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| schestowitz | [01:05] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Hi. I'm xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Because of the shitty xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx UI, I seem to have truncated my password | Jun 23 04:49 |
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| schestowitz | [01:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Can you change it to "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" so I can change it properly? | Jun 23 04:49 |
| schestowitz | [05:25] <schestowitz> hi | Jun 23 04:49 |
| schestowitz | [05:26] <schestowitz> did you register a username and want it re-registered? | Jun 23 04:49 |
| schestowitz | [05:50] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yes | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [05:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I want to change the password | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [05:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> nickserv has a command to change another's password | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [07:13] <schestowitz> I will check | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [07:14] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> thx | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [08:18] <schestowitz> btw, deblanc just lost her job | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [08:19] <schestowitz> i am speaking to an associate who knows ergoirc syntax a bit better than me, I don't want to risk breaking the thing | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [12:27] <schestowitz> try /quote nickserv help passwd | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [12:27] <schestowitz> if you have the privileges | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <schestowitz> if not, I can try to do this for you | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:25] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I tried PASSWD <username> <new> yesterday, and it didn't work | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:25] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Since I don't know my password, PASSWD <current> <new> <new> doesn't work either | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> It's not simply truncated (I didn't understand that xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx was intentionally hiding what I was typing and may have entered it twice or something) | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MSG(nickserv): passwd xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx … | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> NickServ (NickServ@irc.techrights.org): Insufficient privileges | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:29] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> just try /msg NickServ passwd xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:00] <schestowitz> done! | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [17:08] <xxxxx> thanks, it worked | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [17:09] <schestowitz> ":-) | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [03:57] <xxxx> In 2018, Sarah Mei (Salesforce) attacked the term "domain-driven design" for being abbreviated "DDD" which is also a breast size (not mentioned in Wiktionary and not the first definition in Urban Dictionary) | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | [04:49] <schestowitz> now I feel safer | Jun 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | <xxxx> because it's so stupid? | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | >>> Magdalen's comeback was brilliant. Molly is the Zombie. | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | >>> https://twitter.com/mmillions/status/1407001328379965449 | Jun 23 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mmillions: Okay I am now unemployed for real. What are your favorite free or cheap NYC activities? | Jun 23 05:01 | |
| schestowitz | >> | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | >> I cannot see such a comment, but with Twitter you never can tell for | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | >> sure what's hidden from you... | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > Odd, I just clicked the link again and it works, she did not make it | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > private. I do not have a Twitter account so I am accessing it anonymously. | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, it appears to be true as other people already started to gossip | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > I do not want to speculate about a reason. Maybe they just found the | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > women in other countries are cheaper. Sam Tuke from PHPList has | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > apparently hired some of the girls in Albania. Four women there and | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > office rent are cheaper than one woman in NYC or Boston: | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.phplist.org/phplist-hack-sprint-in-albania/ | Jun 23 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phplist.org | phpList Hack Sprint in Albania | phpList.org | Jun 23 05:01 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > "our contributors got to translate phpList to Albanian (all in one night | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > :D)" | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > Ignoring all the scandal stuff, some of these deals do make sense from | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > an economic perspective if the money pays for development instead of | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > long-haul flights. | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | I know Sam personally. He is or was here. | Jun 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > Looks like they removed her very suddenly: | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > https://foundation.gnome.org/team/ | Jun 23 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-foundation.gnome.org | Our Team – The GNOME Foundation | Jun 23 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > If Molly had to go, why does Neil keep his job? Neil actually made more | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > commits than Molly in the open letter repository in Github: | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/graphs/contributors | Jun 23 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | Contributors to rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io · GitHub | Jun 23 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > Old page from May 2021: | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > https://web.archive.org/web/20210519182438/https://foundation.gnome.org/team/ | Jun 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 23 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Our Team – The GNOME Foundation | Jun 23 05:06 | |
