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Techrights-sec2"""Sep 20 04:04
Techrights-sec2news.tuxmachines.org uses an invalid security certificate.Sep 20 04:04
Techrights-sec2The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.Sep 20 04:04
Techrights-sec2Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERTSep 20 04:04
Techrights-sec2"""Sep 20 04:04
Techrights-sec2or so say Firefox :(Sep 20 04:04
Techrights-sec2The certificate is fine, the problem lies with MozillaSep 20 04:04
schestowitz-TRMozilla's CSOSep 20 04:05
schestowitz-TRno relevant experienceSep 20 04:05
*Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).Sep 20 04:09
*Now talking on #boycottnovellSep 20 04:10
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schestowitz-TRthe servers were restarted/rebootedSep 20 04:21
schestowitz-TRI was not aware of such a thing being plannedSep 20 04:21
schestowitz-TRgmnisrv did not automatically start on tm-newSep 20 04:21
schestowitz-TRI had to restart it manually withSep 20 04:21
schestowitz-TRrc-service gmnisrv restartSep 20 04:21
schestowitz-TRdo you know how to set that to auto-start?Sep 20 04:21
schestowitz-TRthe firewall and logs tmux sessions are now gone, tooSep 20 04:22
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Techrights-seccheckingSep 20 04:25
Techrights-secthe tmux sessions were started manuallySep 20 04:37
Techrights-secan open-rc script can be made insteadSep 20 04:37
Techrights-secrc-update add gmnisrvSep 20 04:37
Techrights-secshoud have done it; mosquitto seemsto have startedSep 20 04:37
Techrights-secThe basic firewall (NFT) is active upon rebootSep 20 04:37
schestowitz-TRjust chasing other things that now need fixing after the rebootSep 20 04:37
schestowitz-TRbrbSep 20 04:37
Techrights-secwhy was there a reboot? which package update required the reboot?Sep 20 04:41
schestowitz-TRI don't know, but it looks like hv was restarted around 4am hereSep 20 04:42
schestowitz-TRat least it gives us a chance to see what needs manual inteventionSep 20 04:42
schestowitz-TR Sep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRmystery not solvedSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRat around 2:50 the bulletin was uploadedSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRit went ok to txtSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRbut not to the persistent URL rather than /txtSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRthe logs do not show an issueSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRbut based on irc the file did not get passedSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRI've just uploaded it manuallySep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRit was a large fileSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRbut this is the first time it happensSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRnot related to the rebootSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRa long time before thatSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRok, after almost an hour I think everything is back in orderSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRat least these reboots are very rareSep 20 04:56
schestowitz-TRand we did not lose anything in logs etc.Sep 20 04:56
Techrights-secackSep 20 05:03
schestowitz-TRok, i think I see further evidence of the upload errorSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRi will do two manual sanity checks tomorrow morningSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRmaybe a small network glitch Sep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRand the bulletin being 1.5mb in size makes it more likely to time outSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRI'd rather spend an hour checking and checkingSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRthen overlook some issue, as it might happen againSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRtoday i will (again, as usual lately) need some topics to coverSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRI find things to put in Daily Links, TM etc.Sep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRbut a lot is blandSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRlike release announcementsSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TRno real analysis of thingsSep 20 05:11
schestowitz-TR07:00] <schestowitz> "I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that Dave came up with perfect response to the other blog post"Sep 20 07:08
schestowitz-TR[07:00] <schestowitz> the perl link is wrongSep 20 07:08
schestowitz-TR[07:00] <schestowitz> it links to nprSep 20 07:08
schestowitz-TR[07:00] <schestowitz> I cannot find it using Gulag SearchSep 20 07:08
Techrights-seccheckingSep 20 07:08
Techrights-secfixedSep 20 07:08
schestowitz-TRcan you paste the url here?Sep 20 07:08
schestowitz-TRjust the url? i need it for a cluster about rakuSep 20 07:08
Techrights-secBy the way, what caused the reboot?  I missed the advanced notice?Sep 20 07:13
schestowitz-TRthere was no noticeSep 20 07:14
schestowitz-TRgood thing I woke up just before that happened and was able to respondSep 20 07:14
Techrights-secThen what might have been the cause?Sep 20 07:18
schestowitz-TRI'd rather not ask as it is rare and I don't want to bother kaniiniSep 20 07:18
Techrights-secThe hv logs have the same problem as the other Alpine logs, that the Sep 20 07:28
Techrights-secauthorization was piled into the main logs and then bury any relevantSep 20 07:28
Techrights-secinformation.Sep 20 07:28
schestowitz-TRafter the reboot I noticed that ergoirc scrollback/history does not go further back then the rebootSep 20 07:29
schestowitz-TR*thanSep 20 07:29
schestowitz-TRsooner or later a reboot will happenSep 20 07:34
schestowitz-TRcurrently it runs the kernel it booted intoSep 20 07:34
schestowitz-TRif we encounter issues, we can reboot againSep 20 07:34
schestowitz-TRso far no issues seen/feltSep 20 07:34
schestowitz-TRbrb too many things going on at onceSep 20 07:34
