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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "You can’t rely on Google to preserve the Web or anything that happened on it." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/26/google-youtube-gulagtube-removes-incredibly-racist-and-transphobic-political-ad-from-illinois-state-rep-jeanne-ives/ | Jun 27 03:44 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google YouTube (GulagTube) removes incredibly racist and transphobic political ad from Illinois state Rep. Jeanne Ives. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 27 03:44 | |
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| Techrights-sec2 | TM seems to be having difficulties, the httpd log shows that it is up | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but there is almost no traffic which is strange, and I can't reach it via | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | http from here | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've tried restarting httpd there, twice, to be sure but there has been no change in the problem | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | restarted mysqld and that worked | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes it looks like it, | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tmux is unavailable there until the OS move | Jun 27 06:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | restarting httpd | Jun 27 06:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just restarted both and it sorked | Jun 27 06:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe we both tried that around the same time | Jun 27 06:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 220627 5:15:22 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Table './drupal/cache_block' is marked as crashed and should be repaired | Jun 27 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hmm now that log file is gone | Jun 27 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | can you run it from there, it'd not be good to run it twice concurrently | Jun 27 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, well spooted | Jun 27 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we should run the repair script | Jun 27 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I will run it | Jun 27 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no I am not running the repair script | Jun 27 06:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what is the datestamp on the lockfile? | Jun 27 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like there was a masssive backup file | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | confused by the db state | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've removed that | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | are you running the repair script? | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it says there is a lockfile | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe some old and stale lockfile | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am not sure | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you check? | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can enter via the hv | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines-old | Jun 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the script is /home/boycottn/bin/ repair | Jun 27 06:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | looking for the script .. | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'm in via hv | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | something is wrong/broken with 'less' | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll try running the script here, ok? | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | something has become weird with flock | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll have to look into that later, for now running the script | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it is fixing / checking the tables | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it has finished running | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | TM responds | Jun 27 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll have to look into the lockfile there, it may not run properly via HV | Jun 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, I've just taken a dump | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the size of the file seems | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and regarding taking a dump, i was afk for a similar reason | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | health issue, will pass, cause not known | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, the DB dump seems correct and the site is back | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for the help | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see such sites cannot just run themselves | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | editorial and sys admin alike | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I keep reminding myself this is why many old "news" sites perish | Jun 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's not enough income for them to justify sys admin bills | Jun 27 06:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | one of the better metaphors is that sites are like a garden | Jun 27 07:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | needing constant minor maintenance or else things will rapidly spiral out | Jun 27 07:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | of control | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I watched the difficult move Constant Gardener | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | my mom watched it separately, also found it difficult | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is literally a constany gardener | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes more than once per week | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cut the gorass yesterday | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but she carried on for another hour doing the more minor bits | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | no idea why it takes her so long or what she does exactly | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | my mom also | Jun 27 07:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Women treat gardens differently | Jun 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | indoors, too | Jun 27 07:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "slow" news is unfortunately here to stay for the forseable future | Jun 27 07:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've converted or exchanged slow news cycled into more sleep lately | Jun 27 07:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | we should not take this for granted but do something, I think | Jun 27 07:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | patent news was 90%+ disinfo | Jun 27 07:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "open source" lost its meaning several years ago (openwashing BS) | Jun 27 07:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even with "Linux" it's hard to find enough for 30-50 nodes per day in TM | Jun 27 07:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes anything about sw patents and, for the most part, patents in general | Jun 27 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | via Google is disinformation and lies; there appears to be no penatly for | Jun 27 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | lying publicly and loudly for any of the lawyers involved | Jun 27 07:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | LF and OIN are part of the problem there, too | Jun 27 07:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | same companies, same people | Jun 27 07:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | new front, another "brand" | Jun 27 07:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and bastian best saying dumb things like | Jun 27 07:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's either "patents" or "open source" | Jun 27 07:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't need to bother expalining to him that he compares cars to cats | Jun 27 07:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes it is the same group of companies and in some cases even the same people | Jun 27 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | yesterday I was upstairs assessing where to put my desk next when winter comes and I need to escape the cold area | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but rianne and I both aren't sure yet about work cycles | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we know we'll work though and it doesn't matter, except the setup of phones and arrangement of computers, acquarium | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | etc. | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the more important bit is, how to edit the site (topics, sources) in light of what (I personally consider to be) seems | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a gradualy demise of the www | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | technically is is still there, but the "content" is being thrown away (gulagtube may be next; sotrage costs... like | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | google+ and joindiaspora... lots of "stale" content) | Jun 27 07:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | new articles aren't produced as much, either | Jun 27 07:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there will be more information later, no need to worry much about that yet | Jun 27 07:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I would think | Jun 27 07:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if we swallowed 5000 RSS feeds and filtered them for relevant material, there would still not be much | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why Google News too seems to be struggling | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | GIGO issue, IMHO | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the algorithms are not adapting | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if you go to front page (www) of news.google.com you will see it's like social control media | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does not ask you what you want | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like twitter or gulagtube front page it's designed to provoke, it is curated | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter funnels all the "engegement" to few accounts this way | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it give a false impression of size and importance | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | with only select few topics most people will discuss there | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the rest is "legacy" | Jun 27 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | barely maintained, can barely add new sources and instead allowingplagiarism like bollyinsider to stay | Jun 27 07:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | there for years | Jun 27 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what's really bad is when sites cull old articles and/or their comment sections | Jun 27 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | provocation == engagement == clicks == farmable behavior | Jun 27 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there is a surprisingly large amount of automated plagiarism out there | Jun 27 07:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | this was sometimes used as reason/excuse for not having RSS feeds | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're perceoved as facilitators of easier copying of whole "content" | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | LinuxToday removed all the old comments afaik | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | with CMS changes | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it was a very lossy conversion | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | wayback machine may have those tens of thousands of comments | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe 100,000 | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes in techrights we quoted some | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | for sure dead links now | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | on issues like Novell, Mono etc. | Jun 27 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was not even very long ago, maybe a decade | Jun 27 07:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not if one is selective about which RSS feeds to track | Jun 27 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes many dead links even when pointing at sites which still exist | Jun 27 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's like the sites go out of their way /not/ to use Apache2's redirection | Jun 27 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and URL rewriting capabilities | Jun 27 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | managers do not know what it means or how the web works | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | their metrics are not curation-oriented but business oriented | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | many business sites flush things out every x years and start all over again | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and with unis taking their "business" people inhouse (I met one in an | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | interview) | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can expect that unis sites will mostly kill old "content" that | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot bve "monetised" like homepages of profs | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and instead have a more "professional" presentation | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to sell enrollments | Jun 27 07:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes there too | Jun 27 07:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | especially as their role in scholarly communication is eliminated or marginalized | Jun 27 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have clear memories of things I saw that put me off academia | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) seeing my project mentor sitting there memorising her slides before lecture | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) piles of exams to mask | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | *mark | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) phd supervisor telling me postdocs are not to work part time but only full time with expectation of | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | further work after 5pm (I'm told teachers in schools are expected the same for even lower pay) | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | d) veryvery low view counts or readership/circulation of published paper | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | e) arduous peer review process, months to publish a barely-read paper (see (D)) | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | f) expectation of you being a serf for IEEE and others, doing extnsive reviews | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | of other people'e work so that they can sell books (not the authors, the parasites... who | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | roward you by sending you a "dead tree" of your voice with a fictional "value" attached to it) | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of paying you for your time with REAL money | Jun 27 07:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | books are generally not counted towards career advancement in academia, not even | Jun 27 07:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | important ones and chapters are not even indexed in many catalogs | Jun 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | books will barely be read or kept by people under 30 that I know | Jun 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't have time | Jun 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not that they do better things with their time) | Jun 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | they lost the ability to read or never gained that ability to begin with | Jun 27 07:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | most under 40 cannot actually read long form | Jun 27 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | afaik | Jun 27 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they never learned the ability to actually read beyond short paragraphs for | Jun 27 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | exams | Jun 27 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the gilf book I go through while shaving is split into 1000 paragraphs, numbered, with photos on every second page | Jun 27 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a format I never saw before | Jun 27 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | *golf | Jun 27 07:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | strange format | Jun 27 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was almost a giveaway at m&s | Jun 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | down to (iirc) 1 pound instead of line 10+ times more | Jun 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | we also got soime recipe books this way | Jun 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | m&s discounts have terrible sucked the past 5 years or so | Jun 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even worth checkinng | Jun 27 07:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we saved thousands over the years by hoarding discounted items there, clothes, homeware etc. | Jun 27 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am thinking | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) we exhausted news sources for gnu/linux | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) TM is just about as active as it can get withouyt straying to other topics | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) suan used to do original articles like distro reviews | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | one option might be doing original articles about gnu/linux and cross-post these in TR and TM | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but some people might oppose | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I attempted this briefly around 2014 | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [[d) the news won't suddenly "wake up" again... web stagnation means it'll only languih away further. cadence]] | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the web is "done"... not it's Chrome Wide Something | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and moving further towards consolidation around "frameworks" | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | with proprietary fonts and infinite scrolls | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday in IRC I mentioned that zdnet is not all infinite scroll | Jun 27 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | no pages | Jun 27 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes I was about to mention the possibility but those are a lot of effort | Jun 27 08:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the hard part is getting original material, not just accurately but in a | Jun 27 08:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | timely manner, | Jun 27 08:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no the news is quiet for a reason, only the superficial reason is money | Jun 27 08:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the money is about control | Jun 27 08:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think lack of funding is also due to lack of financial returns | Jun 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | a miscalculation | Jun 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | not PURE sabotage by the "venture capitalists" | Jun 27 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not