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| schestowitz-TR | ‘COVID Effect’: Almost 20% Increase in England and Wales Deaths in Latest Week’s Data From Office for National Statistics (ONS) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/20/11207-deaths/ | Oct 20 01:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | The perils of selling out gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/19.1 "I was then reminded of the time I sold out [5] to get that sweet-sweet sponsored money (it wasn't much—about $100 for seven ads) and the aftermath five years later [6]." | Oct 20 07:21 |
| techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2009/05/22.1 | Oct 20 07:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah, I did want to follow that links. | Oct 20 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Just did. | Oct 20 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | It's never worth it. | Oct 20 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | His conclusion was that... 13 years ago. | Oct 20 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Did you see the 2 covid-19 posts? I look forward to more data | Oct 20 07:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | we see quire an aftermath, not only here | Oct 20 07:32 |
| techrights-sec | not yet | Oct 20 07:44 |
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| schestowitz-TR | todat at 4pm we get more figures | Oct 20 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but several aspects of them are no longer trustworthy | Oct 20 07:57 |
| techrights-sec | How have the data been made less reliable? | Oct 20 08:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have lost track of the number of different ways, but some places like scotland stopped reporting | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they also changed defintion of what they measure several times | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so in effect they compare apples to orange | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the first video (above) it seems they also tamper with registrations | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and testing levels are very low | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we rely on random samples from ZOE Study or similar | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they suggest we have about 2 million infected per week or at any given time | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are other things, sorry I do not have a more exhaustive list | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | ONSA data on mortality, I think, is a lot harder to fake | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I disregard causes of death and focus on the sums | Oct 20 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | to myself, I rekckon that studying an hour ago studying the situatyion (for myself) is | Oct 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | better than getting very ill for several daya and then dealing with potential long-term effects | Oct 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | on a daily basis, isolation from carriers is mostly a "passave" task | Oct 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | tldr; until you figure out wth is going on, I will minimise the risk | Oct 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they suppressed certain investigations, at least in academic and public sector | Oct 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new "thank you for smoking" is "thank you for returning to the office" (to support The System) | Oct 20 08:13 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 08:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I focus on uk ("close to hom") and countries that report data in ENGLISH, but if figures are more or less homogen | Oct 20 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | eous around thr world (same strains?), then it seems safe to assume 1 in 30 is infected around summertime | Oct 20 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and 1 in 10 during winter | Oct 20 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | a scary statistic (ZOE survey) | Oct 20 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | for comparison's sake, in 2020 we still tested a lot and in summer had about 500 cases in the UK _per day_ | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. one in 100,000 | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it seemed safe to use the sauna and talk face to face to people you knew well | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hear more reports of hospitals being overrun by patients | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | young males dying in large numbers (the stats suggest the same!) | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mind the exodus of underpaid and overworked surses | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's aunt wants to retire already, had an operation to remove a tumour this month | Oct 20 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | weirdest thing is, they literally ship the sample (biopsy) to the United States | Oct 20 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if nowhere in the UK can the tumour tissue be studied | Oct 20 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | like we're some third world country | Oct 20 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | more likely some graft, privatisation contract | Oct 20 08:22 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 08:22 |
| techrights-sec | Graft /and/ privatization | Oct 20 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | sickening to think some company with portfolio and shareholders is issuing congratulatory reports | Oct 20 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | on havins secure an inflow of tumours from the NHS (flown by plane I assume) | Oct 20 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | iow, profiting off the national insurance (NI, taxpayers) | Oct 20 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *having secured | Oct 20 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I noticed that the NHS becomes little but a "contractor" feeder for a slew of private companies | Oct 20 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. when it's spcaialist services rather than GP that checks vital signs, among other basic services | Oct 20 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I'm 40, so cannot compare to his it was, say, in the 70s | Oct 20 08:27 |
| techrights-sec | I suspect the major damage to the NHS was done since 2012 or so. | Oct 20 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like a global wave | Oct 20 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not an "economist" | Oct 20 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think a lot of the commons and public sector get privatised to 'extend the life' of The SYstem | Oct 20 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | because there is "market value" in what is shared joinly by the general population | Oct 20 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they take it away from the population and then sell that "back" to it | Oct 20 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | there used to be MORE reporting on these issues | Oct 20 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now that journalism perishes you're more likely to find a "bill sez" piece | Oct 20 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | than something about scandals impacting the health of nearly 70 million Brits | Oct 20 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of COVID-19 reporting was outsourced to "Microsoft BI" and MOOX | Oct 20 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, this is a good reason to make a copy of liberated (ODF) versions of files | Oct 20 08:38 |