schestowitz-TRand I am on shiftSep 20 07:34
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schestowitz-TRone more hour, then I am free for 2 daysSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRI am prioritising TM links at the moment, then Daily LinksSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRspeed mattersSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRepo admin council meeting coming soonSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRfor maximal impact the series needs to be timed correctlySep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRi have tons of github materialSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRit does not feel like enough sites speak about the issues with githubSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRsome kernel hackers contact meSep 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRthey know github is an attack on gitSep 20 08:12
schestowitz-TRsome people complain about LF tooSep 20 08:12
schestowitz-TRbut not openlySep 20 08:12
schestowitz-TRyou have just uploaded other-links for 21-09 by accidentSep 20 08:12
Techrights-secokSep 20 08:20
schestowitz-TRI am going to revise my workflow to improve efficiencySep 20 08:22
schestowitz-TRI need to identify what routine tasks I do that can either be dropped or automatedSep 20 08:22
Techrights-secThe "CoC" prevents them from publicly criticizing M$ and by extension M$ GitHubSep 20 08:36
schestowitz-TRthat's "hate"Sep 20 08:36
schestowitz-TRand hate leads to violenceSep 20 08:36
Techrights-sec"words" are "violence" || words "are" violence   Sep 20 08:38
Techrights-secaccording that mobSep 20 08:38
Techrights-secwars are big business, which is why acusations of "hate" are *very* selectivelySep 20 08:38
Techrights-secappliedSep 20 08:38
schestowitz-TRwars are businessSep 20 08:39
schestowitz-TRbetter not interfereSep 20 08:39
schestowitz-TR"shut up, you are getting paid" -ECMASep 20 08:39
schestowitz-TRtso: iraq war bush yada yada rape stasticsSep 20 08:39
schestowitz-TRbrigade: wait, what did you say about rape?Sep 20 08:39
Techrights-secNote that JKRowling was punching hard in politics right before she got  Sep 20 08:39
Techrights-secbrigaded by the misogynistsSep 20 08:39
schestowitz-TRfrom what I have reading, writing about that other topic was the fruits of provocationSep 20 08:41
schestowitz-TRbasically steering the target into the trapSep 20 08:41
schestowitz-TRlike interjecting that stuff into IRC channelsSep 20 08:41
schestowitz-TRself-fulfilling prophecySep 20 08:41
schestowitz-TRas someone will say somethingSep 20 08:41
Techrights-sechttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-warcrimes-usa-idUSKBN1392OISep 20 08:41
Techrights-sechttps://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.htmlSep 20 08:41
Techrights-secyes they bait targetsSep 20 08:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hague prosecutors say U.S. forces may have committed war crimes | ReutersSep 20 08:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Dutch still wincing at Bush-era 'Invasion of The Hague Act' - CSMonitor.comSep 20 08:41
schestowitz-TRsomehow all the chiefs in linux kernel (original people) are extremely "rude"Sep 20 08:43
schestowitz-TRand the same goes for everyone ever involved in wikileaksSep 20 08:43
schestowitz-TRor...Sep 20 08:43
schestowitz-TRmaybe the narrative shift is at faultSep 20 08:43
schestowitz-TRCEOs of companies that attack Linux have said and done far worseSep 20 08:43
Techrights-sechttps://www.abc-clio.com/products/c8109c/Sep 20 08:43
schestowitz-TRthe media loves themSep 20 08:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-George W. Bush, War Criminal? The Bush Administration's Liability for 269 War Crimes • ABC-CLIOSep 20 08:43
schestowitz-TRbuddy of bill gatesSep 20 08:45
schestowitz-TRjust like jeff epsteinSep 20 08:45
schestowitz-TRnot a word from the brigadesSep 20 08:45
schestowitz-TRryan the poor man from IL is far more relevant to the bigger picture than billg isSep 20 08:45
Techrights-secackSep 20 08:45
schestowitz-TRthe irc log from yesterday was long, full of typos, even trollingSep 20 08:47
schestowitz-TRbut in between there was some relevant material as wellSep 20 08:47
schestowitz-TRI wonder if the bulletin being 1.5 mb touched some threshold, which is why one file did not get uploadedSep 20 08:47
schestowitz-TRthis is 100% not related to the downtime    Sep 20 08:47
schestowitz-TRbut my nroutine checks caught the problemSep 20 08:47
schestowitz-TRso now I lack confidence in the process until some further sanity checksSep 20 08:47
schestowitz-TRwith today's IRC logs I'll double check files' presense alsoSep 20 08:47
Techrights-secackSep 20 08:48
schestowitz-TRfree from work nowSep 20 09:13
schestowitz-TRso less pressure/stressSep 20 09:13
schestowitz-TRin case someone fiddles with with short tempersSep 20 09:13
Techrights-secackSep 20 09:21
schestowitz-TRpriority #1: relay and organise news, and fastSep 20 09:22
schestowitz-TRpriority z (last): respond to people who try to interfere with #1 Sep 20 09:22
schestowitz-TR(one needs to properly understand the issues to do it sensibly, not like a bot/drone/LF shill)Sep 20 09:22
Techrights-secackSep 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRthe occasional editorial comments and editorial picks (omissions of falsehoods) can help a lotSep 20 09:25
schestowitz-TReven if now drawning many repliesSep 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRitsfoss is run by one or two clueless people with a nose for moneySep 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRrianne keeps complaining about them more than I doSep 20 09:25
Techrights-secclueless on purpose or by accidentSep 20 09:25
