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schestowitz-TRtm now serves over https, root doc under /var/www/localhostJul 19 05:03
schestowitz-TRwith apache2Jul 19 05:03
schestowitz-TRself-signed, 10 yearsJul 19 05:04
schestowitz-TRyou can see news.tuxmachines.orgJul 19 05:04
Techrights-seccan we rename that to /var/www/tuxmachines.org ?  It would be more clearJul 19 06:58
Techrights-seconce several sessions are open concurrently.Jul 19 06:58
Techrights-secthe arrangement of the Apache2 configuration files is a bit strange thereJul 19 06:58
Techrights-secthe SSL vhost is defined twice, once in httpd,conf once in ssl.conf,Jul 19 06:58
Techrights-secthere should only be oneJul 19 06:58
schestowitz-TRbackJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRby all means shugffle them around as you see fitJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRI just did it quickly to get it runningJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRI suppose we can adduser gitJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRand then manage tuxmachines files separately thereJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRto get in as rootJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRyou can come via the hvJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRfrom the ssh route it is tuxmachinesJul 19 07:00
Techrights-secok thanksJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRI installlled nano todayJul 19 07:00
schestowitz-TRI've not made a list of steps so far, butJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRtuxmahcines creatddJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRssh added, enabled, made to restart on rebootJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRsame for apache2 and apache2-sslJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRgenerated pair basic config for apacheJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRadded nano, I think that's itJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRI've just written root history to /home/tuxmachinesJul 19 07:07
schestowitz-TRsome of these steps will be sim,ilar for techrights (later)Jul 19 07:07
Techrights-secackJul 19 07:07
Techrights-secI've shuffled it around alittle but the directory permissions are causing the Jul 19 07:59
Techrights-sectrouble.  The new vhost file is at :    /etc/apache2/conf.d/tuxmachines.org.confJul 19 07:59
Techrights-secThe logs are showing up fine, but access is still blocked. Jul 19 07:59
Techrights-secok the syntax was the matter.  I was remembering the old, deprecated syntaxJul 19 07:59
Techrights-secI'd like to rename the TLS certificate files to match the host name but willJul 19 07:59
Techrights-secput that off for a bitJul 19 07:59
schestowitz-TRthanks, just got back again Jul 19 08:06
schestowitz-TRtesting gz backups after the xfs_repairJul 19 08:06
Techrights-secnp Jul 19 08:06
Techrights-seclooking at setting up gitJul 19 08:06
Techrights-secI've made the directory / repository but now have to work out the login detailsJul 19 08:06
Techrights-sechave to take a pause thoughJul 19 08:06
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schestowitz-TRupdating the pi here, I reckon it's already imperfect in that state anywayJul 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRmaybe the update will fix the issues we had beforeJul 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRkaniini got a new ampere machine and wants to put new techrights on itJul 19 10:30
schestowitz-TRit's like 160 very fast 3.3ghz arm coresJul 19 10:30
Techrights-sec2greatJul 19 10:43
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schestowitz-TRare today's daily links on the way still?Jul 19 11:42
schestowitz-TRI have some nuclear material on Microsoft,, I think I'm meanwhile working on thjatJul 19 11:42
Techrights-sec2yes in progressJul 19 11:43
Techrights-sec2excellentJul 19 11:49
Techrights-sec2uploaded, now back to prodding GitJul 19 11:49
Techrights-sec2a brief description of the images is needed in the draftJul 19 11:49
schestowitz-TRdraftJul 19 11:50
schestowitz-TRfast and crudeJul 19 11:50
schestowitz-TRI think the docs are the important thing for nowJul 19 11:50
schestowitz-TRadding captions etc. and morew linksJul 19 11:50
Techrights-sec2thanksJul 19 11:55
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Techrights-sec2taking a rest from cargoculting a Git repository for nowJul 19 13:01
schestowitz-TRdo you find alpine OK to work with so far?Jul 19 13:01
Techrights-sec2alpine is great, thanks,Jul 19 13:10
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Techrights-sec2Git itself is quite confusing stillJul 19 13:13
