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schestowitz> Hi Roy:Apr 14 00:00
schestowitz>Apr 14 00:00
schestowitz> Judging from the pie chart here:Apr 14 00:00
schestowitz> https://thecantonsentinel.com/technology/20269/computer-aided-engineering-software-industry-research-report-growth-trends-and-competitive-analysis-2020-2025/Apr 14 00:01
schestowitz>Apr 14 00:01
schestowitz> GNU Octave appears to have a larger market share that Matlab. Have youApr 14 00:01
schestowitz> got any real figures on the comparative market shares in percentages?Apr 14 00:01
schestowitzIn universities, based on what I saw, MATLAB is used a lot and licences tend to cover whole faculties. That does not imply actual usage however. The business-friendly reports tend to measure "market" based on revenue alone.Apr 14 00:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thecantonsentinel.com | Computer-Aided Engineering Software Industry Research Report, Growth Trends and Competitive Analysis 2020-2025 - The Canton Independent SentinelApr 14 00:01
schestowitz[22:34] <schestowitz> I'll put the password on the hvApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:34] <> okApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:35] <schestowitz> localhost:~$ pwdApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:35] <schestowitz> /home/schestowitzApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:35] <schestowitz> localhost:~$ nano pwApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:35] <schestowitz> it's in there, I'll delete the file afterwards, don't want freenode to have all the access credsApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:38] <> kkApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:38] <> good idea tbhApr 14 00:05
schestowitz[22:38] <> freenode at this point is quite sketchyApr 14 00:05
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schestowitz""Apr 14 00:50
schestowitzIs that someone's opinion or is that official policy?Apr 14 00:50
schestowitzand is it law?Apr 14 00:50
schestowitz"Apr 14 00:51
schestowitznot my opinion, I don't even like those messengersApr 14 00:51
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schestowitz"Apr 14 00:51
schestowitzPeople with or without qualification can be part of those mafia.Apr 14 00:51
schestowitzQualification is usually needed to manage efficiency, but not always.Apr 14 00:51
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schestowitz"that's jitsi.org"Apr 14 00:51
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schestowitz"as it should be"Apr 14 00:52
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schestowitz"now we are the expendable pawns of capitalism... does we will see the elephant in the room?"Apr 14 00:52
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schestowitz"Probably not but happy to add to a torrent to help distribute"Apr 14 00:52
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schestowitz"@schestowitz's machine had over 500 days uptime, haha whoopsie"Apr 14 00:52
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schestowitz""" ...relies on github-only software :(|Apr 14 00:53
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schestowitz> I still have a local copy of /var/lib/mysql/ here.  How long should IApr 14 04:45
schestowitz> keep it around?  It's probably not needed in reserve any more.Apr 14 04:45
schestowitzIt is not necessary anymore, you can hard-purge it. It was an 'insurance policy' for peace of mind anyway. Compressed latest mysql dumps would be better use of disk space. I saw no issues with the CMSes so far...Apr 14 04:45
schestowitzLots of chatting in IRC right now... some stunning facts about OIN and WSL. But I lack supporting docs and/or links.Apr 14 04:45
schestowitz>>>> I don't know what this thing is, but you don't need to explain what itApr 14 04:55
schestowitz>>>> is, either.Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz>>>>Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz>>> Desert, as in the earlier category of recipes.Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz>> Looks... unusual to me.Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz>>Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz>>Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz> Blame the influence of Eastern Orthodox food traditions for that form.Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz>Apr 14 04:55
schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paskha#PreparationApr 14 04:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Paskha - WikipediaApr 14 04:55
schestowitz>>>> Lots of chatting in IRC right now... some stunning facts about OIN andApr 14 05:08
schestowitz>>>> WSL. But I lack supporting docs and/or links.Apr 14 05:08
schestowitz>>> Supporting documentation, or authoritative on-the-record sources, wouldApr 14 05:08
schestowitz>>> be essential.Apr 14 05:08
schestowitz>> Not so likely with Microsoft. I was probably already told some stuff IApr 14 05:08
schestowitz>> wasn't supposed to.Apr 14 05:08
schestowitz> Ok.  Then please remember to double check before posting, it isApr 14 05:08
schestowitz> important to treat sources excellently.  However, maybe there is otherApr 14 05:08
schestowitz> useful information available on-the-record.Apr 14 05:08
schestowitz>> I can chase the Microsoft people for answers (numbers) again, but it'sApr 14 05:12
schestowitz>> unlikely they'll reply and they might even use that to see I 'harass' them.Apr 14 05:12
schestowitz>>Apr 14 05:12
schestowitz>> I can ask them loaded questions. Worth it?Apr 14 05:12
schestowitz> They can be worded so that the silence is a confirmation, if that's whatApr 14 05:12
schestowitz> you mean.  It may be helpful to be able to add that they declined anApr 14 05:12
schestowitz> opportunity for comment.  But don't let it delay the article too long,Apr 14 05:12
schestowitz> M$ thrives on delay.  It always has.Apr 14 05:12
schestowitzThis is already coved to some degree inApr 14 05:12
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/12/05/wsl-secrets/Apr 14 05:12
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/12/08/popaganda/Apr 14 05:12
