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| schestowitz | > Added newmatilda.com to the automatic RSS feed script. It grabs the | Dec 01 05:53 |
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| schestowitz | > summary but that might not always be the best part to quote. The PWC | Dec 01 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > feed might cause duplicates if the old challenges persist in RSS past | Dec 01 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > the end of this month. | Dec 01 05:53 |
| schestowitz | I have a polite question. Not demand :-) just query. | Dec 01 05:53 |
| schestowitz | How hard would it be to add about 5 newlines between different feed sources? Sometimes I do this manually to help me not post from the same source twice or more in succession. Each site is a sort of "block" of several items (one or more). | Dec 01 05:53 |
| schestowitz | No response yet to a question I asked about Alpine HV as a webserver. I might ask again after the holidays (this weekend). | Dec 01 05:53 |
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| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1047054746258219008?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1047054746258219008:0:0:0:1047297715014434816 | Dec 01 17:55 |
| acer-box | " | Dec 01 17:55 |
| acer-box | Even NASA says the climate model is fucked | Dec 01 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists | Dec 01 17:55 | |
| acer-box | https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/rossow_01/computer.html | Dec 01 17:55 |
| acer-box | " | Dec 01 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.giss.nasa.gov | NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Cloud Climatology: Computer Models | Dec 01 17:55 | |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1046717359739879424?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1046717359739879424:0:0:0:1047285222482878464 | Dec 01 17:55 |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1046945465271488512 | Dec 01 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | ● NEWS ● #iraq #chile ☞ Protest Song Of The Week: ‘Iraq2Chile (Martyrs of Hope)’ By Lowkey Featuring Mai Khalil https://shadowproof.com/2019/11/27/protest-song-of-the-week-iraq2chile-martyrs-of-hope-by-lowkey-featuring-mai-khalil/ | Dec 01 17:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | Chile: carabineros heridos por bomba molotov | Dec 01 17:55 | |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1046945465271488512 | Dec 01 17:55 |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1046947388079812608 | Dec 01 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | Saquean hotel Costa Real en La Serena | Dec 01 17:55 | |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1047456170933301248?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1047456170933301248:0:0:0:1047459983526166528 | Dec 01 17:57 |
| acer-box | "it's not annexation. where is the war if it's annexation?" | Dec 01 17:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | Apple, Bowing to Russian Pressure, Recognizes Crimea Annexation on Map | Dec 01 17:57 | |
| acer-box | No need to fight back when the invader has 10k+ nukes | Dec 01 17:57 |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1047451130868760576?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1047451130868760576:0:0:0:1047453379972825088 | Dec 01 17:57 |
| acer-box | "bill warner google him" | Dec 01 17:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | 2 Killed in London Stabbings; Police Fatally Shoot Suspected Attacker | Dec 01 17:57 | |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1047452741347287040?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1047452741347287040:0:0:0:1047453173193637888 | Dec 01 17:58 |
| acer-box | "v" | Dec 01 17:58 |
| acer-box | "plz send me .1 token i have send u .25 token" | Dec 01 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | ● NEWS ● #eu #europe ☞ The Future of #Internet #Regulation at the #EuropeanParliament https://ar.al/2019/11/29/the-future-of-internet-regulation-at-the-european-parliament/ | Dec 01 17:58 | |
| acer-box | https://www.minds.com/media/1047387696567386112?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1047387696567386112:0:0:0:1047388193189756928 | Dec 01 17:58 |
| acer-box | "OpenBSD ?" | Dec 01 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.minds.com | The takeover gets worse each year. Last month: http://techrights.org/2019/11/26/microsoft-linux-entryism-2019/ | Dec 01 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16139306#eccdd560c9520137099b7a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 13 #Python Natural Language Processing Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/python-natural-language-processing-tools/ #programming | Dec 01 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | With function annotations or the equivalent you can exploit the rich Python expression syntax by executing the code object over an ad hoc environment and then interpret the resulting forest as things like BNF grammars, Markov process, or group presentations. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Expression syntax has an imperative interpretation in Python, as in so many languages. The sequential imperative interpretation forbids the expression of recursion with a=E(b) ; b=E’(a). It is however easy to steal the Python parser’s work and express a recursive many-dimensional equation as a sequence of syntactically correct Python assignment statements, via a three step process. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | First step, provide concise source code, in syntactically correct Python as the code of a function, for the equational definition of the parser-like object you want. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxlinks.com | 13 Python Natural Language Processing Tools - LinuxLinks | Dec 01 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Second step, get from the function object the list of function locals and the code object. With the function locals concoct an appropriate environment so that execution of the code object over that environment provides you with – reduced parse trees; a reduced representation of the intention of the function contents in the non-Python, “declarative” interpretation. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Compile further that object into code for an curtailed downstream process. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Or, more simply, pass the object to a specialized interpreter to achieve the behavior wanted from that declarative interpretation of the function contents. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | All of which are beyond my skill level. Oh well… | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | experts often invite people to start on the expert or intermediate level. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | on the one hand, it shows the great faith they have in people to catch up. its sort of a compliment. then again, most of us (in terms of numbers) are going to need to start a bit closer to the beginner level of things. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | That’s why I’m looking for “helpful” tools. I have this idea for a project - implementing the zend php interpreter in lisp or scheme. The best path forward seems to be to use the tools supplied by Racket. But even these are not user-friendly - and some do not even work! | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Boris B | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Boris B - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Actually it’s not that complicated. It’s a trick I stumbled upon in high school to exploit the Fortran IV parser in order to enable close-to-BNF grammar encoded as a sequence of Fortran IV assignments, (a) substituting my own routines/functions to the standard arithmetic library (called in an non-optimized and stereotyped way by the produced machine language, as the interpretation of Fortran IV expression syntax by the Fortran IV compiler) | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | , and having (b) those substituted routines/functions modify the machine language sequence of their own calling to turn it into an exploitable representation of the grammar encoded in “surface Fortran”. Something like a parse tree except it wasn’t an acyclic graph and much less a tree. Finally © I exploited the grammar encoded in that object with code that generated random productions of the grammar (easier to do than a parser). | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I used this same trick a second time, much more recently, in a comment on a blog post in John Baez’s Azimuth’s blog, to “compile” Markov process descriptions. I tried to find a record, failed, and instead tried to depict how it was made in more abstract terms. I believe however there is a mistake in what I told you, the “declarative intent” Python function contents will likely need to be a sequence of expressions rather than a | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | sequence of assignment statements, with some chosen operator (like ‘<’) substituting for assignment. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | It was like 80 lines of Python code IIRC. | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Boris B | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Boris B - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I guess this would deserve bringing to toolkit form. Self-modifying code is like nuclear chemistry, overpowered, yet this is at the benign extreme of it, and (just now as I contemplate it again after years) an interesting challenge to maybe update myself to python 3.8 with (I’ve stalled at the 2.0 line). | Dec 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | The self-evident warmup exercise would be to turn the told trick into a meta-circular syntax checker for the severe restriction of the full Python syntax made explicit by its own application. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Rationale, as previously described, the trick leads to totally brittle realizations relative to Python-perfect (or Fortran IV-perfect) faulty inputs (Reminiscent of SQL-injection vulnerability). So even if we forward the input to Python in general, we want to do some checks… and return sensible error messages for faulty inputs. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://shenlanguage.org/shendoc.htm#Kl | Dec 01 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shenlanguage.org | Shen Doc | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | If I understand some of what is described under this URL, the author used some self-modifying, self-generating minimal-lisp code to build a much larger and more functional language (which is also lisp-like, but probably did not have to be). | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Boris B | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Boris B - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | the author used some self-modifying, self-generating minimal-lisp code to build a much larger and more functional language (which is also lisp-like, but probably did not have to be). | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I think noteworthy that this way to put it, as it conflates the “minimal-lisp” language with the code written in it, involves a reduction or inversion. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | If I read correctly, while what the author wrote there as code, indeed involves such a building of a more functional language implemented on top of a minimal language, what the author really did started from a maximal language of his design that he’d already implemented (on top of Common Lisp), to derive from it the design of a minimal language. A minimal language with the precise purpose in existence to reduce the task of porting the | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | maximal language, to a simplified task of porting just it, the minimal language. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Of course the author had to port his maximal language to his minimal language in the process, and in that sense he “used” the latter. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | This approach appears very similar to PyPy and RPython. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Could the author have designed the minimal language to be less of a simplification/restriction of the maximal language, and more of a distinct language? Well, it’s ambiguous. There are particular advantages to having your minimal language a sublanguage of your maximal language, both technical and non-technical. | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Boris B | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Boris B - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I just found again my Azimuth comment where I’d defined a DSL for Petri Nets is 66 lines of Python code (including a minimal interpretor) along the lines I detailed above. It’s here https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2012/10/01/petri-net-programming/#comment-20548 | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | from __future__ import print_function | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | from collections import Counter | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | class Bag(Counter) : | Dec 01 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com | Petri Net Programming (Part 1) | Azimuth | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | weight=1 | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | transitions=[] | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | output={} | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | def __rmul__(self, other) : | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | return Bag({s:n*other for s,n in self.items()}) | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | def __add__(self,other) : | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | return Bag(Counter.