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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mgrifftwit/status/1196380912931328001 | Dec 13 01:49 |
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mgrifftwit: @tuxmachines Github is a means for companies like MS to use free software they haven't written to serve it's custom… https://t.co/w7UHzLdJuQ | Dec 13 01:49 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mgrifftwit: @tuxmachines Github is a means for companies like MS to use free software they haven't written to serve it's custom… https://t.co/w7UHzLdJuQ | Dec 13 01:49 | |
schestowitz | "Github is a means for companies like MS to use free software they haven't written to serve it's customers without releasing GPL back to the community. Much like what Steve Jobs did with Darwin/OS X (Almost the entire operating system!) but that was BSD licensed so it is okay." | Dec 13 01:49 |
schestowitz | "This is all done via the "Cloud". A method of distributing software without need to give the source away." | Dec 13 01:50 |
schestowitz | This is all done via the "Cloud". A method of distributing software without need to give the source away. | Dec 13 01:50 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mgrifftwit/status/1196381069961920513 | Dec 13 01:50 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mgrifftwit: @tuxmachines This is all done via the "Cloud". A method of distributing software without need to give the source away. | Dec 13 01:50 | |
schestowitz | Re: FOR IMMEDIATE PUBLICATION | Dec 13 04:02 |
schestowitz | > Plans That Worked, Plans That Failed | Dec 13 04:02 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:02 |
schestowitz | > By figosdev | Dec 13 04:02 |
schestowitz | Please share: | Dec 13 04:02 |
schestowitz | Plans That Worked, Plans That Failed http://techrights.org/2019/12/12/plans-that-worked/ #gnu #fsf #rms #freesw #softwarefreedom | Dec 13 04:02 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Plans That Worked, Plans That Failed | Techrights | Dec 13 04:02 | |
schestowitz | >> I've just had one. Maybe it's an obvious insight to you, but I needed | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> to share with someone that I knew would get it. So, sorry for not | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> sticking to waiting for you to get back in touch. | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> Do you recall the scene of the lady with the red dress from the original | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> Matrix movie, in which Morpheus tells Neo within an imitation of the | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> Matrix: | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> you're inside, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> carpenters. The very minds of the people we're trying to save. But | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> until we do, these people are a part of that system and that makes | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> them our enemy. You have to understand most of these people are not | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> I've long identified that with: | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> - capitalism, in which workers are kept dependent on the system through | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> economic pressure and propaganda, and end up fighting for it, against | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> their own interests; and | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> - (fake) democracy, in which voters get mainly from propaganda a sense | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> of influence and power that make them defend the system that opresses | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> them, and in which they don't really have any actual say | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> You see these are all built upon an illusion of freedom, self | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> determination and individual choice. That the choices are limited and | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> distorted by "a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> prison for your mind." | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> Which brings us to systemd. Like the above, it exerts power without | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> seemingly breaking or even bending the "rules of the game", but rather | Dec 13 04:03 |
schestowitz | >> by directing their accumulated influence and economic power so as to | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> distort others' choices, making them choose a course that might seem | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> advantageous to themselves in the short term, but that is self-defeating | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> in the long term, and highly advantageous to those who had plenty of | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> power to begin with. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> Like capitalism and fake democracy, systemd-pushing corps figured out a | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> way to exert control while respecting the essential freedoms that make | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> for a level ground when all players have powers within the same order of | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> magnitude, but that have so often proven to enable significant | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> centralized powers to further advantages and disadvantages. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> Does that make as much sense to you as it does to me? | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >>> What is objectionable, I think, are not the features per se, | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> but the tight integration between them, the sort-of all-or-nothing | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> approach that are key to impose more and more of the growing package | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> onto adopters. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> well of course. nobody worries about features they arent having shoved into their lap. nobody says "aww shit-- now i have two options!" because that isnt a problem, is it? | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >>> Now, I understand (having been told, not having checked myself) that | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> SystemD is actually pretty modular, and various components can be | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> enabled or disabled independently. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >>> I'm wondering if this can be used as a wedge to counter it, by | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> progressively introducing separate, independent implementations of its | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> various modules | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | >> bem vindo a 2015. waitll you find out what things are like in a few years. youre gonna hate it. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | Re: What it tells me | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > Find all the facts possible. Ask self what it means. Think about | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > alternatives. Ask again. Try to think of something more positive. Ask to | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > be sure. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > If it really matters, repeat process over weeks and months. Whatever | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > comes out of it, write it down. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > That's how everything gotten right so far was gotten right. So the | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > latest is this. | Dec 13 04:04 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > The FSF is hiding something. They're willing to mess with us a little to | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > make us think things are okay. | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > Nobody is falling for it. In the future, the "supporter" will be a | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > "shill." Not yet, but gradually over time, that will be what they're | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > looking for. Because good people and innocent suckers aside, the people | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > making this happen are already shills-- not for the FSF, but at the FSF. | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > And they spell the future of the organisation. FSFE is a nice preview. | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | > Hooray. | Dec 13 04:05 |
schestowitz | "I think we should not. But along with this, we should also not kill either directly or indirectly." | Dec 13 04:10 |
