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schestowitz> Perl Weekly Challenge and the Raku site should be included.  ThoughNov 19 08:08
schestowitz> there will be too many PWC links for a day or two until our systemNov 19 08:08
schestowitz> catches up.Nov 19 08:08
schestowitzMore than enough to do today's 4 morning articles, which can take lots of time each.Nov 19 08:08
schestowitz> Hi Dr. Schestowitz,Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> I just wanted to follow up in case you missed my email the other day.Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Please see below -Nov 19 08:24
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schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     Hi Dr. Schestowitz,Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     Bill here from Pixel Privacy.Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     I noticed you shared EFF’s Panopticlick tool here -Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     http://techrights.org/2011/06/04/ - and thought I’d share somethingNov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     your visitors might find useful.Nov 19 08:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 2011 June 04 | TechrightsNov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     I created a guide to browser fingerprintingNov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     (https://pixelprivacy.com/resources/browser-fingerprinting/) whichNov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     provides more context about why you’d want to use a tool likeNov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     Panopticlick (and in fact I recommend the tool in the guide).Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pixelprivacy.com | Browser Fingerprinting: What Is It and What Should You Do About It?Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     Perhaps you could link to my guide alongside the EFF?Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     Thank you in advance.Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     -BillNov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     PS. If you’re not interested just let me know and you won’t hearNov 19 08:24
schestowitz>     from me again.Nov 19 08:24
schestowitz> Nov 19 08:24
schestowitzhttps://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2019/11/17/when-i-asked-him-how-best-to-protect-my-family-in-the-future-he-t/#comment-15466Nov 19 12:48
schestowitz"The best solution is to own some weapons and be trained in how to use them. Switzerland is a good example. Yes, there is some violence there but nothing like is happening in Sweden, France, etc. People have to speak the truth to power. “We do not want these Muslims here. Send them back to their Godforsaken countries.”"Nov 19 12:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | “When I asked him how best to protect my family in the future, he t… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Nov 19 12:48
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Muumoot: @schestowitz Do I have to?Nov 19 14:09
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@21WIRE: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Is that Luke Harding?Nov 19 14:09
acer-boxyes, with the people who helped frame Assange and those who guarded him at the EmbassyNov 19 14:10
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/spain_1957/status/1196781372045701126Nov 19 14:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@spain_1957: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA On the contrary Sweden moved over, they will now hand him over to the USA ...Nov 19 14:10
acer-boxThis was the 'final destination' all alongNov 19 14:10
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RedOwlDr: @schestowitz @CIA Strange timing, the silencing of @AssangeMrs.Nov 19 14:11
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Wikisteff: Fighting words: "…every single time the tech industry comes up with a new service that helps make musicians more mo… https://t.co/oWs7r3yv3wNov 19 14:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Wikisteff: Fighting words: "…every single time the tech industry comes up with a new service that helps make musicians more mo… https://t.co/oWs7r3yv3wNov 19 14:12
acer-box"Fighting words: "…every single time the tech industry comes up with a new service that helps make musicians more money, the industry comes along and whines… it's not getting 100% of the value creation, then pushes for laws to demand as such, even as it kills the new services.""Nov 19 14:12
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acer-boxI remember reading a paper that suggested that music royalties don’t generate any added revenue they just focus it, blocking trillion dollar music related industries from starting up.Nov 19 14:12
acer-boxSteffen ChristensenNov 19 14:12
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acer-boxI would love to see this paper!Nov 19 14:12
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acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/Seegras/status/1196751999049617408Nov 19 14:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Seegras: @jhamby @schestowitz These patents had nothing in common to todays but the name. They weren't even about invention,… https://t.co/7C4M73K3bbNov 19 14:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Seegras: @jhamby @schestowitz These patents had nothing in common to todays but the name. They weren't even about invention,… https://t.co/7C4M73K3bbNov 19 14:13
