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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz>  > The bad ones are most "memorable".Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Ain't that the truth! My highlight last month was someone saying they Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> knew where I lived, and wanted to "teach me a lesson". But I got five Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> other comments saying I'd encouraged them to try NetBSD. No prizes for Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> the one that affected my day the most.Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz>  > Sometimes it is possible not to even read itApr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Yup, that's what I have to work on for sure. My "blocked sender" filter Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> in Thunderbird has been getting a real workout (reminds me that I need Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> to go back to mutt or Alpine at some point too).Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Thanks again for the civil words and constructive feedback, it's meant a Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> lot.Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Thanks,Apr 18 00:31
schestowitzThe quiet/silent readers matter.Apr 18 00:31
schestowitz> Good exchange with him.Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Yes, at any given moment there are people having a bad day and someApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> outright pricks that with a wide enough audience, a great many inApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> absolute numbers will turn up even if they are only a small percent.Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> However of that small percentage there may be agent provacateurs eggingApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> things on or even throwing verbal stones of sorts.  Those provacateursApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> are certainly going to take issue with a fine FOSS oriented blog likeApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> his and have for decades pushed a wedge between people espousing theApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> non-reciprocal licensing approach and the copyleft folks, if possible.Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> I wrote him once some months ago about a quirk in his feedsApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> construction, short and polite (I hope), but never heard back.  However,Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> as you know, from what I've experienced for decades in regards toApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> technology and workplace politics there are no legitimate circumstancesApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> under which Windows (or any other m$ products) may be tolerated, ever,Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> and that lesson keeps getting strengthened as time passes.Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Back to the licensing dispute, what has been protecting theApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> non-reciprocally licensed projects, has been the intense organizationApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> and long term planning of the FreeBSD and OpenBSD projects.  That isApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> mainly FreeBSD though.  OpenBSD still runs on the BDFL model like LinuxApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> used to, so let's set that one aside.  In comparison to FreeBSD, LinuxApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> has not had even remotely the same level of planning or organization andApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> a a code base has grown write-only organically.  As a project,Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> eventually Linus let himself be distracted by stuff which is not codeApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> and let that non-code stuff enter the project resulting in hisApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> displacement and a shift away from being code-focused.  Strong copyleftApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> has helped Linux grow more than non-reciprocal licensing has helpedApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> FreeBSD grow.  However, a very well organized and rather well vetted andApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> very code-focused leadership has protected FreeBSD so much more than theApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Linux leadership has protected their kernel that it almost makes up theApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> difference.Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz>Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> PS. One of Lunduke's last coherent posts was about the write-only natureApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> of Linux as a kernel.Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> Apr 18 00:36
schestowitz> PPS.  You and I have discussed Peren's new beginning at post-OSSApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> efforts.  Non-reciprocally licensed projects owe it to themselves to atApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> least keep an eye on that effort and, when ready, take a deep look atApr 18 00:36
schestowitz> the result.Apr 18 00:36
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schestowitz                                <li>Apr 18 08:00
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/16/torvalds_complicates_his_indents/">Torvalds complicates his use of indentation in Linux Kconfig</a></h5>Apr 18 08:00
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 18 08:00
schestowitz                                        <p>However, the change that brought the most amusement to the face of the Reg FOSS desk is a configuration file change from Linus himself, titled "Kconfig: add some hidden tabs on purpose." He switched a space indent to a tab indent to catch out poor-quality parsers. </p>Apr 18 08:00
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 18 08:00
schestowitz                                </li>Apr 18 08:00
schestowitz                                Apr 18 08:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theregister.com | Torvalds complicates his use of indentation in Linux Kconfig • The RegisterApr 18 08:00
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schestowitz<li>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://linuxiac.com/gentoo-council-implements-ban-on-ai-assisted-contributions/">Gentoo Council Implements Ban on AI-Assisted Contributions</a></h5>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                        <p>Several critical concerns underpin the Gentoo Council’s decision. Foremost among them are copyright issues. With copyright laws still catching up to the fast-paced evolution of AI, using AI-generated content could lead to legal entanglements and undermine the rigorous copyright standards that open-source projects like Gentoo strive to maintain. </p>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                        <p> Additionally, there are apprehensions about the quality of AI-generated content. While AI can produce work that appears convincingly accurate, it often lacks the nuanced understanding necessary for high-stakes or technically demanding projects. </p>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                        <p> For Gentoo, this risk is unacceptable, as it could dilute the quality of their projects and impose an undue burden on developers and users who would need to verify the accuracy of such contributions. </p>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 18 08:37
schestowitz                                </li>Apr 18 08:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-linuxiac.com | Gentoo Council Implements Ban on AI-Assisted ContributionsApr 18 08:37
schestowitzx https://variety.com/2024/shopping/news/best-microsoft-store-sale-deals-online-1235972619/Apr 18 09:31
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-variety.com | Microsoft Store Spring Sale Event: Best Laptops, Tatblets, Xbox DealsApr 18 09:31
schestowitz"Microsoft Copilot AI Resumes Auto-Launch Testing in Windows 11 Startup"Apr 18 09:33
schestowitzx https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/microsoft-copilot-ai-resumes-auto-launch-testing-windows-11-startup-1724320Apr 18 09:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Microsoft Copilot AI Resumes Auto-Launch Testing in Windows 11 Startup | IBTimes UKApr 18 09:33
schestowitz"Microsoft supports urllib3 with FOSS Fund 2024"Apr 18 09:37
schestowitzx https://sethmlarson.dev/thanks-to-microsoft-for-supporting-urllib3?date=2024-04-17Apr 18 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sethmlarson.dev | Microsoft supports urllib3 with FOSS Fund 2024Apr 18 09:37
schestowitz"What a TikTok Ban Would Mean for the U.S. Defense of an Open Internet"Apr 18 09:37
schestowitzx https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/17/technology/tiktok-ban-internet-freedom.htmlApr 18 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nytimes.com | What a TikTok Ban Would Mean for the U.S. Defense of an Open Internet - The New York TimesApr 18 09:37
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schestowitz> Yo - It's getting close to that time.  What do you want to do withApr 18 20:57
schestowitz> this?Apr 18 20:57
schestowitz>Apr 18 20:57
schestowitz> You probably want to announce it a month ahead of time.Apr 18 20:57
schestowitz>Apr 18 20:57
schestowitz> I'm also going to want a list of questions if you're going to do anApr 18 20:57
schestowitz> audio interview so I can be prepared to answer.Apr 18 20:57
schestowitz>Apr 18 20:57
schestowitz> No sandbagging, but I'm not expecting you to hold back, either.Apr 18 20:57
schestowitzHi,Apr 18 20:57
schestowitzI did not forget this. I wrote down notes about it last week.Apr 18 20:57
schestowitzBTW, seems the trolls managed to get us to fight one another, diverting away attention  from what mattered.Apr 18 20:57
schestowitzCan we do a multi-part interview about Freenode in text?Apr 18 20:57
schestowitzCan you help with an outline of theme for each part?Apr 18 20:57
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