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schestowitz-TRgood morningJun 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRyes, re your remark on ddosJun 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRI constantly feel compelled to pick the FUD and respond to it at least with one linersJun 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRthat might not get noticed muchJun 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRbut even in TM and TR those same FUD patterns can be undoneJun 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRand maybe readers will "take from from there" and rebut similarlyJun 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRitwire used to be posting good rebuttals to fudJun 30 08:00
schestowitz-TRalways from sam Jun 30 08:00
schestowitz-TRI see he and hos co's now have mandatory microsoft spam to churn outJun 30 08:00
schestowitz-TRto defuse such rebuttals of FUDJun 30 08:00
schestowitz-TRor saturate to the point nobody will bother reading theseJun 30 08:00
Techrights-sec2yes there has been a terrible uptick in M$ spam there somewhat recentlyJun 30 08:11
Techrights-sec2yesJun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TRlike with upc, no perfect way to respondJun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TRfor starters, you give visibility to something otherwise seen by just a handful of peopleJun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TRso I think a token, quick rebuttal, with repetition can helpJun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TRsame for gates foundation a decade agoJun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TRso the crimtical thinking kicks off Jun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TR"it's not just me thinking this is BS..."Jun 30 08:11
Techrights-sec2the spam is damaging ITWire badly and it will soon be time to skip over Jun 30 08:11
Techrights-sec2checking it daily for newsJun 30 08:11
schestowitz-TRless than a year ago we did, for maybe a month, have itwire in auto,Jun 30 08:13
schestowitz-TRbut it fatigued me as maybe I found one REAL ARTICLE (as in REAL) among a seas ofJun 30 08:13
schestowitz-TRBS/spam. Not just ON-TOPIC of topic of interest to me, but something thatJun 30 08:13
schestowitz-TRdid nor smack of TFIR spamnilJun 30 08:13
schestowitz-TRthe "extremely well-connected"  "filmmaker"Jun 30 08:13
Techrights-sec2there are not so many on-topic articles there since the spam surge andJun 30 08:14
Techrights-sec2of course even fewer relevant articles then Jun 30 08:14
schestowitz-TRthose are two separate aspectsJun 30 08:15
schestowitz-TRone is akin to disinformationJun 30 08:15
schestowitz-TRso it's not merely time-wastingJun 30 08:15
schestowitz-TRit can do actual damageJun 30 08:15
Techrights-sec2saturate, diffuse, confuseJun 30 08:15
Techrights-sec2as a means of shutting down topics and sitesJun 30 08:15
schestowitz-TRupside: SN recognises that it is under attackJun 30 08:19
schestowitz-TRdownside: they seem to think spam is the problem; from what I saw, it might be astroturfingJun 30 08:19
schestowitz-TRlike the astorturfing chris dibona privately told me about (when he was running ./)Jun 30 08:19
schestowitz-TR   /.Jun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRBTW, I was just thinking one hour ago:Jun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRhow to best explain why TR does not have comments anymoreJun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRnone this yearJun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRthey are too much of a liabilityJun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRcompanies can deface postsJun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRI suspected there was such an attempt in schestowitz.comJun 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRto get it deindexed on a certain topicJun 30 08:20
Techrights-sec2it is a problem of shills and astroturfing, naively mistaken as spam Jun 30 08:22
Techrights-sec2there's no way to log in and comment nor to log in and make an accountJun 30 08:22
Techrights-sec2then the UI is not very good and then perhaps most importantlyJun 30 08:22
Techrights-sec2it is out of fashion to comment at a site since most sites that still Jun 30 08:22
Techrights-sec2deal with comments outsource it to social control media instead so thatJun 30 08:22
Techrights-sec2it can be manipulated and censored for political means  Jun 30 08:22
schestowitz-TRtrolling exampleJun 30 08:23
schestowitz-TRperson A posts story: microsoft is goodJun 30 08:23
schestowitz-TRpersob B replies agreeingJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRmany people don't agreeJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRand here they are wasting a TON of energy getting angry at the people who lie for MicrosoftJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRboth persons A and B are a problemJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRwe had this issue in IRC, like people who bring up sexJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRdays ago the channel became about abortionbs, masturbation and other off-putting stuffJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRirc is like our comments sectionJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRbut at least it is very much isolated from pertinent postsJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRlinking to irc to claim something about a site is something debian dislikedJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TRvery often projects introduce CoCs for this reasonJun 30 08:24
Techrights-sec2yes that's a similar phenomenonJun 30 08:24
schestowitz-TR"Outrage divident"Jun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRapt term re ^^^Jun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRit's "soping"Jun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRdopingJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRshort-term gain in trafficJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRangry peopleJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRbut it leads toa  formation of resistanceJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRso in the long run people don't come backJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRSN is making errorssJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRby creating resistance to readersJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRTM tries hard to avoid shit like WSL and EdgJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRno need to create strong emotional reactionJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRlike LXer does sometimesJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TR*dividendJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRsome amateurs see that certain toxic storeies get more hitsJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRso they post more and more of themJun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRwithout realising the damage this 'doping' does to 'internal organs'Jun 30 08:34
schestowitz-TRand that's how sites die imeJun 30 08:34
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 08:36