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acer-boxThese patents had nothing in common to todays but the name. They weren't even about invention, not even on paper, but about monopolies only. Nov 19 14:13
acer-boxAnd the modern ones have been a disgrace since their inception https://seegras.discordia.ch/Blog/voices-against-the-patent-system-the-economist-1851/… #PatentsNov 19 14:13
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://seegras.discordia.ch/Blog/voices-against-the-patent-system-the-economist-1851/… )Nov 19 14:13
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Cleverhardy99: @schestowitz Well, the only good thing about this is we don't get to hear the ukelele and whistles...Nov 19 14:14
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Cleverhardy99: Well, the only good thing about this is we don't get to hear the ukelele and whistles... https://t.co/qT56qDUQIDNov 19 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #copyright ☞ 'Royalty-Free' Music Supplied By #YouTube Results in Mass Video Demonetization https://t.co/Q65qU57PsCNov 19 14:14
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Twice_Painted: Why is YouTube a boomer https://t.co/05QSckG4w3Nov 19 14:14
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Cynthia14362616: @schestowitz @FixIt_EU SAVE Family-Friendly Content on YouTube https://t.co/AeN8UplHqiNov 19 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.change.org | Petition · SAVE Family-Friendly Content on YouTube · Change.orgNov 19 14:14
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PG__Animation: Youtube is adamant to kill their platform, aren't they? https://t.co/j3VUZfis1aNov 19 14:15
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/soi6robert/status/1196676258504986624Nov 19 14:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@soi6robert: @schestowitz Pretty much.Nov 19 14:15
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/EuroPleasureMac/status/1196661698289131520Nov 19 14:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EuroPleasureMac: @schestowitz People who commute from Manhattan to Stamford lose 3 hours of their life each working day. That should be a crime.Nov 19 14:16
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/CaptainKurtis/status/1196657130356408321Nov 19 14:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaptainKurtis: @schestowitz OSI's definition of open source and FSF's definition of free software seems to be the same thing tho.Nov 19 14:16
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1196654748184662016Nov 19 14:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: #specialinterests2019 https://t.co/KdyACsfvo3Nov 19 14:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #uk#justice #assange #wikileaks https://t.co/slPV0pQ1HPNov 19 14:16
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acer-boxSpecial Purpose Vehicle Financial Network ExpertNov 19 14:19
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acer-boxlol sorry threads i love to tug @Nov 19 14:19
acer-boxSpecial Purpose Vehicle Financial Network ExpertNov 19 14:19
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acer-boxassigning rights to companies may be a huge mistake also, since unlike humans they can 'live' as paperwork eternally. corporate personhood and all thatNov 19 14:20
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:20
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acer-boxIf you want to call "IP" something else besides "property", you need to come up with a better name for "rights" that can be assigned to companies and individuals.Nov 19 14:20
acer-boxMaybe it is worth the effort, so people don't think that "IP" is something that exists apart from government force.Nov 19 14:20
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:20
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acer-boxAnd even then, I don't know if we should abolish patents. Maybe we should abolish software patents and medical patents. Or they should only be for 3 to 5 years instead of closer to 20. Patents are definitely much too long and there's no requirement that they be licensed fairly.Nov 19 14:20
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:20
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acer-boxThen when you start talking about Nintendo games and the original MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows, or the walled garden of Apple products and their proprietary OS's, do those companies get to keep control over their platforms and code forever as well?Nov 19 14:20
acer-boxI think patents are the worst.Nov 19 14:20
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:20
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acer-boxIf Coca-Cola gets to keep their trademark & "trade dress" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress) of the Coke bottle for another 500 years, it wouldn't really stifle innovation or the arts. But when Disney gets to own Mickey Mouse & a slew of other characters forever, it doesn't seem as fair.Nov 19 14:21
