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schestowitz-TRgmJan 28 04:11
schestowitz-TRgmJan 28 04:11
techrigthssecgmJan 28 04:11
techrigthssecgmJan 28 04:11
schestowitz-TRplenty  of good progressJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRplenty  of good progressJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRdisk space doubledJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRdisk space doubledJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRmain remaining tasks areJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRmain remaining tasks areJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRdaily links pipelineJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRdaily links pipelineJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRand  irc  stuffJan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRand  irc  stuffJan 28 04:12
techrigthssecexcellent                            #######################################Jan 28 04:12
techrigthssecexcellent                            #######################################Jan 28 04:12
techrigthssecby clearing old files or by adding new storage?Jan 28 04:12
techrigthssecby clearing old files or by adding new storage?Jan 28 04:12
schestowitz-TRdebian 11Jan 28 04:13
schestowitz-TRdebian 11Jan 28 04:13
schestowitz-TRbrand new ssdJan 28 04:13
schestowitz-TRbrand new ssdJan 28 04:13
schestowitz-TRtons of stuffed restoredJan 28 04:13
schestowitz-TRtons of stuffed restoredJan 28 04:13
techrigthssecIn tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havceJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecbeen done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism.  I think it's probablyJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecIn tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havceJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecbeen done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism.  I think it's probablyJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecvery extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecIn tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havceJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecbeen done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism.  I think it's probablyJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecvery extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecIn tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havceJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecbeen done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism.  I think it's probablyJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecvery extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecvery extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecespecially short ones.  I guess those links can be disabled when creating Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecespecially short ones.  I guess those links can be disabled when creating Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecthe archive?Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecthe archive?Jan 28 04:25
techrigthsseconto paper,Jan 28 04:25
techrigthsseconto paper,Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecespecially short ones.  I guess those links can be disabled when creating Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecespecially short ones.  I guess those links can be disabled when creating Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecthe archive?Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecthe archive?Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssec---Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssec---Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecIn tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havceJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecbeen done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism.  I think it's probablyJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecIn tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havceJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecbeen done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism.  I think it's probablyJan 28 04:25
techrigthssecvery extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecespecially short ones.  I guess those links can be disabled when creating Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecthe archive?Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecvery extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecespecially short ones.  I guess those links can be disabled when creating Jan 28 04:25
techrigthssecthe archive?Jan 28 04:25
schestowitz[TR]>> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>>Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>> I am missing that file.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>>Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>> Regards,Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>>Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> I am too.  It is not in Git.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> file itself appears never to have entered the repository.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup?  I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]Cheers!Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time.   I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>>Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>> I am missing that file.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>>Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>> Regards,Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]>>Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> I am too.  It is not in Git.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]> file itself appears never to have entered the repository.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup?  I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]Cheers!Jan 28 04:39
schestowitz[TR]PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time.   I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.Jan 28 04:39