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 08:36
schestowitz-TRwhy would russia target norway?Jun 30 08:37
schestowitz-TRany special reason?cJun 30 08:37
schestowitz-TRcould be some 'stray' crackers, but I've not been paying attention to nordic politics in re russiaJun 30 08:37
Techrights-sec2norway is in NATO and there have been fights over oil and fishing.  the fishingJun 30 08:39
Techrights-sec2fights are, IMHO, because 1) that's where the political power is/was in NorwayJun 30 08:39
Techrights-sec2and 2) it is the only barrier to the oilJun 30 08:39
Techrights-sec2cyberattacks are just one means of several used to politically destabilize theJun 30 08:44
Techrights-sec2region; others include using settlers en masse to establish competing coloniesJun 30 08:44
Techrights-sec2within the contested territories, as well as combining all of the above withJun 30 08:44
Techrights-sec2massive disinformation and social control campaigns via social control mediaJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRit's like an experimentJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRrt and sputnik have lojng played off the extreme right and the unwanted immigrantsJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRit was so successful that they do this in the US nowJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRand the countrry is fighting itself, becoming a laughing stockJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRmuch of this was enabled by internationalisation of commsJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRiow, the pentagon's "Internet" (ARPA) turned against itselfJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRBoth RT and Sputnik invited meJun 30 08:44
schestowitz-TRbut only to "bash" the WestJun 30 08:45
schestowitz-TRI'm not THAT foolishJun 30 08:45
schestowitz-TRAnnie Machon has mostly vanished from site the past few yearsJun 30 08:45
schestowitz-TRas did RMSJun 30 08:45
schestowitz-TRand jill stein is something in history booksJun 30 08:45
schestowitz-TRyes, they do that; the immigration is not the problem; it is the settlementJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRyet they (RT , Sputnik) cultivate anger at all newcomers, whether hostile or notJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRyes they eventually get the country fighting itself while at least one halfJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRconcurrently works to undermine the nation Jun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRThe Internet is still ok, with the exception of BGP and DNS, what is not okJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRis the social control media with rides atop the InternetJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRThat was a smart decision; RT and Sputnik would have only worked against TR's Jun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRgoals and later reputation;Jun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRRMS has mostly had good judgment but it was dumb to speak to themJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRsince, from the "interview", it was very clear they had *no* interest Jun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRin software or software freedom and were only interested in anti-US sound bitesJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRHowever, RMS fatal mistake was not the mailing list faux pas but the inexcusiabinexcusably dumb decision to go to Redmond.  They whacked him at that pointJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TR.Jun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRleaving his last prominent public appearance in the hands of M$ spinmeistersJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRanyway the far right / extremist on the right are wound up about misdirectionsJun 30 08:48
schestowitz-TRinstead of going after the real problem in their society:Jun 30 08:48
Techrights-sec2yes, they do that; the immigration is not the problem; it is the settlementJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2yet they (RT , Sputnik) cultivate anger at all newcomers, whether hostile or notJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2yes they eventually get the country fighting itself while at least one halfJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2concurrently works to undermine the nation Jun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2The Internet is still ok, with the exception of BGP and DNS, what is not okJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2is the social control media with rides atop the InternetJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2That was a smart decision; RT and Sputnik would have only worked against TR's Jun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2goals and later reputation;Jun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2RMS has mostly had good judgment but it was dumb to speak to themJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2since, from the "interview", it was very clear they had *no* interest Jun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2in software or software freedom and were only interested in anti-US sound bitesJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2However, RMS fatal mistake was not the mailing list faux pas but the inexcusiabinexcusably dumb decision to go to Redmond.  They whacked him at that pointJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2.Jun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2leaving his last prominent public appearance in the hands of M$ spinmeistersJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2anyway the far right / extremist on the right are wound up about misdirectionsJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2instead of going after the real problem in their society:Jun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2the media and many officials also do what they can to facilitate that misdirectionJun 30 08:49
Techrights-sec2the key problem with the US elections is the first-past-the-post methodJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2of counting a "winner" rather than using proportional representation;Jun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2some states are starting to correct that but both sides of the oligarch'sJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2group are heaviliy invested in the status quo and it is too late to change Jun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2for the 2024 election so it will be more or less a repetition ofthe 2016Jun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2fiascoJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2social control media and allJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2        Jun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-30Jun 30 08:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-100 Percent Of The Vote - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-06-30 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-29Jun 30 08:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Public Doesn't Trust Us - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-06-29 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-28Jun 30 08:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Ratbert In Charge Of Data Security - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-06-28 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-27Jun 30 08:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Voting Machine Market - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-06-27 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2however even the topic of immigration is fraught with both misinformationJun 30 08:53
