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Techrights-secHeard a rumor that all the web shops with an EU presence must meet someMay 19 07:58
Techrights-secbasic level of accessibiity.  However, no source yet and, of course, May 19 07:58
Techrights-secthe devil is in the details even if they do comply by 2025.  May 19 07:58
Techrights-secIt might be an opportunity to eliminate the dependency on javascriptMay 19 07:58
Techrights-secand move from "web apps" back to actual web pages.May 19 07:58
Techrights-sechttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-180522.html#tMay%2018%2020:22:22May 19 07:58
Techrights-secLPI or LF ought to help bail out Costa RicaMay 19 07:58
Techrights-secCosta Rica is at war with M$, not Conti, but does not admit itMay 19 07:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, May 18, 2022May 19 07:58
schestowitz-TRdamn. after 200 or so days my xfce4 lost power overnightMay 19 08:02
schestowitz-TRno I need to restore ther  whole sessionMay 19 08:02
schestowitz-TRsole upside is, I can restore it better than beforeMay 19 08:02
schestowitz-TRand workflows have changedMay 19 08:02
Techrights-secLPI and LF ought to make an effort to help Costa Rica out of their Windoze#########May 19 08:51
Techrights-secpredicament, Conti is only partially to blame, the presence of Windows allowsMay 19 08:51
Techrights-secransomware to thriveMay 19 08:51
schestowitz-TRI think our session got a little affected by  me trying to re-access it from "cavan"May 19 08:52
schestowitz-TRI am shuffleing many things aroundMay 19 08:52
schestowitz-TRtaking the opportunity to better distribute tasksMay 19 08:52
schestowitz-TRnew is very slowMay 19 08:52
schestowitz-TRI found no topic eysterdatMay 19 08:52
schestowitz-TRsilence is better than impulsive crapMay 19 08:52
Techrights-secyepMay 19 08:53
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schestowitz-TR "Part of the reason for this weiphlog was to call bullshit on social media: on the itch we have to be heard in a forum. The toxic itch for professorial exhibition." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~shufei/phlog/Shufei-ThisAndThat-Weiphlog.gmiMay 19 09:07
Techrights-secackMay 19 09:20
schestowitz-TRminor point: christine hall wrote something yesterdayMay 19 09:34
schestowitz-TRyes, it's significantMay 19 09:34
schestowitz-TRas the blog was mostly dead latelyMay 19 09:34
Techrights-secI stopped reading her site a while backMay 19 09:34
schestowitz-TRbut many of the articles have neen lf and ibm boostingMay 19 09:34
schestowitz-TRit's not "organic"May 19 09:34
schestowitz-TRit's paid-for agendaMay 19 09:34
schestowitz-TRthere mau be a dead of change on the WebMay 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRnot what we see right nowMay 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRbut something more profoundMay 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRas webspam is becoming very widespreadMay 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRthere's no news!May 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRcertainly not in patentsMay 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRand "linux" became the sameMay 19 09:35
schestowitz-TRsocial control media at crossroadsMay 19 09:35
Techrights-secsocial control media is part of that problem since so many take shortcutsMay 19 09:37
Techrights-secand instead of doing even a minimal amount of investigation, just checkingMay 19 09:37
Techrights-secto see what twitter wants them to seeMay 19 09:37
schestowitz-TRcomment moderationm became "uneconomic" because people remark in censored, filters social controlMay 19 09:37
schestowitz-TRmedia and not in comment facilities of blogsMay 19 09:37
schestowitz-TRthat's like disqus ousourcing but biggerMay 19 09:37
schestowitz-TRand lowers the incentive for news sites to carry on at allMay 19 09:37
Techrights-secby steering readers over to social control medai they actively reduce theMay 19 09:37
Techrights-seclikelihood that they will return to the site and over time there is enoughMay 19 09:37
Techrights-secattrition for it be a significant drop in numbers :(May 19 09:37
schestowitz-TRyes, exactlyMay 19 09:38
schestowitz-TRmany young people never heard of rssMay 19 09:38
schestowitz-TRand they are becoming fluent in algospeakMay 19 09:38
schestowitz-TRand memorising emojisMay 19 09:38
Techrights-secwhich just means that first their speech, then their behavior, then theirMay 19 09:46
Techrights-secthoughts become warped to Twitter's (and the others') agenda.May 19 09:46
Techrights-secPerhaps more importantly, they are not learning or growing mentally, emotionallyMay 19 09:46
Techrights-secInstead they are addicted to an interface which provides only highly ephemeralMay 19 09:46
Techrights-secstimulation in exchange for "emitting behaviors" like a handheld skinner box.May 19 09:46
