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schestowitz-TRI found 3 links about NYDec 30 00:34
schestowitz-TRadded to TM to raise awarenessDec 30 00:34
schestowitz-TRnot related directly to bsd and gnu/linux, but..Dec 30 00:34
schestowitz-TR.Dec 30 00:34
techrightssec2I'm sure the tie-in is strong, but it is hard to describe.  Both come downDec 30 00:35
techrightssec2to control and ownership.  Dec 30 00:35
schestowitz-TRbrb breakfastDec 30 00:38
techrightssec2  Dec 30 00:38
techrightssec2ackDec 30 00:38
techrightssec2One area of heavy overlap would be the first-sale doctrine:Dec 30 01:05
techrightssec2https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1062822/m2/1/high_res_d/White_Paper_17_USC_109_The_First_Sale_Doctrine-1-.pdfDec 30 01:05
techrightssec2The GPL addresses it clearly but not by name in the various enumerated rights.Dec 30 01:05
schestowitz-TR2.6ml requests in tm-new this monthDec 30 01:41
schestowitz-TRless than old, but old has many images and stuffDec 30 01:41
schestowitz-TRgoing to post daily links in a  momentDec 30 01:41
schestowitz-TR"The sad reality is that every major Tech Publication is directly funded by the very same companies that they cover. Publications writing about Microsoft are funded by ad dollars from Microsoft. Publications writing about Enterprise Linux companies are funded by ad dollars from Enterprise Linux Companies." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/help-the-lunduke-journal-speak-truthDec 30 03:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | Help The Lunduke Journal "Speak Truth to (Tech) Power"Dec 30 03:04
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schestowitzRe: OpenAI Captured by MicrosoftDec 30 06:33
schestowitz> https://youtu.be/kC-o8WW3BRw <https://youtu.be/kC-o8WW3BRw>Dec 30 06:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=kC-o8WW3BRwDec 30 06:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> inv.riverside.rocks | ChatGPT is more dangerous than you think - InvidiousDec 30 06:33
schestowitz> Dec 30 06:33
schestowitz> Thoughts?Dec 30 06:33
schestowitz> Dec 30 06:33
schestowitz> Happy Holidays my friend. I’ll be back on my writing bullshit soon.Dec 30 06:33
schestowitz"OpenAI Captured by Microsoft" sounds like news from years ago. I recently saw that OpenCV too was getting partly captured.Dec 30 06:33
schestowitzDo you know many layoffs are planned or rumoured for next month? Dec 30 06:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Layoffs#2022Dec 30 06:33
schestowitzBTW, I quit my employer this month. SeeDec 30 06:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft - Layoffs - TechrightsDec 30 06:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_SourceDec 30 06:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Sirius Open Source - TechrightsDec 30 06:33
schestowitz-TROTADec 30 06:46
schestowitz-TRit looks like bankruptcy might be imminentDec 30 06:46
schestowitz-TRunpaid bills to hosts, no office, address changesDec 30 06:46
techrightssec2Will Andy's series have two more parts?  It seems he has left part 3 at a cliffDec 30 08:46
techrightssec2hanger.Dec 30 08:46
schestowitz-TRlt me check Dec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TR*letDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRthe timestam says 24-12Dec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRafetr i had asked him to split it he didDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRi compared the snapshot I got 27th to nowDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRthey are identical, not just the date stampDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRso tomorrow if final partDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TR*isDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRI put a video of his lecture in irc last nigtt/todayDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRdid some further digging for better images of hisDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRone was copyrighted, you see him 15 yeras ago (2007)Dec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRno beardDec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TR"all rights reserved"Dec 30 08:49
techrightssec2checkingDec 30 08:49
techrightssec2GAFAM also deterimines both the curriculum and teaching methods for more thanDec 30 08:49
techrightssec2only CS and ICT, seeing as all courses now are dependent on lab use.  Dec 30 08:49
schestowitz-TRas you rightly note, A LOT, this imperils local culture, heritage, tradition, professional methods,Dec 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRacross a spectrum of thingsDec 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRthose "Tech" giantss are a cultural threat greater than tiktokDec 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRtiktok does not have that much impact on corporations, schools, gov.Dec 30 08:54
