Techrights logo

IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Sunday, December 29, 2019

Join us now at the IRC channel.

<--oiaohm has quit ()Dec 29 04:34
-->oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techbytesDec 29 05:52
schestowitzManual: https://www.vultr.com/docs/use-apachetop-to-monitor-web-server-traffic-in-real-timeDec 29 07:47
schestowitzThis one covers atop as well: https://www.datadoghq.com/blog/collect-apache-performance-metrics/Dec 29 07:47
schestowitz[root@techrights ~]# /root/apachetop.sh (set to 30 sec refresh cycle)Dec 29 07:47
schestowitzlast hit: 17:35:52         atop runtime:  0 days, 00:00:25             17:35:53Dec 29 07:47
schestowitzAll:          114 reqs (   4.6/sec)       5906.7K (  236.3K/sec)      51.8K/reqDec 29 07:47
schestowitz2xx:     102 (89.5%) 3xx:       9 ( 7.9%) 4xx:     3 ( 2.6%) 5xx:     0 ( 0.0%)Dec 29 07:47
schestowitzR ( 25s):     114 reqs (   4.6/sec)       5906.7K (  236.3K/sec)      51.8K/reqDec 29 07:47
schestowitz2xx:     102 (89.5%) 3xx:       9 ( 7.9%) 4xx:     3 ( 2.6%) 5xx:     0 ( 0.0%)Dec 29 07:47
schestowitz REQS REQ/S    KB KB/S URLDec 29 07:47
schestowitz   28  1.12 124.4  5.0*/wp-login.phpDec 29 07:47
schestowitz   10  0.43 165.9  7.2 /wiki/index.phpDec 29 07:48
schestowitz    4  0.16 488.4 19.5 /2019/12/28/gates-foundation-exodus/Dec 29 07:48
schestowitz    4  0.31  74.0  5.7 /wp-content/uploads/2008/03/116px-Gartoon-Gedit-icon.pngDec 29 07:48
schestowitz    4  0.17 192.8  8.0 /wp-content/uploads/2019/12/reputation-management.jpgDec 29 07:48
schestowitz    3  0.13 113.5  4.9 /2019/12/26/dumber-prebuilt-os/Dec 29 07:48
schestowitz> TM went down again at sometime around 2019-12-29 07:18:39 UTCDec 29 07:51
schestowitz>Dec 29 07:51
schestowitz> It was not responding to either HTTP or SSH.Dec 29 07:51
schestowitz>Dec 29 07:51
schestowitz> I've restarted it.Dec 29 07:51
schestowitzWow, I did not even notice until now.Dec 29 07:51
schestowitzThanks for being on it.Dec 29 07:51
schestowitzThat's second time in 2 days. Yesterday I ran yum update on the server just to see the list of packages it would upgrade IF we went ahead. I didn't go ahead. What benefit would there be? AFAIK, mostly risk of something breaking and maybe security edge. It still uses the centos 6.x family.Dec 29 07:51
social_log#macasayDec 29 07:56
social_loghttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/53968.htmlDec 29 07:56
social_log> The padding should be reduced somewhat throughout irclog.css to use lessDec 29 08:19
social_log> vertical space.  e.g.Dec 29 08:19
social_log>Dec 29 08:19
social_log> th.nick {Dec 29 08:19
social_log>   color: #ffffff;Dec 29 08:19
<--social_log has quit (Excess Flood)Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz> The padding should be reduced somewhat throughout irclog.css to use lessDec 29 08:19
schestowitz> vertical space.  e.g.Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz> th.nick {Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   color: #ffffff;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   padding: 0.25em 0.5em;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   box-shadow: -0.2em 0.2em 0.2em #c1c1c1;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   font-size: 105%;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   font-variant: small-caps;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   text-align: center;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   text-shadow: #000 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz> }Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz> However, the date/time stamp seems to be what is really burning up theDec 29 08:19
schestowitz> vertical space.Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz> a.time {Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   padding: 0 1em 0 0;Dec 29 08:19
schestowitz>   border-top: thin dotted #c1c1c1;Dec 29 08:20
schestowitz> }Dec 29 08:20
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:20
schestowitz> Also, there are a bunch of absolute values in the stylesheet whichDec 29 08:20
schestowitz> should be moved to relative measurements, so that the page resizesDec 29 08:20
schestowitz> properly.Dec 29 08:20
schestowitzWhich browser are you testing with? I tried with chro* and FF, among others.Dec 29 08:20
