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BaronVladimirHar | <techrights-bot ""Youngsters can never reach the "> Same story everywhere. | Jun 03 00:01 |
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BaronVladimirHar/fn | <techrights-bot ""Youngsters can never reach the "> Same story everywhere. | Jun 03 00:01 |
BaronVladimirHar | Put an app on your phone. Here's a 1099. Hope you don't get shot picking up fares for $4. | Jun 03 00:01 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Put an app on your phone. Here's a 1099. Hope you don't get shot picking up fares for $4. | Jun 03 00:01 |
BaronVladimirHar | Uber is extremely dangerous, for both the public and the drivers. | Jun 03 00:02 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Uber is extremely dangerous, for both the public and the drivers. | Jun 03 00:02 |
BaronVladimirHar | It's not worth the beating up your car and driving in dangerous neighborhoods for almost no money, but people do it because of unemployment. | Jun 03 00:02 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | It's not worth the beating up your car and driving in dangerous neighborhoods for almost no money, but people do it because of unemployment. | Jun 03 00:02 |
immibis | what's your proposal, give people free money from the government? | Jun 03 00:03 |
immibis/fn | what's your proposal, give people free money from the government? | Jun 03 00:03 |
BaronVladimirHar | No solution seems to work very well. | Jun 03 00:03 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | No solution seems to work very well. | Jun 03 00:03 |
immibis | or give the drivers more guns? | Jun 03 00:04 |
immibis/fn | or give the drivers more guns? | Jun 03 00:04 |
BaronVladimirHar | I've noticed that there's a ton of homeless people in Waukegan now, and it appears to be getting worse. | Jun 03 00:04 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I've noticed that there's a ton of homeless people in Waukegan now, and it appears to be getting worse. | Jun 03 00:04 |
BaronVladimirHar | <immibis "or give the drivers more guns?"> Everyone should have a gun, assuming they don't have a felony record or extremely serious mental illness. | Jun 03 00:04 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <immibis "or give the drivers more guns?"> Everyone should have a gun, assuming they don't have a felony record or extremely serious mental illness. | Jun 03 00:04 |
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tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i think that climate change is real and bad but also that climtae hysteria is dumb and has nothing to do with solving the problem | Jun 03 00:05 |
ornxka/lc | i think that climate change is real and bad but also that climtae hysteria is dumb and has nothing to do with solving the problem | Jun 03 00:05 |
BaronVladimirHar | Strangely, the Democrats don't appear to have considered that raising the cost of living and the price of labor doesn't work well when there's another state 8 miles away. | Jun 03 00:05 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Strangely, the Democrats don't appear to have considered that raising the cost of living and the price of labor doesn't work well when there's another state 8 miles away. | Jun 03 00:05 |
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wRTPlkZvOiQt | Andrxew LeeN rlikeIs Qsucking hot asian Pguy's dicIks aCnd DhQas ap cuhode himselfa. | Jun 03 00:05 |
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wRTPlkZvOiQt/fn | Andrxew LeeN rlikeIs Qsucking hot asian Pguy's dicIks aCnd DhQas ap cuhode himselfa. | Jun 03 00:05 |
immibis | uber drivers should use their guns to defend themselves in dangerous neighbourhoods? | Jun 03 00:06 |
immibis/fn | uber drivers should use their guns to defend themselves in dangerous neighbourhoods? | Jun 03 00:06 |
ornxka/lc | instead of understanding how "just ban straws bro" intersects with government overreach while actually making it more difficult to solve the real issues they just call people paranoid climate change deniers and turn to biazarre ascetic rituals like not using paper towels | Jun 03 00:07 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] instead of understanding how "just ban straws bro" intersects with government overreach while actually making it more difficult to solve the real issues they just call people paranoid climate change deniers and turn to biazarre ascetic rituals like not using paper towels | Jun 03 00:07 |
ornxka/lc | did you guys know that recycling anything other than like, glass and metal is basically impossible? | Jun 03 00:07 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] did you guys know that recycling anything other than like, glass and metal is basically impossible? | Jun 03 00:07 |
ornxka/lc | you spend hours every week putting all of your plastic in the right bin and people get all shitty with you if you put plastic in the trash | Jun 03 00:07 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] you spend hours every week putting all of your plastic in the right bin and people get all shitty with you if you put plastic in the trash | Jun 03 00:07 |
ornxka/lc | but all the plastic just gets burnt anyway, it is impossible to recycle plastic except into shit nobody wants | Jun 03 00:08 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] but all the plastic just gets burnt anyway, it is impossible to recycle plastic except into shit nobody wants | Jun 03 00:08 |
