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schestowitzhi prawn / prawnsaald just wanted to extend a HUGE thank-you for the work and to also ask if it's still possible to upload a background image for the welcome screen of "nextclient" from within account settings  ... in my case, myclients/30927/Techrights/settingsDec 23 05:04
schestowitztrying to customise everything...Dec 23 05:05
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*Disconnected (Connection timed out).Dec 23 09:31
*Now talking on #boycottnovellDec 23 09:32
*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-socialDec 23 09:32
*Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021Dec 23 09:32
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schestowitz-TR2two thingsDec 23 10:11
schestowitz-TR21) earlier this morning our network (server) had a 10-min outage. still less than aws.Dec 23 10:11
schestowitz-TR22) what should our position on fsfe be?Dec 23 10:11
schestowitz-TR2(I don't; want to destroy them, they still do some good things)Dec 23 10:11
Techrights-sec2afkDec 23 10:12
Techrights-sec21) ack, I noticed that the connection was broken but it came back quicklyDec 23 10:12
Techrights-sec22) it should be measured, but I would say that they probably ought to changeDec 23 10:12
Techrights-sec2the name.  Yes, many of the things they do are good, but far from all.Dec 23 10:12
schestowitz-TR2OK, thanks for thatinput, we need to budget our time to dealDec 23 10:12
schestowitz-TR2with great threts and more urgent thingsDec 23 10:12
schestowitz-TR2sometimes barking without biting can discourage further bad behaviourDec 23 10:12
Techrights-sec2ackDec 23 10:12
Techrights-sec2sometimesDec 23 10:12
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schestowitz-TR2I think the approach is conditional love or tough love (I prefer the former terms). Commend them when they do sometimes good, condemn when they do something negative, then hope they will do less of the latter, over time, to maintain cleaner reputation and balance sheetDec 23 10:16
schestowitz-TR2it pains me because I used to know people from thereDec 23 10:16
Techrights-sec2ackDec 23 10:18
schestowitz__[TR]x https://www.zdnet.com/article/programming-languages-how-python-is-building-a-developer-community-of-millions/#ftag=RSSbaffb68Dec 23 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.zdnet.com | Programming languages: How Python is building a developer community of millions | ZDNetDec 23 10:22
Techrights-sec2back in a bitDec 23 10:23
schestowitz-TR2just fyi (not a complaint or anything ;-) :D): in other links sometimes, maybe once a month and last seen yesterday, the same links would be posted twice, I assume a copy-paste oopsie. Today, as once or twice before, my joindiapora url (profile) was includedDec 23 10:25
Techrights-sec2backDec 23 10:45
Techrights-sec2yeah, the "other" links are not checked in any meaningful way, they areDec 23 10:45
Techrights-sec2just for information anywayDec 23 10:45
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schestowitz__[TR]=Dec 23 10:48
schestowitz__[TR]old:Dec 23 10:48
schestowitz__[TR]https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/XWiki/JessicaIavaroneDec 23 10:48
schestowitz__[TR]# blocked by javascriptDec 23 10:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.opensource.org | Profile of Jessica Iavarone - XWikiDec 23 10:48
schestowitz__[TR]=Dec 23 10:49
schestowitz__[TR]old:Dec 23 10:49
schestowitz__[TR]https://opensource.org/volunteersandstaffDec 23 10:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensource.org | Volunteers & Staff | Open Source InitiativeDec 23 10:49
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Techrights-sec2https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/12/22/december-2021-web-server-survey.htmlDec 23 11:19
Techrights-sec2I think you've read that one already.  M4 is basically gone, even from Dec 23 11:19
Techrights-sec2the "all sites" category.  Dec 23 11:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | December 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsDec 23 11:19
schestowitz-TR2this became a node title in TM and a post title (Daily Links) in TR. Worth doing another video about? I did many long ones about netcraft, can do anotherDec 23 11:20
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Techrights-sec2https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-202011-202111Dec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2if one includes tables, mobile, etc, then M$ is hovering just above 30%Dec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2Probably worth mentioning so as to drive home the point  The Netcraft reportsDec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2have a lot of interesting hints about other HTTP servers but no details.Dec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2Nginx is clearly eating the market, but lots of small projects are becomingDec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2visible also.Dec 23 11:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsDec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2For example, the "top million busiest sites" have moved to "other" ahead of Dec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2both Apache2 and NginxDec 23 11:27
