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schestowitzcheers, we'll have both networks loggedMay 30 00:00
schestowitzmaybe one will be closer circles but not hiddenMay 30 00:00
MinceR:)May 30 00:00
schestowitzthat can help keep the likes of GoogleTroll outMay 30 00:00
schestowitzso we can focus on less Ryan and Mandy...May 30 00:01
schestowitzor RussiaMay 30 00:01
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MinceRlolMay 30 00:05
MinceRi didn't realize Ryan was such a thret :>May 30 00:06
MinceRs/et/eat/May 30 00:06
schestowitzserver situation back under control now and we're better off now... as I've long wanted to self-host IRC to a better degreeMay 30 00:08
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622306010314#c1786858087456114464May 30 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKatMay 30 01:08
schestowitz"May 30 01:08
schestowitzWell, I think there are 2 aspects worth considering with respect to the opponents partiality issues:May 30 01:08
schestowitz1) Two more members are suspected of also having worked in some form on the new ViCo rules, but the Board only said they are "not aware" of this. Avoiding to simply confirming that no, these members have not done that, is indeed not really the level of transparency one would hope for.May 30 01:08
schestowitz2) Saying that every member intrinsically always has an implicit personal interest in the outcome is a rather far-reaching argument. It implies that the EBoA simply cannot decide this case, regardless of composition or structure. So who should then do it? The ICJ? The UN? A diplomatic conference?May 30 01:08
schestowitz"May 30 01:08
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schestowitz__this is self-hosting testMay 30 10:31
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schestowitzOh, interesting [10:52] [400] schestowitz NICK You must use your account name as your nicknameMay 30 10:53
schestowitzI am guessing it a server-side config thingMay 30 10:53
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622317758784#c3045583345355076578May 30 11:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKatMay 30 11:20
schestowitz"May 30 11:20
schestowitzWhat is at stake in G 1/21 is no more than an EPO 2.0 which is not covered by the EPC as it stands!May 30 11:20
schestowitzIt is not merely whether you can sit comfortably in your UK office when there is an OP, but it is about a total reshaping of the EPO.May 30 11:20
schestowitz@ Anonymous of Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 11:20:00 BSTMay 30 11:20
schestowitzIf there are amateurs at work, I would rather see them on the side of the EBA and of the president’s representatives.May 30 11:20
schestowitzHaving to be told by a party to look at the RPEBA cannot be seen as glorious. Where have you ever seen a court not aware of its own rules of procedure?May 30 11:20
schestowitz@ Anonymous of Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 17:33:00 BSTMay 30 11:20
schestowitzSaying that “every member intrinsically always has an implicit personal interest in the outcome is a rather far-reaching argument” is correct.May 30 11:20
schestowitzBut it touches on one aspect which has not been really discussed up to know: thanks to Art 15a(3) RPBA in combination with Art 15a(1) RPBA every member of the BA and hence every member of examining and opposition divisions will be allowed to sit wherever he likes. This is paving the way for the “New Normal”.May 30 11:20
schestowitzWithout mandatory OP by ViCo there is no “New Normal”. This should not be forgotten.May 30 11:20
schestowitzThe EBA declared in G 2/19 that “Users of the European Patent Organisation's services can legitimately expect that the European Patent Office's departments will not perform acts at whatever other place they choose”.May 30 11:20
schestowitzHow is this statement compatible with Art 15a(3) RPBA20 and the “New Normal”?May 30 11:20
schestowitzOne the other hand the opponent just wanted to draw the attention of the EBA in which impossible situation it has put itself with confusing speed and precipitation. That it is why the EBA had no choice but to declare the request on partiality not admissible. I am curious to see what reasons will be given for this legal pirouette.May 30 11:20
schestowitz"May 30 11:20
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622365768648#c6470883968457747269May 30 11:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKatMay 30 11:47
schestowitz"May 30 11:47
schestowitzDear Kant,May 30 11:47
schestowitzBy giving the majority in the EBA to external members, some people, names need not be given, would loose control of the EBA/BA as the external members most probably do not care about not being re-appointed.May 30 11:47
schestowitzBut the (perception of the) independence of the BA has improved since 2016!May 30 11:47
schestowitzWho do you think you are to ask such a nasty question and to raise doubts about the impartiality of members of the BA?May 30 11:47
schestowitzThe whole mess the BA/EBA finds itself in, is the direct result of the reform of the BA wanted by a former head of the EPO.May 30 11:47
schestowitzIt is a scandal that members of the BA can only be reappointed if they have shown a given "performance". The criteria are still non-public.This is also scandalous!May 30 11:47
schestowitzWithout leaning to far out of the window, performance means probably a certain flexibility of the spine associated with a production increasing every year like in DG1.May 30 11:47
schestowitzThe EPO has indeed been degraded to a producer of "targets",.May 30 11:47
schestowitzWhen one sees the number of patents revoked or severely limited in opposition because the grant procedure is flawed, it becomes alarming. Just look at the published decisions and draw your conclusions. As only 5% of patents are opposed, when you extrapolate to all the grants it is daunting!May 30 11:47
schestowitz"May 30 11:47
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MinceRweird :)May 30 14:56
schestowitzjust tried again, same outcomeMay 30 15:23
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MinceRit's particularly weird considering that there's a group command in nickservMay 30 16:11
MinceRand identify takes a nick/account name as parameterMay 30 16:11
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schestowitzit's not a big deal, but...May 30 19:47
schestowitzin logs it would help if the username had something added to itMay 30 19:48
schestowitzI thought about adding some flair to a particular networkMay 30 19:48
schestowitzbut in practice it would definitely be harder to implement, so username differences can be done from the other networkMay 30 19:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UndeadDrMcCoy/status/1398945186642857991May 30 20:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@UndeadDrMcCoy: @schestowitz Amazing how consistent the endless bullshit streaming from your face hole isMay 30 20:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PieroCastellano/status/1398925333643075586May 30 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PieroCastellano: Not sure that the world is ready to learn the true story of that shark thing. https://t.co/XcqHMU0pnjMay 30 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #DigitalMusicNews #Copyrights #Copyright ☞ Robert Plant Wants His Personal Archives Released for Free Afte… https://t.co/Qxv8U9F94RMay 30 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1398923417580093442May 30 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: surpriiiiiiiiiiiiiise https://t.co/0q9cc8uhqGMay 30 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | Kushner's Abraham Accords Didn't Produce Israel-Palestine Peace and Are Increas… https://t.co/G3SrDgapiDMay 30 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maetrojl/status/1398908223940272128May 30 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maetrojl: @gael_duval @schestowitzMay 30 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Symbo1ics/status/1398825607983730688May 30 20:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Symbo1ics: @schestowitz 🤡🤡🤡May 30 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maetrojl/status/1398784856465690627May 30 20:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maetrojl: @nypost @schestowitzMay 30 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ElementMan4/status/1398645423951200261May 30 20:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ElementMan4: @schestowitz There are other ways to get them vaccine without property confiscation that will result in the destruc… https://t.co/ChWK62b4RiMay 30 20:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ElementMan4: @schestowitz There are other ways to get them vaccine without property confiscation that will result in the destruc… https://t.co/ChWK62b4RiMay 30 20:12
schestowitz"There are other ways to get them vaccine without property confiscation that will result in the destruction of innovation. Next time there won't be a vaccine to distribute. Well maybe there will be but  not as good. Think Sputnik or CovidVac"May 30 20:13
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