schestowitzI applied all the above changes (commented one the old in case of need t o revert back.Dec 29 08:20
schestowitzI had to set padding for a.time at a high value to keep it at one line, at least in chro*. We can make further changes; they're applicable retroactively to all older logs, going over a decade back.Dec 29 08:20
-->social_log (~roy@host81-152-238-96.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytesDec 29 08:21
schestowitz>> If we make a complete backup, do we know how to restore from it? In caseDec 29 08:24
schestowitz>> things go wrong?Dec 29 08:24
schestowitz> I would think that it could be tested on a second machine.  HoweverDec 29 08:24
schestowitz> setting up that machine and its network would be about a day or day andDec 29 08:24
schestowitz> a half of work, assuming not too many interruptions.Dec 29 08:24
schestowitzDo you think it's worth leaving things as is/are?Dec 29 08:24
schestowitz>> Less than an hour ago I noticed the results of the Debian vote; seemsDec 29 08:24
schestowitz>> like Devuan was saved.Dec 29 08:24
schestowitz> I very much hope so.Dec 29 08:24
schestowitzNo statement still (that I can see)Dec 29 08:24
schestowitz>>>  Maybe some more developers will join it now that the Debian TC hasDec 29 08:26
schestowitz>>> decided to kick everyone where it hurts.Dec 29 08:26
schestowitz>> I suppose I misread the outcome; sounds like offering alternatives isDec 29 08:26
schestowitz>> still a priority. But maybe only 'in principle', not in practice...Dec 29 08:26
schestowitz> The active verb is "explore".  There is zero commitment there.Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> Option 2 "B: Systemd but we support exploring alternatives"Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> ...Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> Option 6 "E: Support for multiple init systems is Required"Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> Option 7 "G: Support portability and multiple implementations"Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> Options 6 and 7 are close enough that they might have been added toDec 29 08:27
schestowitz> split the numbers and prevent support for multiple init [sic] systemsDec 29 08:27
schestowitz> from ascending to the top.Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz>> Linus is 50 today, but nobody except us mentioned it..Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> Yes, the SJWs cancelled him last year.  He is still very important.Dec 29 08:27
schestowitz> However, at his age, and especially with multiple kids running upDec 29 08:27
schestowitz> college bills, I don't expect him to take his trademarks and fork theDec 29 08:27
schestowitz> kernel.Dec 29 08:27
schestowitzI find it odd that not a SINGLE Linux blog mentioned the birthday.Dec 29 08:27
schestowitzdevuan position? https://twitter.com/jaromil/status/1210841285554249728Dec 29 08:28
-->TechBytesBot (~b0t@199.19.78.19) has joined #techbytesDec 29 08:28
TechBytesBotHello World! I'm TechBytesBot running phIRCe v0.75Dec 29 08:28
schestowitz> Dear Dr. Schestowitz,Dec 29 08:54
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:54
schestowitz> My name's Daniel, and I go online mostly by "Canta". We've talked beforeDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> by email.Dec 29 08:54
schestowitzYes, we have :-)Dec 29 08:54
schestowitz> I've sent an email last week to bytesmedia account (you gave me thatDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> address in some exchange we had), regarding an article I wrote withDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> Techrights in mind.Dec 29 08:54
schestowitzI've just checked again that account. No, nothing received from you there although it's on the same host as schestowitz.com and I believe I did receive mail from you on that account before, e.g. CSS work or site redesign.Dec 29 08:54
schestowitz> I have no answer, which is fine: but some people also tell me from timeDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> to time that they don't get my emails (I have my own mail server), andDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> so I'm starting to fear that's the case with my message to bytesmediaDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> account.Dec 29 08:54