schestowitz-TRmostly pupils and one-time "useds"Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TR(like drugs; or social "drinking")Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRyou now have people speaking in foreign accents with nforeign dialect and slangDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRdancing the dances of a distant nationDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRand behaving towards people are seen on TV (or "social control media"... whhat does tiktok call those?Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TR"tiks"?)Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TR"|shorts"?Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRso those companies program companies, schools, politiciansDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRand can cause behaviour and perceptions to adaptDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRbecause those "apps" or "cloud things" in schoolsDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRget to spend more time with people than people nearby Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRand actively rob thopse other people accessDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRso the dining table has "phones"Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRfrom 2 hours face-to-face (family) it's down to 20 minutesDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRand the rest occupied with fake friends and "mr algorithm"Dec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRone fucking piece of shit relative of rianne was literally wearing headphones inside the restaurantDec 30 08:55
schestowitz-TRon the dining table (2017, IIRC)Dec 30 08:55
techrightssec2I would say that tiktok has an enormous, outsized influence on schools becauseDec 30 08:57
techrightssec2it has captured one or two entire generations and removed them from the cultureDec 30 08:57
techrightssec2their geographical placement would have otherwised allowed / caused them to Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2inherit.Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2ADHD is already pervasive, some of it, in some people, is a learned trait.Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2Whether it can be unlearned is of great concern to the survival of the nation.Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2Not even 20 minutes since many are on their skinnerboxes throughout the mealDec 30 08:57
techrightssec2either actively or it occupies their thoughts while in their pocket.Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2while at the table.Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2EFF calls that "algospeak" rather than making a nod to the established Dec 30 08:57
techrightssec2perjorative, "newspeak", coined by Orwell.  That hurts by making the old bodyDec 30 08:57
techrightssec2of literature about the problem less visible while also pretending that itDec 30 08:57
techrightssec2is a new, unexplored problem instead of a dangerous, old problem which hasDec 30 08:57
techrightssec2worsened severely.  Dec 30 08:57
schestowitz-TRthis was covered in passing by andyDec 30 08:59
schestowitz-TRhow GAFAM (no, Microsoft mostly!) tries to "correct" what words he should use in his messageDec 30 08:59
schestowitz-TRnext step is using HEY HI to "think" for himDec 30 08:59
schestowitz-TRand "plagiarise" (write) for himDec 30 08:59
techrightssec2Yes, that is one example.     Dec 30 08:59
techrightssec2Think, maybe, but the bossing around is already here: "newspeak" / "algospeak"Dec 30 08:59
techrightssec2Youtube and Tiktok both do it to people.Dec 30 08:59
schestowitz-TRyou can say "Linux" in youtube titlesDec 30 09:01
schestowitz-TRbut there will be consequencesDec 30 09:01
schestowitz-TRso better not!Dec 30 09:01
schestowitz-TRwho was that prof who spoke of adapting behaviour based on punishment and cautioning?Dec 30 09:01
schestowitz-TR(twitter does lots of this)Dec 30 09:01
schestowitz-TR(not just the words, also the positions/stances you're permitted to a) have and b) express)Dec 30 09:01
schestowitz[06:33] <schestowitz> BTW, I quit my employer this month. SeeDec 30 09:20
schestowitz[06:33] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_SourceDec 30 09:20
schestowitz> Congrats! Man I love being out of the tech space \U0001f923Dec 30 09:20
schestowitzYou still know tech. You just get bossed less ;-)Dec 30 09:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Sirius Open Source - TechrightsDec 30 09:21
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schestowitz-TRbiabDec 30 09:41
schestowitz-TRback in about 40 minsDec 30 09:41
schestowitz-TRworkoutDec 30 09:41
