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| schestowitz-TR | gm | May 20 07:27 |
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| schestowitz-TR | got camelcase | May 20 07:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, seems like sam's feed at itwire is no longer filled with the obligatory webspam ('articles') and | May 20 07:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | is just his own | May 20 07:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on the past week | May 20 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | gm | May 20 07:29 |
| Techrights-sec | it's still worth dealing with ITWire manually since although it does have | May 20 07:29 |
| Techrights-sec | some really good articles from time to time, for the most part it is tri[e | May 20 07:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ^trip | May 20 07:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ^tripe | May 20 07:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I associate them with the tripe | May 20 07:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's their "business model" | May 20 07:29 |
| Techrights-sec | though as mentioned several times Sam's articles tend to be good and then | May 20 07:50 |
| Techrights-sec | there are occasionally others too | May 20 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Curious: how do you feel since stoping to scroll through mastodon blobs looking for "toots"? | May 20 08:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | "algo speak" is partly outrage speak or clickbair speak | May 20 08:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking to get noticed in a sea of billions of daily mindfarts with little actual contribution to human | May 20 08:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowledge | May 20 08:06 |
| Techrights-sec | in a word, better | May 20 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | less stress | May 20 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | I still scan for URLs abotu once a week but if the entry does not have an | May 20 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | obvious URL, I don't read it | May 20 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | No URL -> no reference -> usually just some random though that cannot be verified | May 20 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "number of likes" does not mean likelihood of accuracy | May 20 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes it means the opposite | May 20 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is "outrage score | May 20 08:08 |
| Techrights-sec | exactly | May 20 08:08 |
| Techrights-sec | yes "engagement" does not relate to veracity or relevance. | May 20 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "not that I got your attention," says the unlothed person... | May 20 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec | I should probably check sometime in the next few days, but really don't feel | May 20 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | like wasting that time | May 20 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2009-2010 we had an identi.ca bot in IRC | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | It wouls coop up people like Moody and Greve | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Then, when posting IRC logs (we've done this since 2008) I'd click on LINKS they post | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and consider them as RSS feed equivalent | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I found that overwhelming at times | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | as that was a lot of links, even back then | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but curated at least | May 20 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Glyn Moody writes quite well and always on relevant and interesting topics | May 20 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec | but does not have a central place where one can find what he has written | May 20 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec | so it is hard to know where and when he has written | May 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Open dot dot dot... | May 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | He used to post there a daily roundup of his quips, or maybe that's a seperate blog | May 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | If the latter, I'm quit sure he stopped maintaining it >5 years ago | May 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he never had a site of his own, AFAIK | May 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | GoogleSpot was the cloest thing | May 20 08:13 |
| Techrights-sec | https://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com | May 20 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | that;s only his personal writings not his paid work | May 20 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opendotdotdot.blogspot.com | open... | May 20 08:14 | |
| schestowitz-TR | he already lost his spot at Linux Journal | May 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | He lost Gulag+ | May 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | He lost Diaspora | May 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | He lost Identica | May 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | Musk Social is left | May 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe some "toot" thing... | May 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | Maybe | May 20 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | May 20 08:16 |
| Techrights-sec | https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody | May 20 08:16 |
| Techrights-sec | no work-related writings there either | May 20 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Glyn Moody (@glynmoody@mastodon.social) - Mastodon | May 20 08:16 | |
| schestowitz-TR | he chose the mega-instance, mastodon.'social' | May 20 08:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | known for restrictions on speech | May 20 08:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | fyi suepo is escalating | May 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and will enhance the actions | May 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's confirmed to me techrights caused the ourage | May 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I put some details in irc | May 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | not in the blog | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | boasting/bragging is a weakness | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a risk/liability | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I left that out of last night's articles | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | eventually it's team upc losing its cool | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and looking like a bunch of ogres | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz | " The inflation in the Netherlands of 11.2% and in Germany of 7.8% over the last 12 months accounts for far more than a double step reward (on average 1 step equals 2%). Less than 60% of eligible staff (actually less than 50% of all staff) may receive a single step let alone a double step this year. This is the worst year in the career of EPO staff which comes at the time when staff worked diligently through the worst pandemic of the century and | May 20 08:20 |
