | and to paraphrase an unattributed / unattributable saying, | Apr 19 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | there is no difference between those that cannot read and those that do not | Apr 19 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | read | Apr 19 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | in practice | Apr 19 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | same with swimming and many other things | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not driven for a long time but can still drive OK | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | driving is actually very easy with today's cars | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the human rights issues aside | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | even parking became simpler because they give you prompts about cars, pavements and show you angles you could not | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | get before | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | \ | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, my video about LF CoC was in front page of LXer | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are the sorts of topics you do NOT expect to appear (or stay) in Reddit, Fucker News, and other | Apr 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporate BS that posthumously exploits victims of themselves | Apr 19 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Apr 19 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | news of actual vericity is again thin today | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I think I will take it easy and focus on my maintenance tasks from TODO | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | things like backups and shuffling around equipment (did lots of that yesterday again) | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I work 5:30pm onwards | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne barelyy found news worthy of TM this morning | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll widen the draft nets a bit | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | *drift | Apr 19 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | *veracity | Apr 19 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can tell I'm not alarmed by IRC typos, I think people can recognise the informal value of it | Apr 19 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in case of faux pas you can use the typos to reaffirm this assertion that IRC | Apr 19 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | should be interpreted as informal | Apr 19 11:59 |
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| Techrights-sec | it may be nextweek before the news recovers a bit but it seems that for many | Apr 19 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec | years the news diminishes permanently after each major holida | Apr 19 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that's to do with operational cycles | Apr 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, your contract ends at the end of the year i.e. dec 23rd | Apr 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | or various other decision made effective after a break | Apr 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, personally, it seems like assurance that our articles | Apr 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | on particular topics will be ranked higher | Apr 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. those which are very old and have no "competition" left | Apr 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | online | Apr 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | keeping sites online is not cheap | Apr 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the MBAs and marketers who run interferences do not know even the very basics | Apr 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and need to hire companies like us, under SLA, to do simple stuff like | Apr 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | restart mysql or apply system updates | Apr 19 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | it may be nextweek before the news recovers a bit but it seems that for many | Apr 19 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | years the news diminishes permanently after each major holiday | Apr 19 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps it is something like that | Apr 19 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | yes but overall it would be better for more sites to cover important issues | Apr 19 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | well | Apr 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sites which perrish (not blogs IME) are doing more harm than good, on average | Apr 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the output is decided on by advertisers | Apr 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | A lot of Mono and .NET boosting came not from blogs | Apr 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but from complicity corporate media | Apr 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | hotice how zdnet too fell to less than 50% of its capacity 2 years ago | Apr 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what we want!!! | Apr 19 12:54 |
| Techrights-sec | well | Apr 19 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | kind of. as zdnet is now, it would be better for the world if it shutdown; however the zdnet of 20 years ago was great and had prope | Apr 19 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | r FOSS coverage, like | Apr 19 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | most magazines also had back then; BYTE was one of the first shutdown IIRC | Apr 19 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | CMP killed it probably because all the editors became enthusiastic about | Apr 19 12:55 |
| Techrights-sec | "Linux" | Apr 19 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | many other CMP "properties" in its "portfolio" vanished or became inactive | Apr 19 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | one of those "toxic asets" to put on the "bad" book or "balance sheet" | Apr 19 12:56 |
| Techrights-sec | yes their goal is to shutdown anything that's not toeing the line | Apr 19 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | It's not an investment per se, though they may try to call it that in the | Apr 19 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | press release, but instead an ideological maneuver | Apr 19 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Elop <3 Nokia | Apr 19 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Icahn <3 Yahoo! | Apr 19 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft <3 Linux | Apr 19 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I supported LF when it started | Apr 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Now I cannot wait to see it reaching its "successful bankruptcy" | Apr 19 13:00 |
