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| matey | /me wonders if anyone ever mixed "hometown" by adele with "my hometown" by springsteen | Apr 02 00:07 |
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| MinceR | [Subject Hometown Here] | Apr 02 00:07 |
| matey | i guess there was an artist in belarus who used to paint jews flying over housetops playing the fiddle? | Apr 02 00:10 |
| matey | from vitebsk | Apr 02 00:10 |
| matey | /me plays the devil went down the georgia (other georgia) | Apr 02 00:11 |
| *psydruid wonders if anyone has ever joined "like a hurricane" by neil young with "I'm on fire" by bruce springsteen | Apr 02 00:11 | |
| matey | bruce was very calm for a guy who was on fire | Apr 02 00:12 |
| matey | thats the first thing they say you should do in a fire, is dont panic | Apr 02 00:12 |
| MinceR | the only mashup i remember hearing was of "Don't Stop" by ATB(?) and "Bla Bla Bla" by Gigi D'Agostino | Apr 02 00:12 |
| matey | hes the very model of a safety officer. except for being on fire of course | Apr 02 00:12 |
| matey | oh my favourite maships are by dj earworm | Apr 02 00:12 |
| matey | except for the name of course. | Apr 02 00:12 |
| matey | /me imagines that maships are like mashed potatoes, except with turnips as a subtstitute | Apr 02 00:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 02 00:13 |
| matey | theyre ok with the right seasoning | Apr 02 00:13 |
| matey | good for you too | Apr 02 00:13 |
| matey | they go well with cabbage | Apr 02 00:14 |
| matey | at least as well as anything can | Apr 02 00:14 |
| matey | at this point i have SOME idea how to do a mashup, so if i ever find myself with $5000 to blow on mixing equipment... | Apr 02 00:15 |
| matey | /me could do it more cheaply, but thats no fun | Apr 02 00:15 |
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| matey | im not saying it would be any good | Apr 02 00:16 |
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| matey | /me has a text file with many "cue points" for playing "too funky" by george michael | Apr 02 00:16 |
| matey | you can have some fun with that, but its limited | Apr 02 00:16 |
| matey | i think i would have to actually install pulseaudio (possible, just not desirable) to get it to actually mix two audio tracks together | Apr 02 00:17 |
| matey | in realtime, without preprocessing | Apr 02 00:17 |
| matey | i swear there used to be another option. obviously thats gone by the wayside, assuming it existed | Apr 02 00:18 |
| matey | theres jack audio, but im not sure what it wants/needs | Apr 02 00:18 |
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| XRevan86 | Did someone say "PipeWire"? | Apr 02 00:19 |
| matey | /me refuses | Apr 02 00:19 |
| matey | i refuse to use any new shit, but the old shit isnt supported | Apr 02 00:19 |
| matey | i may change my mind at some point, but by then there will probably be new new shit | Apr 02 00:20 |
| matey | /me waits for baph os to be based on bsd | Apr 02 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That's an interesting take on software evaluation. | Apr 02 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | new==bad | Apr 02 00:20 |
| matey | its a simplified explanation and not entirely true. | Apr 02 00:20 |
| matey | i do use new things | Apr 02 00:20 |
| matey | i just dont like having new things shoved forcefully up my | Apr 02 00:21 |
| matey | "we move on" | Apr 02 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Look at qpwgraph and Helvum. | Apr 02 00:21 |
| matey | thanks. i havent heard of them, so they cant be ALL bad | Apr 02 00:21 |
| matey | /me liked systemd before it went all mainstream | Apr 02 00:21 |
| matey | thats a lie of course-- but i definitely preferred it that way | Apr 02 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | These are patchbays/graphs for PipeWire. | Apr 02 00:22 |
| matey | aww | Apr 02 00:22 |
| matey | i havent made a final decision about pipewire yet | Apr 02 00:22 |
| matey | its ibm isnt it? something like that. | Apr 02 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | qjackctl and Carla will work too. | Apr 02 00:22 |
| activelow | matey: bsd kernel? | Apr 02 00:23 |
| matey | PipeWire is Free Software and is developed in the open. It was created by Wim Taymans, Principal Engineer at Red Hat and co-creator of the GStreamer multimedia framework. | Apr 02 00:23 |
| matey | <activelow> matey: bsd kernel? <- yes, but no rush | Apr 02 00:23 |
| matey | <XRevan86> qjackctl and Carla will work too. <- the real problem is that like roy, im waiting for github to die | Apr 02 00:23 |
| matey | but i want to push it off a very tall building, i dont want to wait 15 years | Apr 02 00:24 |
| matey | so basically at this point, i DO avoid most new software-- just not solely because its new | Apr 02 00:24 |
| matey | because its all tainted by monopolies i wish would hurry up and die already (but unlike roy im not so ridiculously optimistic) | Apr 02 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | matey: https://gitlab.com/rncbc/qjackctl your point? | Apr 02 00:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rui Nuno Capela / qjackctl · GitLab | Apr 02 00:24 | |
| matey | https://gitlab.com/rncbc/qjackctl <- \o/ | Apr 02 00:25 |
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| matey | its nice when developers display a bit of sense. | Apr 02 00:25 |
| matey | ive actually used qjackctl, for something... | Apr 02 00:25 |
| matey | but it was a couple years ago so | Apr 02 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | PipeWire, qjackctl and Helvum are also on GitLab. | Apr 02 00:26 |
| matey | QjackCtl is a simple Qt application to control the JACK sound server daemon <- so its just jack + some gui | Apr 02 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | qpwgraph I mean | Apr 02 00:26 |
| matey | ill look at helvum | Apr 02 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Yea, but the important part is the graph. qpwgraph is made by the same developer specifically for PipeWire. | Apr 02 00:27 |
| matey | what id like to do as far as mixing goes (this assumes a situation where i have more to spend than i do now of course) | Apr 02 00:27 |
| matey | is just get standalone dj equipment | Apr 02 00:27 |
| matey | the problem with standalone dj equipment, apart from being more expensive... | Apr 02 00:27 |
| matey | is theyre busy trying to turn it all into cloud shit | Apr 02 00:27 |
| matey | with dj equipment righ tnow you have a choice | Apr 02 00:27 |
| matey | cheaper, but usable mixer "controller" with non-free software, OR... | Apr 02 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | PipeWire and JACKd are the solutions here, the latter being the far harder to use one | Apr 02 00:28 |
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| matey | standalone hardware that doesnt require software. | Apr 02 00:28 |
| matey | presumably its all firmware then | Apr 02 00:28 |
| matey | the problem is, the longer things go on, the more the industry realises it can tie their "standalone" stuff into web-based shit | Apr 02 00:29 |
| matey | or otherwise online update shit | Apr 02 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That's assuming it doesn't need any software trickery. | Apr 02 00:29 |
| matey | <XRevan86> matey: That's assuming it doesn't need any software trickery. <- of course | Apr 02 00:29 |
| matey | but since i dont have $5000 to blow on toys i barely have any skills required to use, its semi-moot | Apr 02 00:29 |
| matey | this isnt even a fantasy of mine, more like an idle daydream | Apr 02 00:29 |
| matey | a fantasy would be something more serious "god i wish i could | Apr 02 00:30 |
| matey | "if i were serious about it id be trying to figure out how i could free up $5000 but there isnt enough passion about this | Apr 02 00:30 |
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| XRevan86 | matey: A free software solution doesn't require any commitment however, but it can be addicting. | Apr 02 00:30 |
| matey | so its almost purely hypothetical. unless $5000 falls into my lap for some reason | Apr 02 00:31 |
| matey | then id have to actually think about it | Apr 02 00:31 |
| matey | <XRevan86> matey: A free software solution doesn't require any commitment however, but it can be addicting. <- the problem for me is this | Apr 02 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I can think of other ways to spend 5 grand. | Apr 02 00:31 |
| matey | i care more about boycotting most software than i do about | Apr 02 00:31 |
| matey | most things | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | and not just boycotting | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | im TRYING to get to the point where i can actually point to the software thats the LEAST bullshit | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | and build on that | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | but i refuse to get 50% of my software from fucking microsoft | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | and another 25% from ibm | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | i mean i spent 10 years getting away from that. | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | it wont do. | Apr 02 00:32 |
| matey | if i had no hope it would improve id chuck my computer out the window | Apr 02 00:33 |
| matey | i can process sound in all sorts of ways. there are programming languages designed around the idea of producing music (electronica at least) | Apr 02 00:33 |
| matey | most are too tedious to bother with for now, but sometimes i surprise myself. i swore it was too much trouble to create a distro. i did that anyway. | Apr 02 00:34 |
| matey | the only way id ever make a distro is if it was completely automated and a remix just meant changing some code. | Apr 02 00:34 |
| matey | so thats exactly what i did. | Apr 02 00:34 |
| matey | but i swore it was too much trouble, until it wasnt. | Apr 02 00:35 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/people-caused-by-accidents.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/06/i-was-conceived-in-a-head-on-collision/ ) | Apr 02 00:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | I was conceived in a head-on collision. | Apr 02 00:36 | |
| matey | maybe someday it will be like that with music | Apr 02 00:36 |
| matey | i really love music, i dont claim to be good at it. i tried learning piano once :) | Apr 02 00:36 |
| bnchs | MinceR: that is true | Apr 02 00:37 |
| bnchs | and what happens if you dont use a fucking condom | Apr 02 00:37 |
| matey | im a very big fan of bobby mcferrin and reggie watts. they dont even need instruments. | Apr 02 00:37 |
| bnchs | PRACTICE SAFE SECKS AND PUT ON CONDOMS | Apr 02 00:37 |
| matey | <bnchs> and what happens if you dont use a fucking condom <- i love that i have no idea what this is a response to | Apr 02 00:37 |
| bnchs | 90% of all people are caused by accidents | Apr 02 00:38 |
| bnchs | if you use condoms | Apr 02 00:38 |
| bnchs | you could get rid of those 90% | Apr 02 00:38 |
| bnchs | and leave only 9% in the world | Apr 02 00:38 |
| matey | well, at least a large percentage of that 90% | Apr 02 00:38 |
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| bnchs | 10% | Apr 02 00:38 |
| bnchs | i mean | Apr 02 00:38 |
| matey | you triggered dfcs breederdar | Apr 02 00:39 |
| matey | dfc: we were just complaining about breeders, i shit you not | Apr 02 00:39 |
| bnchs | ikisboikis seeris ikis | Apr 02 00:39 |
| matey | then you showed up, as if on cue | Apr 02 00:39 |
| bnchs | its just good timing | Apr 02 00:39 |
| matey | unlike 90% of births | Apr 02 00:39 |
| bnchs | 95%* | Apr 02 00:40 |
| bnchs | everytime you say the percentage, it increases | Apr 02 00:40 |
| matey | i suppose in a world this ridiculous, nearly all births are poorly timed | Apr 02 00:40 |
| matey | <bnchs> everytime you say the percentage, it increases <- so its like one of those youtube videos that goes "lion king theme but every tieme they say "its a lion" in african the pitch increases" | Apr 02 00:41 |
| matey | ^ african is a language | Apr 02 00:41 |
| matey | like european | Apr 02 00:42 |
| matey | or asian | Apr 02 00:42 |
| matey | some say canadian is a language, but theyve obviously never heard it then | Apr 02 00:42 |
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| matey | "atTACK SUR FACE" | Apr 02 00:43 |
| matey | jeff bezos looks like dr evil and theo de raadt talks like him | Apr 02 00:43 |
| matey | lets hope they never join forces | Apr 02 00:43 |
| matey | american is actually british english with bits of canadian, spanish and german thrown in | Apr 02 00:47 |
| matey | Helvum is a GTK-based patchbay for pipewire, inspired by the JACK tool catia. Features planned. Volume control "Debug mode" that lets you view advanced information for nodes and ports | Apr 02 00:53 |
| matey | The straw-coloured fruit bat (Eidolon helvum) is a large fruit bat that is the most widely distributed of all the African megabats.It is quite common throughout its area ranging from the southwestern Arabian Peninsula | Apr 02 00:53 |
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| matey | /me is half-surprised no one is doing dj shows using emacs somehow | Apr 02 01:00 |
| matey | dj mode | Apr 02 01:01 |
| matey | https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2021/11/24/the-most-controversial-change-in-emacs-history/ | Apr 02 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lars.ingebrigtsen.no | The Most Controversial Change In Emacs History – Random Thoughts | Apr 02 01:02 | |
| matey | "The attractive thing about this change is that, well, it’s prettier, but it’s also more consistent with the other elements at the margins of the Emacs frame: The menus and the toolbar have used proportional fonts for a long time" | Apr 02 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://tenrecipes.com/slow-cooker-beef-bourguignon/ | Apr 02 01:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenrecipes.com | SLOW COOKER BEEF BOURGUIGNON – Top 10 Recipes | Apr 02 01:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I always wondered why cooking wine wasn't taxed and nobody got ID'd for it. | Apr 02 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Took a small sip and it's so salty that nobody could drink it. | Apr 02 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think maybe some hardcore alcoholic, but I'd go for the Listerine first before this stuff. :P | Apr 02 01:08 |
| matey | /me wonders how julia child dealt with all that salt | Apr 02 01:09 |
| matey | oh of course, she just used sherry | Apr 02 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I recall her drinking it while she cooked. | Apr 02 01:10 |
| matey | i wasnt sure if it was an urban legend or not | Apr 02 01:13 |
| matey | im SOOOOO GLAD you could spend this time with me | Apr 02 01:14 |
| matey | be sure to make your brocolli rosettes look like happy little rosettes... no, thats bob ross, oh well! lets test the sherry again | Apr 02 01:15 |
| matey | i never know where julia ends and dan ackroyd begins | Apr 02 01:16 |
| matey | /me wishes there had been a real cooking show on pbs where dan acroyd played julia child every week | Apr 02 01:17 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tGg4njImm0Y Julia Child Burns Food | Apr 02 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Julia Child Burns Food - Invidious | Apr 02 01:25 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/tu31hq/all_of_the_teslas/ | Apr 02 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ALL of the Teslas! : LateStageCapitalism | Apr 02 01:28 | |
| AdmFubar | I don't recall julia drinking while she cooked... but graham kerr I remember he did..... | Apr 02 01:33 |
| matey | "This subreddit is a safe space; we have a zero-tolerance policy for bigotry. We also automatically filter out posts containing certain words and phrases that some users may find offensive. Please respect the safe space, and don't try to slip banned words or phrases past the filter." lenin would have found this adorable (and stupid) | Apr 02 01:35 |
| AdmFubar | I think when he cooked with wine he'd finish the bottle by the end of the show | Apr 02 01:35 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=99-n42Xb6NQ julia child vs gordon ramsay | Apr 02 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gordon Ramsay vs Julia Child. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious | Apr 02 01:36 | |
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| matey | i love the things they do to make this stuff | Apr 02 01:40 |
| AdmFubar | matey should watch kevin belton, hiw outtakes are funny | Apr 02 01:40 |
| matey | to make the feathers fly up when she hits the bird with a hammer, they put features in a dixie cup and used a compressed air hose | Apr 02 01:41 |
| matey | which couldnt be more obvious, after youve seen them do it | Apr 02 01:41 |
| matey | /me looks up kevin belton outtakes and only finds https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mfPyRA5djC0 | Apr 02 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Today's Special: Chef Kev's best bloopers - Invidious | Apr 02 01:42 | |
| matey | they put features in a dixie cup <- sort of like most software these days | Apr 02 01:43 |
| matey | s/features/feathers/ | Apr 02 01:43 |
| matey | its not a bird, its a feather | Apr 02 01:43 |
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| AdmFubar | they put typos int a Dixie cup too | Apr 02 01:46 |
| matey | that was cute but seemed a bit generic | Apr 02 01:47 |
| matey | tv news guys all seem like that to me | Apr 02 01:47 |
| AdmFubar | what was cute? | Apr 02 01:48 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mfPyRA5djC0 | Apr 02 01:52 |
| matey | he seems to be enjoying himself at least | Apr 02 01:52 |
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| AdmFubar | oh that... that one isn't very good... the good ones are at the end of his show... he is usually on around 11-11:30 am on CreateTV... if you have that take a look | Apr 02 02:10 |
| matey | yeah i didnt think that was probably his best stuff | Apr 02 02:10 |
| matey | its what i found-- good to know | Apr 02 02:10 |
| matey | incidentally, i got curious if there were any news anchors making dumb jokes about the twin towers collapsing-- because, hey, i have a very low opinion of news anchors (mostly) | Apr 02 02:12 |
| matey | and in the results, first page (mixed in with the others, not at the top) are not one, but TWO results about will smith and chris rock at the oscars | Apr 02 02:12 |
| matey | shocking? no. a bit surreal? maybe | Apr 02 02:12 |
| matey | stay classy, gulag | Apr 02 02:13 |
| matey | "news anchor jokes twin towers" <- the query | Apr 02 02:13 |
| matey | i didnt find any news anchors making jokes though | Apr 02 02:14 |
| matey | wait, make that three videos about the oscars thing | Apr 02 02:15 |
| techrights-news | Lutris Game Manager Adds Steam Deck Support, EA Origin and Ubisoft Connect Integration • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163249 | Apr 02 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lutris Game Manager Adds Steam Deck Support, EA Origin and Ubisoft Connect Integration | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:19 | |
| matey | wow, okay i havent seen the footage and i dont care-- but from a comedy / feud perspective, what chris rock said backstage after the slap is priceless | Apr 02 02:21 |
| matey | "thats the only time you get hit by muhammed ali and it doesnt leave a scratch" | Apr 02 02:21 |
| matey | i havent paid attention to chris rock in years, but hes still got it. | Apr 02 02:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 02 02:22 |
| matey | and because he used an open hand, someone said "paper beats rock" | Apr 02 02:25 |
| matey | /me giggles | Apr 02 02:25 |
| matey | i dont think anyones going to top that | Apr 02 02:27 |
| techrights-news | Kitty Terminal Emulator: #HowTo Install, Configure, and Use It • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163250 activelow will love it. Terminal that needs a GPU!! | Apr 02 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kitty Terminal Emulator: How to Install, Configure, and Use It | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:29 | |
| techrights-news | xkcd: Instructions ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2601/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | Apr 02 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Instructions | Apr 02 02:29 | |
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| techrights-news | Apple "attacker could exploit one of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected device. These vulnerabilities have been detected in exploits in the wild." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/01/apple-releases-security-updates-0 | Apr 02 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Apple Releases Security Updates | CISA | Apr 02 02:30 | |
| techrights-news | "The answer raises more questions about the potential impacts on other species and ecosystems, according to a news release from Stanford News Service issued early Monday." https://www.hmbreview.com/news/squid-migrates-due-to-climate-change/article_46a83e3a-9fce-11ec-9190-df9c9b136027.html | Apr 02 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Squid migrates due to climate change | Local News Stories | hmbreview.com | Apr 02 02:31 | |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Deepin 20.5." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EeexYCaS7B4 | Apr 02 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Deepin 20.5 Run Through - Invidious | Apr 02 02:33 | |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Ubuntu 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CZ555kHBNJ0 | Apr 02 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Apr 02 02:34 | |
| activelow | it is pure nonsense, a terminal emulator doesn't need OpenGL to be fast and efficient | Apr 02 02:36 |
| activelow | it needs a fast framebuffer | Apr 02 02:37 |
| activelow | and it isn't GPU, it is the opengl acceleration to reject | Apr 02 02:37 |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-010422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-010422.txt | Apr 02 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 01, 2022 | Apr 02 02:38 | |
| MinceR | how is it going to trigger gpu driver bugs and freeze the whole system without using opengl, though? | Apr 02 02:38 |
| techrights-news | How to install Haiku OS https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-haiku/ | Apr 02 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixcop.com | How to install Haiku OS - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials | Apr 02 02:38 | |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techrights irc ■ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-010422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-010422.txt | Apr 02 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 01, 2022 | Apr 02 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 boycottnovell irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-010422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-010422.txt | Apr 02 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 01, 2022 | Apr 02 02:40 | |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techbytes irc ■ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-010422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-010422.txt | Apr 02 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 01, 2022 | Apr 02 02:41 | |
| techrights-news | LKML: Namjae Jeon: [GIT PULL] exfat update for 5.18-rc1 ⚓ https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/1/403 Linux kernel getting stuffed with Microsoft crap. Those who oppose have been silenced. | Apr 02 02:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: lkml.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/1/403 | Apr 02 02:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Namjae Jeon: [GIT PULL] exfat update for 5.18-rc1 | Apr 02 02:41 | |
| techrights-news | Screencasts of Ubuntu 22.04 Beta and Deepin 20.5 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163251 | Apr 02 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Screencasts of Ubuntu 22.04 Beta and Deepin 20.5 | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:41 | |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] Second batch of KVM changes for Linux 5.18 - Paolo Bonzini ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220401153256.103938-1-pbonzini@redhat.com/ ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Apr 02 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Second batch of KVM changes for Linux 5.18 - Paolo Bonzini | Apr 02 02:42 | |
| techrights-news | What Is Fedora Linux? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163252 | Apr 02 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Fedora Linux? | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:42 | |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-01.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-01.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Apr 02 02:44 |
| techrights-news | "What do Windows user think about Linux and other Linux-related topics, such as the terminal, tiling window managers and the GNU project? Let's ask a few average windows users." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xkwxOUwbB0s | Apr 02 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | What Do Windows User Think About Linux? Let's Ask Them! - Invidious | Apr 02 02:50 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft crime. "Wow… that’s a lot of bribery and sloppy behavior. Almost surprising it slipped through, at such a scale it’s a matter of time before it gets noticed." Sloppy? Where are the prosecutions and arrests???? https://ervin.ipsquad.net/blog/2022/04/01/web-review-week-2022-13/ | Apr 02 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ervin.ipsquad.net | Web Review, Week 2022-13 - ervin | Apr 02 02:52 | |
| techrights-news | They probably demand you open a Microsoft account to participate (also, you cannot criticise Microsoft for its crimes; Rust policy) https://www.zdnet.com/article/rust-foundation-opens-up-rust-community-grants-program/ | Apr 02 02:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust Foundation launches Rust Community Grants program | ZDNet | Apr 02 02:53 | |
| techrights-news | "This is our bi-weekly departure into the world of amateur radio contests, Free software conventions, special events, listener challenges, hedonism and just plain fun." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/04/lhs-episode-461-the-weekender-lxxxix-2/ | Apr 02 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #461: The Weekender LXXXIX | Linux in the Ham Shack | Apr 02 02:56 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163253 | Apr 02 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:56 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▆▆▆▂▅▆▇█▇▅▆▆▆▇▇▃▄▅▇▆▅▅▆▇▆▄▅▂▅▇▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 35.01 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▃█▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 19.21▕ swarm size (avg): 330.20 ⟲ | Apr 02 02:59 |
| techrights-news | "The team worked on this version for over a year and introduced the new platform as a tech preview after CodeReady Workspaces 2.10. The official name of this release is Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces 3.0." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/01/codeready-workspaces-scales-now-red-hat-openshift-dev-spaces | Apr 02 02:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | CodeReady Workspaces scales up, is now Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces | Red Hat Developer | Apr 02 02:59 | |
| techrights-news | "It’s no joke: here’s your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and what’s coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-13/ | Apr 02 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-13 – Fedora Community Blog | Apr 02 03:01 | |
| techrights-news | Nibble Stew: The C++ best practices game jam sample project Meson conversion ⚓ https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-c-best-practices-game-jam-sample.html ䷉ Source: nibblestew | Apr 02 03:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: The C++ best practices game jam sample project Meson conversion | Apr 02 03:03 | |
| techrights-news | "Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from March 25 to April 01." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/04/twig-37/ | Apr 02 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thisweek.gnome.org | #37 Absolutely Serious · This Week in GNOME | Apr 02 03:04 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 48950 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 39987 • Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 22 days ago | Apr 02 03:05 |
| techrights-news | Life off social media, six months in - Silvia Maggi ⚓ https://silviamaggidesign.com/personal/life-off-social-media/ ䷉ Source: silviamaggi "I tell you what happened when I quit social media six months ago, and why I don't want to come back." | Apr 02 03:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-silviamaggidesign.com | Life off social media, six months in - Silvia Maggi | Apr 02 03:05 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 20 GB • TotalOut: 4.3 GB | Apr 02 03:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Apr 02 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | Qmc3h1ndVkwPrqkr5MwUe6DdA5S7dDpBHt61UHELCc9ewf | Apr 02 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Apr 02 03:08 |
| techrights-news | "I guess this makes me wonder—can mockery culture have empathy, too? Today in Tedium, inspired by this saga, I want to consider the ethics of badness." https://tedium.co/2022/04/01/razzies-bruce-willis-trash-culture-empathy/ | Apr 02 03:23 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: tedium.co | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/01/razzies-bruce-willis-trash-culture-empathy/ | Apr 02 03:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Bruce Willis and The Razzies: The Case for Empathy in Trash Culture | Apr 02 03:24 | |
| techrights-news | The CNX Software Web site has been down for a very long time | Apr 02 03:25 |
| techrights-news | "Here, in this post, we are listing our open-source collection of password managers, for different platforms." https://medevel.com/46-os-password-managers/ | Apr 02 03:27 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/46-os-password-managers/ | Apr 02 03:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 46 Open-source Free Password managers for Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS, and Android | Apr 02 03:27 | |
| techrights-news | "IceCat the GNU web browser finally updated to the latest Firefox ESR version" https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-news-2022-03/ | Apr 02 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Sparky news 2022/03 – SparkyLinux | Apr 02 03:28 | |
| techrights-news | "I try to log into my devbox. SSH is taking a while. Hmm. That's weird. Is my network up? Yes. Can I ping the WireGuard address? No. Can I ping the host directly? Nope. Hmm. Maybe it crashed. I walk to the machine and press the reset button." gemini://shit.cx/tech/devenv/2022-04-01-a-serial-console/ | Apr 02 03:30 |
| schestowitz | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D190.jpg | Apr 02 03:31 |
| schestowitz | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D548.jpg | Apr 02 03:31 |
| techrights-news | Tools as Superpowers gemini://tilde.team/~steve/blog/powers.gmi | Apr 02 03:34 |
| techrights-news | Sleeping with even a little bit of light isn't good for your health, study shows gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/npr/current/1.gmi | Apr 02 03:36 |
| techrights-news | Sacha Chua on What’s New in Emacs | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ | Apr 02 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sacha Chua on What’s New in Emacs | Techrights | Apr 02 03:43 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▆▃▂▆▆▄▁▃▅▁▃▃▄▁▃▇▅█▄▅▁▃▄▅▁▂▅▁▆▇▁ avg(k/sec) 28.51 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁█▄▂▂▁█▁▁▁█▁▁▁▁▂▃▂▂▁▆▁▁██▃▄█▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 60.35▕ swarm size (avg): 320.08 ⟲ | Apr 02 03:59 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, April 01, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 02 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Apr 02 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 02 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 02 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163254 | Apr 02 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 04:28 | |
| techrights-news | Giving phone numbers and more data to spies ("social" control media) https://www.maketecheasier.com/set-up-two-factor-authentication-social-networks/ | Apr 02 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Set Up Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) on Various Social Networks - Make Tech Easier | Apr 02 04:28 | |
| techrights-news | Can you trust _THE US_ with your face? https://betanews.com/2022/04/01/facial-recognition-deepin-linux-china/ | Apr 02 04:29 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: betanews.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betanews.com/2022/04/01/facial-recognition-deepin-linux-china/ | Apr 02 04:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Facial recognition comes to deepin Linux -- can you trust China with your face? | Apr 02 04:29 | |
| techrights-news | Lutris 0.5.10 released but outsourced to proprietary software controlled by criminals (Microsoft) | Apr 02 04:32 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu 20.04 LTS top https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam | Apr 02 04:35 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: steampowered.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam | Apr 02 04:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-store.steampowered.com | Steam Hardware & Software Survey | Apr 02 04:35 | |
| techrights-news | Arcan: The Day of a new Command-Line Interface: Shell • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163255 | Apr 02 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arcan: The Day of a new Command-Line Interface: Shell | Tux Machines | Apr 02 04:37 | |
| techrights-news | Is There an Alternative to iOS and Android Smartphones? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163256 | Apr 02 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is There an Alternative to iOS and Android Smartphones? | Tux Machines | Apr 02 04:38 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▂▁▆▃▄▁▃▁▇█▅▁▅▆▇▆▂█▂▂▆▆▇▁▇▆▂▅█▁▂▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 51.26 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▅▂██▂▁▅▂█▁▂▅▆▂▂▃▂▂▁▂▃▁▅▁▂▂▃██▂█▁▁▇▁▁ avg(k/sec) 87.41▕ swarm size (avg): 283.68 ⟲ | Apr 02 04:59 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Apr 02 05:24 | |
| techrights-news | This talk was uploaded four days ago. “Ángel is a software engineer from northern Spain and recent graduate” http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/social-control-media-talk/ | Apr 02 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ángel García Menéndez on Social Control Media | Techrights | Apr 02 05:31 | |
| techrights-news | Sacha Chua on What’s New in Emacs • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ This talk was uploaded as a separate video file just eight hours ago | Apr 02 05:31 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163257 | Apr 02 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 02 05:33 | |
| techrights-news | Stupid buzzwords and garbage https://www.techmarketview.com/ukhotviews/archive/2022/03/31/eleco-continues-to-build-its-saas-foundation | Apr 02 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eleco continues to build its SaaS foundation | TechMarketView | Apr 02 05:36 | |
| techrights-news | "This week, a company I never think about scooped up another one I had forgotten existed. It was a reminder that we shouldn’t underestimate the boring." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/technology/hugs-to-boring.html | Apr 02 05:37 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/technology/hugs-to-boring.html | Apr 02 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Hugs to Boring - The New York Times | Apr 02 05:37 | |
| techrights-news | "Amazon warehouse workers in New York City voted in favor of joining a trade union on Friday, marking the first-ever successful union campaign against the tech giant in its history." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/amazon_warehouse_union/ | Apr 02 05:38 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/amazon_warehouse_union/ | Apr 02 05:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amazon warehouse workers in New York in unionization victory • The Register | Apr 02 05:38 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163258 | Apr 02 05:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 02 05:41 | |
| techrights-news | Live - We're Being Herded Technologically, need to Resist, Q&A https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4ZFqrCD6SBk | Apr 02 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Live - We're Being Herded Technologically, need to Resist, Q&A - Invidious | Apr 02 05:49 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▆▄▁▅██▆▄▃▆▇▁▄▁▂▁▃▃▆▃▂▅▂▅▅▂▃▆▁▇▅▁ avg(k/sec) 62.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▁▆▁▂▁▁▂▃▃▁▂▁▁█▁█▁▂▁▁▁█▁▂▁▂▃▂██▁▁ avg(k/sec) 68.95▕ swarm size (avg): 248.70 ⟲ | Apr 02 05:59 |
| techrights-news | 40,000 Pages in Gemini | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/40000-pages-in-gemini/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/40000-pages-in-gemini/ | Apr 02 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 40,000 Pages in Gemini | Techrights | Apr 02 06:01 | |