| techrights-sec | There used to be more reporting on all issues. :/ | Oct 20 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | when things get worse and worse you cross the threshold where informed populace isn't tenable with StatusQuo(TM) | Oct 20 08:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | we need to see MOAR posts ("articles" are rare these days) | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | about | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | how 'hacker' 'news' is BS | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Reddit is censorship | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter is manipulation | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so on | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | then, one can hope, alternatives would advance | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Robertson continues to get his 'info' from Reddit "research" (his word) | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | spoonfed by conde nasty moderators | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | curated by clients like billg, microsoft, and icbm | Oct 20 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | TM (and to lesser degress TR; it's not its focus) is a filter for signal | Oct 20 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | no corporate influence, no blind loyalty | Oct 20 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday the maintainer of FOSS Weekly told me he was getting his news from Daily Links | Oct 20 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so what we post (curation) propagates further and trickles down to other sites | Oct 20 08:47 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | Each month it takes a little more work to get the links and the resulting | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | quantity diminishes anyway. There is simply much less material out there. | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | RSS feeds for thousands of blogs help a bit, but that requires lots and lots | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | of manual screening which can't be done in the same way as when visiting | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | mainstream sites. The latter conform to a fairly consistent structure, so | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | once you know the mainstream site you known more or less which strategy to | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | use to skim the document. The blogs are not consistent like that, often | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | not even within a single author's collection of work. However, that is not | Oct 20 08:58 |
| techrights-sec | a bad thing except for the time it costs. | Oct 20 08:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | that is a _fair_ price to pay for not having | Oct 20 08:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) centralisation | Oct 20 08:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) monopolies | Oct 20 08:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) censorship (related to (!) and (2) | Oct 20 08:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | RSS/RDF help standardise the reading a bit | Oct 20 08:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you can leverage a piece of sofwtare to aggregate consistently | Oct 20 08:59 |
| techrights-sec | I expect though that I'll not get off my ass and write a proper RSS reader :/ | Oct 20 09:00 |
| techrights-sec | QuiteRSS is just adequate. It has its good points but overall is merely | Oct 20 09:00 |
| techrights-sec | adequate for the job. It waste too much effort on trying to render crap rather | Oct 20 09:00 |
| techrights-sec | than just showing the text and metadata while farming out more complex work | Oct 20 09:00 |
| techrights-sec | to specialized software like Chromium or Firefox. | Oct 20 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne moved from thunderbird to quiterss | Oct 20 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | we set it to show raw html text for items, unless we press spacebar | Oct 20 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and JS is off always | Oct 20 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes things faster | Oct 20 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wrote some tools like url.sh to help me a bit more | Oct 20 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | using the mouse mostly | Oct 20 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wrote another tool for rianne | Oct 20 09:03 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, are irc logs to be posted later? | Oct 20 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterdayy's had "frog" pendulum due to disk space running out | Oct 20 09:17 |
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| techrights-sec | checking | Oct 20 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks!! | Oct 20 09:27 |
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| techrights-sec | np | Oct 20 09:43 |
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| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 10:08 |
| techrights-sec | They seem to have sold out long ago with no sign of reforming. | Oct 20 10:08 |
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| schestowitz-TR | [10:07] <techrights-news> EFF to corporations and oligarchs (some of whom with EPO vested interests, like many mo | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | nopolies): pay us to decide where to direct public outrage, for corporate and personal gain. Advocacy-as-a-servic | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | e (for the rich). | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they diverge further away over time | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | no posts at all about patents anymore | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | so to me their value diminished a lot | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, LF is a similar business model | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin did an 'interviews' last month where he semi-admitted companies like Gulag basically | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | pay him to dictate tech trends and promote/advocacy things like kubernetes | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF does this... for a fee | Oct 20 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | nowadays LF is shilling "secure core" | Oct 20 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "condifential computing"(TM) | Oct 20 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | sigstore ("sorry, you can't run this file!" CAs for binaries...) | Oct 20 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | other crap | Oct 20 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | we must call them out on it | Oct 20 10:12 |
| techrights-sec | Yes, "secure core" is shutting the door on general-purpose computing and | Oct 20 10:23 |