Techrights-sec2I suppose Flask and such are there in "other" but Netcraft does not say.Dec 23 11:27
schestowitz-TR2+1Dec 23 11:30
schestowitz-TR2I am going to record a video in a few minsDec 23 11:30
schestowitz-TR2I will mention gemini, www, and what you found in the statsDec 23 11:30
schestowitz-TR2but the point to take home is, WEB servers are not the only game in townDec 23 11:30
Techrights-sec2Yes, and another is that WWW != Internet, and that social control media Dec 23 11:31
Techrights-sec2*is not* the WWW.  It gets tiring having to repeat those points.  Since Dec 23 11:31
Techrights-sec2fewer and fewer people understand that, I wonder if there is another wayDec 23 11:31
Techrights-sec2to get the point across.  Dec 23 11:31
Techrights-sec2yesDec 23 11:40
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schestowitz-TR2recordded 40+ mins in spite of trying to keep it conciseDec 23 12:33
Techrights-sec2ackDec 23 12:37
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schestowitz-TR2rough first draft in place, video still processingDec 23 13:18
schestowitz-TR2you can have a read Dec 23 13:54
Techrights-sec2"Its about hierarchy or topology" -> "Its about hierarchy or control." ??Dec 23 13:56
Techrights-sec2Some stats on the mail servers would help.  Many, very wrongly, assume thatDec 23 13:56
Techrights-sec2M$ has high marketshare there.  Dec 23 13:56
schestowitz-TR2i wondered the same but never saw pie chartsDec 23 13:56
Techrights-sec2http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.202101/mxsurvey.html Dec 23 13:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.securityspace.com | Mail (MX) Server SurveyDec 23 13:57
Techrights-sec2Microsoft       1,690   0.31%Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2Exim    332,908 60.28% Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2Postfix 179,315 32.47%Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2...Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2There's a long tail of oddball mail servers, M$ being among them.  Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.202111/mxsurvey.htmlDec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2more recently ^Dec 23 14:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.securityspace.com | Mail (MX) Server SurveyDec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2Microsoft       1,364   0.26%Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2Exim    306,492 59.52%Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2Postfix 172,824 33.56%Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2...Dec 23 14:00
Techrights-sec2there's a bit of variation back and forth with exim and postfix, but Dec 23 14:05
Techrights-sec2I mean there's a bit of variation up and down with exim and postfix, butDec 23 14:05
Techrights-sec2their relative positions are stable.  Strangely there are about 3.5 % usingDec 23 14:05
Techrights-sec2sendmail still.  Those must be *old* sites.Dec 23 14:05
schestowitz-TR2ok, refresh draft page, see footnoteDec 23 14:10
Techrights-sec2probably ellipsis between the M$ lines and the postfix+exim block, thereDec 23 14:12
Techrights-sec2are others in between as M$ is part ofthe long tail  Dec 23 14:12
Techrights-sec2of oddball mail serversDec 23 14:12
schestowitz-TR2I have just rewarded the first sentence a littleDec 23 14:12
Techrights-sec2ackDec 23 14:13
schestowitz-TR2reoiwrdedDec 23 14:13
schestowitz-TR2rewordedDec 23 14:13
Techrights-sec2also expand on the remark about Windows being less efficient and requiringDec 23 14:17
Techrights-sec2more M$ systems in order to get the same level of service as with regularDec 23 14:17
Techrights-sec2systems.Dec 23 14:17
Techrights-sec2buying relevance also includes M$ Teams, I presumeDec 23 14:19
Techrights-sec2https://web.archive.org/web/20200804174709/https://news.microsoft.com/2007/08/29/microsoft-to-acquire-parlano/Dec 23 14:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Microsoft to Acquire Parlano - StoriesDec 23 14:19
schestowitz-TR2"FAST:>Dec 23 14:20
schestowitz-TR2What was therir nameDec 23 14:20
schestowitz-TR2Noirwegian company?Dec 23 14:20
Techrights-sec2Trolltech was the only Norwegian company that comes to mind but that is not Dec 23 14:21
Techrights-sec2related to this topic (AFAIK)Dec 23 14:21
schestowitz__[TR]nm, I was thinking of search https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-sells-off-part-of-its-fast-enterprise-search-acquisition/Dec 23 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft sells off part of its FAST enterprise-search acquisition | ZDNetDec 23 14:22