ornxka/lc | nobody who claims to care about the environment will tell you this or admit it, its all just a hokey personal religion to them | Jun 03 00:08 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] nobody who claims to care about the environment will tell you this or admit it, its all just a hokey personal religion to them | Jun 03 00:08 |
immibis | what's your proposal, ban packaging other than glass or metal? | Jun 03 00:08 |
immibis/fn | what's your proposal, ban packaging other than glass or metal? | Jun 03 00:08 |
oo/lc | need a way to add disclaimers for the people only here to observe the shit chat from the freenode side but who actually associate themselves with #techrights | Jun 03 00:08 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] need a way to add disclaimers for the people only here to observe the shit chat from the freenode side but who actually associate themselves with #techrights | Jun 03 00:08 |
immibis | fyi, this was hidden from even environmental activists until recently | Jun 03 00:08 |
immibis/fn | fyi, this was hidden from even environmental activists until recently | Jun 03 00:08 |
techrights-bot | 8 Best Free Graphics Editors for Creating Vector Images https://www.maketecheasier.com/free-graphic-editor-for-creating-vector-image/ includes #kde #krita | Jun 03 00:08 |
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ornxka/lc | im more of an "ideas guy" than a "solutions guy" sorry | Jun 03 00:09 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] im more of an "ideas guy" than a "solutions guy" sorry | Jun 03 00:09 |
immibis | big packaging certainly doesn't want environmental activists to know they aren't doing anything | Jun 03 00:09 |
immibis/fn | big packaging certainly doesn't want environmental activists to know they aren't doing anything | Jun 03 00:09 |
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ornxka/lc | if i were in charge i would probably just ban all packaging that isnt either recyclable or burnable | Jun 03 00:11 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] if i were in charge i would probably just ban all packaging that isnt either recyclable or burnable | Jun 03 00:11 |
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oo/lc | why does one bot post a link and the second post the title for the link | Jun 03 00:13 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] why does one bot post a link and the second post the title for the link | Jun 03 00:13 |
oo/lc | can the one that sends notices just fuck off | Jun 03 00:13 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] can the one that sends notices just fuck off | Jun 03 00:13 |
BaronVladimirHar | <immibis "uber drivers should use their gu"> Why not? That does stop them from jacking someone else. | Jun 03 00:13 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <immibis "uber drivers should use their gu"> Why not? That does stop them from jacking someone else. | Jun 03 00:13 |
ornxka/lc | yeah its pretty annoying | Jun 03 00:13 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] yeah its pretty annoying | Jun 03 00:13 |
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techrights-bot | The #zdnet shills are attacking the #fsf again. Please #boycottZDNet ... it's an #ibm and #microsoft propaganda platform (together with OIN and LF). | Jun 03 00:14 |
techrights-bot/fn | The #zdnet shills are attacking the #fsf again. Please #boycottZDNet ... it's an #ibm and #microsoft propaganda platform (together with OIN and LF). | Jun 03 00:14 |
immibis | ornxka: so you'd ban nothing, then | Jun 03 00:14 |
immibis/fn | ornxka: so you'd ban nothing, then | Jun 03 00:14 |
ornxka/lc | isnt it bad to burn plastics | Jun 03 00:14 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] isnt it bad to burn plastics | Jun 03 00:14 |
immibis | you can burn plastics. I believe at high enough temperatures, even the toxic stuff breaks down into boring stuff | Jun 03 00:14 |
immibis/fn | you can burn plastics. I believe at high enough temperatures, even the toxic stuff breaks down into boring stuff | Jun 03 00:14 |
immibis | not 100% sure though | Jun 03 00:15 |
immibis/fn | not 100% sure though | Jun 03 00:15 |
ornxka/lc | or is that another voodoo-tier thing the climate people told us | Jun 03 00:15 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] or is that another voodoo-tier thing the climate people told us | Jun 03 00:15 |
MinceR | 03 004935 < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires who have investments in the alleged solutions? It's never a solution that anyone would live with if market forces were in effect. | Jun 03 00:15 |
MinceR/fn | 03 004935 < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires who have investments in the alleged solutions? It's never a solution that anyone would live with if market forces were in effect. | Jun 03 00:15 |
immibis | from a CO2 perspective, burning plastics is as bad as burning oil | Jun 03 00:15 |
immibis/fn | from a CO2 perspective, burning plastics is as bad as burning oil | Jun 03 00:15 |
MinceR | because other people have more short-term issues | Jun 03 00:15 |
MinceR/fn | because other people have more short-term issues | Jun 03 00:15 |
