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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TallElfin: @schestowitz Dislike VNC. Hate RDP.Nov 23 05:27
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@papel61: @schestowitz @LlnuxBot KDE is slowwwwlyNov 23 05:27
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@nourishedcloud: @schestowitz @jrobertson but x forwarding is so slow!Nov 23 05:27
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@smarsilia: @schestowitz @wikileaks Yes.Nov 23 05:28
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jurasick: @schestowitz Usually a failed experiment.Nov 23 05:28
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz the only users of Fedora i know are RHEL or Centos sysadmins.Nov 23 05:28
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz no audio sa far :(Nov 23 05:28
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Leandro23870790: @schestowitz GrazieNov 23 05:29
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GabeofFields: @schestowitz It’s certainly the reason his resignation was necessaryNov 23 05:29
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DMCANews: Yes https://t.co/5k3nHViYybNov 23 05:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #linuxfoundation is a #proprietarysoftware #marketing operation. #openwashing and misuse of the #linux brand are t… https://t.co/LjejnrZEcxNov 23 05:29
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@_________it: @schestowitz @wikileaks Well?, ...soon as someone builds a squid extractir, countin' votes 'll be a long lost memor… https://t.co/NVvGhSKMBaNov 23 05:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@_________it: @schestowitz @wikileaks Well?, ...soon as someone builds a squid extractir, countin' votes 'll be a long lost memor… https://t.co/NVvGhSKMBaNov 23 05:31
acer-box__"Well?, ...soon as someone builds a squid extractir, countin' votes 'll be a long lost memory, ..., and judgin' be all but forgot in the anals of histry."Nov 23 05:31
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Been using Kdenlive happily this yearNov 23 05:31
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Can't help thinking that if it was Hillary's presidency Brits would hand him over in a minute.Nov 23 05:31
schestowitz> I think they're faking it.Nov 23 05:38
schestowitz>Nov 23 05:38
schestowitz> They're up against an imaginary foe, like in American wrestling, and they're playing dead.Nov 23 05:38
schestowitz>Nov 23 05:38
schestowitz> They have the money they need, and from now on they'll take money from, and listen to, the sorts of people that tell them what to say and what sorts of freedom to not worry about. That has practically already happened. This doesn't depend on everybody being in on it-- they've got a story that seems to appeal to the people who actually care. It isn't believable to members, and they don't care about that.Nov 23 05:38
schestowitzCheck out what J Gay told me last night around 9PM:Nov 23 05:38
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-221119.htmlNov 23 05:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, November 22, 2019Nov 23 05:38
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schestowitz> Check out what J Gay told me last night around 9PM:Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz>Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz> That's the same tactic/premise Debian uses. While voting whether to allow further contributions towards init freedom, they insist nobody was "stepping up" and using that freedom anyway.Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz>Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz> But if nobody was using it, there is nothing to vote on.Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz>Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz> Even if what he's saying is true, it might make a liar of several people, including Kuhn.Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz>Nov 23 06:17
schestowitz> I think it makes a liar of someone else, fun to try to guess who at this point. But whatever, bullshit is king now.Nov 23 06:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16578357#ffb86e60efd2013752b10cc47a07853cNov 23 06:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FSF #GNU #emacs event... no# rms ? Well, did he self-banish or is he made to feel uninvited? He's right there in Boston... http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-fsfs-emacsconf-2019-satellite-was-an-m-x-successNov 23 06:20
schestowitz"Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzhe only wrote the fucking thing.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzim getting tired of these shenanigans-- self-censorship, mailing list censorship of other people, censorship of members! lets sue them, i think theyve been “bought” with donation money.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzas an alternative, lets have this nonsense stop. i wrote rms days ago (based on my open letter) if members actually have any say in what the fsf does at all. i left the question wide open for him to reply that members have a say by any stretch of the imagination. uncharacteristically ive gotten no reply. rms is still quieter than he used to be. this is appalling.Nov 23 06:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.fsf.org | The FSF's EmacsConf 2019 satellite was an M-x success! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareNov 23 06:20
schestowitz Whonix Anonymous Operating SystemNov 23 06:20
schestowitzWhonix Anonymous Operating System - about 2 hours agoNov 23 06:20
schestowitzIf he still controlling his email anyway which the only way to communicate with him. Plus media in USA since ages left him and dont talk to him, one need to go his place and do an interview and share it to the public.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comNov 23 06:20
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 2 hours agoNov 23 06:20
schestowitzPlus media in USA since ages left himNov 23 06:20
schestowitzoh if only, they spent a lot of time attacking him recently.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzIf he still controlling his email anyway which the only way to communicate with him.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzemail and his website are the only contact we have with the fsf-- i mean with stallman.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzwhatever, at least stallman exists.Nov 23 06:20
schestowitz"Nov 23 06:20