| schestowitz | the worst inflation since the EPO inception." | May 20 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 20 08:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Does SUEPO have a concise summary for outsiders on their site, yet? | May 20 08:23 |
| Techrights-sec | It would go a long way to be able to point to the original source from time | May 20 08:23 |
| Techrights-sec | to time. | May 20 08:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | the site helps the union communicate with its members | May 20 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec | yes but there ought to be at least a little outward communication | May 20 08:32 |
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| Techrights-sec | by the way, Glyn's books have been quite good, | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | "Digital Code of Life: How Bioinformatics is Revolutionizing Science, Medicine, and Business by Glyn Moody" was hard to get aho | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | ld of though | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | Apparently there is not much market for books any more | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | "Rebel Code: Linux and the Open Source Revolution" is more relevant than ever | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | but the younger generations who need that message can't/don't read anything | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | longer that a "tweet" | May 20 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | when did you last sit in a queue and saw a kid reading a physical book | May 20 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than mess around with some "phone"? | May 20 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | Must be ove a decade. | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | A couple of years ago I helped one kid find a book for a book report. He wa | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | was supposedly a top student but whined and struggled with a ~ 100 page | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | novella, I figure he probably used the LibriVox edition rather than the | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | paperback I loaned him. But I haven't even heard second hand of anyone under | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | 40 or so reading anything, whether an ebook or a real book. | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Some will listen to podcasts and such but give equal weight to those as to | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | well researched works. However most seem to be "engaged" in tiktok or whatsapp | May 20 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | or similar empty timewasters. | May 20 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | BIAB WORKOUT | May 20 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | (oops, caps) | May 20 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 20 08:46 |
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| Techrights-sec | over the past few weeks there have been several links from ec.europa.eu | May 20 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | regarding patents and,potentially, software patents, if you are looking for | May 20 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | such material, those can warrant a close look | May 20 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13109-Intellectual-property-new-framework-for-standard-essential-patents/feedback_en?p_id=28414115 | May 20 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | The opportunity for feedback closed 9 May, so that has come and gone | May 20 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ec.europa.eu | Have your say | May 20 10:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, | May 20 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was just ota when you typed it | May 20 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | responding to a video of Campinos | May 20 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | a | May 20 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1-hour rebuttasl | May 20 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | this inc. exactly this subject | May 20 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "harmonisation" | May 20 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | Apple, for example, submitted 81 pages of comment pushing for patents and such | May 20 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, apple is a european company based in reland :-) | May 20 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | May 20 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they should take the demands/advice of yandex and huawei too | May 20 10:45 |
| Techrights-sec | it would be about as inappropriate | May 20 10:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Unfortunately there is rarely any coverage for these consultations unless, | May 20 10:50 |
| Techrights-sec | like this time, it happens after the period has closed | May 20 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | tickbox-checking exercise | May 20 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we did open up to feedback" | May 20 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | (from corporations, not even European ones) | May 20 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | May 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | just found and enabled a screen drawing thing in kwin so I can paint on top of things I show | May 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fututr videos | May 20 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | interesting capability | May 20 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the campinos video will take ages to process | May 20 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will likely do more like that | May 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing it gets under his skin | May 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "show me what hurts you" | May 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "so I know what yo do more of' | May 20 11:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you think the term "Monpoly Tony" is | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) polite enough | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) informative enough | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) effective | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ? | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Adopting it would // | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) be stupid | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) become catchy | May 20 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ? | May 20 11:42 |