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | ● NEWS ● #therevelator ☞ Should We Be Feeding #Birds and Other #Wil… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Dec 13 04:10 | |
schestowitz | Re: oliva is a shill | Dec 13 04:13 |
schestowitz | > anything else he sends me goes straight to you. put it in your spam | Dec 13 04:13 |
schestowitz | > folder if you dont want it. cheers. | Dec 13 04:13 |
schestowitz | > TM locked up mostly. HTTP stopped working, triggering an alarm. I | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > could almost connect via VNC and SSH. VNC would give a login prompt but | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > nothing further, I did not try further. SSH gave a login prompt but did | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > not go further than accepting the password, I see no record of that | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > attempt in the authentication logs though. ??? | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > I restarted the VM and the db seems ok and did not need rebuilding AFAIK. | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | I think we had a similar incident about a month ago. I recall having very high load on the server and after that only a reboot redeemed it. | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | It's good that the DB had no real 'damage'. | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | On the upside, TR uptime is now half a month. | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | I don't have experience with containers in case they're set up for us to migrate to on the HV. | Dec 13 04:28 |
schestowitz | > They are visible onl in TR. While waiting for TM it occurred to me to | Dec 13 05:15 |
schestowitz | > check TR. | Dec 13 05:15 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 05:15 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 05:15 |
schestowitz | > 191127 12:18:34 [ERROR] mysqld: Table './boycottn_wiki/logging' is | Dec 13 05:15 |
schestowitz | > marked as crashed and should be repaired | Dec 13 05:15 |
schestowitz | > 191127 12:18:34 [Warning] Checking table: './boycottn_wiki/logging' | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > 191127 12:18:34 [ERROR] mysqld: Table './boycottn_wiki/searchindex' is | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > marked as crashed and should be repaired | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > 191127 12:18:34 [Warning] Checking table: './boycottn_wiki/searchindex' | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > 191127 12:55:00 [ERROR] mysqld: Table | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > './boycottn_wrdp1/wp_search_phrases' is marked as crashed and should be | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > repaired | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > 191127 12:55:00 [Warning] Checking table: | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > './boycottn_wrdp1/wp_search_phrases' | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | IIRC, it takes about 40 minutes to check all the DBs on TR. The above tables don't seem critical. So I wonder, should we wait for the next crash/reboot or for more tables to have issues before scheduling a repair? | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | Logging and search indices aren't so crucial. | Dec 13 05:16 |
schestowitz | > I am repairing TR. It is a slow process. | Dec 13 05:24 |
schestowitz | I've just noticed. That's OK. I just hope it'll start httpd as soon as done, manually or automatically, to avoid unnecessary downtime. | Dec 13 05:24 |
schestowitz | > By the way, it looks like Reuters articles might be eligible for | Dec 13 05:25 |
schestowitz | > automated harvesting, if there were a way to get a feed for just the | Dec 13 05:25 |
schestowitz | > "interesting" ones. | Dec 13 05:25 |
schestowitz | Reuters is owned by a Canadian billionaire, so some of the pieces will be managed by his 'henchmen' editors. What terms can those be sliced by/criteria for narrowing down signal/noise? The entertainment news site you added has maybe 1 in 4 stories... worth adding to Techrights. TechDirt and TF have much better ratio. | Dec 13 05:25 |
schestowitz | I stopped watching Google News for anything other than EPO and Linux because of bad s/n ratio. | Dec 13 05:25 |
schestowitz | >> IIRC, it takes about 40 minutes to check all the DBs on TR. The above | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | >> tables don't seem critical. So I wonder, should we wait for the next | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | >> crash/reboot or for more tables to have issues before scheduling a repair? | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | > Oh. I saw the vast number and started the repair. | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | > It used to go quickly. What is the difference now? | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | The CPU load is low | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | 1.31, 1.39, 1.78 | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | Tasks: 196 total, 1 running, 195 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | pu0 : 9.4 us, 1.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 64.8 id, 24.8 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | pu1 : 0.0 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 99.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.3 st | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | pu2 : 8.3 us, 0.7 sy, 0.0 ni, 78.3 id, 12.7 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | pu3 : 0.3 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 99.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:26 |
schestowitz | pu4 : 0.0 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni,100.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:27 |
schestowitz | pu5 : 1.7 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 98.3 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:27 |
schestowitz | pu6 : 0.3 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 99.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:27 |
schestowitz | pu7 : 0.0 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni,100.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st | Dec 13 05:27 |
schestowitz | I don't know what changed. When did that go quickly? We hardly had any DB issues to repair until months ago. | Dec 13 05:27 |
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schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36652/ | Dec 13 08:17 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lxer.com | LXer: Sour grapes: Why some vendors are moving away from open source database software licensing | Dec 13 08:17 | |
schestowitz | " | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | This is exactly why some people just don't "get" the difference between open source and free software and understand why they are fundamentally at odds philosophically. Free software exists exactly to allow others to use the software as they see fit. | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | There is nothing wrong with deploying free software as a service to make money. It is explicitly part of the deal, as long as you share your changes. These DB companies sound like they fundamentally have no business model on which to survive. That's their problem, not the likes of Amazon et al | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | mbaehrlxer | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | Dec 08, 2019 | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | 2:35 PM EDTwhat is wrong is to make money by turning someone elses code into a service and then not allow every user access to the same code. the AGPL is supposed to fix that. i wonder if any of these databases considered that. | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | greetings, eMBee. | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | " | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36650/ | Dec 13 08:17 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lxer.com | LXer: Article: Microsoft Will Never Love Linux Because It Cannot | Dec 13 08:17 | |
schestowitz | " | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | Nov 25, 2019 | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | 9:08 AM EDTWhere is the article? | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | jdixon | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | Nov 25, 2019 | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | 9:14 AM EDTLooks like it's at http://techrights.org/2019/11/24/cannot-love-linux/ | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | bob | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | Nov 25, 2019 | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | 11:18 AM EDTfixed | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | " | Dec 13 08:17 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft Will Never Love Linux Because It Cannot | Techrights | Dec 13 08:17 | |
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