IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 29, 2022

schestowitz-TR

catching up

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brb

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the ipfs in today's irc post is missing, i hope not due to a technical issue not detected at my end

Sep 29 08:15

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I'll check to be sure...

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it's more likely that the script here does not fail properly if the files

Sep 29 09:19

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are not yet available when the script is run too soion

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^soon

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schestowitz-TR

at around 3am my time the files become ready, or maybe by 4am for sure

Sep 29 09:20

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i can change the schedules, there is a chain of events, starting 2:30am

Sep 29 09:20

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That is probably it then.

Sep 29 09:21

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about 98% of the time the pipeline works ok without need for intervention

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i have a set of sanity checks that I do after 4:05am

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btw, kiwi irc ha been having issues since sunday

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it seems to be not limited to any site or domain in particular

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we could add a self-hosted web proxy for irc

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there are several options if you fancy a little "sys OP" [sic] challenge

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thew quakenet one is less JS-intensive\

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one longstanding issue with kiwi is not the js per se

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but clownflare being in front of the site

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which means TR reveals visitors to clownflare

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The MitM by Cloudflare should be mentioned specifically on that page then.

Sep 29 09:28

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you would be shocked if you saw how much of uk publiuc sector was outsourced to thisa mitm

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so as a taxpayer to get some service they subject you to AMERCIAN sites

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and the back end is also aws a lot of the time

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it's like we're a bana natio

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*nbanana

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the liz trump fruit company

https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/28/other-peoples-computers/#clouded-over

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paywall: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/software-makers-restrictive-license-rules-targeted-by-new-group

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YouTube: two 30-second, non-skippable ads every 2 minutes or less :(

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 28 Sep 2022 Maintaining monopolies with the cloud – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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alpine can be very challenging for big packages with many deps, but we can have a go at making

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ircgateway.techrights.org or similar

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port 80

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those loss leader [sic] clown computing BS is, to me, more of a military initative

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than anything of substantial value

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and we need to get others to recognise this and say this

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there's NO FREE HOSTING!

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No such thing

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Youtube: we show two ads you cannot skip... with some CRAP or "FODDER" after them

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Clownflare: we're still not sure how to make monet

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spotify/netflix: we collected a lot of data

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microsoft: hololens anyway? yes, we fired all the staff, but we need income, please~!

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youtube is worse because it purges and culls anything that does not please its political masters

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as per irc logs from last night:

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rt and sputnik are not 'blocked' by my ISP

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we're a very liberal nation, y'know..

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they started this BS by saying we need pr0n filters to "protect the kids"

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not they "protect" adults

https://webchat.quakenet.org/

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*now

Sep 29 09:37

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it'lle scalare further, in due course..

Sep 29 09:37

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depending how much PowersThatBe(TM) can 'generously' tolerate opposing views (or videos, since I made a typo)

Sep 29 09:37

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Sep 29 09:38

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webchat.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Web IRC (qwebirc)

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https://development.quakenet.org/

Sep 29 09:39

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-development.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Development Team

Sep 29 09:39

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Cory's post is quite relevant for this thread.

Sep 29 09:39

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maybe CohnPAC (EFF) will even allow him to post these views to a large audicience in eff.org

Sep 29 09:40

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or maybe not

Sep 29 09:40

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"Over the past 15 years, the United States has lost more than half the newspaper reporters covering state and local beats" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/28/policies-center-community-voices-are-key-solving-local-news-crisis | Source: Common Dreams

Sep 29 09:42

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Policies That Center Community Voices Are Key to Solving the Local-News Crisis | Amy Kroin

Sep 29 09:42

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Significantly more than half are gone.

Sep 29 09:47

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i suppose it dpeends what gets counted

Sep 29 09:48

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e.g. "is the domain name still online?"

Sep 29 09:48

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If you count the number of people employed in the branch, it's way more than

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half gone. We had some articles on that in the last 18 months

?? https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/

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Worth a closer look.

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com | Home Page - Coalition For Fair Software Licensing

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i've looked around

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no idea who they REALLY are

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could be phonies like ACT

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where did you find the URL?

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Indirectly via the above links. That's why they're worth looking at, to see

Sep 29 10:03

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if they are legitimate or not; Either way action is needed to support or

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to fight.

Sep 29 10:03

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it's very difficult to know

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they don't give it away upfront

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this weekend I meet my friend who lost almost all his money (and home) to "investors"

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and linus is adopting pile of shit recomended by microsoft azure cto

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because "security".... f*ing sjvn plays into it too

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citing microsoft as authority on security

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to me: warning signs are "fair"

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the word is used a lot by microsoft lobbyists

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like FRAND

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it's a meaningless word

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no legal bearingf

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the BSA too wars a "fair" share

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as you yourself like to say,

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the new currency is debt

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soi the surplus is not profit per se

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but derived by graft or similar

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debt issue

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then a bunch of vultures fight over whose bank account gets the minted 'coins'

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lawyer: the law need not be on our side, we can just endure the longest financially

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microsoft: we don't need to have good products, we can just lose money until our rivals cannot operate anymore

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(backup plan: bailout biden will give us "stimulus" for "defence")

https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/about-the-coalition/

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They unfortunately use the misleading phrase "intellectual property"

https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Principles-of-Fair-Software-Licensing-1.pdf

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Only points 2 and 3 seem relevant to software freedom.

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com | About The Coalition - Coalition For Fair Software Licensing

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It's run by a lawyer

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ack

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i never heard of them before

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they could be part turncoats like IP2innovative, peer2patent, and unifiedpatents

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one moment they support reform, then they take microsoft money and oibstruct opponents of swpats and UPC

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or gas light them

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"they're too radical anyway" (they don't take bribes form hostile firms)

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topic aborted: patent and copyrioght troll

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i will tell you when there is something more newsworthy

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apropos, did you take a look at the irc gateway s/w?