| Techrights-sec | yes LF seemed like a good idea at the beginning, if I understand | Apr 19 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | correctly it was to provide independent employment for Linus but rather quickly it | Apr 19 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | got infiltrated by microsofters and subverted to represent corporate interests | Apr 19 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | within the kernel rather than general promotion and advancement of the | Apr 19 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | kernel itself. No project is too small for M$ to attack and LF was not | Apr 19 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | just big but important. | Apr 19 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now, in turn, LF is used to corrupt media | Apr 19 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | FOSS Force is one of many | Apr 19 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | FOSSforce fell more recently | Apr 19 13:06 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I think we need to research tidelift and explain to people what this POS is | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like another OSI if not worse | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I once heard a Red Hat founder too was involved | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I found out they'r e bankrolled by 'curious' entities | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | that remind me of things we saw in the novell era | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:17] <techrights-news> Regarding TideLift, it's funded by 'former' Microsoft as the General Manager of General Gatalyst (Quentin C | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | lark) | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:42] <techrights-news> Don't ask Tidelift about Stalin. It might say something about Hitler being bad and thus Stalin being good. | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Tidelift = corporate shills. | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:41] <techrights-news> Tidelift is a longtime Microsoft booster, in effect trying to reform the image of a company that commits cr | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | imes and attacks Free software https://tidelift.com/about/lifter/microsoft_commits https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr | Apr 19 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tidelift.com | Which open source projects has Microsoft committed to? | Apr 19 16:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | osofts-surprising-open-source-track-record | Apr 19 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr ) | Apr 19 16:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:36] <techrights-news> tidelift is joining the Microsoft-led FUD campaign https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou | Apr 19 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou ) | Apr 19 16:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | rce-developers-most-urgent-challenge-while-complying-with-government-requirements-is-a-rising-concern see http://techrights.org/2022/ | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | 01/14/white-house-security-theatre/ | Apr 19 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 2022 | Techrights | Apr 19 16:20 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 19 16:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Apr 19 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years at Microsoft, now behind tidelift https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/uncategorised/quentinclark/ | Apr 19 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thetwentyminutevc.com | 20VC: Lessons From Working with Bill Gates, How To Lead Without Authority and The Difference Between Leadership and Management & How Fundraising Changes In A COVID World with Quentin Clark, Managing Director @ General Catalyst - 20VC | Apr 19 16:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to do at least one blog post on the matter | Apr 19 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also have "everyone who opposes me is homophobic" Simmons | Apr 19 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 19 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec | shills and astroturfers abound | Apr 19 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 19 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 19 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I seem to have underestimated how awful they are | Apr 19 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they were first introduced it still seemed benign | Apr 19 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they are another black duck | Apr 19 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | pretending to speak 'for' us | Apr 19 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec | blackduck and snyk and other fake fronts | Apr 19 16:25 |
| Techrights-sec | I have met people fooled by blackduck | Apr 19 16:25 |
| Techrights-sec | most people don't know where to turn for information so they believe the | Apr 19 16:25 |
| Techrights-sec | marketing lies spread by the two | Apr 19 16:25 |
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| Techrights-sec | I used to read MásGNULinux and notice that the daily links mention of | Apr 19 19:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Pedro Francisco's passing. Any more details about that? | Apr 19 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | lwn, gnu, and the project | Apr 19 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I put these in TM | Apr 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | lwn links to the email | Apr 19 19:35 |
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| Techrights-sec | Yes the LWN and the | Apr 19 19:36 |
| Techrights-sec | Savannah links were about the same e-mail. | Apr 19 19:36 |
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| Techrights-sec | Apr 19 19:46 | |
| Techrights-sec | Perhaps there is more somewhere? The actual site he ran has been offline | Apr 19 19:46 |
| Techrights-sec | for a long time. | Apr 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne has just mistakenly posted a dupe | Apr 19 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to a different source | Apr 19 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and out of respect we decided to leave it | Apr 19 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I told her you had asked about him | Apr 19 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you find more, post here or in next batch/es and I will add as a comment | Apr 19 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights Daily Links title included his name | Apr 19 19:47 |
| Techrights-sec | It has been offline since last year basically | Apr 19 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Apr 19 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | https://web.archive.org/web/*/www.masgnulinux.es | Apr 19 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Wayback Machine | Apr 19 19:48 | |
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