schestowitz-TRdigg was a form of agamification May 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRI could never understand why one-line comment of "like" or "digg"May 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRwas any more worthy than propert communicationMay 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRlike ircMay 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRwhere you can interact in real timeMay 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRsocial control media is having massive delays in communicstionMay 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRand the topics are thus all over the placeMay 19 09:50
schestowitz-TRso the debate cannot developMay 19 09:50
Techrights-secthey can't memorize the emojis since they change meaning over the weeks thatMay 19 09:51
Techrights-secpass.May 19 09:51
Techrights-secLike I said, it's highly ephemeral.May 19 09:51
Techrights-secDigg censored very heavily.May 19 09:51
Techrights-secAny time you bring up Digg, I will recall that it blocked any and all mentionMay 19 09:51
Techrights-secof the OpenDocument Format and related material on Open Standards.May 19 09:51
Techrights-secTR published article/s about ODF in DiggMay 19 09:55
Techrights-secbut it was a very long time agoMay 19 09:55
schestowitz-TRTR published article/s about ODF in DiggMay 19 09:55
schestowitz-TRbut it was a very long time agoMay 19 09:55
Techrights-secYes, I recall that TR tried but they were quickly sidelined there, as wasMay 19 09:55
Techrights-secanything related to ODF.  May 19 09:55
schestowitz-TRback in those days our company run an EVENT for ODFMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRnow we have some fools who do web-basedMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRlike it's OKMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRI was thinking of your standards work yesterdayMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRbut I cannot remember the substance or contextMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRit could not even been so important, else I'd have brought it upMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRbut document formats are barely even a topic anymoreMay 19 09:57
schestowitz-TRfor that matter (continuing my thoughts)May 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRnow we have "apps", not "web"May 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRand "web" is "webapps"May 19 10:00
schestowitz-TReven things like twitter devolved in this wayMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRsimilarly, rss is not a thingMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRownership is not a thingMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TR"streaming"May 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRDRMMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRthere's a storm brewingMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRI want to see what happens when some "tech titans" collapseMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRand the aftermathMay 19 10:00
schestowitz-TRsometiems it feels like we just need to be patient and persistg until some storms passesMay 19 10:04
schestowitz-TRmany won't make it to the other sideMay 19 10:04
schestowitz-TRand this is fineMay 19 10:04
schestowitz-TRbut the important thing is to maintain operations and come to the other sideMay 19 10:04
schestowitz-TRsoftware freedom is under attack for decades alreadyMay 19 10:04
schestowitz-TRbut 39 years later it's still hereMay 19 10:04
Techrights-secyes but unfortunately proprietary software still has a noticeable presenceMay 19 10:11
Techrights-secand above all in schools, that is *extremely* harmful May 19 10:11
schestowitz-TRschools get targeted deliberatelyMay 19 10:12
schestowitz-TRartment of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/15/corporate-media-ignore-left-critiques-governments-new-disinformation-board | Source: Common DreamsMay 19 10:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Corporate Media Ignore Left Critiques of Government's New 'Disinformation' Board | Julianne TvetenMay 19 10:14
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Disinformation has become a central tool in the United States and Russia’s expanding information war." ☛ https://fair.org/home/disinformation-label-serves-to-marginalize-crucial-ukraine-facts/ | Source: FAIRMay 19 10:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | 'Disinformation' Label Serves to Marginalize Crucial Ukraine Facts - FAIRMay 19 10:15
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "disinformation" or pretext for censorship? ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/05/18/dhs-disinformation-board-put-on-pause-after-backlash/ | Source: ScheerpostMay 19 10:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DHS ‘Disinformation’ Board Put on ‘Pause’ After Backlash – scheerpost.comMay 19 10:15
Techrights-secyes and it is related to the disinformation campaign in that they use a May 19 10:17
