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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4h3mxs1#replies | Oct 12 02:35 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | "" | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @dq Running models on these contents. It’s easy to connect the commenters, similar posts across different organizations. You can easily find this is coordinated effort. | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 day ago by Anonymous | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | no reactions | Reply | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @f4+1m4h3mxs1 | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +1 | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If nobody thinks this is a coordinated operation against ONE nationality, go see the AT&T layoffs board. Exact same post. | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Hilarious. | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 02:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4nq6sh1 | Oct 12 02:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4nq6sh1 ) | Oct 12 02:37 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 02:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What’s the Account Technology Strategist role really about? | Oct 12 02:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I’m currently interviewing for the Account Technology Strategist Strategist (ATS) role and trying to get a sense of what it’s really like. My background is AE for other large SaaS providers. Seems like this role is sales at its core. Anyone here an ATS and can give me the run down? Is it a good career move? | Oct 12 02:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 02:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49991215 | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 'Plagiarism' is an overreach. An LLM works a lot like the human brain does in terms of how it gathers its ideas for what to output, just like people do. When you write or create art, your ideas are a synthesis of everything you've experienced externally, directed and focused by the context of what it is you are looking to create/output. Nothing in your head is more original than what an LLM might produce. If you hadn't listened to | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | music composed by other composers for most of your life you wouldn't be able to generate a new composition and neither would an LLM. Are you plagiarizing when you write a new composition because you listened to famous composers and practically memorized their music over your training run (your life)? I'd say no. Plagiarism is more like the intentional act of copying work instead of doing your own synthesis. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Is a painter who was trained on Van Gogh or Salvador Dali plagiarising those artists when their own work shows influences of their work? Meh, I dont think so | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Is Greta Van Fleet plagiarising Led Zepplin? Some would say so out of distaste but it's not an actual fact. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | vincent-uden 4 days ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You actually have no idea if an LLM works "a lot like the human brain". No one does. It is still not clear if neural networks are capable of generalization to data outside of the training set in any capacity. Not just LLMs. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If they could, why would we need these monstrous models, even for simple problems? | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | spottedmarley 4 days ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I didn't say that it works like a human brain mechanistically, I said that in terms of how it can only output variations of the underlying training data, it does, indeed resemble (or 'works like', in common parlance) how a brain works. Your confusion stems from your literal take on the term works like. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The theory is sound. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | can3p 4 days ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | A lot of artists are doing mix and match and they're fine because it's framed as artistic interpretation. Can the author point to examples of LLMs reproducing some original work without being explicitly asked to do so? If not, what's the argument? | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I read the source code and like some patterns that I reuse in my later works. Is that plagiarism? If not, what's the difference with LLMs in this sense? | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | vincent-uden 4 days ago | prev [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I for one am still baffled at just how OpenAI/Anthropic and the likes have gotten away with the biggest copyright infringements (or perhaps IP-theft, I'm not sure what the correct term is) in history (the data collection for training) without any legal ramifications. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Even if it turns out to be perfectly legal I think a "retreat" to this position of LLM generation being Plagiarism (and therefore being uninteresting and morally bad) is quite a reasonable action. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It also separates LLMs for searching through documents quite nicely from content generation which since I would be hard pressed to consider a "fuzzy search" as a form of plagiarism. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | verdverm 4 days ago | parent [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If they buy the books, is it still theft? | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | vincent-uden 4 days ago | root | parent [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | For training purposes? I'd say no. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The legal or ethical status of generated output is still up for discussion. I myself do not think neural networks can generalize and thus I would have to say that it still would be copyright infringement since its just regurgitation of input data. Just because I bought a book doesn't mean I get to re-publish it. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | verdverm 4 days ago | root | parent [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they are not outputting or "regurgitating" like that, especially as the models get smaller, they just cannot encode that much information for reproduction, not so dissimilar from humans | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | maybe a couple of years back in the early experiments, but not today, if it were easy to get them to do it still, the activists would have by now | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | vincent-uden 4 days ago | root | parent [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes they are. Just because the models have been overfit on the entirety of the internet doesn't mean they aren't in principle re-generating parts of their input data for the overwhelming majority of their output. Sure, stochasticity pushes the output into weird states sometimes, these are the states where the output is plain useless nonsense. Hallucinations, if you will. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Our brains are entirely too small to recognize the patterns encoded from the gigantic training data set. But they are there nonetheless. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This is easily seen if you try get *any* neural network to generalize to *any* non-trivial task (in this case, XOR for example I consider to be trivial). There are no non-flickering, stable vision models that can recognize a human/dog/cat/whatever in all the lighting settings we can without false positives. The models are only getting better because they are getting bigger and are provided with more data. This is *not* generalizati | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | on. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | verdverm 3 days ago | root | parent [–] | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Yes they are. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If you change the definition to be more flexible, sure, you can claim such things. But I will disagree because under this definition humans are largely just regurgitating too. Consider how evolution has been a similar training regime for organic systems. | Oct 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply" | Oct 12 07:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Slop Is Plagiarism | Hacker News | Oct 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49983680 | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I will say I agree to the point of the post, people wanting status by taking photos with someone, or treating someone like a landmark in the background. | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | On the other hand, if you're reaching out to someone to make a connection and offer friendship, I think it is ok. A lot of people become famous, but isolated, and bringing them into YOUR circle with a picture is kind of nice." | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49982263 | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49923056. | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:27 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | amcclure 5 days ago | parent [–] | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's a different article, but thanks | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49963590 | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | From their guidelines: “Some topics are more prone to heated debates than others. These topics include, among others, politics, religion/faith and ideologies.” | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I would suggest moderation of the heated debates rather than trying to police the themes - even the word “ideology” used to disqualify an argument is deeply “ideological”." | Oct 12 07:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Taking Photos with Richard Stallman (RMS) | Hacker News | Oct 12 07:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49947596 | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Can we stop linking to this horrible and unreadable website? | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:28 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | amcclure 5 days ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Horrible and unreadable" more so describes The Register MS rather rather than Techrights. | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | reply | Oct 12 07:28 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | bitbasher 8 days ago | prev [–] | Oct 12 07:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Maybe I am in the minority, but I don’f find Lunduke’s videos any worse than theo/t3.gg, primeagen or dhh." | Oct 12 07:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Red Hat Is Phased Out of Existence This Month Onwards | Hacker News | Oct 12 07:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Red Hat being phased out of existence? | Hacker News | Oct 12 07:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Libera.chat Is an Agenda-Peddling Platform Run by Agenda-Peddling Individuals | Hacker News | Oct 12 07:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | In Case Anybody Still Believes Microsoft Lunduke Cares About GNU/Linux | Hacker News | Oct 12 07:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Bill Gates Warns AI Could Cause a Billion Deaths as He Seeks Meeting With Trump to Discuss Regulation | IBTimes UK" | Oct 12 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | x https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bill-gates-ai-billion-deaths-trump-oversight-1824917 | Oct 12 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | # bill sez | Oct 12 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Bill Gates Warns AI Could Cause a Billion Deaths as He Seeks Meeting With Trump to Discuss Regulation | IBTimes UK | Oct 12 08:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <li> | Oct 12 08:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <h5><a href="https://linuxgizmos.com/zotac-cm5-pico-fanless-industrial-pc-with-dual-hdmi-and-m-2-expansion/">ZOTAC CM5-PICO Fanless Industrial PC with Dual HDMI and M.2 Expansion</a></h5> | Oct 12 08:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <blockquote> | Oct 12 08:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <p>ZOTAC’s ZBOX PRO CM5-PICO is a compact industrial computer powered by the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5. The fanless system supports dual 4K displays, Gigabit Ethernet, M.2 expansion, and a 40-pin GPIO header, with an aluminum enclosure designed for continuous operation in embedded and edge computing applications.</p> | Oct 12 08:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | </blockquote> | Oct 12 08:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | </li> | Oct 12 08:34 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | "Long time (anti-AI) Gentoo developer, Michał Górny, says he feels that "it's really time for me to retire" because he "can't really claim that these tools vomit pure useless slop anymore". | Oct 12 16:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "In my private projects and in #Gentoo, I have a strict #NoAI policy. Any LLM-assisted contributions are closed immediately and considered tainted," said the Gentoo dev. | Oct 12 16:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "I'm starting to have doubts."" | Oct 12 16:28 |
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