| techrights-sec | maybe a single step away from subsqeuently turning the lock on that door. | Oct 20 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | my video responses ranted about phoronix just reprinting slides sent to him as if he was "Analyst" | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to do gratis propaganda for Microsot | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I lost all respect for him | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a rush to maintain 10 posts/day he starts copypasta of marketing brochures | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and turning 2-line git commits into extensive 'articles' that say nothing at all, just like to prior | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | phoronix articles for "engagement" | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 lines of code, not two-line git commit message | Oct 20 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | /s/like/link to prior...' | Oct 20 10:26 |
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| techrights-sec | Copying brochures or reposting slides is marketing not related to journalism | Oct 20 10:41 |
| techrights-sec | or even tech, regardless of the alleged content. | Oct 20 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | media kits or "guest" BS (like the one sean conner fell for) is seductive to the Spamnils of the worl | Oct 20 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | or drpizza reprinting shit for microsoft | Oct 20 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | because there is minimal effort | Oct 20 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but better to post nothing than to 'dilute' the signal with garbage | Oct 20 10:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR | i see names of family members in some recipes | Oct 20 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not the mother | Oct 20 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | today we used two tomato soups we got discounted as paste sauce | Oct 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pasta | Oct 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | ½ does not get interpreted correctly in gemini | Oct 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does plain unicode | Oct 20 12:47 |
| techrights-sec | Oh. | Oct 20 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon a lot of money can be saved (for later) by preparing stuff at home | Oct 20 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not talking about "eating out" but all that "prepared" food on shelves | Oct 20 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the underlying ingredients are much cheaper and can be bought without unwanted preservatives and plastics | Oct 20 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've been checking routes outwards lately, esp. for winter | Oct 20 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems premature for any kind of gym | Oct 20 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | #s at 4pm today | Oct 20 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | was checking the lemon pie as we still have w+ bags of lemons | Oct 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I bought them half price | Oct 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | eggs have become more expensive for 6 than we used to buy 15 for | Oct 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | so any dish with eggs in it changed in cost | Oct 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but rianne finds some discounted sometimes, i.e. same as "old" price | Oct 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | milk is also very expensive, but at discounted rates it can be old price or less | Oct 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | what she used to find in 3-4 stores a year ago this year she can barely find by visiting 11 (nearby) | Oct 20 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the radius of search expanded a bit | Oct 20 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | i reckon these fixes should be typed up as "sed" hacks, then chained for future pages | Oct 20 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:59] <techrights-news> What a weird think for a BROWSER company to be posting https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/midterms-2022-election-prep/ | Oct 20 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Prep for the U.S. midterm elections with these online tools | Oct 20 12:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR | those are so hard to find that I don't think we ever found them on discount | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | we most go to small, empty stores | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the large ones have too many people (or had them recently) | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence high riskf | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | first line of defence is good diet | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | second line of defence is keeping certain viruses away | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and atm the saying "humans are the lice of the planet" seems applicable | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. those who act as if deaths are not 20% higher than before | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | (forgot to mention: small stores = high prices, UNLESS discounted) | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "smart" shopping lowers a GOOD diet from 10pp/day to 3 | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or 600 per month (good items, not bread and jam) to under 200 | Oct 20 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | -- | Oct 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't go into lidl for ages | Oct 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they pissed off rianne when they insisted that she ues a machine | Oct 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even closed an already-open till in the process | Oct 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they can go *** themselves | Oct 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | we get much better service at the small store and usually no queues | Oct 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | (rianne left the basket there, like I taught her... I hope this was reported to the higher "chain of command") | Oct 20 13:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the managers will "register the message" when more people abandon baskets if the queues become too long | Oct 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and possibly express themselves, clarifying why they are leaving | Oct 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | some stores here moved to all machines, then WENT BACK to manned tills | Oct 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | even some big chains | Oct 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | IOW, it was a failure | Oct 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're been experimenting with this BS for over a decade here | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they tell the dumb doormen (yes, they usually ARE dumb... just some "gym heroes") | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | to try to direct people to machines when they stand in the line | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | expressing no interest in machines | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | so doorman role becomes doorman slash nagger | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | while they ask tioll workings to also stock shelves and stuff to abandon tills | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | *till workers | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | so sometimes nobody stands there until you use body language and maybe utter something | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are 'crowdsourcing' the employment to UNPAID workers (customers) | Oct 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'gig economy' at zero rate | Oct 20 13:36 |