schestowitz-TRweird sleeping times lately, but it works ok, it gets dark around 4pm anywayDec 30 09:41
techrightssec2ackDec 30 09:42
techrightssec2I would say that the censoring of positions, opinions, and stances is one of th3main activities and goals of sociDec 30 09:42
techrightssec2al control media.  There has also been a       Dec 30 09:42
techrightssec2terrible distraction about that, trying to conflate free speech with illegalDec 30 09:42
techrightssec2and or unpopular and or unethical positions and activities.Dec 30 09:42
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schestowitz-TRNowadays you get people who say stuff like "your job title is outdated" instead of focusing on skills and experience. That's the BUZZWORD/S generation, veneer instead of substance. MBAs and marketing liars dominating over the geeks (1990s). They also push hostile things into companies that harm themselves.Dec 30 11:31
schestowitz-TRin a nutshell, the company wanted to pretend to be hip and trendy and "mondern"Dec 30 11:32
schestowitz-TRwanting us to learn buzzwords and use crapDec 30 11:32
schestowitz-TRbecaue "novel" and "newer"Dec 30 11:32
schestowitz-TRand that only accelerated the demiseDec 30 11:32
schestowitz-TRAfter decades in the making it is already stable. Leave it alone. Stop trying to 'fix' (or replace) what's not broken, IBM, Intel, GAFAM https://www.phoronix.com/news/XServer-2022-Development-PaceDec 30 11:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-X11 Server Development Pace Hits A Two Decade Low - PhoronixDec 30 11:35
techrightssec2appeal to novelty -- yet another fallacy used to promote crapDec 30 11:35
schestowitz-TRI use many x toolsDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRwayland does NOT have feature parityaDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRand it NOT compatibleDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRbut they don't care about moving fast and breaking thingsDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRthey make more sales this wayDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRthey even change branch names and break thingsDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRbecause some fictional peopple said "master" offends themDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRI think they just troll the community and projectDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRbecause of ICE etcDec 30 11:37
schestowitz-TRprojecting, provoking, splitting communities along lines of perceived toleranceDec 30 11:37
techrightssec2Wayland can't even do remote forwarding of graphical applications.  ThatDec 30 11:40
techrightssec2made me lose interest in it.  However, that lack of functionality will probablyDec 30 11:40
techrightssec2ensure that clowns everywhere push for it.Dec 30 11:40
psydruidWayland doesn't even work on my laptopDec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRit cripples gnu/linux and moreDec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRit removed something we've had and bragged about for over 2 decadesDec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRand pushes crap like citrix and, as you note, clownDec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRreddit robertson like waylandDec 30 11:41
techrightssec2It is crippled and will cripple.Dec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: buy a new one!!Dec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRone with U/EFI tooDec 30 11:41
psydruidLolDec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRstop being cheap!!Dec 30 11:41
schestowitz-TRBIOS is "legacy" nowDec 30 11:42
psydruidI was planning for this to be my last x86 laptopDec 30 11:42
techrightssec2ackDec 30 11:42
techrightssec2x86 is up to half the problem thereDec 30 12:00
schestowitz-TRit can and should be undercutDec 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRI see lots of riscv articles latelyDec 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRtoday i sub;ed to adsfruit over rssDec 30 12:01
psydruidthe problem with x86 is all the proprietary software that requires it and just doesn't move anywhere else, so people simply stick with itDec 30 12:04
techrightssec2Should the link taxomony change energy to energy/transportation ?Dec 30 12:20
schestowitz-TRmaybe the title can be expanded to fakecoinsDec 30 12:21
schestowitz-TRas some people get confused as to why it's thereDec 30 12:21
techrightssec2Fakecoins are a waste of energy.  When there are fake coin articles there areDec 30 12:39
techrightssec2usually also some there about what a waste of electricity they are.Dec 30 12:39
techrightssec2I hope few scripts break the day after tomorrow.Dec 30 12:44