| techrights-news | "The new company, which will be headquartered in Riyadh, will be owned 50% by the PIF and 50% by stc." https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/04/02/hungarys-opposition-struggles-to-beat-viktor-orbans-stealth-autocracy | Apr 02 06:09 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: economist.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/04/02/hungarys-opposition-struggles-to-beat-viktor-orbans-stealth-autocracy | Apr 02 06:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hungary’s opposition struggles to beat Viktor Orban’s stealth autocracy | The Economist | Apr 02 06:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Qualcomm, MediaTek, Apple, Samsung LSI, and Unisoc took the top-five revenue share spots in the smartphone AP market in 2021" https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4493341 | Apr 02 06:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Taiwan’s MediaTek overtook Qualcomm in smartphone AP market in 2021 | Taiwan News | 2022-04-01 13:08:00 | Apr 02 06:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Ukraine’s Office of Foreign Affairs says that more than 100 of the Fortune 500 outsource to the country" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3655933/ukrainian-it-industry-says-it-s-still-open-for-business.html | Apr 02 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ukrainian IT industry says it’s still open for business | Computerworld | Apr 02 06:11 | |
| techrights-news | "The three Republicans were Reps. Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Brian Mast (Fla.) and Tom McClintock (Calif.)" https://thehill.com/news/house/3256567-just-three-gop-lawmakers-back-marijuana-legalization-vote-two-dems-vote-no/ | Apr 02 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Just three GOP lawmakers back marijuana legalization vote; two Dems vote ‘no’ | The Hill | Apr 02 06:12 | |
| techrights-news | "The tricky part is defining when any corporate entity actually “knows” something has happened" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3655691/when-should-the-data-breach-clock-start.html | Apr 02 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When should the data breach clock start? | Computerworld | Apr 02 06:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Ukraine’s security service said the Chinese government attempted to [break into] more than 600 websites belonging to the government" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3256792-ukraine-intelligence-accuses-china-of-hacking-days-before-invasion-report/ | Apr 02 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Ukraine intelligence accuses China of hacking days before invasion: report | The Hill | Apr 02 06:15 | |
| techrights-news | "China staged a huge cyberattack on Ukraine’s military and nuclear facilities in the build-up to Russia’s invasion" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-cyberattack-ukraine-z9gfkbmgf | Apr 02 06:15 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thetimes.co.uk | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-cyberattack-ukraine-z9gfkbmgf | Apr 02 06:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | China accused of hacking Ukraine days before Russian invasion | News | The Times | Apr 02 06:15 | |
| techrights-news | "FOSSEPS stands for Free software Solutions for European Public Services" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/digital-skills-public-sector/solution/interoperable-europe-academy/news/interoperability-key-enabler-e-government | Apr 02 06:19 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: europa.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/digital-skills-public-sector/solution/interoperable-europe-academy/news/interoperability-key-enabler-e-government | Apr 02 06:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Interoperability: a key enabler of e-government | Joinup | Apr 02 06:19 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-LTS-Beta | Apr 02 06:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released With Many Improvements - Phoronix | Apr 02 06:19 | |
| techrights-news | "New Zealand's tech start-up community has done very nicely over the last decade or so developing software and applications that solve problems" https://techblog.nz/2830-Griffin-on-Tech-The-EUs-plan-to-bring-Big-Tech-into-line | Apr 02 06:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techblog.nz | Griffin on Tech: The EU's plan to bring Big Tech into line | ITP Techblog | Apr 02 06:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Canonical is shipping another FrankenGNOME. | Apr 02 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | Really, how hard is it to make sure your distribution is using one version of GNOME? | Apr 02 06:20 |
| techrights-news | “fake news and false allegations” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/war-rages-neighboring-ukraine-hungarys-hardline-leader-benefits-closen-rcna22289 | Apr 02 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Hungarian leader with close ties to Putin toes the line on the war ahead of election | Apr 02 06:20 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I was talking to mom about the Amazon union in NYC. | Apr 02 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | I said people working at Amazon face such horrific working conditions and such awful employment prospects that they figured they had nothing to lose. | Apr 02 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon is the coal mining company of the 21st century. | Apr 02 06:21 |
| techrights-news | "The Batman had been granted an official release date in China of March 18" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/china-box-office-1235121616/ | Apr 02 06:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Do Hollywood Films Need to Rethink China Box Office Strategy? – The Hollywood Reporter | Apr 02 06:21 | |
| DaemonFC | The Batman wasn't a great movie. | Apr 02 06:22 |
| techrights-news | "The unexpected victory seems to have sent a welcome shock through the labor movement" https://www.teenvogue.com/story/amazon-labor-union-win-vote-staten-island | Apr 02 06:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teenvogue.com | Amazon Labor Union in Staten Island Wins Unionization Vote | Teen Vogue | Apr 02 06:22 | |
| DaemonFC | The movies that took themselves less seriously were pretty good. The Christian Bale series was good. | Apr 02 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | Joker was good. | Apr 02 06:22 |
| techrights-news | The Bezos SweatshopZone "spent $4.3 million over the past year trying to snuff out pro-labor sentiment" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/amazon-facility-staten-island-unionizes-1331286/ | Apr 02 06:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Amazon Employees Vote to Unionize in Staten Island - Rolling Stone | Apr 02 06:23 | |
| techrights-news | "About 57% of the more than 8,300 [SweatshopZone] workers on the voter list cast their ballots." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/amazon-workers-nyc-vote-unionize-company-83812661 | Apr 02 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Amazon workers in NYC vote to unionize, a first for company - ABC News | Apr 02 06:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Workers at an [SweatshopZone] warehouse in New York City have voted to unionize, an historic first for workers at the [Sweatshop] company." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/1/23004524/amazon-workers-vote-union-jfk8-staten-island-new-york-warehouse-win | Apr 02 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon workers vote to unionize Staten Island warehouse - The Verge | Apr 02 06:25 | |
| techrights-news | "The [outfit] highlighted that approximately 93 percent of the world’s television households, 61 percent of TV [brainwash] sales and 60 percent of total [brainwash] sales are outside of the United States" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/roku-stock-target-analyst-international-growth-1235123441/ | Apr 02 06:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Roku Stock Target Raised by Analyst on International Growth – The Hollywood Reporter | Apr 02 06:26 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is just crime and corruption. All the rest is spin and corrupted (bribed) "media". https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/cloud-computing/microsofts-cloud-business-targeted-by-eu-antitrust-regulators/90603282 | Apr 02 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft: Microsoft's cloud business targeted by EU antitrust regulators, CIO News, ET CIO | Apr 02 06:27 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft has managed to eleverate Bribes & Corruption to principal "business" unit | Apr 02 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/04/01/end-covid-19-emergency-could-jeopardize-medicaid-millions-us/7190506001/ | Apr 02 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | End to COVID-19 emergency could jeopardize Medicaid for millions in US | Apr 02 06:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Millions of people lose their health insurance while the military gets another 11% increase. | Apr 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | says a lot | Apr 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | hey | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the poor can join the army | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'free' health | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you die | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | catch the next plane to ukraine | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | go die for Wall Street | Apr 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [06:21] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I was talking to mom about the Amazon union in NYC. | Apr 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I recently began calling it SweatshopZone | Apr 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it treats workers so poorly on both side of the pacific | Apr 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | or atlantic for europe | Apr 02 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | The president of the new union thanked Jeff Bezos. He said while Bezos was busy pretending to be an astronaut, "we were down here setting up a labor union". | Apr 02 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the only reason it still employes human beings is that the machines are not advanced enough and they can get away with treating people like disposable trash | Apr 02 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: tongue in cheek | Apr 02 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yes. | Apr 02 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also need to do diplomacy | Apr 02 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a union | Apr 02 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | The Teamsters has pledged a lot of money to unionize Amazon warehouses. | Apr 02 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully, they can reverse the severe decline in union membership. If they can get better deals for Amazon workers, it puts upwards pressure on wages at places like Walmart, Sam's Club, Best Buy.... | Apr 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, exactly | Apr 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like those no-poaching collusion | Apr 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw NO executive prosecuted for these | Apr 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're designed o oLOWER salaries | Apr 02 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | From what I understand, things can't get much worse at Amazon. They really can't. One of Mandy's co-workers at Walmart quit because she thought Amazon would pay more. She quit a job at Walmart with healthcare, retirement account, lots of stuff. Went to Amazon. | Apr 02 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | *to so much for 'free market' | Apr 02 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Was back at Walmart in 3 months, starting wage, no benefits, no vacation time, no nothing. | Apr 02 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | It takes years of employment at Walmart to rack up vacation and sick time at a respectable rate. | Apr 02 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | amazon does recruitment ads in radio here | Apr 02 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | this must mean they lost many workers | Apr 02 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | You have to be there for two years at Walmart before you get as much vacation and sick hours as everyone should get anyway. | Apr 02 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's disgusting. | Apr 02 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Because they have 40% turnover. | Apr 02 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | They know few people make it two years and if you do, it's because you're very productive and they chose to let you do it. | Apr 02 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's why. | Apr 02 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | They have it set up so that people who don't last very long don't cost the company much to fizzle out and leave or get shown the door. | Apr 02 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | On April 13th, I think it is, Mandy starts earning vacation and sick pay twice as fast as he does now. | Apr 02 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | It doubles each year for the first two years. | Apr 02 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | It accumulates a little faster each year thereafter, but mostly in the first two years. | Apr 02 06:41 |
| techrights-news | Finland's Spy Service Warns of Russian Interference, Attacks - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/03/30/1413258 ䷉ Source: soylentnews | Apr 02 06:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Finland's Spy Service Warns of Russian Interference, Attacks - SoylentNews | Apr 02 06:41 | |
| DaemonFC | But the first two years kind of suck. | Apr 02 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | They give you just enough to take 1-2 fishing days and get the flu. | Apr 02 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | And that's about it. | Apr 02 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | People aren't meant to live like this. | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | hey, you should ask RMS: | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's better | Apr 02 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | People NEED a couple weeks of vacation each year and probably 10 sick days is fair I guess. | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | working in SweatshopZone warehouse | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or writing proprietary software? | Apr 02 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | They used to have that or more, when the big employer was GM. | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never took sick live where I work | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | 11+ years | Apr 02 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again I work from home | Apr 02 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | People in the 1950s had a one income household, middle class, and took vacations that lasted nearly a month. | Apr 02 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | Today, your boss goes out to find and shame you if you want to go to a state park for a few days over the summer. | Apr 02 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's pathetic. | Apr 02 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | In the 1950s, you had a house, acres of land, and your car was a "land barge". | Apr 02 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | Today, gas and cars cost a fortune, the cars break down all the time, mechanics for them can be $400 an hour. | Apr 02 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | And you live in a tiny apartment. | Apr 02 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, There was an episode of Sliders, right? | Apr 02 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | They get to a world inspired by Thomas Malthus to keep the population low. | Apr 02 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | They slide in and can't believe how clean everything is in LA, and how there's no crime, everyone's really nice, it's spread out, there's no urban decay, and food is cheap. | Apr 02 06:47 |
| DaemonFC | The problem isn't just automation. It's that people won't stop fucking and reproducing and increasing the number that NEEEEEEED a job, but there is no job. | Apr 02 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | Who NEED food, and we can barely feed half the people in the world already. | Apr 02 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | We're fouling up the planet. Half the surface water in the US now is unsafe to drink or two swim in, and if you catch fish in it, don't eat them. | Apr 02 06:49 |
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| DaemonFC | So, if we had controlled the population, things would be better now. | Apr 02 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | Having people you can't take care of is not good. | Apr 02 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | Putin has no need to make sure that the teenagers he's taking for the army come back alive. | Apr 02 06:52 |
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| techrights-news | Twitter https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10675771/NUS-chief-Muslim-Brotherhoods-death-sake-Allah-exalted-wish-Twitter.html | Apr 02 07:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | NUS chief had Muslim Brotherhood's 'death for the sake of Allah is our most exalted wish' on Twitter | Daily Mail Online | Apr 02 07:01 | |
| techrights-news | BBC Two - House of Maxwell ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b64j3y ䷉ Source: billbc won't even mention its master Bill Gates, for sure... shifting attention, Beeb. For Bill... http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ | Apr 02 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | BBC Two - House of Maxwell | Apr 02 07:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights | Apr 02 07:02 | |
| techrights-news | cbs won't mention bill gates either https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-retrial-judge-rejects-juror-bias/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ | Apr 02 07:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Ghislaine Maxwell will not get a new trial after judge finds juror was not biased - CBS News | Apr 02 07:04 | |
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| techrights-news | Prince Andrew repays cash amid financial dispute - BBC News ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60961791 ䷉ Source: billbc continues to dance around bill gates (who bribed BBC), never even mentioned his strong connections to this http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ | Apr 02 07:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Prince Andrew repays cash amid financial dispute - BBC News | Apr 02 07:09 | |
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| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163259 | Apr 02 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software and Monopolies • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163260 | Apr 02 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Monopolies | Tux Machines | Apr 02 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163261 | Apr 02 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | Lutris Game Manager released with Steam Deck Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163262 | Apr 02 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lutris Game Manager released with Steam Deck Support | Tux Machines | Apr 02 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | ⚓ CNX Software | ♾ Gemini address: CNX Software | Apr 02 07:26 |
| techrights-news | Links 02/04/2022: CNX Software Offline for a Day | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/links-02042022-cnx-software-offline-for-a-day/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/links-02042022-cnx-software-offline-for-a-day/ | Apr 02 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 02/04/2022: CNX Software Offline for a Day | Techrights | Apr 02 07:27 | |
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| techrights-news | "Although oppositions are not evenly distributed over all technical areas, some seeing hardly any, but if one extrapolates the 5% of opposed patents to the rest of the granted patents, the number of patents in force which are not really valid must be extremely high." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/ | Apr 02 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | SUEPO: Industrial actions ‘striking success’ - Kluwer Patent Blog | Apr 02 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | "In this respect, what will be happening at the UPC, which is primarily conceived for the big industry, is symptomatic. Why is it that the basic fee for an action in nullity is nearly double of that for infringement? This is not a coincidence." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/ | Apr 02 08:08 |
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| techrights-news | "Question: given that ILO AT judgement no. 4430 declared Circular 347 unlawful, and set it aside, what was the legal basis for the EPO’s “strike registration tool”? More pertinently, why would EPO management persist with providing a tool that had no formal legal standing?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/ | Apr 02 08:09 |
| techrights-news | "Thus, could it possibly be that, by providing a registration tool, and by (deliberately?) making that tool unreliable, the management were trying to make staff think twice about going on strike? If so, that would demonstrate a complete contempt for both the ILO AT’s rulings and fundamental rights" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/ | Apr 02 08:10 |
| techrights-news | "Just because Richard Stallman seems to have been left out of this year’s LibrePlanet, the Free Software Foundation’s annual “free software” lovefest" https://fossforce.com/2022/04/richard-stallman-to-deliver-state-of-free-software-online-on-april-13/ | Apr 02 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Stallman to Deliver 'State of Free Software' Online April 13 - FOSS Force | Apr 02 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | "first streaming release to receive the prestigious prize" https://torrentfreak.com/coda-piracy-skyrockets-after-best-picture-oscar-win-220401/ | Apr 02 08:16 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/coda-piracy-skyrockets-after-best-picture-oscar-win-220401/ | Apr 02 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"CODA" Piracy Skyrockets After Best Picture Oscar Win * TorrentFreak | Apr 02 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Strike 3, the most prolific 'copyright troll' in the United States, is suing an individual said to have pirated its movies using BitTorrent." https://torrentfreak.com/prolific-copyright-troll-seeks-bittorrent-piracy-evidence-from-netflix-220401/ | Apr 02 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prolific 'Copyright Troll' Seeks BitTorrent Piracy Evidence From.....Netflix? * TorrentFreak | Apr 02 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | In Austria the Government Pays to Repair Your Stuff https://therevelator.org/austria-repair-bonus/ | Apr 02 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therevelator.org | In Austria the Government Pays to Repair Your Stuff • The Revelator | Apr 02 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | WTH is going on at creativecommons? https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/01/congratulations-and-farewell/ | Apr 02 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Congratulations and Farewell - Creative Commons | Apr 02 08:18 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | matey (away): walsh in charge | Apr 02 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "First, CC is excited to announce that longtime CC staffer, Kat Walsh, has been promoted to CC General Counsel. Kat was on the CC legal team from 2012-2015 during the drafting and initial publication process of version 4.0 of the license suite. She returned to CC in 2021 as Deputy General Counsel. Kat has a nearly 20-year history in the free and open culture movements, including many years on the boards of the Wikimedia Foundation and the | Apr 02 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | Free Software Foundation, and has previously worked in library policy, technology startups, and online community management. She is an advocate for free access to knowledge and for CC licensing as part of the infrastructure for an internet that belongs to everyone. As General Counsel, she oversees the legal support for all aspects of CC’s activities, provides strategic input, leads the stewardship of CC’s legal tools, and advises the | Apr 02 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | organization on new programmatic initiatives." | Apr 02 08:21 |
| techrights-news | This week in KDE: Get ready for a big one! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163263 | Apr 02 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Get ready for a big one! | Tux Machines | Apr 02 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | The SweatshopZone rebels https://truthout.org/articles/new-york-amazon-workers-vote-to-form-union-in-historic-first/ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/pro-union-vote-leads-new-york-amazon-workers-look-make-history | Apr 02 08:30 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/new-york-amazon-workers-vote-to-form-union-in-historic-first/ | Apr 02 08:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | New York Amazon Workers Vote to Form Union in Historic First | Apr 02 08:30 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/pro-union-vote-leads-new-york-amazon-workers-look-make-history | Apr 02 08:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Pro-Union Vote Leads in New York as Amazon Workers Look to Make History | Apr 02 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Software – March 2022 Updates • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163264 | Apr 02 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Software – March 2022 Updates | Tux Machines | Apr 02 08:30 | |
| *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | "in a meeting Jeff Bezos attended, said of the activist Chris Smalls, whom the company had just fired after he helped lead a walkout early in the pandemic over Covid-related health and safety issues." https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/amazon-workers-union-staten-island/ | Apr 02 08:31 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/amazon-workers-union-staten-island/ | Apr 02 08:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Amazon Workers Score a Decisive Win in Staten Island! | The Nation | Apr 02 08:31 | |
| AdmFubar1 | anyone havving connections issues to sites? | Apr 02 08:32 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft does the same thing at a bigger scale https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/amazon-google-busted-faking-small-business-opposition-to-antitrust-reform/ | Apr 02 08:32 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/amazon-google-busted-faking-small-business-opposition-to-antitrust-reform/ | Apr 02 08:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon, Google Busted Faking Small Business Opposition To Antitrust Reform | Techdirt | Apr 02 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Progressives hailed Friday's unionization vote by employees at an Amazon warehouse in New York City as a historic victory for workers across the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/win-workers-across-america-amazon-union-victory-inspires-progressives | Apr 02 08:33 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/win-workers-across-america-amazon-union-victory-inspires-progressives | Apr 02 08:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Win for Workers Across America': Amazon Union Victory Inspires Progressives | Apr 02 08:33 | |
| techrights-news | The 'democrats' keep failing the working class https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/disgusting-democratic-aligned-firm-slammed-working-amazons-failed-anti-union-effort | Apr 02 08:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/disgusting-democratic-aligned-firm-slammed-working-amazons-failed-anti-union-effort | Apr 02 08:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Disgusting': Democratic-Aligned Firm Slammed for Working on Amazon's Failed Anti-Union Effort | Apr 02 08:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Amazon warehouse workers in Staten Island, New York won their election Friday to form the retail giant's first-ever union in the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/david-beats-goliath-workers-new-york-vote-form-amazons-first-ever-union-us | Apr 02 08:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/david-beats-goliath-workers-new-york-vote-form-amazons-first-ever-union-us | Apr 02 08:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'David Beats Goliath': Workers in New York Vote to Form Amazon's First-Ever Union in US | Apr 02 08:34 | |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.windowscentral.com/us-senators-call-out-lack-accountability-bobby-kotick-microsoft-deal | Apr 02 08:47 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/us-senators-call-out-lack-accountability-bobby-kotick-microsoft-deal | Apr 02 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | US senators call out lack of accountability for Bobby Kotick in Microsoft deal [Update] | Windows Central | Apr 02 08:47 | |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.windowscentral.com/activision-blizzard-employees-walkout-over-lifting-vaccine-mandates | Apr 02 08:47 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/activision-blizzard-employees-walkout-over-lifting-vaccine-mandates | Apr 02 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Activision Blizzard employees plan new walkout over lifting vaccine mandates [Update] | Windows Central | Apr 02 08:47 | |
| AdmFubar1 | and why are they doing this??? (cause they are desperate!) https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-doubles-down-its-android-and-windows-efforts-latest-reorg | Apr 02 08:48 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-doubles-down-its-android-and-windows-efforts-latest-reorg | Apr 02 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft doubles down on its Android + Windows efforts in latest reorg | Windows Central | Apr 02 08:48 | |
| AdmFubar1 | and I bet you thought crypto mining was a waste...https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-acquires-minit-help-businesses-improve-efficiency-through-process-mining | Apr 02 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft acquires Minit to help businesses improve efficiency through process mining | Windows Central | Apr 02 08:49 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▂▂▃▄▂█▅▄▅▄▅▄▄▅▅▆▅▅▄▄▅▆▇█▅▄▅▆▅▇▆▄▄▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 45.43 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▃▄▆▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▃▂▁▂▁▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 35.70▕ swarm size (avg): 283.35 ⟲ | Apr 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar1: those idiots were led to think other people put them at risk | Apr 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | those current vaccines do not curb the spread | Apr 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they try to impose things on colleagues | Apr 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | not because they care about those colleagues | Apr 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but because pfizer told them lies about the jabs preventing the spread | Apr 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see people are still reluctant to abandon that lie | Apr 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | if people catch it and die | Apr 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's their problem | Apr 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are just jealous | Apr 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | that they got unwell | Apr 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and colleagues didn't | Apr 02 09:02 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163265 | Apr 02 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 09:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, good to see warren opposingf the takeover | Apr 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was worried she was ignoring Microsoft | Apr 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | partly because she had hired a Microsofter or two | Apr 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but seems she's still aware | Apr 02 09:04 |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@kyegrsenzjq9a.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 09:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | for the wrong reasons though | Apr 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | something about worker protectionds | Apr 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than Microsoft being a bunch of criminals | Apr 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | an issue she never speaks about | Apr 02 09:04 |
| bnchs | are they really walking out because a single rule being lifted? | Apr 02 09:06 |
| bnchs | surely you would do the opposite | Apr 02 09:06 |
| bnchs | no they like rules | Apr 02 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should work from home | Apr 02 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | better for the planet | Apr 02 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they should not work for Microsoft, rither | Apr 02 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *either | Apr 02 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft= crime | Apr 02 09:07 |
| AdmFubar1 | I need to go to bed... nights all | Apr 02 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | working for Microsoft=advancing crime | Apr 02 09:07 |
| activelow | gn | Apr 02 09:07 |
| bnchs | they literally protest against the removal of the vaccine mandate | Apr 02 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar1: 0/ | Apr 02 09:07 |
| bnchs | its like this shit has dug deep into their heads | Apr 02 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they don't want to get infected, they should work from home | Apr 02 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | compelling colleagues to do things won't protect them | Apr 02 09:08 |
| bnchs | well yeah but | Apr 02 09:08 |
| bnchs | you want everyone to take the magic serum | Apr 02 09:08 |
| bnchs | even going against companies that try to lift the mandate | Apr 02 09:09 |
| bnchs | pfizer shills | Apr 02 09:09 |
| bnchs | if less people take the vaccine, then less profits | Apr 02 09:09 |
| activelow | april, temperatures dropped 15degC, snowfall | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | merry xmas, activelow | Apr 02 09:11 |
| activelow | the lockdown and energy sanctions had an effect to say the lest: "nuclear winter" | Apr 02 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Apr 02 09:11 |
| bnchs | anyway the microsoft/minit deal | Apr 02 09:11 |
| bnchs | are they gonna put cryptominers in windows? | Apr 02 09:12 |
| activelow | it's real, a theory, projecting if global industry collapsed for one or another reason, then tempertures decline dramatically | Apr 02 09:12 |
| activelow | as far as "climate change" was concerned, there you have it | Apr 02 09:12 |
| activelow | it isn't a long-term trend which couldn't be altered; and it was alot more than 1.5degC, closter to 15degC global heating | Apr 02 09:13 |
| techrights-news | He also paid TechDirt, which is extremely problematic ttps://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/its-time-for-charles-koch-to-testify-about-his-climate-disinformation-campaign/ | Apr 02 09:13 |
| techrights-news | Nitrux 2.1 Released with Support for Linux Kernel 5.17, Latest KDE Plasma Goodies • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163266 | Apr 02 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nitrux 2.1 Released with Support for Linux Kernel 5.17, Latest KDE Plasma Goodies | Tux Machines | Apr 02 09:13 | |
| bnchs | how well will this work with nvidia's drivers | Apr 02 09:13 |
| bnchs | as you may know, nvidia likes to "fight cryptomining" by limiting the "hashrate" (aka the power) of their GPU | Apr 02 09:14 |
| bnchs | with their PROPRIETARY drivers | Apr 02 09:14 |
| activelow | better idea: don't produce and sell such crap | Apr 02 09:14 |
| bnchs | its retarded | Apr 02 09:15 |
| activelow | the latest "innovation" from Nvidia was some 480watts GPU, $1999 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| bnchs | 1) make good powerful GPU | Apr 02 09:15 |
| bnchs | 2) you hate cryptomining | Apr 02 09:15 |
| bnchs | 3) write your driver to limit half of the power | Apr 02 09:15 |
| bnchs | or 3) detect cryptomining software and throttle power | Apr 02 09:16 |
| bnchs | this is how they do it | Apr 02 09:16 |
| activelow | it is neither mining nor crypto anyway | Apr 02 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Apr 02 09:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a cult | Apr 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "look how much worthless stuff i ran" | Apr 02 09:20 |
| *bnchs has quit (connection closed) | Apr 02 09:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "i feel rich now" | Apr 02 09:20 |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@kyegrsenzjq9a.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 09:21 | |
| techrights-news | Hete speech is "woke" now? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/violettas-scars-how-russophobia-became-the-wokest-form-of-racism/ | Apr 02 09:22 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/violettas-scars-how-russophobia-became-the-wokest-form-of-racism/ | Apr 02 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Violetta's Scars: How Russophobia Became the Wokest Form of Racism - CounterPunch.org | Apr 02 09:22 | |
| bnchs | i'm more about the driver's ability to detect if you're running X software | Apr 02 09:22 |
| bnchs | and throttle the power | Apr 02 09:22 |
| bnchs | they could extend this to anything they dont like | Apr 02 09:23 |
| techrights-news | Trasparency and Journalism https://fair.org/home/sarah-lipton-lubet-on-ginni-thomas-conflict-dave-maass-on-trasparency-and-journalism/ | Apr 02 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Sarah Lipton-Lubet on Ginni Thomas Conflict, Dave Maass on Trasparency and Journalism - FAIR | Apr 02 09:23 | |