schestowitzMore silence from them would add nothing new --- nothing that wasn't said already.Apr 14 05:12
schestowitzBTW, I'll forward you something that's more like "OK, no  new info/surprise here..."Apr 14 05:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft Staff Repeatedly Refuses to Tell How Many People Use WSL, Defends Patent Extortion and Blackmail of Linux Instead | TechrightsApr 14 05:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | You Know WSL is Bad for GNU/Linux Because Anti-Linux People, Microsoft and Its Propagandists, Want People to Use That | TechrightsApr 14 05:13
schestowitz https://www.propublica.org/article/at-least-19-children-at-a-chicago-shelter-for-immigrant-detainees-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19Apr 14 05:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.propublica.org | At Least 19 Children at a Chicago Shelter for Immigrant… — ProPublicaApr 14 05:51
schestowitzhttps://www.propublica.org/article/walmart-hid-that-it-was-under-criminal-investigation-for-its-opioid-sales-lawyers-sayApr 14 05:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.propublica.org | Walmart Hid That It Was Under Criminal Investigation for… — ProPublicaApr 14 05:53
schestowitzhttps://www.propublica.org/article/what-is-the-new-deadline-to-file-taxes-a-coronavirus-updateApr 14 09:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.propublica.org | What Is the New Deadline to File Taxes? A Coronavirus… — ProPublicaApr 14 09:39
schestowitzhttps://www.propublica.org/article/climate-change-wont-stop-for-the-coronavirus-pandemicApr 14 09:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.propublica.org | Climate Change Won’t Stop for the Coronavirus Pandemic — ProPublicaApr 14 09:40
schestowitz>> I've meanwhile used Google again... when searx instances were notApr 14 10:11
schestowitz>> accessible.Apr 14 10:11
schestowitz> As far as results, Google might be least bad.  However, as much as theApr 14 10:11
schestowitz> others go, too, it is a privacy mess.  YaCY was an interesting idea butApr 14 10:11
schestowitz> one of the barriers was is choice of java.Apr 14 10:11
schestowitz>Apr 14 10:11
schestowitz> https://yacy.net/faq/Apr 14 10:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-yacy.net | FAQ - YaCyApr 14 10:11
schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaCyApr 14 10:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | YaCy - WikipediaApr 14 10:11
schestowitzI never used the latter.Apr 14 10:11
schestowitzAt the moment we try to fix something in TM.Apr 14 10:11
schestowitzThere might be some downtimes, pleade ignore.Apr 14 10:11
schestowitzI will send chatlogs with info.Apr 14 10:11
schestowitz> in may of 2016, `libffi` lead dev anthony green moved libffi to github. https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libffi-discuss/2016/002261.html more than two years later, microsoft announced that it would purchase github.Apr 14 17:39
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:40
schestowitz> if you list all the packages that each package depends on in tinycore, libffi has more packages that depend on it than any other package.Apr 14 17:40
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sourceware.org | libffi maintenanceApr 14 17:40
schestowitz> number-of-packages-needing-it | name-of-packageApr 14 17:40
schestowitzOnly earlier today I heard ba rant about this package.Apr 14 17:40
schestowitznumber-of-packages-needing-it | name-of-packageApr 14 17:40
schestowitz739 | libffi.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz712 | glib2.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz689 | liblzma.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz665 | ncursesw.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz639 | libXdmcp.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz639 | libXau.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz637 | libxcb.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz635 | libX11.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz605 | bzip2-lib.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz585 | libXext.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz571 | openssl-1.1.1.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz569 | libpng.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz569 | expat2.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz517 | udev-lib.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz514 | freetype.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz500 | libjpeg-turbo.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz497 | readline.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz493 | libXfixes.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz488 | libXrender.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz477 | fontconfig.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz466 | libXdamage.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz464 | libXxf86vm.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz463 | sqlite3.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz444 | libpciaccess.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz442 | libdrm.tczApr 14 17:40
schestowitz441 | libxshmfence.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz438 | libGL.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz431 | libXrandr.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz431 | libXft.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz430 | libxml2.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz423 | libXinerama.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz422 | libXcursor.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz413 | libXcomposite.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz408 | pixman.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz407 | libEGL.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz404 | libtiff.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz402 | gdbm.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz394 | libGLESv2.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz368 | cairo.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz344 | libXi.