Techrights-sec?Sep 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRsome people, when faced with prospect of a quick buck, can deceive themselvesSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRand that cannot be easily distinguished from dishonestySep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRfor a few weeks christine did a trivia experiment at fossforceSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRseems to have stoppedSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRnot sure what to do with that domainSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRfor a few years it was 'on loan' to bbyfieldSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRof course he mostly attacked the FS movementSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRconcern-trolling itSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRnow that site is donning endorsements for LFSep 20 09:28
schestowitz-TRfor diploma millsSep 20 09:29
schestowitz-TRjust years after christine blasted LFSep 20 09:29
schestowitz-TRLF has only gotten more sinister since thenSep 20 09:29
schestowitz-TRspamnil, sjvn and chums know where the $ isSep 20 09:29
schestowitz-TRyou can even get paid for videos that get just 10 viewsSep 20 09:29
schestowitz-TRthen spend the money buying clickfraudSep 20 09:29
Techrights-secackSep 20 09:30
Techrights-secso.  clueless on purpose, it would seemSep 20 09:30
schestowitz-TRsaying this out in the open makes oneself more enemies than necessarySep 20 09:33
schestowitz-TRbut for informal irc discussion I think it's OKSep 20 09:33
schestowitz-TRchristine was hurt by some things figosdev wroteSep 20 09:33
schestowitz-TR(in the site)Sep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRre clueless on purposeSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRthat's a comedy-centric termSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRit is contradictoty within its own contaxtSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRbecause if you do it on purpose you are not cluelessSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRitsfoss is mostly 2 peopleSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRI know them, they asked me for TM accountSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRthey don't live in a rich countrySep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRand they have some guest writersSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRI don't want to hurt themSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRbtw, mjg, who reads this (in irc)Sep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRis a clever personSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRwell educatedSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRhe too knows that he's full of BS sometimesSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRbut he is buoyed by $Sep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRmaybe one day he'll relentSep 20 09:34
Techrights-secwell-educated at least but short on judgementSep 20 09:34
Techrights-secor recantSep 20 09:34
Techrights-secor repentSep 20 09:34
Techrights-secbut first when the money runs out he'll relentSep 20 09:34
schestowitz-TRwhen people become insecure due to lack of sometthingSep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRthey fall back on or compensate with $Sep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TR"look how much I made"Sep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRI can guess what was lackingSep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRbut guessing is not good when you're assessed on accuracySep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRso I keep speculation to myselfSep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRit's the same with GraveleySep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRa weirdo, a freak, a mental caseSep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TReven de icaza acknowledged as suchSep 20 09:36
Techrights-secackSep 20 09:36
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft is prince andrewSep 20 09:39
schestowitz-TRI am the guy who shouters from the crowdSep 20 09:39
schestowitz-TRmjg is the copSep 20 09:39
schestowitz-TRdoing the dirty work for andrewSep 20 09:39
schestowitz-TRby arresting the person who calls him outSep 20 09:39
schestowitz-TR(I assume you saw the videos by now)Sep 20 09:39
Techrights-secnope but I have read about cops roughing up anyone in the crowd there who Sep 20 09:46
Techrights-sechas spoken up about "no kings" or similarSep 20 09:46
Techrights-secToo bad much of the press and most of the politicians are fed by MBS' ownSep 20 09:46
Techrights-secTwitter Inc which modifies the discourse by boosting or suppressing specificSep 20 09:46
Techrights-sectags or catchphrases.  Sep 20 09:46
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=niKzVnaoK5sSep 20 09:46
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=9YSie19OACI Sep 20 09:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | 'Andrew, you're a sick man': police drag heckler from crowd during Queen's procession - InvidiousSep 20 09:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Man Calls Prince Andrew 'Sick Old Man' During Royal Procession - InvidiousSep 20 09:46
schestowitz-TRyou can be sure cops anmd spies will dig up any dirt gchq can find on himSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRto shiuft the narrativeSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRand maybe justify the treatment he receivedSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRdistracting from the treatment "Andrew" gave womenSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRinc. exesSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRlike the man who films the mureder of eric garnerSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRand was later arrestedSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRthen diedSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRlike the daughter of eric garnerSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TR"well, he's dead"Sep 20 09:49
Techrights-secackSep 20 09:49
Techrights-secThe cops suppress criticism because it could lead to criticism of Bill Sep 20 09:49