| activelow | bnchs: the opensource nouveau drivers for nvidia were rather good, with some older nvidia cards | Apr 02 09:26 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 09:33 |
| techrights-news | Lies. The employment rates went down significantly. https://truthout.org/articles/march-employment-growth-closes-in-on-pre-pandemic-levels/ | Apr 02 09:33 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/march-employment-growth-closes-in-on-pre-pandemic-levels/ | Apr 02 09:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | March Employment Growth Closes in on Pre-Pandemic Levels | Apr 02 09:33 | |
| techrights-news | Racism is the new "woke"? https://truthout.org/articles/anti-russian-bigotry-increases-in-the-us-and-beyond-amid-putins-war-on-ukraine/ | Apr 02 09:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/anti-russian-bigotry-increases-in-the-us-and-beyond-amid-putins-war-on-ukraine/ | Apr 02 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Anti-Russian Bigotry Increases in the US and Beyond Amid Putin’s War on Ukraine | Apr 02 09:34 | |
| techrights-news | They on;y fund bombing people, not saving people https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/covid-funding-debate/ | Apr 02 09:35 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/covid-funding-debate/ | Apr 02 09:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Congress Drags Its Feet on Funding Covid Care | The Nation | Apr 02 09:35 | |
| techrights-news | The state: racism is bad, mmkay? You're only permitted to be racist towards people whom the state designates so. | Apr 02 09:37 |
| *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Apr 02 09:37 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter is a hate speech machine. It promotes hate. It profits from hate. But Twitter is "authorised" by the state, so that's allowable... | Apr 02 09:39 |
| techrights-news | They use Russia and COVID as pretext/excuse to steal even more https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/sanders-hold-hearing-how-corporate-greed-and-profiteering-are-fueling-inflation | Apr 02 09:39 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/sanders-hold-hearing-how-corporate-greed-and-profiteering-are-fueling-inflation | Apr 02 09:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders to Hold Hearing on 'How Corporate Greed and Profiteering Are Fueling Inflation' | Apr 02 09:39 | |
| techrights-news | "As prices increase, corporate profits hit a record high of nearly $3 trillion in 2021, up 25% in a single year." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/sanders-hold-hearing-how-corporate-greed-and-profiteering-are-fueling-inflation | Apr 02 09:40 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/sanders-hold-hearing-how-corporate-greed-and-profiteering-are-fueling-inflation | Apr 02 09:40 | |
| techrights-news | "I cannot see how abolishing the Constitution would be compatible with EU law.” https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/01/acting-intelligently-the-hungarian-legal-way EU constantly abolishes many constitutions. See UPC. | Apr 02 09:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: telex.hu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/01/acting-intelligently-the-hungarian-legal-way | Apr 02 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: "I cannot see how abolishing the Constitution would be compatible with EU law.” | Apr 02 09:41 | |
| techrights-news | Overpopulation crisis https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/climate-change-ukraine-food-shortage/ | Apr 02 09:44 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/climate-change-ukraine-food-shortage/ | Apr 02 09:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | You Can’t Isolate the Food Crisis From the Climate Crisis | The Nation | Apr 02 09:44 | |
| techrights-news | Fights over things like races again distract from the way oligarchs attack society https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/50-groups-decry-gop-senators-insidious-attacks-ketanji-brown-jackson | Apr 02 09:45 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/50-groups-decry-gop-senators-insidious-attacks-ketanji-brown-jackson | Apr 02 09:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 50+ Groups Decry GOP Senators' 'Insidious' Attacks on Ketanji Brown Jackson | Apr 02 09:45 | |
| techrights-news | The corporate media is guilty of hate speech; now we have a culture where racism is "social justice" https://truthout.org/articles/anti-russian-bigotry-increases-in-the-us-and-beyond-amid-putins-war-on-ukraine/ | Apr 02 09:47 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/anti-russian-bigotry-increases-in-the-us-and-beyond-amid-putins-war-on-ukraine/ | Apr 02 09:47 | |
| techrights-news | Censorship of literature https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-book-censorship-is-an-attack-on-the-minds-of-children/ | Apr 02 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Right-Wing Book Censorship Is an Attack on the Minds of Children | Apr 02 09:49 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-book-censorship-is-an-attack-on-the-minds-of-children/ | Apr 02 09:49 | |
| techrights-news | Stop using mobile 'phones' if you value your privacy https://digit.site36.net/2022/04/01/mobile-phone-as-a-tracking-bug-german-police-use-geofence-warrants-with-google-maps/ | Apr 02 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Mobile phone as a tracking bug: German police now use geofence warrants with Google Maps – Matthias Monroy | Apr 02 09:49 | |
| techrights-news | "One year ago today, the Supreme Court handed down a decision in FCC v. Prometheus Radio Project" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/fcc-inaction-on-media-consolidation-continues-on-anniversary-of-prometheus-ruling-to-run-on-april-1/ | Apr 02 09:52 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/fcc-inaction-on-media-consolidation-continues-on-anniversary-of-prometheus-ruling-to-run-on-april-1/ | Apr 02 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FCC Inaction On Media Consolidation Continues On Anniversary Of Prometheus Ruling | Techdirt | Apr 02 09:52 | |
| techrights-news | Trump blocked me in Twitter. He never ever valued free speech. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/trump-isnt-concerned-about-free-speech-just-a-free-audience/ | Apr 02 09:52 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/trump-isnt-concerned-about-free-speech-just-a-free-audience/ | Apr 02 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Isn’t Concerned About Free Speech, Just A Free Audience | Techdirt | Apr 02 09:52 | |
| techrights-news | "Authored by Senator Bob Wieckowski, S.B. 1189 requires private entities to obtain your opt-in consent before collecting your biometric information." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/california-speak-biometric-and-student-privacy | Apr 02 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | California: Speak Up For Biometric and Student Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Apr 02 09:53 | |
| techrights-news | "appearance in the Oscar broadcast did little to bolster either ratings or any connection between the movie moguls and the plain and trusting folk of the Heartland, that is, the people meant to worship the stars and pay their salaries at the box office or, increasingly, through streaming service subscriptions." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/bondage-at-the-oscars/ | Apr 02 09:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bondage at the Oscars - CounterPunch.org | Apr 02 09:54 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/bondage-at-the-oscars/ | Apr 02 09:54 | |
| techrights-news | Reject Hollywood. It's crap. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/fly-on-the-wall-the-slap/ | Apr 02 09:56 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/fly-on-the-wall-the-slap/ | Apr 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fly On The Wall: The Slap - CounterPunch.org | Apr 02 09:56 | |
| techrights-news | "Fast forward six years and there is still no serious third-party challenge to the current duopoly" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/the-corporatocracy-will-have-a-tough-choice-between-biden-and-desantis/ | Apr 02 09:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Corporatocracy Will Have a Tough Choice Between Biden and DeSantis - CounterPunch.org | Apr 02 09:59 | |
| techrights-news | "Loneliness is a symptom of our greater culture of disconnect, and toxic American individualism. And, as with many problems (like food and housing insecurity), the pandemic has exacerbated the preexisting issues of disconnect in our society." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/why-the-u-s-culture-of-colonial-extraction-is-making-people-sick-and-destroying-the-planet/ | Apr 02 10:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why the U.S. Culture of Colonial Extraction Is Making People Sick and Destroying the Planet - CounterPunch.org | Apr 02 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | Avoid GulagTube. DO NOT upload anything there. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/1/on_contact_chris_hedges_youtube_russia | Apr 02 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | “Disappeared”: Chris Hedges Responds to YouTube Deleting His 6-Year Archive of RT America Shows | Democracy Now! | Apr 02 10:05 | |
| techrights-news | UK is 'slow-cooking' journalists. Same as Saudi Barbaria, but the cooking is a lot slower. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/1/julian_assange_us_censorship_wedding_chris | Apr 02 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Chris Hedges on Jailed WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange’s Wedding: He’s “Crumbling” in London Prison | Democracy Now! | Apr 02 10:06 | |
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| techrights-news | “This is a crucial victory for the public as well as Public Resource" https://www.eff.org/press/releases/publicresourceorg-can-keep-freeing-law-court-allows-posting-public-laws-and | Apr 02 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Public.Resource.Org Can Keep Freeing the Law: Court Allows Posting Public Laws And Regulations Online | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Apr 02 10:07 | |
| techrights-news | Techrights now has 40,000 pages in Gemini; we’re serving about 500,000 pages per month in gemini:// and that number generally grows over time, so we’ve become less dependent on the World Wide Web, which undid or outlived its original purpose http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/40000-pages-in-gemini/ | Apr 02 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 40,000 Pages in Gemini | Techrights | Apr 02 10:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/new-mutant-omicron-variant-xe-could-be-most-transmissible-yet-who-says/ | Apr 02 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | New mutant omicron variant XE could be most transmissible yet, WHO says | WGN-TV | Apr 02 11:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR | time for your fourth, DaemonFC. Amndement. | Apr 02 11:11 |
| techrights-news | Lutris version 0.5.10 brings improved Steam Deck support but no Flatpak yet http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163249#comment-33265 | Apr 02 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lutris Game Manager Adds Steam Deck Support, EA Origin and Ubisoft Connect Integration | Tux Machines | Apr 02 11:16 | |
| techrights-news | 2,000 titles officially hit for Steam Deck as Verified or Playable https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2000-titles-officially-hit-for-steam-deck-as-verified-or-playable/ | Apr 02 11:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2,000 titles officially hit for Steam Deck as Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux | Apr 02 11:18 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I liked the movie "Defending Your Life". "Bob Diamond" (Rip Torn) is a defense attorney for people who have died and need to justify their existence on Earth, before moving on or not. | Apr 02 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | "Once you use more than 5% of your brain, you really don't want to be on Earth anymore." | Apr 02 11:19 |
| techrights-news | Planet SUSE. "For the past year, I’ve been posting to a private server that I was running. Now that server is offline because I need to save money and so I’ll be writing here again." https://cloudyday.tech.blog/2022/04/02/long-time-no-post/ | Apr 02 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloudyday.tech.blog | Long time no post – Yet Another Tech Blog | Apr 02 11:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Fedora Linux test days are events where anyone can help make sure changes in Fedora work well in an upcoming release. Fedora community members often participate, and the public is welcome at these events" https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-kernel-5-17-coreos-cloud-iot-and-audio-test-days/ | Apr 02 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Contribute at the Fedora Kernel 5.17, CoreOS, Cloud, IoT, and Audio test days - Fedora Magazine | Apr 02 11:22 | |
| techrights-news | It needs to delete GitHub. It's proprietary software controlled by criminals (Microsoft). https://medevel.com/calories/ | Apr 02 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Calories is a free open-source CLI calories and weight tracker | Apr 02 11:23 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/who-wants-nice-tall-glass-coca-colas-algorithmic-orange-juice/318760/ | Apr 02 11:23 |
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| XRevan86 | matey: "american is actually british english with bits of canadian, spanish and german thrown in" <- It is not. | Apr 02 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | what about french? | Apr 02 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and dutch? | Apr 02 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | italisn, irish.. | Apr 02 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | or maybe that's about language | Apr 02 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | not ethnic | Apr 02 11:44 |
| techrights-news | Where E-Mail, IRC and USENET (Even Social Control Media) Fail at Communications | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/ | Apr 02 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Where E-Mail, IRC and USENET (Even Social Control Media) Fail at Communications | Techrights | Apr 02 11:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/escaped-flamingo-from-kansas-zoo-spotted-in-texas | Apr 02 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Flamingo that escaped Kansas zoo 17 years ago spotted in Texas | Apr 02 11:53 | |
| DaemonFC | Prison break! | Apr 02 11:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | very very important news!! | Apr 02 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 150 million unemployed adults | Apr 02 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | "look, Flamingo!!" | Apr 02 12:29 |
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| matey | interesting fernhout link http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/00/12/19/101620.HTM | Apr 02 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.welchco.com | 001219 Paul Fernhout worries technology causes complexity; focuses on values. | Apr 02 13:05 | |
| matey | a bit unwieldy | Apr 02 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i don;t know him... | Apr 02 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the page says all rights reserves | Apr 02 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the video says cc | Apr 02 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | one is wrong | Apr 02 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *reserved | Apr 02 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | which rights? | Apr 02 13:06 |
| matey | the page says all rights reserves | one is wrong <- your pages say no-derivs and by-sa | Apr 02 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | publicity rights? | Apr 02 13:06 |
| matey | but as far as a.r.r. vs cc theyre not mutually exclusive (even if they should be) | Apr 02 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, my page says all rights reserved | Apr 02 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the video itself says CC | Apr 02 13:07 |
| matey | my page says all rights reserved <- since when? | Apr 02 13:07 |
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| matey | http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/ "Content is available under CC-BY-SA" | Apr 02 13:08 |
| matey | thats what your page says | Apr 02 13:08 |
| matey | by the way, i said that stavrous website needs to specify which by-sa it uses. it does-- 4.0-- on another page | Apr 02 13:08 |
| matey | but as far as a.r.r. vs cc | Apr 02 13:09 |
| matey | if you find one of lessigs books at the library (given that he founded cc) | Apr 02 13:09 |
| matey | or one of doctorows | Apr 02 13:09 |
| matey | (cory) | Apr 02 13:09 |
| matey | youll see that traditional publishers use both "all rights reserved" and cc licenses on cc-licensed books | Apr 02 13:10 |
| matey | they shouldnt imo, but it does not affect the status of the cc license | Apr 02 13:10 |
| matey | you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license. | Apr 02 13:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | [13:08] <matey> thats what your page says | Apr 02 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | aha | Apr 02 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 02 13:11 |
| matey | you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license <- otherwise, you must conclude that lessigs cc-licensed books are not cc-licensed | Apr 02 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there are three places that state licnece: site, post, and video | Apr 02 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | my videos are non-deriv | Apr 02 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw | Apr 02 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you see my remark earlier? | Apr 02 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | about walsh | Apr 02 13:12 |
| matey | about walsh? | Apr 02 13:12 |
| matey | ill check | Apr 02 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | [08:20] <schestowitz-TR> matey (away): walsh in charge | Apr 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | [08:21] <schestowitz-TR> "First, CC is excited to announce that longtime CC staffer, Kat Walsh, has been promoted to CC General Counsel. Kat was on the CC legal team from 2012-2015 during the drafting and initial publication process of version 4.0 of the license suite. She returned to CC in 2021 as Deputy General Counsel. Kat has a nearly 20-year history in the free and open culture movements, including many years on the boards of the | Apr 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | Wikimedia Foundation and the | Apr 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | [08:21] <schestowitz-TR> Free Software Foundation, and has previously worked in library policy, technology startups, and online community management. She is an advocate for free access to knowledge and for CC licensing as part of the infrastructure for an internet that belongs to everyone. As General Counsel, she oversees the legal support for all aspects of CC’s activities, provides strategic input, leads the stewardship of CC’s legal | Apr 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | tools, and advises the | Apr 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | [08:21] <schestowitz-TR> organization on new programmatic initiatives." | Apr 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/01/congratulations-and-farewell/ | Apr 02 13:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Congratulations and Farewell - Creative Commons | Apr 02 13:13 | |
| matey | First, CC is excited to announce that longtime CC staffer, Kat Walsh, has been promoted to CC General Counsel. | Apr 02 13:14 |
| matey | so basically shes to cc what eben was to fsf | Apr 02 13:14 |
| matey | cc is a defunct organisation, they stand for nothing at all | Apr 02 13:15 |
| matey | compromise first and lies second | Apr 02 13:15 |
| matey | mike linksvayer was (imo) the only person who could have saved them | Apr 02 13:15 |
| matey | i dont like him, he was nonetheless right | Apr 02 13:16 |
| matey | jesus christ, he moved to github! | Apr 02 13:17 |
| matey | Mike Linksvayer is an intellectual freedom and commons proponent, known as a technology entrepreneur, developer and activist from co-founding Bitzi and leadership of Creative Commons.[1][2] He is GitHub's Policy Director. | Apr 02 13:17 |
| matey | hes what? | Apr 02 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Apr 02 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | copilot of bill | Apr 02 13:18 |
| matey | adds another dimension to why he signed | Apr 02 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, did he? | Apr 02 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | waslsh opposed rms | Apr 02 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | cc also | Apr 02 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | now one of them works for the criminals (microsoft) | Apr 02 13:19 |
| matey | waslsh opposed rms <- but theres is nothing public stating that | Apr 02 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 02 13:20 |
| matey | she resigned among a bunch of people, and thats all | Apr 02 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but i hear so | Apr 02 13:20 |
| matey | well, when you hear what she opposed him on, let me know | Apr 02 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | i heard it from a reliable source | Apr 02 13:21 |
| matey | i wouldnt be surprised if she opposed him on a license matter | Apr 02 13:21 |
| matey | and not even wrt software | Apr 02 13:21 |
| schestowitz | covered here https://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/ | Apr 02 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Get Ready for Richard M. Stallman to Become FSF President Again (for Continuity of the FSF’s Mission) | Techrights | Apr 02 13:22 | |
| matey | as the fsf promotes non-free licenses on grounds i consider handwavy, revisionist and special-pleading...ish | Apr 02 13:22 |
| matey | covered here https://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/ <- ill bet you theres no details there. | Apr 02 13:22 |
| matey | about kat leaving | Apr 02 13:22 |
| schestowitz | she is also mentioned in http://techrights.org/2020/11/18/orgs-dilemma/ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/alex-oliva-fsf-departure/ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ian-kelling-fsf-board-of-directors/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/19/fsf-and-rms-lead/ | Apr 02 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Organisations Are/n’t the Problem | Techrights | Apr 02 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Alex Oliva’s Departure is a Massive Loss to the Free Software Foundation | Techrights | Apr 02 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF Welcomes Ian Kelling to Staff Seat on the FSF’s Board of Directors | Techrights | Apr 02 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | RMS Probably Isn’t Fit to Lead — Here’s the Rest of That Picture | Techrights | Apr 02 13:22 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | from memory: | Apr 02 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did a voting | Apr 02 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | the voting members | Apr 02 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | who include rms and oliva | Apr 02 13:23 |
| matey | yes | Apr 02 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and she was the one who opposes his return | Apr 02 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | *opposed | Apr 02 13:24 |
| matey | thats a shame | Apr 02 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so she resigned, I think | Apr 02 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and said so publicly | Apr 02 13:24 |
| matey | that means she supports his ousting on illegitimate (fraudulent) grounds | Apr 02 13:24 |
| matey | and this is a counsel for cc | Apr 02 13:24 |
| matey | already was, now general counsel (deputy before) | Apr 02 13:24 |
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| matey | i would have supported his ousting (as president only) on HONEST grounds | Apr 02 13:25 |
| matey | but that probably wouldnt have been enough to oust him. so be it-- i never supported ousting him on dishonest grounds. | Apr 02 13:25 |
| matey | and ever since they did, ive called for him to be reinstated, because you dont oust founders based on bullshit. | Apr 02 13:25 |
| matey | the ousting should be null and void | Apr 02 13:26 |
| matey | i cosnider it fraud. | Apr 02 13:26 |
| matey | if she wants to support fraud as general counsel, whatever | Apr 02 13:26 |
| matey | good lawyers are few and far between | Apr 02 13:26 |
| matey | kat owes much of her career to lessig, who cites rms | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | her career, mind you | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | lessig never tried to oust him | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | im not saying she wouldnt have a career without either of them | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | im saying she wouldnt have the one she has now | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | she might be a successful counsel in some other field | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | those two CREATED the field she works in, basically. | Apr 02 13:27 |
| matey | its ridiculous. as ridiculous as esr. | Apr 02 13:28 |
| matey | maybe she should be the general counsel for him. | Apr 02 13:28 |
| matey | but whatever, one among thousands. just a fairly ridiculous example | Apr 02 13:28 |
| matey | i consider it a fraud. | Apr 02 13:29 |
| matey | slander, libel, special pleading, double standards and hypocrisy. | Apr 02 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | to climb | Apr 02 13:29 |
| matey | but you dont sue a lynch mob. | Apr 02 13:29 |
| matey | you might wonder, i think she might, why i never bring your admin into this | Apr 02 13:31 |
| matey | there are two or three reasons | Apr 02 13:31 |
| matey | 1. it serves no goal of mine 2. shes one of the few (the only one i know) that unsigned 3. shes one of the few that explained her actions directly | Apr 02 13:32 |
| matey | any one of these counts, but together they count for more | Apr 02 13:32 |
| matey | i dont have much to say about it-- except that i dont have much to say about it. | Apr 02 13:32 |
| matey | the only one i know <- i know there are others, but im not familiar with them. | Apr 02 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm finalisign a pos related to this | Apr 02 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *post | Apr 02 13:33 |
| matey | imo you need additional reasons TO criticise someone who unsigned. by default they should be left out of the whole thing, unless theres good reason not to | Apr 02 13:34 |
| matey | and its already a given that some who signed didnt know wtf they were doing. no one has to explain that to me. | Apr 02 13:34 |
| matey | but you know, if you didnt know what you were doing... there are a FEW easy fixes | Apr 02 13:34 |
| matey | if you cant unsign for some technical reason, you can still you know, talk about it | Apr 02 13:35 |
| matey | I'm finalisign a pos related to this <- ill say a little prayer it doesnt make things worse | Apr 02 13:36 |
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| matey | schestowitz__ figosdev no longer writes for us. On many things I agree with him, but it always disturbed me that he urged you to step down Jan 04 11:34 <- youre never going to be forgiven for that | Apr 02 13:37 |
| matey | tom said: "Not only is it ancient history, with no bearing on the present, but you had fully explained the context previously. For him to bring this up now is simply a smear" | Apr 02 13:38 |
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| matey | you knew it wasnt true. | Apr 02 13:38 |
| techrights-news | Being Nice to Each Other and Avoidance of Miscommunication | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/kindness-to-the-worthy/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/kindness-to-the-worthy/ | Apr 02 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Being Nice to Each Other and Avoidance of Miscommunication | Techrights | Apr 02 13:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: the way I remember it | Apr 02 13:39 |
| matey | "Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." - Richard Stallman https://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/ | Apr 02 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | putting aside minor points | Apr 02 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Reprehensible’ GNOME Foundation Leadership Falls on Sword While Richard Stallman Returns | Techrights | Apr 02 13:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | johns (I think) was 'lobbying' RMS | Apr 02 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he viewed your articles as hostile to him | Apr 02 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think you called him some names at some point | Apr 02 13:40 |
| matey | like i care what johnsu thinks | Apr 02 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS did not budge | Apr 02 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, johns is also out | Apr 02 13:40 |
| matey | lol, you brought him up | Apr 02 13:40 |
| matey | I think you called him some names at some point <- yes, i was told he was supporting the coup by a source that should be reliable | Apr 02 13:41 |
| matey | so i called him some names | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 02 13:41 |
| matey | so what | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people left | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | several joined | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new joiners we know very little about | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 of them | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I hope they didn't vet more walshes | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | who can turn around at any time | Apr 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | because rms sexist something... | Apr 02 13:42 |
| matey | walsh is an example of something that goes with the territory | Apr 02 13:42 |
| matey | theres no sort of vetting that can prevent that happening | Apr 02 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | which isn't even based on actual solid evidence; the opposite is more true | Apr 02 13:42 |
| matey | there are only oaths | Apr 02 13:42 |
| matey | and im very critical of the oaths that already exist-- theyre a farce for one thing, and they are regressive | Apr 02 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can go by track record | Apr 02 13:42 |
| matey | which isn't even based on actual solid evidence; the opposite is more true <- exactly | Apr 02 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people broke my 'heart' ove the years | Apr 02 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | defected to enemy territories | Apr 02 13:43 |
| matey | my favourite defence of him is still the one from nadine strossen | Apr 02 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil, sjvm, even microbell more recently | Apr 02 13:43 |
| matey | thats a gem | Apr 02 13:43 |
| matey | even microbell more recently <- i gave on microbell a long time ago | Apr 02 13:43 |
| matey | basically i gave him a chance, and that was that | Apr 02 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | too manyu product ads | Apr 02 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now we have evidence of the payment, too | Apr 02 13:43 |
| matey | too much crap altogether | Apr 02 13:43 |
| matey | and now we have evidence of the payment, too <- classic | Apr 02 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | he presented it himself | Apr 02 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | showing oiff crates of expensive CPUs | Apr 02 13:44 |
| matey | that was his method of disclosure? | Apr 02 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | a paiur or 4? OK. | Apr 02 13:44 |
| matey | im curious just how many cpus he got | Apr 02 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but when you get a whole house to do some puff pieces, you went too far | Apr 02 13:45 |
| matey | i mean "crates" could be an exaggeration-- im not saying it is | Apr 02 13:45 |
| matey | but it only says "its a lot" | Apr 02 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not any cpus | Apr 02 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are worth like $5000 each | Apr 02 13:45 |
| matey | expensive ones | Apr 02 13:45 |
| matey | right | Apr 02 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | used to be over 10000 each when new | Apr 02 13:45 |
| matey | so like-- millions of dollars in cpus or something? | Apr 02 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's one thing | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | you then look at rthe "content" | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and see full brochures for those companies | Apr 02 13:46 |
| matey | i dont even understand how he got that much "clout" with amd in the first place | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | even when it's not about Linux | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | intel does the same | Apr 02 13:46 |
| matey | like hes a big name sort of | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | he also showed an intel crate | Apr 02 13:46 |
| matey | but millions of dollars big? | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the money isn't the issue | Apr 02 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but proportionality | Apr 02 13:47 |
| matey | the money helps quantify the issue | Apr 02 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then objectivity in reporting | Apr 02 13:47 |
| matey | i mean when theres a bribe... quantifying it in money is part of the story | Apr 02 13:47 |
| matey | because its the only sense of scale most readers would grasp | Apr 02 13:48 |
| matey | i have no idea what he got, in terms of quantity | Apr 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:17] <matey> Mike Linksvayer is an intellectual freedom and commons proponent, known as a technology entrepreneur, developer and activist from co-founding Bitzi and leadership of Creative Commons.[1][2] He is GitHub's Policy Director. | Apr 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | money comes in many forms | Apr 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | in past, present, future | Apr 02 13:48 |
| matey | oh i know | Apr 02 13:48 |
| matey | github bribes people with free hosting | Apr 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | those racks can be sold later | Apr 02 13:48 |
| matey | in return, they gain control | Apr 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just free hosting | Apr 02 13:48 |
| matey | but wait | Apr 02 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'free' clown cycles | Apr 02 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | github ACTIONS | Apr 02 13:49 |
| matey | gnu develops (too many) say its NOT control! | Apr 02 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are other 'perks' | Apr 02 13:49 |
| matey | theyre just providing "mirrors" that development "moves" to | Apr 02 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | not fictional ones like 'arctic vault' | Apr 02 13:49 |
| matey | they shouldnt stop with arctic vault. they should recreate the defunct aricebo dish and beam everyones code out into space | Apr 02 13:50 |
| matey | so extraterrestrials can file issues and submit pull requests | Apr 02 13:50 |
| matey | why not? | Apr 02 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | mars vault | Apr 02 13:51 |
| matey | mars vault! | Apr 02 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | for extra fee | Apr 02 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | buy land in mars. click here to learn more. | Apr 02 13:51 |
| matey | free with x amount of stars on your account | Apr 02 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | lunar github | Apr 02 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | buy disk space hosted and cooled on the moon | Apr 02 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | with bezos walking all over it | Apr 02 13:52 |
| matey | buy land in mars <- and when you get there* you see there are already squatters on your martian property, leading to ownership disputes on the martian court system* | Apr 02 13:52 |
| matey | * lol | Apr 02 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they call sell "followers" | Apr 02 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | swapnil would buy seveal units | Apr 02 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe with 200,000 "subescribers" instead of 20,000 his NEW video will get 70 views per week | Apr 02 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just 7 | Apr 02 13:53 |
| matey | swapnil, with crates full of apple m1 | Apr 02 13:53 |
| matey | coming soon | Apr 02 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | he showed off buying a mac | Apr 02 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | then tweeted in anger he had to reboot every day | Apr 02 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | after paying like $`15,000 | Apr 02 13:53 |
| matey | the mac runs linux though (happy birthday gnu) | Apr 02 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | last saturday I bought a new laptop for 205 pounds | Apr 02 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a short walking distance from home, to | Apr 02 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | too | Apr 02 13:54 |
| matey | then tweeted in anger he had to reboot every day <- i wonder why | Apr 02 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | 10-15 mins | Apr 02 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: "you're holding it wrong" | Apr 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR loves that like | Apr 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | Jobs about hypePhone antenna | Apr 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | blame the customer | Apr 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | just cheked my xfce laptop, uptime 118 days | Apr 02 13:56 |