schestowitz-TRI am far from git expert, I did use svn and cvs in he daysJul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRbut torvalds made git very simple for a few monthsJul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRthen others took overJul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRsame for linuxJul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRnow it seems common for companies like microsoft (github) to "take over"Jul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TR"step aside, we'll take it from here"Jul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRand add things for selfish business reasonsJul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRsame in gcc any time a company introduces a new productJul 19 13:14
Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 13:14
Techrights-sec2the simplicity is no longer present :/Jul 19 13:14
schestowitz-TRbuy our interfaces, egst subscriptions etc.Jul 19 13:16
schestowitz-TRit'll be simpler  Jul 19 13:16
schestowitz-TR(systemd, gitlab, github, etc.Jul 19 13:16
schestowitz-TRopen coreJul 19 13:16
schestowitz-TRopenshit [sic], ansible, podman...Jul 19 13:16
schestowitz-TRmr. openshit just became red hat ceoJul 19 13:16
Techrights-sec2yep, lock-in through excessive complexityJul 19 13:17
Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 13:17
schestowitz-TRgit is noit grassrootsJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRwatch all the release announcmentsJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRthey link to a microsoft siteJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRselling a PROPRIETARY EEE against gitJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft knew what it paid forJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRwhile 'drpizza' greased up the takeioverJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRalong with zemlinbJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRbtw, ryan noticed ars removed none of his 'articles' (microsoft planbt)Jul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRthey just changed author name to something egnericJul 19 13:19
schestowitz-TRthat's conde nastyJul 19 13:19
Techrights-sec2interestingJul 19 13:21
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft: we found some kid rapist to push our strategic puff pieces saying how we use git internally,Jul 19 13:21
schestowitz-TRhow much we lovfe it, how we're open source company...Jul 19 13:21
schestowitz-TRhe came from british LibraryJul 19 13:21
schestowitz-TRwhich ms used for ooxml advocacy in us (ve bsi)Jul 19 13:21
schestowitz-TRadam fuquar (iirc)Jul 19 13:21
Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 13:21
schestowitz-TRmit: we took microsoft and esptein/gates moneyJul 19 13:23
schestowitz-TRnow we need to delete some things to cover it uo, also cancel some peopleJul 19 13:23
schestowitz-TRarse: we took microsoft money and had employed microsoft pedosJul 19 13:23
schestowitz-TRit's ok, we'll chance the name on the articlesJul 19 13:23
schestowitz-TRHackaday starts publishing sponsored SPAM ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/print-your-own-drill-guide-without-a-linear-bearing/ | Source: HackaJul 19 14:02
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Techrights-sec2:(Jul 19 14:10
schestowitz-TRis this key-based or password?Jul 19 14:16
schestowitz-TRadding my keyJul 19 14:16
Techrights-sec2key-based. add a public key to ~git/.ssh/authorized_keysJul 19 14:16
Techrights-sec2git is hard to modify so I hope I have hammered out all the details Jul 19 14:16
Techrights-sec2otherwise, I'll just have to erase and start over yet againJul 19 14:16
Techrights-sec2I need to lock down the account too, right now it is still shell access + gitJul 19 14:16
Techrights-sec2it needs to be git-onlyJul 19 14:16
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Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 14:20
Techrights-sec2only hand-made files go in ./htdocs and the scripts need to find another homeJul 19 14:20
Techrights-sec2yes, about all of them Jul 19 14:20
schestowitz-TRhave you added any files yet?Jul 19 14:21
Techrights-sec2except the Apache2 config Jul 19 14:21
Techrights-sec2try cloning and you can see what is thereJul 19 14:21
schestowitzCloning into 'tuxmachines.org'...Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzremote: Enumerating objects: 44, done.Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzremote: Counting objects: 100% (44/44), done.Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzremote: Compressing objects: 100% (38/38), done.Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzremote: Total 44 (delta 8), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzReceiving objects: 100% (44/44), 26.64 KiB | 153.00 KiB/s, done.Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzResolving deltas: 100% (8/8), done.Jul 19 14:22
schestowitzwarning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.Jul 19 14:22
schestowitz-TRwhcih brnach name?Jul 19 14:24
schestowitz-TRahJul 19 14:24
Techrights-sec2hmm.  that's Git for you.Jul 19 14:25
Techrights-sec2tuxmachines.orgJul 19 14:25