Techrights-secsimilar principle.  When people adopt a position on a topic, they very rarelyMay 19 10:17
Techrights-seclet facts subsquently interfere with that position.  So the proprietary shopsMay 19 10:17
Techrights-secaim to get children exposed to their products before anything else.  May 19 10:17
Techrights-secAlso M$ damages society by being so illogical, complicated, and convolted, soMay 19 10:17
Techrights-secthat any kid that claims to be interested in computers will be driven awayMay 19 10:18
Techrights-secunless they are compliant.  Those that make the cut will be useless for real computing on the basis on their inability to workMay 19 10:18
Techrights-seclogically.  Thus you end upMay 19 10:18
Techrights-secwith a pool of clowns, exclusively, in regards to what the industry has become.May 19 10:18
Techrights-secSame for research since those who would have surpassing skills are culledMay 19 10:18
Techrights-secearly on.  May 19 10:18
schestowitz-TRI think this is the subject of Mark's next bookMay 19 10:18
Techrights-secWhen is that book due?May 19 10:19
schestowitz-TRhe is probably too busy marking up exams and other nonsese at the 'school'May 19 10:19
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Techrights-secackMay 19 10:21
schestowitz-TR[bing rant]May 19 10:25
schestowitz-TR*big  May 19 10:25
schestowitz-TR(need outlet)May 19 10:25
schestowitz-TRwoke up this morning, one laptop shut downMay 19 10:25
schestowitz-TRI was suspicious of it when I went to bed, double-checkedMay 19 10:25
schestowitz-TRit's one of two where the socket is super sensitiveMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRand I can sometimes catch it when not afkMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRafter convincing myself "maybe for the better" (mental trick)May 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRbecause I reshuffled tasks around (xfce unlike kde does not restore sessiopns afisk)May 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRthe other laptop also shut down, at 9amMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRI complained about this one in IRC last nightMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRthey both have a loose connection near the power inletMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRand it's like voodoo magic getting it rightMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRso now I need to spend my whole morning shuffl things againMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRto feel like I gain on productivityMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRthankfully the news seemed slowMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRbased ona  rapid alta visdta before rianne has a pass at itMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRthe setup here is underutilised aMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRand Istill don't know what happens ij the company and thus if I can phase out some thingsMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRthe lack of certainty is a nuisanceMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRfore the company, the lack of a future is a years-long issueMay 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRas a non-shareholders I did not care as long as I could "milk"May 19 10:26
schestowitz-TRsub-rant"May 19 10:29
schestowitz-TRdepending on distro and version, some machines have synergyMay 19 10:29
schestowitz-TRsome only have barrierMay 19 10:29
schestowitz-TRso the main laptop connects to two laptops over synergyMay 19 10:29
schestowitz-TRand two over barrierMay 19 10:29
schestowitz-TReven just shoehorning the darn thing into some distros was hard workMay 19 10:29
schestowitz-TRthe issue is, the motion of the mouse is counterintuitiveMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRas you cannot properly assign cornersMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRyou have to memorse that going to the far left means going all the way to the rightMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRbecause the layout is set separately for barrier and synergy May 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRover different port numbersMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRand the two bits of software, which are based on similar codebase, do not mix wellMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRthe lack of intuitive mouse motion costs timeMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRI had it perfect int he old office May 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRbut then I could no longer trust the ssd so addeed a new laptop and another screenMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRneeded bigger deskMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRvery sub-optimal atmMay 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRI should take advatage of news slowness and tackle thisMay 19 10:30
Techrights-secackMay 19 10:33