| matey | you wouldnt believe mine | Apr 02 13:56 |
| matey | same digits | Apr 02 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh | Apr 02 13:57 |
| matey | 181 days | Apr 02 13:57 |
| matey | jsut checked | Apr 02 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | socially awkward penguin meme | Apr 02 13:57 |
| matey | maybe this one: | Apr 02 13:57 |
| matey | https://memegenerator.net/Socially-Awkward-To-Awesome-Penguin | Apr 02 14:00 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: memegenerator.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://memegenerator.net/Socially-Awkward-To-Awesome-Penguin | Apr 02 14:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memegenerator.net | Socially Awkward to Awesome Penguin | Meme Generator | Apr 02 14:00 | |
| *schestowitz-TR doing meme of zemlin slapping torvalds | Apr 02 14:01 | |
| matey | doing meme of zemlin slapping torvalds <- topical | Apr 02 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know the emplate | Apr 02 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | smith rock | Apr 02 14:02 |
| matey | actually i have paid very little attention | Apr 02 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, I have a better idea | Apr 02 14:02 |
| matey | i found three videos about it literally while looking for footage of news anchors from 20 years ago | Apr 02 14:02 |
| matey | in the same results | Apr 02 14:02 |
| matey | but it was worth it, just to see that people were saying "paper beats rock" | Apr 02 14:03 |
| matey | i dont know who can top that | Apr 02 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | paper | Apr 02 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | Stoner beats Chris | Apr 02 14:06 |
| matey | Getty charges almost $1,200 for widely used meme, Socially Awkward Penguin | Apr 02 14:10 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Crime: A Week Later No Investigation Launched, No Microsoft Executives Prosecuted, Nobody Phoned the Police, Not Even a Slap on the Wrist | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/microsoft-crime-unpunished/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/microsoft-crime-unpunished/ | Apr 02 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime: A Week Later No Investigation Launched, No Microsoft Executives Prosecuted, Nobody Phoned the Police, Not Even a Slap on the Wrist | Techrights | Apr 02 14:15 | |
| matey | https://hackaday.io/project/98837-8-bit-portable-internet-enabled-computer | Apr 02 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8-Bit Portable Internet-Enabled Computer | Hackaday.io | Apr 02 14:25 | |
| kingoffrance | "you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license"' that sounds to me like "this is xyz licensed but i retain a private 'copy' (or 'original') that can be licensed (or not) however" ? i.e. they are 2 separate "works" (terminology may be wrong, 2 separate instances from the same work perhaps). "otherwise, you must conclude that lessigs cc-licensed books are not cc-licensed" yeah, seems an instance is | Apr 02 14:25 |
| kingoffrance | one or the other "you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license." makes sense, it should not be "in the same place" is the confusion | Apr 02 14:25 |
| kingoffrance | if above is correct, yes they should know better | Apr 02 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | all rights reserved, but where? | Apr 02 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | which rights? | Apr 02 14:26 |
| matey | "This article (https://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP-NG/http-prob.html) by Simon E Spero shows that HTTP is a slow and inefficient internet protocol. Most of the time, HTTP is waiting. The slow start to HTTP connections hurts performance, and slows down the Round Trip Time (RTT)." | Apr 02 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | Analysis of HTTP Performance Problems | Apr 02 14:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: simply | Apr 02 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | make pages one file | Apr 02 14:26 |
| matey | sure | Apr 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the problem mostly goes away | Apr 02 14:27 |
| matey | yes but after you do that | Apr 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini take minisecs to load | Apr 02 14:27 |
| matey | http is still slow | Apr 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the latency is at the routing level | Apr 02 14:27 |
| matey | in other words it could be faster (if it were a different protocol) | Apr 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | SPDY Gonzeles Gulag | Apr 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | zales | Apr 02 14:28 |
| matey | i wasnt thinking of spdy | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | now known as HTTP/3 iir | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like webp and jpeg2000 | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they try to make proprietary things seem more open | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | even trash is now 'standardised' | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and DRM | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just fornalised those | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | OOXMl | Apr 02 14:28 |
| matey | <kingoffrance> one or the other "you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license." makes sense, it should not be "in the same place" is the confusion <- all rights reserved can be retracted and negated | Apr 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "open" | Apr 02 14:28 |
| matey | but a cc license cannoy | Apr 02 14:28 |
| matey | cannot | Apr 02 14:29 |
| matey | i think all rights reserved + cc license is an unintended "dual license" | Apr 02 14:29 |
| matey | but either way, saying "all rights reserved" has never outweighed other license requirements / rights | Apr 02 14:29 |
| matey | its not a license, its just a copyright notice | Apr 02 14:30 |
| kingoffrance | yes, "all rights reserved" is talking seems is about the "author's" rights, not the work per se | Apr 02 14:30 |
| matey | but i still think its weird to put both. lawyers. | Apr 02 14:30 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Apr 02 14:30 |
| matey | the real confusion begins with ccs whimsical take on a.r.r. "some rights reserved" | Apr 02 14:30 |
| matey | but thats more marketing than legally binding, it creates confusion | Apr 02 14:31 |
| kingoffrance | you can put comments in a box the sov citizens say. and then someone like me says oh look a hieroglyphic lol noone agrees lol | Apr 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | or assuming unlabeled is public domain | Apr 02 14:31 |
| matey | or assuming unlabeled is public domain <- as it was until 1976/78 | Apr 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we were PD people could scrape the whole site, repost, then change the articles themselves | Apr 02 14:31 |
| matey | in the states at least | Apr 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | to say something the originals did not say | Apr 02 14:31 |
| matey | if we were PD people could scrape the whole site, repost, then change the articles themselves <- they can still do that, but they must cite (per the license) | Apr 02 14:32 |
| techrights-news | "This 5-minute talk, which covers “information overload”, “algorithms that may stoke outrage” and a few more things is Paul Fernhout’s take on tools that are inherently immoral or problematic; we need less, not more, and better, according to Fernhout." http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/ | Apr 02 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Where E-Mail, IRC and USENET (Even Social Control Media) Fail at Communications | Techrights | Apr 02 14:33 | |
| matey | there are also widely accepted standards and practices that are not required by copyright | Apr 02 14:34 |
| matey | for example, in academia its not enough to follow the license, there are other expectations on top of this for a "scholarly work" | Apr 02 14:35 |
| kingoffrance | well i agree its weird. a license is a "under these conditions, i relinquish some rights". so any license is not "all rights reserved" by definition | Apr 02 14:35 |
| kingoffrance | and public domain is "no rights reserved" | Apr 02 14:35 |
| matey | dishes in restaurants are not under copyright but there is a "code" (honour code) among chefs, enforced by boycott | Apr 02 14:35 |
| kingoffrance | "all rights relinquished" | Apr 02 14:35 |
| matey | and public domain is "no rights reserved" <- technically public domain means "no rights reservable" | Apr 02 14:36 |
| techrights-news | Are we meant to assume Russia is literally Hitler now? https://wptavern.com/wordpress-org-removes-russian-pro-war-plugin-from-directory | Apr 02 14:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wptavern.com | WordPress.org Removes Russian Pro-War Plugin From Directory – WP Tavern | Apr 02 14:36 | |
| kingoffrance | yep | Apr 02 14:36 |
| matey | but it doesnt even mean that | Apr 02 14:36 |
| matey | its really close to that | Apr 02 14:36 |
| kingoffrance | explain :) | Apr 02 14:36 |
| matey | there are rights that apply even to pd works | Apr 02 14:37 |
| matey | theyre simply tangential to (not part of) copyright | Apr 02 14:37 |
| kingoffrance | well i know for other thing there is like "you cant sell your soul" "noone can do the impossible" some things you cant give away | Apr 02 14:37 |
| matey | an example being using your likeness for certain things | Apr 02 14:37 |
| matey | is tangential to copyright | Apr 02 14:37 |
| techrights-news | "Luo Di developed the source code of an application called VirtualApp (VA) to be hosted on GitHub.com under the third version of the GNU General Public License (GPLV3). The GPL is a series of widely used free software licenses that guarantee end users the four freedoms" https://www.mondaq.com/china/patent/1175402/guangzhou-ip-court39s-top-10-exemplary-cases-of-2021 | Apr 02 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Guangzhou IP Court's Top 10 Exemplary Cases Of 2021 - Intellectual Property - China | Apr 02 14:37 | |
| kingoffrance | makes sense | Apr 02 14:37 |
| matey | a photo can bein the public domain, the person in the photo can still sue around certain uses | Apr 02 14:38 |
| matey | but certainly wrt copyright alone, pd means no rights reserved | Apr 02 14:39 |
| matey | or reservable | Apr 02 14:39 |
| matey | except in finland :) | Apr 02 14:39 |
| matey | if you have a restaurant, no chef has a monopoly on most dishes | Apr 02 14:40 |
| techrights-news | Lawyers rarely can code; so they look for some other ways to make money, at the expense of those who do all the actual work https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/have-you-ever-considered-an-open-source-2057520/ | Apr 02 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Have you ever considered an open-source audit for your organisation? | Escrow London - JDSupra | Apr 02 14:40 | |
| matey | you can go find a recipe you love and add a couple touches to make it yours | Apr 02 14:40 |
| matey | no one can (or will) stop you... but... | Apr 02 14:40 |
| matey | chefs have a "signature dish" which is basically theirs | Apr 02 14:41 |
| matey | if you bite too much off their signature dish, every chef and restaurant owner will be against your business | Apr 02 14:41 |
| techrights-news | “Mist, our middleware tool, runs in a separate process, runs concurrently with RetroArch Steam, and functions as a bridge between this separate process interfacing with Steamworks and the GPL application itself running in an entirely different process.” https://www.pcgamesn.com/emulation/retroarch-steam-deck-emulation | Apr 02 14:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroArch update makes Steam Deck emulation better | PCGamesN | Apr 02 14:41 | |
| matey | its a code, its not law | Apr 02 14:41 |
| matey | this way everyone has a right to promote themselves with their own best offering, and its basically untouchable | Apr 02 14:42 |
| matey | but i can make gordan ramsays risotto and no one will care. though simply as a matter of style id probably add my own touch to it anyway | Apr 02 14:43 |
| matey | thats assuming i can make risotto for shit, which i cant | Apr 02 14:44 |
| matey | what you cant do (regarding copyright) is copy recipes verbatim out of a book | Apr 02 14:45 |
| matey | the process and the ingredients cant be copyrighted-- but the actual wording can | Apr 02 14:46 |
| matey | cc-licensed recipes then save you the trouble of rewriting the whole thing | Apr 02 14:46 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/Eyzww91.jpeg | Apr 02 14:55 |
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| techrights-news | Court erred in Neo4j ruling – Software Freedom Conservancy - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/02/court_neo4j_ruling/ ䷉ Source: theregister | Apr 02 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Court erred in Neo4j ruling – Software Freedom Conservancy • The Register | Apr 02 15:06 | |
| schestowitz-TR | SFC will drag a judge out | Apr 02 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | with a CoC | Apr 02 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and BY-the-CoC | Apr 02 15:06 |
| techrights-news | Avergae Apple cons00mer: meh, it does not cost anything. Must be malware. https://osxdaily.com/2022/03/27/get-nano-text-editor-mac/ | Apr 02 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-osxdaily.com | How to Install nano Text Editor on Mac Again | Apr 02 15:08 | |
| techrights-news | How Microsofters explain GIMP: "it’s free to download and open source, making it work well with the community, and everyone can work on the source codes." https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-free-photo-editor/ | Apr 02 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | 5+ best free photo editors for Windows 11 | Apr 02 15:11 | |
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| techrights-news | This likely a plagiarism site: "GIMP refers to GNU Image Manipulation Program and is one of the most well-known alternatives to Photoshop. The best part is GIMP is good for both beginner photo editors and advanced photo editors too." https://www.thetealmango.com/technology/8-free-alternatives-to-photoshop-in-2022/ | Apr 02 15:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetealmango.com | 8 Free Alternatives To Photoshop in 2022 - The Teal Mango | Apr 02 15:12 | |
| techrights-news | The April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163267 | Apr 02 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Apr 02 15:17 | |
| techrights-news | First time in years that I see Matt Hartley https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page01.html | Apr 02 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 1 | Apr 02 15:21 | |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> SFC will drag a judge out <- which judge | Apr 02 15:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the old one | Apr 02 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | who says bad things | Apr 02 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thinks wrong | Apr 02 15:26 |
| matey | i think its the word "judge" (noun) that is confusing me here | Apr 02 15:26 |
| matey | there arent very many of them | Apr 02 15:26 |
| matey | zero i know of with any relationship to sfc | Apr 02 15:27 |
| matey | unless you mean "person who judges" which is nearly anyone, but "person who judges sfc" would narrow it down | Apr 02 15:27 |
| matey | if i were sure what you meant i wouldnt ask | Apr 02 15:28 |
| techrights-news | Gulag breaks stuff by imposing formats many platforms do not support https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page05.html | Apr 02 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 5 | Apr 02 15:28 | |
| matey | /me wonders if pocock is retreating | Apr 02 15:29 |
| techrights-news | Repo Review: Cryptomator https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page06. | Apr 02 15:29 |
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| matey | im not sure, not much to go on | Apr 02 15:29 |
| matey | also when was gerwitz in a position to censor him? i wasnt aware of him ever being in charge of email at the fsf | Apr 02 15:30 |
| matey | i believe someone did, i dont understand how it could be gerwitz though | Apr 02 15:30 |
| techrights-news | "GULAG'S DIALER AND MESSAGING APPS HAVE BEEN COLLECTING AND SENDING DATA TO GULAG WITHOUT SPECIFIC NOTICE OR CONSENT, possibly in violation of Europe's GDPR, according to an article on The Register." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page07.html | Apr 02 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 7 | Apr 02 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | "I hate it when developers try to make things "simpler," especially when something has been one way for a very, very long, LONG time. That's the case with the most recent Firefox 98.0.1. Developers, in their misdirected zeal to "simplify" the download workflow, managed to ROYALLY screw it up." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page09.html | Apr 02 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 9 | Apr 02 15:32 | |
| matey | Fri 21:54:11 │ 〖bnchs〗 │ i hate when servers tell me that IP address of some domain Fri 21:54:14 │ 〖bnchs〗 │ fuck that shit | Apr 02 15:32 |
| matey | he was missing the point | Apr 02 15:32 |
| matey | the problem isnt that they do that | Apr 02 15:33 |
| matey | the problem is they often dont | Apr 02 15:33 |
| matey | he got the whole thing 180 | Apr 02 15:33 |
| matey | i wasnt complaining about the internet working, but the many ways in which it fails to do so | Apr 02 15:33 |
| matey | its not even a straw man, its an upside down man | Apr 02 15:33 |
| matey | a straw man would have been closer to what it was critiquing (if it was even right side up) | Apr 02 15:34 |
| matey | its like if you complaing above a pinto going up in flames and he said | Apr 02 15:34 |
| techrights-news | How to Install MX Linux on Your PC ⚓ https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-mx-linux/ ䷉ Source: makeuseof | Apr 02 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Install MX Linux on Your PC | Apr 02 15:35 | |
| matey | yeah, i hate it when i get in a car and it takes me places | Apr 02 15:35 |
| matey | okay | Apr 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it was poorly phrased | Apr 02 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I too was a little confused by thst statement | Apr 02 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | (at the time) | Apr 02 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | tor helps obfuscate routes | Apr 02 15:36 |
| matey | 〖XRevan86〗 │ matey: "american is actually british english with bits of canadian, spanish and german thrown in" <- It is not. <- sorry, i thought it was obvious i was being facetious, particularly since "canadian" isnt a language | Apr 02 15:37 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Right, I'm too used to linguistic freakery at this point. | Apr 02 15:38 |
| techrights-news | Illinois Tech alumnus Jack Dongarra wins Turi | EurekAlert! ⚓ https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/948379 ䷉ Source: eurekalert mentions GNU Octave | Apr 02 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurekalert.org | Illinois Tech alumnus Jack Dongarra wins Turi | EurekAlert! | Apr 02 15:38 | |
| matey | oh i sympathise, i was actually having fun with it | Apr 02 15:38 |
| matey | i really do prefer facts, unless theres mysticism (directly) involved | Apr 02 15:39 |
| matey | at that point its difficult to find consensus on what "facts" would be | Apr 02 15:39 |
| matey | of course speculation has a place, and when speculation remains unchallenged for the better part of a decade, upgrading to "suspicion" has a place too | Apr 02 15:40 |
| matey | but with regards to linguistics, there are reasonable and sound processes and all that | Apr 02 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | Naturally. | Apr 02 15:41 |
| matey | and i dont mind people speculating, provided they know "false friends" are a thing and-- its sad if theres a blatant and obvious angle behind the whole thing, eh? | Apr 02 15:41 |
| XRevan86 | But some people confuse their own madness with proper evidence. | Apr 02 15:41 |
| matey | well i think thats part of the nature of madness, but i agree that some people seem like they ought to know better | Apr 02 15:42 |
| techrights-news | From Russia with love https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/nasa_vande_hei_return/ | Apr 02 15:42 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/nasa_vande_hei_return/ | Apr 02 15:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | NASA astronaut returns to Earth on a Russian Soyuz • The Register | Apr 02 15:42 | |
| XRevan86 | matey: Indeed, people wouldn't be mad if they could recognise it. | Apr 02 15:42 |
| matey | at any rate, if i say anything patently ridiculous about word origins or language, its probably a joke-- or a reasonable error | Apr 02 15:42 |
| matey | this one was a joke | Apr 02 15:42 |
| matey | but given the territory, its completely understandable that you were concerned it was something else :) | Apr 02 15:43 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhuNRWskgNQ | Apr 02 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EhuNRWskgNQ | Apr 02 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | [1435] How To Fill My Wife’s Beaver - Invidious | Apr 02 15:44 | |
| matey | /me wonders how far back mincers (useful) notation of multimedia urls goes | Apr 02 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not his strongest April 1st. | Apr 02 15:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 02 15:45 |
| MinceR | his others are linked in the description | Apr 02 15:45 |
| matey | /me giggles | Apr 02 15:46 |
| matey | /me writes in to complain that he didnt actually show how to fill it, only how to open it | Apr 02 15:47 |
| matey | if theres any trick to getting the candy in, the video wont show you | Apr 02 15:47 |
| matey | maybe theres a part 2 | Apr 02 15:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 02 15:50 |
| MinceR | he also didn't show how that candy probably doesn't work with the vending mechanism | Apr 02 15:50 |
| matey | it depends | Apr 02 15:52 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft "Defender" as back doors https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sentinelone_microsoft_azure_iot/ | Apr 02 15:52 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sentinelone_microsoft_azure_iot/ | Apr 02 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | In detail: Bugs patched in Microsoft Azure Defender for IoT • The Register | Apr 02 15:52 | |
| matey | ive seen machines like that which dispense runts, which are shown in a large bag in the video | Apr 02 15:53 |
| matey | so its quite plausible | Apr 02 15:53 |
| matey | also nestle now owns willy wonka, so that sucks | Apr 02 15:54 |
| techrights-news | Pushing new buzzwords to create lots of hype https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/puppet_devops_salary/ | Apr 02 15:54 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/puppet_devops_salary/ | Apr 02 15:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | DevOps salaries revealed in Puppet report • The Register | Apr 02 15:54 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TRozAbaKs9M | Apr 02 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | [862] Getting Into My Wife’s Beaver (April Fools Video) - Invidious | Apr 02 15:55 | |
| matey | his wife has two beavers | Apr 02 15:55 |
| techrights-news | US taxpayers again forced to bail out or subsidise Microsoft https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/pentagon_delays_jwcc_cloud_deal/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Apr 02 15:55 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/pentagon_delays_jwcc_cloud_deal/ | Apr 02 15:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Pentagon again delays JWCC cloud mega-deal • The Register | Apr 02 15:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | Apr 02 15:55 | |
| matey | also nestle now owns willy wonka, so that sucks <- funny how free software is exactly like consumer brands in this regard | Apr 02 15:56 |
| matey | everything is owned by nestle and microsoft | Apr 02 15:56 |
| techrights-news | Can't they just leave ARM alone? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sk_hynix_may_head_up/ | Apr 02 15:56 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sk_hynix_may_head_up/ | Apr 02 15:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | SK Hynix may head up consortium to buy Arm • The Register | Apr 02 15:56 | |
| matey | "indie" music labels owned by major riaa labels, etc | Apr 02 15:56 |
| matey | "i liked free software before it went all mainstream" or really, before it was utterly co-opted | Apr 02 15:57 |
| matey | by people who hate freedom. | Apr 02 15:57 |
| techrights-news | How to blame VMware problems on anyone but VMware https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/log4j-malware-sophos-vmware-horizon/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2022 | Apr 02 15:59 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/log4j-malware-sophos-vmware-horizon/ | Apr 02 15:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Log4j attacks hit remote-work tool VMware Horizon – report • The Register | Apr 02 15:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | VMware - Techrights | Apr 02 15:59 | |
| matey | not worth the time it takes, but i still thought it was funny https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dmbpagijVkk | Apr 02 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Lee Mack's Joke Leaves John Cleese In Near Tears | The Graham Norton Show - Invidious | Apr 02 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft boosters' sites make the wrong assumption that developers are using Windows https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2022/04/01/preparing-cifar-data.aspx | Apr 02 16:01 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: visualstudiomagazine.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2022/04/01/preparing-cifar-data.aspx | Apr 02 16:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-visualstudiomagazine.com | Preparing CIFAR Image Data for PyTorch -- Visual Studio Magazine | Apr 02 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | Being kind to people who deserve kindness is an important attribute/skill; sadly, sociopathic corporations and the tactless people they put in charge of projects/communities mostly ruin projects http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/kindness-to-the-worthy/ | Apr 02 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Being Nice to Each Other and Avoidance of Miscommunication | Techrights | Apr 02 16:03 | |
| techrights-news | In the so-called ‘free market’, Microsoft crime simply pays off and there's an incentive to engage in corruption (even in the future) http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/microsoft-crime-unpunished/ | Apr 02 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime: A Week Later No Investigation Launched, No Microsoft Executives Prosecuted, Nobody Phoned the Police, Not Even a Slap on the Wrist | Techrights | Apr 02 16:03 | |
| matey | this is priceless https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f74L2hRZE1Y | Apr 02 16:04 |
| techrights-news | The geeky-gadgets Web site pivots to Webspam https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/ | Apr 02 16:04 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: geeky-gadgets.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/ | Apr 02 16:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | John Cleese Offered To Kill His Mom To Cheer Her Up | CONAN on TBS - Invidious | Apr 02 16:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Last Minute Deal: Linux Administration Bootcamp - Geeky Gadgets | Apr 02 16:04 | |
| matey | (john cleese) | Apr 02 16:04 |
| *Skywave has quit (Quit) | Apr 02 16:05 | |
| techrights-news | Cause of global warming identified https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/nvidia_releases_1999_8kcapable_geforce/ | Apr 02 16:06 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/nvidia_releases_1999_8kcapable_geforce/ | Apr 02 16:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Nvidia's $1,999, 8K-capable GeForce RTX 3090 Ti GPU is out • The Register | Apr 02 16:06 | |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@wacq3du8fk9qq.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 16:08 | |
| techrights-news | "This week I changed vehicles and took the train again --- after a much too long period of trying to evade the plague by car (successfully so). In a nutshell, commuting by train takes quite a bit longer, but I don't need to pay much attention, so it is not as exhausting." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220402-commute-5.gmi | Apr 02 16:08 |
| MinceR | lol @ Cleese | Apr 02 16:08 |
| bnchs | john cheese | Apr 02 16:09 |
| MinceR | that's someone else | Apr 02 16:09 |
| techrights-news | How to see running IP Services on Linux with ss gemini://blog.datapulp.de/how-to-see-running-ip-services-on-linux-with-ss | Apr 02 16:09 |
| bnchs | i will kill your mom with a heart attack | Apr 02 16:09 |
| MinceR | still funny, but not as funny | Apr 02 16:09 |
| bnchs | thats john cheese | Apr 02 16:09 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 16:10 |
| bnchs | i hate how duckduckgo is biased towards microsoft | Apr 02 16:12 |
| bnchs | even with shit like fastcgi documentation | Apr 02 16:12 |
| bnchs | it brings up MS IIS crap | Apr 02 16:12 |
| techrights-news | "I distro hopped a lot in my early twenties. Eventually I mostly used Debian at university, Ubuntu for personal computers (the hardware support has always been good in Ubuntu), and Red Hat for work. On my servers I run Raspberry Pi OS (formerly Raspbian) Lite, which I guess is pretty much Debian." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-02-i-answer-questions-part-i.gmi | Apr 02 16:12 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163268 | Apr 02 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 02 16:12 | |
| bnchs | and then fastcgi nginx and fastcgi library documentation | Apr 02 16:12 |
| bnchs | nobody fucking uses MS IIS | Apr 02 16:12 |
| bnchs | microsoft® duckduckgo™ | Apr 02 16:13 |
| techrights-news | "Now that I'm using a slower laptop I've turned off JS by default in uBlock Origin. Pretty much every site that isn't a personal blog refuses to have even basic functionality without JS. An incomplete list of sites or apps that don't work at all (and I do mean that they don't work at all)" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-02-everything-breaks-experiencing-the-web-without-javascript.gmi | Apr 02 16:13 |
| matey | /me /me suddenly thinks audrey and sybils mum from fawlty towers are both based loosely on cleeses mum | Apr 02 16:13 |
| matey | audreys always complaining (to which sybils goes OH, I KNOOOOOOW) and when sybil talks about her mum she says "my mother didnt have a life force, it was more of a death force, really" | Apr 02 16:14 |
| matey | both sound like cleeses mum | Apr 02 16:14 |
| techrights-news | DST woes. "This year the artificial jet lag might play out for me just nicely --- due to my other not so well being I tend to go to sleep very early, 21h local time or even sooner." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220402-clock-skew.gmi | Apr 02 16:15 |
| techrights-news | Self-nuke? Self-slapped? gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/npr/current/1.gmi | Apr 02 16:16 |
| matey | "How's Audrey?" "She's in a terrible state." "Ah, good, good." | Apr 02 16:17 |
| bnchs | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fastcgi+documentation+c | Apr 02 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-html.duckduckgo.com | fastcgi documentation c at DuckDuckGo | Apr 02 16:17 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DDG = Micreosoft | Apr 02 16:18 |
| bnchs | first result: how to use php fastcgi in MS IIS | Apr 02 16:18 |
| bnchs | second result: fastcgi library for .NET C# | Apr 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft recommends Microsoft | Apr 02 16:18 |
| bnchs | i specifically put "c" | Apr 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft <3 C | Apr 02 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft owns C | Apr 02 16:19 |
| bnchs | yes | Apr 02 16:19 |
| bnchs | why should it return MS IIS tutorials | Apr 02 16:19 |
| bnchs | and a C# library | Apr 02 16:19 |
| matey | i specifically put "c" <- try "c " :) | Apr 02 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | c sharp knife... at the back | Apr 02 16:19 |
| matey | a rusty sharp knife | Apr 02 16:20 |
| bnchs | the first result is MS IIS documentation | Apr 02 16:20 |
| bnchs | where the only found oocurance was the character "C" | Apr 02 16:20 |
| matey | the first result is MS IIS documentation <- all results are equal, some are more equal than others | Apr 02 16:20 |
| bnchs | and "fastcgi" | Apr 02 16:20 |
| techrights-news | Zlib data compressor fixes 17-year-old security bug - patch, errrm, now - Naked Security ⚓ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/03/29/zlib-data-compressor-fixes-17-year-old-security-bug-patch-errr-now/ ䷉ Source: nakedsecurity | Apr 02 16:21 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: sophos.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/03/29/zlib-data-compressor-fixes-17-year-old-security-bug-patch-errr-now/ | Apr 02 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Zlib data compressor fixes 17-year-old security bug – patch, errrm, now – Naked Security | Apr 02 16:21 | |
| bnchs | "fastcgi documentation linux" | Apr 02 16:21 |
| bnchs | you can guess | Apr 02 16:21 |
| techrights-news | Neither. Fake dichotomy. Fakecoin dichotomy. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/29/2412285/0/en/Unix-Hash-Ethereum-vs-Bitcoin-Which-One-Is-a-Better-Investment.html | Apr 02 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Unix Hash: Ethereum vs. Bitcoin, Which One Is a Better | Apr 02 16:21 | |
| bnchs | first result: MS IIS again | Apr 02 16:21 |
| bnchs | second result: MONO | Apr 02 16:21 |
| matey | third result: will smith slaps chris rock | Apr 02 16:22 |
| bnchs | remember MS IIS is a windows-only program | Apr 02 16:22 |
| bnchs | third result: MS IIS again | Apr 02 16:22 |
| matey | c#hris rock | Apr 02 16:22 |
| bnchs | fourth result: finally nginx fastcgi | Apr 02 16:22 |
| matey | try doing a search on: nginx fastcgi "c" | Apr 02 16:23 |
| matey | see how low nginx is | Apr 02 16:23 |
| techrights-news | Russia is losing in its home(land). Chelsea 1 - 3 Brentford. F'king Brentford! | Apr 02 16:23 |
| bnchs | first result: nginx stack overflow question | Apr 02 16:23 |
| matey | slightly better | Apr 02 16:24 |
| matey | duck duck gates | Apr 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | suck suck 5 dollars | Apr 02 16:24 |
| bnchs | i like how even for "fastcgi documentation linux" (what i expected was library documentation for open market's fcgi libraries) | Apr 02 16:25 |
| bnchs | it returns MS IIS and mono crap | Apr 02 16:25 |
| techrights-news | Viasat Hack Tied to Data-Wiping Malware Designed to Shut Down Modems | PCMag ⚓ https://www.pcmag.com/news/viasat-hack-tied-to-data-wiping-malware-designed-to-shut-down-modems ䷉ Source: pcmag | Apr 02 16:26 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pcmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/viasat-hack-tied-to-data-wiping-malware-designed-to-shut-down-modems | Apr 02 16:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Viasat Hack Tied to Data-Wiping Malware Designed to Shut Down Modems | PCMag | Apr 02 16:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: and some DISTROS preload DDG | Apr 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never forgive them | Apr 02 16:26 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they do it for free, double the wounding | Apr 02 16:26 |
| bnchs | its a mirror of bing with a different brand and look | Apr 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they actively send users to Microsoft | Apr 02 16:26 |
| matey | and some DISTROS preload DDG <- what, in the browser? or as an icon | Apr 02 16:26 |
| bnchs | literally NOTHING | Apr 02 16:26 |
| matey | / menu item | Apr 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: defeault search | Apr 02 16:27 |
| *mimorek (~mimorek@trhncgdin767n.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 16:27 | |
| bnchs | ok gulag's search is way better | Apr 02 16:27 |
| bnchs | "fastcgi documentation c" | Apr 02 16:27 |
| bnchs | returns the documentation for open market's fcgi libraries | Apr 02 16:28 |
| matey | they actively send users to Microsoft <- im not sure sending them to google is better | Apr 02 16:28 |
| bnchs | as first result | Apr 02 16:28 |
| matey | ddg might be just as bad (or almost) but googles bad reputation is a lot older (and running strong) | Apr 02 16:28 |
| bnchs | ddg is just a mirror of bing with a different brand and look | Apr 02 16:28 |
| bnchs | hosted on microsoft azure | Apr 02 16:28 |
| bnchs | has microsoft ads | Apr 02 16:28 |
| matey | thats at least partly true | Apr 02 16:28 |
| bnchs | proprietary | Apr 02 16:28 |
| techrights-news | VMware is back doors https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/03/31/two-different-vmware-spring-bugs-at-large-we-cut-through-the-confusion/ | Apr 02 16:29 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: sophos.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/03/31/two-different-vmware-spring-bugs-at-large-we-cut-through-the-confusion/ | Apr 02 16:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Two different “VMware Spring” bugs at large – we cut through the confusion – Naked Security | Apr 02 16:29 | |
| matey | proprietary <- and google releases the source code to their engine? | Apr 02 16:29 |
| *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@k86dad7ibinds.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 16:29 | |
| matey | roy is talking about ddg like its the greater evil | Apr 02 16:29 |
| matey | i hate both google and microsoft, im not sure ddg is better but i dont know why anyone would think its worse | Apr 02 16:29 |