schestowitzIt is true that he has been less responsive latelyNov 23 06:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16572432#eb2520e0ef9e01377d7a005056264835Nov 23 06:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Trump hosted #Zuckerberg for undisclosed dinner at the #WhiteHouse in October https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerberg-undisclosed-dinner-white-house-october-n1087986 one can imagine what they agreed on...Nov 23 06:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_78e0dfb7ed48814e138e.jpgNov 23 06:22
schestowitz"Nov 23 06:22
schestowitzAnd yet, they both end up helping trump.Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz Theodotos AndreouNov 23 06:22
schestowitzTheodotos Andreou - about 19 hours agoNov 23 06:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.nbcnews.com | Trump hosted Zuckerberg for undisclosed dinner at the White House in OctoberNov 23 06:22
schestowitzIf voting for the ‘lesser evil’ is the only option then there is no point in voting and Trump is what you deserve.Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz Jürgen ChristoffelNov 23 06:22
schestowitzJürgen Christoffel - about 19 hours agoNov 23 06:22
schestowitz@Theodotos Andreou most of the time we vote for the lesser evil. Not voting clears the path for arbitrary evil, wich in (at least) 50% of the cases would be worse than the lesser evil.Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz Theodotos AndreouNov 23 06:23
schestowitzTheodotos Andreou - about 19 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzSo should whistle-blowers stop whistling in case they accidentally harm the ‘lesser evil’?Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz Jürgen ChristoffelNov 23 06:23
schestowitzJürgen Christoffel - about 19 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzWhy should they? If a whistleblower exposes (with facts) a lesser evil to be a not so lesser evil, that’s what whistleblowers are supposed to do, aren’t they?Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz Theodotos AndreouNov 23 06:23
schestowitzTheodotos Andreou - about 18 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzExactly! So we shouldn’t criticize whistle-blowers because they expose scandals. If politicians don’t want to be exposed they should not engage in activities that can harm them. In this respect it was Hillary’s fault that lost the election and Assange should not be criticized for this.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz **joeNov 23 06:23
schestowitz**joe - about 10 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzTheodotus, do you really believe that those babies in cages got what they deserve? You must rally hate them. Is is because they are not US citizens or is it because they want to be US citizens?Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzWhen people start dying en-mass in trump’s concentration camps, will you still think they got what they deserve?Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzIf trump drops a nuke on your head, will the US have gotten what it deserves?Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzEnjoy your greater evil, and don’t complain. He is what you want.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz Theodotos AndreouNov 23 06:23
schestowitzTheodotos Andreou - about 10 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzOf course not! But I’ve seen Hillary throwing a party when Gaddafi died. Yes he was a dictator but he died in the most brutal way possible. How is Hillary better? All Assagne did is show us what Hillary is.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzI sincerely hope to get your shit together this time and vote for someone that understands the responsibility of being a POTU.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzSorry if I upsetted you.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz Bernd PaysanNov 23 06:23
schestowitzBernd Paysan - about 10 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzThere’s clearly a point where the evil is too big to choose between two to get the lesser one. Wikileaks exposed that Clinton was clearly unelectable, and Trumps inconsistent rambling proved that Trump was clearly not even fit for the office, and certainly unelectable, either (no leaks necessary).Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzIf that is the case, stop the process, throw the unelectables out, and restart. You can’t stop your train wreck process? Bad for you.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzActually, the whole show proved that the US people are not fit to elect anybody. They should be put under tutelage.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz **joeNov 23 06:23
schestowitz**joe - about 9 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzIt upsets me to think of you getting a nuke dropped on your head. I’m a kind of sensitive little snowflake when it comes to the oppression and murder of others than myself. Perhaps I should learn from trump how to only care about myself.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzHow is Hillary better than this KKK president? I really have to wonder about people who could ask that.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzWell for one thing, she certainly “understands the responsibility of being a POTU[S]”. better than this monster does. She was a diplomat, who believed in diplomacy unlike this monster who has left the diplomatic corps unstaffed. She didn’t go around talking about “fire and fury like the world has ever seen”, or wiping entire countries "off the map. She would not have appointed those neoliberal, corporate, Federalist Society, ALECNov 23 06:23
schestowitzjudges to complete the neoliberal corporate coup that the Republicans started under Ronald Reagan and are now completing. The Citizens United case was against her and they won 6-4. The next rightist corporate victory in SCOTUS may be 7-2 or 8-1, if the greater evil party continues it’s assault on the USA and the world.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzShe did not “throw a party” over Gadaffi’s death, but she did make that horrible statement “we came we saw he died” and then chuckled about it. I guess that must be the incident you are exaggerating…Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzBernie was pushing her to the left, and she was more liberal than Obama to begin with.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzShe wouldn’t have appointed that Nazi Stephen Miller, or that notorious neocon warmonger, John Bolton.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzBut she was still a US imperialist just like every other successful Presidential candidate, just not as bad. You clearly prefer evils to be greater rather than lesser, and you love to gloat about those evil American people getting what they deserve. But there is much more at stake than the well being of the American people, anyway. You don’t seem to see that.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitz Bernd PaysanNov 23 06:23