techrights-bot | #ibm and #microsoft misuse media control (in effect #bribery disguised as advertising) to attack #freesw and communities. | Jun 03 00:15 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ibm and #microsoft misuse media control (in effect #bribery disguised as advertising) to attack #freesw and communities. | Jun 03 00:15 |
oo/lc | < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires | Jun 03 00:15 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires | Jun 03 00:15 |
oo/lc | are you fucking kidding | Jun 03 00:15 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] are you fucking kidding | Jun 03 00:15 |
oo/lc | like every scientist ever is screaming about climate change | Jun 03 00:15 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] like every scientist ever is screaming about climate change | Jun 03 00:15 |
immibis | oo: greta thunberg is about to be a billionaire according to him | Jun 03 00:15 |
immibis/fn | oo: greta thunberg is about to be a billionaire according to him | Jun 03 00:15 |
oo/lc | lol ok pal | Jun 03 00:15 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] lol ok pal | Jun 03 00:15 |
MinceR | people who worry about getting fed next week don't worry that much about earth becoming uninhabitable by humans a few decades or centuries from now | Jun 03 00:15 |
MinceR/fn | people who worry about getting fed next week don't worry that much about earth becoming uninhabitable by humans a few decades or centuries from now | Jun 03 00:16 |
ornxka/lc | baron - i think that "climate change", the hokey religion that revolves around not using paper towels and putting your plastics in the recycling bin and the actual phenomenon of the climate changing are simply not related at all | Jun 03 00:16 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] baron - i think that "climate change", the hokey religion that revolves around not using paper towels and putting your plastics in the recycling bin and the actual phenomenon of the climate changing are simply not related at all | Jun 03 00:16 |
ornxka/lc | you cant start from one and learn anything about the other | Jun 03 00:16 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] you cant start from one and learn anything about the other | Jun 03 00:16 |
BaronVladimirHar | https://wgntv.com/news/bear-tranquilized-after-great-smoky-mountains-visitors-try-to-feed-it-peanut-butter-rangers-say/ | Jun 03 00:16 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | https://wgntv.com/news/bear-tranquilized-after-great-smoky-mountains-visitors-try-to-feed-it-peanut-butter-rangers-say/ | Jun 03 00:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Bear tranquilized after Great Smoky Mountains visitors try to feed it peanut butter, rangers say | WGN-TV | Jun 03 00:16 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | wgntv.com | Bear tranquilized after Great Smoky Mountains visitors try to feed it peanut butter, rangers say | WGN-TV | Jun 03 00:16 |
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BaronVladimirHar | Humans: Feed bear peanut butter. Also humans: Wonder why bear breaks into their cabin and attacks them. MinceR | Jun 03 00:16 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Humans: Feed bear peanut butter. Also humans: Wonder why bear breaks into their cabin and attacks them. MinceR | Jun 03 00:16 |
cfbaEZkHJt | mGschustaer91 2Y days ago [t–]l | Jun 03 00:17 |
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dy/lc | They should have tranquilized the visitors, not the bear. | Jun 03 00:17 |
tr-bridge | [dy/lc] They should have tranquilized the visitors, not the bear. | Jun 03 00:17 |
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tr-bridge | [dy/lc] Little tranq dart to the neck, extract, and deposit outside the park. | Jun 03 00:17 |
dy/lc | Little tranq dart to the neck, extract, and deposit outside the park. | Jun 03 00:17 |
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BaronVladimirHar | <tr-bridge "[dy/lc] Little tranq dart to the"> You forgot tagging where it zaps them if they get too close to the park again. | Jun 03 00:18 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <tr-bridge "[dy/lc] Little tranq dart to the"> You forgot tagging where it zaps them if they get too close to the park again. | Jun 03 00:18 |
BaronVladimirHar | :) | Jun 03 00:18 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | :) | Jun 03 00:18 |
BaronVladimirHar | It'll condition about 99% of them to not try again. | Jun 03 00:18 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | It'll condition about 99% of them to not try again. | Jun 03 00:18 |
immibis | just give the bear a gun to defend itself with | Jun 03 00:18 |
immibis/fn | just give the bear a gun to defend itself with | Jun 03 00:18 |
MinceR | ornxka/lc: "climate change" is the term "republicans" came up with when they banned the term "global warming" where they had enough power to do so | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR/fn | ornxka/lc: "climate change" is the term "republicans" came up with when they banned the term "global warming" where they had enough power to do so | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR | but now even "climate change" triggers them | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR/fn | but now even "climate change" triggers them | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR | immibis: the bear already has claws, fangs and great strength | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: the bear already has claws, fangs and great strength | Jun 03 00:19 |