Techrights-sec2Like I mentioned, I know nothing about Git and even less about establishedJul 19 14:25
Techrights-sec2best practices with GitJul 19 14:25
Techrights-sec2maybe the branch can be renamed, maybe notJul 19 14:26
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schestowitz-TRI think there is no HEAD yetJul 19 14:40
Techrights-sec2the branch needs to be renamed then :/Jul 19 14:40
Techrights-sec2$ git branch -m HEADJul 19 14:40
Techrights-sec2fatal: 'HEAD' is not a valid branch nameJul 19 14:40
schestowitz-TRexxxx-ce-lentJul 19 14:53
schestowitz-TRI think later I will reuse the TR code to expose this repo over gemini://Jul 19 14:53
schestowitz-TRas it would take little extra effortJul 19 14:53
Techrights-sec2I'm still years away from being either useful or comfortable with Git :(Jul 19 14:53
schestowitz-TRpeople who say git is simple are imho posersJul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TRi think I said it before Jul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TRgit is not n00b friendlyJul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TRthen again, people who push git [sic] as a disservice like githubJul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TRare evn worseJul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TRthey offer a prison as "nice place where you don't need to work and food is free"Jul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TRof coruse prisons are terrible placesJul 19 14:56
schestowitz-TR(maybe less so in norway)Jul 19 14:56
Techrights-sec2It's not anybody friendly.  The documentation is long but not clear.Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2So one has to hunt for articles with examples and /still/ do hours of trialJul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2and error and wipe-and-start-overJul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2There is a most despicable movement to try to conflate Git with GitHub and Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2many microsofters are part of that.Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2or so it looks like.Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2Well what I expected to take 1 or at most 2 hours with Git, has turned into theJul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2whole day and there are still a lot of loose ends to tidy up Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2by the way:Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2$ cp hooks/pre-commit.sample hooks/pre-commitJul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2inside the checked out repository will add some minimal checking   Jul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2.Jul 19 14:59
schestowitz-TRyou check for blacks in TRJul 19 14:59
schestowitz-TRa bit tedious sometimes but encourages better qualityJul 19 14:59
schestowitz-TRI pushed saome changes last nightJul 19 14:59
schestowitz-TRso that in irc when I add a link to youtube it gives both invidiousJul 19 14:59
schestowitz-TRand a link to gemini, where you can download the videosJul 19 14:59
schestowitz-TRthe thing that took a few minutes is appeasing the pre-commit checkJul 19 14:59
Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 15:00
Techrights-sec2s/blacks/blanks/Jul 19 15:00
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schestowitz-TRrianne getting truly pissed off at how hard it is to book a train ticketJul 19 15:22
schestowitz-TRtried librewoldJul 19 15:22
schestowitz-TRtried firefoxJul 19 15:22
schestowitz-TRtried paypalJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRcomplete disasterJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRCS graduateJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRimagine what old people go throughJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRand in some station they barerly have any staffJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRmaybe they have sokme "app" BS these daysJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRtech: it'll make life easier... for corporationsJul 19 15:23
schestowitz-TRrianne loses her temper and it' 36 degreesJul 19 15:31
schestowitz-TRthe site kleeps blaming "browser"Jul 19 15:31
schestowitz-TR"make sure.. browser.. something"Jul 19 15:31
schestowitz-TRwhen it's clear not the issueJul 19 15:31
schestowitz-TRjust walking there to buy a ticket with cash in hand would have been fasterJul 19 15:31
schestowitz-TRand would have produced less sweatJul 19 15:31
schestowitz-TRthis is why I tend to avoid "sites" and "apps" and all thius utter fing sh*Jul 19 15:31
Techrights-sec2The sites are not designed with efficiency or usability in mind, that is notJul 19 15:32
Techrights-sec2even taught in schools any more; they are all about "engagement" even in Jul 19 15:32
Techrights-sec2ostensibly commercial sites which have a financial incentive to provide anJul 19 15:32
Techrights-sec2easy means for people to solve their tasks and get on with their dayJul 19 15:32
