IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, January 28, 2023

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plenty of good progress

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disk space doubled

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disk space doubled

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main remaining tasks are

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main remaining tasks are

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daily links pipeline

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daily links pipeline

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and irc stuff

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and irc stuff

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excellent #######################################

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excellent #######################################

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by clearing old files or by adding new storage?

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by clearing old files or by adding new storage?

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debian 11

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debian 11

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brand new ssd

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brand new ssd

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tons of stuffed restored

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tons of stuffed restored

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In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

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been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

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In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

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been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

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very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page

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In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

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been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

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very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page

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In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

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been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

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very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

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very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

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especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

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especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

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the archive?

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the archive?

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onto paper,

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onto paper,

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especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

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especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

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the archive?

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the archive?

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In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

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been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

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In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

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been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

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very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

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especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

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the archive?

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very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

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especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

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the archive?

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>> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?

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>> I am missing that file.

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>> Regards,

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> I am too. It is not in Git.

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> Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the

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> file itself appears never to have entered the repository.

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Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.

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Cheers!

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PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.

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>> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?

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>> I am missing that file.

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>> Regards,

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> I am too. It is not in Git.

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> Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the

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> file itself appears never to have entered the repository.

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Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.

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Cheers!

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PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.

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Jan 28 04:46

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bbulletin working fully now

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irc next

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for now, no irc blog post

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working on it...

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bbulletin working fully now

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irc next

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for now, no irc blog post

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working on it...

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bbulletin working fully now

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irc next

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for now, no irc blog post

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working on it...

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bbulletin working fully now

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irc next

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for now, no irc blog post

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working on it...

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"No IRC file for 2023-01-27 yet as of 2023-01-28 07:26:36 UTC.

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schestowitz-TR

working on it atm ^_^

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only today there will be duplicate lines

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still testing and working on it #######################################

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making a two-machine redundancy thing

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only today there will be duplicate lines

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still testing and working on it #######################################

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making a two-machine redundancy thing

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only today there will be duplicate lines

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still testing and working on it #######################################

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making a two-machine redundancy thing

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for the logs

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very pleased by speed of recovery

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inc.. hw repairs

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expect some creases at first

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ack

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nice

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I presume a local shop had a suitable SSD. It normmally take a week or two at

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least otherwise

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trying

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IRC logs have duplicate lines

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yes, i have corrected for the next day

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did a lorof testing too

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It turns out that the lines really are duplicares, so it may be that piping

Jan 28 08:51

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the files through uniq will solve that.

Jan 28 08:51

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yeah, this is solved going forward

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ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi

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maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive?

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i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not

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also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux

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it would be nice to figure out how to free up time

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to do more articles

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i already sleep little ^_^

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took a ton of rss obboard

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this is good if well managed

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just had kitchen chat about this, 5-20 min

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doing more coding to take itfurther would be nice

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the progreams are all force multipliers

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and other sites cannot keep up

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looking at least rss_since

Jan 28 09:39

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i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper

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maybe almost identical to another

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but taking another list of URLs

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from a file

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that might explain why git does not have it?

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looking at least rss_since

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i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper

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maybe almost identical to another

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but taking another list of URLs

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from a file

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that might explain why git does not have it?

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The XML in OPML is very simple, not much more complex than DL in HTML

Jan 28 09:58

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ryan just wrote about cnet getting caught spewing out hey hi garbage as articles

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i think the www will leave people fatigued and cynical

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either way, i am happy to have this new drive

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maybe this lapto can last 5 years now

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newer distro too

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i still need to adjust it

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took my sister a week to adapt after debian 0 to 11 shock

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i cannot find any way to install synergy so fat

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(far

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the company wants money

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but i have contingencies

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I would have thought that Devuan would be a good choice.

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Barrier is the FOSS equivalent to Synergy iirc

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i used both in tabdem

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it was hard to configure this week

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and i forgot how i did it

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I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later

Jan 28 10:09

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i think i'd like to think laterally for a bit how to better assess ad survey news over rss

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i have been doing the same thing for 20 years

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there must be a better way then rssown, thunderbird, and quiterss

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for instance, clustering of related theme

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more efficiency means broader coverage, faster

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each time i rebuild it gives a change to start afresh with another approach/focus

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i've not yet restored quiterss, only installed it

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I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later

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One way would be to read the OPML file into a database and then use the

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database to fetch the feeds which are ready for fetching and create an HTML

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file of the results to browse. The advantage is that the real browsers are

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much better suited for browsing than QuiteRSS and its competitors are. The

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biggest down side is that no browsers allow markign a link as "unread".

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Doing it in Perl would be relatively easy and quite good qualitu but for

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political purposes Python3 would be a more strategic option since certain

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communities are investing in Python training.