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:21
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Trade dress - WikipediaNov 19 14:21
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acer-boxYou really do have to think about each kind of "IP" separately. If we didn't have enforceable trademark protection, counterfeiting would be a bigger problem than it is. But when copyrights and patents last too long, they stifle innovation and create monopolists with undue powers.Nov 19 14:21
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:21
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acer-boxThe reason I disagree with Nov 19 14:21
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acer-box when he says IP doesn't exist is that it's a giant umbrella for legal rights.Nov 19 14:21
acer-boxI agree with many of his criticisms of how big companies like Microsoft and IBM seek maximal corporate ownership of all forms of IP to monopolize & profit from.Nov 19 14:21
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acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/HongPong/status/1196566733294886912Nov 19 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HongPong: @jhamby @Jeffrey60074 @schestowitz lol sorry threads i love to tug @Nov 19 14:21
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/SamStakeholder/status/1196507131752701952Nov 19 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SamStakeholder: @schestowitz https://t.co/YoReJ3PmR4Nov 19 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ManicBeancount: @etzpcm @ClimateAudit I believe that #Climategate is more than political spin corrupting science. Kevin Trenberth t… https://t.co/ekB4vqr3HmNov 19 14:21
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/SamStakeholder/status/1196506393278328832Nov 19 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SamStakeholder: @schestowitz Science is science as determined by the scientific method... Science by definition cannot be weaker or… https://t.co/Gn5MiGlezwNov 19 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SamStakeholder: @schestowitz Science is science as determined by the scientific method... Science by definition cannot be weaker or… https://t.co/Gn5MiGlezwNov 19 14:21
acer-box"Nov 19 14:21
acer-boxScience is science as determined by the scientific method... Science by definition cannot be weaker or strongerNov 19 14:21
acer-boxHowever, the AGW propaganda is stronger than ever.... which is what you probably were thinking when you referred to science....Nov 19 14:21
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acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/laurielcalhoun/status/1196490007894282240Nov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@laurielcalhoun: @schestowitz Agreed: race to the bottom. Circling the drain. As #Assange goes, so goes Western civilization.Nov 19 14:22
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/1196482279146688514Nov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrIvanJohnson: @schestowitz I'm shocked, SHOCKED to learn that someone is accusing #BorisJohnson of betrayal and deceit! (Though… https://t.co/Uchgk3Ob0pNov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrIvanJohnson: @schestowitz I'm shocked, SHOCKED to learn that someone is accusing #BorisJohnson of betrayal and deceit! (Though… https://t.co/Uchgk3Ob0pNov 19 14:22
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acer-box I'm shocked, SHOCKED to learn that someone is accusing #BorisJohnson of betrayal and deceit! (Though #JenniferArcuri has to queue up behind millions of others.)Nov 19 14:22
acer-boxhttps://independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-relationship-secrets-itv-a9206076.htmlNov 19 14:22
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acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196480872129581056Nov 19 14:22
acer-box"He loves to claim this based on a 20-year-old joke by a Microsoft employee to name a crypto key "NSAKEY". The secret to Microsoft is their code is buggy enough to have *unintentional* backdoors galore. Much cheaper than sneaking in NSA spies to put them in on purpose. "Nov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Jennifer Arcuri turns on Boris Johnson and warns she has been ‘keeping his secrets’ | The IndependentNov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: He loves to claim this based on a 20-year-old joke by a Microsoft employee to name a crypto key "NSAKEY". The secre… https://t.co/L7dsI5CEPSNov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: He loves to claim this based on a 20-year-old joke by a Microsoft employee to name a crypto key "NSAKEY". The secre… https://t.co/L7dsI5CEPSNov 19 14:22
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/doombadroid/status/1196477657405259776Nov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@doombadroid: @schestowitz Oh god dont remind me. Most of the county election centres send information to the ballot printers via… https://t.co/9fN4R6eCE6Nov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@doombadroid: @schestowitz Oh god dont remind me. Most of the county election centres send information to the ballot printers via… https://t.co/9fN4R6eCE6Nov 19 14:22