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz343 | libSM.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz343 | libICE.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz340 | graphite2.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz338 | harfbuzz.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz336 | gdk-pixbuf2.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz335 | libXtst.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz335 | fribidi.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz331 | pango.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz320 | libXss.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz317 | python3.6.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz316 | libXt.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz313 | libXmu.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz310 | atk.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitz307 | libXpm.tczApr 14 17:41
schestowitzRe: NFtables vs IPtablesApr 14 17:43
schestowitz> Back in January I spent some time looking at NFtables which is theApr 14 17:43
schestowitz> replacement for IPtables.  If the new systems have the option to useApr 14 17:43
schestowitz> NFtables over IPtables then I would recommend using NFtables.  TheApr 14 17:43
schestowitz> syntax is /very/ different but supposedly makes up for it throughApr 14 17:43
schestowitz> simpler, more efficient parts in the kernel.Apr 14 17:43
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:44
schestowitz> Sample attached.Apr 14 17:44
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:44
schestowitz> With the right options, the sets of large ranges of IP addresses orApr 14 17:44
schestowitz> networks calculate out the redundancies and overlaps.Apr 14 17:44
schestowitzI've just looked at the file but it looks like a generic table.Apr 14 17:44
schestowitzThe plan is to eventually rip apart apache ... perhaps (see below)Apr 14 17:44
schestowitz> Hey Roy,Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> Our team is working on an article this week that I think would be a goodApr 14 17:45
schestowitz> fit for Techrights.Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> The premise: *How Cell Phone Companies are Profiting from Selling YourApr 14 17:45
schestowitz> Personal Data*.Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> Scary, right?Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> Our writers are really digging into the topic and putting together aApr 14 17:45
schestowitz> primer for consumers:Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>   * What data is being sold (location, number, etc.)Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>   * Who it's being sold to (credit companies, law enforcement, etc.)Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>   * How much companies make from selling the data to third-partiesApr 14 17:45
schestowitz>   * What's being done at the government level to address these issuesApr 14 17:45
schestowitz>   * How, as a consumer, you can protect yourself or fight backApr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> Do you think your readers would find this topic interesting?Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> I'd be happy to send along a draft to review as soon as it's finished.Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> For context, I work with the team at FairShake. We're a consumerApr 14 17:45
schestowitz> advocacy platform and we research and write content focused on consumerApr 14 17:45
schestowitz> rights, data privacy, and legal protections.Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz> Be well and be safe,Apr 14 17:45
schestowitz>Apr 14 17:45
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schestowitz>>> Back in January I spent some time looking at NFtables which is theApr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> replacement for IPtables.  If the new systems have the option to useApr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> NFtables over IPtables then I would recommend using NFtables.  TheApr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> syntax is /very/ different but supposedly makes up for it throughApr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> simpler, more efficient parts in the kernel.Apr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>>Apr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> Sample attached.Apr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>>Apr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> With the right options, the sets of large ranges of IP addresses orApr 14 18:31
schestowitz>>> networks calculate out the redundancies and overlaps.Apr 14 18:31
schestowitz>> I've just looked at the file but it looks like a generic table.Apr 14 18:32
schestowitz> Yes, it is.  It illustrates the syntax.Apr 14 18:32
schestowitz>Apr 14 18:32
schestowitz>> The plan is to eventually rip apart apache ... perhaps (see below)Apr 14 18:32
schestowitz> SElinux is interesting, in principle, but in application it is tooApr 14 18:32
schestowitz> complex to bother with.  Apparmor is much easier but lacks necessaryApr 14 18:32
schestowitz> granularity in regards to networking.Apr 14 18:32
schestowitz>Apr 14 18:32
schestowitz> It looks like there are some fine points to work out still before the TMApr 14 18:32
schestowitz> backup scripts can be updated.Apr 14 18:32
schestowitzYes, for now remote and local backup scripts can stay the same. One thing that happened today was, mysql crashed.Apr 14 18:32
schestowitzOdd.Apr 14 18:32
schestowitzIt can be restarted (the process) if that happens:Apr 14 18:32
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schestowitz> I'll need instructions on how or where to log in then, once things areApr 14 18:57
schestowitz> more settled.  Is LXC appropriate for production in general?Apr 14 18:57
schestowitzlxc-attach -n mysql-shared from the hvApr 14 18:57
schestowitzthen, service <service> restartApr 14 18:57
schestowitzthere's only mariadb reallyApr 14 18:57
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