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schestowitz"AVIF is supported by Chrome, Chromium, Firefox. I’ve tested Firefox and Chromium on Linux, Firefox, Chrome and Safari on macOS and iOS, as well as Firefox and Chrome on Android. All work well and the article images are loaded properly.Sep 01 03:00
schestowitzHowever, do to the fact that Twitter and Facebook preview cards cannot fetch AVIF images yet, I will continue using WebP for the featured image and AVIF only for the images that I will be insterting in articles.Sep 01 03:00
schestowitzCheers!Sep 01 03:00
schestowitz"Sep 01 03:00
schestowitzWe have added AVIF support ;-) !!Sep 01 03:02
schestowitz> Awesome, thanks :)Sep 01 03:02
schestowitz> Btw, the AVIF (AV1) format is up to 70% smaller in size at the same Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> picture quality or even better than WebP, so my website and any other Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> website would load a lot faster with minimal effort :)Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> But I guess it will take a while for major players (Twitter, Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> Facebook) to fully adopt AV1… they just added support for WebP earlier Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> this year… now WebP is the star in lossy image formats, but I hope AV1 Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> adoption will grow rapidly by the end of the year.Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> Sep 01 03:04
schestowitz> Also, there’s JPEG-XL coming fast from behind :)Sep 01 03:04
schestowitzpeople have much faster connections now. so I think cross-platform/browser support should also be a factor. many of my machines still lack support for webp.Sep 01 03:04
MinceRcoming from behind, eh? eh?Sep 01 03:06
schestowitzyes!Sep 01 03:08
schestowitzRMS:Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz>    > You were recently contacted by one of the allies of Garrett, whoSep 01 03:08
schestowitz>    > intentionally trolls you (he boasted about this in IRC). He said youSep 01 03:08
schestowitz>    > referred him to the FSF's IT person.Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> He brought up something for which that was the appropriate reply.Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> Maybe he asked us to deleted something posted.  It is our sysadmins whoSep 01 03:08
schestowitz> carry out our policies for personal deletion requests.Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> I told him we have had no contact with Matthew Garrett for many yearsSep 01 03:08
schestowitz> and he is not a friend of ours, so I did not want to get involvedSep 01 03:08
schestowitz> in the dispute between him and you, or spend time studying it.Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> Sep 01 03:08
schestowitz> He said one thing that made me wonder, though: that you were firedSep 01 03:08
schestowitz> from a job recently and were upset about that.  I won't take his wordSep 01 03:08
schestowitz> for anything, but could you tell me what part of that is true?Sep 01 03:08
schestowitzI resigned last December after he had doxed me (and my wife too) to the employer. I will forward you something...Sep 01 03:08
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schestowitzSoftware patents confirmed:Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz-------- Forwarded Message --------Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzSubject: Re: ...Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzDate: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 08:39:52 +0300Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzxxxxxxxxxxxxxSep 01 12:15
schestowitzTo: Roy Schestowitz <r@schestowitz.com>Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzOn 9/1/23 05:04, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 31/08/2023 18:01:Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> Btw, the AVIF (AV1) format is up to 70% smaller in size at the sameSep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> picture quality or even better than WebP, so my website and any otherSep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> website would load a lot faster with minimal effort :)Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>>Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> But I guess it will take a while for major players (Twitter,Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> Facebook) to fully adopt AV1… they just added support for WebP earlierSep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> this year… now WebP is the star in lossy image formats, but I hope AV1Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> adoption will grow rapidly by the end of the year.Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>>Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>> Also, there’s JPEG-XL coming fast from behind :)Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz>Sep 01 12:15
schestowitz> people have much faster connections now. so I thinkSep 01 12:15
schestowitz> cross-platform/browser support should also be a factor. many of mySep 01 12:15
schestowitz> machines still lack support for webp.Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzhttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1178058#c406Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzhttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/04/free-software-group-decries-google-dropping-space-saving-jpeg-xl-format/Sep 01 12:15
schestowitzsw patentsSep 01 12:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-bugs.chromium.org | 1178058 - chromium - An open-source project to help move the web forward. - MonorailSep 01 12:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | FSF: Chrome’s JPEG XL killing shows how the web works under browser hegemony | Ars TechnicaSep 01 12:15
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DaemonFC"Sneyers' less optimistic predictions came true, though not with regard to royalties. Apple, Google, and Mozilla got behind AV1F instead. AV1F display support is already baked into Android 12, macOS 13, iOS 16, and a bunch of browsers (though not Microsoft's Edge, curiously)."Sep 01 23:30
DaemonFCLOLSep 01 23:30
MinceR> baked into [...] macOS [...] iOSSep 01 23:33
MinceRso how many patents does the MPEG LA own over it?Sep 01 23:33
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/01/google-shows-why-it-has-too-much-power-over-the-web-by-dropping-jpeg-xl-support-more-firefox-musings/Sep 01 23:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google Shows Why it Has Too Much Power Over the Web By Dropping JPEG-XL Support. More Firefox Musings. | BaronHK's RantsSep 01 23:55
DaemonFC"Google sucks. They (and Apple) are causing the very proliferation of pointlessly different formats they accuse JPEG-XL of."Sep 01 23:56
DaemonFC"There are too many image formats out there that are not clearly different enough from each other. I even have some WebP photos because it’s all I could get a Web server to give me."Sep 01 23:56
DaemonFC"One of the problems with all these “even better than JPEG” formats is the patents, but another is the support, like when you try to send off to Walmart’s photo lab for prints.Sep 01 23:57
DaemonFCMy spouse’s damned iPhone shoots to HEIF files, which are cumbersome to store in an authentic JPEG standard to send to be developed.Sep 01 23:57
DaemonFCQuite often there is even additional file data which is parsed out, making the thing look a bit worse than if he had a device, like Android, which shoots to JPEG to begin with.Sep 01 23:57
DaemonFCI’m getting real sick of all these damn Google image formats. I was really hoping JPEG-XL would come about and be the de-facto standard for the next 30 years or so.Sep 01 23:57
DaemonFCBut it looks like we’re in for an endless bout of Google codecs that last 3-5 years before they’re onto something else. They never stop and support what they do.Sep 01 23:57
DaemonFCAt the first chance they get, they will ditch it and run."Sep 01 23:57
DaemonFC"There are too many image formats out there that are not clearly different enough from each other. I even have some WebP photos because it’s all I could get a Web server to give me.Sep 01 23:58
DaemonFCNow Google is walking away from that, and I’ll undoubtedly have some “AV1F”s at some point too."Sep 01 23:58

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