schestowitz-TRI never tried self-checkouts, but each store has its own UI and it's not my job to learn theseJul 19 15:32
Techrights-sec2when the UI does not work, and sales plummet, they assholes blame the "market"Jul 19 15:37
Techrights-sec2or the "economy" rather than their bad design.  I've known people who in theJul 19 15:37
Techrights-sec2past had to change airlines becaue their prefered airline's web site was    Jul 19 15:37
Techrights-sec2unviable and could not sell tickets even after contacting the company.Jul 19 15:37
schestowitz-TRThat airline has suffered terribly financially yet none of the public  Jul 19 15:39
schestowitz-TRreports have ever blamed the web UI nor have they fixed the web UI so thatJul 19 15:39
schestowitz-TRit is actually possible to order tickets.  Jul 19 15:39
Techrights-sec2That airline has suffered terribly financially yet none of the public  Jul 19 15:39
Techrights-sec2reports have ever blamed the web UI nor have they fixed the web UI so thatJul 19 15:39
Techrights-sec2it is actually possible to order tickets.  Jul 19 15:39
schestowitz-TRshe ended up paying more to book via a third party siteJul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRabetter known siteJul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRso the train operators have sites that do not workJul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRand do not tell you upfront Jul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRthey enbd up being reliant on those congglemerates that charge extra feesJul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRain't that something?Jul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRand it took almost an hour to book Jul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TR(not for me, for her, I plan to stay home those 3 days)Jul 19 15:52
schestowitz-TRbus (coach) not an option due to lack of distancing (covid-19)Jul 19 15:52
Techrights-sec2I've made a backup of the Git repository now, and will take a break from itJul 19 15:56
schestowitz-TRexcellent jobJul 19 15:59
schestowitz-TRso now we have two reposJul 19 15:59
schestowitz-TRon my machine one is called Git-TMJul 19 15:59
schestowitz-TRgoing to the park nowJul 19 15:59
schestowitz-TRit's too humid here at this timeJul 19 15:59
schestowitz-TRwe'll feed birds and burn energyJul 19 15:59
Techrights-sec2noJul 19 15:59
Techrights-sec2^npJul 19 15:59
schestowitz-TRI struggle tro record vieos, but tomorrow it'll be cool againJul 19 15:59
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schestowitz-TRbackJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TReven went past the graveyard, read some stonesJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRbut mostly pas the stadium and water sourcesJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRfor the sake of walk and sunJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRI'll try to clean rss feeds now, it has cooled down a lotJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRcloudy tooJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRwe got pieapple for like 90% off (full pineapple)Jul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRwe have excess food at the momentJul 19 17:48
schestowitz-TRcooking it to elongate lifetimeJul 19 17:48
Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 17:49
Techrights-sec2niceJul 19 17:49
schestowitz-TRwe still have one very large cake with frosting, very good cake, but it's not a priority to finishJul 19 17:50
schestowitz-TRfood shortages have pushed up price, availabnility down, sometimes prices almost doubleJul 19 17:51
schestowitz-TRso hoarding sales is even more strategic nowJul 19 17:51
schestowitz-TRblame the russian covid droughtJul 19 17:53
schestowitz-TRone needs a bit of creativity for the art of rebellion against injustices and I think RMS Jul 19 18:00
schestowitz-TRdid that to the rntal/estate industry in a way I double not, Jul 19 18:00
schestowitz-TRthough I did try to prolong student accommodation and checked several times over if Jul 19 18:00
schestowitz-TRany loopholes existedJul 19 18:00
schestowitz-TRthese places include power and water in the price, plus no council tax (students)Jul 19 18:00
schestowitz-TRso cost of living can be very lowJul 19 18:00
Techrights-sec2With software much of that can be seen with the rise of what is effectivelyJul 19 18:09
Techrights-sec2digital sharecropping.  Instead of using software to spread freedom,    Jul 19 18:09
Techrights-sec2enlightenment, and self-empowerment, it is being used to bring outdated Jul 19 18:09
Techrights-sec2models and ways of thinking into the digital era so that there is effectivelyJul 19 18:09
Techrights-sec2a serfdom once again.Jul 19 18:09
Techrights-sec2That's the opposite direction of what is good for society, the opposite of Jul 19 18:09
Techrights-sec2what RMS had worked so hard for up until he was cancelled.Jul 19 18:09
