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| schestowitz | >>>> Question: if we attempted a full system update of centos, would that | Dec 28 05:36 |
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| schestowitz | >>>> make https setup easier? Window of opportunity around the new year when | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | >>>> things are quiet. | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | >>>> | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> I would expect that a full update of CentOS would make everything | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> easier, especially access to the repositories needed for Let's Encrypt. | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | >> dec 31? | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | > Ok. Are there any tasks I should help with? | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | If we make a complete backup, do we know how to restore from it? In case things go wrong? | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | Less than an hour ago I noticed the results of the Debian vote; seems like Devuan was saved. | Dec 28 05:36 |
| schestowitz | > TM needed restarting: | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > 2019-12-27 13:40:44 UTC | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > [boycottn@tuxmachines ~]$ repair_tm_dbs.sh | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > Fri Dec 27 13:44:16 UTC 2019 | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > Locking | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | > Also fix gallery2? n | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | It's good that you were home :-) | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Phew!! | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | It went down just after we had left home for many hours... to belatedly celebrate my birthday. | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Only yesterday I changed my setup to always have top visible for both VMs, but this time I was away. | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | When I got back I stopped one disconnected. I checked TM Gallery works and indeed all was fine; same for Drupal. | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully only cache, accesslog and sessions were affected. | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | I'm recharging for the new year and revising workflow so as to become more efficient. I think the sites are most robust now. | Dec 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Watch out for statements from Devuan. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132218 | Dec 28 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Votes to Stop SystemD 'Monopoly' | Tux Machines | Dec 28 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | > > I will see if someone in the north-west is looking to set something up. | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you. (I can go anywhere in the UK for this, so asking people you know, | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | > wherever they are, is useful to do.) | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Also, I am not sure if you've kept abreast of it, but we're still investigating affairs connected with what happened months back. | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | December 21st: | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Dec 28 06:08 |
| schestowitz | I will publish part 4 today and tomorrow. The police has over 2000 pages in its report about the arrest. | Dec 28 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Dec 28 06:08 | |
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| schestowitz | >> It went down just after we had left home for many hours... to belatedly | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> celebrate my birthday. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> Only yesterday I changed my setup to always have top visible for both | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> VMs, but this time I was away. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > No problem. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | I did at one point check the site from the gym, but didn't know about uptime. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> When I got back I stopped one disconnected. I checked TM Gallery works | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> and indeed all was fine; same for Drupal. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> Thankfully only cache, accesslog and sessions were affected. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm recharging for the new year and revising workflow so as to become | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> more efficient. I think the sites are most robust now. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > Great. I'm hoping that after an upgrade they will be even more stable. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > I am still puzzled by them locking up at all. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | Upgrades aren't likely to solve this issue as TM and TR uses very different versions of CentOS and both have this problem, with similar symptoms. So maybe it's an HV-level issue. TR uptime is now 30 days. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | >> Watch out for statements from Devuan. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132218 | Dec 28 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Votes to Stop SystemD 'Monopoly' | Tux Machines | Dec 28 06:34 | |
| schestowitz | > Ouch. Only option 6 or 7 would have helped. The decision is | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > effectively death for GNU/Linux now unless Devuan finds a way to rally. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > Maybe some more developers will join it now that the Debian TC has | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > decided to kick everyone where it hurts. | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | I suppose I misread the outcome; sounds like offering alternatives is still a priority. But maybe only 'in principle', not in practice... | Dec 28 06:34 |
| schestowitz | Linus is 50 today, but nobody | Dec 28 06:34 |
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| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Today in Techrights | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132231 | Dec 28 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | How to Rotate Display in Ubuntu, Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132230 | Dec 28 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Rotate Display in Ubuntu, Linux | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | What If #RichardStallman Spoke Like #LinusTorvalds Does? http://techrights.org/2019/12/28/cool-insults-and-rude-criticisms/ #rms #gnu #freesw | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Happy Birthday, Linus Torvalds! http://techrights.org/2019/12/28/birthday-linus-torvalds/ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Links 28/12/2019: Calculate Linux 20, Debian's Init System GR Ends (âProposal Bâ on Top), Latte Dock 0.10 http://techrights.org/2019/12/28/debian-init-system-gr/ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | What If Richard Stallman Spoke Like Linus Torvalds Does? | Techrights | Dec 28 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | today's leftovers | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132229 | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Programming: Rust, Perl and Python | Dec 28 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Happy Birthday, Linus Torvalds! | Techrights | Dec 28 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132228 | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | GNU/Linux on Old PCs and Chromebooks in Review | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132227 | Dec 28 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 28/12/2019: Calculate Linux 20, Debian’s Init System GR Ends (“Proposal B” on Top), Latte Dock 0.10 | Techrights | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132226 