| Techrights-sec | it'd be too unclear about to whom it refers, best stick with the given name | May 20 11:48 |
| Techrights-sec | it also may help in "SEO" to associate his name with TR articles ... | May 20 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | first name or last name? | May 20 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Monpopoly Antonia Campinos" is too long and not catchy | May 20 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will link the name Monopoly Tony o his wiki page | May 20 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Monopoly Tony has a "sing" to it | May 20 11:48 |
| Techrights-sec | both | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | right but an eptithet might not be necessary | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | if you introduce him in each article as 'Antonio "Mr Monopoly" Campinos' then | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | for the rest of that current article you can simply refer to him as | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Mr Mono-oloy, but it is important that the full name show up at least once | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | in each relevant article | May 20 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ok, the headline says his name | May 20 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the eptithet links to a wiki page s he loatghes deeply | May 20 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, the target audience here knows who that us | May 20 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | *is | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | that's ok, the repetition of the full name is important for later and for | May 20 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | newcomers and for the search engines, so three reasons IMHO | May 20 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | makes sense! | May 20 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I notice terms we use are adopted inside and outside EPO, over time... | May 20 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | May 20 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm guessing you saw some quotes in #techrights last night about what had happened | May 20 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | which ones? | May 20 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-190522.gmi | May 20 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-190522.html | May 20 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, May 19, 2022 | May 20 12:32 | |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | May 20 13:18 |
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| schestowitz-TR | some god news from turkey | May 20 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not too ffond of their regime | May 20 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they do represent a success story on the SF side | May 20 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | May 20 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | Aral's doing? | May 20 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, see latest 2 posts in TR | May 20 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Aral was a Mac fanboy for too long | May 20 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | he still loves JS | May 20 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | Aral's doing? | May 20 15:37 |
| Techrights-sec | yes javascript is a major downside to his work | May 20 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | tim b-l's also, plus GITHUB! | May 20 15:37 |
| Techrights-sec | timbl rendered himself mostly irrelevant as far as the future goes when | May 20 15:40 |
| Techrights-sec | he folded on EME / DRM | May 20 15:40 |
| psydroid2 | Solid/Inrupt | May 20 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | Tim's Rusty Linus moment | May 20 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | or some other analogies | May 20 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | or RMS going to lecture... Microsoft, only to be thrown under a bus to distract from BillG 2 weeks later? | May 20 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: solid went nowhere | May 20 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | except Microsoft | May 20 15:41 |
| psydroid2 | schestowitz-TR, I saw him do his presentation at FOSDEM 19, but halfway through someone from IRC came to meet me and we left | May 20 15:42 |
| Techrights-sec | I still don't get what went on with RMS that he would have such exceedingly bad | May 20 15:42 |
| Techrights-sec | jusdgment as to visit Redmond | May 20 15:42 |
| psydroid2 | it's not that I was overly interested in it, it just gave me a chuckle that he was even trying to peddle this lame duck | May 20 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I asked him to write to explain | May 20 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | which he did | May 20 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the storm started | May 20 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he mostly vanished | May 20 15:43 |
| Techrights-sec | so maybe he will never bring it up again? | May 20 15:44 |
| Techrights-sec | too bad, others could learn from that mistake if more details were known | May 20 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: I know very little about it | May 20 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | except Microsoft shit+JS shit | May 20 15:45 |
| psydroid2 | schestowitz-TR, it just sounded so lame | May 20 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he was helping DRM agenda around that time | May 20 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | a senior moment | May 20 15:45 |
| psydroid2 | as if he was trying to keep people onboard | May 20 15:45 |
| psydroid2 | rather than suggesting a way out of the mess | May 20 15:45 |
| psydroid2 | I would not trust this guy with anything ever again | May 20 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | I see the two posts on market share in Turkey | May 20 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | It would help if there were a link from the statement that school migratinos | May 20 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | play a large role in the numbers | May 20 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the statements would not be in englisha dn in fact english-speaking media totally ignored all this | May 20 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can guess why | May 20 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can too | May 20 15:47 |
| Techrights-sec | yes AFAIK similar happened in Spain, starting with Extremadura. The mainstream | May 20 15:47 |