schestowitz-TRlow cost of living is a liberating factorJul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRbut that requires buying in a particular fashion, if at allJul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRI keep hearing about spouses (usually wives) who spend to the full capacity of the incomeJul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRif not beyoind (credit card)Jul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRnothing is ever enoughJul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRand I think it's by advertising and peer pressureJul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRFB mixes those two things/factorsJul 19 18:12
Techrights-sec2or just ripping off so much unearned money that the cost of things is Jul 19 18:12
Techrights-sec2relatively speaking, trivialJul 19 18:12
Techrights-sec2ackJul 19 18:12
schestowitz-TRbanksters make the most money from people whose balance is minus somethingJul 19 18:14
schestowitz-TRso this self-harming behaviour (risk,stress) is acteively encouraged Jul 19 18:15
schestowitz-TRand made to be seen as normalJul 19 18:15
schestowitz-TRthey tell people het their credit reports are better if they have a credit card and are Jul 19 18:15
schestowitz-TRin debt of some kindJul 19 18:15
schestowitz-TRthey don't like savers who do not "invest"Jul 19 18:15
Techrights-sec2s/make/take/Jul 19 18:15
schestowitz-TRmy mom lost a lot of her savings during covid yearsJul 19 18:16
schestowitz-TRshe "invested" Jul 19 18:16
schestowitz-TRlike "everyone told her"Jul 19 18:16
Techrights-sec2by redefining gambling and speculation to mean "invest"Jul 19 18:16
Techrights-sec2:(Jul 19 18:16
schestowitz-TRgrayson: don't get ill. if you get ill, die quicklyJul 19 18:19
schestowitz-TRme: don't stop working. if you retire, die quicklyJul 19 18:19
schestowitz-TRdon't save money. if you do, you are breaking the rules and we're reverse -mortgage your life till "mort"Jul 19 18:19
schestowitz-TRrepairing the bank's home at one's own expense before handing it over to the bankJul 19 18:22
schestowitz-TRto resell to the next "maintainer"Jul 19 18:22
schestowitz-TRa) fake capital growth relies on mssivelyt inflation the worth of something (c/s EPO bubble)Jul 19 18:26
schestowitz-TRe.g. Appele at 3,000,000 million, riding the money of "inbvestors"Jul 19 18:27
schestowitz-TRb) if you sell a home at x10 the price of the material that build it and buy anotherJul 19 18:27
schestowitz-TRyou would still need to payx10 more than its real valueJul 19 18:27
schestowitz-TRso it's not even great as an investment if yoiu actuall live in itJul 19 18:27
schestowitz-TRit favours saudis and chinese tycoons who buy homes by the blocksJul 19 18:27
schestowitz-TRpolaying Monopoly ((R)Jul 19 18:27
Techrights-sec2Apple is a finance company with a minor sideline in hardware and an abandonedJul 19 18:27
Techrights-sec2past in designJul 19 18:27
Techrights-sec2Heck, I expect that M$ probably makes more from financialization than any ofJul 19 18:27
Techrights-sec2its "goods" or services combinedJul 19 18:27
schestowitz-TRthomas lord has diedJul 19 19:10
schestowitz-TRaged 56Jul 19 19:10
schestowitz-TRTom Lord RIP  Tux Machines  http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167417Jul 19 19:10
Techrights-sec2:(Jul 19 19:11
Techrights-sec2I read his writing rather often and liked the technical topics he coverredJul 19 19:11
Techrights-sec2What happened to him?Jul 19 19:11
Techrights-sec2any obituary to point to?Jul 19 19:11
Techrights-sec2        Jul 19 19:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Tom Lord RIP | Tux MachinesJul 19 19:11
Techrights-sec2ack     Jul 19 19:16
Techrights-sec2https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837Jul 19 19:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-berkeleydailyplanet.com | Thomas Lord 1966-2022. Category: Obituaries from The Berkeley Daily PlanetJul 19 19:18
Techrights-sec2The Andrew project was immensely important and provided capabilities that  Jul 19 19:24
Techrights-sec2universities (and the private sector) no longer haveJul 19 19:24
schestowitz-TRthe article says unexpected, so I assume medical issueJul 19 19:25
schestowitz-TRwhether a known one or not, it says unexpectedJul 19 19:25
Techrights-sec2Capabilities with file sharing have gone backwards and are now very far behindJul 19 20:01
Techrights-sec2what the Andrew project had once had with the resulting global AFS networkJul 19 20:01
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schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/TheReachOut/status/1549364527212396544#mJul 19 21:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The-Unreachables (@TheReachOut): "Charity Navigator Does Not Recommend Giving Money to the Open Source Initiative (OSI) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/19/osi-in-charity-navigator/"|nitter.itJul 19 21:40
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