schestowitzSent a test -- no attachment -- mail to bytesmedia@bytesmedia.co.ukDec 29 08:54
schestowitzlet's see what happensDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> So, just in case, I also send the same article directly to you. It'sDec 29 08:54
schestowitz> here:Dec 29 08:54
schestowitz> https://blog.canta.com.ar/2019/12/22/on-freedoms-and-rights-regarding-some-recent-events-around-free-software/Dec 29 08:54
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:55
schestowitz>Dec 29 08:55
schestowitz> It's about politics on Free Software, with also some science stuff inDec 29 08:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.canta.com.ar | On freedoms and rights, regarding some recent events around Free Software. | Daniel Cantarín – BlogDec 29 08:55
schestowitz> the middle. I wrote it as a response to other two guest posts.Dec 29 08:55
schestowitz> I fear it's too long for Techrights, and even that it may say things notDec 29 08:55
schestowitz> fully compatible with Techrights' political ideas. So don't worry if youDec 29 08:55
schestowitz> have to reject it. But if you like it, I would be honored to have itDec 29 08:55
schestowitz> posted as guest article in Techrights, as I believe that's the rightDec 29 08:55
schestowitz> place for a discussion like that.Dec 29 08:55
schestowitzI am going to read it now. Even if I disagree, I might still post it. I don't want to abuse editorial control. What matters is the accuracy (e.g. not antivaxx etc)Dec 29 08:55
schestowitz> Thanks, and happy new year.Dec 29 08:55
schestowitz> Daniel.Dec 29 08:55
schestowitzYou too!Dec 29 08:55
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.sammobile.com/news/new-galaxy-note-9-android-10-beta-is-out-fixes-just-one-bug/" rel="nofollow">New Galaxy Note 9 Android 10 beta is out, fixes just one bug</a></h5></li>Dec 29 09:01
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.komando.com/downloads/10-best-apps-for-new-androids/698886/" rel="nofollow">10 best apps to install on your new Android</a></h5></li>Dec 29 09:01
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.androidcentral.com/android-central-podcast-454-decade-review" rel="nofollow">Android Central Podcast #454: Decade in review</a></h5></li>Dec 29 09:01
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.talkandroid.com/347904-top-selling-android-phone-q3-2019/" rel="nofollow">The top-selling Android phone in Q3 of 2019 might surprise you</a></h5></li>Dec 29 09:01
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/features/what-is-android-rcs-messaging-how-to-enable-it-064615.html" rel="nofollow">What Is Android RCS Messaging? How To Enable It?</a></h5></li>Dec 29 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.sammobile.com | New Galaxy Note 9 Android 10 beta is out, fixes just one bug - SamMobileDec 29 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.komando.com | 10 best apps to install on your new Android - Komando.comDec 29 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.androidcentral.com | Android Central Podcast #454: Decade in review | Android CentralDec 29 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.talkandroid.com | The top-selling Android phone in Q3 of 2019 might surprise you | TalkAndroid.comDec 29 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.gizbot.com | What Is Android RCS Messaging? How To Enable It? - Gizbot NewsDec 29 09:01
schestowitz>   > Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff=E2=80=99s Office to Divulg=Dec 29 09:04
schestowitz>   > eDec 29 09:04
schestowitz>   > Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill GatesDec 29 09:04
schestowitz>   > http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/Dec 29 09:04
schestowitz>Dec 29 09:04
schestowitz> You could help me by not adding to the attention that they get byDec 29 09:04
schestowitz> bringing this up.  How about talking about an issue of real importanceDec 29 09:04
schestowitz> to users' freedom?Dec 29 09:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | TechrightsDec 29 09:04
schestowitzI have been writing about both aspects. I think media being abused for personal agenda is a longstanding issue. FAIR.org has long spoken about that.Dec 29 09:04