Techrights-secyepSep 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRcrticism is "hateSep 20 09:50
schestowitz-TRif you go to a football game and hold up a sign against Newcastle United being owned by a terror familySep 20 09:50
schestowitz-TRthey will detain you, not the saudisSep 20 09:50
schestowitz-TRand this is how the terms of in the laws (not just "hate") are misusedSep 20 09:50
schestowitz-TR[19:37] <techrights-news> Today a young Brit will face a royal CoC (Code of Conduct). "Andrew" the 'prince' can screw girls, but you only face charges for shouting at "Andrew" the 'prince' for screwing girls...Sep 20 09:51
schestowitz-TR[19:39] <techrights-news> In a similar vein, in FOSS/tech the CoC is protecting vulnerable minorities such as Google and Microsoft... from people who 'HECKLE' them over their war crimes, corruption etc.Sep 20 09:51
schestowitz-TRerica garner died from bad healthSep 20 09:56
schestowitz-TRntohign to indicate otherwiseSep 20 09:56
schestowitz-TRobese, tooSep 20 09:56
schestowitz-TRbut...Sep 20 09:56
schestowitz-TRshe had become a MASSIVE liaibility to cops and the left leftSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRshe responded to leaks about ClintonSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRand had MASSIVE following onlineSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRcondemned cops and the system regaulardlySep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRso her death was not only tragic (she was young)Sep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRalso an epic lossSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRshe would blast HRC for her racismSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRbased on leaksSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRdemocracynow had her on many times, iircSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRshe was youngSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRamy goodman and others are oldSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRlike chomsky, the state can just wait patiently for them to die naturallySep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRassange was "too young"Sep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRhis father is still very active and in high spiritsSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRassange is also widely recogniseSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRlike some harry potter authorSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRso there are hounds taking down their imagesSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TReven tearing down recognition symbolcSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRlike murals, medals, statues, faculties, articlesSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRwikipedia is one form of sabotageSep 20 09:57
schestowitz-TRI've mostly stopped linking to wikipedia if I can avoid itSep 20 09:57
mjg59_tbf assange is a rapistSep 20 09:58
mjg59_So criticism there is pretty justifiableSep 20 09:58
Techrights-secWikipedia is mostly just corporate marketeering and paid squattersSep 20 10:00
schestowitz-TRI saw people wasting a lot of time trying to correct itSep 20 10:00
schestowitz-TRit's pointlessSep 20 10:00
schestowitz-TRor trying to correct corrupt publishersSep 20 10:01
schestowitz-TRit's like trying to draw blood from a rockSep 20 10:01
schestowitz-TRit might yield something at the endSep 20 10:01
schestowitz-TRbut low return on effortSep 20 10:01
schestowitz-TRsame with trying to persuade "the media" to cover EPO crimesSep 20 10:01
schestowitz-TRthis is a type Z prioritySep 20 10:11
schestowitz-TRdistracts from priority #1Sep 20 10:11
schestowitz-TRmaybe that's its goalSep 20 10:11
schestowitz-TRwearing off mentallySep 20 10:11
schestowitz-TRI could use some timely topics to coverSep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRi thought of aq few yesterdaySep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRbut changed my mindSep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRlike sfcSep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRit's not too clear what goes on behind the scenesSep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRbased on the message from zoe kooyman, they are fighting over stewardshipSep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRiow, sfc wants to outgrow FSF and take over its revenue sourcesSep 20 10:13
schestowitz-TRi.e. similar to what fsfe SANS Georg Greve is trying to doSep 20 10:13
Techrights-secThe topic of libel?Sep 20 10:15
Techrights-secCheck the recent video from Nick regarding the abuse of control over browserSep 20 10:15
Techrights-secextensions.  Some real trouble will be enabled by those changes.Sep 20 10:15
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/how-google-is-killing-your-ad-blockers:bSep 20 10:15
Techrights-secThere might be a written source to point to instead     Sep 20 10:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | How Google is KILLING your AD BLOCKERS and tracker blockers with Manifest v3Sep 20 10:15
Techrights-sechttps://www.itworldcanada.com/post/googles-manifest-v3-rules-restrict-adguards-new-ad-blockerSep 20 10:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.itworldcanada.com | Google’s manifest V3 rules restrict AdGuard’s new ad blocker - IT World CanadaSep 20 10:15
schestowitz-TRI liked to Nick's video twiceSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRfrom two sourcesSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRyou know which 2Sep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRI am not too sympathetic to nick himself as his videos are littered with adsSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRand he even does fake reviews and gift-shillingSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRwhich is why youtube took action against him (again, selectively; gulag doesn't like real linux)Sep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TR*linked toSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRthere are already written articles on this topicSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRI did not watch nick's videoSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRso it would not cover something truly newSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRgulag needs to be eradicatedSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRbut less urgently than MicrosoftSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRbut it's not a serial taskSep 20 10:17