acer-box"Oh god dont remind me. Most of the county election centres send information to the ballot printers via unsecured FTP. I devised a much more secure system that simplified down to "Click this shortcut then drag and drop" and still couldnt get the county clerks to use it"Nov 19 14:22
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196472890826350594Nov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Interesting: Google wants Chromebook makers to use an LGPL-licensed firmware updating tool (fwupd) instead of propr… https://t.co/6SCE0MUsmfNov 19 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Interesting: Google wants Chromebook makers to use an LGPL-licensed firmware updating tool (fwupd) instead of propr… https://t.co/6SCE0MUsmfNov 19 14:22
acer-box"Interesting: Google wants Chromebook makers to use an LGPL-licensed firmware updating tool (fwupd) instead of proprietary firmware update tools."Nov 19 14:22
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/NellyTells/status/1196795841618550785Nov 19 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NellyTells: @OedipusSphynx @21WIRE @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA One on the far right, tallest.Nov 19 14:23
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/Hanissee/status/1196794778333204480Nov 19 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Hanissee: @21WIRE @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA yes with Fernando Villavicenzio and Dan CollynsNov 19 14:23
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/OedipusSphynx/status/1196794201364676608Nov 19 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OedipusSphynx: @21WIRE @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Which one is Harding?Nov 19 14:23
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/spain_1957/status/1196794200060239872Nov 19 14:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@spain_1957: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Exactly.. and since 2020 Elections are on hand they need a distraction pronto. Bet the… https://t.co/wVxuU778psNov 19 14:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@spain_1957: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Exactly.. and since 2020 Elections are on hand they need a distraction pronto. Bet the… https://t.co/wVxuU778psNov 19 14:24
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acer-boxExactly.. and since 2020Nov 19 14:24
acer-boxElections are on hand they need a distraction pronto. Bet they will have Assange extradited in time for the circus..Nov 19 14:24
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OedipusSphynx: @NellyTells @21WIRE @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Thanks, Nelly.Nov 19 14:24
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196472328420413440Nov 19 14:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz What else should they do to defray the cost of development? You're always complaining but never sugges… https://t.co/X9r5AYTyabNov 19 14:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz What else should they do to defray the cost of development? You're always complaining but never sugges… https://t.co/X9r5AYTyabNov 19 14:26
acer-box"What else shouWhat else should they do to defray the cost of development? You're always complaining but never suggesting any workable solutions. It gets tiresome."ld they do to defray the cost of development? You're always complaining but never suggesting any workable solutions. It gets tiresome.Nov 19 14:26
acer-box"|What else should they do to defray the cost of development? You're always complaining but never suggesting any workable solutions. It gets tiresome."Nov 19 14:26
acer-boxspying for money is never morally acceptable Nov 19 14:26
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196468827254480897Nov 19 14:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Yes, even X Windows can handle multiple monitors these days. 🙂 https://t.co/NP604gCgLNNov 19 14:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Russell Coker: 4K Monitors https://t.co/diFm9cwtz0 it's far cheaper to get multiple smaller screens and join themNov 19 14:27
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196456488518029317Nov 19 14:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Of course patents are a type of property, from a legal perspective. What else would they be? If you don't think the… https://t.co/KybC3S0idgNov 19 14:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Of course patents are a type of property, from a legal perspective. What else would they be? If you don't think the… https://t.co/KybC3S0idgNov 19 14:28
acer-box"Of course patents are a type of property, from a legal perspective. What else would they be? If you don't think they should be granted because they reduce innovation or are unfair, make that case. Don't play silly word games that don't show anything but your own misunderstanding."Nov 19 14:28
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acer-boxThe statement is less an observation and more a belief of the way things should be. A reminder of where he stands on the issue. And I'm sure he has made the case for it, probably several times, on the website he links to in the tweetNov 19 14:29
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:29