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: Rust, Perl and Python | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Old PCs and Chromebooks in Review | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Mini PC Reviews | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132225 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Mini PC Reviews | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Security Leftovers | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132224 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Hardware: ODROID-GO, Inkplate and SwitchTrick | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132223 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware: ODROID-GO, Inkplate and SwitchTrick | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | The FSF's Vision and GNU Spotlight | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132222 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | The FSF's Vision and GNU Spotlight | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | LibreOffice 6.3.4 for Slackware and Collabora Online Development Edition (CODE) 4.2.0 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132221 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 6.3.4 for Slackware and Collabora Online Development Edition (CODE) 4.2.0 | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Programming Leftovers | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132220 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | today's howtos | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132219 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Debian Votes to Stop SystemD 'Monopoly' | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132218 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Votes to Stop SystemD 'Monopoly' | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Linux Mint Monthly News â December 2019 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132217 | Dec 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Monthly News – December 2019 | Tux Machines | Dec 28 16:08 | |
| MinceR | i thought they voted to reaffirm that monopoly | Dec 28 16:26 |
| MinceR | and make some bullshit token gesture in the other direction | Dec 28 16:26 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnarlin2/status/1210938794209423360 | Dec 28 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnarlin2: @schestowitz There is certainly not a lack of empty apartments or housing space for people. So, we have people who… https://t.co/euF9vBb1n7 | Dec 28 16:30 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnarlin2: @schestowitz There is certainly not a lack of empty apartments or housing space for people. So, we have people who… https://t.co/euF9vBb1n7 | Dec 28 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 16:30 |
| schestowitz | There is certainly not a lack of empty apartments or housing space for people. So, we have people who need a place to live: CHECK. We have plenty of housing for those people to live: CHECK. Hmmmmm, I wonder what the problem could possibly be? | Dec 28 16:30 |
| schestowitz | #capitalism | Dec 28 16:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bap47/status/1210929265950298112 | Dec 28 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bap47: Yes - emphatically! https://t.co/lnW1A9gznt | Dec 28 16:32 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Avoiding the Collapse of #Democracy Is Our Responsibility https://t.co/gxMBScZPzF the oligarchs won't ever strive… https://t.co/06Maqrg0U6 | Dec 28 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johnnykidlx/status/1210889517915410432 | Dec 28 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@johnnykidlx: @schestowitz @wikileaks That's very pwetty but try putting the us standing trial on ICC | Dec 28 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jaffamonkey/status/1210878669146742785 | Dec 28 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jaffamonkey: @schestowitz Its result of a system people may be angry at, but still want it to work for them. We are mostly our o… https://t.co/QyFkZwkJmb | Dec 28 16:33 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jaffamonkey: @schestowitz Its result of a system people may be angry at, but still want it to work for them. We are mostly our o… https://t.co/QyFkZwkJmb | Dec 28 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | "Its result of a system people may be angry at, but still want it to work for them. We are mostly our own worst enemies and quite naturally fearful of what happens if that system goes away. But it needs to." | Dec 28 16:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1210835933710258177 | Dec 28 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz It's in Leipzig. 16k people. Best conference ever. | Dec 28 16:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rick_eichhornr/status/1210817701163098114 | Dec 28 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rick_eichhornr: Don't you think it more likely they will simply replace with pirated software and hardware? https://t.co/aa2FqbFA0n | Dec 28 16:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Reminder: #gnu #linux may be the future in #china https://t.co/QuPfHgREVG | Dec 28 16:37 | |
| schestowitz | No, maybe only at homes | Dec 28 16:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1210684845166215168 | Dec 28 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: I made the switch in 2006 and it was relatively painless. https://t.co/8Yn7RRXJbw | Dec 28 16:38 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: How to Make the Switch From #Windows to #Linux https://t.co/TaUfjGtH4R | Dec 28 16:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qNUpDT00bMuzXgL6O | Dec 28 16:54 |
| schestowitz | ""some see the glass as half full and others see it half empty. I say the glass is... too big"" | Dec 28 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qNxMnuoJPkoJ8UjZY | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | " Hae ye tried turning it aff 'n' oan again?" | Dec 28 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 16:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qNy8sX8Rf4eWxLQ2K | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Prometheus > Grafana > Grafana alerts via mail or push notifications | Dec 28 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 16:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://coffee-and-dreams.uk/tutorials/2019/11/06/monitoring-pleroma.html | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Thank you, looking into it | Dec 28 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-coffee-and-dreams.uk | Monitoring Pleroma with Grafana and stuff - Coffee and Dreams | Dec 28 16:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qPj6eAqJsp7QROdYu | Dec 28 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qPjJFr23BcxlS8rFg | Dec 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz" | Dec 28 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | Is it possible to achieve with ncurses/CLI and no browser UI? | Dec 28 16:58 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qQhwb94oqWaLCAtM0 | Dec 28 16:58 |
| schestowitz | " in #emacs it can certainly be done, with various (emacs) irc clients (erc, weechat-el, circe)" | Dec 28 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I will check | Dec 28 16:59 |
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| social_log | Apologies, then it's the wrong tooling. Prometheus/Grafana is the 'usual' devops stack if you have (Docker/Kubernetes) VMs and want to forward their performance data to an orchestrator." | Dec 28 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 28 19:56 | |
| social_log | After further research I ended up installing apachetop: | Dec 28 19:56 |
| social_log | [root@techrights ~]# /root/apachetop.sh | Dec 28 19:56 |
| social_log | Manual: https://www.vultr.com/docs/use-apachetop-to-monitor-web-server-traffic-in-real-time | Dec 28 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.vultr.com | Use Apachetop To Monitor Web Server Traffic In Real Time - Vultr.com | Dec 28 19:56 | |
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