schestowitz-TRyou can do both at the same time if more people join in and make a wave of negative publiciyySep 20 10:17
Techrights-sechttps://www.itworldcanada.com/post/googles-manifest-v3-rules-restrict-adguards-new-ad-blockerSep 20 10:19
Techrights-secYes, the shilling is a barrier but he provides timestamps to hop over easily  Sep 20 10:19
Techrights-secenough Sep 20 10:19
Techrights-secM$ has been able to agitate politicians and, to a lessr extent, the publicSep 20 10:19
Techrights-secagainst Google / Alphabet.  The attention is well-earned but due to verySep 20 10:19
Techrights-secrestricted resources, that takes the political and legal heat entirely off ofSep 20 10:19
Techrights-secm$ in regards to scrutiny over anti-competitive practices and monopoly abuse.Sep 20 10:19
schestowitz-TRyou said nick isolates the ad partsSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRnot sure if this is noticed, but when i use invidious in TM I add the ?t=[marker] to help people skip past the cruft if possibleSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRi think it also makes the videos a little more accessibleSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRif I need to make the videos more narrow by default, that can easily be doneSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRI don't think I can specify width in %Sep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRnot for those kids of elementsSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRi think it's iframeSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRwith a canvas for <video>Sep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRi think the hard part is adjusting height, based on aspect ratioSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRthere must be a waySep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRbut I am not sureSep 20 10:22
schestowitz-TRlooking into itSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRmay take time, as I need to find video and then test in many settings/browsersSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRanother issue is, iframe width might be specified for whole page/browser of just one divSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRand different clients may handle it differentlytSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRadditional issue: if the browser is rescaled, can the video too be rescaled on the fly?Sep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRdon't know how different formats do thisSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRnoody knows if proprioetary format with intentional complexcity for more swpatsSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRbut experience suggests that with videos, they specify fixed pixel scaleSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRand then just stick with itSep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRnothing 'fluid'Sep 20 10:29
schestowitz-TRto avoid making a mess in vivo at TM I will do some tests in schestowitz.com/Weblgo in vitroSep 20 10:32
schestowitz-TRbbiabSep 20 10:32
schestowitz-TROK, seems like the issue is, iframe cannot have height specified in %Sep 20 10:41
schestowitz-TRat least not in librewolf (gecko)Sep 20 10:41
schestowitz-TRthat's why it's sensible to specify absolute size for video dimensionsSep 20 10:41
Techrights-secIs there a way to avoid iframes ?Sep 20 10:41
schestowitz-TRno, not with indiviousSep 20 10:42
Techrights-sec:( Sep 20 10:42
schestowitz-TRno matter which invidious instance is usedSep 20 10:42
schestowitz-TRtesting some css changes to iframeSep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRsee what I wrote last night after checking the stats on diaspora and fedivrseSep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRI did not check peertube and othersSep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRit's going down anywaySep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRif you mimic shit you go down with the S.H.I.T. boatSep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRTM is still very light and fastSep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRI've not make css changes yetSep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRI test locallySep 20 10:53
Techrights-secThe Freedom-oriented services emulate the anti-user maneuvers of the others.Sep 20 10:53
Techrights-secNotice that usability is out and even Free software is becoming orientedSep 20 10:53
Techrights-sectowards 'engagement' also known as inefficiency and time-wasting.Sep 20 10:53
Techrights-seccheckingSep 20 10:53
Techrights-secwhich title from last night?Sep 20 10:53
schestowitz-TRit was in irc, circa 9pmSep 20 10:54
schestowitz-TRI thought about doing an articleSep 20 10:54
schestowitz-TRand said it would be like "bashing" FOSS alternativesSep 20 10:54
schestowitz-TRso didn't take screenshotsSep 20 10:54
Techrights-secgemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ ?Sep 20 10:56
schestowitz-TRthis reminds me today's task is to identify what condumes timeSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRand cut that off or automateSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRso I can write more and longer postsSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRbtw, as I page through TM I see it's like turning the page of a bookSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRvery fastSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TReven on low bw connectionSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRas there is very little to load both at the front and back endSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRit's a nifty design that's akin to newspaperSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRno infitine scroll with JSSep 20 10:58