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schestowitz-TRbbulletin working fully nowJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRirc nextJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRfor now, no  irc blog postJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRworking  on it...Jan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRbbulletin working fully nowJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRirc nextJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRfor now, no  irc blog postJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRworking  on it...Jan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRbbulletin working fully nowJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRirc nextJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRfor now, no  irc blog postJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRworking  on it...Jan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRbbulletin working fully nowJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRirc nextJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRfor now, no  irc blog postJan 28 04:48
schestowitz-TRworking  on it...Jan 28 04:48
techrigthssec"No IRC file for 2023-01-27 yet as of 2023-01-28 07:26:36 UTC.Jan 28 07:28
techrigthssec"Jan 28 07:28
techrigthssecnpJan 28 07:28
schestowitz-TRworking on  it atm ^_^Jan 28 07:28
schestowitz-TRonly  today there will be duplicate linesJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRstill testing and working on it      #######################################Jan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRmaking a two-machine redundancy thingJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRonly  today there will be duplicate linesJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRstill testing and working on it      #######################################Jan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRmaking a two-machine redundancy thingJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRonly  today there will be duplicate linesJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRstill testing and working on it      #######################################Jan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRmaking a two-machine redundancy thingJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRfor the  logsJan 28 07:44
schestowitz-TRvery pleased by speed of recoveryJan 28 07:56
schestowitz-TRinc.. hw repairsJan 28 07:56
schestowitz-TRexpect some creases at firstJan 28 07:56
techrigthssecackJan 28 07:56
techrigthssecniceJan 28 07:56
techrigthssecI presume a local shop had a suitable SSD.  It normmally take a week or two atJan 28 07:56
techrigthssecleast otherwiseJan 28 07:56
techrigthssectryingJan 28 08:36
techrigthssecIRC logs have duplicate linesJan 28 08:36
schestowitz-TRyes, i have corrected for the next dayJan 28 08:36
schestowitz-TRdid a lorof testing tooJan 28 08:36
techrigthssecIt turns out that the lines really are duplicares, so it may be that pipingJan 28 08:51
techrigthssecthe files through uniq will solve that.Jan 28 08:51
schestowitz-TRyeah, this is solved  going forwardJan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubiJan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRmaybe we can make thesame but  more comprehesive?Jan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRi am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did notJan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRalso read in quiterss was gamingonlinuxJan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRit  would be nice to figure out how to free up timeJan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRto do more articlesJan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRi already sleep little ^_^Jan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRtook a ton of rss obboard Jan 28 08:54
schestowitz-TRthis is good if well managedJan 28 08:54
techrigthssecOops not qiute Jan 28 09:00
techrigthssecHow are you and Rianne at XML in Python?Jan 28 09:00
schestowitz-TRyeah, this is solved  going forwardJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubiJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRmaybe we can make thesame but  more comprehesive?Jan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRi am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did notJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRalso read in quiterss was gamingonlinuxJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRit  would be nice to figure out how to free up timeJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRto do more articlesJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRi already sleep little ^_^Jan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRtook a ton of rss obboard Jan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRthis is good if well managedJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRjust had kitchen chat about this, 5-20 minJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRdoing more coding to take itfurther would be niceJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRthe progreams are all  force multipliersJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRand other sites cannot keep  upJan 28 09:01
schestowitz-TRlooking at least  rss_sinceJan 28 09:39
schestowitz-TRi wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapperJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRmaybe almost identical to anotherJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRbut taking another list of URLsJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRfrom a fileJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRthat might explain why git does not have it?Jan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRlooking at least  rss_sinceJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRi wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapperJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRmaybe almost identical to anotherJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRbut taking another list of URLsJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRfrom a fileJan 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRthat might explain why git does not have it?Jan 28 09:40
