IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 30, 2021

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz perhaps democracy will arrive in America in the 22 century a lot worse than 1980 today is animal farm… https://t.co/xhlKL2glj4

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perhaps democracy will arrive in America in the 22 century a lot worse than 1980 today is animal farm smartphones addicts to shop and slave until they die Disappointed but relieved face

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Dumb Americans

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George Carlin on the elite - You Have Rulers | They Own You https://youtu.be/mrw3nSyEvQI via @YouTube

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Aug 30 12:55

schestowitz

I have made another little nudge in gemini's direction. Click on gemini version available on any article in TR. Eventually I want this proxy to be self-hosted, as you may have seen from IRC logs....

Aug 30 13:08

Techrights-sec

interesting. the label could be more clear that it is a proxy and I would

Aug 30 13:14

Techrights-sec

suggest not keeping the result of the proxy inside a frame.

Aug 30 13:14

schestowitz-TR

Ok hang on... also, not sure what "result of the proxy" means, as it cannot be embedded some other way, not easily anyway

Aug 30 13:14

Techrights-sec

After clicking on the link the interaction with the proxy occurs within

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a frame. I'd recommend not using a frame at all and just have it work

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like going to a normal web site. Frames really mess with navigation,

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especially when (mis-)used that way.

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tldr; maybe make it just a normal link and do not worry about 'embedding'

schestowitz-TR

Some proxy software that uses php or js can write directly to the page, so there is an interim step. I just want more people to move off the Web.

Aug 30 13:21

Techrights-sec

ok. However, there are a lot of links, sidebars, frames cluttering the page.

Techrights-sec

If the Gemini link it to be more prominent, some of the other stuff has

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to go.

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Myself, it took a few seconds to find the link you meant after I got to the

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page. That was even after already knowing that it was there.

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Periodic mentions of the Gemini mirror in the actual bodies of the posts

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might be much more effective. They'd certainly be more visible.

schestowitz-TR

I am still waiting to the so-called (what's left of the) 'media' will raise awareness and get adoption of gemini software going, inc. in repos and 'stores' and over time (hopefully) we can change the 'outreach' strategy. At the moment it's thousands of coders working together to popularise the thing.. Today's logs will be full of stuff from leah roew, who moves the libreboot site to gemini and writes more code along the way. oliva will

Aug 30 13:30

schestowitz-TR

speak to gnu devs, as he too likes it

Aug 30 13:30

Techrights-sec

I'm hard pressed to recall if any of the 'media' have covered Gemini.

Aug 30 13:35

Techrights-sec

One of the only ones left might be ITWire in AU.

Aug 30 13:35

schestowitz-TR

the vast majority of that site is shite, spam, and job ads

Aug 30 13:35

Techrights-sec

Sam is still ok there but it's been many months since I've looked at any

Aug 30 13:37

Techrights-sec

other part of their site. I do notice that a search of their site

Aug 30 13:37

Techrights-sec

for 'gemini' turns up nothing at all except some CapGemini spam.

Aug 30 13:37

schestowitz-TR

even Sam does lots of 'obligatory' spam/fluff (or did... for about a month he wrote nothing when I last checked), which is why we removed him from rss bot. also, meduza has not worked in weeks (again)

Aug 30 13:39

Techrights-sec

ok, I'll look at Meduza again. I'm not sure why they keep messing with

Aug 30 13:39

Techrights-sec

their layouts.

Aug 30 13:39

schestowitz-TR

it is usually not a layout thing

Aug 30 13:40

schestowitz-TR

RSS just stops changing for weeks

Aug 30 13:40

schestowitz-TR

maybe some bad encoding breaks a process at the end

Aug 30 13:40

Techrights-sec

:( not much that can be done at this end, do you have a contact there whom

Aug 30 13:41

Techrights-sec

you can ping?

Aug 30 13:41

schestowitz-TR

do not botherl they never even reply

Aug 30 13:41

Techrights-sec

Their RSS feeds has been broken since the 13th or 14th

Aug 30 13:45

schestowitz-TR

Friday the 13th

Aug 30 13:45

schestowitz

one day we can go on the gemini mailing lists to tell them our experience running the site with gemini

Aug 30 13:52

Techrights-sec

Most (nearly all) is highly customized and exceptionally site-specific.

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Some of the ideas might transfer over to other WordPress sites, but

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not so much of the work flow and almost none of the code.

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But that aside, perhaps some would find it interesting to read about if short.