schestowitz-TRI was lookng for videosSep 20 10:58
Techrights-secNice.  The speed is another benefit.Sep 20 10:59
Techrights-secAnother disadvantage from our perspective, but advantage from the other camp,Sep 20 10:59
Techrights-secfor infinite scroll is the inability bookmark or even re-find material. Sep 20 10:59
Techrights-secThere are a lot of interests with money which wish for the ability to citeSep 20 10:59
Techrights-secmaterial to be eliminate, from what I observe.Sep 20 10:59
schestowitz-TRI'[ve long argued, in public maybe a dozen times, that social control media has the shelf life of a pieced appleSep 20 11:01
schestowitz-TRwithin an hour it's already "old"Sep 20 11:01
schestowitz-TRwithin  a day it's as good as "Deleted"Sep 20 11:01
schestowitz-TRnobody will ever find or read or share itSep 20 11:01
schestowitz-TReven when you know what you are searching for it's something you're under-utilised to doSep 20 11:01
schestowitz-TRor ill-equipped ratherSep 20 11:01
Techrights-secI concur with that assessmentSep 20 11:04
Techrights-secAnother topic could be related to the infliction of Rust on the Kernel.  Sep 20 11:04
Techrights-secThere are logistical problems with having two languages.  There is also    Sep 20 11:04
Techrights-secthe out-of-project control the CoC-suckers have over the technical side.Sep 20 11:04
Techrights-secThere is the problem of M$ GitHub on top of all that.  Some of the projectSep 20 11:04
Techrights-secpages have not been updated this year.         Sep 20 11:04
schestowitz-TRah, yes, that's a good topicSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRI will think over it with coffee, breaks etc.Sep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRlike things that can be saidSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRand then recordSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRsjvn shilled with LFSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRand then they cogratulate LT for his concessionSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRstockholm syndrome imhoSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRrust itself is having SEVERAL crisesSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRI mentioned some in IRCSep 20 11:06
schestowitz-TRlast night I noted that Servo (Bakersoft) being outsourced to LF was its death knellSep 20 11:07
schestowitz-TRno blog post sicne 2 years agoSep 20 11:07
schestowitz-TRLF became a dead project's shelf Sep 20 11:07
schestowitz-TR("oh, but we also "support" Linux")Sep 20 11:07
schestowitz-TR"would you like your dead-end project to borrow the lively brand?"Sep 20 11:07
schestowitz-TRethereum founder: my shitcoin will be "linux" by 2040Sep 20 11:07
Techrights-sec                Sep 20 11:08
Techrights-secLike other things, there are interests that have wanted to kill off the Sep 20 11:08
Techrights-secumbrella organization which has sheltered and paid the top Kernel people.Sep 20 11:08
Techrights-secWeakening the brand and running the image aground are tactics to make peopleSep 20 11:08
Techrights-sectire of the trademark and not defend the project.  Linus is losing the         Sep 20 11:08
Techrights-secwindow of opportunity to take his trademark and walk.  He already looks olderSep 20 11:08
Techrights-secthan his dad.Sep 20 11:08
schestowitz-TRwait, you realise they already signalled to him they can caharcater-aassasinate himSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRin and with "the media"Sep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRpeople don't forget such stuff, it slows down timeSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRlinus: i adopt rust because I got all rusty from the trollsSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRand maybe if I adopt this pile of shit that ITS OWN PEOPLE FLEE FROM (!)Sep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRwhich has security issues (again this week) it'll make linux 'secure' and calm downSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRthe corporate trollsSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRRust was funded and shills by GulagSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRvia front groups disguised as "security" soemthingSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRI forgot their nameSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRand you can see who pays the salary of the relevant kernel peopleSep 20 11:10
schestowitz-TRgoogle.comSep 20 11:11
schestowitz-TR@Sep 20 11:11
schestowitz-TRthis is the company that worked hard to replace linux, in vainSep 20 11:11
schestowitz-TRdue to gplSep 20 11:11
schestowitz-TRamong other factorsSep 20 11:11
Techrights-secThat might have been what they held over his head to inflict Rust on the Kernel.Sep 20 11:12
Techrights-secEven just the logistical nightmare of having a second language increasesSep 20 11:12
Techrights-secthe complexity of managing the project and of the code base itself. Sep 20 11:12
Techrights-secComplexity is the opposite of security.Sep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TRrust will get orphanedSep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TRlike servo and gecko in the futureSep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TRservo already seems deadSep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TRthen what?Sep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TRlinus made git because of a similar scenario of "orphaning"Sep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TRyou need to become a maintainer for that upon which you became reliable  Sep 20 11:12
schestowitz-TR*reliantSep 20 11:12
Techrights-secackSep 20 11:16
