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| schestowitz-TR | the recipes capsule is offline | Sep 27 02:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> 42% Increase in Risk of Neurological Issues Following COVID-19 Infections (7% Impacted Already) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/27/covid-19-neurological-issues/ | Sep 27 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 42% Increase in Risk of Neurological Issues Following COVID-19 Infections (7% Impacted Already) | Sep 27 03:18 | |
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| Techrights-sec | [topic] m$ is still milking the log4j vuln for political gain: | Sep 27 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.scmagazine.com/editorial/brief/critical-infrastructure/bipartisan-open-source-security-legislation-introduced-in-senate | Sep 27 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | https://therecord.media/log4j-senators-introduce-bill-centered-on-cisa-open-source-security-efforts/ | Sep 27 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | The FSF, EFF, and OSI (in their old incarnations) need to be in proactive | Sep 27 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | contact with the OMB immediately. | Sep 27 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.scmagazine.com | Bipartisan open source security legislation introduced in Senate | SC Media | Sep 27 08:02 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://therecord.media/dhs-undersecretary-log4j-problem-is-not-over-may-take-a-decade-or-longer/ | Sep 27 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-therecord.media | Log4j: Senators introduce bill centered on CISA open source security efforts - The Record by Recorded Future | Sep 27 08:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-therecord.media | DHS undersecretary: Log4j problem is not over, may take ‘a decade or longer’ - The Record by Recorded Future | Sep 27 08:02 | |
| Techrights-sec | S.4913 - Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022 | Sep 27 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4913/text | Sep 27 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Text - S.4913 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress | Sep 27 08:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, I thought about doing a video about this topic but then forgot, I will adds a few more refrs to that | Sep 27 08:08 |
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| Techrights-sec | Havinga list helps, even if it's on a used scrap of paper. | Sep 27 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i got some more references to use later | Sep 27 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would help to have more topics to cover in one fell swoop (i have two) | Sep 27 12:07 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet-2023-lets-chart-the-course-together-submit-your-session-by-november-2 | Sep 27 12:08 |
| Techrights-sec | software patents ought to be addressed then | Sep 27 12:08 |
| Techrights-sec | It's partially online so speakers could be from anywhere. | Sep 27 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | LibrePlanet 2023: Let's chart the course together! Submit your session by November 2 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Sep 27 12:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | i don't want to give a talk there | Sep 27 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would have to be self-censored heavily | Sep 27 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I'd rather use my own platform | Sep 27 12:09 |
| Techrights-sec | Today is the 39th anniversary of the launch of GNU. I would say an important | Sep 27 12:10 |
| Techrights-sec | topic would be to get institutions onboard for a proper recognition of the | Sep 27 12:10 |
| Techrights-sec | 40th anniversary next year. | Sep 27 12:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 27 12:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Right but you probably correspond with people who would / could do so. | Sep 27 12:10 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, however others you correspond with might be appropriate | Sep 27 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | hypothetical scenrio | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't pre-apporove slides | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | or I go "off" the slides | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | then talk about IBM | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | OIN | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and FSF money beancounters | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | get a littlew sweaty | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing who might be watching | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | actually boston in nov. | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe not sweaty | Sep 27 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | What about zoobab or someone, that's what I was asking about. | Sep 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | i _think_ he is very busy with upc complaint/lawsuit/similar | Sep 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I might be wrong | Sep 27 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes the LibrePlanet 2023 could be a plaform to inform the public about it and | Sep 27 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec | to hone arguments. | Sep 27 12:13 |
| Techrights-sec | Can you ask him? | Sep 27 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't think I ever saw a libreplanet talk (seen a lot) that focuses on corruption | Sep 27 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | next time i open thunderbird (this coming night) | Sep 27 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | i've just had a peek at the irc channel | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I mostly ignore for now, lost hours on it and it'\s only 12pm | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | the topic is controlled by trolls | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | re fsf, | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | where has ciaran gone? | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | he used to run swpats.org | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then sort of vanished | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | ii researched this 2-3 years ago | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not clear why he stopped | Sep 27 12:18 |
| Techrights-sec | Which network + channel? | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'm sure fsf can send some lawyers to talk about swpats | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | like it did the last time | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the talk would be shallow | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not revolutionary | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "leave it to the profe$$ial$" | Sep 27 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one in gemini scrollback | Sep 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | caution: not good use of time | Sep 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | better to work on links tbh | Sep 27 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to try to clean up rss feeds and then do videos | Sep 27 12:19 |
| Techrights-sec | important theme: | Sep 27 12:20 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/26/journalism-objectivity-and-neutrality-arent-the-same-thing/ | Sep 27 12:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 27 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Journalism: "Objectivity" and "Neutrality" Aren't the Same Thing - CounterPunch.org | Sep 27 12:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I do need more topics and linked to this article | Sep 27 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure what else to say, will think it through over coffee | Sep 27 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol! I made coffee 30 mins ago | Sep 27 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | forgot it in the percolator | Sep 27 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Sep 27 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks | Sep 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol! | Sep 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | familioar story | Sep 27 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | yom dawg, i made you some hot coffee to top up your cold coffee | Sep 27 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | another theme: | Sep 27 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/why-misinformation-spreads-so-quickly-on-social-media/ | Sep 27 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 27 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | that ties into the counterpunch article too; objectivity is not parroting | Sep 27 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Why Misinformation Spreads So Quickly On Social Media | FiveThirtyEight | Sep 27 12:24 | |