Techrights-sec2and disinformation as so many intentionally conflate illegal migration,Jun 30 08:54
Techrights-sec2colonization, asylum, and work-based immigrationJun 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRackJun 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRchecking the stripsJun 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRI used to watch dilbert every dayJun 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRthe plasma thing was leaking RAMJun 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRso I stoppedJun 30 08:54
Techrights-sec2If I had to guess a lot of that is somehow related to knocking the bottomJun 30 08:56
Techrights-sec2out of the labor market with the "gig economy" projects like Wolt, Uber,    Jun 30 08:56
Techrights-sec2AirBNB, etcJun 30 08:56
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schestowitz-TRok, so he  risks being ncalled insurrectoinist and trump msupporterJun 30 09:00
schestowitz-TRit's the latest narrrativeJun 30 09:00
schestowitz-TRfor "voting" machione companiesJun 30 09:00
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Techrights-sec2is this site legit? https://fsfellowship.news/Jun 30 09:01
Techrights-sec2yes they use strawman arguments to great effect to the detriment of theJun 30 09:01
Techrights-sec2actual electionsJun 30 09:01
Techrights-sec2so all researchers on the topic are now marginalized as their cause getsJun 30 09:01
Techrights-sec2picked up and replaced by craziesJun 30 09:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfellowship.news | Free Software FellowshipJun 30 09:01
schestowitz-TRedwin black worried his books would be used by pro-lifersJun 30 09:02
schestowitz-TRbecause in his writings abotu eugenics he mentioned "Planned Parentlhood"Jun 30 09:03
schestowitz-TRwhich does have historical connections to eugenicsJun 30 09:03
schestowitz-TRso he wrote a disclaimer to distance himself and repel themJun 30 09:03
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 09:07
Techrights-sec2J. Alex Halderman seems to have been forced into a very low profile  Jun 30 09:07
schestowitz-TRlol, eu politicians in their 70s agree to half petrol cars 13 years from nowJun 30 09:12
schestowitz-TRI guuess they want cars that run on air when they are 6 feet underJun 30 09:12
schestowitz-TRwhat political BSJun 30 09:12
schestowitz-TRthey could ban these immediatelyJun 30 09:12
Techrights-sec2yes the deadline is so far into the future as to, careerwise, be "never" Jun 30 09:12
schestowitz-TRlike microsoft pledges for some year when the company might no longer existJun 30 09:13
schestowitz-TRfailing and bought by some other company for the trademarks Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz  <li>Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://danielpocock.com/debian-constitution-illegitimate/">Consent & Debian's illegitimate constitution</a></h5>Jun 30 09:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-danielpocock.com | Consent & Debian's illegitimate constitutionJun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                        <p>When a constitution was proposed in 1998, 357 co-authors of Debian were asked to vote on the constitution. This is not really voting though: people who gave a positive vote were agreeing to be members. People who gave a negative vote or did not vote at all have not consented to the constitution and therefore there is no way we can think of them as members of anything.</p>Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                        <p>The names of people who voted were published. Those people, just 86 developers, became members of an association by giving their positive assent to be governed by a constitution in their dealings with each other.</p>Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                        <p>That means there are 357 - 86 = 271 people, or 76 percent, who were satisfied to work on Debian as joint authors without any notion of an association.</p>Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Jun 30 09:13
schestowitz                                </li>Jun 30 09:13
Techrights-sec2yes and while they delay, the damaging behavior goes on unabatedJun 30 09:16
schestowitz-TR"let's spin our POLLUTION as warming up people's homes"Jun 30 09:17
schestowitz-TRZemlin: "you could pay me a couple of millions to say that you are green and your greeness is Linux(TM)-approved"Jun 30 09:17
schestowitz-TR"shut up, Linus, none of yout business; I did not ask for your opinion"Jun 30 09:17
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 09:20
schestowitz-TRkevin from shadowproof (used to be writing in other domains) has more or less become inactiveJun 30 09:29
schestowitz-TRexcept when something major happens in the assange caseJun 30 09:29
schestowitz-TRbarrett bown also vainish afaictJun 30 09:29
schestowitz-TRa lot of WBer-related circles was gaslit by the media in recent yearsJun 30 09:29
schestowitz-TRit's like EPO scandalsJun 30 09:29
Techrights-sec2too many have become quiet of lateJun 30 09:29
Techrights-sec2that's true, I'd even forgotten about BB he has vanished so thoroughlyJun 30 09:29
schestowitz-TRhe keeps a stain that makes it harder for him to seek employment in TXJun 30 09:30
schestowitz-TRlots of typos above, sorryJun 30 09:30
Techrights-sec2npJun 30 09:30
schestowitz-TRI might call it the "malda effetc"Jun 30 09:32
schestowitz-TRone day you're a starJun 30 09:32
schestowitz-TRthen a nobodyJun 30 09:32
schestowitz-TRand it's hard to take, some sink into depression or other addictions like computer gamesJun 30 09:32
Techrights-sec2computer games are a waste of lifeJun 30 09:32
schestowitz-TRplaytime for kids used to involve balls and pavementsJun 30 09:34
schestowitz-TRI guess that made them fitter and more socialJun 30 09:34
schestowitz-TRI wasted a lot of my childhood on gamesJun 30 09:35
schestowitz-TRbut mostly quests and strategyJun 30 09:35
schestowitz-TRnot shootingJun 30 09:35
schestowitz-TRmaybe better than watching TV, which I did tooJun 30 09:35
Techrights-sec2playing with SBC's whether general-purpose or microcontrollers would Jun 30 09:37
Techrights-sec2be much more constructive and even lead to positive side effectsJun 30 09:37
Techrights-sec2along those lines I see that MagPi 119 has been published:Jun 30 09:37
Techrights-sec2https://magpi.raspberrypi.com/issues/119Jun 30 09:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-magpi.raspberrypi.com | The MagPi issue 119 — The MagPi magazineJun 30 09:37