schestowitz-TRthanks, this discussion will help me when (or if) recordign laterSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRi saw not a single article (!!) sceptical let alone critical of thisSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRthis is when journalism becomes PR/cheerleading for sponsorsSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRI remember IDG employed some very tewchnical journosSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRI spoke to some of themSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRthey were analyticalSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRnot like simon bisson and other microsoft dronesSep 20 11:17
schestowitz-TRwho do "pizza" on the sideSep 20 11:17
Techrights-sec:(Sep 20 11:18
schestowitz-TR"users are too dumb to make secure code, they need an insecure bloated framework"Sep 20 11:19
schestowitz-TR"good coders don't know how to use plain text email, they need to outsource git to Microsoft"Sep 20 11:19
Techrights-secackSep 20 11:21
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> EFF: "Watch the video on Youtube" (EFF takes bribes from Google) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/how-ditch-facebook-without-losing-your-friends-or-family-customers-or-communities | Source: EFFSep 20 11:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | How to Ditch Facebook Without Losing Your Friends (Or Family, Customers or Communities) | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 20 11:42
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Techrights-secThe could just as easily point to Media Goblin or something more relevantSep 20 11:59
schestowitz-TRyeah, but they don't know what that jisSep 20 12:00
schestowitz-TRcan you review my push?Sep 20 12:00
schestowitz-TRI pushed that to live or rather pulled into itSep 20 12:00
schestowitzhttps://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/20/Shows_Tiling_Window_Managers_and_Late_Night_Linux.shtml  https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Videos_GNOME_Crystal_Linux_and_More.shtmlSep 20 12:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Shows: Tiling Window Managers and Late Night LinuxSep 20 12:00
schestowitz-TRI will give you example URLsSep 20 12:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: GNOME, Crystal Linux, and MoreSep 20 12:00
Techrights-sechttps://mediagoblin.org/pages/tour.htmlSep 20 12:01
Techrights-secand thus collaborate with projects and teams which share some of theirSep 20 12:01
Techrights-secostensible goals.       Sep 20 12:01
Techrights-seccheckingSep 20 12:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mediagoblin.org | MediaGoblinSep 20 12:01
Techrights-secThe iframe formatting seems okSep 20 12:04
schestowitz-TRa) it saves spaceSep 20 12:05
schestowitz-TRbefore: video shown on topSep 20 12:05
schestowitz-TRb) it puts the image next to the linkSep 20 12:05
schestowitz-TRc) shadows if browser supports thatSep 20 12:05
schestowitz-TRthe changes apply 'retroactively' to all prior-posted videosSep 20 12:05
schestowitz-TRtested in falkon and librewolf, will test in quiterss nowSep 20 12:05
Techrights-secThe EFF's media platform choice (or lack thereof) is also a good topic.Sep 20 12:09
schestowitz-TRtested 3 user cases in quiterssSep 20 12:11
schestowitz-TRwill create another use case to test in all browsers I have...Sep 20 12:11
schestowitz-TRre eff, there are much worse things to condemn them forSep 20 12:11
schestowitz-TRusing gulag instead of something else would be "peanuts"Sep 20 12:11
schestowitz-TRand "purist"Sep 20 12:11
schestowitz-TRbiab, testing..Sep 20 12:11
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Techrights-secany movement in the right direction, however slight, is still an improvementSep 20 12:36
Techrights-secover what the EFF is doing nowSep 20 12:36
schestowitz-TRmozilla has hired a new product manager from Facebook and TwitterSep 20 12:37
schestowitz-TREFF is at least advising people to get out of FB Sep 20 12:37
schestowitz-TRin FB and Twitter the product is peopleSep 20 12:37
schestowitz-TRso you can iomagine mozilla no longer views Firefox as the productSep 20 12:37
schestowitz-TRbut as a vehicleSep 20 12:37
schestowitz-TRhe was not their first new executive from FB Sep 20 12:37
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Techrights-secackSep 20 12:52
Techrights-secI would go as far as to say that nearly 100% of the public cannot and does notSep 20 12:52
Techrights-secknow the different between data and program nor has even an inkling of theSep 20 12:52
Techrights-secdifferent between communications program and communications protocol.Sep 20 12:52
Techrights-secI would say that set includes even those that pose as IT "experts" during Sep 20 12:52
Techrights-secthe daytime at their place of employment.  Sep 20 12:52
Techrights-sec^ another topic which needs frequent revisiting as the confusion allows Sep 20 12:52
Techrights-seccapture of markets and services and prevents commoditizationSep 20 12:52
Techrights-secIn the case where something was a commodity (e.g. e-mail) that confusionSep 20 12:52
Techrights-secallows M$, Google, etc to take it over and lock people and standard technologiesSep 20 12:52
Techrights-secout.  Sep 20 12:52
Techrights-secFor example:Sep 20 12:52
Techrights-sechttps://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/inexplicable-email-reject-for-gmail-recipients-and-others-4175716834/Sep 20 12:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/inexplicable-email-reject-for-gmail-recipients-and-others-4175716834/ )Sep 20 12:52
schestowitz-TRgoogle reader and feedburner failed to gives a monopoly over attention and eyesSep 20 12:53
schestowitz-TRthe local art gallery uses a gmail account, not emailSep 20 12:53
schestowitz-TRI noticed it days agoSep 20 12:53
schestowitz-TRthey want a foreign nation to scam all the commsSep 20 12:53