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maybe it's a good opportunity to zap that clownflare thing

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techuser/some haxor complained about it

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at 17 he already knew LE and clownflare are bad

https://qwebirc.org/installation

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-qwebirc.org | Installation - the qwebirc project

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python, openjdk...

Sep 29 10:22

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kiwiirc is a lot of nodejs and vue.js etc.

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I have not looked at the IRC gateway stuff

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<techrights-news> SFC hypocrites. We take Microsoft money, then tell you to "Give Up GitHub" (self-promotion for SFC). We moan that LF doesn't allow community in Board (to start a self-fund-raising campaign), now we outsource key parts GNU to LF. SFC: self-serving liars with PR skills?

Sep 29 13:25

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ack

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<techrights-news> Torvalds in this photo. Zero girls. https://lwn.net/Articles/908323/

Sep 29 14:40

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-2022 Kernel Maintainers Summit group photo [LWN.net]

Sep 29 14:40

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i see LF is making huge progress lecturing us on "diversty and inclusion"

Sep 29 14:40

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i thought about doing a meme that shows fossforce before and after LF $

Sep 29 14:42

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but I don't want to hurt them

Sep 29 14:42

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ack

Sep 29 14:43

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probably not a useful idea to irritate without a positive direction to push

Sep 29 14:43

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can you find an LF page boasting about diversity?

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like, how they have lots of girls?

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because of coc/zemlin/corporations etc.

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like you said, the LF bribes FOSS blogs angle is mostly hurful to those blogs

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(remember IBM/Red Hat and LF keep weaponising this against communities

Sep 29 14:55

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all those salaried coders are not female)

Sep 29 14:55

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checkingf

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/press-release/linux-foundation-europe-launches

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Yes and many (most) don't understand the weaponization, especially of the CoC

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It's "mean" to criticize a /corporation/ for illegal, unethical, and anti-

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation Europe Launches to Foster European Open Source Collaboration and Innovation

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competitive behavior especially if it hurts the kernel and the FOSS world in

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general

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/research/the-2021-linux-foundation-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-open-source

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https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusivity

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 503 @ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/research/the-2021-linux-foundation-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-open-source )

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Diversity & Inclusivity | Linux Foundation

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-foundation-starts-open-source-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-survey/

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Sep 29 15:06

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux Foundation starts open-source diversity, equity, and inclusion survey | ZDNET

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https://nitter.it/linuxfoundation/status/1532053871635447809

Sep 29 15:10

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Linux Foundation (@linuxfoundation): "Open source is all about #inclusivity, #diversity, #freedom, #equality, and #love. The Linux Foundation is proud to support the LGBTQI+ community around the world – this month and always! #Pride #PrideMonth2022"|nitter.it

Sep 29 15:10

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ok, that last one is more sensitive and also does not pertain to a visible attribute

Sep 29 15:11

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I've started putting together a draft, but not much yet

Sep 29 15:11

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I will record some videos later

Sep 29 15:11

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ack

Sep 29 15:13

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adding refs to keep it concise and to the point

Sep 29 15:14

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https://blogs.vmware.com/opensource/2022/02/15/diversity-and-inclusion-two-success-factors-for-open-source/

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-foundation-launches-free-online-inclusivity-training/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blogs.vmware.com | Diversity and Inclusion: Two Success Factors for Open Source

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Linux Foundation launches free online inclusivity training | TechRepublic

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techrepublic+zdnet=two LF-FUNDED propaganda rags

Sep 29 15:24

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this tells you a lot about the state of churnalism

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Yep. Paid for in full.

Sep 29 15:38

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VERY crude first drfat

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did not even preview

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rianne saw the photo too

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sna noticed

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*and

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just this past minute

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she lef the house

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i'll record 3 videos soon

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checking

Sep 29 15:44

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M$ has worked hard to earn and stay the object of any hate it receives

Sep 29 15:44

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made edits

Sep 29 15:45

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will polish it now

Sep 29 15:45

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will record in a bit

Sep 29 15:45

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rianne pointed out torvalds has white hair and greg is very tall

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I will check 4pm nhs figures when this one is done

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than record

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covid numbers are rising, data out in 10 mins

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ack

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GKH is quite tall, but LT might have shrunken a little too along with

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his sudden onset, premature aging.

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proofreading

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can you suggest how to cover this in video uniquely

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e.g. pointing how how LF does NOTHING about 'secure core' blocking Linux?

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the funny thing is, as much as they smear us

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we're one of the most diverse out there in FOSS

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IN SPITE of the smears

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today's epo video/article will cover diversity toowow!!!!

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42% increase in cases in just one week

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I was expecting further growth after last week's

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but not that fast a growth

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with white hair , a robe, and therapists, maybe soon LF will just stuff the man into a mental asylum

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ve shrunken a little too along with

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his sudden onset, premature aging.

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not sure

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re: m$ "hate" : it's called learning from experience :/

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Like in Soviet times

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COVID-19 Pandemic Isn't Over (Claiming That It is Only Worsens Things) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB

Sep 29 16:30

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB )

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OTA

Sep 29 16:30

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The LF's CoC should be much shorted and consist of "is the code good?"

Sep 29 16:31

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if it's rust, then it is magically both good and secure

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OTA

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schestowitz-TR

done 3 videos, working on text now

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the first one is the hardest

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not the typos aspect

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but ensuring i don't say anything provably false

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writing is very slowly

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draft

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ack

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checking

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"seduced" is the wrong word, at least with that phrasing

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"these corporates then seduce and take over the entire thing"

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^corporations

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ousted ... and brought back in a lower position

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"comments, but almost ..." -> "comments, and almost ..."