Techrights-sec2I see they are focusing more on their 'Pico' unit;  I can guess several reasonsJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2one being that the parts shortages throughout the supply chain affect thatJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2type of board far less than their "full-sized" general-purpose boardsJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2worse than regular games, kids are now addicted to phone apps, such as (FB)Jun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2instagram, tiktok, and others; that keeps them from interacting with Jun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2eachother or anyone for that matter; so I would guess that a kid growing upJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2now will have by age 20 the life experience of what a 12 year old used to haveJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2then at that age, even if they reform, it is way too late to make up lost timeJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2so their cognitive life is over without skills or experienceJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2TV was also a waste of time; looking back I regret even a minute of itJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2though I grew out of it nearly 100% by late teensJun 30 09:38
Techrights-sec2some types of games can help problem solving but only to a limited extent sinceJun 30 09:41
Techrights-sec2they are so constrained; nowadays they are simply designed for addiction andJun 30 09:41
Techrights-sec2pay-to-win in-game purchasingJun 30 09:41
schestowitz-TRThe incredible machine (tim) and tim2 were niceJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRI still have notes with some titles of games I playedJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRI wrote their named down during very boring lecturesJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRtrying to do something more useful with my timeJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRall those lectures were a waste of timeJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRI was like "extra" in an audicnece of some follow scholars whose workJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRI did not care about and barely understoodJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRa lot of academia is like thatJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRwe get to pretend to care fo presentationsJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRand do this mutuallyJun 30 09:42
schestowitz-TRso it's like "I like your tweet, you will like mine in return"Jun 30 09:42
Techrights-sec2social control media, as mentioned, is probably the biggest addiction and Jun 30 09:45
Techrights-sec2timewaster that people are afflicted with, but on top of both those problemsJun 30 09:45
Techrights-sec2there is the severe matter that it is used to manipulate values and opinionsJun 30 09:45
Techrights-sec2with the younger crowd, it is setting their vaues, mores, and worldview --Jun 30 09:45
Techrights-sec2crookedlyJun 30 09:45
schestowitz-TRdid you see the post I did this morning about kakistocracy?Jun 30 09:45
schestowitz-TRsee the example given lastJun 30 09:45
schestowitz-TRI can relate to it as I saw itJun 30 09:45
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 30 09:46
Techrights-sec2yes, though summary needed a bit about how Campinos was hired despite beingJun 30 09:46
Techrights-sec2unfitJun 30 09:46
Techrights-sec2that's in the bitmap but not the readable textJun 30 09:46
schestowitz-TRafaik, it was about battistelliJun 30 09:46
schestowitz-TRI could add this ref:Jun 30 09:46
schestowitz-TRI cannot find it as I forgot the spelling of his french surname (not for the first time)Jun 30 09:50
schestowitz-TRit's something like berranasJun 30 09:50
schestowitz-TRanyway, Battistelli is D player who brought another D, CampinosJun 30 09:50
schestowitz-TRso it was a turning pointJun 30 09:50
schestowitz-TRthose posts from yesterday were accessed a lotJun 30 09:50
schestowitz-TRlet's hope they influence person-to-p[erson disloaguesJun 30 09:50
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> OpenLibrary ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/enjoy-digital-ownership-and-public-libraries-while-you-still-can/ | Source: TechdirtJun 30 09:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Enjoy Digital Ownership And Public Libraries While You Still Can | TechdirtJun 30 09:59
schestowitz-TRjust realised no irc post yet today Jun 30 10:03
Techrights-sec2checkingJun 30 10:07
Techrights-sec2it's there, just somehow WP choked on it somehow and it "missed schedule"Jun 30 10:07
Techrights-sec2I'll give it a kick in the nadsJun 30 10:07
Techrights-sec2that happens fairly often latelyJun 30 10:07
Techrights-sec2anyway, it's publishe nowJun 30 10:07
schestowitz-TRasking any sites to REMOVE such functionality, however negligible, is like asking the cook to remove the mustard from your meaklJun 30 10:09
schestowitz-TR(yes, commit log cartoon)Jun 30 10:09
schestowitz-TRor putting the toothpaste you don't need back inside the tubeJun 30 10:09
schestowitz-TRI think it qawas called Comic LogJun 30 10:22
schestowitz-TRanyway, that too was a "plasmoid"Jun 30 10:22
schestowitz-TRbefore I realised itwas clobbering at my system due to a bug and removed them allJun 30 10:22
Techrights-sec2It's not removing anything, rather it is swapping out a kilo of javascriptJun 30 10:26
Techrights-sec2for two more functional HTML elements.  However, I do see your point, theirJun 30 10:26
Techrights-sec2goal might not be to reach the largest possible audience but instead showJun 30 10:26
Techrights-sec2off how "clever" they are through excessive and unnecessary javascriptJun 30 10:26
Techrights-sec2afflictionsJun 30 10:26
Techrights-sec2the 'Sunk Cost Fallacy' might also rear its ugly head in that they've alreadyJun 30 10:26
Techrights-sec2paid for the javascript development and therefore feel compelled to use itJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2no matter how much it hurtsJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2Commit Log is  not indexed in some of the search enginesJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2in the news, the one remaining bataclan terrorist will be able to continueJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2his work but now from behind bars instead of spending the time reformingJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2presumably he will spread his agenda to others if he allowed contact withJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2other prisonersJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2Can't find the comic link stillJun 30 10:27
Techrights-sec2dang that was difficult to dig out: https://www.commitstrip.com/en/ Jun 30 10:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CommitStrip | The blog relating the daily life of web agency developersJun 30 10:27
schestowitz-TRI've just tried, in vain, to find the cartoonJun 30 10:29
schestowitz-TRit does not matter muchJun 30 10:29
schestowitz-TRyou may have seen it alreadyJun 30 10:29
Techrights-sec2I've only seen a few from that stripJun 30 10:38