schestowitz-TRfb and gulag wages on "attack" or "war on URLS"Sep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TRso people scroll down throuigh a ton of nonsense and clickbait to find thingsSep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TRinstea Sep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TRif going directly to the stuff of interestSep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TRrss was phased out of gulag/moz softwareSep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TReven thoiugh it was a step forwardSep 20 13:01
Techrights-secYes, there is a move to hide the URLs, starting with the addresses / host namesSep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TRit moreover makes sense when the real clients are advertiosers and toyu want to help them FINDSep 20 13:01
schestowitz-TRtheirt cuistomers rather than let people whoi dsurf the web find what they look forSep 20 13:01
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schestowitz-TRURLs are something "for geeks"Sep 20 13:04
schestowitz-TR"use our app"Sep 20 13:04
Techrights-sec"apps" instead of boookmarks.  Again, there is the confustion between programSep 20 13:04
Techrights-secand data or program and protocolSep 20 13:04
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Techrights-secmoved two scripts to /usr/local/sbin out of /root and added a wrapper scriptSep 20 17:58
Techrights-secthere, tooSep 20 17:58
schestowitz-TRI was gonna mentionSep 20 18:01
schestowitz-TRsometimes the upload script generates a filename that starts with .Sep 20 18:01
schestowitz-TRdue to some parsing issueSep 20 18:01
schestowitz-TRwhich I did not captureSep 20 18:01
schestowitz-TRthe result looks ok except ugly filenamesSep 20 18:01
schestowitz'Sep 20 18:02
schestowitzroy:/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/Features% upload 'https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1484807352052-23338990c6c6?crop=entropy&cs=tinysrgb&fit=max&fm=jpg&ixid=MnwxMTc3M3wwfDF8c2VhcmNofDJ8fHdlYnxlbnwwfHx8fDE2NjM1NzAyNTE&ixlib=rb-1.2.1&q=80&w=600'Sep 20 18:02
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dext in lc at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 248.Sep 20 18:02
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 316.Sep 20 18:02
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 317.Sep 20 18:02
schestowitz% upload 'https://ubports.com/web/image/website/9/logo/UBports?unique=f4b0c2b'Sep 20 18:03
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dext in lc at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 248.Sep 20 18:03
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 316.Sep 20 18:03
schestowitz upload https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjg_5DeWOTvjyTobCW_3RQsLjLY_WEm9WtTTOm1opuUIRto8GJq_zKlVAv3hOdzprKXQ6UjeikMYobbatUGjom0AfPSqV2seqaIJmiLs8ITwC2H5lqgixLWHdudvvgAMd8Y1VGfXvp3CZgnfjyfaSXeretdz1pDVbK1j4Fv2aamDLtdwwxbnflSW0GSfw/s320/Screenshot from 2022-09-19 15-55-59.pngSep 20 18:03
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dext in lc at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 248.Sep 20 18:03
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 316.Sep 20 18:03
schestowitzUse of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 317.Sep 20 18:03
Techrights-secWhen the dot at the start of the file name happens again can you please provideSep 20 18:04
Techrights-secthe URL?  That will make it easier to debug.  Sep 20 18:04
Techrights-secCheckingSep 20 18:04
Techrights-secURL will be needed for that but I have a vague guess. Sep 20 18:04
Techrights-secThanks. Most of that scrolled past, can you do just the URL?  I see where Sep 20 18:14
Techrights-secthe problem is but would need the URL for testing and it may take a bit Sep 20 18:14
Techrights-secto fix if the file name is wonky.  Sep 20 18:14
Techrights-secif the URL is "https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29..." thenSep 20 18:14
Techrights-secthe problem is because of spaces in the file name.  The work-around is to always enclose the URL in quotes, either single quotes or double quotes.Sep 20 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29 )Sep 20 18:14
Techrights-secOtherwise, the "error" occurs in the shell before the script even starts asSep 20 18:19
Techrights-secthe URL gets truncated then.  The script could check for the presence of moreSep 20 18:19
Techrights-secthan a single argument and fail in the case there are two or more.  That mightSep 20 18:19
Techrights-secbe an approach.  Sep 20 18:19
schestowitz-TRit usually happens when there are quotes as wellSep 20 18:21
schestowitz-TRbut I never looked very closelySep 20 18:21
schestowitz-TRas at the end it did make a copy and reizsize itSep 20 18:21
schestowitz-TRbut when the above warning is shown the resultant file is something like .9 or .8 (IIRC)Sep 20 18:21
schestowitz-TRempty string with number appendedSep 20 18:21
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Techrights-secThe spaces alone won't cause the digits preceded with a dot.  So if (when) itSep 20 18:46
Techrights-sechappens again please provide the URL for the offending image name.  Sep 20 18:46
Techrights-secFor now, the script will balk at accepting more than a single argument.Sep 20 18:46
Techrights-secChecking the ubports link...Sep 20 18:46
Techrights-secYep.  That's the offending URL / style of URL.  Sep 20 18:46
Techrights-secChecking.Sep 20 18:46
Techrights-secOk some patches are in place.Sep 20 19:14
schestowitz-TRthanks, I will tell you if I encounter any more errors as they appear/comeSep 20 19:14
schestowitz-TRrianne just told me she had encountered the sameSep 20 19:15
schestowitz-TRgoing to take a napSep 20 19:19
schestowitz-TRyour capsule is offline btwSep 20 19:19
schestowitz-TRback in a bitSep 20 19:19
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Techrights-secAs mentioned the capsule is not in a stable configuration and will be offlineSep 20 20:43
Techrights-secperiodically and unpredictably.  I should take it down completely until suitableSep 20 20:43
Techrights-secsoftware becomes available.  Sep 20 20:43
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