schestowitzBernd Paysan - about 9 hours agoNov 23 06:23
schestowitzDonald Trump is a maniac, but the good thing is that a result of this, he’s not backed much by the military, the IC, and the foreign NATO partners. He threatens to do stupid things, but he actually can’t do them, and he’s so demented, that he forgets them, so they don’t happen.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzHillary Clinton would have full support of all those, and wipe out one country after the other, which she, as diplomat, certainly would not threaten, but rather do.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzWe already have the Libya and Syria debacles that started with her as Secretary of State, and already are never-ending stories like all the other wars the US started since George W. Bush. No way I want more of such things. Absolutely no way.Nov 23 06:23
schestowitzIf you do not understand how awful Clinton is, dig into Wikileaks. Please. That’s what it’s for.Nov 23 06:24
schestowitzI’m already deeply disappointed by Obama, who was clearly better than Clinton in words. But man, was he bad in office, because he didn’t dare to oppose the IC and military.Nov 23 06:24
schestowitzYes, the Clown in Charge has an absolutely awful personality, and is not fit for the job. But Clinton’s idea was that against that kind of person she couldn’t possibly lose. She well knew that nobody likes her. And then, she lost. The DNC should have kicked her out together with Debbie Wasserman Schultz.Nov 23 06:24
schestowitz"Nov 23 06:24
schestowitzWe can't stop the world and judge everything as bad/good based only on "whether HRC likes it" or "whether HRC hates it"Nov 23 06:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16521225#929186d0ea5701371e9f7a163ef10931Nov 23 06:26
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Mark #Zuckerberg says #TikTok is a threat to democracy, but didn't say he spent 6 months trying to buy its predecessor https://www.businessinsider.de/facebook-missed-out-on-buying-up-half-of-tiktok-and-now-it-says-its-a-threat-to-democracy-2019-11Nov 23 06:26
schestowitz"More like a threat to Your Facebook."Nov 23 06:26
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businessinsider.com | Facebook missed out on buying up half of TikTok, now it says it's a threat to democracy - Business InsiderNov 23 06:26
schestowitzindeedNov 23 06:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16407939#3db51500dfc8013752a70cc47a07853cNov 23 06:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zuckerberg has not lost 15+ KG since his arrest. Heck, he has not even been arrested for 15+ years of #privacy crimes and worse. #fb #facebookNov 23 06:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_6712986be069dd3452d1.jpgNov 23 06:32
schestowitz"the devil takes care of his own."Nov 23 06:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16329721#64769190d89001378731047d7b62795eNov 23 06:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Zuckerberg claims it’s not about the money, while explaining how #Libra will make money https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/23/20928995/mark-zuckerberg-congressional-testimony-facebook-libra-money-profit-cryptocurrencyNov 23 06:33
schestowitz"Nov 23 06:33
schestowitzLolNov 23 06:33
schestowitzNov 23 06:33
schestowitzDavid - 30 days agoNov 23 06:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theverge.com | Mark Zuckerberg explains how Facebook plans to make money off Libra - The VergeNov 23 06:33
schestowitzRead The Circle by Dave Eggers. The goal of Google and Facebook is to become The Circle: the de facto government of the world. Log in with Facebook or Google. Vote with Facebook or Google. Bank with Facebook or Google. Spend your whole life doing temp jobs (officially, as an independent contractor) from Facebook or Google. Send all communications through Facebook or Google. Receive all entertainment through Facebook or Google.Nov 23 06:33
schestowitzEventually, one corporation will be the de fact government of the world, unless we act before it’s too late.Nov 23 06:33
schestowitz"Nov 23 06:33
schestowitzvery worrisome and we need to highlight this 'GAFAM' threatNov 23 06:33
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/another-glen-another-gi-violation.html?showComment=1574346931887#c497763935870333720Nov 23 11:54
schestowitz"Nov 23 11:54
schestowitzI struggle with this.Nov 23 11:54
schestowitzFor a start I query the survey evidence (without knowing the question format, admittedly). If you showed 100 people bottles of whisky, or even just told them its name, and then asked them if they had any idea where it came from, a good proportion would hazard a guess at Scotland. And yet the fact that lots of whisky does indeed come from Scotland, can't mean that, regardless of whatever I call my non-Scottish whisky, I am risking an improperNov 23 11:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Another "Glen", another GI Violation– Hamburg Court considers "Glen Els" an Evocation of "Scotch Whisky" - The IPKatNov 23 11:54
schestowitzassociation with Scotland, and therefore transgress the protected GI. This is effectively what numbered para 2 above dictates.Nov 23 11:54
schestowitzIn the same way, I should think many people associate fizzy drinks made from grapes with the Champagne region, and yet giving some fizzy wine a French name (whether from non-Champagne France or another country), doesn't mean it interferes with the Champagne GI.Nov 23 11:54
schestowitz"Nov 23 11:54
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/economics-and-ip-good-bad-and-ugly-and.html?showComment=1574354142564#c58935346302795410Nov 23 11:54
schestowitz"I recommend Ruth Towse's short but conceptually helpful book "Advanced Introduction to Cultural Economics". Also Suzanne Scotchmer on Innovation and Incentives."Nov 23 11:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Economics and IP: the good, the bad and the ugly (and a request for reader feedback)? - The IPKatNov 23 11:55
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