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schestowitz-TRjust fyiJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRtoday too the FUD from Microsoft continuesJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRthey are not even subtle about attacking the "Linux" brandJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRI rebut quieltlyJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRnot giving it TOO much visibilityJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRas an aside, earlier I lost my concentration asnd forgot something I was gonna doJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRI still experiment with sleeping patterns and study their effect on memoryJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRI did, however, manage to produce  alot in TR latelyJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRGulag Noise was such an utter waste of time in retrospectJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRno better than social control mediaJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRit became a sort of form of itJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRsame for gulagtubeJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRthe internet as a whole seems "unhealthy" because of the wayJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRit cluster and delivers thingsJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRit's mostly controlled by few corporationsJun 30 14:01
schestowitz-TRand their aim is never to actually help or inform youJun 30 14:01
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schestowitz-TRI will be happy when I'm on full control ofm my thought process and attention spam, requires removing external factors like notificationJun 30 14:05
schestowitz-TRand engagement-driven provocation, as noted above. I think being able to think clearly or compose thoughts is key to bliss.Jun 30 14:05
thisideupthey just pissed cause linux desktop is taking their place in russiaJun 30 14:05
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft?Jun 30 14:06
thisideupyesJun 30 14:06
schestowitz-TRthat tooJun 30 14:06
thisideuphttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/06/windows-10s-22h2-update-might-not-actually-do-much-of-anything/Jun 30 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Windows 10’s 22H2 update might not actually do much of anything | Ars TechnicaJun 30 14:08
thisideupthei just teasin russian cause they cant updateJun 30 14:08
schestowitz-TRupdates can be worseJun 30 14:11
schestowitz-TRcan be back doorsJun 30 14:11
schestowitz-TRcustom-made for RussiansJun 30 14:11
schestowitz-TRthey should quit using windows altogetherJun 30 14:12
schestowitz-TRif they careJun 30 14:12
schestowitz-TRnot that I support putinJun 30 14:12
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 14:12
Techrights-sec2M$ is always attacking, that's just the nature of the cultJun 30 14:12
Techrights-sec2they attack because they can there were some Plaintiff's Exhibits to that Jun 30 14:12
Techrights-sec2effect saying it flat outJun 30 14:12
psydroid2if I were Russia I would have thrown M$ out and demanded critical applications be ported to GNU/Linux a long time agoJun 30 14:14
schestowitz-TRthey said they wouldJun 30 14:22
schestowitz-TRbut the cult has presence thereJun 30 14:22
schestowitz-TRto try to "defuse" rationalityJun 30 14:22
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thisideupI love googleJun 30 14:53
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Going Increasingly ‘Dark’ (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When It’s Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/covid-19-patients-in-hospital/Jun 30 14:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Going Increasingly ‘Dark’ (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When It’s Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record)Jun 30 14:57
schestowitz-TRthisideup: no you don't.. ;-)Jun 30 14:57
schestowitz-TRTechrights-sec2: the issue is not exercise, the issue is how I stack up todo items and deal with overload of info spillover (calls on phone are super-bad)Jun 30 14:58
schestowitz-TRI did a video this morning about how I can exercise while reading Jun 30 14:58
schestowitz-TRand 'standing desk'Jun 30 14:58
schestowitz-TRtrying to buffer intent to do actions a-z is the hard partJun 30 14:59
schestowitz-TRafter 3 items it's easy to lose track, so need to shield from overload or start taking notes downJun 30 14:59
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 15:10
schestowitz-TR "Linux gamer" so lost in terms of topics... "Picking parts for our new PC!" ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JfVgk7243pw ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaJun 30 15:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JfVgk7243pw )Jun 30 15:58
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 17:09
schestowitz-TRlesson of the day: clown computing = lunacyJun 30 17:11
schestowitz-TRtarget: world's largest (almost) municipalityJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRdowntime duration: 40 minsJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRcause: billingJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRgreedy jeff bezos wants more moneyJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRroot access not enoughJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRlarge municipality: fail. db exceeds 45 gbJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRtechrights: it's OK, our DB can also exceed 500GB ;-)Jun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRno need to ask the world's richest person, across the Atlantic, for permissionJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRalso: method of resolution: access PROPRIETARY GUIJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRIF you have credentialsJun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TR(we don't)Jun 30 17:12
schestowitz-TRrussian hackers, hold 'yo beerJun 30 17:13
schestowitz-TRwe have incompetent managers who outsourced the infra to "Sleepy Joe"Jun 30 17:13
schestowitz-TRand who replaced mantris with jira Jun 30 17:13
schestowitz-TRand... put the code in Microsoft ShitHub (Inner Source)Jun 30 17:13
Techrights-sec2and artificial constraintsJun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2yes arbitrary billing problems that would not have occured if they hadJun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2properly self-hosted insteadJun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2yes that's another thing which has bothered me increasingly about these Jun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2clown services, they are only accessible for the most part through proprietaryJun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2interfaces and no longer commodity technologiesJun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2decommoditization through proprietary interfacesJun 30 17:14
Techrights-sec2and, intentionally, the knowledge is not transferable between clown servicesJun 30 17:14