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in 2005 ish [h]omerfrom cols/usenet, who slaso started our irc channel in freenode, developed

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a parser in python for rss feeds, for usenet

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but it didn't go far, it did not do anything too witty

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The OPML input is easy, and there seem to be good XML parsers for Python3

Jan 28 10:16

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but the examples provided in the documentation are simmplistic to the point\

Jan 28 10:16

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of being almost irrelevant

Jan 28 10:16

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good

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to put it one way, next 5 days might be slow/catching up

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but i expect the next 5 years to be good and productive

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with so many hours freed up and proper sleep

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i want to work on processing of information

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this can also be done for geminispace

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at a much smaller scale

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the core issue many have is,

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too much 'information'

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with so littke signal

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sites that parrot PR

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sometimes varghese does this too (again)

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i am going to move all video making to obs studio and alter preview.sh to do the metadata right

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i have worked to make the pipeline less dependent on one physical machine

Jan 28 10:22

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8 machines here are always turned on with undertilised CPUs/capacity

Jan 28 10:23

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we get fibre this coming week, this time they do is PROPERLT

Jan 28 10:23

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not experimental like summer 2021

Jan 28 10:23

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How fast fibre will it be? If there is a price difference for faster there

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is not much point in going over 100Mb/s because nearly every web server

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is sluggish and the pages they serve clogged with remote objects and scripts

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to ensure that the page does not render faster than 15 seconds any way

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exactly

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i told them that

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that is the equivalent of my unis and clients that get 128 core machines

Jan 28 10:43

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that are like... idle 80% of the time

Jan 28 10:43

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so the capacity only helps bursts

Jan 28 10:43

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mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-latest-tmp.8FuruXm' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/latest-news.html': Permission denied

Jan 28 12:26

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Writing the RSS feed for HTTP

Jan 28 12:26

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mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-xhtml-tmp.tr9ADHx' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/feed.xml': Permission denied

Jan 28 12:26

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just wondered if work is being done there

Jan 28 12:28

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happened twice, node seems to be saved, but the above happens

Jan 28 12:28

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try now

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just folded blogs into the document root but it may have disturbed some of the

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directory permissions despite best efforts

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thanks, it is ok now

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Great. Sorry about the disturbance

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See now http://news.tuxmachines.org/blog/

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Some of the static links there might be adjusted but the main problematic

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Blogs | Tux Machines

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links like for login or registration have been deactivated.

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thanks, some of the links ther work, some do not

Jan 28 12:39

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Which do not?

Jan 28 12:39

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individual pages of the posts for example

Jan 28 12:40

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Can you give some examples, the ones I tested work so it appears that parts

Jan 28 12:43

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may be missing but which ones?

Jan 28 12:43

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oddly enough the same pages seem to work now^_^

Jan 28 12:43

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That was the IDS apparently. It is not yet tuned to the new pages :(

Jan 28 12:47

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I'll leave it off for now, but will have to add more conditionals to it.

Jan 28 12:47

schestowitz-TR

thanks for that!\

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It'll need to be tuned properly since it will turn on in its current

Jan 28 13:05

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incarnation (or whatever is saved) at next reboot

Jan 28 13:05

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The Apache2 logs have not been rotating, there seem to have been double

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configurations there for logrotate.d

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Checking

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There is an error in ssl.conf for apache2

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The file itself was in the way because the main configuration file covers TLS

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nowadays.

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It was from 17 jan. I wonder if apk packaging does that with the updates?

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I sure hope not.

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rotstion of the access logs almost never worked

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since august

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Ok. Log rotation /should/ work now. I just checked via the daily shell script

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The defective SSL file has been moved out of the way, but there is a small

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question about the Certificate since it generates a warning.

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"""

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server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE

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"""

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I wonder if the system updates themselves break the custom rotation rules?

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Hmm. The blogs should have gone under /old

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I wonder if it is feasible to try to move them.

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Probably not since it would require doing modifications to many, many href

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attributes.

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i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end

Jan 28 13:56

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git pull origin master

Jan 28 13:56

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or do you mean clone ?

Jan 28 13:56

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i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end

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need to first configure where to connect

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the keys work for ssh

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Yes that configuration data goes in ~/.ssh/config

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so then you can do:

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git clone tm-git:tuxmachines.org

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or some other shortcut

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is there a particular identityfile?

Jan 28 14:16

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The key that you log in with to tm-new can be used.

Jan 28 14:17

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Where you able to clone the tm repository?

Jan 28 14:44

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unfortunately no

Jan 28 14:45

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Can you SSH to tm-new as 'roy' ?

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It looks like you can. The same key and such should give you access to Git

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Ah. Found a bug.

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Checking...

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You'll need a proper entry in ~/.ssh/config for news.tuxmachines.org

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It must include both IdentityFile and IdentityOnly and it would be a good idea

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if it also includes User too

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then

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git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org

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that path is modifiable

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warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

Jan 28 15:03

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big progress though

Jan 28 15:05

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thank you

Jan 28 15:05

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i almost caught up with all of the links you sent today and yesterdy

Jan 28 15:05

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did not sleep much last night

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still catching up

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made massive progres today though!

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i want to soon figure out how to better analyse and assess feeds

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the, today I thought of a way to also apply camelcase to them in TM

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git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org; cd tuxmachines; git checkout master;

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^cd tuxmachines.org

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XOR

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git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org -b master