just lack of financial returns but also the avoidance of inconvenient | Jun 27 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | articles digging around on topics they'd rather leave undiscussed | Jun 27 08:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | (and the causes aside, the net outcome is, news is going away and gone away... lexology and mondaq wants us | Jun 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | to think copies of pages from law firm's web sites are substitutes for journalism) | Jun 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | publications like newspapers used to be self-funding, mostly classifieds and fake articles, so | Jun 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the reliance on the state or VCs were not always there | Jun 27 08:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | press releases and lies | Jun 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil is trying that | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he gets money from LF, I think | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | muktware become spam.io | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | *became | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | same site, different domain names, shuffling names around like the problem was the name alone | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | muktware used toi get about 700 views per article | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's like 20 per 'article' | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no sane person goes there for news | Jun 27 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | those 20 are maybe googlebot and baidu | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to think what to do next | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have spare time now, both in weekdays and weekends | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | due mostly to the lack of input from the Web AND Gemini | Jun 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried thinking what to write in C, I still have those skills, but writing c programs for a very simple thing is pointless | Jun 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I cannot think of a progrsm worth investing in that does not exist already | Jun 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, quiterss is c++ | Jun 27 08:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scripting is more efficient in regards to the time put in versus the result | Jun 27 08:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | C is very useful within specific domains, but you know that better than I | Jun 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | last release was 2020 | Jun 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | GPL, IIRC | Jun 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | GPLv3 | Jun 27 08:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 08:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scripting is more efficient in regards to the time put in versus the result | Jun 27 08:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | C is very useful within specific domains, but you know that better than I | Jun 27 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | with c I'd have to recompile for new distros, archs (e.g. raspi) | Jun 27 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said, by 2000 we probablt already had all vital programs as free software we can hack on | Jun 27 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | by 2010 already a lot of options | Jun 27 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2022 you have like 20 gemini servers | Jun 27 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they tell us there is "talent shortage" | Jun 27 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | f**ers! | Jun 27 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | my fear re quiterss is that rss become the news nntp/newsgroups/usenet | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thus many rss readers are like the next KNode | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not enough active users to justify further maintenance | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and as a new verion or qt comes it means further rewrites | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | or removalk of past features as mean of shortcut so that the thing compiles and does | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not crash | Jun 27 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | Lars left qt | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not a good sign | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it doesn't seem like it's a big step up for him | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | some tiny company in oslo I think | Jun 27 08:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | some companies adapt and evolve, some do not | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not all companies can rely on government (tax graft) bailouts | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "subsidies" for some ulterior agenda | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of people like kaniini spent/wasted years of their lives developing gfor irc | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then for social control media (pleroma) | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | those things will end up like diaspora | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | a downwars head curve | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a lawsuit from bkuhnhehim against Trump | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for press (marketing) coverage | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that does lead some developers to depression, like cmdrtaci/rob malda | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | their work is "has been" | Jun 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a retired footballer | Jun 27 08:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bailouts have been an ongoing problem, especially since they have been so | Jun 27 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | heavily misused to prop up profits for otherwise unprofitable industries | Jun 27 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | such as banking and microsoft | Jun 27 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I recall him, and his site got destroyed quickly after he sold | Jun 27 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the software is still running but the community is gone (on purpose) | Jun 27 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and the content replaced with astroturf and spam | Jun 27 08:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | footballers are expected to retire around 35, already well pat their peak | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 5 years assange went from exposing the CIA to having stroke in solitary | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | PIA/Lee probably cannot pay back the debt, but I'm not in contact and cannot | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | assess the situation | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | this can have knock-on effect on the family (2 kids, iirc) | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | kim schmitz lost almost everything, except his life | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and his twitter account (afaik) | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | (he's pro-Trump) | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | what you describe is the opposite of free market | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but nepotism-based market interferences by the government | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying to impose failing things (Microsoft) and things that cause misery (mortgage pipeline) | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | on us, at our own expense if necessary | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | or telling a USian living in a tent with a mattrss that he or she needs to chip in | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | for 1.3 trillion dollar per year to "support the tr.... overseas occupation bases" | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw,m the report keeps misreporting pentagon/doid budget | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | what congress votes on is just a little more than half the total sum | Jun 27 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | funny how thge press has not mentioned "black budget" in the past 5 years or so | Jun 27 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes that's accurate | Jun 27 08:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | corporate welfare is the rule there | Jun 27 08:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, got git commit, got daily links | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | finishing my shift in 23 mins | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne helped as usual | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | (fossforce dead for over a month now) | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, I did not know liam proven had his own blog | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used his theregister rss feed | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | now I have two feeds for him | Jun 27 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has been around for many years, he's a good hire for the register | Jun 27 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 08:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | great | Jun 27 08:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | hollywood does receive some subsidies, but I fail to recall the details of how that worked | Jun 27 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | netflix is a dliverty system of the hegemony propaganda machine | Jun 27 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they too can be "helped" by the taxpayers (read: more national debt) | Jun 27 08:45 |