Techrights-secsometimes it is necessary to invest in improving the local infrastructureMay 19 10:37
schestowitz-TRa never ending optimisation problem when the hardware keeps changingMay 19 10:38
schestowitz-TRnew hardware, new fault, new conditionsMay 19 10:38
schestowitz-TRin winter I might go back upstairsMay 19 10:38
schestowitz-TRfor heat mostlyMay 19 10:38
Techrights-secyes, frequent tuning is necessary plus the occasional major adjustmentMay 19 10:38
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schestowitz-TRTIL: better not to have rightt-right or left-to-left in synergy/barrierMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRit's not only a technically bad thingMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRit also increases mouse journey and collisionsMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRbut I still improvise with irrational things like "go beyond to" of screen to be to the lftMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TR*leftMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRI partly blame synergyMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRfor trying to go proprietaryMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRand partly the distrosMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRas there is still a version of synergy that's freeMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRbut the new distros only include barrierMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRthat leads to a splitMay 19 11:30
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/mike34698631/status/1527155709313310720#mMay 19 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Mike-Gee (@mike34698631): "techrights.org/billwatch-res…" | nitter.itMay 19 11:32
schestowitz-TRsome very very old DBs (20+ years) are still of useMay 19 11:32
Techrights-secackMay 19 11:38
Techrights-secBill WatchMay 19 11:38
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schestowitz-TRI reckon some of the people behind it are no longer aliveMay 19 11:40
schestowitz-TRknowing their ages at the time...May 19 11:40
schestowitz-TROurs is the last copy, there are other such sites like "Boycott Microsoft"May 19 11:40
schestowitz-TRBut we do not have a full copy, IA should have oneMay 19 11:40
schestowitz-TRone day Microsoft will cease to existMay 19 11:40
schestowitz-TRbut people will recall it wronglyMay 19 11:40
schestowitz-TROne day I will wake up to the news that Bill Gates is deadMay 19 11:40
schestowitz-TRand there will be work needed to set the record straightMay 19 11:40
schestowitz-TRthe hagiographies are paid for.. for decades in advanceMay 19 11:40
Techrights-secunfortunately that twitter account is not quite the best to be associated withMay 19 11:40
Techrights-secYes, the last copy. May 19 11:40
Techrights-secIt will be hard becaue the revisionists will still work hard at it becauseMay 19 11:40
Techrights-secso many near him have dirty hands too. May 19 11:40
Techrights-secIf they bury Bill, they'll need to establish a pissoir at the headstone to    May 19 11:43
Techrights-sechandle the line of people who arrive to piss on the grave in an environmentallyMay 19 11:43
Techrights-secsound manner.  If they put a little water wheel on it, they might evenMay 19 11:43
Techrights-secbe able to power a small light or something.  May 19 11:43
schestowitz-TRI did now check that Muskster's accountMay 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRbut in that site many who speak about Bill are bad to associate with May 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRthe other day's bill's guardian posted a provocative headlineMay 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRI think the PR strategy is to associate all the critics with anttio-vaxxersMay 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRby provokign themMay 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRjust sayin'May 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRrich people can hire decent PR firmsMay 19 11:45
schestowitz-TRthey know how to play the gameMay 19 11:45
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Techrights-sec May 19 11:47
Techrights-secyes that is one of their strategies.     May 19 11:47
Techrights-secAs pages and sites disappear, today's people (young and the forgetful old both) will not accept what was common information inMay 19 11:47
Techrights-secthe 1990s.  Most any mainstreamMay 19 11:47
Techrights-sectech journals articles on M$ or Bill from that era would be dismissed out ofMay 19 11:47
Techrights-sechand nowadays as "hate".May 19 11:47
Techrights-seceven though the were all reporting on documented facts and, in some cases, May 19 11:47
Techrights-secmatters of court record.May 19 11:47