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| schestowitz | verbose: maybe we should add these to scrollback? | Jun 23 05:43 |
| schestowitz | thoughts? | Jun 23 05:43 |
| schestowitz | I was thinking how to use sort to merge with timestamp and all.. | Jun 23 05:44 |
| verbose | I don't know, I haven't looked at this channel much. | Jun 23 05:45 |
| verbose | Is there an easy way to download the digests? | Jun 23 05:46 |
| verbose | Without writing own scripts to process the lists. | Jun 23 05:47 |
| verbose | I need to learn to write vimscripts (again?), but it's for a different reason that wouldn't save that much time anyway. | Jun 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | what do you mean by "digests"? | Jun 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | we have daily bulletins | Jun 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday's bulletin: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-22.txt | Jun 23 06:16 |
| verbose | I really mean the stuff listed in the lists linked at http://techrights.org/ipfs/ , but I guess it's easier to only pin, but download using wget | Jun 23 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 23 07:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://securitybrief.com.au/story/veracode-soss-report-significant-open-source-security-gap-for-vendors-and-users | Jun 23 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securitybrief.com.au | Veracode SoSS report: Significant open-source security gap for vendors and users | Jun 23 07:58 | |
| schestowitz | spam | Jun 23 07:58 |
| schestowitz | Veracode spam | Jun 23 07:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that suggestion from you (yesterday) worked | Jun 23 08:48 |
| schestowitz | we managed to gradually bring the key people in here... much of what's left behind is less critical to us. | Jun 23 08:48 |
| schestowitz | Also, the people online in LC:#tr don't say a thing | Jun 23 08:48 |
| schestowitz | zoobab is of value though | Jun 23 08:48 |
| schestowitz | regarding s/n ratio, a lot of the OT stuff has been relayed to -social, which I think is very good | Jun 23 08:49 |
| schestowitz | I'll speak to zoobab about coming here | Jun 23 08:49 |
| acer-box____ | https://nitter.actionsack.com/AbuAbdulAziz_A1/status/1407597578540273665#m | Jun 23 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.actionsack.com | أحمد سعيد ذياب (@AbuAbdulAziz_A1): "يمكن الاطلاع على قائمة بيانات شاملة وجدول زمني لجميع المخالفات المتعلقة بمؤسسة بيل غيتس http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique" | nitter | Jun 23 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | shown in tmux is some evidence related to "video" usage, roughly 31k accessed video files in the past 3 days, though we did not manage to publish many videos at all. today I had major major issues with pulseaudio, had to false restart it -- something I never did in the past | Jun 23 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | Do any of the static site generators also have the option for Gemini, parallel | Jun 23 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | to WWW? | Jun 23 09:26 |
| schestowitz | kaniini mentioned last night that going static at some stage, with gemini too, would be great for moving towards alpine, not worrying about DBs and php and other such technical debt -- a term used by kaniini as well | Jun 23 09:27 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220621.html#tJun%2022%2012:19:21 | Jun 23 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 | Jun 23 09:28 | |
| Techrights-sec | Static would have lots of advantages. The back end could run a RPi and | Jun 23 09:41 |
| Techrights-sec | the front end could too. It would be a /lot/ easier to distribute and | Jun 23 09:41 |
| Techrights-sec | load-balance | Jun 23 09:41 |
| schestowitz | I think that in the coming years we'll see more case studies and tooling to that effect. already, quite a few free sw blogs move off wordpress/drupal and onto things that are simpler to manage, esp. for small sites. so we might need some patience. | Jun 23 09:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Any commenting would have to take place on IRC instead, but comments are | Jun 23 09:46 |
| Techrights-sec | several problems if that capability is on the WWW. I'd say just IRC is enough. | Jun 23 09:46 |
| Techrights-sec | If it's not metioned prominently on the page(s) linking to the TR IRC network, | Jun 23 09:46 |
| Techrights-sec | the fact that the IP addresses are not posted in the channel is important. | Jun 23 09:46 |
| schestowitz | we configured IRCD accordingly. So did freenode when they rebooted (wiped) the whole system in their stupid overhaul that now occasionally locks me out. Comments inside articles can hurt the articles, esp. on controversial subjects. I wanted to say something else of importance, but forgot.... | Jun 23 09:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok, both networks fixing the IP address leak is a good thing. | Jun 23 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | In geneneral I would be in strong favor of comments on the web pages, but | Jun 23 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | the established practice /everywhere/ is not to allow them, they are | Jun 23 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | a /lot/ of effort for something that is redundant with IRC, and lastly | Jun 23 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | (like you mention) it's easy for trolls to post comments and then a-holes | Jun 23 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | to complain about the comments elsewhere. That last point is stupid, but | Jun 23 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | society has become even more stupid, on average, than it used to be. | Jun 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz | We did received a lot of comments in the distant past. They became a liability at times and now only longtime accounts (registered ages ago) can comment. | Jun 23 09:54 |