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| schestowitz-TR | re SN: | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Microsoft's complicated dance with..." | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Hitler's complicated dance with Jews" | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Putin's complicated dance with Kiev" | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "China's complicated dance with Tibet..." | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the list goes on | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | for this one entry, F* SN | Jun 27 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | hopefully those are rare | Jun 27 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hollywood also has handlers, especially regarding the portrayal of the US | Jun 27 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | military | Jun 27 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Esperessif just announced a dual band board, that'll be the first embedded system afaik with 5GHz support | Jun 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | SN is still probably salvageable but be sure that the microsofters have | Jun 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | been working against it since the beginning | Jun 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | don't give them an inch | Jun 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Compulab’s new IoT gateway provides support for two processor models, the C1800Q and the C1800QM." Compulab should shun criminals from Microsoft. Bad neighbourhood. ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jun 27 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ ) | Jun 27 09:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft is trying to infiltrate from this angle too | Jun 27 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mentioned other examples a few hours ago | Jun 27 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | infiltration is their ownly chance at survival | Jun 27 09:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes and their main tactic | Jun 27 09:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | buying influence is done for small money | Jun 27 09:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and then you get cultist minions for free on occasion | Jun 27 09:09 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | probably have fixed the locking in the repair script | Jun 27 10:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, just done gym | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | lost about 2kg today | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | another kind of DB dump | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure what caused it though, very strange, esp. given massive time gap between last meal | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I'll aim to get down to 90kg (from 95) | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still don't know how to deal with low RSS feeds volume/yield | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought about it, tuxmachines should stay as it is | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we cannot make articles of reevance pop up out of thin air | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday I filters "assange" in those 32,000+ general feeds as it is indirectly relevant | Jun 27 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | s/n ratio better than it was in gulag noise | Jun 27 10:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 10:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | RSS is still a slog to get through though it helps to focus on different | Jun 27 10:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | sections on different days | Jun 27 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | just fyi: the opml feeds you sent, I never check them up to more than 2 days ago | Jun 27 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid collusion | Jun 27 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I'm always 2-3 days "behind" | Jun 27 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne and I "take turns" in TM to avoid posting dupes by mistake | Jun 27 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | when quiterss crapped its own DB I lost about 5-10 rss feeds that are hard to find | Jun 27 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but iirc those were mostly for howtos | Jun 27 10:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | frequent backups are needed with QuiteRSS, especially after adding hard-to-fond | Jun 27 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ^hard-to-find | Jun 27 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | feeds; been there, done that | Jun 27 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | *collision | Jun 27 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | happened to rianne before | Jun 27 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can happen after unclean exits | Jun 27 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | for me it was the first time (this catastrophic) | Jun 27 10:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've hardly scripted at all for a long time, I should try to gather motivation | Jun 27 10:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to try writing an RSS reader | Jun 27 10:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | few such sites even have RSS feeds | Jun 27 10:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's mostly individual bloggers | Jun 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think we might be surprised by how few people use rss feeds of msm sites | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | compared to high-profile bloggers like kottke | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | what I fancy a LOT about reading from kate is that I'd see names like Justice Jackson | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like hundreds of times | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | post about it | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I still don't know what she looks like | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I saw a photo, I'd not recognise her | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's like books, let the imagination work | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I found that photos can distract from substance of stories anyway | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | to explain something or write about something you don't need to memorise faces | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | as much as names and details (who they are, what they did) | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so this "worth a thousand words" thing might be waste of storage | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | mental storage | Jun 27 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I literally read the general news in kate, and then post or "register" a link to that | Jun 27 10:39 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 10:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | if they are grouped, then the groups can be examined and that saves time | Jun 27 10:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | then if it turns out that there are some with lots of posts | Jun 27 10:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they can be checked in more detail | Jun 27 10:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the feeds are so sparse right now that it is insanly inefficient to go through them | Jun 27 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | letting them build up makes clustering easier | Jun 27 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm taking a littlew timeout from them | Jun 27 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | there used to be thousands of things to wade through and cherry-pick from | Jun 27 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | now I double- and -triple- check the iterms just to be 100% sure I did not miss or skip anything | Jun 27 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | one thing thunderbird always sorely lacked, even with all the extension, is good aggregation | Jun 27 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | wherein you see all the items from all sources in one place | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | pref. with some indicator like site favicon | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | even rssowl had that when I ised that about 18 years ago | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a very basic feature | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also important when grouping related things and removing dupes | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | thunderbird did have a dupe remover | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course it's no longer compatible and they ruined the software as RSS reader | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they go for "apps" | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | which, as doctorow put it some days ago, is like software but a lot worse | Jun 27 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no. RSS is not part of e-mail. Thunderbird already has too many irrelevant | Jun 27 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and inappropriate gimmicks | Jun 27 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cnanot even remember when exactly or why I mobed to thunderbird for my feeds | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | rssowl was a java application and wasn't that great | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | ben pasero stopped developing it at some point | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried feedlounge before google reader was launched to kill it | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was a beta tester | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they could not compete with free (gulag)... and it did not last long | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag abandons things when they show no propsect of "monetisation" | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag reader threatened their other service, a cash cow associated with advertising | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | gruber is still posting spam inside his RSS feed | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought people had dtopped trying that crap like over a decade ago | Jun 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Jun 27 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just recovered from memory one rss feed I lost in the DB crash | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it only posted one iterm (howto) this monthj | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | after a busy month last month (>10) | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes you catch and latch onto those site when they are on the high and become visible/promionent | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then when you're there they lose momentum, slow down, even stop or go offline | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | linuxhint has not posted much lately | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they used to be prolific | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did some experiment with microsoft spam | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | then with amazon catalogues disguised as "articles" | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | tomshardware discussed in the main channel atm | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've looked at it more closely | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | without filter | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's full of spam | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | "best of" | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | "deals" | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | wtf??? | Jun 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they do cover raspi a lot though | Jun 27 11:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that probably reduced their audience noticeably | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | for the time being the cover raspberry pis a lot but that's a low hanging | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | fruit, no pun intended; theyre still super popular despite being almost | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | impossible to acquire any more | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | however the lack of availability is gradually starting to take its toll and | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | soon, if they are not able to get the supply chain moving, interest and | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | momentum will dry up quite suddenly | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | one of the reasons for the popularity was that not only were they cheap | Jun 27 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but you could get one very quickly and very easily | Jun 27 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | builders of $40,000 automobil will be willing to pay more for the same components | Jun 27 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there's that factor, too | Jun 27 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you could no longer buy one with cash, at least not in the official cambridge store | Jun 27 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I doubt they sell them off the shelf at any of the "normal" stores here | Jun 27 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so anonymous buys would be second-hand market | Jun 27 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not just the lack of cash purchase but they are mostly out of stock /everywhere/ | Jun 27 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | regardless of payment method | Jun 27 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so scalpers are sniping the online shops with bots and then selling for | Jun 27 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | most unreasonable prices and, as a side effect, damaging the reputation | Jun 27 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | of the RPi | Jun 27 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it isa good thing rianne and I netted not one but two of them | Jun 27 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | hers become a vpn and noc machine with 4 browser windows and a 28-inch scren | Jun 27 11:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 11:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the RPi4 can actually drive two displays quite well | Jun 27 11:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or have fewer computer running | Jun 27 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, we do not have more monitors than display ports | Jun 27 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | we could drive at last 4 more monitors | Jun 27 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but tbh it's where the energy price/cost paid exceeds any real benefit | Jun 27 11:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | more time for exercise then | Jun 27 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I gave rianne of of "mine" ("iza") becaause she could make more use of it than me | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it keeps changing depending on what needs doing | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said, I have a lot more time lately | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but no solace | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the old routinely depend on the web working | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I even slept more... again | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | cleaned the feeds, then lacked the motivation/drive to get back | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | epo quiet so far today | Jun 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you check the gulag maps (soundsfunny, that's a plus!), you'll see wen're not near busy roads | Jun 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the door is wide open next to me | Jun 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hum is quiet and distant | Jun 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes at night it's down to 0db | Jun 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is sort of amazing | Jun 27 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | nice | Jun 27 11:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | excellent | Jun 27 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need a strategy on android | Jun 27 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's bigger than windows in some ways | Jun 27 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | reminding people with the "spy in the pocket" does | Jun 27 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | is not enough | Jun 27 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne still posts android leftovers because technically it is linus | Jun 27 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux | Jun 27 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | just like Microsoft "green" datacentres and "vaccine apps" are "linux" | Jun 27 11:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jun 27 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | only in name, though | Jun 27 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf almost never criticises google | Jun 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and money has something to do with this on two levels | Jun 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) money gulag gives fsf (and fsfe etc.) | Jun 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) the false perception among other recipient of gulag grants that gulag in "your friend" | Jun 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the (2) part relates to the first. FSF would risk alienating some FS people who are receiving some slush funds | Jun 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the "big g" | Jun 27 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they keep mostly passive | Jun 27 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter if FS issues are both applicable and urgent | Jun 27 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | money corrupts | Jun 27 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | EFF has been gutted too | Jun 27 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | they still pay a salary to keep doctorow going | Jun 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | his wife works foir billbc iirc | Jun 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they lay off a lot | Jun 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot recall if he has kids | Jun 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he does, he barely mentions them | Jun 27 11:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 11:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | between the two they were the two most prominent advocates for software freedom | Jun 27 11:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | doctorow is important, it's too bad he is outnumbered there; he should | Jun 27 11:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | instead be surrounded by peers, like he would have been under the old EFF | Jun 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in eff doctorow is "extremists" | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fsf fms is "extremist" | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | *rms | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is how political parties work | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | drift to the centre in (d) and shift to nazism in (r) | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they will say liz cheney is some sort of "leftist" | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheney... left | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | "commie" | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "antifa" | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's how they put it when facing a challenge | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | s/center/far right/ | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Jun 27 11:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 11:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | s/center/far right/ | Jun 27 11:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I post a few links in TM and will have more batches, in between I still think about how to change strategies | Jun 27 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | given that all 3 of us struggle to scrape much off of the rss pool | Jun 27 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | despite the pool itself growing or the net cast further and wider | Jun 27 12:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 12:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the stances that RMS and Corey Doctorow take in their respective organizations | Jun 27 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | are not extreme but as the institutions get corrupted and people replaced | Jun 27 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | problems arrise to attack both. Look at old, pre-sale Wired articles. They'd | Jun 27 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | be banned from most sites these days if they were published as new | Jun 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is infeasible for me to write gnu/linux articles at a pace that can compensate for loss of material in TM | Jun 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it would likely change what the site stands for | Jun 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that's not a good option | Jun 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | re rms and cd, they're different | Jun 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | both talk about tech and politics | Jun 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they have different styles | Jun 27 12:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes different styles but remain close to the original goals, RMS of course | Jun 27 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | becaue he /founded/ the movement | Jun 27 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Doctorow is quite articulate | Jun 27 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is sympathetic to us | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | both him and rms | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we have another style and points we focus on | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | doctorow mde a big name in the past decade for the area of drm, then monopolies | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like lessig did cc and then bribery in politics | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | for us it's still patents | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms is barely even writing anything except his "tweets" in his personal site | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf would, at best, link to a new article of his at gnu.org | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they have anew dutch femme public face | Jun 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | (who did not really say anything since becoming ED) | Jun 27 12:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes of course | Jun 27 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms and lt are mascots now | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are allowed a space in the web site | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes a littl slot in the events | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | no media interview | Jun 27 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | sadly so | Jun 27 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | (when did RMS last do a media interview? wondered why???) | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms is like a boy who, "i need to ask mam for permission" | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | all I asked him, can we do a quick q and a | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | then he says yes | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | then silence | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | then apology | Jun 27 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in religions they use "sin" | Jun 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not limited to christianity | Jun 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | in orgs they use guilt | Jun 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just need to cause embarassment | Jun 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the shock effect leads to "ok, ok, i'll keep a lower profile from now on" (back seat) | Jun 27 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | MIT really hurt him (intetionally) by thowing him under the bus to protect | Jun 27 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bill gates, it did not help that he had just been in Redmond for abuse | Jun 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | we reprinted his article that explained his reasons | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was not an idea that came from him but "sayta" | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe via some associate of rms at fsf | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, at least they had no "dick scandal" about rms | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | all they found was some ol' toe cheese and some dumb "tweet" inspired by a dutch gnu coder | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | who had a sick mind | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | kipman must have done something a lot worse | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not as bad as billg | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | thoough he diesn't have his kind of money and connections | Jun 27 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I keep thinking what in theory people can "dish" at me | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think there's not much | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have idea but can rebut on the spot firmly | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "by association" smears are low blos | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like saying my dad's cousins are rich or something | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or using "mark fink" as a way of holding me accountable | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I responded to an email he sent me once | Jun 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | likely some pseudonyms | Jun 27 12:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Don't worry, they're not in the least concerned about sticking to facts | Jun 27 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or going to allow facts on the table | Jun 27 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Look at RMS, he was taken down by a cascade of lies each one more outrageous | Jun 27 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and more detached from reality than the previous | Jun 27 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | they make up for it by "details" | Jun 27 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | "ok, he's not x, but he stared at me... looked at me funny" | Jun 27 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | rowan atkinson did a show about the cop who arrests people for the most "ludicrous reasons" | Jun 27 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | getting link | Jun 27 12:30 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU | Jun 27 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious | Jun 27 12:30 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, seen that Atkinson speech | Jun 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Hmm. I heard that he was a philatelist and that his "wife" was a thespian | Jun 27 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | thespian? | Jun 27 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, ok | Jun 27 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had to check wikipedia | Jun 27 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | collecting many things from the past is trendy when one's past is a lot more glorious than present times | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | or emulating long-forgotten behavious life afternoon tea, golf, horse-riding etc. | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why many still tolerate the "monarchy" | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | a fake mnemonic for The Empire | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mac Asay's article | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he allowed Microsoft to enter OSI | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | Groklaw blasted humself for it | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he had aplso applied for a job at Microsoft | Jun 27 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | SN had bad smell test or uncaring (about SN) elements | Jun 27 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they could do better about vetting the staff | Jun 27 12:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | however the community is still mostly ok for the time being except for the | Jun 27 12:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shills paid to stir things up and impair discussions | Jun 27 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the latter group you mention puts off and distracts from (at best) the former | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | until the former cease to exist | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then it's the point of no turnaround | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | in irc our "nazi" lad is now called "hollander" a | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and pretend to be dutch lady | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | mjg also picked on this | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and makde fun, collectively, using conspiracy theorists about the dutch plane (or was it asian plane with dutch in it?) | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | falling in ukraine | Jun 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft's jo shield picked on some comment in techrights that said microsofters need the "gas chamber" and attributed this to the site | Jun 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | saying that it represented the view of that | Jun 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | site | Jun 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this articlee was then in linux today | Jun 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I communicated with brian (now in redhat/icbm) that this was false | Jun 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | shields worked on attacking both ubuntu and debian with mono back then | Jun 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course he joined his true masters eventually | Jun 27 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | unless people become aware of the shills and their methods and counteract them | Jun 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :/ | Jun 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shields was / is a shill and like other M$ minions will cherry pick and | Jun 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | misrepresent as much as they are able to | Jun 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shields hurt ubuntu very badly and the managment of Ubuntu / Canonical | Jun 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | did not acknowledge his role in the harm | Jun 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if today's canonical views Microsoft as a rival LOL | Jun 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | see all the azur, WSL etc.s hilling | Jun 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other day I saw a video asking if anonical is evil | Jun 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was of awful quality | Jun 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mentioned it in irc, in passing | Jun 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a new video | Jun 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | many users voted with their feet and moved to another distro | Jun 27 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is like freenode spilling out many users to opher networks | Jun 27 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | sadly mostly 2 networks | Jun 27 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | bohth controlled by ther same people who controlled freenode (original, not leenode) | Jun 27 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | correctr, they actively encouraged subversion and infiltration by their | Jun 27 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | nastiest (only) competitor | Jun 27 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | most to Linux Mint but that is only an Ubuntu derivative not yet | Jun 27 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | directly from Debian or Devuan | Jun 27 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jun 27 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I installed LMDE on this machine | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | a | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | very fine distro | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are increasingly treating it as near equal | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is their lifeboat | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian with nicer initial settings etc. | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't know if debian can recover | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again it has not been so stellar for many years already | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but still generally works, based on experiences of rianne and mine... | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | not perfect, but solid | Jun 27 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | just discussed editorial sie of tuxmachines with rianne | Jun 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | she keeps saying "we're not obliged as we don't take money from poeople" | Jun 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | in refrerence to scenario where we cannot find "enough" links | Jun 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | posting original content there can alienate some pople | Jun 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I don't agree with that site" is not applicable when it just links to other sites | Jun 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | TR can take the punches | Jun 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just manged to get myself to read the whole SN post | Jun 27 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | that just makes SN look bad | Jun 27 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know how it's managed, but I saw some IRC logs of disputes | Jun 27 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if it's a reader's submission | Jun 27 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the editors call the final shot | Jun 27 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this is in bad taste | Jun 27 13:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jun 27 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the editor who posted it is quite new and as mentioned, no idea about the | Jun 27 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | vetting process if any | Jun 27 13:04 |
| psydruid | a Dutch lady wouldn't call herself "Hollander" but rather "Nederlandse", in contrast with "Nederlander" for a Dutch male | Jun 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Jun 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | wwe should live in a world or world wide web where the extremists anf those running aflouf of a CoC | Jun 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | are coporate shills like these | Jun 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | not those who confront them over corporate shilling | Jun 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but money can set the narrative if we're not careful | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | relections are not auctions | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *elections | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in OSI they are | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | we recently covered that in a long video | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's how people like Mac Asay, a fucking lawyer who cannot code, ended up inside OSI's door | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | opening the door behind him to Ramji or Bill Hilf | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is like irc freenode all over again, where staff likely means volunteer and thus there's hardly | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | room for selection and ejectiuon | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | any jane or john can set a foot | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | with intention to gain some OTHER way | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the censors of freenode | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | who got to decide what views are permissible | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | with activelow we just taunt him a little | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I keep reminding him techpol exists for a reason | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: ^ context https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/26/0032216#1256491 | Jun 27 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Microsoft's Complicated Dance With Open Source - SoylentNews | Jun 27 13:06 | |
| psydruid | Holland is just these two provinces in the west where Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague lie | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I read about the differences a few years ago | Jun 27 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | because in some languages it's just "holland" | Jun 27 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yep | Jun 27 13:08 |
| psydruid | Historically they were the important parts when it comes to trade in the East India Company | Jun 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and slaves? | Jun 27 13:08 |
| psydruid | that too of course | Jun 27 13:09 |
| psydruid | slave trade | Jun 27 13:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | a dutch red hat employee once told me the dutch were "market leaders" in slavery | Jun 27 13:11 |