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schestowitz-TRtoday is refactoring dayMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRdon't mind me not producing many articlesMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRI spoke to rianne about the lack of clarity on what happens later this yearMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRbut I have had some vacant monmitorsMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRwhile I STILL use many virtual desktopsMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRso it's wrong! I should not have to use any virtual desktopsMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRat last when I woke up I could say no downtimeMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRonly the chat page in gemini was not updatingMay 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRas it relies on the ddos protection loop (bad design, I know)May 19 11:52
schestowitz-TRthose should be two separate jobs, not hooked together like thisMay 19 11:53
schestowitz-TRthe walmart aftermath (amazon and target aftershocks, too) will be interestingMay 19 11:55
schestowitz-TRtesco yesterday did not have many peopleMay 19 11:55
schestowitz-TRand the discount section was "too" popularMay 19 11:55
schestowitz-TRasda car park (walmart uk) was also quite vacantMay 19 11:55
schestowitz-TRshopping stopped (standstill), sports still go on, but they're just a show for the massesMay 19 11:55
Techrights-secackMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TRthose who can afford porch timeMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TR1) some are too stressed to do itMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TR2) some caught up in a job they hate 9-5May 19 12:17
schestowitz-TRI am still trying to lower our expenses a bitMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TRthen I can calculate a bunch of thingsMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TRI really don't want to do this job full timeMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TRrianne does it part time and no longer likes it eitherMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TR "This is Day 2 of "balcony sitting" - sitting out on my balcony all day, in the nice Spring weather, hammering away text on myMay 19 12:17
schestowitz-TR phone, enjoying the birds and sunshine (and rain, should it ever arrive), and just basking in the ambiance of it all." gemini:May 19 12:18
schestowitz-TR//tmo.smol.pub/1652805235May 19 12:18
schestowitz-TRsometimes people realise life isn't just about "making money"May 19 12:18
schestowitz-TRbut usually they realise it when it's too lateMay 19 12:18
schestowitz-TRand they run out of time/clockMay 19 12:18
Techrights-secackMay 19 12:20
schestowitz-TRI've just customised the xfce clock to show things more neatly with a calendar next to itMay 19 12:20
schestowitz-TRso I don't have to click on things to study weather, calendar etc.May 19 12:20
schestowitz-TRcavan backup is OK now, I had to turn off firewall in kde neonMay 19 12:20
schestowitz-TRthe scenario I am not prepared for is house fireMay 19 12:20
schestowitz-TRoffsite backups have their own riskMay 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRleave with company, risk corporations and gov.May 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRleave with a friend, worry how nosy the friend may beMay 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRI used to give a disk without the wires May 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRand if it's ext and the friend uses Windows, snooping is extra hardMay 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRthe problem is, during house move there was a lossMay 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRhe does not know where it is now, but it was misplaced internally rather than stolenMay 19 12:22
schestowitz-TRso that in itself carries riskMay 19 12:22
Techrights-secackMay 19 12:23
Techrights-secLUKS is probably adequate encryptioon for thatMay 19 12:23
schestowitz-TRyes, but that is a very large capacity and an old driveMay 19 12:25
schestowitz-TReven if discovered now, it might not mountMay 19 12:25
schestowitz-TRlike my other drive, which 2 weeks ago I turned into a brick to hold up my monitorMay 19 12:25
schestowitz-TRtbh, those 300gb drives are very small by today's standardsMay 19 12:25
schestowitz-TRso they're contained (copied onto) the newer 3tb drivesMay 19 12:25
Techrights-secIf yout have incremental backups for any period of time, you'll need at leastMay 19 12:27
Techrights-sec1TB or 2TB per collection / site.May 19 12:27
Techrights-secThey're under 70 EUR for 2TB nowadaysMay 19 12:27
schestowitz-TRall those posers in gulagtube wqith their home nasMay 19 12:27
schestowitz-TRand nas company-sponsored spam ("video")May 19 12:27
schestowitz-TRthey never mention offsiteMay 19 12:27
schestowitz-TR10 drives in a rack burn just as fast as one inside a laptopMay 19 12:27
schestowitz-TR(rianne cooking lasange at the moment, we got many paste sheets for 10p per pack; I think we save aboutMay 19 12:29
schestowitz-TR200 pounds a month on food and the hunting/shoppign can be fun... like capture the flag)May 19 12:29