__add__(self,other)) | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | def __rshift__(self,other) : | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | self.output=other | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | self.transitions.append(self) | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | return self | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | def __ror__(self,other) : | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | self.weight=other | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | return self | Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | def __call__(self,other) : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | return Bag(other-self+self.output) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | def __repr__(self) : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | return '+'.join("%s*%s" % (n,s) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | for s,n in sorted(self.items()) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | if n) or '{}' | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | def petrinet(fun) : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | code = getattr(fun,'__code__',0) or fun.func_code | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | species={ n : Bag([n]) for n in code.co_names } | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | species['_'] = Bag() | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | Bag.transitions[:]=[] | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | eval(code,species,{}) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | transitions=Bag.transitions[:] | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | for n,t in zip(code.co_varnames,transitions): | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | t.name=n | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | del species['__builtins__'] | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | del species['_'] | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | def petrirun(**labelling) : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | from random import random | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | from itertools import count | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | labelling=Bag(labelling) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | for step in count(1) : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | possible=[t for t in transitions if t == t & labelling] | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | if not possible : break | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | pick=random()*sum(t.weight for t in possible) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | for k,transition in enumerate(possible) : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | pick-=transition.weight | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | if pick<=0 : | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | labelling=transition(labelling) | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | yield step,transition.name,labelling | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | break | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | petrirun.species=species | Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz | petrirun.transitions=transitions | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | return petrirun | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | It allows to define petri nets with | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | @petrinet | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | def AIDS() : | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | α = 0.1 | _ >> healthy | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | β = healthy+virion >> infected | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | γ = 0.2 | healthy >> _ | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | δ = 0.3 | infected >> _ | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε = infected >> infected+virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ζ = 0.2 | virion >> _ | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | @petrinet | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | def rabbits_and_wolves() : | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | birth = rabbit >> 2*rabbit | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | predation = rabbit+wolf >> 2*wolf | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | death = 0.3 | wolf >> _ | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | @petrinet | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | def chemical_reaction() : | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | split = H2O >> 2*H+O | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | combine = 2*H+O >> H2O | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | and runs do this | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >>> for step,transition,labelling in AIDS(healthy=5,virion=5): | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | print(transition,"==>",labelling) | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | if step>10 : break | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | β ==> 4*healthy+1*infected+4*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε ==> 4*healthy+1*infected+5*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | β ==> 3*healthy+2*infected+4*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | β ==> 2*healthy+3*infected+3*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε ==> 2*healthy+3*infected+4*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | β ==> 1*healthy+4*infected+3*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε ==> 1*healthy+4*infected+4*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | β ==> 5*infected+3*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε ==> 5*infected+4*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε ==> 5*infected+5*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | ε ==> 5*infected+6*virion | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for posting! | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16475416#46407d70e65701371e8f7a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2017: "Maajid Nawaz calls them the “Regressive Left.” Others call them SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) or the Alt-Left... secular religion." http://archive.is/aD8WB#selection-277.53-277.252 | Dec 01 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Perhaps “fake left” sounds too much like you-know-who. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 20 days ago | Dec 01 18:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> archive.is | Attention Required! | Dec 01 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | me? ive said “fake left” several times. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 20 days ago | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | It begins with a “T”, or was it a “D”. Consonant drift… | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 20 days ago | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | i knew you meant him. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | the fact is that the #1 enemy of the left is the “left” because theyre already everywhere the left is, and they are committed to its failure. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | im constantly disgusted with the “left” but not constantly disgusted with the left. and im open to the idea that theyre the same thing, but the evidence doesnt seem to point that way. the “left” is progressive the same way that corporations have “communities”-- i like the term “regressive left.” some people might think that implies the entire left, but either way the “left” is incredibly regressive. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 20 days ago | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The “left” is also incredibly diverse (and divided). I very much even hesitate to use that label myself. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 20 days ago | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | It should suffice to see what activities someone engages in. Jill Stein was one of the very few noteworthy politicians to actually go to Standing Rock - where she was arrested. | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The labels progressives, left, and liberal were distorted. Even antifascist are now portrayed as anarchists, so just avoid labels and associations | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "Remember the Bocelli CD you made me? xxx and I listen to it these days.." | Dec 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16641092#8a395bb0f5df01371ea77a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "Fascism was alive and well in Spain for a very long period after the war." | Dec 01 18:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "for every political assassination undertaken by the #Mussolini dictatorship, #Franco ’s regime killed 10,000 people" https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/29/what-is-happening-in-spain/ #italy #spain #es | Dec 01 18:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.counterpunch.org | What is Happening in Spain? - CounterPunch.org | Dec 01 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16550705#6a0c7270ed1f013752d30cc47a07853c | Dec 01 18:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "For one, it appears Rick is running a version of Debian with a very old Linux kernel (3.2.0) — one dating back to 2012. He badly needs to install some frickin’ updates." https://thenextweb.com/shareables/2019/11/19/rick-and-morty-computer-amd/ | Dec 01 18:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thenextweb.com | We know where Rick (from Rick and Morty) stands on Intel vs AMD debate | Dec 01 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | my guess is that he would rather use an outdated kernel than a version of debian with #systemd | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | also given the penchant among distros for dropping architecture lately, its possible that 2012 is the last (stable) version of the kernel that supported all of his hardware. maybe he has a floppy drive that needs to work for some reason. | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 12 days ago | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | “Also his partitions are real weird. It’s all Microsoft based partitions,” a Redditor says. “A Linux user would never do [this] unless they were insane since NTFS/Exfat drivers on Linux are not great.” | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | actually his partition data has every mark of a hybrid iso that was written to media using dd. this doesnt necessarily mean he is booting from a thumb drive, but it is the most likely cause. | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | which would mean the grub boot screen is wrong, not the partitions. its still possible he is using grub to chainload the iso. but the thing is, if he did that the first partition would probably be different. if you want it to be more plausible, change the boot screen to isolinux. | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 12 days ago | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | So why was this piece created, anyway, when it is so full of confusing details? | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16401266#c45f17b0e49201371e837a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I have worked on the Debian LTS project for 11.75 hours (of 11.75 hours planned) and on the Debian ELTS project for 0 hours (of 5 hours planned) as a paid contributor. I have given back those 5 ELTS hours to the pool." #debian runs the world. https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/104 | Dec 01 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> sunweavers.net | My Work on Debian LTS/ELTS (October 2019) | sunweaver's NET | Dec 01 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | Theoretically it should work. They both use *.deb packages, from the same line of source code. So, theoretically if you update a program and its dependencies, it should all still work - unless one of the dependencies is not backwards-compatible, which would be a bug. | Dec 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | But yeah, empirically speaking it does not work. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | the reasons it only works sometimes make plenty of sense really. theres a right way to do it, and a wrong way. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | a subset of the wrong way is (at least) the right way to do it the wrong way, which yields pretty reasonable results. the right way to do the wrong way is becoming more popular, for example, hyperbola does the wrong way the right way. i dont think its a stupid idea. debian is typically more anal-retentive about it, but im glad someone is. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | better to be too careful than too sloppy. but there is another option. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Well I wanted to start out with Ubuntu, because of the drivers, and then gradually migrate the system to Debian (up, not down in program version). But no, it did not work… ;-( | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | the best way to do that by far is to install both. but on different partitions. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm, I did not think of that! ;-) | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | …and then be conservative and very careful while youre tinkering, so you can reverse any silliness. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | ive mixed puppy linux (based on ubuntu tahr) and refracta (based on debian jessie.) if you do it right, it works-- with limitations. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | drivers are kernel specific, as far as i know. thats not a distro-related issue, its a kernel issue. it can be a distro issue too, but nothing can make it not a kernel issue. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Well, it was only an exercise. But not so fun. ;-) | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | if you attended one of my classes, id help you make it fun by guiding you through examples that actually worked. id also show you examples that didnt work-- the lesson being sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt, and the trick is to do it when it suits you, and avoid it when it doesnt. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 23 days ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Sounds good! | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16206265#4de875f0cdbb01373ed7047d7b62795e | Dec 01 18:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I left my very own creation for a month after media had claimed I'm rude and abusive" "ME TOO!!" | Dec 01 18:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_2bca829d96112826eed9.jpg | Dec 01 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Why does RMS look stoned? | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | its probably the hair and the beard, and jet lag across several countries. he looks better than i would after all that travel. | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Ted | Dec 01 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Ted - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | One stoned/jet lagged RMS = more than 20 members of Linux Foundation Board of Directors. | Dec 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | the picture is a fusion of two | Dec 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16638376#a9306140f54601371ea37a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "In this video, I recently revisited #vista10 and ask myself this question. Do You Control your computer or does Microsoft?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OIKHaOy9Zo | Dec 01 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Keep in mind that “control” is ownership. | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Dec 01 18:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Do You Control Your Computer or does Microsoft? - YouTube | Dec 01 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | Now what kind of fool pays for something that remains owned by someone else??? | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - a day ago | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | most people, since they let amazon control their entire library. | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Fool me once, shame on you | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Fool me twice, joined the club. | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Which is to say, the more we acquiesce to being taken, the less likely we will ever respond appropriately. Indeed, we become more likely to defend our actions. | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | People who let Microsoft manage their library lost all their books months ago | Dec 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Maybe PyPy will continue to support Python 2? | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | https://www.pypy.org/ | Dec 01 18:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.pypy.org | PyPy - Welcome to PyPy | Dec 01 18:31 | |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Maybe PyPy will continue to support Python 2? | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | thats the plan. pygame support is coming up. | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Yea! | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | my favourite project is written for python 2. it uses pygame as an optional component, but (when a gui environment is running at all) some features really are nicer with pygame available. even if it is, it is possible to switch off its use very easily. | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | the two holdups in switching from python 2 to pypy are these: | Dec 01 18:31 |
| schestowitz | more distros still use and include python 2, even by default. thats changing, but not all at once. | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | its at least better to switch to pypy after they have got pygame support fully working. im not watching this closely yet because of #1 but theyre working on it. | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | my project does not fully depend on python 2. its far better with python 2 in my opinion, it will be greater with pypy than other versions of python. python 2 strings have a flexibility that later versions dispute, but cannot disprove. i have nothing against the new strings-- only that they dont suit my purposes and they chose to not make them truly optional. like far too many things these days. | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I’m not involved with the python2/python3 controversy, but I very much appreciate that pypy is available as an alternative, and that it can even offer better perform | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16114091#13f93fa0c5630137098b7a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Josh and Kurt about the upcoming Python 2 EOL. What does it mean, why does it matter, and what you can you do?" http://www.opensourcesecuritypodcast.com/2019/09/episode-163-death-to-python-2.html | Dec 01 18:32 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.opensourcesecuritypodcast.com | Episode 163 - Death to Python 2 | Dec 01 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | \https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16123955#b6cd3b20c657013752630cc47a07853c | Dec 01 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "LQ is now under heavy abuse from one or two trolls attacking RMS to distract from BillG."