schestowitz-TRi did not know a omglinux site existedDec 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRworth adding via rss?Dec 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRis that the shit /. linked to, shilling wsl via some amazon guy?Dec 30 13:05
techrightssec2not sureDec 30 13:22
techrightssec2checkingDec 30 13:22
techrightssec2I haven't looked at /. for years though, which link ?Dec 30 13:22
techrightssec2The first two pages of aricles look ok at OMGLinux, the third page does mentinoDec 30 13:22
techrightssec2^mentionDec 30 13:22
techrightssec2one m$ program but the topic there is the GNU/Linux versionDec 30 13:22
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Dumb, harmful, and misleading clickbait from a Valve shill https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UtA0j4ePAo4Dec 30 13:59
schestowitz-TR[TechrightsSocial] yewtu.be | Microsoft ♥ Steam Deck. *Ominous musical sting* - InvidiousDec 30 13:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Microsoft ♥ Steam Deck. *Ominous musical sting* - InvidiousDec 30 13:59
schestowitz-TR"My boss lied all of the time. Despite the fact that it was relatively easy to know they were lying, they didn't care. If you called them out on it, they'd either ignore that, change the subject or somehow try to turn it back around on you." https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/12/pop-goes-the-gaslighting-weaselDec 30 15:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jaylittle.com | Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Pop Goes the Gaslighting WeaselDec 30 15:01
schestowitz-TRnot only timely but very relevantDec 30 15:23
schestowitz-TRlobbying ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/29/after-dumb-lobbying-delays-and-ample-watering-down-ny-passes-landmark-right-to-repair-bill/ | Source: TechdirtDec 30 15:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-After Dumb Lobbying Delays And Ample Watering Down, NY Passes Landmark ‘Right To Repair’ Bill | TechdirtDec 30 15:30
techrightssec2Unfortunately it is not a landmark bill but and empty shell.Dec 30 15:31
schestowitz-TRlife is full of "I wish I had realized that earlier" momentDec 30 15:33
schestowitz-TRit's a very fundamental part of lifeDec 30 15:33
schestowitz-TRotherwise, people would never date, just marryDec 30 15:33
schestowitz-TRand never change jobs etc. Dec 30 15:33
schestowitz-TR...Dec 30 15:35
schestowitz-TReverything other than external mouse was always not acceptableDec 30 15:35
schestowitz-TRI rejected all the other optionsDec 30 15:35
schestowitz-TRthey are just something to be used when a surface is missing, e.g. travelDec 30 15:35
schestowitz-TRon some laptops, like all the 4 in front of me right now, there's about 6-7cm in which you can moveDec 30 15:39
schestowitz-TRthe small external mice with very high dpi settingDec 30 15:39
schestowitz-TRand then use that as a surfaceDec 30 15:39
schestowitz-TRthough small mice and high dpi have their own limitations, esp. when you need precisionDec 30 15:40
schestowitz-TRa scandinavian sotre in bury, greater manchester has a whole range of laptop "bridges"Dec 30 15:40
schestowitz-TRthey are cheap and go above the lap or table or sofa or bedDec 30 15:40
schestowitz-TRthey can also help hold a drink/foodDec 30 15:40
techrightssec2I think I've seen photos of thoseDec 30 15:40
schestowitz-TRbeofre I knew they existed or what they were called I improvised by turning shelves into surfaces and putting theDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRm on the lapDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRI even did this years agoDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRmany furniture types havs detachable levelsDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRthose lack "feet" throughDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRoneDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRoption is, lay on armrestDec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRargos here sells those too, we found them no sooner than 2020Dec 30 15:42
schestowitz-TRthew "proper" oneDec 30 15:43
schestowitz-TRbirthday giftDec 30 15:43
schestowitz-TR"I do not and have never used a smartphone." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/30/unmediated-community-ten-years-of-the-invisible-army/ | Source: Counter PunchDec 30 15:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Unmediated Community – Ten Years of The Invisible Army - CounterPunch.orgDec 30 15:44
techrightssec2ackDec 30 15:46
schestowitz-TRrianne spoke to her cousin today in mumbleDec 30 15:51
schestowitz-TRit sounds like prices of flights more then doubledDec 30 15:51
schestowitz-TRnever mind safety, inconvenience etc.Dec 30 15:51
schestowitz-TRI told herDec 30 15:51
schestowitz-TRgoodDec 30 15:51
schestowitz-TRthe end of an eraDec 30 15:51