schestowitz>> Been fscking my external drive for nearly 12 hours now. I'll need to buyDec 29 09:12
schestowitz>> a new one or risk serious data loss of archives, not just backups. IDec 29 09:12
schestowitz>> have two drives, the other seems mostly OK for now.Dec 29 09:12
schestowitz>>Dec 29 09:12
schestowitz> I'd give serious consideration to using ZFS on the next one.  It hasDec 29 09:12
schestowitz> checksumming on the files themselves.Dec 29 09:12
schestowitzI think my next >main< machine ought to be RAIDed, but I can't think of low-cost machines with that. I rely on weekly (ish) nightly dumps of two partitions (media and 'the rest'). This disk turns 11 soon.Dec 29 09:12
schestowitz>>> Options 6 and 7 are close enough that they might have been added toDec 29 09:13
schestowitz>>> split the numbers and prevent support for multiple init [sic] systemsDec 29 09:13
schestowitz>>> from ascending to the top.Dec 29 09:13
schestowitz>> devuan position? https://twitter.com/jaromil/status/1210841285554249728Dec 29 09:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jaromil: Debian vote is tallied: wins "Systemd but we support exploring alternatives" https://t.co/owmlD6VmyM the order of r… https://t.co/Z6Bw0tMaT9Dec 29 09:13
schestowitz>>Dec 29 09:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jaromil: Debian vote is tallied: wins "Systemd but we support exploring alternatives" https://t.co/owmlD6VmyM the order of r… https://t.co/Z6Bw0tMaT9Dec 29 09:13
schestowitz> No position statement there that I can see.  However, he does seem toDec 29 09:13
schestowitz> agree that the vote was split, as I mentioned.Dec 29 09:13
schestowitzbetter for the project to say nothing, I guessDec 29 09:13
schestowitzany statement can cause unnecessary tensionsDec 29 09:13
schestowitzRe: Linus turns 50 (was Re: TM locked up)>>Dec 29 09:17
schestowitz>> I find it odd that not a SINGLE Linux blog mentioned the birthday.Dec 29 09:17
schestowitz> He's been cancelled.  It's just lucky for him that they chose not toDec 29 09:17
schestowitz> fabricate worse accusations.  Maybe they are holding something over hisDec 29 09:17
schestowitz> head to keep him so quiet but he could, technically and legally, walkDec 29 09:17
schestowitz> away taking the code and the trademark with him.Dec 29 09:17
schestowitz>> I think my next >main< machine ought to be RAIDed, but I can't think ofDec 29 09:21
schestowitz>> low-cost machines with that. I rely on weekly (ish) nightly dumps of twoDec 29 09:21
schestowitz>> partitions (media and 'the rest'). This disk turns 11 soon.Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz>> With multiple drives ZFS has the same capabilities as RAID but also withDec 29 09:21
schestowitz> checksumming.Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz>Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz> As for hardware, I'd look at these possibly:Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz>Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz> http://linuxgizmos.com/sata-hats-support-up-to-four-drives-on-raspberry-pi-4-or-rock-pi-4/Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz>Dec 29 09:21
schestowitz> And add three drives to it.Dec 29 09:21
schestowitzThanks, just waiting for this machine to break down totally first.Dec 29 09:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-linuxgizmos.com | SATA HATs support up to four drives on Raspberry Pi 4 or Rock Pi 4Dec 29 09:21
schestowitzBattery: deadDec 29 09:21
schestowitzKeyboard: many buttons defunctDec 29 09:21
schestowitzScreen: deadDec 29 09:21
schestowitzOn its last leg now...Dec 29 09:21
<--oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Dec 29 10:00
-->oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techbytesDec 29 10:01
<--oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Dec 29 18:17
-->oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techbytesDec 29 18:18
-->rianne__ (~liberty@host81-152-238-96.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytesDec 29 21:05
<--rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)Dec 29 21:08
<--Condor has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)Dec 29 22:01
-->Condor (~freenode@e3.nixmagic.com) has joined #techbytesDec 29 23:00

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!