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acer-boxSure, I'm just saying that I disagree with pretending that words don't have their actual meanings because he doesn't like the meanings that they currently have. I think it's a weak argument.Nov 19 14:29
acer-boxJeffreyNov 19 14:29
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acer-boxAgreed. If you can steal it, it is property.Nov 19 14:29
acer-boxJake HambyNov 19 14:29
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acer-box21hNov 19 14:29
acer-boxRight. I think if you want to make a serious case that intellectual property *shouldn't* exist, then make that case, and explain how the world would be better if anyone can copy anyone else's work. I get that he's trying to question what "IP" should mean. But his denial is broad.Nov 19 14:29
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Maybe you've never worked for one that did…Nov 19 14:29
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acer-boxHonestly, I think the biggest problem with patents in tech is not their existence but that the duration is too long. If they were only granted for 4 or 5 years, I'd have much less of a problem with their chilling effects on innovation.Nov 19 14:30
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acer-boxPatent law predates the United States by several centuries. They were granting patents in Venice in 1450. Just because you despise patents doesn't mean they're useless or only for monopolies. The purpose is to grant a temporary monopoly on inventions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_patent_law…Nov 19 14:30
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acer-boxMaybe you've never worked for one that did…Nov 19 14:30
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acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/1196351646470553601Nov 19 14:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pceebee23: @schestowitz oh dear running a dictatorship is not as easy as it was ..ask the Chinese about HKNov 19 14:32
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/gillesMioni/status/1196798186595192832Nov 19 14:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gillesMioni: #LibreOffice Libreoffice 6.4 entre en version bêta avec les dialogues #GTK natif, le générateur de code #QR et plus… https://t.co/ChdMTnhc0bNov 19 14:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gillesMioni: #LibreOffice Libreoffice 6.4 entre en version bêta avec les dialogues #GTK natif, le générateur de code #QR et plus… https://t.co/ChdMTnhc0bNov 19 14:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CoolAqua1/status/1196828262992957440Nov 19 16:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CoolAqua1: @BillGates Bill Gates and his wife are great humanitarian philanthropists. But Bill Gates is also an impediment to… https://t.co/4RtCWtNYNgNov 19 16:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CoolAqua1: @BillGates Bill Gates and his wife are great humanitarian philanthropists. But Bill Gates is also an impediment to… https://t.co/4RtCWtNYNgNov 19 16:46
schestowitz"Nov 19 16:46
schestowitzBill Gates and his wife are great humanitarian philanthropists.  But Bill Gates is also an impediment to solving Climate Change as he supports Republicans who block any legislative action, and Trump who withdrew from the #ParisAgreement Nov 19 16:46
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/12/22/microsoft-gates-abramoff-connection/Nov 19 16:46
schestowitz"Nov 19 16:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Noted: The Microsoft-Abramoff Connection | TechrightsNov 19 16:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1196825021576028160Nov 19 16:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Jean-Luc Breton #humor #Memes #Europe #breton https://t.co/CjVRpNWHFnNov 19 16:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Jean-Luc Breton | TechrightsNov 19 16:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1196824495320915971Nov 19 16:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Understanding Thierry Breton: Insider-Trading Scandal at EADS #Finance #thierrybreton #France #EADS #politics… https://t.co/vvPfZACd7dNov 19 16:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Understanding Thierry Breton: Insider-Trading Scandal at EADS #Finance #thierrybreton #France #EADS #politics… https://t.co/vvPfZACd7dNov 19 16:48
schestowitz""Nov 19 16:48
schestowitz"Understanding Thierry Breton: Insider-Trading Scandal at EADS #Finance #thierrybreton #France #EADS #politics #Politique #Europe #SCANDAL"Nov 19 16:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1196823811020271616Nov 19 16:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Understanding Thierry Breton: “Rhodiagate” and the Vivendi Universal Affair #finances #fraud #thierrybreton… https://t.co/6G77AwGleHNov 19 16:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Understanding Thierry Breton: “Rhodiagate” and the Vivendi Universal Affair #finances #fraud #thierrybreton… https://t.co/6G77AwGleHNov 19 16:49
schestowitz"Understanding Thierry Breton: “Rhodiagate” and the Vivendi Universal Affair #finances #fraud #thierrybreton #politics #France #Europe @canardenchaine"Nov 19 16:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/VakraDyausAhira/status/1196840355305361408Nov 19 17:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VakraDyausAhira: "Summary: Microsoft’s takeover or abduction of its opposition’s voice isn’t an act of love but an act of occupation… https://t.co/sClnSGgzBgNov 19 17:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VakraDyausAhira: "Summary: Microsoft’s takeover or abduction of its opposition’s voice isn’t an act of love but an act of occupation… https://t.co/sClnSGgzBgNov 19 17:21
