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schestowitz  <li>Oct 05 06:06
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/10/04/jet-powered-star-wars-speeder-bike-built-from-repurposed-hoverboard/">Jet-powered Star Wars speeder bike built from repurposed hoverboard</a></h5>Oct 05 06:06
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Oct 05 06:06
schestowitz                                        <p>To save the project, Bruton turned to an Arduino UNO Rev3. It monitors the rotation angle and tilt angle of the handlebars using potentiometers, then uses servo motors to tilt the hoverboard controller boards accordingly. As far as the hoverboard electronics know, this is just the movement of the rider shifting their weight or moving their feet. This causes the bike to roll side-to-side or rotaOct 05 06:06
schestowitzte in place through input through the handlebars.</p>Oct 05 06:06
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Oct 05 06:06
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.arduino.cc | Jet-powered Star Wars speeder bike built from repurposed hoverboard | Arduino BlogOct 05 06:06
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schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/10/malicious-ads-in-bing-chat.html">Malicious Ads in Bing Chat</a></h5>Oct 05 06:36
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Oct 05 06:36
schestowitz                                        <p> Malicious ads are creeping into chatbots.</p>Oct 05 06:36
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Malicious Ads in Bing Chat - Schneier on SecurityOct 05 06:36
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schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/10/use-of-large-language-models-in-patent.html?showComment=1696496862714#c3516517409395694696Oct 05 16:45
schestowitz"A lot of the (over) excitement about LLMs seems to reveal something about the perception of the role of a patent attorney, which I think is sometimes shared by some in the profession. Rose is 100% right to say:<br />&quot;...LLM are similarly very good at summarising and reformatting text whilst retaining the pre-existing meaning of the text, e.g. from a bullet point list into paragraphs. However, both of these tasks are far removed frOct 05 16:45
schestowitzom the detailed technical verbal reasoning required for patent drafting and prosecution.&quot;<br />The challenge for us is to make people understand that the job of an attorney is not just to write in a certain style using certain choice words that you don't often find outside of patent specifications. Personally I think a lot of attorneys could do better to use some of those words much less.<br />I am sure Rose is also right to say &qOct 05 16:45
schestowitzuot;LLM are thus good at providing long-form novelty or inventive step arguments, provided that they are spoon-fed the argumentative points in the form of prompts.&quot; But how useful really is that as a tool? Do examiners really want &quot;long-form&quot; arguments when the same point could be made in a succinct list of bullet points?<br />Yes there are certain conventions we have to (or probably ought to) follow but the ability of LLOct 05 16:45
schestowitzMs is a reminder of the importance of style over substance. Patent attorneys (at the moment) have nothing to fear if substance matters.<br />I remember reading a few years ago some survey that CIPA had done about training. One of the top complaints from trainees was about supervisors &quot;correcting&quot; work for style. I am sure an LLM could be made to take in an already good draft specification and turn it into one that the trainee'Oct 05 16:45
schestowitzs supervisor would be happier with in terms of matching the style... but wouldn't a better (and cheaper!) solution be a more open mind on the part of the supervisor?"Oct 05 16:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Use of large language models in the patent industry: A risk to patent quality? - The IPKatOct 05 16:45
schestowitz"@Anonymous<br />Indeed the definition of the technical field in the application is key. And I mean by &quot;technical field&quot; a reference to a certain field of use, which can also equated to the &quot;art&quot; of the skilled person.<br />In the discussions about the &quot;closest prior art&quot; and the &quot;technical problem&quot;, be it subjective or objective, a missing but key element is generally the &quot;art&quot; of the sOct 05 16:45
schestowitzkilled person. This may sound surprising, since the skilled person is a most critical notion and it is explicit in the EPC (as in other patent laws), not just for inventive step but also for sufficiency and implicit for novelty. Whereas the PSA and the CPA are not in the EPC.<br />In my view, the presentation of the PSA as a three-step approach starting with the CPA is defective  because it skips the preliminary crucial step which is thOct 05 16:45
schestowitze identification of the « art » to which Art 56 refers.'Oct 05 16:45
schestowitz"Great article Rose as usual. You mentioned how LLMs could be used to replace the work typically done by trainees to keep costs down. I think this is actually a really big concern for our industry. Firms that can replace their trainee work with LLMs operated by skilled attorneys could be significantly more cost-efficient than those that don't. If trainee attorneys can be entirely replaced, how will firms justifying the cost of training Oct 05 16:46
schestowitzthe next generation of attorneys? <br />To some extent this will be avoided in firms with a strong focus on quality over quantity but the issue will become more prominent as the technology improves."Oct 05 16:46
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