| schestowitz | *receive | Jun 23 09:54 |
| schestowitz | from page title and <h1> of html IRC logs I have just removed "FreeNode" and say Techrights IRC Network. This is where it is logged from now. I hope this does not cause or introduce bugs in tomorrow's cron run. | Jun 23 09:58 |
| Techrights-sec | Jun 23 10:56 | |
| Techrights-sec | Thus those tricks complaining about third-party comments work. | Jun 23 10:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: good | Jun 23 14:27 |
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| Techrights-sec | from a signature seen on a mailing list message: | Jun 23 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec | "PS: Your blog doesn't need a comments section. People should quote, link, and comment on their own blogs instead of exp | Jun 23 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec | ecting you to provide them a soapbox." | Jun 23 17:33 |
| schestowitz | I said that about how blogging used to be before social control media | Jun 23 17:33 |
| schestowitz | in tmux you can see an ongoing (sporadic) ddos pattern and response to it, which might be remotely related to some irc 'revenge, based on the timing | Jun 23 17:47 |
| Techrights-sec | can the mitigations be automated without creating a DoS on their own? | Jun 23 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec | The rate at which the requests are comming in should not be a problem, | Jun 23 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec | or is it? | Jun 23 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec | They are just trickling in at the moment. | Jun 23 18:06 |
| schestowitz | it is OK for now | Jun 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz | I've added a comment for you in tmux, I need to go prepare some food. the comment is in .htaccess | Jun 23 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 23 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec | \ | Jun 23 18:36 |
| schestowitz | I think the key is preventing downtime (or "success"). The IRC logs will show why I'm totally distracted today, here and there... this weekend I'm off work, so will catch up | Jun 23 18:37 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok. This weekend is a major holiday anyway. | Jun 23 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I didn't even know... | Jun 23 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/at2rty/status/1407802273548455938 | Jun 23 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz https://t.co/EA2oh0mApu | Jun 23 23:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Shoshana Zuboff on surveillance capitalism | VPRO Documentary - YouTube | Jun 23 23:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1407742427641876488 | Jun 23 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "the executive branch guidance which Republican U.S. presidents have used for nearly four decades to cut off access… https://t.co/GelU7CC71I | Jun 23 23:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "the executive branch guidance which Republican U.S. presidents have used for nearly four decades to cut off access… https://t.co/GelU7CC71I | Jun 23 23:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | "the executive branch guidance which Republican | Jun 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | U.S. presidents have used for nearly four decades to cut off access to reproductive healthcare around the world." | Jun 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1407691017713770497 | Jun 23 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: How come this is 'an abuse of human rights' in Botwswana but 'standard operating security procedure' in Israel? https://t.co/qoqlH1NW47 | Jun 23 23:05 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Supreme Court Ruled Against Enslaved Children Even as US Celebrated #Juneteenth https://t.co/xlDf9Vg44e | Jun 23 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | "How come this is 'an abuse of human rights' in Botwswana but 'standard operating security procedure' in Israel?" | Jun 23 23:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/templemore85/status/1407653658376945668 | Jun 23 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@templemore85: @schestowitz Sen, Ron Johnson is gunning for them. | Jun 23 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrbrtson/status/1407653633873825796 | Jun 23 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrbrtson: @schestowitz I've always thought admirably of Apple, but having watched their massive success over the years combin… https://t.co/JNOSg5Fijb | Jun 23 23:05 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrbrtson: @schestowitz I've always thought admirably of Apple, but having watched their massive success over the years combin… https://t.co/JNOSg5Fijb | Jun 23 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I've always thought admirably of Apple, but having watched their massive success over the years combined with questionable business practices involving manufacturing conditions in China, it's about time they had their wings clipped." | Jun 23 23:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrbrtson/status/1407653633873825796 | Jun 23 23:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1407622973536755713 | Jun 23 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: this is looking bad https://t.co/djcpmtBCU1 | Jun 23 23:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Express #Afghanistan ☞ Afghan carnage as #Taliban storm two cities after #Biden withdrew troops- ‘Panic e… https://t.co/AI3zQB3fPv | Jun 23 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1407626660200030211 | Jun 23 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: not good https://t.co/8oILnQTYQa | Jun 23 23:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #dawn #Afghanistan #asia ☞ #Taliban capture Afghanistan's main Tajikistan border crossing https://t.co/Qccyc9JnCe | Jun 23 23:06 | |
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