schestowitz"Nov 19 17:21
schestowitzMoreNov 19 17:21
schestowitz "Summary: Microsoft’s takeover or abduction of its opposition’s voice isn’t an act of love but an act of occupation, a hostile colonisation that enables digital pillage and plunder" ~ http://techrights.org/2019/11/16/buying-gnu-linux-piecewise/ … #FOSS #LinuxNov 19 17:21
schestowitz"Nov 19 17:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Doesn’t Love Linux, It Just Buys Linux | TechrightsNov 19 17:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/1196837488175845379Nov 19 17:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Wikinaut: https://t.co/5LBVXvRzjjNov 19 17:21
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schestowitz> like...no matter what the Tribunal or the EPO does.]Nov 19 17:48
schestowitzI apologise deeply if it somehow came across as me insinuating suicidal tendencies; you already clarified several times that this is false and any remarks I make to that effect actually allude to the ongoing series (18 parts) about Breton and what he had done in France Telecom before the same happened in EPO.Nov 19 17:48
schestowitzConfidential are all the notes you sent me; I don't intend to publish anything without first consulting, maybe not to the level of tiny details. Again, I apologise of my text can be misinterpreted as something I did not intend to say.Nov 19 17:48
schestowitzI have all sorts of stories about Mrs. Bergot; I cannot publish these as it might reveal who told them. I just pile up the facts I have and maybe one day an opportunity will come to show some of these, depending on context (maybe she will have already left the Office).Nov 19 17:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16546824#d95c15b0eced0137c6302a0000053625Nov 19 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Sweden Pushes On With #Assange ‘Investigation,’ Won’t Address #UN #Torture Rapporteur’s Concerns https://shadowproof.com/2019/11/18/sweden-pushes-on-with-assange-investigation-wont-address-un-torture-rapporteurs-concerns/ Nov 19 17:49
schestowitz"Nov 19 17:49
schestowitzSweden’s judicial system is a CIA asset.Nov 19 17:49
schestowitzNov 19 17:49
schestowitzTrocatintas - about 6 hours ago Nov 19 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> shadowproof.com | Sweden Ignores UN Torture Rapporteur's Concerns With Assange InvestigationNov 19 17:50
schestowitzThis is probably why the empire allows Sweden to have it’s social-democrat policies. Every now and then it’s called upon to provide some servicing.Nov 19 17:50
schestowitz"Nov 19 17:50
schestowitzIt certainly does not look good for SwedenNov 19 17:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9p70IGNVLYLfUfRPvMNov 19 17:51
schestowitz" somehow ZFS always feels outdated to me compared to btrfs. But using SWAP also feels very outdated to me. Can't remember the last time I setup an system with an SWAP"Nov 19 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 19 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9p70QvohAAAsKVIDMONov 19 17:51
schestowitz"Nov 19 17:51
schestowitzhttps://www.coindesk.com/chinese-armys-blockchain-provider-approved-for-new-hyperledger-certification-programNov 19 17:51
schestowitz#LinuxFoundation #chinese #military #hyperledgerNov 19 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 19 17:51
schestowitz"Nov 19 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.coindesk.com | Chinese Army's Blockchain Provider Approved for New Hyperledger Certification Program - CoinDeskNov 19 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9p77VTaIFyTbtbfdpYNov 19 17:51
schestowitz"@schestowitz @federationbot is there any evidence that Microsoft/Github is doing malicious things with projects being hosted on GitHub? Something along the lines mentioned done by SourceForge."Nov 19 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 19 17:51
schestowitzThey censor developers and projects. They also apply political sanctions against developers (for mere nationality).Nov 19 17:52
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9p7N3tqibqACVtE3v6Nov 19 17:52
schestowitz"Please tag us for that one, when it is available."Nov 19 17:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 19 17:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/11/19/insider-trading-scandal-at-eads/Nov 19 17:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Insider-Trading Scandal at EADS | TechrightsNov 19 17:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196841980661121024Nov 19 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @Seegras @schestowitz And even for physical inventions, there are so many bad patents that shouldn't have been gran… https://t.co/mMAD55AXxANov 19 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @Seegras @schestowitz And even for physical inventions, there are so many bad patents that shouldn't have been gran… https://t.co/mMAD55AXxANov 19 18:00