-Anon LQ = #LinuxQuestions | Dec 01 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | there are loads of good people there as well. | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz | A reminder that the main focus of LQ is the technical fora. If threads in General continue to spiral out of control, it’s possible we’ll need to evaluate temporarily close the forum to new posts. | Dec 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | –jeremy | Dec 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | i hope jeremy realises that doing so would let them win. it would be better to ban the trolls than to close the forum. | Dec 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | This lets the trolls win | Dec 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16122421#0b310d50c6250137525b0cc47a07853c | Dec 01 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "My name is Julien Vehent. I run the #Firefox Operations Security team at #Mozilla , where I lead a team that secures the backend services and infrastructure of Firefox. I’m also the author of Securing [buzzword]." https://j.vehent.org/blog/index.php?post/2019/09/25/Beyond-The-Security-Team | Dec 01 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | “mozilla: our growing dearth of integrity is spackled over with buzzwords, and nobody gives a shit.” | Dec 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Dec 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> j.vehent.org | Beyond The Security Team - Quelques digressions sous GPL | Dec 01 18:34 | |
| schestowitz | “mozilla: the ubuntu of web browsers.” (thats not nice, chrome is sort of slightly more like than mozilla.) | Dec 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16013957#9dde8a20bbe30137098b7a163ef10931 | Dec 01 18:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." ~Richard Stallman | Dec 01 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Dec 01 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | Same here. The problem comes with the reciprocity. | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | ""the reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." george bernard shaw" | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | "I discounted reason long ago. ;->" | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | "i know the left/right brain thing is discounted to a degree, but i still think (metaphorically) of imagination/idealism and rationality/cynicism as two sides of our thinking. in the best scientists in history, they work together. in artists, they work together. in internet pedantry, they often call out of work that day." | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | "i know the left/right brain thing is discounted to a degree, but i still think (metaphorically) of imagination/idealism and rationality/cynicism as two sides of our thinking. in the best scientists in history, they work together. in artists, they work together. in internet pedantry, they often call out of work that day. we all do it, but for some it is a lifestyle to have no imagination and no understanding of seeking ideals. those are | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | deeply cynical people-- even more than myself.' | Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | "i know the left/right brain thing is discounted to a degree, but i still think (metaphorically) of imagination/idealism and rationality/cynicism as two sides of our thinking. in the best scientists in history, they work together. in artists, they work together. in internet pedantry, they often call out of work that day. we all do it, but for some it is a lifestyle to have no imagination and no understanding of seeking ideals. those are | Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | deeply cynical people-- even more than myself." | Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | "In fact the only way that progress is made is to say "this is not good enough". Not nearly good enough." | Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | ""The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." ― George Bernard Shaw | Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16125681#c6b2bc50c6760137f1e52a0000053625' | Dec 01 18:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Regardless of how the impeachment turns out, Trump’s predation can be constrained as long as his presidency can be ended with the 2020 election." https://robertreich.org/post/188055137000 | Dec 01 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | And the democrats are doing everything to loose! | Dec 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> robertreich.org | Robert Reich (The Real Lesson of Ukraine-gate: Trump Will Do...) | Dec 01 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure what you mean. Yes, they have been sabotaging Bernie Sanders’ efforts for quite some time. But Jo Middlename Biden seems to be losing steam also. | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | They could impeach the dirtbag on a bunch of other provable crimes, from using his position to boost sales to war crimes or blatant incompetence, but they chose to do it on this! Claiming Trump’s corruption with Ukrayne government for using Biden’s corruption with the previous Ukrayne government! This is absurd! Trump’s voter base will increase because of this! They’re effectively airing out Biden’s corruption! | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Host Smacks Down Democrat Defending Biden Corruption - Invidious | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I’m not going to criticize this impeachment effort. However they want to do it is OK with me, as long as it is legit. And as for Biden, no big loss. | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | https://invidio.us/watch?v=60dgwCbyv54 | Dec 01 18:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-invidio.us | Host Smacks Down Democrat Defending Biden Corruption - Invidious | Dec 01 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | someone told me the impeachment would also borrow from his other (many) crimes, so Ukraine was just the trigger | Dec 01 18:38 |
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