schestowitz-TRflights SHOULD be expensive like they used to beDec 30 15:51
techrightssec2Flights are terrible for humanity, especially the way Little Bush set the  Dec 30 15:52
techrightssec2airports up to mistreat people.  Nowadays everyone is a prisoner suspectedDec 30 15:52
techrightssec2of additional crimes rather than pre-Bush where they were valued customersDec 30 15:52
techrightssec2(for various values). Dec 30 15:52
techrightssec2Flights should be *way* more expensive if the fossile carbon emissions areDec 30 15:52
techrightssec2taken into account.  But then those are mostly "business-class" emissionsDec 30 15:52
techrightssec2though all to much are also vacationers.Dec 30 15:52
techrightssec2https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fact-sheet-the-growth-in-greenhouse-gas-emissions-from-commercial-aviationDec 30 15:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eesi.org | Issue Brief | The Growth in Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Commercial Aviation (2019, revised 2022) | White Papers | EESIDec 30 15:54
schestowitz-TRmy last time was berlinDec 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRwith  no imminent plan, seeing what happens in uk and ireland with death tollsDec 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRregardless of how they "classify" those deaths Dec 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRthe benefits of good hygiene extend well beyond being covid-freeDec 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRwashing food, shut lids, clean a lot, mask when outDec 30 15:56
techrightssec2the contrails also have affected the weather.  The "old" farmers had observedDec 30 15:57
techrightssec2that, but they are long dead and their observations dismissed at the time.Dec 30 15:57
techrightssec2However, "post-911" there have been several reductions in air traffic andDec 30 15:57
techrightssec2the effect of the lack of contrails observed and confirmed.Dec 30 15:57
schestowitz-TRthe straw man here is "chemtrails"Dec 30 15:57
schestowitz-TRseems everything has a straw man nowDec 30 15:57
schestowitz-TRg5, covid etc.Dec 30 15:57
techrightssec2Yes, "chemtrails" probably is even traceable back to the fossil industry, orDec 30 15:59
techrightssec2at least if that were found I would not be surprised in the least.  The otherDec 30 15:59
techrightssec2is balthering about carbon sinks and conflating biocarbon cycles with Dec 30 15:59
techrightssec2fossil fuel carbon cycles.  The two are unrelated but the fossile fuel industryDec 30 15:59
techrightssec2has confused the politicians to the point that they are yammering aboutDec 30 15:59
techrightssec2the wrong topics and distracting from the *ongoing* fossil carbon emissionsDec 30 15:59
schestowitz-TRthere is a logical fallacy pattern hereDec 30 16:01
schestowitz-TRsex trafficking --> "not new" --> "some cultures" -> "like stealing a bagel"Dec 30 16:01
schestowitz-TRthere is industrial revolution pollution -> "sun cycles" -> "volcanos" -> there was ice age...Dec 30 16:01
schestowitz-TRtrivialising the wrong humans do by making it sound inherent, natural, unavoidableDec 30 16:01
schestowitz-TRkrebs on sec turns 13thDec 30 16:03
schestowitz-TRcongrats on independence, BUTDec 30 16:03
schestowitz-TRwhy so few articles?Dec 30 16:03
schestowitz-TRiirc, he did a lot moreDec 30 16:03
schestowitz-TRand over time less and lessDec 30 16:03
schestowitz-TReven if in-deapthDec 30 16:03
schestowitz-TR*turns 13, on the 29thDec 30 16:03
techrightssec2Perhaps he has been spending more time investigating.  His cycle used to includeDec 30 16:16
techrightssec2frequent quiet intervals followed by big news.  Dec 30 16:16
techrightssec2So maybe all the easy exposés have been used up already and the clumsier  Dec 30 16:16
techrightssec2criminals already culled, aside from those in Redmond.Dec 30 16:16
schestowitz-TRPolice has already used drones, robots, and suicide bombs against people in the USA. The media seems to be missing this or leaving it out intentionally. Dorner was one example, but in later examples the police deployed self-exploding robots or bomb delivery robotics. "Stopping" this from "commencing" misses the point that it started years ago. EFF asleep at the wheel.Dec 30 18:10
schestowitz-TRadding to automated feeds?Dec 30 18:30
techrightssec2Apropos Windows TCO : https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/12/arresting-it-administrators.htmlDec 30 18:59
techrightssec2They need to go after the managers who signed off on m$ deployments.Dec 30 18:59
techrightssec2not just the administrators, though they are guilty tooDec 30 18:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Arresting IT Administrators - Schneier on SecurityDec 30 18:59
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