schestowitz-TR"yo, get certified dudes"Jun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRand use the "skills" within 1 year, otherwise it's expiredJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRthe GUIs will chance all the time, so you need to join the diploma (TREAD)millJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRthat's today's "IT"Jun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRsold by resellers to other resellers and idiots like campinosJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRtoday's browsers are like that tooJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRcert expired 1 minutesa ago!! RISK!!! "GET ME OUT!!!"Jun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRsome web host, iirc, did something similar to meJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRinstead of informing me of somethingJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRtakee the site/service down firstJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRthis is typicalJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRwordpress.com the sameJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRor twitterJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRsuspension firstJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRthen appealJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRwhich they ignore anywayJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TRI lost track od things that lack prior communication (before action) to lessen downtime, panic, angstJun 30 17:17
schestowitz-TR[downtime] "haha, NOW that we got your attention...!!"Jun 30 17:18
schestowitz-TRnot only in computingJun 30 17:20
schestowitz-TRpower shut-offJun 30 17:20
schestowitz-TRwater I think is hard to shut off remotelyJun 30 17:20
schestowitz-TR"return to sender" without contacting youJun 30 17:20
schestowitz-TRmany things like this I've noticedJun 30 17:20
schestowitz-TR"ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS PHONE ME FIRST!"Jun 30 17:20
Techrights-sec2the better way would been to require / force the clown services to Jun 30 17:28
Techrights-sec2have 1) a KVM-style console and 2) SSHJun 30 17:28
Techrights-sec2that's itJun 30 17:28
Techrights-sec2yes the "certifiation" continues to be a fraudulent, expensive scamJun 30 17:28
Techrights-sec2not just the expired server certs, and argument can be made for that, howeverJun 30 17:28
Techrights-sec2the *big* problem is that they all but outright block permanently certificatesJun 30 17:28
Techrights-sec2that are vouched for by anything other than a handful of shyster companiesJun 30 17:28
schestowitz-TRhence, we use the term "cartel" sometimesJun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRmark shuttlecock [sic] sold a share of this cartelJun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRverisignJun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRin turn, they exercise a lot of powerJun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRnot some company in SA or little island near england (with its physical office in london)Jun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRbut ANOTHER SU firm...Jun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRwhile the CAs or china s and russia (BRICS) are vil and black and darkJun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TR*evilJun 30 17:30
schestowitz-TRfor all we know, even the "defence" budget could taker over his share of the cartelJun 30 17:31
schestowitz-TRwhich amounts to nothing more than some compouter issuing and "signing" a bunch of random bytesJun 30 17:31
schestowitz-TRwhat a scamJun 30 17:31
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 17:31
schestowitz-TRas you told andy lasy year 'round xmas time, wait and watch how the # of domains in the CAs "trusted" shrinksJun 30 17:33
schestowitz-TRover time, just like food giants and media conglemeratesJun 30 17:33
schestowitz-TRto the point where "trust" just means "we are the GoodGuys(TM)"Jun 30 17:33
schestowitz-TRand no pretence of openess or willingness to trust those that aren'e "good" like "Microsoft Philanthripies(TM)"Jun 30 17:33
Techrights-sec2web certificates are a confidence gameJun 30 17:33
schestowitz-TRthey also had data breaches and millions of invalidly or improperly issued certs, e.g. in LE and IIRC also godaddy at one pointJun 30 17:35
schestowitz-TRso that confidence also relies on them being in control of their own systemsJun 30 17:35
schestowitz-TRwhether illfuilly or nitotJun 30 17:35
schestowitz-TRIn TR articles about LE I gave the examples of Gemalto several times (recall snowdlden's NSA leaks)Jun 30 17:35
schestowitz-TRand that "trusted" Swiss company that was in fact secretly owned by the CIA< based on verified press reportsJun 30 17:35
Techrights-sec2yes    Jun 30 17:36
Techrights-sec2it is about conformance and extortion of payment not actual Jun 30 17:36
Techrights-sec2authenticity or confidentialityJun 30 17:36
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 17:36
schestowitz-TRto me, TOFU is betterJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRit's decentralised in natureJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRyou can even announc: in 30 days I will change my random bytesJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRif you see an error after dae x/y/z, press OK, proceedJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRheck, better yet, generate it in advantage and give fingerprint or public part in advance, as a headsupJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRbuying a cert is not easy when your site is based in kenyaJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRand most kenyans use chromeJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRLE is subsidisedJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRit's not freeJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRsometimes pays for the lights and the power billsJun 30 17:39
schestowitz-TRand they outsource both their operatiions and their web site to microsoft githubJun 30 17:40
schestowitz-TRwhich tells you how serious they are about securityJun 30 17:40
Techrights-sec2I think LE has been partially subverted which is why M$ GitHub is involved atJun 30 17:40
Techrights-sec2allJun 30 17:40
schestowitz-TRthe person who made LE is not the boss of kaniiniJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRI won't name the companyJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRbut you saw some logs related to thatJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRanyway, they try to outdo 'secure' boot by decentralising the thingJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRto challenge microsoft monopoly on thatJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRI am against the computer refusing to bootJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRthey say, OK, we have this... but let's take the control out of Microsoft's handsJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRSJVN did a puff piece for them about 2 months agoJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRin an LF-bribed publisherJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRthenewstack iircJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TR /now the boss Jun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRnot "not the boss"Jun 30 17:42