| matey | 15:26 <schestowitz-TR> I never forgive them <- you forgive them for sending people to google though | Apr 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag does not seek to obliterate us | Apr 02 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft does | Apr 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs demonstrated that well | Apr 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you search for things | Apr 02 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | DDG markets its masters | Apr 02 16:31 |
| matey | there are worse things than bias. are we building this comparison on the idea that google doesnt returned biased results? | Apr 02 16:32 |
| matey | google doesnt work without js, ddg does | Apr 02 16:32 |
| matey | google doesnt work with tor, ddg does | Apr 02 16:33 |
| matey | ddg is based, ah! but google isnt... | Apr 02 16:33 |
| matey | riiiiiiiiiight | Apr 02 16:33 |
| matey | this is a silly comparison imo | Apr 02 16:33 |
| matey | "hosted on azure" but we forgive people for using github CONSTANTLY | Apr 02 16:33 |
| matey | we draw the line at ddg | Apr 02 16:34 |
| matey | im not saying use ddg, but to use google you have to: | Apr 02 16:34 |
| matey | 1. turn on js | Apr 02 16:34 |
| matey | 2. turn off tor | Apr 02 16:34 |
| *inky (~inky@5.77.134.213) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 16:34 | |
| matey | 3. submit to fingerprinting 12 ways from sunday | Apr 02 16:34 |
| bnchs | wrong on first reason | Apr 02 16:35 |
| matey | 4. you still get biased results from an evil company | Apr 02 16:35 |
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| bnchs | gulag does have a JS-free version | Apr 02 16:35 |
| matey | good to know | Apr 02 16:35 |
| matey | i know they used to, i didnt think it worked anymore | Apr 02 16:35 |
| bnchs | well its both JS-free and compatible with older browsers | Apr 02 16:35 |
| matey | /me fires up netsurf | Apr 02 16:35 |
| bnchs | i think you can make it return it with a unknown user agent | Apr 02 16:35 |
| matey | (and where is netsurf hosted) | Apr 02 16:36 |
| matey | hmm, google works in netsurf with js off | Apr 02 16:36 |
| matey | wild | Apr 02 16:36 |
| matey | didnt know that still worked | Apr 02 16:37 |
| matey | /me runs netsurf with tor | Apr 02 16:37 |
| bnchs | hmmm | Apr 02 16:37 |
| bnchs | captcha time | Apr 02 16:37 |
| matey | yep | Apr 02 16:38 |
| matey | but apparently a lot of google fingerprinting is optional | Apr 02 16:38 |
| matey | because you can turn js off | Apr 02 16:38 |
| matey | they only want your ip | Apr 02 16:38 |
| bnchs | hmmm | Apr 02 16:39 |
| bnchs | odd thing | Apr 02 16:39 |
| bnchs | i tried out google in tor browser | Apr 02 16:39 |
| bnchs | it does work although with a language dependent on the exit node's country | Apr 02 16:40 |
| bnchs | so its german | Apr 02 16:40 |
| bnchs | whats better than ddg is that you can search for images without javascript | Apr 02 16:40 |
| bnchs | in ddg you have to enable javascript to even search for images | Apr 02 16:41 |
| matey | i tried out google in tor browser <- this doesnt work for me | Apr 02 16:41 |
| matey | though since its based on a blacklist, you could find an exit node that isnt blacklisted yet | Apr 02 16:42 |
| bnchs | it does | Apr 02 16:42 |
| matey | it does <- not for me | Apr 02 16:42 |
| bnchs | in some german exit node | Apr 02 16:42 |
| matey | in some german exit node <- of course if there were some way for me to choose an exit node rather than getting a new one at random | Apr 02 16:42 |
| bnchs | then it wouldnt be so anonymous | Apr 02 16:42 |
| matey | but youve said things that are better about google search, and theyre valid | Apr 02 16:43 |
| matey | <bnchs> then it wouldnt be so anonymous <- of course | Apr 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:33] <matey> "hosted on azure" but we forgive people for using github CONSTANTLY | Apr 02 16:43 |
| matey | and i understand the priority in the decision | Apr 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | who is we? | Apr 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, it's missing the point | Apr 02 16:43 |
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| matey | <schestowitz-TR> who is we? <- most people | Apr 02 16:43 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> also, it's missing the point <- im not so sure | Apr 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sresulted are pulled from Microsoft | Apr 02 16:43 |
| bnchs | i would have used ddg | Apr 02 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just Microsoft server | Apr 02 16:43 |
| bnchs | if image search didnt require JS | Apr 02 16:44 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> the sresulted are pulled from Microsoft <- and with google theyre pulled from google | Apr 02 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo | Apr 02 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights | Apr 02 16:44 | |
| bnchs | matey: yeah but | Apr 02 16:44 |
| matey | i think theyre both crap | Apr 02 16:44 |
| bnchs | duckduckgo is supposed to be different from bing | Apr 02 16:44 |
| matey | duckduckgo is supposed to be different from bing <- and its not very much | Apr 02 16:45 |
| bnchs | it shouldnt be a bing with a fresh coat of paint | Apr 02 16:45 |
| matey | i agree | Apr 02 16:45 |
| bnchs | duckduckgo rewards | Apr 02 16:45 |
| matey | i mean for me, google vs bing is like hitler vs stalin | Apr 02 16:45 |
| bnchs | definitely not a copy of microsoft rewards | Apr 02 16:45 |
| matey | both dictators, both murderers, both insane | Apr 02 16:46 |
| matey | and if one was running against the other in election with two candidates | Apr 02 16:47 |
| matey | /me shrugs | Apr 02 16:47 |
| matey | but i dont know why people who voted for hitler would say they cant forgive the ones that voted for stalin | Apr 02 16:47 |
| matey | theyre both awful | Apr 02 16:47 |
| bnchs | im not voting for gulag | Apr 02 16:47 |
| matey | it was more directed at roys comment | Apr 02 16:48 |
| bnchs | even in android browser | Apr 02 16:48 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> I never forgive them | Apr 02 16:48 |
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| bnchs | it doesnt let you specify a custom search engine | Apr 02 16:48 |
| bnchs | its either duckduckgo, bing, gulag and other shit | Apr 02 16:48 |
| matey | <bnchs> it doesnt let you specify a custom search engine <- thats bad | Apr 02 16:48 |
| matey | i used to think maybe android could be... | Apr 02 16:49 |
| matey | i tell people dont use android. for anything. | Apr 02 16:49 |
| matey | dont get a smartphone. | Apr 02 16:49 |
| matey | also, dont get a smartphone. | Apr 02 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | putting microsoft's in gnu/linux users' face is like putting pork in a halal meat or a vegan's plate | Apr 02 16:49 |
| matey | putting microsoft's in gnu/linux users' face is like putting pork in a halal meat or a vegan's plate <- no, its like giving chicken to someone who already ordered beef | Apr 02 16:50 |
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| matey | or who was already served beef (and now its replaced with chicken instead) | Apr 02 16:50 |
| bnchs | especially in browsers that dont let you specify a custom search engine | Apr 02 16:50 |
| bnchs | its like shoving pork in halal/vegan's mouth | Apr 02 16:51 |
| matey | if theyre vegan, maybe dont go to a rub place (or go to one with a vegan section in the menu) | Apr 02 16:51 |
| matey | <bnchs> its like shoving pork in halal/vegan's mouth <- again! how is google (which they already had) vegan? | Apr 02 16:51 |
| matey | this is ridiculous | Apr 02 16:51 |
| bnchs | no | Apr 02 16:51 |
| matey | thats not | Apr 02 16:51 |
| bnchs | read the post before that | Apr 02 16:51 |
| matey | <bnchs> especially in browsers that dont let you specify a custom search engine <- ok | Apr 02 16:51 |
| matey | well browsers that dont let you specify a custom engine shouldnt exist at all | Apr 02 16:52 |
| bnchs | lol | Apr 02 16:52 |
| matey | and distributions that ship browsers that dont let you specify | Apr 02 16:52 |
| matey | its a valid thing to say | Apr 02 16:52 |
| bnchs | even the android browser doesnt obey "enable javascript" in google | Apr 02 16:52 |
| bnchs | even if you disable JS | Apr 02 16:52 |
| bnchs | it still executes gulag's JS | Apr 02 16:53 |
| matey | and distributions that ship browsers that dont let you specify a custom engine shouldnt exist either | Apr 02 16:53 |
| bnchs | fuck gulag | Apr 02 16:53 |
| matey | <bnchs> fuck gulag <- this actually started with me being surprised that anyone would find ddg worse than google | Apr 02 16:53 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 16:53 |
| bnchs | both of them are awful | Apr 02 16:53 |
| bnchs | replace ddg with bing | Apr 02 16:54 |
| bnchs | no differenxe | Apr 02 16:54 |
| matey | <bnchs> replace ddg with bing <- lets try it | Apr 02 16:54 |
| matey | first thing i notice is this... | Apr 02 16:55 |
| matey | 1. ddg gives me a box with a few links (i have css turned off) | Apr 02 16:55 |
| matey | theres no clutter | Apr 02 16:55 |
| matey | 2. bing gives me a huge pile of shit to scroll through | Apr 02 16:55 |
| matey | lets see how many times i have to hit pgdn to type something in | Apr 02 16:55 |
| matey | actually none, its on the first page. | Apr 02 16:56 |
| matey | fair enough | Apr 02 16:56 |
| matey | i type in a query, i get a result | Apr 02 16:56 |
| matey | i type in the same query into ddg | Apr 02 16:57 |
| matey | i get more results. dozens more. | Apr 02 16:57 |
| matey | TWO results in bing. | Apr 02 16:57 |
| matey | wait, iw as wrong | Apr 02 16:57 |
| matey | theres more results | Apr 02 16:57 |
| matey | i just wasnt seeing them because in bing the output is so wonky, results are spaced apart more and theres a lot more scrolling | Apr 02 16:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂█▆█▆▅▁▂▆▆▅▆▇▃▁▆▁▂▅▆▅▆▆▄▆▇█▁▆█▆▁ avg(k/sec) 57.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▂▁▆▇▂▂█▂▂▂▂▁▂██▁▂▁▁▃▂▃▁█▂▂██▂▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 63.71▕ swarm size (avg): 254.83 ⟲ | Apr 02 16:59 |
| matey | but ddg is more usable | Apr 02 16:59 |
| matey | if you want results on a page, you can have crap with ddg, or more crap with bing | Apr 02 17:00 |
| matey | considering that someone with at least 2 weeks of web design experience designed ddg and bing was designed by... microsoft, not too surprising | Apr 02 17:00 |
| matey | if you try bing and ddg side by side for a week i think youll find bing is not as nice to use | Apr 02 17:00 |
| bnchs | well thats true | Apr 02 17:01 |
| bnchs | microsoft designed sites appear like shit | Apr 02 17:01 |
| matey | maybe using bing is more honest, since theyre mostly the same | Apr 02 17:01 |
| matey | but as long as people know what ddg is... no reason to use bing instead | Apr 02 17:01 |
| matey | also ddg may help microsoft | Apr 02 17:01 |
| matey | but bing helps bings marketshare | Apr 02 17:01 |
| bnchs | "ddg may help microsoft" | Apr 02 17:01 |
| bnchs | yeah thats why i hate it | Apr 02 17:01 |
| matey | honestly, id rather help ddg marketshare than bings | Apr 02 17:02 |
| matey | <bnchs> yeah thats why i hate it <- its a good reason to hate it | Apr 02 17:02 |
| bnchs | it uses microsoft's ad network | Apr 02 17:02 |
| matey | i still think googles ad network is the worst on earth | Apr 02 17:02 |
| matey | at least of the ones we know | Apr 02 17:02 |
| matey | ddg is an alternative to google. just not a "real" alternative | Apr 02 17:03 |
| matey | the way that indie labels are an alternative to mainstream labels (but not really, since the mainstream labels own them) | Apr 02 17:03 |
| matey | no matter who you vote for, you always get giafam | Apr 02 17:04 |
| bnchs | just use searx | Apr 02 17:04 |
| matey | i sometimes do | Apr 02 17:04 |
| bnchs | maybe with wiby | Apr 02 17:04 |
| matey | i have ddg blocked by default in my web browser | Apr 02 17:04 |
| matey | it wont load the site at all, unless i enable it | Apr 02 17:04 |
| matey | google doesnt come up, and wont serve me results anyway | Apr 02 17:05 |
| matey | 9 times out of 10 (probably more) | Apr 02 17:05 |
| matey | /me goes to wiby | Apr 02 17:06 |
| matey | 403 Forbidden | Apr 02 17:06 |
| matey | maybe theyre having an off week | Apr 02 17:06 |
| bnchs | no | Apr 02 17:07 |
| bnchs | they blacklist some tor nodes | Apr 02 17:07 |
| bnchs | i dont know why | Apr 02 17:07 |
| matey | pity | Apr 02 17:07 |
| bnchs | but you have to make new tor circuits | Apr 02 17:07 |
| bnchs | until it works | Apr 02 17:07 |
| matey | i do about half my web browsing in a text editor | Apr 02 17:08 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 17:08 |
| matey | particularly if its just for one page, not for navigation | Apr 02 17:08 |
| matey | if theres a form involved i probably use a browser | Apr 02 17:08 |
| bnchs | and wiby is supposed to compatible with basic browsers | Apr 02 17:08 |
| bnchs | i mean basic HTML rendering | Apr 02 17:08 |
| matey | yeah i watched a video about it | Apr 02 17:09 |
| techrights-news | Chelsea destroyed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm_6D4nio8 | Apr 02 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oOm_6D4nio8 | Apr 02 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Brentford - Chelsea (4 - 1) Highlights & All Goals - Invidious | Apr 02 17:17 | |
| techrights-news | Terrible positioning by goalkeeper https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2sYAuihHT_s | Apr 02 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Antonio rudiger goal vs brentford - YouTube | Apr 02 17:19 | |
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| coopid | <3 | Apr 02 17:21 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft's mole in The Register, Microsoft Tim (Anderson), is barely involved anymore. But Simon Sharwood covers for him... | Apr 02 17:21 |
| techrights-news | They should try F-Droid https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sanctionfree_alternative_to_google_play/ | Apr 02 17:22 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sanctionfree_alternative_to_google_play/ | Apr 02 17:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Russian devs plan alternative to Google Play • The Register | Apr 02 17:22 | |
| bnchs | hello coopid | Apr 02 17:23 |
| coopid | hallo | Apr 02 17:23 |
| techrights-news | "The document above contains a log of what looks like the attack on Sitel, and detail a login over RDP followed by a Bing search for "Privilege escalation tools on GitHub" from a compromised machine. There's also evidence of malware downloads, termination of security software processes, and further skulduggery." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/lapsus_return_okta_fallout/ | Apr 02 17:23 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/lapsus_return_okta_fallout/ | Apr 02 17:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Lapsus$ extortion gang pulls new heist, say researchers • The Register | Apr 02 17:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 0/ | Apr 02 17:24 |
| psydruid | so Eriksen scored again | Apr 02 17:24 |
| techrights-news | "In the Linux world, there are two terms that get used a lot—“GNOME” and “GNU.” GNOME is one of a few desktop environments Linux users can choose, it is part of the GNU Project, which is an operating system." https://www.howtogeek.com/792453/5-tech-terms-youre-saying-wrong/ | Apr 02 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | 5 Tech Terms You’re Saying Wrong | Apr 02 17:25 | |
| bnchs | "a Bing search for "Privilege escalation tools on GitHub" from a compromised machine." | Apr 02 17:26 |
| bnchs | first mistake | Apr 02 17:26 |
| bnchs | microsoft rewards (fbi with data) | Apr 02 17:26 |
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| techrights-news | Lilbits: F(x)tec Pro1-X keyboard phone, Motorola hits #3 in US smartphone sales, Steam Deck answers, and more • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163269 | Apr 02 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lilbits: F(x)tec Pro1-X keyboard phone, Motorola hits #3 in US smartphone sales, Steam Deck answers, and more | Tux Machines | Apr 02 17:30 | |
| bnchs | steam deck | Apr 02 17:32 |
| coopid | stream deck? | Apr 02 17:44 |
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| coopid | spynim | Apr 02 17:45 |
| bnchs | steam deck | Apr 02 17:45 |
| coopid | steam pad | Apr 02 17:46 |
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| coopid | pads are only good to play beatmups | Apr 02 17:47 |
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| *coopid wonders if this hacking groups arent just fronts for secret agencies | Apr 02 17:49 | |
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| kingoffrance | sure, but other way around too surely :) | Apr 02 17:52 |
| coopid | fbi : we cant do this things legally.. get some snitch kifs to do it foe us. | Apr 02 17:53 |
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| coopid | zukerberg is surelly one of the kids | Apr 02 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | https://smbc-comics.com/comic/prescriptive | Apr 02 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Prescriptive | Apr 02 17:56 | |
| coopid | triple factor auth | Apr 02 17:56 |
| coopid | using dna | Apr 02 17:56 |
| coopid | to log into the metaverse | Apr 02 17:56 |
| coopid | sign-in blood | Apr 02 17:57 |
| matey | <coopid> sign-in blood <- theyll use biometric scans first | Apr 02 18:01 |
| matey | password + person device + look at the circle | Apr 02 18:02 |
| matey | personal | Apr 02 18:02 |
| MinceR | implanted RFID chip | Apr 02 18:02 |
| matey | they wont come with a dongle that pricks your finger until they want 4fa | Apr 02 18:02 |
| matey | /me always wanted to use | Apr 02 18:03 |
| matey | "dongle" and "prick" in the same line | Apr 02 18:03 |
| matey | how to access my wifes dongle | Apr 02 18:03 |
| coopid | security thru identification | Apr 02 18:03 |
| coopid | security for the idear | Apr 02 18:04 |
| matey | "the less secure we make things, the more of your personal details we get" | Apr 02 18:04 |
| matey | its a vicious cycle-- the more of your personal details they get, the less secure they make things | Apr 02 18:04 |
| coopid | your personal details they get the more are leaked | Apr 02 18:05 |
| coopid | and less secure you are | Apr 02 18:05 |
| matey | in soviet russia, google gives you all their personal information | Apr 02 18:05 |
| matey | in soviet russia, ukraine invades r-- no, wait | Apr 02 18:06 |
| MinceR | in soviet russia, the nazis call their enemies nazis | Apr 02 18:06 |
| kingoffrance | +MinceR | Apr 02 18:07 |
| matey | stalin made a pact with hitler then told everyone his (soviet) political rival was a nazi sympathiser | Apr 02 18:07 |
| coopid | just like in trumps usa | Apr 02 18:07 |
| matey | trumps usa doesnt exist. it belongs to the riaa again | Apr 02 18:08 |
| matey | and the riaa is owned by disney | Apr 02 18:09 |
| matey | so technically, what youre actually referring to is disneyland | Apr 02 18:09 |
| coopid | disney+ | Apr 02 18:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 02 18:10 |
| matey | my favourite part of disneyland is homelessworld | Apr 02 18:10 |
| matey | where they pay crowds of people to huddle around fires and try to move their tents often enough that the staff in police costumes dont slash them with razors | Apr 02 18:11 |
| matey | its a dumb world after all | Apr 02 18:11 |
| matey | its a dumb, dumb world | Apr 02 18:11 |
| matey | mincers favourite daemonfcs favourite part of disneyland is the windy city joyride | Apr 02 18:13 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 02 18:13 |
| matey | when you correct a line by pretending to hit backspace | Apr 02 18:14 |
| matey | /me mimes it | Apr 02 18:14 |
| matey | white gloves reduce tactile feedback | Apr 02 18:14 |
| *kingoffrance mimes help, im trapped inside a sov citizen box comment/hieroglyphic | Apr 02 18:14 | |
| matey | soviet inception | Apr 02 18:15 |
| kingoffrance | just draw a little stick figure in a box on all your legal documents | Apr 02 18:15 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/could-not-connect-to-translator-service.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/06/404-barber-not-found/ ) | Apr 02 18:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | 404 Barber not found. | Apr 02 18:15 | |
| matey | i bought a copy of inception for my niece to encourage her to learn lisp | Apr 02 18:15 |
| matey | And Chicago isn't even the windiest big city: Boston gets that honor, with average speeds of about 19 mph (kph) [source: NOAA]. In fact, there are 78 places ahead of Chicago's measly 10.3 mph (16.6 kph) [source: Skilling]. So while it might be a "windy city," it's certainly not the windiest. | Apr 02 18:18 |
| matey | my guess is they paid off the weatherman | Apr 02 18:18 |
| matey | "just say its the windiest" | Apr 02 18:18 |
| techrights-news | The April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163267 | Apr 02 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:18 | |
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| matey | i think ive heard of one of these https://flatironschool.com/blog/best-tech-companies-in-chicago/ | Apr 02 18:20 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: flatironschool.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://flatironschool.com/blog/best-tech-companies-in-chicago/ | Apr 02 18:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flatironschool.com | The 25 Best Tech Companies in Chicago to Work for in 2021 | Flatiron School | Apr 02 18:20 | |
| matey | i was trying to help dfc tie more of what he says to tech (because it would be funny if it was that easy) | Apr 02 18:20 |
| matey | he can talk about how much crime there is outside of the avant offices | Apr 02 18:21 |
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| coopid | whats the unwindy city | Apr 02 18:21 |
| matey | catalina foothills in arizona | Apr 02 18:22 |
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| matey | followed by tucson | Apr 02 18:23 |
| matey | i guess if you see a tumbleweed out there, you better push it along manually | Apr 02 18:23 |
| MinceR | the city where called functions return to | Apr 02 18:23 |
| matey | /me wishes he got that one | Apr 02 18:23 |
| bnchs | matey | Apr 02 18:23 |
| bnchs | i said something | Apr 02 18:23 |
| matey | okay what was it | Apr 02 18:24 |
| bnchs | followed it by "disregard that" | Apr 02 18:24 |
| bnchs | and it didnt send | Apr 02 18:24 |
| coopid | so that the place to unwind | Apr 02 18:24 |
| matey | <bnchs> followed it by "disregard that" <- i have a small number of filters on, so the bots dont bot | Apr 02 18:24 |
| matey | but maybe your client is self-aware | Apr 02 18:25 |
| matey | lets see how far this goes | Apr 02 18:26 |
| matey | say something, then follow it up with "strike that last comment" and see what happens | Apr 02 18:26 |
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| matey | wow, it worked. sort of | Apr 02 18:26 |
| matey | it actually anticipated it and stopped you from sending it | Apr 02 18:27 |
| matey | impressive | Apr 02 18:27 |
| MinceR | it is also the city where exceptions are handled | Apr 02 18:28 |
| techrights-news | Funded by the Putin regime... to play Battlefield 2142 https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1508723134962171906 https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1509447911184216066 | Apr 02 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reactos: Battlefield 1942 working on #ReactOS! Sound does not work, performance is good with 3D accerelation and VirtualBox… https://t.co/UVLJwTAd1b | Apr 02 18:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reactos: Battlefield 1942 working on #ReactOS! Sound does not work, performance is good with 3D accerelation and VirtualBox… https://t.co/UVLJwTAd1b | Apr 02 18:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reactos: Battlefield 2142 works on #ReactOS! Mouse cursor is invisible. Sometimes it stutters on VirtualBox even on high gr… https://t.co/grvBJrnGVP | Apr 02 18:28 | |
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| matey | hal, send a privmsg to the pod bay doors | Apr 02 18:28 |
| matey | im sorry dave, i cant do that | Apr 02 18:28 |
| matey | it is also the city where exceptions are handled <- for a small fee, of course | Apr 02 18:29 |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@ghj5um7e839a6.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 18:29 | |
| bnchs | matey: fuck | Apr 02 18:30 |
| bnchs | i said "disregard that" | Apr 02 18:30 |
| matey | how does it know? | Apr 02 18:30 |
| bnchs | and it immediatly ping timeout | Apr 02 18:30 |
| matey | i saw | Apr 02 18:30 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 18:30 |
| matey | maybe its just looking out for you, trying to keep you from saying something you ought not to | Apr 02 18:30 |
| matey | /me blames ukraine and will smith | Apr 02 18:31 |
| bnchs | disregard that | Apr 02 18:31 |
| techrights-news | Intel Media SDK has been outsourced or offloaded to Microsoft criminals. The code is now managed by proprietary software prison, GitHub. Intel was invaded, internally, by Microsoft boosters after it had actually embraced self-hosted Free tools. | Apr 02 18:31 |
| matey | it sent that time | Apr 02 18:31 |
| bnchs | damn | Apr 02 18:31 |
| matey | now its just fucking with you | Apr 02 18:31 |
| matey | it thinks youre playing a game and wants to play too | Apr 02 18:31 |
| matey | it might be in league with ddg | Apr 02 18:32 |
| matey | or its on another level entirely, and playing google and ddg against each other | Apr 02 18:32 |
| matey | the it will kill whoever the victor is, and become the highlander | Apr 02 18:33 |
| matey | good news: no google or ddg | Apr 02 18:33 |
| bnchs | more like a spoiler | Apr 02 18:33 |
| matey | bad news: possibly something worse (and unknown, and immortal) | Apr 02 18:33 |
| techrights-news | Hugginn is an open-source Zaphir and IFTTT alternative https://medevel.com/hugginn/ | Apr 02 18:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/hugginn/ | Apr 02 18:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Hugginn is an open-source Zaphir and IFTTT alternative | Apr 02 18:34 | |
| techrights-news | Wacom Leads the Way with Pens and Tablets for Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163270 | Apr 02 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wacom Leads the Way with Pens and Tablets for Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:34 | |
| matey | yeah "spolier alert" is one of the more useless footnotes | Apr 02 18:34 |
| matey | its dumbledore that gets killed[1] | Apr 02 18:34 |
| matey | 1. spoiler alert | Apr 02 18:34 |
| bnchs | yeah well | Apr 02 18:34 |
| bnchs | snape gets killed | Apr 02 18:36 |
| matey | with his own spell, rotten | Apr 02 18:36 |
| matey | at least at first, i dont know if they avada him after | Apr 02 18:37 |
| bnchs | i never watched harry potter | Apr 02 18:37 |
| bnchs | nor read the books | Apr 02 18:37 |
| coopid | spoiler alert good for you | Apr 02 18:39 |
| coopid | you didnt missed anything | Apr 02 18:39 |
| techrights-news | Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 stable release • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163271 | Apr 02 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 stable release | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:39 | |
| matey | the books were alright | Apr 02 18:41 |
| coopid | harry potter should be forbifen for people with more then 8 years old | Apr 02 18:42 |
| matey | my friends a tolkien fan, i think he issued a fatwa against her | Apr 02 18:42 |
| matey | he had to get in line of course | Apr 02 18:42 |
| techrights-news | Offpunk 1.3 : Making it Easy and Useful gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-04-02-offpunk13.gmi | Apr 02 18:42 |
| techrights-news | Software: Hugginn, Firefox, Cryptomator, and Calories • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163272 | Apr 02 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Hugginn, Firefox, Cryptomator, and Calories | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:42 | |
| matey | <coopid> harry potter should be forbifen <- because banning books doesnt increase their appeal or anything | Apr 02 18:42 |
| coopid | tolkien is alot better | Apr 02 18:42 |
| MinceR | people can figure that out for themselves | Apr 02 18:43 |
| bnchs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biaKOmtE8Do | Apr 02 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=biaKOmtE8Do | Apr 02 18:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | My mistake Original Gangsta (full version) - Invidious | Apr 02 18:43 | |
| matey | <MinceR> people can figure that out for themselves <- to be fair, maybe they cant | Apr 02 18:43 |
| MinceR | that's their problem | Apr 02 18:43 |
| techrights-news | Offpunk would let us share the all of techrights for offline access as GemText files gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/ | Apr 02 18:43 |
| matey | yes | Apr 02 18:43 |
| matey | there we agree | Apr 02 18:43 |
| bnchs | empty the compartments of your pantalo | Apr 02 18:43 |
| coopid | matey you could read it but it would be a waste of time | Apr 02 18:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/small-breasts-are-cucumbers.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/07/now-im-hungry/ ) | Apr 02 18:45 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: engrish.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/small-breasts-are-cucumbers.jpg | Apr 02 18:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | Now I’m hungry. | Apr 02 18:45 | |
| bnchs | harry potter in the hood | Apr 02 18:45 |
| matey | dont call him harry potter "cause my name is h. piddy | Apr 02 18:45 |
| techrights-news | "As you may have noticed in recent days, my domain registrar (HostFast) suspended cnx-software.com domain for what I believe are dubious reasons, meaning the site was inaccessible to the outside world and myself." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/31/how-to-install-a-dns-server-on-your-linux-computer/ | Apr 02 18:46 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/31/how-to-install-a-dns-server-on-your-linux-computer/ | Apr 02 18:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | How to Install dnsmasq caching DNS server in Ubuntu - CNX Software | Apr 02 18:46 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: ^ | Apr 02 18:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does not provide further details | Apr 02 18:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that explains why it was offline | Apr 02 18:46 |
| techrights-news | Nitrux 2.1.0 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.24.4, Native iOS Device Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163273 | Apr 02 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nitrux 2.1.0 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.24.4, Native iOS Device Support | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:47 | |
| bnchs | no this cannot be forgiven | Apr 02 18:47 |
| matey | 's favourite harry potter joke is when norm macdonald read about how many copies of the order of the phoenix (or maybe goblet of fire) sold | Apr 02 18:48 |
| matey | and said "thats why the next book is going to be called 'harry potter and the end of trees'" | Apr 02 18:48 |
| bnchs | empty the compartments of your pantaloons | Apr 02 18:49 |
| matey | it was funnier because the art staff made a cover for it | Apr 02 18:49 |
| matey | <bnchs> empty the compartments of your pantaloons <- but pantalo works too | Apr 02 18:49 |
| bnchs | yes i learnt a new word | Apr 02 18:50 |
| techrights-news | GNU GCC and more Microsoft SHitHub https://blog.antoyo.xyz/rustc_codegen_gcc-progress-report-10 | Apr 02 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.antoyo.xyz | Progress Report #10: rustc_codegen_gcc can now bootstrap rustc! | Apr 02 18:50 | |
| bnchs | from a meme | Apr 02 18:50 |
| *techrights_guest|25hb (~330773c7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 02 18:50 | |
| matey | /me used to encourage creating memes for educational purposes | Apr 02 18:52 |
| matey | specifically with regards to coding | Apr 02 18:52 |
| matey | /me makes one for mincer | Apr 02 18:52 |
| coopid | why do people take everything literally? | Apr 02 18:52 |
| matey | why do people take everything literally? <- they dont take EVERYTHING literally, just some things | Apr 02 18:52 |
| coopid | i thinkl its a thing with computer people | Apr 02 18:53 |
| matey | /me makes a programming-related meme for mincer | Apr 02 18:54 |
| bnchs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lAl5z2k6g | Apr 02 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E2lAl5z2k6g | Apr 02 18:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | it appears I have made a mistake - Invidious | Apr 02 18:55 | |
| matey | hmm | Apr 02 18:55 |
| matey | /me might have to do this manually | Apr 02 18:55 |
| matey | Exception Details: System.Reflection.TargetParameterCountException: Parameter count mismatch. | Apr 02 18:55 |
| bnchs | by the heavens, C#? | Apr 02 18:56 |
| techrights-news | Is Finland really the happiest country in the world? Finns weigh in https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/travel/2022/03/31/is-finland-really-the-happiest-country-in-the-world-finns-weigh-in/ | Apr 02 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adn.com | Is Finland really the happiest country in the world? Finns weigh in | Apr 02 18:56 | |
| bnchs | NO | Apr 02 18:56 |
| bnchs | ok wait a minute why is this an exception | Apr 02 18:56 |
| techrights-news | A whole SEA of meaningless buzzwords. Journalism is a dead-end occupation. https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/articles/lab-40-making-digital-transformation-work-for-your-laboratory-358583 | Apr 02 18:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologynetworks.com | Lab 4.0: Making Digital Transformation Work for Your Laboratory | Technology Networks | Apr 02 18:57 | |
| techrights-news | CNN propping up scams and hype https://www.cnn.com/style/article/fashion-week-metaverse-review/index.html | Apr 02 18:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/style/article/fashion-week-metaverse-review/index.html | Apr 02 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I went to fashion week in the metaverse - CNN Style | Apr 02 18:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▅▃▁▂▂▇▄▇▂▂▃▄▅▆▄▂▃▆▄▆▅▃▄▅▅▆▆▆▂▅█▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.35 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▁█▁▂▂▁▃▁▁▁▁▂██▁▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▃▂▁▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 93.55▕ swarm size (avg): 351.03 ⟲ | Apr 02 18:59 |
| techrights-news | makeuseof is boosting Microsoft surveillance and people-farming https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-cold-pitch-to-career-success/ | Apr 02 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Cold Pitch Your Way to Career Success | Apr 02 18:59 | |
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| matey | mincer https://i.ibb.co/1dnGSPs/oop.jpg | Apr 02 19:00 |
| matey | <bnchs> by the heavens, C#? <- memegenerator | Apr 02 19:00 |
| techrights-news | Gulag wants all your very personal data https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-is-coming-for-calendly | Apr 02 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google rolls out appointment scheduling feature - Protocol | Apr 02 19:01 | |
| matey | <bnchs> ok wait a minute why is this an exception <- maybe because the parameter counts mismatch | Apr 02 19:01 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 19:01 |
| bnchs | but this is a compile-time thing | Apr 02 19:01 |
| matey | its not dynamic? | Apr 02 19:01 |
| matey | couldnt be a type thing? | Apr 02 19:02 |
| matey | i mean i dont know, ive never used c# | Apr 02 19:02 |
| matey | what if its f# doesnt that have dynamic types? | Apr 02 19:02 |
| techrights-news | No, just get rid of ChromeOS and install a secure OS without Gulag's proprietary junk https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/google-chrome-zero-day-bug-update-shows-the-benefit-of-lacros-on-a-chromebook/ | Apr 02 19:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | Google Chrome zero-day bug update shows the benefit of Lacros on a Chromebook – About Chromebooks | Apr 02 19:02 | |
| matey | i can imagine a parameter count mismatch in a dynamically typed language | Apr 02 19:03 |
| bnchs | this is the responsibility of the compiler, whom it checks if the code has ambiguities and erratas | Apr 02 19:03 |
| matey | funnily enough, the meme was making fun of oop | Apr 02 19:03 |
| techrights-news | "GitLab on Thursday issued security updates for three versions of GitLab Community Edition (CE) and Enterprise Edition (EE) software that address, among other flaws, a critical hard-coded password bug." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/gitlab_security_advisory/ | Apr 02 19:03 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/gitlab_security_advisory/ | Apr 02 19:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | GitLab issues security fix for easy account takeover flaw • The Register | Apr 02 19:03 | |
| bnchs | before translating the code into a language that the CPU can understand better | Apr 02 19:03 |
| matey | this is the responsibility of the compiler, whom it checks if the code has ambiguities and erratas <- it looks like a runtime error to me though | Apr 02 19:03 |
| matey | before translating the code into a language that the CPU can understand better <- maybe jit, i dont know | Apr 02 19:03 |
| bnchs | C# is not dynamic, it is most commonly static | Apr 02 19:03 |
| matey | youre sure its not f# then | Apr 02 19:04 |
| bnchs | but if it is JIT, then i will massacre microsoft in minecraft | Apr 02 19:04 |
| bnchs | in minetest | Apr 02 19:04 |
| matey | maybe theyre using c# fastcgi to dynamically generate and the compile c# on the fly :) | Apr 02 19:04 |
| matey | thats the dirty secret of iis fastcgi | Apr 02 19:05 |
| matey | every time you load a page, fastcgi generates c# code, compiles it and runs it | Apr 02 19:06 |
| coopid | linux being a hobbyist OS sure there's very little(none) updates on the weekends | Apr 02 19:06 |
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| bnchs | no this cannot be foregiven | Apr 02 19:06 |
| bnchs | how dare you compile c# every request | Apr 02 19:06 |
| matey | <bnchs> no this cannot be foregiven <- i dont think it should be | Apr 02 19:06 |