| psydruid | they must have done really well for someone like me having indentured labourers as ancestors to end up first in South America and then here in Europe | Jun 27 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have come to grips with reality | Jun 27 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are not mentally superior | Jun 27 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not financially advantaged due to "superior genetics" | Jun 27 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | moments ago I linked in tuxmachines to new about okular adding moe features | Jun 27 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | developed by an indian coder obviously | Jun 27 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the wage disparity is still an issue | Jun 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the racists don't like to talk about it | Jun 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are used to riding the surplus of other people's productive work | Jun 27 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | best to try to keep him and DFC reined in | Jun 27 13:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | yes, the other channels helped in that regard, the s/n ratio in #techrights is important | Jun 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | as this is how many choose to see the site when they dig for dirt | Jun 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was done to wikileaks | Jun 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | several times over the yeards | Jun 27 13:20 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | best to try to keep him and DFC reined in | Jun 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 1;3A | Jun 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes a separate section for Gemini + Gopher might be good, or maybe just | Jun 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Gemini only | Jun 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather weird thought: | Jun 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | should we make a new top-level section in Daily Links for Gemini and Gopher? | Jun 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that there is no cross-breeding? | Jun 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I find more and more such links over time | Jun 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | for some people it's hard to understandd what it is | Jun 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so on top of a new (fourth) top level block we can add a link explainign what it is and how to access the links | Jun 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes a separate section for Gemini + Gopher might be good, or maybe just | Jun 27 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Gemini only | Jun 27 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the only thing worse than leaving PARCELS in the garbage is making the service so garbage that it | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | does not even deliver | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it only collects from senders | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe then shuffles around the iterm between 'deliverty' warehouses | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | that no longer deliver | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) go buy at store; if you don't like it, return and get money back at the spot, given anonymous receipt | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) go pay for Internet connection (expensive in some places), buy things you cannot see | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) get items in the garbage can | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | d) pay for things online (b), but you need to collect like in (a) without any of the benefits | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) anonymity | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) retruns | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are now at ->>>>> d | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon we'll get some new covid numbers | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll work on making a new gemini section in the template in git | Jun 27 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just pushed changes to template in git | Jun 27 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it says in the commit log, maybe I got some minor thing wrong, like validation, so might have another commit soon | Jun 27 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | daft | Jun 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'm going to record re epo shortly | Jun 27 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jun 27 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | regarding that draft "meme", you might link to the TR survey done a few years | Jun 27 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ago that demostrated the bloat in the WWW | Jun 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot recall how to find it, can you? | Jun 27 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's there somewhere was it 2019 or 2020? | Jun 27 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there were scripts and all | Jun 27 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | i cannot recall that post, that's why I'm asking | Jun 27 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know we did a count of diversity of sources we link to and graph | Jun 27 15:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | sometime in 2019, towards the tail end of the year IIRC | Jun 27 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there is no search function in WP | Jun 27 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | added | Jun 27 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | published | Jun 27 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Jun 27 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Today’s COVID-19 Numbers in England: Deaths Up, Hospitalisations Up Sharly, New Cases at Over 100,000 Per Week https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/27/covid-19-surge-almost-july/ | Jun 27 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Today’s COVID-19 Numbers in England: Deaths Up, Hospitalisations Up Sharly, New Cases at Over 100,000 Per Week | Jun 27 17:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 27 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | back | Jun 27 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | s/llmit/limit/ | Jun 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, amending second (final) read now | Jun 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | notice the criminalityu | Jun 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the banality of crime | Jun 27 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the link from "as usual" could be moved forward under "Campinos is basically bribing the voters with jobs" instead, since the latter is already bold and | Jun 27 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is semantically what the URL leads to it would be a more appropriate anchor | Jun 27 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | sure, anchor text gets that associated accordingly in "search" ngixssssss ;-) | Jun 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, I cannot before href and bold are not compatible | Jun 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, wait , there is a trick | Jun 27 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | href is a kind of bold, I would say | Jun 27 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Jun 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | sure, anchor text gets that associated accordingly in "search" ngixssssss ;-) | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, I cannot before href and bold are not compatible | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, wait , there is a trick | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | tonight I will publish the first Daily Links with gemini section | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did some testing of the parsing, I hope it'll work consistently | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also did a quick blog post about this | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini is not going away | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it needs more cross-capsule linking | Jun 27 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "It has now been ten days since I first showed symptoms of COVID-19, and I've been cleared by a doctor to end my quarantine." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220627-2022-week-24-25-thoughts-and-photos.gmi | Jun 27 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | sad that I trust these anecdotes more than I trust gates-bribes BBC and Guardian | Jun 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's where we are | Jun 27 17:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 17:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jun 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is out looking for food with reasonable price | Jun 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | when i first heard "independent networking" I though communutes that sell frut and veg and barten | Jun 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | barter privately with one another | Jun 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | those too get slapped with stereotypes | Jun 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they work "outside" "the economy" | Jun 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | tax is not enough to demonise them | Jun 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | They call it "dark Web" while at the same time telling us "blacklist" is offensive and sounds racist. | Jun 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Corporate media and billionaires: only us can used terms with racist and negative connotation. Also: we buy all the major media/sites, so the Web won't talk about this double standard... | Jun 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Dilution and Misuse of the "Linux" Brand • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166543 | Jun 27 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Dilution and Misuse of the "Linux" Brand | Tux Machines | Jun 27 17:46 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow back with a second nym for today | Jun 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | "mole" | Jun 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | troll-like behaviour | Jun 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does not even ban-evade | Jun 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but many people ignore him | Jun 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | some might even /mute him | Jun 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know 'dfc' is muted by some | Jun 27 18:17 |
| *schestowitz_TR is now known as Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Jun 27 18:42 | |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jun 27 19:16 |
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