Techrights-sec2I think LE has been partially subverted which is why M$ GitHub is involved atJun 30 17:42
Techrights-sec2allJun 30 17:42
Techrights-sec2^subverted and/or partially abandoned as far as its goals goJun 30 17:42
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 17:42
Techrights-sec2okJun 30 17:42
schestowitz-TRI think TR is one of VERY few sites that routinely speak about this issueJun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRat the very least to raise awareness and encourage critical thinking in this otherwise Jun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRmore technical-than-necessary (they use jargon to hype up the clevernesss or complexiity) "thing"Jun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRif put in simpler terms, people realise what this "browser warning" really is aboutJun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRand why it's unjust on many levelsJun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRmaking it hard to self-hostJun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRalso more expensiveJun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TReasier to censorJun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRwe've not yet seen the CAs revoking CAs to censor (ish)Jun 30 17:45
schestowitz-TRbut DNS is already leveraged as such, to this effect...Jun 30 17:45
Techrights-sec2restricted boot is a very bad problem and it combines with the other layersJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2of restrictionJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2I'm not sure about that, I suspect that 99.99% go with the presence or absenceJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2of the lock icon :(Jun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2CAs have been abused; IIRC some ISPs in Turkey or some other dictatorshipJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2were forcing "customers" to backdoor their browsers' CA stashJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2most ISPs don't even help customers to set up DNSSEC or for that matterJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2even encourage it, assuming they even have it set up and availableJun 30 17:47
Techrights-sec2:/Jun 30 17:47
schestowitz-TRthe CA revocation treadmill might start with some literally nazi sitesJun 30 17:47
schestowitz-TRyou can't say "no", can you?Jun 30 17:47
schestowitz-TRyou can lose your job ;-)Jun 30 17:47
schestowitz-TRunless you are unemployed like activelowJun 30 17:47
schestowitz-TRhe had 2 new nyms todayJun 30 17:47
schestowitz-TRthe nymshifting, I think, it due to reciving insultsJun 30 17:49
schestowitz-TRbeing ignoredJun 30 17:49
schestowitz-TRand losing legitimacy fastJun 30 17:49
schestowitz-TRlike a nazi going into a pubJun 30 17:49
schestowitz-TRsooner or later he realises nobody wants him thereJun 30 17:49
schestowitz-TRbut in the pub you don't get to wear 10 different masks over timeJun 30 17:49
schestowitz-TRwe hoped the occasional snub or insult would send the messageJun 30 17:49
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 17:50
Techrights-sec2though I suppose it depends on what his goals are with / against the channelJun 30 17:58
schestowitz-TRnot a mole, for sure, I know the nameJun 30 17:59
thisideupwhy are you talking to the bot?Jun 30 18:00
schestowitz-TRit's not a bot, michaelJun 30 18:02
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:02
thisideupschestowitz- ™®Jun 30 18:02
schestowitz-TRTechRightsJun 30 18:02
thisideuptell it to the kidsJun 30 18:03
schestowitz-TRthe EPO's union and CSC has been eerily quiet this past dayJun 30 18:03
schestowitz-TRI'm thinking the next step is morre indutrial actionJun 30 18:03
schestowitz-TRI've copied some good new comments into #techbytes Jun 30 18:03
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schestowitz-TRI don't trust Kluwer, they already had DB disasters in the past and seevral consecutive days of downtimeJun 30 18:04
schestowitz-TRthey also publish infrequentlyJun 30 18:04
schestowitz-TRthey only get comments when they write about EPO abusesJun 30 18:04
thisideuptheres a new monky island coming upJun 30 18:04
schestowitz-TRmaybe that's a hint to them Jun 30 18:04
schestowitz-TRre topics that need coveringJun 30 18:04
schestowitz-TRyes, I sawJun 30 18:05
schestowitz-TRI loved the games from SierraJun 30 18:05
schestowitz-TRwas it Sierra?Jun 30 18:05
schestowitz-TRLucas?Jun 30 18:05
thisideupits a great game for fencing argumentsJun 30 18:05
schestowitz-TRthis is why we back up "important" (as per topic) comments Jun 30 18:06
schestowitz-TRthey probably will go into a black hole within 5-10 years otherwiseJun 30 18:06
schestowitz-TRjust like LinuxToday and Groklaw commentsJun 30 18:06
schestowitz-TRresigns, dhutdowns, faiiled D-R...Jun 30 18:06
schestowitz-TR*redesignJun 30 18:06
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:06
thisideupMonkey Island™ 2 Special Edition: LeChuck's Revenge™Jun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRhad we had RELIABLE press in Europe, those comments would have little valueJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRyou'd just need the URL of the articlesJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRor the wayback machine for theseJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRbut there is ZERO press coverageJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRthe big story was relagated to "blog comments"Jun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRthose whichh they allowJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRthey cull manyJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRseems EPO now threatsns KluwerJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRlike it had done IP Kat and meJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRbased on an editorial text that they added last weekJun 30 18:08
schestowitz-TRmaybe threats of defamation lawsuitJun 30 18:08
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:09
Techrights-sec2yes there is a lot of lossJun 30 18:09
schestowitz-TRthisideup: I posted a link to that some days agoJun 30 18:09
schestowitz-TRit brought back memoriesJun 30 18:09
schestowitz-TRdosbox can still run the originalJun 30 18:09
schestowitz-TRor scummvmJun 30 18:09
Techrights-sec2I hope they don't knuckle underJun 30 18:09
Techrights-sec2and are able to deal with what sounds like a SLAPPJun 30 18:09
schestowitz-TRyes, I did a video about my impression of itJun 30 18:10
schestowitz-TRwhat typically happens is,Jun 30 18:10
schestowitz-TRthey get cold freetJun 30 18:10
schestowitz-TR*feetJun 30 18:10
schestowitz-TRand then move to another topicJun 30 18:10
schestowitz-TRwhich is what EPO Mafia(TM) wantsJun 30 18:10
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:11
schestowitz-TRthe staff reps must be terribly exhaustedJun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TRin other news, last night we made progress at workJun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TRnow they're willing to consider part-timersJun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TRand run a survey to check interests and preferencesJun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TRdeadline july 8Jun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TRi need to think carefully what to chooseJun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TRlkike which times, days etc.Jun 30 18:13