| techrights-sec | Yes they are trying to turn customers into unpaid workers with zero overhead. | Oct 20 13:38 |
| techrights-sec | The "gig economy" is nothing but a rip-off for all involved even the assholes | Oct 20 13:38 |
| techrights-sec | who think they are benefiting from it. | Oct 20 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | a very long time ago I came to the conclusion we can win this fight only if we convince others to join us | Oct 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to convince their friends too to do the same | Oct 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point where these tills become a waste of space, maintenance overhead, and source of unhappy | Oct 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | customers | Oct 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | this will not only make better service | Oct 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll protect the jobs of people who are already financially vulnerable | Oct 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am now recalling having a chat with a bank teller about 7 years ago | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I told her I used the service also to protect her job | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they are like robots | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | repeating what the boss tells them to tell us | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, "don't worry, they will give the staff other tasks" | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | easy to debunk | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | years down the line the same bank has only 1.5 branches in the whole of town | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they "consolidated" | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | long queues and unhelpful staff that won't even print an a4 sheet of paper without asking shit | Oct 20 13:44 |
| techrights-sec | https://dilbert.com/strip/2016-02-25 | Oct 20 13:44 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, did you try the web site? "you got the app?" | Oct 20 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Asok The Uber Driver - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2016-02-25 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Oct 20 13:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | so these people who were unhelpful years ago are not out of a job | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they didn't dare challenge the boss | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they play "safe" | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they ended up broke | Oct 20 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | in M&S I confronted the boss | Oct 20 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | when he intervened after a staff member opened a till to serve us | Oct 20 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | that shop went downhill | Oct 20 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I made it very clear to him that his worker was very good | Oct 20 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that his attitude put us off | Oct 20 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | we just left the basket there | Oct 20 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | sudo make me an app (sandwich) | Oct 20 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the FSF should start some campaign against crApp | Oct 20 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | or maybe not... | Oct 20 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | do they hhave any ongoing campaigns at all? | Oct 20 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | regarding firings, there are ways to 'terrorise' companies | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | for firing good staff | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sit-ins | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | example: | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | "where is john? he did good service for me..." | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they fire good workers, you make a complains to the boss of the boss | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | about people who helped bring business | Oct 20 13:53 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | being driven away | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the lower boss starts to realise there is risk associated with firing good workers | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | in our company, rianne and I are valued because people know how long we've been around | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gave decent service | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | this means firing us is barely an option | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | (so far) | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | another, more positive approach is to identify till workers or tellers who do a good job | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and signal to the shop/bank managers that you like them | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you fortify their standing | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's easier to do somewhere like the gym because people know each others' faces | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I once campaigned for someone to be hired by the gym (kieran) by asking other members to drop by the office and | Oct 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | say a good word about him | Oct 20 13:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it has occurred to me that all this "put microphones and net-connected cameras everywhere" | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | BS can, in due course, be used in effort to automate collective informants, enforcement, punishment | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they will just call it "HEY HI" or assistanted | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | too many people already carry tracking devices and covid-19 panic accelerated the trend | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "no cash accepted" | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe I think too far aheads | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | cops are not predictable | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can also have compassion sometimes | Oct 20 14:13 |
| techrights-sec | New cars apparently have a multitude of both, inside and out. | Oct 20 14:13 |
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| schestowitz-TR | new cars is like a taxi with microphones and cctv in it | Oct 20 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | except in your own car they also know your name and lots more | Oct 20 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the tracking of cars can be "sold" to the public as "traffic control" and "environment" | Oct 20 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. if every new car must have GPS receiver somewhere and requires "apps" and stuff | Oct 20 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | "smartphones" also have GPS and most "apps" seem to require full access to the | Oct 20 14:37 |