| Techrights-sec | press pretended the land had vanished as it upgraded tp GNU/Linux and dropped | May 20 15:47 |
| Techrights-sec | M$ all around. | May 20 15:47 |
| psydroid2 | I speak Spanish pretty well, but my Turkish is in its infancy | May 20 15:48 |
| psydroid2 | there is a lot to be found in Spanish | May 20 15:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, /in/ Spanish but not about Spain in English... | May 20 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the nature of media manipulation | May 20 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) microsoft holes blamed on victims and attackers | May 20 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) billg is vaccine expert, not profiteers, and his haters are all just "antiovaxxer" and jealous | May 20 15:51 |
| psydroid2 | fortunately English isn't the only language spoken in the world | May 20 15:52 |
| psydroid2 | and I don't think it's fair to expect people from each country to write in a foreign language to reach a wider audience | May 20 15:53 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | May 20 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | IIRC, Spanish is spoke in most countries | May 20 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe Arabic by most people | May 20 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not Mandarin | May 20 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | English spoken as a secondary language in many places | May 20 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | or third language | May 20 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | after the fall of the British Empire and see US hegemony this will change | May 20 16:00 |
| psydroid2 | Hindi | May 20 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | that can take several more generations to change | May 20 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: but many dialects in India, no? | May 20 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | in school, aged around 10, I did a project about Indian languages | May 20 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I might still have that somewhere in my archives | May 20 16:01 |
| psydroid2 | schestowitz-TR, yes, but this is specifically about standard Hindi | May 20 16:01 |
| psydroid2 | I speak another North Indian language natively | May 20 16:01 |
| psydroid2 | in addition to Hindi | May 20 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | Not in the country but at least those outside the country covering that beat. | May 20 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | Spain was covered up until major parts dropped M$. | May 20 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | However, there is a margeting and political advantage for each country | May 20 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | presenting an English language news service for foreign consumption. | May 20 16:01 |
| psydroid2 | I think that's more important if English is the only foreign language you speak | May 20 16:02 |
| psydroid2 | German is still very important in Europe | May 20 16:03 |
| psydroid2 | and French when speaking to people in Africa | May 20 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | western africa | May 20 16:03 |
| psydroid2 | and Anglophone countries abuse that power they have over people who at most speak English in addition to their native language(s) by offering bad living/working conditions | May 20 16:06 |
| Techrights-sec | https://today.rtl.lu/ | May 20 16:09 |
| Techrights-sec | https://cphpost.dk/?cat=8 | May 20 16:09 |
| Techrights-sec | https://news.err.ee/ | May 20 16:09 |
| Techrights-sec | https://eng.lsm.lv/ | May 20 16:09 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.lrt.lt/en/ | May 20 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Home | May 20 16:09 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://about.rte.ie/ | May 20 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cphpost.dk | News Archives - The Post | May 20 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.err.ee | news | ERR | May 20 16:09 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://mexiconewsdaily.com/category/news/ | May 20 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Eng.lsm.lv - Reliable news from Latvia | May 20 16:09 | |
| Techrights-sec | and many African countries have English as a primary or secondary language | May 20 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.lrt.lt | Lithuanian National Television and Radio. News, livestreams, video, audio - LRT | May 20 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-about.rte.ie | About RTÉ | May 20 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mexiconewsdaily.com | Mexico news archives | May 20 16:09 | |
| psydroid2 | https://www.edudwar.com/list-of-most-spoken-languages-in-the-world/ | May 20 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.edudwar.com | List of Most spoken Languages in the World 2022: top languages in the World | May 20 16:09 | |
| psydroid2 | French is the fastest growing language in Africa | May 20 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | I can muddle through much of the cyrillica and devangiri alphabets but th | May 20 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | the transliteration does nothing without knowing the languagess. | May 20 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Back before he started making American movies, I used to read enough Chines | May 20 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | to find Jackie Chan's name on videos in the Chinese video shop. Same for jet li | May 20 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | and a few others. That's all forgotten now. | May 20 16:10 |
| psydroid2 | if you don't use it, you'll lose it | May 20 16:11 |
| Techrights-sec | There are only 24 hours per day and memories / knowledge fades without refresshing | May 20 16:16 |
| psydroid2 | minä puhun väh | May 20 16:17 |
| psydroid2 | än suomea | May 20 16:17 |
| psydroid2 | or something like that | May 20 16:17 |
| psydroid2 | it's been a while | May 20 16:17 |
| psydroid2 | and yes, I know | May 20 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Students should not have to use proprietary software to participate in the educational process. The FSFE joins the Dutch coalition ‘Fair Digital Education’ supporting privacy-respecting solutions involving Free Software in schools." https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220520-01.en.html | May 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfe.org | FSFE signs Dutch manifesto calling for education improvements - FSFE | May 20 17:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Indonesian LibreOffice community: recent activities https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/05/20/indonesian-libreoffice-community-recent-activities/ | May 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.documentfoundation.org | Indonesian LibreOffice community: recent activities - The Document Foundation Blog | May 20 17:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | keep pushing | May 20 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we make progress | May 20 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media is not on our side | May 20 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 20 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | yea | May 20 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | same issue re EPO and "AYE PEE" | May 20 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | FUCK THE MEDIA! | May 20 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | People can see for themselves who makes more sense | May 20 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | Monopoly Tony or what he called (int the talk) "movement" of "anti-IP" | May 20 17:35 |
