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| schestowitz[TR2] | Re: A small complaint re: techrights | Oct 26 15:53 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Most complaints are good and more so productive and constructive ones such as yours. I took a moment to discuss this with my wife and decided to respond in-line. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > I've been thoroughly enjoying the posts on techrights. I've not seen **anywhere else**, for example, even the slightest trepidation about Debian including "non-free firmware" by default, or any analysis of it other than "oh great my wifi works now." I'm glad to see that you stand up for the FSF, for free software, for Richard Stallman and the GNU project, and all without embracing every little fad or trend that comes along. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Thank you, it's appreciated. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > I've also been very pleased to see that this is paired with feminism and some sense of internationalism. It's unfortunately rare to see tech sites talk about women's rights, and even rarer to see them talk about it in any meaningful way (i.e., any deeper than "our corporate handlers tell us it would be good PR to mention it briefly and insincerely"). And then also to see some mentions here and there of internationalism and co | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | operation between peoples. It's nice. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's nice to know the internationalism angle is done OK, which leads to: | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > What bothers me however is the occasional, off-handed China bashing. I don't understand where it's coming from. China is a massive supporter of free software. For example, the biggest state-funded effort to replace foreign software imports with domestic alternatives is the Deepin OS, licensed GPLv3. The collective analysis here is that the GPL is the only way to guarantee that software ends up actually serving human needs rat | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | her than corporate greed. China's also a champion of women's rights and internationalism. The accusation that the CPC is "undemocratic" is incomprehensible to me -- elections are held for local offices, policy implementations vary between regions to ensure that the local people of a given region can tailor it to their specific realities, grassroots Party committees oversee development & conflict resolution of every neighborhood | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | in the country. American police kill literally more than 1,000 people every year, Chinese police killed almost no one ever. In other countries, the rich keep getting richer and everyone else is left to die off. In China, the quality of life is steadily rising for everyone -- and extreme poverty was eliminated just a few years ago. To top it all off, the government has a consistent approval rating hovering around 90% -- and thi | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | s even according to studies conducted by*American* institutions. How could that be called undemocratic? | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I critically digest information about China (what little of it that is permitted by the insiders) and some of this contradicts the above. I have friends who visit China. My wife is east-Asian, too. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think we must be equally critical of all superpowers (or wannabe superpowers). | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > It's the Americans that keep trying to covertly introduce software bugs and backdoors, it's the Americans that are spying on everyone and attempting to destroy free software, it's the Americans that were talked about by Snowden. We*know* for certain what the Americans are doing -- why*speculate* about China instead of looking at the facts? Why believe the discredited nonsense published by American media? Why buy into it whe | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | n the world's biggest criminal accuses someone else of wrongdoing? | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1. China also got caught back-dooring stuff; 2) US is "on top" and has been for decades; I try not to underestimate what 'underdogs' would do if allowed to morph into top dogs. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think TR is a lot harsher on the West than on China, which is increasingly helping Russia against Europe (where I am). | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Well, that's my rant. I'm a little nervous to send it; I'm not big on fights or conflict. Like I said I'm very much enjoying Techrights so far. I just wish it didn't have that little piece embedded in. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's good and important to know if or when readers sense bias. I will reassess that slant [no pun intended] and see if I was/am unfair. | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > *Sincerely* signing off with my best wishes for you and yours | Oct 26 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Thanks for the feedback. | Oct 26 15:53 |
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