| techrights-sec | GPS data. | Oct 20 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | already discused in irc for 30 mins: uk pm resigned | Oct 20 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | only last night I asked rianne about it | Oct 20 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | what billbc "sez" | Oct 20 14:38 |
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| techrights-sec | Will the replacement be yet worse? | Oct 20 15:38 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | chuck windsor | Oct 20 15:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I think I've neatly refined the way I do clustering of news in TM | Oct 20 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | a workflow I only recently experimented with | Oct 20 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | now checking nhs #s | Oct 20 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | then, I need topic :-0 | Oct 20 16:09 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:01] <MinceR> https://nitter.it/Alan_McGuinness/status/1582780559989739522 | Oct 20 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:01] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Alan McGuinness (@Alan_McGuinness): "My son has lived through four chancellors, three home secretaries, two prime ministers and two monarchs. He's four months old."|nitter.it | Oct 20 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Alan McGuinness (@Alan_McGuinness): "My son has lived through four chancellors, three home secretaries, two prime ministers and two monarchs. He's four months old."|nitter.it | Oct 20 16:10 | |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 16:11 |
| techrights-sec | Well it seems that EFF is promoting Facebook for some things. | Oct 20 16:11 |
| techrights-sec | Yep | Oct 20 16:11 |
| techrights-sec | Some of the old stuff was misguided, too, choosing to play whac-a-mole | Oct 20 16:11 |
| techrights-sec | instead of going after the cause | Oct 20 16:11 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.eff.org/issues/patent-busting-project | Oct 20 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Patent Busting Project | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 20 16:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR | EFF being shit if hardly even news anymorea | Oct 20 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and kaniini noticed the same and asked me about them | Oct 20 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | crazy matt seems happy to meet the coup plotters there | Oct 20 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | there seems to be overlap in agenda | Oct 20 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe even cross-coordination | Oct 20 16:12 |
| techrights-sec | Here's an old link again: | Oct 20 16:12 |
| techrights-sec | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/2021-we-fought-more-open-balanced-patent-system | Oct 20 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Fighting For A More Open, Balanced Patent System: 2021 in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 20 16:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR | to eff's credit, later it did "lobby" in favour os better uspto (it lways ignored epo) | Oct 20 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even named swpats sometimes | Oct 20 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the people who did this no longer post there | Oct 20 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess the funding for this campaigning ran out | Oct 20 16:14 |
| techrights-sec | Ok that lobbying might be a topic even if it is just to lament its absence | Oct 20 16:14 |
| techrights-sec | from current EFF activities | Oct 20 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, yes, going through their web site on video to make a point | Oct 20 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and noting epo apathy | Oct 20 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | in short, today's eff does not step on the toes of large US corporations (private sector) | Oct 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and instead focuses on the public sector, which includes politics | Oct 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | just getting off someone's "side" or barking up some other tree is enough | Oct 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | to please some companies that pay or "partner with" EFF | Oct 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have 4 topics written down now | Oct 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Oct 20 16:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | COVID-19 in England in October (10): Over 10 Thousand in Hospital, Over a Thousand Admitted Per Day, Over 10% Testing Positive (PCR) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/20/england-october-2022/ | Oct 20 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 in England in October (10): Over 10 Thousand in Hospital, Over a Thousand Admitted Per Day, Over 10% Testing Positive (PCR) | Oct 20 16:39 | |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:41] <techrights-news> In 2022 (October) we have twice as many COVID-19 admissions to hospital in England compared to the same period one year ago (after we had lifted all restrictions). This is NOT an improvement! | Oct 20 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | gov policy: make the portal "covid" "look good".. | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | putin does not need to worry about lawmakers working to oust him | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | if such lawmakers existed, they would cease to exist | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe putin sends out drones to check where the sauna is good and where there's more water for it | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case he wants to embark on winter holiday andnd drink in a tank | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | or drink the tank to get warmer | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | tank of water | Oct 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | or oil | Oct 20 16:45 |
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| schestowitz-TR | England official data shows we have more COVID-19 deaths so far in October than the same month a year ago. We've improved in NO WAY, other than pretending the problem is "old"... | Oct 20 16:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:47] <techrights-news> ‘COVID Effect’: Almost 20% Increase in England and Wales Deaths in Latest Week’s Data From Office for National Statistics (ONS) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/20/11207-deaths/ | Oct 20 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ‘COVID Effect’: Almost 20% Increase in England and Wales Deaths in Latest Week’s Data From Office for National Statistics (ONS) | Oct 20 16:48 | |
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| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 16:51 |
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| schestowitz-TR | did a 47-min video on eff | Oct 20 18:43 |
| techrights-sec | ack | Oct 20 18:43 |
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