techrigthssecThe XML in OPML is very simple, not much more complex than DL in HTML Jan 28 09:58
schestowitz-TRryan just wrote about cnet getting caught spewing out hey hi garbage as articlesJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRi think the www will  leave people fatigued and cynicalJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TReither way, i am happy to have this new driveJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRmaybe this lapto can last 5 years  nowJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRnewer distro tooJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRi still need to adjust itJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRtook my sister a week to adapt after debian 0 to 11 shockJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRi cannot find any way to install synergy so fatJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TR(farJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRthe company wants moneyJan 28 10:01
schestowitz-TRbut i have contingenciesJan 28 10:01
techrigthssecI would have thought that Devuan would be a good choice.Jan 28 10:02
techrigthssecBarrier is the FOSS equivalent to Synergy iircJan 28 10:02
schestowitz-TRi used both in tabdemJan 28 10:02
schestowitz-TRit was hard to configure this weekJan 28 10:02
schestowitz-TRand i forgot how i did itJan 28 10:02
techrigthssecI generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for laterJan 28 10:09
schestowitz-TRi think i'd like to think laterally for a bit how to better assess ad survey news over rssJan 28 10:12
schestowitz-TRi have been doing the same thing for 20 yearsJan 28 10:12
schestowitz-TRthere must be a better way then rssown, thunderbird, and quiterssJan 28 10:12
schestowitz-TRfor  instance, clustering of related themeJan 28 10:12
schestowitz-TRmore efficiency means broader coverage, fasterJan 28 10:12
schestowitz-TReach time i rebuild it gives a change to start afresh with another approach/focusJan 28 10:12
schestowitz-TRi've not yet restored quiterss, only installed itJan 28 10:12
techrigthssecI generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for laterJan 28 10:15
techrigthssecOne way would be to read the OPML file into a database and then use the Jan 28 10:15
techrigthssecdatabase to fetch the feeds which are ready for fetching and create an HTMLJan 28 10:15
techrigthssecfile of the results to browse.  The advantage is that the real browsers areJan 28 10:15
techrigthssecmuch better suited for browsing than QuiteRSS and its competitors are.  TheJan 28 10:15
techrigthssecbiggest down side is that no browsers allow markign a link as "unread".  Jan 28 10:15
techrigthssecDoing it in Perl would be relatively easy and quite good qualitu but for Jan 28 10:15
techrigthssecpolitical purposes Python3 would be a more  strategic option since certainJan 28 10:15
techrigthsseccommunities are investing in Python training.Jan 28 10:15
schestowitz-TRin 2005 ish [h]omerfrom cols/usenet, who slaso started our irc channel in freenode, developedJan 28 10:15
schestowitz-TRa parser in python for  rss feeds, for usenetJan 28 10:15
schestowitz-TRbut it didn't go far, it did not do anything too wittyJan 28 10:15
techrigthssecThe OPML input is easy, and there seem to be good XML parsers for Python3Jan 28 10:16
techrigthssecbut the examples provided in the documentation are simmplistic to the point\Jan 28 10:16
techrigthssecof being almost irrelevantJan 28 10:16
schestowitz-TRgood Jan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRto put it one way, next 5 days might be slow/catching upJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRbut i expect the next 5 years to be good and productiveJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRwith so many hours freed up and proper sleepJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRi want to work on processing of informationJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRthis can  also be done for geminispaceJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRat a much smaller scaleJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRthe core issue many have is,Jan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRtoo much 'information'Jan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRwith so littke signalJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRsites that parrot PRJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRsometimes varghese does this too  (again)Jan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRi am going to move all video making to obs studio and alter preview.sh to do the metadata rightJan 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRi have  worked to make the pipeline less dependent on one physical machine Jan 28 10:22
schestowitz-TR8 machines here are always turned on with undertilised CPUs/capacityJan 28 10:23
schestowitz-TRwe get fibre this coming week, this time they do is PROPERLTJan 28 10:23
schestowitz-TRnot experimental like summer 2021Jan 28 10:23
techrigthssecHow fast fibre will it be?  If there is a price difference for faster thereJan 28 10:24
techrigthssecis not much point in going over 100Mb/s because nearly every web server Jan 28 10:24
techrigthssecis sluggish and the pages they serve clogged with remote objects and scriptsJan 28 10:24
techrigthssecto ensure that the page does not render faster than 15 seconds any wayJan 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRexactlyJan 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRi told them thatJan 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRthat is the equivalent of my unis and clients that get  128 core machinesJan 28 10:43
schestowitz-TRthat are like...  idle  80% of the timeJan 28 10:43
schestowitz-TRso the capacity only helps burstsJan 28 10:43
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schestowitz[TR] mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-latest-tmp.8FuruXm' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/latest-news.html': Permission deniedJan 28 12:26
schestowitz[TR]Writing the RSS feed for HTTPJan 28 12:26