| *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) | May 20 17:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Outsourcing one's readership to a volatile third party seems like short-sighted and risky a move from a site almost 30 years old https://lwn.net/Articles/895898/ | May 20 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-LWN is now on Mastodon [LWN.net] | May 20 18:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR | laws is well known | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | not some new incognito | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | case scanario: "oh, cool, I can follow all the sites here... FREE CANDY!" | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | user stops using the rss feed, uses this instead | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | instance shuts down | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | reader lost | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "oh, shit, I forgot you exist or thought you stopped publishing!!" | May 20 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | /s/laws/LWN/ | May 20 18:54 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 20 18:55 |
| Techrights-sec | which source for the quote? | May 20 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | just hypothetical, joke | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | a long long time ago I worried about that | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2010 or earlier | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | boycott novell days | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | now LWN can become "just some account" | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and people might not even explore the site | May 20 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like B2B marketing | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of setting up shop | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you see: | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's OK if people link to LWN | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but people won't assume that those peolple are LWN | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | or that LWN is an account | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also chose a likely very transient instgance | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | fosstodon | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is only years old | May 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | how do you prove intent | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | as in "intnetional"? | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | boycott novell can be banned in an instance | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is intentionaly antagonistic to some things | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | yoiu are REQUIRED to be "active in the community" | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you cannot post just links to lwn with a script | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | to your own site | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | you must leave some "likes" and comments here and there | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Orwell would be proud | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot "engege in personao attacls" | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, shit, there go all my posts about Zemlin | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the millionaire | May 20 19:08 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | May 20 19:08 |
| Techrights-sec | or they can intentionally misconstrue everything and anything as a personal | May 20 19:08 |
| Techrights-sec | attack | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | rule number one says "antiSemitism" and "transphobia" | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | under "hateful ideaologies" | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | HAHAHAHA | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "do not debate moderation action" | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are above the law! | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Cannot even talk about their decisions!! | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | You MUST post only in ENGLISH! | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Because...oderation | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | *moderatin | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | that does seem against the principles of inclusion :-) | May 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you see above "how do you prove intent | May 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I lost that (out of scrollback) | May 20 19:12 |
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| Techrights-sec | not that far back | May 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, I wrongly estimated number of lines I had after restating this machine | May 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I know roughly what I said there, I'm likely going to do a video about it | May 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'Do not be intentionally antagonistic. A post or reply designed to provoke a confrontation is not acceptable." | May 20 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://fosstodon.org/about/more | May 20 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org - Fosstodon | May 20 19:45 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | OTA | May 20 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've increased the visile buffer; along the way I found some ytalk feature I was not aware of before | May 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, it's fine as it is | May 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't lose anythingm of value | May 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the scrollback helped a bit when recording | May 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a vague recolle | May 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | ction of what I said | May 20 20:45 |
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