| Techrights-sec | "both sides" but a matter of digging to find what the facts are | Sep 27 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "look out the window" (re rain) parable | Sep 27 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but again, need to think of an angle that is relevant to current times | Sep 27 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like covid journalism | Sep 27 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | though I try not to bring that up in TR | Sep 27 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's toxic | Sep 27 12:25 |
| Techrights-sec | Depends on the context, I would guess. | Sep 27 12:28 |
| Techrights-sec | If one sticks to FOSS, sw patents, or something else it should be ok. | Sep 27 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, for maximal effect epo hard-hitting stuff will be near the time the delegates reconvene | Sep 27 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | given the scazrcity of it | Sep 27 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Another theme, setting aside who said it or maybe not, is that computers | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | used to be about doing work for people and under the direction of people rather | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | than as a means to far people and their attention. Note how far the proprietary | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | company Apple has diverged from its founder since his death: | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9281634-i-think-one-of-the-things-that-really-separates-us | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 27 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Steve Jobs: “I think one of the things that really separates...” | Sep 27 12:35 | |
| Techrights-sec | I misread "scazrcity" as "Sarközy"; Isn't his corruption tied somehow to the | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ongoing corruption at the European Patent Office? | Sep 27 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes and it can be time to revisit it at least briefly, minus the cartoons. | Sep 27 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | sarko is the boss and handler of battostelli | Sep 27 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we did loads of cartoons and articles to that effect when B.B. was in charge | Sep 27 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | not we have Breton | Sep 27 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | new mental policy: make notes of potential topics | Sep 27 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | then pause for opportunity to merge them in with something current | Sep 27 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | mashup | Sep 27 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | re jobs and jounralis and social control media, it'll be on the ice till I find a relevant (to TR) angle | Sep 27 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the FUD against FOSS is only indirectly conected to that, so not same post/video | Sep 27 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes and it can be time to revisit it at least briefly, minus the cartoons. | Sep 27 12:45 |
| Techrights-sec | Most softare, especially "apps", are about farming behaviors these days. | Sep 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | also: better to write nothing that something regrettable | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and don't wrsetle with pigs | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | time lost this morning on that | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | took a break from irc, maybe for the rest of the day tbh | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | spent more than enough time | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | left coffee cold | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | did not leave as intended, when intended | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avery accusations of "running away" | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so coffee left aside... for an hour | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's falling below 10 degrees already, so I could use th warmth | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | where did I get the video/linka bout Jobs regarding Internet? | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | explaining that it's not about just using one's PC for computation? | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | can't recall where IU got it | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but what he said was actually insightful | Sep 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | for that time | Sep 27 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Not sure. What phrases can you recall from that video? | Sep 27 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | mystery where I got it from,checking browser history... | Sep 27 12:54 |
| Techrights-sec | What phrases can you recall from that video? | Sep 27 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | their machines are expensive, but high-end | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | more recent parents | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just go for budget/second hand | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the n make up in quantities | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | my friend wanted to take photos of my desk to show people | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | forgoet about the jobs video; i spent too miuch time already trying to (re)locate it | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I will wrap up rss now | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ignore irc | Sep 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | /s/parents/patents/ | Sep 27 12:59 |
| Techrights-sec | The Jobs video can be found if you can recall a phrase or two spoken in it. | Sep 27 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | i don't remember and would not want to liu... wait... I actually did link to it in irc | Sep 27 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | last night or today past midnight | Sep 27 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 27 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | failing to find it | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it said something to the effect of goodquotes you cited (i did not open yet) | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again apple was never abolut getting shit done, either | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was about getting all your money | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | with pcs that cost like 10k by today's money | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's what I knew them for.. | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | snobs with money | Sep 27 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | (people who owned them in 80s/90s) | Sep 27 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | It was about fleecing people but for a few years they were following | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | Jobs' insistance about efficiency and usability. There are many faults | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | with Apple and old OS X, but for a while they did keep an emphasis on usability | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | Now its about "ecosystem" lock-in for formats, protocols, and even data. | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | Worse, the UI has become about 'engagement' which is worrying because for | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | a normal, standalone computer there is no upside to an 'engagement' approach | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | at the expense of usability. So it is most likely that they are increasing | Sep 27 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | their scanning, listening, watching, and other surveillance. | Sep 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus scanning your file because you are presumed a "crim" | Sep 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bartender, I will have my tv program... with booze on the side... keep bringing me more booze" | Sep 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | i went out of my way to write hacks in rthe shell to filter out IRC BS and show it on another monitor | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | to LOWER engagement | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and let me turn notifications off | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | in past 5 years the social control media shits made the notifications parts harder to hide | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had to write kwin rules to slide parts of the fluid windows out of view in x org | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that I don't see all the crap thrown at me | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | while I try to focus on just one task | Sep 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | or chgeck replies just once a week or less, in bulk | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | thunderbird I clean fully at most once a month | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | too much spam and cruft | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | email became very unimportant to me, tbh | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | even rianne and I barely exchange email anymore, we use text files on the pi as a file server | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with kio and kate | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the landline doubled down as an intercom | Sep 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but one of the two cordless sets stopped working months ago | Sep 27 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Sep 27 13:16 | |
| Techrights-sec | Efficiency and focus is the opposite of 'engagement' | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | 25 years ago, the world's universities has a global file sharing network | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | on UNIX (GNU/Linux and others), MacOS, and Windows (pre-XP). It was folder | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | level access control and you could share with groups or individuals, easily, | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | via a folder / directory on the desktop system or even on servers. The | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | people sharing the folders only needed to be part of AFS and could be located | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | anywhere in the world. I guess Ceph might be the descendant but no university | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | that I have heard of still has any meaningful IT department, if they even | Sep 27 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | have one at all. Most don't. The result is that one has to jump through | Sep 27 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | a million hoops to share a simple file and the process is buried in | Sep 27 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | dangers, inefficiencies, and incompatibilities. | Sep 27 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | s/has a/had a/ | Sep 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1990s: i can't do your formnats | Sep 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | now: i need a new account iyour clown | Sep 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the latter isnot just vendor lockin | Sep 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but also a surveillance outpost | Sep 27 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | for bosses, not just states and companies | Sep 27 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ... and still can't do the formats of the files therein | Sep 27 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | https://dwheeler.com/essays/why-opendocument-won.html | Sep 27 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | https://dwheeler.com/essays/opendocument-open.html | Sep 27 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | standards and interoperability as a means for commodity markets is another | Sep 27 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dwheeler.com | Why OpenDocument Won (and Microsoft Office Open XML Didn’t) | Sep 27 13:18 | |
| Techrights-sec | recurring theme touching on many current topics | Sep 27 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dwheeler.com | Is OpenDocument an Open Standard? Yes! | Sep 27 13:18 | |
| Techrights-sec | or the lack of or blocking of such standards | Sep 27 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, we still need to work out and reword explanation of these issues | Sep 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think we can refine this further | Sep 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then get other people to argue similarly | Sep 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | cory d wreote a fiar deal about that | Sep 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think he still uses MSUbuntu | Sep 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | he covers many topics and his talks are rarely "parrots" | Sep 27 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, he did not found or coin anything, e.g. "4 freedoms" | Sep 27 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | he just releases books, a lot | Sep 27 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus a daily essay | Sep 27 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Microbell at it again https://www.phoronix.com/news/RadeonSI-VCN-Async-Mesa-22.3 | Sep 27 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Thanks Microsoft: RadeonSI Enables Async VA-API For Faster Video Acceleration - Phoronix | Sep 27 13:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Thanks Microsoft: RadeonSI Enables Async VA-API For Faster Video Acceleration - Phoronix | Sep 27 13:56 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 27 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | thank you for helping my sponsor | Sep 27 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | which also asks me to booost azure | Sep 27 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and helps microsoft foist pluton | Sep 27 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | give him 1-2 more years and he'll be an LF parrot | Sep 27 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like something exploded | Sep 27 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | other than the economy and the prices ;-) | Sep 27 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | sio I guess further price hikes imminent | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, it's bad enough that comms are done through satellites that require rockets | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and cables on the bottom of an ocean | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | alot worse withdrilling and gas transport | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | disaster always certain | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ages to get to to issue | Sep 27 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | -- | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe not ww3 or "end of the world" | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | just culling of those least robust to financial turbulence | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | or those with many offsprings | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it fucks up the offsprings the most | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | no proper childhood | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mental burden remains to be witnessed | Sep 27 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i try to be an outside to this | Sep 27 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems to have paid off since 2020 | Sep 27 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe a few decades from now our yough will be no better off than in chinese sweatshop | Sep 27 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | working on the cheap just for bunk bed and food | Sep 27 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | 9 to 9, 6 a week (996) | Sep 27 15:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Interpol seeks arrest of failed crypto-firm boss Do Kwon - BBC News ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63033262 ䷉ Source: BBC | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63033262 | Sep 27 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bbc.co.uk | Interpol seeks arrest of failed crypto-firm boss Do Kwon - BBC News | Sep 27 15:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | my friend says the scammer seems to be running from HK, but the domain is malaysia-registered (common) and maybe the company is Korean, he says | Sep 27 15:37 |
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| Techrights-sec | cross-border scams are hard to deal with, which is why so many seem to operate | Sep 27 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec | like that | Sep 27 18:57 |
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