IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 04, 2021

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@ Anonymous of Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 14:07:00 BST

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You cite three decisions of the BA quoting and claiming that the BA should look at the description when analysing a claim. Those decisions are very old and have been superseded by much more recent ones.

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But even in those days, there were decisions which held that a clarity deficiency in a claim wording cannot be rectified by the fact that the description could possibly help the reader to understand the technical subject-matter which the claim was intended to define. See in this respect decision T 49/99, Reasons, point 12, referring to decision T 1129/97, OJ EPO 2001, 273, Reasons, points 2.1.2 and 2.1.3. In other words Art 69 is not

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to be used when assessing the content of the claim.

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In the catchword of T 56/04, it was held that an interpretation in terms of Art 69(1) cannot cure a lack of clarity, because compliance with the requirements of Art 84 cannot be achieved by applying Art 69(1) (cf. point 2.12 of the grounds for the decision).

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Other decisions of the same content: T 681/01, T 1279/04 and T 223/05

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The nub of all recent decisions is to specify that when a claimed feature is taken with its ordinary meaning there no need no need to invoke Art. 69(1). There are too many decisions going in this direction so that it is pointless to start quoting all of them.

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I will content myself to quote a very recent one T 30/17and the decisions cited therein: T 1018/02, T 0431/03, T 1404/05, T 1395/07 and T 0197/10.

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T 1450/05 held that Art 69 and its protocol were intended to assist a patent proprietor in contending for a broader interpretation of a claim than perhaps its wording warranted, not for cutting down the scope of a claim.

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How a claim is to be interpreted does not only have an effect when assessing the conformity of the claim with Art 84 but also with Art 123(2).

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https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Updates

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May 3, 2021. Reworded two items in the Table of Contents, to make navigation as clear as possible:

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Other Articles of Support -> External Articles of Support

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Related Articles -> External Related Articles

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May 3, 2021.

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1. Clarify the licensing terms in the footer to say that part of the contents in some pages may be exceptions to the default CC-BY-SA license.

May 04 00:36

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2. Added a license exception note in the following pages: Sylvia Paull's article; Renata Avila's article; Margarita Lacabe's article; Laird Wilcox's article.

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May 04 00:36

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> Hey Roy,

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Hi, nice to speak today in IRC.

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> Hope all's well.

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Yes, Rianne was invited for the jab, but we decided to wait longer and her mother agrees. My brother and dad likewise.

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> I had my jab on Friday morning just passed.

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> Was not well on Friday evening, lost 3 pounds in a day.

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I am not surprised. About 10 ago I published this:

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/astrazeneca-experiences/

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I don't know about the other vaccines, but this one I'd avoid. Minutes ago at work a colleague of mine told a similar story about her second AZ jab. She's only about 30 (Kim) and unable to work.

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Message of Concern About AstraZeneca (Which Now Renames Its Products to Dodge Bad Reputation)

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> My gut feel was uncertain whether to take it as i'm quite young and

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> working from home don't present much risk to other people, but the signs

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> are that we wouldn't be able to travel if we didn't, so felt I had no

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> option.

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Those are scare tactics. I've long said don't insult early adopters but don't feel compelled to become one.

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> A little concerning how this will pan out going forwards.

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> It was the Astra Zeneca jab.

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I was guessing that when you said "Etihad". See my blog post.

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> Have you had yours yet?

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I'm not against vaccination of course, but I'm in no hurry to get any of the current ones (there are many types, J&J sounded good at first but not anymore; my dad was glad he waited too, hearing about its side effects.... as that's the one he wanted to get).

May 04 01:15

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In the meantime we individually wash everything that gets in the house, food included, we wear masks etc. and don't socialise. I'm reading about and assessing the situation.

May 04 01:15

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BTW, Bill Gates is getting divorced. I have a lot to say about that, but it would distract from the real scandals.

May 04 01:15

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> On "American Axle" case, the SCOTUS has asked the Biden's avocate

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> général his position.

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> There is a need of a public pétition to wake Biden up, and put him on

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> our side for the next years...

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[00:08] <techrights-bot> Dennis Crouch, who is admittedly funded by the patent lobby (e.g. those working to undermine patent quality and cancel Section 101), is at it again https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/supreme-offers-eligibility.html #scotus #lobbying

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentlyo.com | Supreme Court offers Hope on Eligibility Case | Patently-O

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Re: Biden swpat

https://twitter.com/gypster2004/status/1389423135741685762

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@gypster2004: @Chesschick01 @PeterRQuinones This is worth a read. Rules for thee but not for me https://t.co/Mu5OQ9MFTL

May 04 05:57

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Finer Details About Rick Allen Jones, Bill Gates Employee Arrested for Trade of Child Exploitation Footage | Techrights

May 04 05:57

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https://twitter.com/BiskyRusiness/status/1389336250377818124

May 04 05:58

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"Rick Allen Jones was required to register as a sex offender. Through three detailed searches, UNITED STATES, WASH. STATE, KING COUNTY, he is not registered anywhere. There is also no Inmate DOC # as his 90-day sentence was Ankle Monitored House Arrest"

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Hi Roy, today I'm working from home, I'd not noticed the messages over most of the weekend as it been quite busy. RE: Jab yes had my firsst - Astra, Shell also had hers. "BTW, Bill Gates is getting divorced. " - I wonder if she will cite Windows Vista on the divorse papers as one of the reasons? ;)

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\hi, SiliconBard

May 04 11:34

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I tried to reach you yesterday

May 04 11:34

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I had enough time to record an ep

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instead, I:

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1) found 10 tracks for jingles

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as I noted in the techrights channel

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you may not have noticed

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so we're covered for future shows

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I did loooooads of work on video stuff, like editing stuff from the command line using ffmpeg and bash

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2) made it possible to compress multimedia files better

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so we're all set for some awesome stuff ahead

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regarding Gates, I did a video about it this morning

http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/media-still-distracts/

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May 04 11:42

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Media Frenzy Around Gates Divorce Helps Distract From Bill’s Crimes | Techrights

May 04 11:42

SiliconBard

fantastic...sorry for late reply....as I say Im home working so I have two desktops....I'll probably be homeworking for the rest of the week so depending on my workload, maybe be able to do something during day hours in the week.

May 04 12:10

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almost any time suits me

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sometimes even later or very early, as I work nighttime shifts still

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same as a decade back

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same job, too

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next episode will be vastly easier to do as I refreshed the whole workflow thing, edit, upload, save, etc.

May 04 12:13

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my notes to self:

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-Atari/MAME, games, microsoft monopoly, stadia, drm, rights of ownership...

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-RMS, open source, openwashing etc. I can lead on as it's something I've been watching closely

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-Another day we should discuss Microsoft shills and media operatives, with names like Mary Jo Foley and Mr. Wilcox, Andre Da Costa (shills galore, not just him)