Techrights-sec2https://web.archive.org/web/20200804174709/https://news.microsoft.com/2007/08https://www.socialmediatoday.com/content/mindalign-im-alignment-you-needDec 23 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20200804174709/https://news.microsoft.com/2007/08https://www.socialmediatoday.com/content/mindalign-im-alignment-you-need )Dec 23 14:22
Techrights-sec2I almost recall.  ... thinking ...Dec 23 14:23
schestowitz__[TR]https://web.archive.org/web/20200804174709/https://news.microsoft.com/2007/08 https://www.socialmediatoday.com/content/mindalign-im-alignment-you-needDec 23 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | August | 2007 | News CenterDec 23 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.socialmediatoday.com | MindAlign, the IM alignment you need | Social Media TodayDec 23 14:23
Techrights-sec2https://techcrunch.com/2008/07/03/did-the-enron-of-norway-pull-a-fast-one-on-microsoft-more-details-about-the-mess-at-fast-search-transfer/Dec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2The question of debt loading makes some of these acquisitions quite intriguingDec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2The destruction of Mojang was obviously to keep a generation of kids off of Dec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2GNU/Linux by locking out Minecraft.  Other than that, they'll never recoverDec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2their large investment (purchase price) on that one.  However, many of the Dec 23 14:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techcrunch.com | Did the "Enron of Norway" Pull a Fast One On Microsoft? More Details About the Mess at Fast Search & Transfer – TechCrunchDec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2others were probably bought with two purposes in mind, 1) crush a smallDec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2potential competitor early on, 2) offload massive debt.Dec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2https://techcrunch.com/2008/07/03/did-the-enron-of-norway-pull-a-fast-one-on-microsoft-more-details-about-the-meDec 23 14:29
Techrights-sec2https://www.businessinsider.com/microsofts-15-biggest-acquisitions-and-what-happened-to-them-2011-3    Dec 23 14:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft: the 15 Biggest Acquisitions and What Happened to ThemDec 23 14:29
schestowitz-TR2adding another footnoteDec 23 14:34
schestowitz-TR2see first footnoteDec 23 14:43
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Techrights-sec2ellipsis still neededDec 23 14:52
Techrights-sec2for clarityDec 23 14:52
schestowitz-TR2i do not wish to edit their image. I added the numbers anywauDec 23 14:52
Techrights-sec2should be plain text though?Dec 23 15:06
schestowitz-TR2cleaned up many typos and published. There might still be typos. gemini will poicm up the figuresDec 23 15:06
Techrights-sec2<p>In numbers:</p>Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2<pre>Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2Exim       60.28%Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2Postfix    32.47%Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2. . .Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2Microsoft  0.31%Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2</pre>Dec 23 15:11
Techrights-sec2back in a bitDec 23 15:11
schestowitz-TR2now I know what you meant. amended twice.Dec 23 15:11
schestowitz__[TR]http://techrights.org/wiki/FacebookDec 23 15:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Facebook - TechrightsDec 23 15:29
Techrights-sec2backDec 23 16:08
Techrights-sec2thanksDec 23 16:08
schestowitz-TR2btw, rianne and I will send money later this month in your name. no need to send us anything, I want to ensure our host feels moral support for both admins.Dec 23 16:09
schestowitz-TR2ok thanks but I can send some amount Dec 23 16:10
schestowitz-TR2his work is definitely appreciated even if it cannot be compensated adequately Dec 23 16:10
schestowitz-TR2economically.  Dec 23 16:10
Techrights-sec2ok thanks but I can send some amount Dec 23 16:10
Techrights-sec2his work is definitely appreciated even if it cannot be compensated adequately Dec 23 16:10
Techrights-sec2economically.  Dec 23 16:10
Techrights-sec2thanksDec 23 16:18
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schestowitz__[TR]potential source to inspire us (we can have our own, but ideas are there, e.g. how to 'colour' the diffs): gemini://git.skyjake.fi:1968/Dec 23 17:47
Techrights-sec2ackDec 23 17:50
Techrights-sec2interesting, though I see no colorsDec 23 17:50
schestowitz-TR2yes, it emulates this under the assumption some clients use different colours for code bitsDec 23 17:50
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Techrights-sec2ackDec 23 23:16
Techrights-sec2best to avoid gimicks and focus on raw textDec 23 23:16
Techrights-sec2text is readable across all clients Dec 23 23:16
Techrights-sec2afkDec 23 23:16
schestowitz-TR2re gemini, yes, hacks and client-specific things ought to be avoidedDec 23 23:16
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