schestowitz-TRsome people in youtube turn that into a gameMay 19 12:29
Techrights-secgood priceMay 19 12:29
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schestowitz-TRotaMay 19 14:19
schestowitz-TRdraftMay 19 14:19
Techrights-secackMay 19 14:20
Techrights-secthe parentheses are not needed, just add "with" or other prepositionMay 19 14:20
Techrights-secs/50/50 servers/May 19 14:20
Techrights-secThe summary could introduce the call for decentralization which is also in theMay 19 14:20
Techrights-secconclusionMay 19 14:20
schestowitz-TRthanks, extending while video is processingMay 19 14:20
Techrights-sec"last summer (few active" -> "last summer with few active"May 19 14:26
schestowitz-TRthanks, I'll throw in a bunch of links explaning why decentraliseMay 19 14:27
Techrights-secnpMay 19 14:27
schestowitz-TRparentheses for leenode?May 19 14:34
Techrights-sec"last summer (few active" -> "last summer with few active"May 19 14:34
Techrights-secnpMay 19 14:34
schestowitz-TRthanks, I'll throw in a bunch of links explaning why decentraliseMay 19 14:34
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schestowitz-TRfinalisingMay 19 14:54
schestowitz-TRunique subjectMay 19 14:54
schestowitz-TRimprtantMay 19 14:54
schestowitz-TRinvoluntary researched for it in recent daysMay 19 14:54
Techrights-secackMay 19 14:54
schestowitz-TRnobody will cover these thingsMay 19 14:54
schestowitz-TRbetter than banal repetiotion of announcementsMay 19 14:54
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Phipps on Software Patents https://blog.opensource.org/osi-to-the-european-commission-make-space-for-patent-free-standards-too/ OSI was still mostly OK when he ran it...May 19 15:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.opensource.org | OSI to the European Commission: make space for patent-free standards too – Voices of Open SourceMay 19 15:41
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> With Microsoft employee inside Public Knowledge's Board it is now using Microsoft lobbyist talking points like "Big Tech" https://publicknowledge.org/new-public-knowledge-paper-outlines-how-regulation-and-antitrust-law-can-work-synergistically-to-rein-in-big-tech/May 19 15:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-publicknowledge.org | New Public Knowledge Paper Outlines How Regulation and Antitrust Law Can Work Synergistically To Rein In Big Tech - Public KnowledgeMay 19 15:55
Techrights-secackMay 19 16:03
Techrights-secit's a good statement against sw patentsMay 19 16:03
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Techrights-sectoo many people fall for FRAND meaning anything other than proprietaryMay 19 17:37
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schestowitz-TRslow newsMay 19 18:56
schestowitz-TRre-orging deskMay 19 18:56
schestowitz-TRtopic suggestionsd welcomeMay 19 18:56
schestowitz-TRon shift till 1amMay 19 18:56
schestowitz-TRackMay 19 19:09
schestowitz-TR"FRAND" is still a problem, Phipps refered to it by name but I didn't seeMay 19 19:09
Techrights-secackMay 19 19:09
Techrights-sec"FRAND" is still a problem, Phipps refered to it by name but I didn't seeMay 19 19:09
Techrights-sechim taking the term apart sufficiently though he does somewhat in the May 19 19:09
Techrights-secconclusionMay 19 19:09
schestowitz-TRhim taking the term apart sufficiently though he does somewhat in the May 19 19:09
schestowitz-TRconclusionMay 19 19:09
schestowitz-TR[19:14] <DaemonFC> When I quit Walmart the second time, they wanted me to sign a document containing a list of their alleged grievances against me.May 19 19:17
schestowitz-TRgood news:May 19 19:31
schestowitz-TRthere's good reason to believe TR is the reason Campinos had the temper tantrumMay 19 19:31
schestowitz-TRI have more on thisMay 19 19:31
schestowitz-TRMinnoye was also openly annoyedMay 19 19:31
schestowitz-TRbeing a thorn on their side is goodMay 19 19:31
schestowitz-TRand effectiveMay 19 19:31
Techrights-secackMay 19 19:32
Techrights-secvery good newsMay 19 19:32
schestowitz-TRthere are almost 7000 staffMay 19 19:34
schestowitz-TRand 38 member statesMay 19 19:34
schestowitz-TRhe does not know who talks to me      May 19 19:34
schestowitz-TRit could even be a managers disloyal to himMay 19 19:34
schestowitz-TRor a delegateMay 19 19:34
Techrights-secthat's also very good newsMay 19 19:35
Techrights-secnot disloyal to him, but instead loyal to the EPO missionMay 19 19:35
Techrights-secpart of the reason he has to leave is that he has corrupted the top levelsMay 19 19:35
schestowitz-TRlike BeranasMay 19 19:35
schestowitz-TRBattistelli sent him packingMay 19 19:35
schestowitz-TRafter he had warned about crowning BattistelliMay 19 19:35
Techrights-secyesMay 19 19:35
schestowitz-TRota in a momentMay 19 19:36
schestowitz-TRspeak later or tomorrowMay 19 19:36
Techrights-secackMay 19 19:36
Techrights-secafk in a while anywayMay 19 19:36
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