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:13
schestowitz-TR*likeJun 30 18:13
Techrights-sec28 july is coming up very soonJun 30 18:15
Techrights-sec2tomorrow is already the 1stJun 30 18:15
Techrights-sec2so it's basically a week from nowJun 30 18:15
schestowitz-TRyes, it is on my todo list for tonightJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRamong many other thingsJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRafter I forgoit something earlier today I became super-meticulous in note-takingJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRnot sure if you saw the video about the desk and exerciseJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRsince the above incident I forgot nothing, even when the list gre rather longJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRmy rss feeds are clean except for the opml bits, which i can catch up with in the Jun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRweekend anywayJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRyou already "dilute" them when you go through these, I just swoop through the Jun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRremainder/remains/leftoversJun 30 18:17
Techrights-sec2excellentJun 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRI got some work tasks for tonight and then the "end of month" tasks, which take about 30 mins to completeJun 30 18:18
schestowitz-TRmostly the gemini stuffJun 30 18:18
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Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:19
schestowitz-TRnext week a client (university) is added Jun 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRand it's a quiet oneJun 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRuniversities outsourceJun 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRas they lack sufficient in-house folksJun 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR"Ansible in AWS"Jun 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/england-covid-cases/Jun 30 18:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%)Jun 30 18:40
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:40
Techrights-sec2eww, AWSJun 30 18:40
schestowitz-TRcovid-19 in uk, like epo issue, is me trying to fill up a vacuumJun 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRbecause it's still a big issue which the masses are told to ignoreJun 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRyes, like EPO abusesJun 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRwhen everyone closelyt involved KNOWS it is a catastropheJun 30 18:41
schestowitzcovid-19 + mortality figures are STILL available, but not as frequentlyJun 30 18:42
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 18:50
schestowitz-TROK, I am about to send my formJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRthe way it is laid outJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRrianne and I ask for 16 hours, 8 break, 16 on again, then 5 days offJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRif we get that approvedJun 30 19:08
Techrights-sec2interesting choice of scheduleJun 30 19:08
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRit makes some things simpler and it's weekend, hence quietJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRthere are pros and consJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRlong breaks and less hassle associated with preparingJun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRhandovers etc.Jun 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRmore swift when we take over for 16-hour slotsJun 30 19:09
schestowitz-TRok, finalised for nowJun 30 19:09
schestowitz-TRwhether we get that is another questionJun 30 19:09
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schestowitz"Jun 30 19:22
schestowitzokay… all the user wants is an easy editable file based wiki.Jun 30 19:22
schestowitzWhy exactly should this CSS compiler be needed?Jun 30 19:22
schestowitzthe bloatware dokuwiki currently spans no less than:Jun 30 19:22
schestowitzwget https://download.dokuwiki.org/out/dokuwiki-8186df5bcf8bba07ff8638254a75b094.tgzJun 30 19:22
schestowitztar fxvz dokuwiki-8186df5bcf8bba07ff8638254a75b094.tgzJun 30 19:22
schestowitzfind ./dokuwiki |wc -lJun 30 19:22
schestowitz5579 filesJun 30 19:22
schestowitz"Jun 30 19:22
schestowitz"Jun 30 19:23
schestowitz(much less than some php frameworks… but still a lot of files… with a lot of stuff… that could go wrong)Jun 30 19:23
schestowitzonce again violating UNIX K.I.S.S and leading to disastersJun 30 19:23
schestowitzPS: while a software as complex as DokuWiki has become DEFINATELY contains errors (like a very very faulty SPAM detection mechanism)Jun 30 19:23
schestowitzTthe hel forum https://forum.dokuwiki.org/ is engaging in utter useless “overblocking”.Jun 30 19:23
schestowitzAs soon as the user posts a single example link (even if that link does not even work)Jun 30 19:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-forum.dokuwiki.org | DokuWiki User ForumJun 30 19:23
schestowitzIt is reported as spam and the user is blocked – forever. Be Brave New Web World.Jun 30 19:23
schestowitz"Jun 30 19:23
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Microsoft is down even further, as usual https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/06/30/june-2022-web-server-survey.htmlJun 30 19:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | June 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsJun 30 19:26
Techrights-sec2ackJun 30 19:33
schestowitz-TRthey had come to accept defeat there (like a hydra without mana) but now the strategy is infitrating the winnersJun 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRor cooping Linux (e.g. "Azure", even WSL as a server... yes, I saw some people trying that!!)Jun 30 19:35
Techrights-sec2As mentioned Azure is probably propped up in the budget by ongoing cannibalismJun 30 19:36
Techrights-sec2of other departments. Jun 30 19:36
schestowitz-TRand buyoutJun 30 19:37
schestowitz-TRe.g. buy some embedded OSJun 30 19:37
schestowitz-TRslap the "azure" label on itJun 30 19:37
schestowitz-TRanyting to bolster these illusion of "growth"Jun 30 19:37
psydruidall overly complex solutions will die and be replacedJun 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRlike some wiki softwareJun 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRalmost 6000 filesJun 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRunbelievableJun 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRall you want is a wiki for maybe 10 pagesJun 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRand you end up with this monsterJun 30 19:41
Techrights-sec2M$ has long given the illusion of growth through purchasing.  In general theyJun 30 20:06
Techrights-sec2aim to buy the weakest, crappiest competitor out of the market.  That, forJun 30 20:06
Techrights-sec2example, is how the acquired FrontPageJun 30 20:06
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