schestowitz"And even for physical inventions, there are so many bad patents that shouldn't have been granted. But the flip side is that now, anything you invent will be immediately counterfeited by Chinese factories and sold on Amazon at cheaper prices than your original. Happens daily now."Nov 19 18:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196841565102071808Nov 19 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @Seegras @schestowitz Thanks for the link to a good historical criticism. Honestly, I can't defend software patents… https://t.co/cvklxUzvPhNov 19 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @Seegras @schestowitz Thanks for the link to a good historical criticism. Honestly, I can't defend software patents… https://t.co/cvklxUzvPhNov 19 18:01
schestowitz"Thanks for the link to a good historical criticism. Honestly, I can't defend software patents, having seen the damage they cause and the lack of any meaningful benefit that they bring. Amazon's One Click patent, the GIF, MP3, and other codec patents, Microsoft Android patents."Nov 19 18:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196840716774727680Nov 19 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I appreciate your strong stance on the issue. I just hope it's the case that Mozilla is taking Google'… https://t.co/MK6tmPV47DNov 19 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I appreciate your strong stance on the issue. I just hope it's the case that Mozilla is taking Google'… https://t.co/MK6tmPV47DNov 19 18:01
schestowitz"I appreciate your strong stance on the issue. I just hope it's the case that Mozilla is taking Google's money to help build a browser that's slightly more hostile to snooping than Chrome is."Nov 19 18:01
schestowitzWhen Google announced Chrome Mozilla knew it would have to rethink the biz modelNov 19 18:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/standingstones/status/1196839416850862080Nov 19 18:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@standingstones: @schestowitz @wikileaks It?Nov 19 18:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/whvholst/status/1196833973273550850Nov 19 18:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@whvholst: @schestowitz Of effectiveness?Nov 19 18:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KevPalmer3/status/1196826330165235712Nov 19 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KevPalmer3: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Our pathetic Australian government should be trying to help get Julian homeNov 19 18:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1196817935538495488Nov 19 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz There was no Microsoft person at that event as far as I can tell -- but various other large companies.Nov 19 18:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/1196852968970211329Nov 19 19:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sjvn: @schestowitz <Shrug> Any single story of mine tends to get immediately ripped off about half-a-dozen times within t… https://t.co/9ni9huR80INov 19 19:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sjvn: @schestowitz <Shrug> Any single story of mine tends to get immediately ripped off about half-a-dozen times within t… https://t.co/9ni9huR80INov 19 19:04
schestowitz"Nov 19 19:04
schestowitz<Shrug> Any single story of mine tends to get immediately ripped off about half-a-dozen times within the first day it's up. Few sites actually use DRM. What is different lately, Google News has been picking these garbage stories up.Nov 19 19:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1196857103513608192Nov 19 19:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz What was their business model before? This is the question I have about Free software. Can it survive… https://t.co/7N02sQSbG6Nov 19 19:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz What was their business model before? This is the question I have about Free software. Can it survive… https://t.co/7N02sQSbG6Nov 19 19:05
schestowitz\"Nov 19 19:05
schestowitzWhat was their business model before? This is the question I have about Free software. Can it survive purely off of user donations? Should governments pitch in? Corporations always bring their own agendas.Nov 19 19:05
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schestowitz"Nov 19 19:05
schestowitzI published an article about this subject this morningNov 19 19:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mt_serrano/status/1196857900817367042Nov 19 19:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mt_serrano: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Lenin Moreno es una basofia.Nov 19 19:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kimberl96307348/status/1196859497886695424Nov 19 19:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Kimberl96307348: @Wikileaks https://t.co/w8r4KZDSjPNov 19 19:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Swedish #police will need to release its correspondence with the #FBI ; this can help thwart the extradi… https://t.co/n6bSSo55GTNov 19 19:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GSachs_Frauds/status/1196861475232464896Nov 19 19:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GSachs_Frauds: @schestowitz @wikileaks @CIA Absolutely.Nov 19 19:06
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