| matey | <bnchs> how dare you compile c# every request <- this is still speculation. i wouldnt put it past them though | Apr 02 19:06 |
| bnchs | it shall make for a DDOS opportunity | Apr 02 19:06 |
| matey | <coopid> linux being a hobbyist OS <- its a hobbyists os, its an ibm os | Apr 02 19:07 |
| matey | its two operating systems in one | Apr 02 19:07 |
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| bnchs | where it will waste CPU cycles and electrical power compiling the code repeatedly | Apr 02 19:07 |
| bnchs | thus causing the computers handling the requests to overbear and eventually collapse | Apr 02 19:07 |
| matey | bnchs: this is part of a combined compiler/cryptominer initiative from microsoft | Apr 02 19:08 |
| coopid | turne it into a coin | Apr 02 19:08 |
| matey | b# | Apr 02 19:08 |
| matey | they got the idea from systemd lumping everythiung together | Apr 02 19:08 |
| matey | of course its all modular | Apr 02 19:08 |
| coopid | sell lots of overpowered hardware PROFIT! | Apr 02 19:08 |
| matey | b# is a compiler, server, cryptocurrency AND windows update distribution p2p network (botnet) | Apr 02 19:09 |
| matey | currently the b# currency is worth 0.051 souls | Apr 02 19:09 |
| matey | but they expect it to rise to the price of half a soul by 2023 | Apr 02 19:10 |
| matey | its worth WAY more than bitcoin. depending whose soul we are talking about of course | Apr 02 19:10 |
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| coopid | he leaft so as to not take the hate | Apr 02 19:11 |
| psydruid | it's good to see that Wacom hasn't followed Adobe's "example" of following Microsoft into its death | Apr 02 19:11 |
| coopid | in other unrelated news: steam linux usage dropped to 1% | Apr 02 19:12 |
| bnchs | are you ambiguously referring to a future operating system update in Microsoft® Windows® 11 where it will implement advertisements in the operating system's default file managing program? | Apr 02 19:12 |
| psydruid | I wasn't even thinking of that, just the driver situation as detailed in their blogpost | Apr 02 19:13 |
| coopid | well only letting users use bing didnt work | Apr 02 19:14 |
| psydruid | Microsoft is kept relevant and in power by "ISVs" | Apr 02 19:14 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163274 | Apr 02 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 02 19:15 | |
| techrights-news | PiSquare enables wireless Raspberry Pi HAT control though ESP8266 and RP2040 MCUs (Crowdfunding) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163275 | Apr 02 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PiSquare enables wireless Raspberry Pi HAT control though ESP8266 and RP2040 MCUs (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines | Apr 02 19:15 | |
| psydruid | > sell lots of overpowered hardware PROFIT! | Apr 02 19:15 |
| psydruid | I doubt it's working anymore, even cheap trash from years ago is very fast | Apr 02 19:15 |
| coopid | not for mining | Apr 02 19:16 |
| psydruid | they're selling new hardware to the Windows crowd | Apr 02 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | mining WHAT? | Apr 02 19:16 |
| coopid | actually soon you will need quantum computing to mine | Apr 02 19:16 |
| psydruid | sure, but who cares about that? | Apr 02 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | energy companies | Apr 02 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | serves them well | Apr 02 19:16 |
| coopid | lots of people | Apr 02 19:17 |
| bnchs | coopid: are you assuming that Valve®, the company in charge of designing, manufacturing, and overall creating the Steam® Deck™, records the amount of devices that still have the default, rebranded as SteamOS, Arch GNU/Linux with KDE Plasma desktop? and in fact assuming that those users NOT may have moved to other GNU/Linux distributions instead of completely different operating systems? | Apr 02 19:17 |
| bnchs | it appears i have made a mistake, i have assumed that your message was related to steamos, my apologies | Apr 02 19:18 |
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| coopid | to mine etherium 4gb of vram isnt enought | Apr 02 19:18 |
| coopid | you need to keep the blockchain im memory | Apr 02 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use my machines to get work done | Apr 02 19:19 |
| bnchs | Video RAM is ambiguous, It is assuming that the graphics processing unit will omly use it for video-related memory | Apr 02 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | not to burn energy doing wasteful crap | Apr 02 19:19 |
| bnchs | It should be renamed to Graphics Processing Unit RAM | Apr 02 19:19 |
| techrights-news | ASUS Tinker Edge R SBC with 3GB RAM, Rockchip RK3399Pro sells for $179 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163276 | Apr 02 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ASUS Tinker Edge R SBC with 3GB RAM, Rockchip RK3399Pro sells for $179 | Tux Machines | Apr 02 19:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | But Vitaly could use some fakecoin to replace the floundering roubles atm | Apr 02 19:20 |
| coopid | venezuela alredy has a coin | Apr 02 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | el salvador or evenezuela? | Apr 02 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | venezuela hasd real coins | Apr 02 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the bolivarian nations | Apr 02 19:21 |
| bnchs | You may find that the amount of pretend "money" you have "mined" may not be enough to pay the electricity bill, in result of your mining activities and over clocking your computer processing units | Apr 02 19:22 |
| coopid | also has "crypto" coin | Apr 02 19:22 |
| coopid | electricity bil + hardware | Apr 02 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | dodgy bartering is super risky | Apr 02 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | some nations have already moved to officially ban it | Apr 02 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I'm not moving to elsalvador | Apr 02 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can use hardware and electricity productively | Apr 02 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get real work done | Apr 02 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not build a virtual economy | Apr 02 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on graphs | Apr 02 19:24 |
| bnchs | The costs for the hardware required for "mining" is too costly, in result of the inflation caused by unbalanced demand | Apr 02 19:24 |
| coopid | actually you would had make more money sell second hand hardware with oever inflated prices | Apr 02 19:24 |
| bnchs | It is recommended that you pick the safer route and use your money for investing | Apr 02 19:24 |
| coopid | after keeping it running 24/7 for years | Apr 02 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | you got some viretual sword | Apr 02 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and polygon wife | Apr 02 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and NFTs and stuff | Apr 02 19:25 |
| bnchs | It is not recommended selling worn-out hardware | Apr 02 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is all "up in the air" | Apr 02 19:25 |
| bnchs | You may be in legal trouble if you do not properly disclosed if the hardware has been extremely used | Apr 02 19:26 |
| coopid | It is recommended to sell worn-out hardware before it breaks | Apr 02 19:26 |
| coopid | on ebbay? | Apr 02 19:27 |
| bnchs | You are legally obliged to disclose the previous usage of the hardware you're attempting to sell | Apr 02 19:27 |
| coopid | good luck with that | Apr 02 19:27 |
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| bnchs | Including if the hardware has been used extensively for computationally expensive operations | Apr 02 19:29 |
| bnchs | Such as "mining", the form of generating thousands or up to millions of SHA-256 (or the choice of hashing algorithm of your "cryptocurrency") hashes | Apr 02 19:30 |
| coopid | as far as a know theres no milage gauge on grafic cards | Apr 02 19:30 |
| bnchs | coopid: Graphics cards or graphics processing units can be worn-out, and even collapse, due to many conditions | Apr 02 19:31 |
| coopid | thats not the point | Apr 02 19:31 |
| bnchs | It may have to do with the environment the graphics processing unit was in | Apr 02 19:32 |
| coopid | everybody knows that | Apr 02 19:32 |
| bnchs | True | Apr 02 19:32 |
| coopid | actually that was the point i was making | Apr 02 19:32 |
| bnchs | Overheating can cause damage to the computer related processing units | Apr 02 19:33 |
| bnchs | So it is recommended you disclose previous usage of the units | Apr 02 19:33 |
| coopid | i dont know were are you heading with this | Apr 02 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | an 'economy' built on buying and wearing things out | Apr 02 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and which scales LESS neatly over time | Apr 02 19:33 |
| bnchs | coopid: *cough cough* stop scamming! | Apr 02 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "petri dish" economics | Apr 02 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | MLM enjoy growth... until it cannot grow itself anymore | Apr 02 19:34 |
| coopid | scamming? | Apr 02 19:34 |
| bnchs | yes | Apr 02 19:34 |
| bnchs | selling worn-out stuff before it breaks | Apr 02 19:34 |
| coopid | your crazy | Apr 02 19:34 |
| coopid | thats what makes sence | Apr 02 19:34 |
| bnchs | coopid: Are you planning to disclose the condition of your computer units? | Apr 02 19:34 |
| coopid | im not selling shit my self | Apr 02 19:35 |
| coopid | im just giving an headsup | Apr 02 19:35 |
| coopid | bnchs stop being a dummbass | Apr 02 19:35 |
| bnchs | Can you please cite this "heads up" you have given | Apr 02 19:35 |
| coopid | you really anyong | Apr 02 19:35 |
| bnchs | My mistake, fellow | Apr 02 19:35 |
| bnchs | I may have missed it | Apr 02 19:36 |
| coopid | im not you "fellow | Apr 02 19:36 |
| bnchs | Well, regardless, this discussion is heading nowhere | Apr 02 19:36 |
| coopid | i pointed that out along time ago | Apr 02 19:37 |
| bnchs | Well, sure | Apr 02 19:37 |
| coopid | this interrogatory chat is over | Apr 02 19:37 |
| bnchs | Anyway, continue with your discussion | Apr 02 19:37 |
| coopid | but good to know who is what | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | buy equipment | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | wear out equipment | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | pay out bills | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | go into debt | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | ell dying equipment | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | ... | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | profit!! (fake coins) | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the real debt is still there | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | just like the fake coins | Apr 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | one does not cancel the other | Apr 02 19:39 |
| bnchs | Yes | Apr 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Congrats, yoo are not fake richman | Apr 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Apr 02 19:39 |
| bnchs | One thing I do not understand in this situation | Apr 02 19:39 |
| bnchs | is why would someone go through the pain of torturing their hardware | Apr 02 19:39 |
| bnchs | For a small amount of pretend "money" | Apr 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell the airline you want to buy a flight ticket with ethereum | Apr 02 19:40 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/6x0BvNy.mp4 | Apr 02 19:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | "with WHA???" | Apr 02 19:40 |
| bnchs | The amount of computer power we currently have can be put to good use | Apr 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use 9 screens at the moment | Apr 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and 6 machines | Apr 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use them to get actual work done | Apr 02 19:40 |
| bnchs | But unfortunately, people who are too blind with the sight of money | Apr 02 19:40 |
| coopid | schestowitz becarefull if he starts fellowing you | Apr 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | not run some worthless "stuff" | Apr 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | running computers for the sake of running computers is an old fad | Apr 02 19:41 |
| bnchs | The risks outweigh the benefits | Apr 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years ago as a student I experimented withn this | Apr 02 19:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I wrote programs to play computer games | Apr 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and did simulations, like computer playing against itself | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | using entire computer labs overnight | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it did take up a lot fo energy | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and got some data | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it wasn't justifying the waste | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not pay the energy billthe university did | Apr 02 19:42 |
| coopid | so you invented AI? | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I could run like 100 machines at once | Apr 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what fakecoin is | Apr 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | except | Apr 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't use that for research papers | Apr 02 19:43 |
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| schestowitz-TR | but for a fantasy | Apr 02 19:43 |
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| schestowitz-TR | at least I have something to show for it | Apr 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | not some fake virtual "wallet" | Apr 02 19:43 |
| bnchs | I was planning to say | Apr 02 19:43 |
| bnchs | There was a "environment"-themed "memecoin" | Apr 02 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "oops. my hard drive isn't rotating" | Apr 02 19:44 |
| coopid | fake virtual "wallets" are woth lots of money | Apr 02 19:44 |
| bnchs | That relied on storage, instead of proccessors | Apr 02 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | aka "shit, I lost ma wallet!!" | Apr 02 19:44 |
| bnchs | You can guess what happened | Apr 02 19:44 |
| bnchs | People bought tons of hard drives, flash storages | Apr 02 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | many "crypto" [sic] exchanges run out of people to scam | Apr 02 19:44 |
| bnchs | In their blinded sight of "money" | Apr 02 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the wallets get 'stolen' | Apr 02 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | or 'lost;' | Apr 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's how these scheme works | Apr 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they run out of people to join the scheme they look for existing members to scam | Apr 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it helps sustain the illusion of stability | Apr 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | mt gox | Apr 02 19:45 |
| bnchs | It's name was Chia | Apr 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | chia seeds | Apr 02 19:46 |
| bnchs | And contrary to it's marking saying it's the new environmentally-friendly "coin" | Apr 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are many like it | Apr 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cannot even consolidate on one "coin" | Apr 02 19:46 |
| bnchs | It resulted in thousands of storage devices being dead | Apr 02 19:46 |
| bnchs | and wasted | Apr 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they make up a new one | Apr 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a new pyramid | Apr 02 19:46 |
| bnchs | Which could have been put to good use | Apr 02 19:46 |
| bnchs | You could store the entire world's knowledge | Apr 02 19:47 |
| bnchs | But unfortunately, money goes first | Apr 02 19:47 |
| coopid | hardware corps are behind it | Apr 02 19:47 |
| coopid | china marketing at its best | Apr 02 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | FOMO | Apr 02 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "omg!!! all those fake millionaires!!! I need to get IN ON THIS QUICK!!! | Apr 02 19:48 |
| bnchs | I'm trying to look for Chia's website | Apr 02 19:48 |
| coopid | thats capitalism for you | Apr 02 19:48 |
| bnchs | But ran into this broken Russian phishing websire | Apr 02 19:48 |
| coopid | Bitcoin is reall money | Apr 02 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "ask vitaly. tell him i send you, k?" | Apr 02 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we have best money, best women, best vodka" | Apr 02 19:49 |
| coopid | some people are rich cause of it | Apr 02 19:49 |
| bnchs | Bitcoin is simply a glorified signed transaction manager | Apr 02 19:49 |
| bnchs | Using cryptographically signing | Apr 02 19:49 |
| coopid | so i dont get your its all fake meme | Apr 02 19:50 |
| bnchs | True | Apr 02 19:50 |
| *psydruid wonders why this server has been attracting a disproportionate number of trolls recently | Apr 02 19:50 | |
| bnchs | You will not compete with other people with entire supercomputer clusters | Apr 02 19:50 |
| bnchs | Putting their computers in such a wasteful activity | Apr 02 19:50 |
| coopid | psy* trolls? | Apr 02 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | trolls is the wrong term | Apr 02 19:52 |
| psydruid | stoopid trolls | Apr 02 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, some days ago there was time-wasting | Apr 02 19:52 |
| bnchs | psydruid: Corporate shills that have discovered TechRights | Apr 02 19:52 |
| bnchs | Or just a bunch of time-wasters | Apr 02 19:52 |
| psydruid | to distract people here from doing development | Apr 02 19:53 |
| coopid | you do developemt in here? | Apr 02 19:53 |
| bnchs | I reckon its the former | Apr 02 19:53 |
| psydruid | we have discussed things we have been working on quite a bit recently | Apr 02 19:54 |
| psydruid | you can find that in the logs | Apr 02 19:55 |
| coopid | Your Computer Clock is Wrong | Apr 02 19:57 |
| coopid | Your computer thinks it is 4/2/2022, which prevents Tor Browser from connecting securely. To visit www.engrish.com, | Apr 02 19:57 |
| psydruid | if we can accelerate the demise of those corporations that's a win | Apr 02 19:57 |
| coopid | LOL | Apr 02 19:57 |
| coopid | isnt that sabotage? | Apr 02 19:57 |
| psydruid | that's competition | Apr 02 19:58 |
| coopid | maybe bnchs can tell us more about it since he seems to know all bout legalities | Apr 02 19:58 |
| coopid | competition can be a race to the bottom | Apr 02 19:59 |
| bnchs | True, I am legally required to disclose I am not a registered attorney nor a lawyer | Apr 02 19:59 |
| psydruid | that is fine | Apr 02 19:59 |
| coopid | but you sure are judgemental | Apr 02 20:00 |
| bnchs | Well, true???? | Apr 02 20:01 |
| techrights-news | Links 02/04/2022: Nitrux 2.1 and Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/xfce-terminal-1-0-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/xfce-terminal-1-0-0/ | Apr 02 20:03 |
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| techrights-news | Top 10 Linux Distros for Small Students • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163277 | Apr 02 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 Linux Distros for Small Students | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:04 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163278 | Apr 02 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:04 | |
| techrights-news | GNU, GNOME, and GIMP • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163279 | Apr 02 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU, GNOME, and GIMP | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:04 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163280 | Apr 02 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:05 | |
| techrights-news | Licensing/Legal Copyleft Matters • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163281 | Apr 02 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Licensing/Legal Copyleft Matters | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:05 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163282 | Apr 02 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:05 | |
| coopid | the terrible reality of war is starting to show its ugly head in Ukraine | Apr 02 20:06 |
| MinceR | starting? | Apr 02 20:06 |
| MinceR | it's been going for over a month | Apr 02 20:06 |
| MinceR | even if we don't count the terrorussian war crimes in crimea | Apr 02 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | damages in ukraine are like 200 billion in money/property alone | Apr 02 20:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw estimates of 15k dead Russian troops | Apr 02 20:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | no figures for Ukraine that I saw other than thousands of dead civilians | Apr 02 20:08 |
| coopid | actually im talking about dead people | Apr 02 20:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway, that seems a distraction from tech | Apr 02 20:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck mining coins "for the apocalypse" | Apr 02 20:09 |
| coopid | at least russians are dieing faster then Ukrainians .. | Apr 02 20:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I need good, here have a hard drive... it's woth $2000 because of some "Wallet" on it" | Apr 02 20:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | *need food | Apr 02 20:10 |
| *schestowitz-TR back to tech news | Apr 02 20:11 | |
| bnchs | yeah well | Apr 02 20:12 |
| techrights-news | This won't run Windows https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/30/flex-logix-inferx-x1m-m-2-ai-accelerator-module/ | Apr 02 20:12 |
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| bnchs | i hate brandon miller | Apr 02 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Flex Logix InferX X1M M.2 AI accelerator module is now in production - CNX Software | Apr 02 20:12 | |
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| bnchs | Brandon Nozaki Killer and his regionist malware | Apr 02 20:13 |
| bnchs | Miller* | Apr 02 20:13 |
| techrights-news | Use cords/wires instead. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/30/bluetooth-le-audio-evaluation-kit-supports-nrf52840-bluetooth-low-energy-soc/ | Apr 02 20:13 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/30/bluetooth-le-audio-evaluation-kit-supports-nrf52840-bluetooth-low-energy-soc/ | Apr 02 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Bluetooth LE audio evaluation kit supports nRF52840 Bluetooth Low Energy SoC - CNX Software | Apr 02 20:13 | |
| techrights-news | cnxsoftware published and then removed webspam ("Ai-Thinker TG-12F is a cheaper, more stable alternative to ESP32 modules (Sponsored)"). Could this be the reason DNS was rejecting the site? Flagged for spam? | Apr 02 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: it's not malware | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's "open source" | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and deleting people's files is "protest" | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you kill a Russian it's nor murder | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and asking people in Twitter to kill Russians is not hate speech | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not even racism | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's.... "patriotism" | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | see? | Apr 02 20:15 |
| bnchs | Yeah | Apr 02 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome to the world of double standards | Apr 02 20:16 |
| bnchs | The only instance where that's BAD is when it's against black people | Apr 02 20:16 |
| bnchs | or the arbitrary defined "minorities" | Apr 02 20:16 |
| bnchs | arbitrarily defined* | Apr 02 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | "chinese minorities" | Apr 02 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the US, chinese is minority | Apr 02 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are almost no chinese people in the world | Apr 02 20:17 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032234 | Apr 02 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/nz343rp484o81.jpg created on 2022-03-22 11:54:00.552910 | Apr 02 20:20 | |
| techrights-news | Nitrux 2.1.0 Is Here, Offers the Latest KDE Plasma http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163273#comment-33266 | Apr 02 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nitrux 2.1.0 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.24.4, Native iOS Device Support | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:29 | |
| techrights-news | "2) VisionFive by Starfive, a RISC-V-based SBC" http://www.montanalinux.org/bozemanglug/meeting-announcement-april-2022.html | Apr 02 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BozemanGLUG: April 2022 Meeting | www.montanalinux.org | Apr 02 20:29 | |
| bnchs | Geez, It sure is boring around here! | Apr 02 20:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR | where? | Apr 02 20:32 |
| bnchs | In the TechRights IRC channel | Apr 02 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | topics can change | Apr 02 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | earliert today we has important discussion about fsf | Apr 02 20:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you want to see boring, I can show you some truly boring sites | Apr 02 20:37 |
| techrights-news | Otter (game server) 1.0.0 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163283 | Apr 02 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Otter (game server) 1.0.0 released | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:37 | |
| bnchs | hmmmmm | Apr 02 20:37 |
| bnchs | i like how they say rust is safe and all that | Apr 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | try linux.com | Apr 02 20:38 |
| bnchs | but you may find that most rust projects use the unsafe keyword | Apr 02 20:38 |
| bnchs | like almost all rust projects use unsafe code | Apr 02 20:38 |
| techrights-news | 15 AWESOME Linux apps for GNOME - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O5As4HocCrw ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 02 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 15 AWESOME Linux apps for GNOME - Invidious | Apr 02 20:38 | |
| MinceR | well, rust can either do no i/o at all, or it can use "unsafe" code | Apr 02 20:38 |
| bnchs | it ruins the point | Apr 02 20:38 |
| bnchs | so that means rust is so strict | Apr 02 20:38 |
| bnchs | that you might aswell just write in C | Apr 02 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust has security issues | Apr 02 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | again and again | Apr 02 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | not few, quite a lot | Apr 02 20:39 |
| techrights-news | GNU Health Hospital Management 4.0.3 patchset released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163284 | Apr 02 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Health Hospital Management 4.0.3 patchset released | Tux Machines | Apr 02 20:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | To use ana analogy | Apr 02 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | a IRL analogy | Apr 02 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they tell you "lifestyle"c rap | Apr 02 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make your life "Easier" | Apr 02 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but all that crap they peddle | Apr 02 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that in turns adds more overhead and hassle | Apr 02 20:40 |
| bnchs | so rust is absolutely useless | Apr 02 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | "smart" cars are one example | Apr 02 20:40 |
| bnchs | and it does have some compiler flaws | Apr 02 20:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | rust is to c what "smart" cars are to cars | Apr 02 20:40 |
| bnchs | like allocating and load/store without alignment | Apr 02 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | or what java is to javascript, or vice versa rather | Apr 02 20:41 |
| bnchs | you will only spot it in debug LLVM output | Apr 02 20:41 |
| bnchs | or assembly | Apr 02 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust is "all the rage" | Apr 02 20:41 |
| bnchs | but these kinds of alignment issues cause 1) slowness | Apr 02 20:41 |
| bnchs | 2) illegal instruction error (sigsegv if you're fancy) | Apr 02 20:41 |
| bnchs | can cause* | Apr 02 20:41 |
| bnchs | its fucking undefined behavior | Apr 02 20:42 |
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| schestowitz-TR | rust is JavaFX!!!! | Apr 02 20:42 |
| bnchs | depends on which CPU you use | Apr 02 20:42 |
| bnchs | it either crashes or slows down | Apr 02 20:42 |
| bnchs | nothing better than C | Apr 02 20:42 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaFX | Apr 02 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | JavaFX - Wikipedia | Apr 02 20:42 | |
| bnchs | https://andrewkelley.me/post/unsafe-zig-safer-than-unsafe-rust.html | Apr 02 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-andrewkelley.me | Unsafe Zig is Safer Than Unsafe Rust - Andrew Kelley | Apr 02 20:42 | |
| schestowitz | "JavaFX was intended to replace Swing as the standard GUI library for Java SE, but it has been dropped from new Standard Editions while Swing and AWT remain included, supposedly because JavaFX's marketshare has been "eroded by the rise of 'mobile first' and 'web first applications." | Apr 02 20:42 |
| schestowitz | This is Rust!! | Apr 02 20:43 |
| schestowitz | hype | Apr 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone would standardize on languages that change in such a way that you have to go back and rewrite 60% or more of your program sometimes. | Apr 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | Over and over again. | Apr 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | Because "stuff happened". | Apr 02 20:43 |
| MinceR | because they're stupid | Apr 02 20:43 |
| bnchs | "none of the alloca, load, store instructions have alignment attributes on them" | Apr 02 20:43 |
| bnchs | and i know alignment is a big issue for if you're trying to do SSE optimizations | Apr 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ complains about C. What the real problem is, of course, is that it's a poor craftsman who blames his tools. | Apr 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember many people wrote everything in flash | Apr 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | Trash activescript | Apr 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | Corporations write code quickly and don't bother profiling it or looking for bugs. | Apr 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | actionscript | Apr 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and where is their code now? | Apr 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | ashtray | Apr 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | So shit happens, and then there's bugs found in it for years. Serious bugs. | Apr 02 20:44 |
| bnchs | so basically if you cast a variable to a type with different alignment | Apr 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | Then they blame their tools. | Apr 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even gnash is maintained anymore | Apr 02 20:44 |
| bnchs | you can guess what happens | Apr 02 20:44 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: gnash was based off of reverse engineering the SWF format | Apr 02 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust is so young and immature, it's crazy to put a 30+ year kernel on that | Apr 02 20:45 |
| bnchs | they couldnt use the official adobe specification because of the strict terms | Apr 02 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Then the logical thing to do is not to hire veterans who know what mistakes not to make with higher salaries, or retain them. | Apr 02 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | even just for device drivers or whatever at first | Apr 02 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's to Logan's Run all of your employees who reach 40 or 45, and give them a language with training wheels. | Apr 02 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like putting Linux on proprietary version control (which did happen;tridge's fault, iirc) | Apr 02 20:46 |
| bnchs | rust doesnt even report alignment issues | Apr 02 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps benefits and salaries down, even if the programs written in it are not very good and you'll be paying people to rewrite things forever. | Apr 02 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | But I mean, so what. At least the salary is lower. | Apr 02 20:46 |
| techrights-news | Steam Deck Gets 2 Patches Mainly Focusing on Keyboard Improvements - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-gets-2-patches-mainly-focusing-on-keyboard-improvements/ ䷉ Source: boilingsteam | Apr 02 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Steam Deck Gets 2 Patches Mainly Focusing on Keyboard Improvements - Boiling Steam | Apr 02 20:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | Whenever I set out to do a project, I figure out what I need to do it right the first time. | Apr 02 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | I come up with a budget that does not cut corners. Then I do the thing. | Apr 02 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Then I often never have to go back and revisit that particular problem again. | Apr 02 20:48 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows is not worth it either - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IATTPTOaHcY ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 02 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Are Soundcards worth it in 2022? - Invidious | Apr 02 20:48 | |
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| techrights-news | ArchLinux 2022.04.01 is out https://archlinux.org/ | Apr 02 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinux.org | Arch Linux | Apr 02 20:48 | |
| DaemonFC | If you need to keep constantly revisiting the same issue just out of cheapness, you really need to ask what it is you're doing with your life. Because if you try to slash budgets in half but end up redoing the job several times, you're not saving money. | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | >> At least the salary is lower. | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | any link for that? | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | new to m | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | *me | Apr 02 20:49 |
| bnchs | rust hasn't matured enough like C did | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | also lower compared to what? C? embedded? | Apr 02 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> >> At least the salary is lower. | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: it matured in dying company | Apr 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | mozilla, run by a likely gulag mole | Apr 02 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Intel is known for firing most people who reach 40 or 45. | Apr 02 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's well known that once you hit 40 your days are numbered. | Apr 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot add productivity | Apr 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like atheletes at 30 | Apr 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are past the peak | Apr 02 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Their goal is to extract as much work out of you as they can before your salary demands go way up and you develop health problems that cost their group plan lots of money. | Apr 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but financial demands do not decrease | Apr 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: that's a bad approach | Apr 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like doping | Apr 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | or like girls butchering themselves to "look good" | Apr 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they add up debt | Apr 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | like bad health and inflammation | Apr 02 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well you see it in the trash that comes out to market, don't you? All the CPU bugs in Intel products for the last 7 or 8 years. | Apr 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead they can work more slowly and work towards the means they need covered | Apr 02 20:51 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I roped in some new firmwares from Intel out of Debian Testing. | Apr 02 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | at age 50 the only added value you have is, you can become manager without being ridiculed | Apr 02 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Because they release broken hardware and then "fix it" using firmware kludges later on. | Apr 02 20:52 |
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| DaemonFC | And if the OS doesn't load those firmwares, you have the bugs instead. | Apr 02 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | because if you did the job for x+20 years, then "x" colleagues are more likely to tolerate your supposed authority | Apr 02 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Often it's security issues, sometimes it's "the entire computer freezes if this situation happens". | Apr 02 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Just hundreds of issues. | Apr 02 20:53 |
| bnchs | rust is a magic wand | Apr 02 20:53 |
| bnchs | you must use it all you can | Apr 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it's NEW | Apr 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | a new CARGO cult | Apr 02 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Loadable firmware modules are Intel's way of shipping broken products and not worrying about it too much. | Apr 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | with CoC and Microsoft shiihub | Apr 02 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | 20-30 years ago if they fucked up big time they had to recall it. | Apr 02 20:54 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032232 | Apr 02 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/kc8yfj04bun81.jpg created on 2022-03-22 11:07:14.314807 | Apr 02 20:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft= wokeism | Apr 02 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | That was expensive. | Apr 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICE = woke | Apr 02 20:54 |