schestowitz[TR]mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-xhtml-tmp.tr9ADHx' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/feed.xml': Permission deniedJan 28 12:26
schestowitz-TRjust wondered if work is being done thereJan 28 12:28
schestowitz-TRhappened twice, node seems to be saved, but the above happensJan 28 12:28
techrigthssectry now Jan 28 12:35
techrigthssecjust folded blogs into the document root but it may have disturbed some of theJan 28 12:35
techrigthssecdirectory permissions despite best effortsJan 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRthanks, it is ok nowJan 28 12:35
techrigthssecGreat.  Sorry about the disturbanceJan 28 12:38
techrigthssecSee now http://news.tuxmachines.org/blog/Jan 28 12:38
techrigthssecSome of the static links there might be adjusted but the main problematicJan 28 12:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Blogs | Tux MachinesJan 28 12:38
techrigthsseclinks like for login or registration have been deactivated.Jan 28 12:38
schestowitz-TRthanks, some of the links ther work, some do notJan 28 12:39
techrigthssecWhich do not?Jan 28 12:39
schestowitz-TRindividual pages of the  posts for exampleJan 28 12:40
techrigthssecCan you give some examples, the ones I tested work so it appears that parts    Jan 28 12:43
techrigthssecmay be missing but which ones?Jan 28 12:43
schestowitz-TRoddly enough the same pages seem to work now^_^Jan 28 12:43
techrigthssecThat was the IDS apparently.  It is not yet tuned to the new pages :(Jan 28 12:47
techrigthssecI'll leave it off for now, but will have to add more conditionals to it.Jan 28 12:47
schestowitz-TRthanks for that!\Jan 28 12:48
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techrigthssecIt'll need to be tuned properly since it will turn on in its currentJan 28 13:05
techrigthssecincarnation (or whatever is saved) at next reboot Jan 28 13:05
techrigthssecThe Apache2 logs have not been rotating, there seem to have been double Jan 28 13:24
techrigthssecconfigurations there for logrotate.d Jan 28 13:24
techrigthssecCheckingJan 28 13:24
techrigthssecThere is an error in ssl.conf for apache2 Jan 28 13:24
techrigthssecThe file itself was in the way because the main configuration file covers TLSJan 28 13:24
techrigthssecnowadays.Jan 28 13:24
techrigthssecIt was from 17 jan.  I wonder if apk packaging does that with the updates?Jan 28 13:24
techrigthssecI sure hope not.Jan 28 13:24
schestowitz-TRrotstion of the access logs almost never workedJan 28 13:24
schestowitz-TRsince august   Jan 28 13:24
techrigthssecOk.  Log rotation /should/ work now.  I just checked via the daily shell scriptJan 28 13:31
techrigthssecThe defective SSL file has been moved out of the way, but there is a smallJan 28 13:31
techrigthssecquestion about the Certificate since it generates a warning.Jan 28 13:31
techrigthssec"""Jan 28 13:31
techrigthssecserver certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUEJan 28 13:31
techrigthssec"""Jan 28 13:31
techrigthssecI wonder if the system updates themselves break the custom rotation rules?Jan 28 13:31
techrigthssecHmm.  The blogs should have gone under /old Jan 28 13:55
techrigthssecI wonder if it is feasible to try to move them. Jan 28 13:55
techrigthssecProbably not since it would require doing modifications to many, many hrefJan 28 13:55
techrigthssecattributes.Jan 28 13:55
schestowitz-TR i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my endJan 28 13:56
techrigthssecgit pull origin master Jan 28 13:56
techrigthssecor do you mean clone ?Jan 28 13:56
schestowitz-TR i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my endJan 28 14:00
schestowitz-TRneed to first configure where to connectJan 28 14:00
schestowitz-TRthe keys work for sshJan 28 14:00
techrigthssecYes that configuration data goes in ~/.ssh/config Jan 28 14:00
techrigthssecso then you can do:Jan 28 14:00
techrigthssec git clone tm-git:tuxmachines.orgJan 28 14:00
techrigthssecor some other shortcutJan 28 14:00
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schestowitz-TRis there a particular identityfile?Jan 28 14:16
techrigthssecThe key that you log in with to tm-new can be used.Jan 28 14:17
techrigthssecWhere you able to clone the tm repository?Jan 28 14:44
schestowitz-TRunfortunately noJan 28 14:45
techrigthssecCan you SSH to tm-new as 'roy' ?Jan 28 14:54
techrigthssecIt looks like you can.  The same key and such should give you access to GitJan 28 14:54
techrigthssecAh.  Found a bug.  Jan 28 14:54
techrigthssecChecking...Jan 28 14:54
techrigthssecYou'll need a proper entry in ~/.ssh/config for news.tuxmachines.orgJan 28 14:59
techrigthssecIt must include both IdentityFile and IdentityOnly and it would be a good ideaJan 28 14:59
techrigthssecif it also includes User tooJan 28 14:59
techrigthssecthen Jan 28 14:59
techrigthssecgit clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.orgJan 28 14:59
techrigthssecthat path is modifiableJan 28 14:59
schestowitz-TRwarning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.Jan 28 15:03
schestowitz-TRbig progress thoughJan 28 15:05
schestowitz-TRthank youJan 28 15:05
schestowitz-TRi almost caught up with all of the links you sent today and yesterdyJan 28 15:05
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schestowitz-TRdid not sleep much last nightJan 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRstill catching upJan 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRmade massive  progres today though!Jan 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRi want to soon figure out how to better analyse and assess feedsJan 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRthe, today I thought of a way to also apply camelcase to them in TMJan 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRgnJan 28 15:52
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techrigthssecgit clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org; cd tuxmachines; git checkout master;Jan 28 23:05
techrigthssec^cd tuxmachines.orgJan 28 23:05
techrigthssecXORJan 28 23:05
techrigthssecgit clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org -b master Jan 28 23:05
schestowitz-TRdone :))))Jan 28 23:20

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