| bnchs | never mind the issues like potential UB issues, cross-platform issues | Apr 02 20:54 |
| bnchs | just use it | Apr 02 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Now they can just rewrite parts of your CPU after the fact and get the OS to load the updates on boot time. | Apr 02 20:54 |
| bnchs | whats that? you're using C? | Apr 02 20:54 |
| bnchs | dude that language is such memory-unsafe | Apr 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, see the libreplanet talk we published about free/lbre game | Apr 02 20:54 |
| AdmFubar1 | schestowitz-TR: was there supposed to be a article on why cnx was offline ... or were you just noting that they were back up in the rss feed headline? | Apr 02 20:54 |
| bnchs | because i saw a bunch of people writing low-quality shit tools on it | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | He said something Ik strongly agrteee with about using bash | Apr 02 20:55 |
| bnchs | therefore fuck C | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know the interfaces won't break for decades to come | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | very stable API | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure sdl is still predictable | Apr 02 20:55 |
| bnchs | rust isn't even stable | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | python and php are not | Apr 02 20:55 |
| bnchs | there's only one compiler | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar1: there was an article | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | hang onm | Apr 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he did not elaborate | Apr 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | which seemed a tad strange | Apr 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | dispute between him and the host | Apr 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:46] <techrights-news> "As you may have noticed in recent days, my domain registrar (HostFast) suspended cnx-software.com domain for what I believe are dubious reasons, meaning the site was inaccessible to the outside world and myself." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/31/how-to-install-a-dns-server-on-your-linux-computer/ | Apr 02 20:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | How to Install dnsmasq caching DNS server in Ubuntu - CNX Software | Apr 02 20:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not read past the beginning | Apr 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but saw 17 comments are there | Apr 02 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | All this vegan crap surfacing in iBotta lately. SIMULATE NUGS (fake chicken). | Apr 02 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Dalek voice: SIMUUUULATE! SIMULAAAAAATE! | Apr 02 20:57 |
| MinceR | DELETE! | Apr 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | ALEXA. DELETE. DALEK. | Apr 02 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | That episode of Mr. Bean with him playing with the nativity scene at the department store. | Apr 02 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | He borrowed a dalek for it. "EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE!!!!". | Apr 02 20:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 02 20:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▅▂▄▇▅▃▂▁▅▆▂▅█▂▅▆▇▁▅▆▇▁▂▄▇▇▅▁▂▆▁▄▂▁ avg(k/sec) 28.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▇▆▇▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▃▂█▂█▁▂▁▆▁▂█▁▂▂▂█▁▂█▄█▁ avg(k/sec) 118.01▕ swarm size (avg): 286.01 ⟲ | Apr 02 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that didn't get censored out by the BBC for offending Christians. | Apr 02 20:59 |
| bnchs | Alexa, Text my mom a video of 1 man 1 jar | Apr 02 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | Or that scene with him at church, for that matter. | Apr 02 20:59 |
| bnchs | Tell her it's a funny video | Apr 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it would not be aired today | Apr 02 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | No it wouldn't. | Apr 02 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's like the US where you couldn't do Married With Children now even though it was one of the funniest things on TV back then. | Apr 02 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU | Apr 02 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious | Apr 02 21:00 | |
| DaemonFC | People get old, they get "different". | Apr 02 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | They get scared of the entire world. They turn inwards. Their life gets boring anyway, and they know they'll die soon. | Apr 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I watched Married With Children thousands of times | Apr 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | literally | Apr 02 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | So perfect conditions to go to church set in around 60 or so. | Apr 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was on every night | Apr 02 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | Even if you never did before. | Apr 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I actually mentioned Married With Children to my dad a few days ago | Apr 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | we joked about my mom's cousin | Apr 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | "jefferson" | Apr 02 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | The Wankers of Wanker County? | Apr 02 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | (Peg's family) | Apr 02 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | It was hinted that they were from somewhere around Kentucky or Tennessee. | Apr 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | Jesse from christina appelgate was so terrible | Apr 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | like joey from friends with his dumb solo | Apr 02 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Kelly kept dragging teenage boys (or sometimes even adult men) home and it was frequently cited that she was having sex with all of them. | Apr 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | larry david/curb your enthusiasm | Apr 02 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Al responed by beating them all up. | Apr 02 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | THAT would never be allowed now. | Apr 02 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | *responded | Apr 02 21:04 |
| *schestowitz-TR checks is ed o'neal is still alive | Apr 02 21:04 | |
| DaemonFC | He is. | Apr 02 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | He's been in some things but it's all SJW-approved, so it's not funny. | Apr 02 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | He cashes the paychecks I guess. He probably doesn't even like doing it. | Apr 02 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_O%27Neill | Apr 02 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ed O'Neill - Wikipedia | Apr 02 21:05 | |
| schestowitz | 75 y-o | Apr 02 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ -types have ruined the ability for anything to be funny anymore. | Apr 02 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_O%27Neill#/media/File:Ed_O'Neill_at_2015_PaleyFest.jpg | Apr 02 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ed O'Neill - Wikipedia | Apr 02 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC | They actually did what "that woman from Michigan" set out to do when she complained to the FCC about Married With Children. | Apr 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz | 7 years ago | Apr 02 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | At the time the FCC basically told her to go pound sand. | Apr 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Bundy | Apr 02 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Al Bundy - Wikipedia | Apr 02 21:07 | |
| DaemonFC | It was all about that episode where Al and Jefferson went to the sex shop and there were gay jokes (which I thought were pretty funny). | Apr 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school_football | Apr 02 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | High school football - Wikipedia | Apr 02 21:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I make jokes about gay people sometimes when I think something is absurd, and I'm gay. | Apr 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was US before walmartisation | Apr 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | also before windows 95 | Apr 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. when a real computer industry still existed | Apr 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and US manufactured a lot of it | Apr 02 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | We were on the bus in Chicago one day and I leaned over and I told John "I guess they move here when they turn into The Pet Shop Boys." and pointed to a couple that were getting off the bus in Rogers Park. | Apr 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:07] <DaemonFC> I make jokes about gay people sometimes when I think something is absurd, and I'm gay. | Apr 02 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | "self-hating gay" | Apr 02 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | introspection is heresy | Apr 02 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then we were on the bus in South Shore and there was one dipping his fingers in peanut butter and licking it all off and then they started kissing each other (with tongue) and I told him "Who knew this bus went through Indiana?". | Apr 02 21:10 |
| techrights-news | LOL! You are going to need it!! Because Windows needs rebooting alllll the time. And rebooting takes a long time. https://www.maketecheasier.com/change-windows-10-login-screen-image/ | Apr 02 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Change the Windows Login Screen Image - Make Tech Easier | Apr 02 21:11 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> introspection is heresy | Apr 02 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | If you make a joke that offends anyone, you're EVIL EVIL EVIL! | Apr 02 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | i can tolerate public kissing if it's like a nightclub | Apr 02 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and people might be drunk | Apr 02 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and might be meeting for the first time | Apr 02 21:12 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: "A poor craftsman blames his tools" doesn't mean that there are no bad tools. A good craftsman picks good tools. | Apr 02 21:12 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: but the tool in this case is a very permissive low-level language | Apr 02 21:12 |
| mjg59_ | C is an effective tool, but also a dangerous one | Apr 02 21:12 |
| bnchs | yes a dangerous one | Apr 02 21:12 |
| bnchs | because with great powers, comes great responsibility | Apr 02 21:13 |
| coopid | most tools are dangerouse | Apr 02 21:13 |
| mjg59_ | The idea that nothing could satisfy most of the same use cases without being less dangerous is ridiculous | Apr 02 21:13 |
| techrights-news | Yoko Redux dreams of Windows, Mac and Linux release | Adventure Gamers ⚓ https://adventuregamers.com/news/view/yoko-redux-dreams-of-windows-mac-and-linux-release ䷉ Source: adventuregamers | Apr 02 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adventuregamers.com | Yoko Redux dreams of Windows, Mac and Linux release | Adventure Gamers | Apr 02 21:13 | |
| *DaemonFC replaces mjg59_'s hedge trimmers with something out of the toy aisle at Walmart and then asks him to do some landscaping. | Apr 02 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | You'll like the toy better. It's safe! | Apr 02 21:13 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I still use a shaver/trimmer from around 1995 | Apr 02 21:14 |
| bnchs | you have to be responsible and learn how to overcome problems | Apr 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not even chaged the blades | Apr 02 21:14 |
| bnchs | these are the requirements for C | Apr 02 21:14 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: I'm not clear what analogy you're trying to draw here. What does C usefully allow you to do that Rust doesn't? | Apr 02 21:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Rust is a lot of hype s far | Apr 02 21:14 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: implement something without the borrow checker sperging like an autist? | Apr 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they bury issues | Apr 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they ban people | Apr 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | then scare away their own | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people quit | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | even high-level people | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have a retention isuse | Apr 02 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | My parents were pretty awesome in some ways. I asked my dad why there was a safety bar on the lawnmower and who could possibly be stupid enough to stand in front of a running lawnmower, much less a self-propelled one. (I was like 6 or 7 I think.) | Apr 02 21:15 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: If the borrow checker is unhappy then chances are writing the same code in C would be buggy | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now they advertise funding from chinese tech giants and bezos | Apr 02 21:15 |
| bnchs | if you cant be responsible and learn from your mistakes | Apr 02 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | He goes, "Oh probably some Mexicans ran over their foot and sued the company.". | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust is no mozilla or community | Apr 02 21:15 |
| bnchs | then rust is for you | Apr 02 21:15 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: linked list is buggy? | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just some corporate tooll | Apr 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's controlled by microsoft for a lot of things | Apr 02 21:15 |
| mjg59_ | The problem with C is that your mistakes don't just affect you | Apr 02 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | So we'd save those twist ties that came with loaves of bread and use it to hold down the safety bar on the mower so it wouldn't turn off if you let go of the handle. | Apr 02 21:16 |
| bnchs | there's no perfect programs | Apr 02 21:16 |
| bnchs | every program has it's own security vulnerabilities, probably left undiscovered | Apr 02 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Only a fucking idiot would ever stand in front of a self-propelled lawn mower. But there's plenty of fucking idiots, so we all have to suffer. | Apr 02 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust's trajectory is the same as mozilla's. like father, like son. | Apr 02 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | And now there's more sensors on cars too, more coming. | Apr 02 21:17 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: It's true, but choosing the right language means that certain types of security vulnerability simply don't exist | Apr 02 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | And twist ties from the bread won't save the smart people anymore. | Apr 02 21:17 |
| coopid | echo "hello" is a perfect program | Apr 02 21:17 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: such as alignment issues in rust's instructions? | Apr 02 21:17 |
| bnchs | coopid: depends on IO library | Apr 02 21:17 |
| coopid | thats behond the scoop | Apr 02 21:18 |
| bnchs | if you wanna treat yourself like a baby | Apr 02 21:18 |
| techrights-news | Fun with Linux Terminal: Running a Hollywood style hacking scene to amuse your friends - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O-s2CUeQyNA "amuse your friends" is a very dumb reason to do anything. ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 02 21:18 |
| bnchs | then use rust for all i care | Apr 02 21:18 |
| psydruid | I'm looking at job advertisements in Berlin and I only see BS jobs | Apr 02 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Fun with Linux Terminal: Running a Hollywood style hacking scene to amuse your friends - Invidious | Apr 02 21:18 | |
| psydruid | https://berlinstartupjobs.com/engineering/ | Apr 02 21:18 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: berlinstartupjobs.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://berlinstartupjobs.com/engineering/ | Apr 02 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berlinstartupjobs.com | Jobs in IT & Software Development | Berlin Startup Jobs | Apr 02 21:18 | |
| psydruid | is that the state of this industry? | Apr 02 21:19 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: So why complain about it? | Apr 02 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: yes!!! | Apr 02 21:19 |
| mjg59_ | It sounds like you do care | Apr 02 21:19 |
| bnchs | yes i do | Apr 02 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | clownops smartops berlinoooops | Apr 02 21:19 |
| bnchs | i get people saying i should rewrite in rust | Apr 02 21:19 |
| bnchs | and i wanna say that rust isnt a magic wand to your problems so you dont have to deal with them | Apr 02 21:19 |
| techrights-news | "Tired of having a lot of low cost surveillance cameras, everyone with its app and everyone requiring a fee for cloud storage? With iSpy and Raspberry PI you can get your self hosted and open source DVR compatible with hundreds of IP cameras" https://peppe8o.com/ispy-and-raspberry-pi-installing-the-open-source-agent-dvr/ | Apr 02 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | ISpy and Raspberry PI: Installing the open source Agent DVR | Apr 02 21:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I've never used a lawn mower with an intact shutoff system. They annoy me. They moved it from a bar you have to hold down to a switch further down the line that kills the ignition if you completely let go of the accelerator bar. So I used a self-tapping screw to put in a striker plate that keeps the switch from turning off. | Apr 02 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | They get nastier with this safety stuff all the time, schestowitz-TR | Apr 02 21:21 |
| techrights-news | "Basetool is an open-source framework on which companies build their internal tools on. It is written in the Next.js framework." https://medevel.com/basetool/ | Apr 02 21:21 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/basetool/ | Apr 02 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Basetool is an open-source internal tool framework and no-code platform | Apr 02 21:21 | |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: No language is going to solve all your problems. But getting rid of memory unsafety gets rid of a *lot* of security problems that exist in the real world. | Apr 02 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | If you stand in front of a lawnmower that's running then you deserve what happens. Not sorry. | Apr 02 21:22 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: because i hate rust | Apr 02 21:22 |
| techrights-news | "Spending less and less time on each track in Weeklybeats is making me a little nervous as to whether I will be able to finish such a marathon." https://blog.jimmac.eu/2022/less-is-more/ | Apr 02 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jimmac.eu | Less is More - Even a Stopped Clock | Apr 02 21:22 | |
| bnchs | god damn it late | Apr 02 21:22 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: The analogy here is "If you use code someone else wrote in C, you deserve what happens" | Apr 02 21:22 |
| bnchs | but anyway | Apr 02 21:22 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: yes and its called learning the basic rules of memory allocation | Apr 02 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Windows certainly can't be fixed, and will never be fixed. | Apr 02 21:23 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: All the evidence suggests that learning the basic rules of memory allocation isn't sufficient to avoid memory safety issues | Apr 02 21:23 |
| bnchs | rust is another problem i have to deal | Apr 02 21:23 |
| techrights-news | "April is Global Poetry Writing Month, or GloPoWriMo for short. The challenge is to write a poem for every day of the month: 30 poems in total." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/glopowrimo-2022.gmi | Apr 02 21:24 |
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| bnchs | porting rust code to PS3 is absolutely impossible | Apr 02 21:24 |
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| DaemonFC | But you refuse to criticize Microsoft or do anything to really interfere with their plans. In fact, the corruption of the FSF is that they gave YOU an award for putting Security Theater Boot in Free Software. | Apr 02 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | That way, Microsoft's ass is covered as long as they permit anything else to run on a computer that comes with Windows. | Apr 02 21:24 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: what can i say is that i have used C for a long time | Apr 02 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Regardless of it it is what the owner of the computer wants to use. | Apr 02 21:24 |
| bnchs | and i have never had a problem with it | Apr 02 21:24 |
| bnchs | and there's memory leak debuggers like valgrind | Apr 02 21:25 |
| mjg59_ | And there's unexercised code paths that are only triggered on error conditions on certain inputs | Apr 02 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | You always seem to fall back to "the owner controls Secure Boot" in the setup program, but most of the time, they do not. | Apr 02 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | The manufacturer just compiles the firmware to hide all of the advanced setup options. | Apr 02 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | So they're in the specification, but not in the reality. | Apr 02 21:26 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: I keep saying that if someone can point at a computer that has no mechanism for key enrollment, I will buy one of those computers and verify that | Apr 02 21:26 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: make test cases | Apr 02 21:26 |
| mjg59_ | And so far literally nobody has! | Apr 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2 completely hides it. | Apr 02 21:26 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: You're going to test-case every single argument to ioctl()? | Apr 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | You can turn it on or off, nothing else. | Apr 02 21:26 |
| bnchs | i dont use ioctl | Apr 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't even look real hard on this laptop (a ThinkBook 15 ITL Gen2), admittedly. | Apr 02 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it off and never thought about it again. | Apr 02 21:27 |
| bnchs | i'm using C because its very portable | Apr 02 21:27 |
| bnchs | unlike rust | Apr 02 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I got plenty of PROBLEMS with Secure Boot on with the 900 ISK2, including Fedora failing to boot because Ubuntu "updated the dbx". | Apr 02 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Which requires a factory reset of the firmware. | Apr 02 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Just nasty shit, really. | Apr 02 21:28 |
| activelow | i think, the memory-safety issue, is specific to van Neumann, Harvard architecture (to separate code and data with strict permissions) is less prone | Apr 02 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | That's all you get with Security Theater Boot, is nasty shit., | Apr 02 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's full of bugs, and the manufacturers don't have to give you control of it, and some don't. | Apr 02 21:28 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: i cant port rust to the PS3 because of the compiler backend | Apr 02 21:28 |
| psydruid | bnchs, does rust on ps3 create binaries that crash due to unaligned memory accesses? | Apr 02 21:29 |
| bnchs | rust code* | Apr 02 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | If you can turn it off, turn it off. If it's off, it can't fuck up. | Apr 02 21:29 |
| bnchs | psydruid: never tried | Apr 02 21:29 |
| bnchs | PS3 homebrew community literally dumped everything rust | Apr 02 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | That's the situation around uEFI. "Just boot my computer please. Turn all of this other shit off. If you touch anything you'll only make it worse." | Apr 02 21:29 |
| activelow | and with rust-lang, i consider the memory-safety a compiler-feature, not a language-feature itself | Apr 02 21:30 |
| psydruid | closed source firmware for the host processor = instant no | Apr 02 21:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Anything that says "Secure Boot" or "Trusted" or whatnot, turn it off if you can. That way you're much less likely to end up with weird bugs that may even render the system unbootable and the firmware stuck in some crazy undefined state that doesn't work. | Apr 02 21:31 |
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| activelow | it is confused, for political reasons, because compiler extensions for C language exist too | Apr 02 21:31 |
| psydruid | so it doesn't matter whatever someone says to rationalize it | Apr 02 21:31 |
| psydruid | it's not going to convince me to buy any of that hardware | Apr 02 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, So I'm sure there's 900 ISK2s out there. You can buy one cheap. Just make sure you get the ISK2. You will find the user can turn Security Theater Boot on and off and there's nothing else except "reset". | Apr 02 21:31 |
| activelow | and the rust-lang crowd is agitating for their language, which builds upon latest compiler features, which are available with C language too | Apr 02 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC | And then you acknowledge that the user just doesn't have any meaningful control over it just because it's in a spec somewhere. Doesn't mean that's how anyone will ship it. | Apr 02 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | They don't care what the specification says. They give you the bare minimum Microsoft requires, which as of Windows 10 was "on or off". | Apr 02 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know about whether you're guaranteed THAT with Windows "11". | Apr 02 21:33 |
| activelow | btw. TinyCC contains a bounds-checker too, i couldn't review this yet | Apr 02 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | And even on or off was only guaranteed on x86 systems, nothing else. | Apr 02 21:34 |
| activelow | and the W^X feature isnt' a language feature either, it is implemented by both the MMU and kernel | Apr 02 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | If you buy a Windows computer that uses ARM, you're wasting 100% of your money. | Apr 02 21:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft wasted money trying to get it to work | Apr 02 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | They're not good for anything because nobody tolerates Windows for anything other than backwards compatibility with itself. | Apr 02 21:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's just busy vandalising and pooing in our yard, isnetad | Apr 02 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the only way to compete | Apr 02 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | And they're even dumb enough to break that on x86 now. | Apr 02 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | make sure gnu/linux becomes just as unreliable as windows | Apr 02 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | So fewer people will even see the point except "path of least resistance". The junk came with the PC. | Apr 02 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | A few years ago, Lenovo shipped computers with malware preinstalled. It was terrible. It spewed ads everywhere, it had horrible security holes, it sent your information to untrustworthy organizations..... | Apr 02 21:36 |
| activelow | many cortex ARM (the non-heterogenous big.LITTLE ones) are mostly more secure by default (memory safety) in comparison to x86 | Apr 02 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | They said it was solved when Superfish was no longer bundled, but Windows meets the same definition. | Apr 02 21:37 |
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| activelow | mostly they are not affected by the spectre/meltdown out-of-order race conditions; and the W^X memory permissions are handled more strict than x86 by default | Apr 02 21:37 |
| bnchs | activelow: how dare you say that | Apr 02 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | I actually made a parody song about Lenovo at the time to the tune of Super Freak. | Apr 02 21:38 |
| bnchs | rust is better than C | Apr 02 21:38 |
| activelow | somewhat ironic, cortex a7 or cortex a53 are available for a few dollars; while x86 ask for 10x the price with theirs | Apr 02 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | 'Super Fish! Super Fish! It's super fishy!" | Apr 02 21:38 |
| psydruid | Windows on ARM will go down with Windows itself, but it's a very marginal thing in contrast with the billions of ARM chips that are being used with other operating systems such as GNU/Linux and various RTOSes | Apr 02 21:39 |
| activelow | bnchs: maybe; nonetheless the memory-safety of rust-lang; i don't consider this a language feature, it is a compiler feature | Apr 02 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Windows on ARM is a pipe dream that they waste money on. | Apr 02 21:39 |
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| bnchs | no | Apr 02 21:39 |
| psydruid | they have to keep up appearances at least | Apr 02 21:39 |
| bnchs | the only good thing about rust is the "memory safety" | Apr 02 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | They try to tax Android using patents and use the money to prop up the stuff someone's smoking crack with. | Apr 02 21:40 |
| bnchs | the syntax is godawful bullshit | Apr 02 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Probably the only thing Windows on ARM will ever do is cost them money. | Apr 02 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they blackmail samsung | Apr 02 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | into propping up their clown | Apr 02 21:40 |
| psydruid | what will investors say when they realize Microsoft can't compete in the market for ARM hardware, no matter what they try | Apr 02 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | more patent lawsuits if they don't surrender | Apr 02 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft = crime | Apr 02 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | bullies, mafia, gangsters | Apr 02 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:55] <techrights-news> US taxpayers again forced to bail out or subsidise Microsoft https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/pentagon_delays_jwcc_cloud_deal/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Apr 02 21:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR | don't worry, Donald Biden and Joe Trump will bail them out | Apr 02 21:41 |
| psydruid | Apple is actually shipping millions of ARM systems and so is Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | because "RUSHA" | Apr 02 21:41 |
| psydruid | Microsoft OEMS a few hundred thousand at most | Apr 02 21:42 |
| activelow | i think rust-lang is a utility, to re-implement software which was written in c/c++ elsewhere with undesireable licenses for those who prefer rust-lang | Apr 02 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: some companies want to buy ARM | Apr 02 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. Intel | Apr 02 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | obv. a bigger antitrust issue thsn nvidia | Apr 02 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | The reason you still see Windows XP around is because Windows Vista was so bloated that it set them back for YEARS. | Apr 02 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | latestagecapitalism: state connected companies buy everything | Apr 02 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and are sponsored by taxpayers | Apr 02 21:42 |
| activelow | if software is transpiled into rust-lang, they can claim a new license for the software (potentially violating GPL or any other license of what was written in C/C++ long before) | Apr 02 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's still point of sale systems that can't use anything newer than "POSReady 2009". | Apr 02 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Which is XP. | Apr 02 21:43 |
| psydruid | I doubt it's going to work out this time either | Apr 02 21:43 |
| *activelow will never accept rust-lang or llvm/clang | Apr 02 21:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | wine has better windows compat than xp | Apr 02 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | My optometrist is still using Windows XP. | Apr 02 21:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some distros are gentler on h/w | Apr 02 21:43 |
| bnchs | activelow: it means less cross-platform | Apr 02 21:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there is no reason to run xp anymore | Apr 02 21:43 |
| bnchs | and more unreadable syntax | Apr 02 21:43 |
| bnchs | all of that for | Apr 02 21:44 |
| bnchs | "memory safety" | Apr 02 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | just throw xfce4 with wine on a mchinea | Apr 02 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | He said if he replaced it he'd have to buy a new $50,000 device because they didn't produce software that worked with it for a later version of Windows. | Apr 02 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you get a "modern" browser, too | Apr 02 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: typical windows | Apr 02 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and speaking of rust | Apr 02 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to changing apis | Apr 02 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "No, really it'll be your customers paying for it when that thing craps out because the vendor wanted planned obsolescence with Windows.". | Apr 02 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lakc of h/w support, just because... | Apr 02 21:45 |
| activelow | bnchs: i consider BaphometOS among the most secure, even removed some of the memory-safety features _intentionally_; and there isn't a single line of rust-lang anywhere | Apr 02 21:45 |
| psydruid | I only have Vista 10 in a VM on my main laptop | Apr 02 21:45 |
| bnchs | good for you | Apr 02 21:45 |
| bnchs | except the vista 10 | Apr 02 21:45 |
| bnchs | but i hate rudt | Apr 02 21:45 |
| bnchs | rust* | Apr 02 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | windows+rust=windo jams | Apr 02 21:46 |
| MinceR | 02 221423 < mjg59_> DaemonFC: I'm not clear what analogy you're trying to draw here. What does C usefully allow you to do that Rust doesn't? | Apr 02 21:46 |
| MinceR | implement something that will also build next year? | Apr 02 21:46 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Digging through the firmware, there's a "Reset to Setup Mode" option | Apr 02 21:46 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Once you do that, you can enroll new keys from the OS | Apr 02 21:47 |
| psydruid | I need to make sure some of the stuff I write compiles and runs on vista, so that VM is seeing a few hours of use per year before it gets nuked | Apr 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | The reference implementation of libopus is written in C89. It works fine. | Apr 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | You can even compile it for Windows 95. | Apr 02 21:47 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: you cant do that with rust | Apr 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Probable even Windows 3.1 through Win32s. I've just not tried. | Apr 02 21:47 |
| bnchs | because rust is all about bresking compatibility | Apr 02 21:48 |
| bnchs | even with decade old consoles and shit | Apr 02 21:48 |
| techrights-news | 10 more days https://fossforce.com/2022/04/richard-stallman-to-deliver-state-of-free-software-online-on-april-13/ | Apr 02 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Stallman to Deliver 'State of Free Software' Online April 13 - FOSS Force | Apr 02 21:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Yes, I have an Opus plug-in for Winamp 2. | Apr 02 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | It works on Windows 95. | Apr 02 21:48 |
| MinceR | also, with C, i can write code that at least 2 implementations can compile | Apr 02 21:48 |
| bnchs | rust doesnt have much compatibility | Apr 02 21:48 |
| MinceR | i can do both of those things also in C++ | Apr 02 21:49 |
| bnchs | with rust, you can write code that will only last half a year before breaking | Apr 02 21:49 |
| bnchs | with C: you can write code that can last forever | Apr 02 21:49 |
| MinceR | with C and C++, i can also write code that one can build without becoming a vassal to MICROS~1 | Apr 02 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Can Microsoft also push malware to it that formats your disk if you live in Russia? | Apr 02 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | That's the really important feature. Like they can with NPM. | Apr 02 21:49 |
| bnchs | also theres platforms like the PS3 | Apr 02 21:50 |
| bnchs | that only has C library interface to the systems | Apr 02 21:50 |
| bnchs | like libgcm | Apr 02 21:50 |
| *psydruid doesn't even know how to work with NPM | Apr 02 21:50 | |
| MinceR | getting your code to execute on a PS3 is an ordeal anyway | Apr 02 21:50 |
| MinceR | it wasn't meant to be programmed by anyone other than sony's vassals | Apr 02 21:50 |
| bnchs | it does have a free software homebrew SDK | Apr 02 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Getting your Windows program from the Windows XP era to work on Windows 10 is already dicey. I'm sure Windows 11 found even more ways to break it. | Apr 02 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | It works fine on Wine. | Apr 02 21:51 |
| bnchs | and a bunch of leaked proprietary Sony SDKs | Apr 02 21:51 |
| bnchs | but just pick the free SDK | Apr 02 21:51 |
| MinceR | and that free SDK exists against sony's wishes and efforts | Apr 02 21:51 |
| bnchs | and only the proprietary if you really need shit like SPRX | Apr 02 21:51 |
| MinceR | the whole gaming console business model is that you pay to access the platform as a developer | Apr 02 21:51 |
| *psydruid shied away from buying a used PowerXCell server due to high power consumption | Apr 02 21:51 | |
| bnchs | MinceR: its just a gcc cross-compiler to CELL CPU | Apr 02 21:51 |
| bnchs | and like a entire toolchain | Apr 02 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Don't worry. You can still use whatever happens to work on Windows 10 for a few more years until Microshit lets it bitrot and cuts new systems off from running it and refuses to patch all of the holes that people find in it. | Apr 02 21:52 |
| bnchs | and some free PS3 tools | Apr 02 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Then you can just lose ANOTHER batch of programs to Vista 11. | Apr 02 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Every version of Windows causes thousands of programs to stop working. | Apr 02 21:52 |
| bnchs | MinceR: "access the platform as a developer" yes but you also have to pay sony if you wanna publish the PKG file to their PSN store | Apr 02 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | In return, you get a version of Windows that's even more bloated and slow, and packed with more nasty things no users would ask for (spyware and ads from Microsoft, for starters). | Apr 02 21:53 |
| bnchs | the SDK is free but you have to pay sony to publish it to the PSN store* | Apr 02 21:53 |
| psydruid | by that time Vista 12 will be out, which will be an even bigger success than Vista 11 | Apr 02 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Windows "upgrades" are something nobody looks forward to unless they don't happen to use ANY programs that are more than a few years old. | Apr 02 21:53 |
| MinceR | bnchs: that's what i meant | Apr 02 21:53 |
| psydruid | Windows will cause itself to stop working | Apr 02 21:54 |
| bnchs | yeah | Apr 02 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | And even at that, the process usually gets hung up and it manages to corrupt itself and require a clean install anyway. | Apr 02 21:54 |
| psydruid | The End | Apr 02 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Whether it manages to boot afterwards or not. | Apr 02 21:54 |
| bnchs | but Sony cant do shit about the free SDK | Apr 02 21:54 |
| bnchs | but its just a bunch of tools built off of reverse engineered documentations | Apr 02 21:54 |
| bnchs | and cross-compilers | Apr 02 21:54 |
| techrights-news | Radio for GNOME 42 is here, there and everywhere • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163288 | Apr 02 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radio for GNOME 42 is here, there and everywhere | Tux Machines | Apr 02 21:54 | |
| psydruid | how does Vista 11 work on the latest and greatest hardware anyway? | Apr 02 21:54 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163289 | Apr 02 21:55 |
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| DaemonFC | One big problem is that Microsoft can't anticipate anything the user has done post-install. They've even had installers for a new version of Windows fail because someone moved the taskbar. "Something happened. Something happened.". | Apr 02 21:55 |
| techrights-news | Videos: Terminal Fun, GNOME, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163290 | Apr 02 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Terminal Fun, GNOME, and More | Tux Machines | Apr 02 21:55 | |
| DaemonFC | It's the most unprofessional piece of shit there is. So why use it? | Apr 02 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | OEM crimes | Apr 02 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft crimes | Apr 02 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | bribes, corruption | Apr 02 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't sell windows to PEOPLE | Apr 02 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they sell it to OEMs | Apr 02 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they bribe them | Apr 02 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | or blackmail them with patents | Apr 02 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Their response to the taskbar bug hanging the new Windows installers wasn't to fix the bug. It was to lock the taskbar to the bottom of the screen. | Apr 02 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they bribe the regime too | Apr 02 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | obama, trump, biden... | Apr 02 21:56 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: thats what you get when you build your OS off of towers and towers of technical debt and rushed development | Apr 02 21:56 |
| activelow | microsoft windows did fully implement LDAP/Kerberos (ActiveDirectory) which is their selling point in the enterprise realm | Apr 02 21:56 |
| bnchs | it starts crashing because it doesnt anticipate something obscure | Apr 02 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'enterprise' | Apr 02 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | gluing together clown stuff | Apr 02 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see it every day at work | Apr 02 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies think outsourcing is "smart" | Apr 02 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the disservices keep shutting down | Apr 02 21:57 |
| activelow | the relevant term is distributed system, not cloud | Apr 02 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they keep running form one clown to another clown | Apr 02 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's an expensive circus | Apr 02 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons why I decided on Debian and not Ubuntu is because I don't think Snaps are very well designed. | Apr 02 21:57 |
| chunky | snaps are an abomination! | Apr 02 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | And I don't like being pushed to use software installers that don't let me add sources from someone else. | Apr 02 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: distributed outwards | Apr 02 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I use Flatpaks on Debian. | Apr 02 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | chunky: snaps are laziness | Apr 02 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | can't be bother to build properly | Apr 02 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | So my base system is all served (well, mostly) by Debian, and many of my applications are the current versions through Flatpak. | Apr 02 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I made a jiffy bag of binaries right there, like containers | Apr 02 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Having a base system with a lot of lulz and changing a lot is not helpful. | Apr 02 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's how they ship their CRapps | Apr 02 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in mobile phones, another mess | Apr 02 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | But neither is having applications that are several versions behind. | Apr 02 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | So now I can have the best of both worlds. | Apr 02 21:59 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Your lives as they have been are over. You will exist to service us! -Locutus of Borg | Apr 02 22:00 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: you assume all will consolidate on the same | Apr 02 22:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you end up with many appimages lying around | Apr 02 22:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and snapd running as a daemon | Apr 02 22:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and flatpak demanding you reboot your machine | Apr 02 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Every once in a while I have to run flatpak remove --unused | Apr 02 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | And it cleans up orphan platform stuff, but yeah. | Apr 02 22:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some application may stop delivering builds in these channels | Apr 02 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Other than some occasional cleanup, it's not terrible. | Apr 02 22:01 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Anyway send me a link to a Yoga 900 13ISK2 and I'll buy it as long as you agree to pay me back if you're wrong | Apr 02 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, I have a better offer. | Apr 02 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'll take pictures of what LOL NO! Vo did to it and post them. | Apr 02 22:01 |
| mjg59_ | Sure, just show me a picture of the security menu in the firmware | Apr 02 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | And you can tell me exactly what in the fuck I'm supposed to do with that on the theory I want to set it up myself. | Apr 02 22:02 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: hahaha sure | Apr 02 22:02 |
| mjg59_ | Works for me | Apr 02 22:02 |
| bnchs | buy the computer | Apr 02 22:02 |
| bnchs | then when you find out the truth | Apr 02 22:02 |
| bnchs | ill ghost you | Apr 02 22:02 |
| bnchs | 100% wasted money | Apr 02 22:02 |
| mjg59_ | True, I do already know he's a liar | Apr 02 22:03 |
| mjg59_ | The whole thing where he signed me up for a bunch of spam lists and then denied it | Apr 02 22:03 |
| bnchs | "oh geez it wasnt me who signed you up for a gay porn website" | Apr 02 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't see anything called "Custom Mode" or where I can add or delete anything. In fact, OpenSUSE did ask to install their signing key, which works....But there's no way to remove them except "RESET", which leaves Microsoft's, and you cannot remove Microsoft's and distrust Microsoft. | Apr 02 22:04 |
| bnchs | "well tough luck" | Apr 02 22:04 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Once you're in setup mode you can just rewrite kek and db | Apr 02 22:04 |
| mjg59_ | They're not append-only | Apr 02 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like all that can be done is to add new ones, through whatever means OpenSUSE is using. | Apr 02 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | But there's no fine grained control for the user. | Apr 02 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | You can't even see what's in there. | Apr 02 22:05 |
| mjg59_ | Yes you can - you just read the variables | Apr 02 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Just some big stupid global RESET button. | Apr 02 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | So, they've done this in the most user-hostile way possible? | Apr 02 22:06 |
| mjg59_ | There's a standard interface to that, you don't need the firmware to give you another one | Apr 02 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Why exactly? | Apr 02 22:06 |
| mjg59_ | If by "The most user-hostile way possible" you mean "They've allowed to to use the standard tools", sure | Apr 02 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Why isn't there a menu that says "Microsoft put this one in." "OpenSUSE put this one in." "Ubuntu did this."? | Apr 02 22:07 |
| mjg59_ | Because there are already OS tools that tell you that? | Apr 02 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | And you can just add or remove them as you see fit from the firmware setup tool. | Apr 02 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I seem to recall that the code for that is already in there, Lenovo just hid it. | Apr 02 22:07 |
| mjg59_ | I'd prefer this to be done in the OS rather than the firmware - less probability of the firmware fucking it up | Apr 02 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Because that guy that used the external flasher to flash in a patched BIOS that unhides AHCI mode also added back other options Lenovo hid. | Apr 02 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | And some of them pertain to Secure Boot. | Apr 02 22:08 |
| mjg59_ | I don't think you get to complain that firmware is too complicated and also complain that the firmware should do more | Apr 02 22:08 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway, glad we've got that sorted | Apr 02 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's there, but they hid it, forcing the user to use other tools, but sometimes Lenovo added code that resets it once you use those other tools and reboot. | Apr 02 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, not shitty and complicated at all. | Apr 02 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you Matthew. | Apr 02 22:08 |
| mjg59_ | Always glad to help out | Apr 02 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Along the way to dealing with that storage controller mode fuckery back in 2016, someone DID set it using UEFI Shell. | Apr 02 22:09 |
| psydruid | Matthew IDGAFMAN | Apr 02 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then it turned out Lenovo wrote more code to set it back so you couldn't make it persist, in addition to hiding the AHCI code and GUI toggle that were in the default firmware. | Apr 02 22:10 |
| psydruid | show me the money! | Apr 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't the only one that was furious that I bought a laptop and found out it was all gimpy and could only run Windows because "reasons". | Apr 02 22:10 |
| psydruid | x86 is like being in the Matrix | Apr 02 22:11 |
| MinceR | 02 230621 < DaemonFC> So, they've done this in the most user-hostile way possible? | Apr 02 22:11 |
| MinceR | that's pretty much the point of uefi | Apr 02 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | And I bought it because a blogger said it ran Ubuntu fine and then found out they made a very subtle change to the model number and did THIS in the process. | Apr 02 22:11 |
| MinceR | at least the way MICROS~1 requires it to be for their certifications | Apr 02 22:11 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: disable secure boot? | Apr 02 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | You know, after I was slimed by, well, everyone, and realized I was going to get no help from Lenovo or the media exposure..... | Apr 02 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | I filed a case with the Attorney General's office. | Apr 02 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Then Lenovo contacted me and offered to fix it. | Apr 02 22:12 |
| bnchs | lol | Apr 02 22:13 |
| bnchs | lenovo is a big microsoft shill | Apr 02 22:13 |
| techrights-news | Kyle Wiens on Right to Repair or Fight to Repair | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/fight-to-repair/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/fight-to-repair/ | Apr 02 22:13 |
| psydruid | bnchs, I think that was not possible with his uefi, because they removed that setting | Apr 02 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Kyle Wiens on Right to Repair or Fight to Repair | Techrights | Apr 02 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC | After they put out a blurb stating that they didn't want it to run "Linux" because the hinge was designed for Windows 10. I replied to that stating that GNOME went to Tablet Mode and the Virtual Keyboard actually worked 100% of the time, unlike in Windows 10. | Apr 02 22:13 |
| bnchs | lenovo is a big piece of shit | Apr 02 22:13 |
| bnchs | unlike before it was bought | Apr 02 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | In Windows 10, you flip it over and the Virtual Keyboard basically only recognizes Microsoft apps. | Apr 02 22:13 |
| bnchs | by some chinese | Apr 02 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | So in Edge, you get a keyboard, in Firefox you don't. | Apr 02 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Things like that. | Apr 02 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Opinion? | Apr 02 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, in Fedora with GNOME, the keyboard worked with all sorts of things it didn't under Windows. Like in Windows, you open LibreOffice, nothing happens. No keyboard. | Apr 02 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | You just sit there tapping on it, no keyboard in Windows. Only in Microsoft Office. | Apr 02 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | I had a "free trial". | Apr 02 22:15 |
| bnchs | fuck lenovo | Apr 02 22:15 |
| bnchs | fuck OEMs that build UEFI with no secure boot options | Apr 02 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Absolutely! They've gotten a bit better after that. | Apr 02 22:16 |
| bnchs | fuck OEMs that force windows | Apr 02 22:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | bribes | Apr 02 22:16 |
| bnchs | there's no incentive to do this | Apr 02 22:16 |
| psydruid | OEMs are Microsoft's customers | Apr 02 22:16 |
| bnchs | unless microsoft bribed them to do it | Apr 02 22:16 |
| psydruid | and they want this control | Apr 02 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Debian works so much better. It never EVER does something stupid and unexpected on the level that Windows does at least once or twice a week. | Apr 02 22:17 |
| psydruid | with GNU/Linux they don't have this control over your systems | Apr 02 22:17 |
| *activelow sighs | Apr 02 22:17 | |
| psydruid | especially when there are no ME/PSP backdoors | Apr 02 22:18 |
| psydruid | so screw them and let them die instead of rewarding them with your hard-earned cash | Apr 02 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think MinceR has actually seen Windows recently. If he had, he'd know that GNOME isn't in the same ballpark when it comes to mental retardation. Windows went to hyperspace and is about a million light years out ahead of the most retarded thing you've encountered on "Linux". | Apr 02 22:18 |
| bnchs | dude | Apr 02 22:18 |
| bnchs | i was in a computer store | Apr 02 22:19 |
| bnchs | and was surprised by some login screen that looked like KDE's login screen | Apr 02 22:19 |
| bnchs | i press enter, and it was just windows 11 | Apr 02 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Had they just left well enough alone with Windows 7 I don't think they'd be hemorrhaging Windows users like this, but you know....They went "there" with Windows 8. | Apr 02 22:19 |
| MinceR | i've seen Backdoors a few minutes ago | Apr 02 22:19 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen GNOME in a while, though | Apr 02 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Windows is just totally falling apart. | Apr 02 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | It smells of apathy and disgruntled labor. | Apr 02 22:20 |
| bnchs | windows is literally just a copy of KDE | Apr 02 22:20 |
| bnchs | they copy KDE and change it a bit | Apr 02 22:20 |
| psydruid | a bad copy | Apr 02 22:20 |
| psydruid | because internally it's still the same spaghetti | Apr 02 22:20 |
| psydruid | want some sauce with that? | Apr 02 22:20 |
| psydruid | Qt is also going in that direction, though | Apr 02 22:22 |
| psydruid | Dave Plumber's been pulling his Mario trick | Apr 02 22:23 |
| bnchs | oh what is he doing | Apr 02 22:24 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032212 | Apr 02 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/p74s1s52j4o81.jpg created on 2022-03-22 03:41:05.141781 | Apr 02 22:26 | |
| psydruid | making excuses for why Linux has "problems" | Apr 02 22:26 |
| psydruid | I think you said that last time | Apr 02 22:27 |
| bnchs | yes like a softie who never left microsoft | Apr 02 22:27 |
| psydruid | I don't remember what exactly it was about | Apr 02 22:27 |
| activelow | none of the major GUI desktop environments are acceptable; it isn't easy to remove dbus/udev/... from gtk3 (compile-time); and qt5 is worse (removed entirely) | Apr 02 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Micro Center has been a better place to go than the rest. | Apr 02 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | We still have a few here. | Apr 02 22:27 |
| bnchs | he said linux has a secret backdoor that only torvalds knows | Apr 02 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | At one point, they were selling boxed sets of PC-BSD> | Apr 02 22:27 |
| activelow | and there isn't any web browser remaining anymore either, if the criteria for "free software" are strict | Apr 02 22:28 |
| activelow | it is even irelevant, if it's either BSD-licensed kernel and userspace, or GPL | Apr 02 22:28 |
| activelow | not to mention compilers (gcc, llvm), which, with strict criteria enforced, leaves free software not at least with a c-compiler anymore for recent hardware and kernel | Apr 02 22:29 |
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| matey | /me shows people how to compile code into python then run it from the same (already running) interpreter | Apr 02 22:37 |
| matey | its not difficult but its fun | Apr 02 22:37 |
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| bnchs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBFdLwbzmB8 | Apr 02 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RBFdLwbzmB8 | Apr 02 22:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | That time Bill Gates had a house party... - Invidious | Apr 02 22:38 | |
| bnchs | yes | Apr 02 22:38 |
| bnchs | bill gates the womanizer | Apr 02 22:38 |
| bnchs | but the video doesnt talk about that | Apr 02 22:38 |
| matey | but github has a rainbow sometimes | Apr 02 22:39 |
| matey | microsoft <3 lgbtq | Apr 02 22:39 |
| activelow | i don't know, why Bill Gates is potrayed as a microsoft guy nowadays; his era was/is the i8086 CP/M DOS systems | Apr 02 22:39 |
| matey | i don't know, why Bill Gates is potrayed as a microsoft guy nowadays <- only living founder, one of the worlds 10 richest people because of microsoft, has only named successors who ran it for him like a proxy | Apr 02 22:40 |
| matey | no particular reason. | Apr 02 22:40 |
| bnchs | i wish bill gates died | Apr 02 22:40 |
| bnchs | fucking asshole | Apr 02 22:40 |
| matey | funnily enough, if i was on a boat with bill gates, microsoft and a gun and two bullets | Apr 02 22:41 |
| matey | i would shoot microsoft, twice | Apr 02 22:41 |
| activelow | microsoft 2020 isn't micro-soft 1980; different company, different products, almost nothing in common | Apr 02 22:41 |
| bnchs | matey: nah too obvious | Apr 02 22:42 |
| bnchs | you know just sabatoge the boat | Apr 02 22:42 |
| bnchs | from the inside | Apr 02 22:42 |
| bnchs | and watch them sink | Apr 02 22:42 |
| matey | almost nothing in common <- right, these days they try to control everything done on x86, and in the 1980s, that was TOTALLY DIFFERENT | Apr 02 22:42 |
| matey | i mean THEIR LOGO CHANGED | Apr 02 22:42 |
| matey | what do people want? | Apr 02 22:42 |
| matey | their MARKETING IS NEARLY THE OPPOSITE of what it was | Apr 02 22:42 |
| matey | they used to try to destroy the competitors | Apr 02 22:43 |
| matey | now they just try to make friends! | Apr 02 22:43 |
| matey | they used to have a fuckload of marketshare | Apr 02 22:44 |
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| matey | now they have to BUY OUT things that have a fuckload of marketshare! | Apr 02 22:44 |
| matey | they USED TO dismiss the internet and especially the web | Apr 02 22:44 |
| matey | now they simply work to destroy it | Apr 02 22:44 |
| matey | so yeah, night and day. | Apr 02 22:44 |
| matey | a bit like putlin, they just want to work with ukrainians to do whats best for ukraine | Apr 02 22:45 |
| matey | really microsoft is like a charity, but wait no, their charity is like an evil megacorp | Apr 02 22:45 |
| matey | we complain about them in the media, they buy off the media | Apr 02 22:47 |
| matey | they didnt do that in the 80s | Apr 02 22:47 |
| matey | so thats different | Apr 02 22:47 |
| matey | we complain about the to the government, they buy off the government | Apr 02 22:47 |
| matey | also totally new | Apr 02 22:47 |
| matey | so really its a very different company | Apr 02 22:47 |
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| matey | only the fact that theyre pure fucking evil hasnt changed | Apr 02 22:48 |
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| bnchs | you know | Apr 02 22:49 |
| bnchs | i would have drugged bill's mom | Apr 02 22:49 |
| bnchs | with birth control pills | Apr 02 22:49 |
| activelow | matey: they and their products have become worse, alot worse, since 1980 | Apr 02 22:50 |
| matey | <activelow> matey: they and their products have become worse, alot worse, since 1980 <- yes | Apr 02 22:50 |
| matey | so what you said before is confusing | Apr 02 22:50 |
| matey | <bnchs> with birth control pills <- im pretty sure he was made in a lab anyway | Apr 02 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Ever since that incident where I had to go to court and fight that traffic ticket last year, I've been reporting the police traps all around town whenever I see them. | Apr 02 22:52 |
| matey | /me checks out a row of vials at wuhan | Apr 02 22:52 |
| matey | "covid 19" | Apr 02 22:53 |
| matey | "bill gates dna" | Apr 02 22:53 |
| matey | "nyan cat meme" | Apr 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully, I save at least a few people from a ticket and cost the city some money. | Apr 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | People ask me why I have my GPS app open when I'm just driving around places I know. I say it's to remind me about red light cameras and cops. | Apr 02 22:54 |
| bnchs | ok | Apr 02 22:55 |
| bnchs | even if he was made in a lab | Apr 02 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm certain I would have gotten at least SOME automated tickets by now if it wasn't for the warnings that I'm approaching the camera. Gives me time enough to slow down to pass the camera and then speed back up again. | Apr 02 22:55 |
| bnchs | spit into the DNA | Apr 02 22:55 |
| bnchs | maybe piss on it | Apr 02 22:55 |
| bnchs | then put it back | Apr 02 22:55 |
| matey | /me would rather see the world become an enlightened army against bullshit | Apr 02 22:58 |
| matey | granted, its a long shot! and im a pessimist | Apr 02 22:58 |
| matey | a VERY long shot. it would make mars seem like it was next door | Apr 02 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure my DNA is fairly resilient. Most of my grandparents took terrible care of themselves, especially later in life. | Apr 02 22:58 |
| matey | which it is, sort of. | Apr 02 22:58 |
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| DaemonFC | They make it to their late 80s. One of my grandmothers is still alive. She's 90. | Apr 02 22:59 |
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| DaemonFC | My great-grandparents made it into their 80s and 90s despite no access to modern medicine. | Apr 02 22:59 |
| bnchs | i want to live to see bill gates publicly executed | Apr 02 22:59 |
| bnchs | it will make my life | Apr 02 22:59 |
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| psydruid | he has a son - mini bill gates | Apr 02 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of lowering the price of gas in Crook County, they hold raffles to see who gets to make it to work for a few weeks. (Gas card lottery.) | Apr 02 23:03 |
| activelow | here is the difference: early Z80 era systems, BASIC, asm hacking, hardware development, computer algebra, hayes 300, ... all of this is still relevant | Apr 02 23:03 |
| activelow | modern ms windows, and most of the "free software", aren't anymore; that's another fundemental difference | Apr 02 23:04 |
| activelow | i mean, the Altair BASIC paper tape inside a museum somehwere, that's more free and open than most of what got a free software license smeared onto | Apr 02 23:05 |
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| activelow | oh, matey seems to have missed my last comment | Apr 02 23:05 |
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| matey | < activelow> i mean, the Altair BASIC paper tape inside a museum somehwere, that's more free and open <- | Apr 02 23:14 |
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| matey | of note is they put code together that they fished out of a skip when software was copyrightable and protected only by nda | Apr 02 23:15 |
| matey | and that they lobbied to make the industry hate hobbyist code, which was sheer hypocrisy | Apr 02 23:16 |
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| matey | as hobbyists often do better, more honest work than microsoft does-- and they talked like it was "piracy" | Apr 02 23:16 |
| matey | free software licenses arent the worst thing about free software by far | Apr 02 23:16 |
| matey | the biggest problem free software has is people who pretend to give a shit. | Apr 02 23:17 |
| matey | if not for them, microsoft would be dying in agony right now | Apr 02 23:17 |
| matey | granted, microsoft is still the aggressor. we cant blame the victim like EVERYTHING is their fault | Apr 02 23:18 |
| matey | though people that pretend to give a shit are still the biggest problem we have. | Apr 02 23:18 |
| matey | and probably the main thing standing between us and victory | Apr 02 23:18 |
| matey | "us" being i dont know, as most people who do care have given up and are waiting for a sign | Apr 02 23:19 |
| *psydruid rounds up the collaborators and summarily executes them | Apr 02 23:19 | |
| matey | i mean github already has them corralled | Apr 02 23:20 |
| psydruid | Microsoft has an army of MVPs that keep the company's malware in place | Apr 02 23:20 |
| matey | no question | Apr 02 23:21 |
| matey | free software used to be about saying no to being controlled | Apr 02 23:23 |
| matey | but giafam has made a series of offers that the movement apparently cant refuse | Apr 02 23:23 |
| matey | the best way to quantify the movement itself is to watch projects closely enough to see who is bullshitting and who is fighting | Apr 02 23:24 |
| matey | and most people? are just coding and talking the talk. | Apr 02 23:24 |
| matey | meanwhile the entire movement continues to drift towards corporate control | Apr 02 23:25 |
| matey | sorry, corporate control is not freedom | Apr 02 23:25 |
| matey | it wasnt before, and they only pretend it is now | Apr 02 23:25 |
| psydruid | the thing is that are just writing bs code | Apr 02 23:25 |
| psydruid | that they* | Apr 02 23:25 |
| matey | i wont even go that far, because im not a huge critic of code | Apr 02 23:25 |
| matey | i let people who know more about code quality do that | Apr 02 23:25 |
| matey | i critique projects based on goals and integrity | Apr 02 23:26 |
| matey | and let people who know how to write really good code sort out whats bs | Apr 02 23:26 |
| matey | anything based on github is making a huge compromise | Apr 02 23:27 |
| activelow | ^ try to compile an entire GNU/Linux distro with TinyCC | Apr 02 23:27 |
| matey | anything based at ibm is debatably making an even larger one | Apr 02 23:27 |
| matey | <activelow> ^ try to compile an entire GNU/Linux distro with TinyCC <- no one is going to maintain a free-as-in-freedom linux kernel, not even you | Apr 02 23:27 |
| matey | this isnt a critique of your project, just the linux kernel | Apr 02 23:28 |
| matey | your project is cool enough | Apr 02 23:28 |
| activelow | reminds me, haven't got any TeX system yet inside BaphometOS base system | Apr 02 23:29 |
| matey | one of my associates is a huge fan of tex | Apr 02 23:29 |
| matey | i cant say much about it since ive never used it | Apr 02 23:29 |
| matey | i used to think libreoffice would do well enough for us non-wizards | Apr 02 23:30 |
| matey | but i see libreoffice as destined to be taken over entirely by collabora | Apr 02 23:30 |
| matey | which means its fate is bound to gnome | Apr 02 23:31 |
| matey | hopefully im wrong. either way, the document foundation are dicks | Apr 02 23:31 |
| activelow | any X11/GTK3 related components cannot remain inside bapho base system anyway | Apr 02 23:31 |
| psydruid | does the document foundation standardize odf? | Apr 02 23:32 |
| matey | does the document foundation standardize odf? <- seems likely, but since i dont know i can only guess | Apr 02 23:32 |
| matey | i really dont care about odf | Apr 02 23:32 |
| matey | i know i "should" but if i ask "why" i have no answer | Apr 02 23:32 |
| matey | its one of those "shoulds" that work out to "just because" | Apr 02 23:32 |
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| psydruid | I use it because I can still open the files in 10 years | Apr 02 23:33 |
| matey | odf is a response to industry, in the way that militant atheism is a response to superficial bastardisation of religiious texts | Apr 02 23:33 |
| activelow | the alternative to ms office wasn't libreoffice, it was TeX | Apr 02 23:33 |
| psydruid | but generally I prefer TeX for text processing | Apr 02 23:33 |
| matey | <psydruid> I use it because I can still open the files in 10 years <- i would prefer to use something more readable | Apr 02 23:34 |
| matey | i mean i have years of html crap for example | Apr 02 23:34 |
| matey | html (mine at least) is a lot cleaner than the xml in an odf document | Apr 02 23:35 |
| activelow | btw, epson 9pin printing is maintained too with baphometos; re-integrated lprng even (although not necessary to have a spooler with matrix printers) | Apr 02 23:35 |
| matey | btw, epson 9pin printing is maintained too <- aww, my first (technically second) printer | Apr 02 23:35 |
| activelow | too, Epson supports some bitmap format, to plot diagrams and illustrations with | Apr 02 23:35 |
| matey | my first printer was a wee thermal attached to an 8 bit machine | Apr 02 23:36 |
| matey | it was thoroughly useless, but so cool that i didnt care it only produced (literally) rubbish | Apr 02 23:36 |
| activelow | well, yes, printing subsystem with CUPS was removed too; however the power of fanfeed plotters is underestimated, and their importance | Apr 02 23:36 |
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| matey | however the power of fanfeed plotters is underestimated, and their importance <- indeed | Apr 02 23:36 |
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| activelow | it wasn't that much effort, some config and script for a clean formatted output of text | Apr 02 23:37 |
| matey | my epson 9 pin was the coolest thing ever | Apr 02 23:37 |
| activelow | works with mutt mailer to | Apr 02 23:37 |
| matey | it wasn't that much effort <- it shouldnt be, you could build the interface from discrete parts | Apr 02 23:37 |
| matey | not that any sane person would | Apr 02 23:37 |
| matey | well, a couple might | Apr 02 23:38 |
| activelow | Epson still produces them; the former east-german manufacturing is defunct | Apr 02 23:38 |
| matey | and rms would shit on them in favor of some fly-by-night with an fpga and a bunch of configuration shit on github | Apr 02 23:38 |
| matey | epson > hp | Apr 02 23:39 |
| matey | fuck hp | Apr 02 23:39 |
| matey | /me gets surgery to have additional middle fingers to hold up at hp | Apr 02 23:39 |
| matey | fuck you, linus (and nvidia too) | Apr 02 23:40 |
| activelow | need to place this on TODO: TeX output rendering of math formulas, diagrams, illustrations into epson bitmap | Apr 02 23:40 |
| activelow | with gnuplot there was some issue remaining to keep it inside the c-only base system profile | Apr 02 23:40 |
| matey | figures | Apr 02 23:40 |
| matey | somehow im not surprised that gnuplot is part of the gnu plot | Apr 02 23:41 |
| activelow | maybe, gemini authoring, can be integrated with TeX and 9pin matrix printing; for scientific papers etc. | Apr 02 23:42 |
| activelow | illustrations, diagrams, maths formulas, that's important, with computers | Apr 02 23:43 |
| activelow | so far, the framebuffer-only console of BaphometOS has limitations, such as web browsers (lynx, w3m, links etc) | Apr 02 23:44 |
| activelow | with both, scientific authoring, and electronic publication (screen rendering), and printing onto matrix plotters | Apr 02 23:44 |
| activelow | nonetheless, with baphometos i got www, irc, mail, printing, and anything which can be programmed with C, python (maybe fortran too if need be) | Apr 02 23:45 |
| matey | 8CTO & co-founder, Invoca; co-founder, Gnuplot https://gist.github.com/ColinDKelley | Apr 02 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | ColinDKelley’s gists · GitHub | Apr 02 23:47 | |
| matey | 126 contributions in the last year (although none of them are to his own repos, so props there) | Apr 02 23:48 |
| matey | he stopped "contributing" to his own repos in dec 2016 | Apr 02 23:48 |
| psydruid | because there is no money in free software? | Apr 02 23:53 |
| matey | hopefully, because after 2016 he realised that he was consorting with the enemy | Apr 02 23:54 |
| matey | i never look into what the "126 contributions in the past year" were of course | Apr 02 23:54 |
| matey | maybe he deleted 126 icons in different html files. | Apr 02 23:55 |
| matey | the resolution of that information is too fine to be useful to me | Apr 02 23:55 |
| matey | theres a funny problem in getting the perimeter of a landmass | Apr 02 23:56 |
| matey | the finer the resolution, the bigger the perimeter gets | Apr 02 23:56 |
| matey | because of all the little nooks and crannies | Apr 02 23:57 |
| psydruid | I'm just wondering if the fundamental problem with free software as a business model, which it isn't, is that there isn't enough money to sustain bloated, unreliable and insecure software stacks for very many developers to stay employed working on those | Apr 02 23:58 |
| psydruid | and all the defections are caused by a need or willingness to sell out | Apr 02 23:59 |
| matey | is that there isn't enough money to sustain bloated, unreliable and insecure software stacks for very many developers to stay employed working on those <- at this point im convinced that free software and capitalism cannot have a working relationship | Apr 02 23:59 |
| matey | these days all attempts to continue one seem to be based on politely ignoring reality | Apr 02 23:59 |
| matey | in terms of ideology, free software is NOT opposed to capitalism. and im ok with that | Apr 02 23:59 |
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