oo/lc | do yall really not understand climate change | Jun 03 00:19 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] do yall really not understand climate change | Jun 03 00:19 |
ornxka/lc | mincer: have you ever actually seen a republican? i havent | Jun 03 00:19 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] mincer: have you ever actually seen a republican? i havent | Jun 03 00:19 |
oo/lc | i thought we were over this | Jun 03 00:19 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] i thought we were over this | Jun 03 00:19 |
BaronVladimirHar | <immibis "just give the bear a gun to defe"> I think weighing about 900 pounds and having teeth and claws achieves that. For the most part. | Jun 03 00:19 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <immibis "just give the bear a gun to defe"> I think weighing about 900 pounds and having teeth and claws achieves that. For the most part. | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR | ornxka/lc: i don't live in the USA | Jun 03 00:19 |
MinceR/fn | ornxka/lc: i don't live in the USA | Jun 03 00:19 |
BaronVladimirHar | Yeah, I want that thing to get closer to me... | Jun 03 00:19 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Yeah, I want that thing to get closer to me... | Jun 03 00:19 |
immibis | well then why do you need to tranquilize the humans? Just let the bear defend itself | Jun 03 00:19 |
immibis/fn | well then why do you need to tranquilize the humans? Just let the bear defend itself | Jun 03 00:19 |
jessicara | i don't think claws are a good ranged attack | Jun 03 00:19 |
jessicara/fn | i don't think claws are a good ranged attack | Jun 03 00:19 |
immibis | it has a right to self-defense | Jun 03 00:20 |
immibis/fn | it has a right to self-defense | Jun 03 00:20 |
XRevan86 | oo: The greenhouse gases == bad thing? | Jun 03 00:20 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] oo: The greenhouse gases == bad thing? | Jun 03 00:20 |
ornxka/lc | mincer: anyone who complains about republicans is an american, no matter what country you are from or live in | Jun 03 00:20 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] mincer: anyone who complains about republicans is an american, no matter what country you are from or live in | Jun 03 00:20 |
BaronVladimirHar | The right to bear arms. | Jun 03 00:20 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The right to bear arms. | Jun 03 00:20 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 00:20 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 00:20 |
oo/lc | XRevan86: right | Jun 03 00:20 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] XRevan86: right | Jun 03 00:20 |
ornxka/lc | you are laughing but i am serious, americanism is a state of mind | Jun 03 00:20 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] you are laughing but i am serious, americanism is a state of mind | Jun 03 00:20 |
ornxka/lc | you arrive at it by watching too much television and tabloid magazines and actually setting foot here is not requires | Jun 03 00:21 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] you arrive at it by watching too much television and tabloid magazines and actually setting foot here is not requires | Jun 03 00:21 |
MinceR | well, we have our own "conservatives" who to some extent copy the "republicans" | Jun 03 00:21 |
MinceR/fn | well, we have our own "conservatives" who to some extent copy the "republicans" | Jun 03 00:21 |
jessicara | also glass bottles tend to result in drinks which taste better than plastic bottles, i think both plastic and aliminum tend to leech their environment over time in storage... | Jun 03 00:21 |
jessicara/fn | also glass bottles tend to result in drinks which taste better than plastic bottles, i think both plastic and aliminum tend to leech their environment over time in storage... | Jun 03 00:21 |
immibis | most countries have their equivalent of republicans. American republicans are, like, 10% dumber than all the rest | Jun 03 00:21 |
immibis/fn | most countries have their equivalent of republicans. American republicans are, like, 10% dumber than all the rest | Jun 03 00:21 |
XRevan86 | ornxkapechal-bieda | Jun 03 00:21 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] ornxkapechal-bieda | Jun 03 00:21 |
XRevan86 | ornxka: pechal'-bieda | Jun 03 00:21 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] ornxka: pechal'-bieda | Jun 03 00:21 |
oo/lc | i think american republicans export their shit views to the rest of the world for the most part | Jun 03 00:21 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] i think american republicans export their shit views to the rest of the world for the most part | Jun 03 00:21 |
MinceR | jessicara: PET does leach, that's why they tell you not to reuse PET bottles | Jun 03 00:21 |
MinceR/fn | jessicara: PET does leach, that's why they tell you not to reuse PET bottles | Jun 03 00:21 |
oo/lc | e.g. australia media is influenced a lot by american fuckery | Jun 03 00:21 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] e.g. australia media is influenced a lot by american fuckery | Jun 03 00:21 |
immibis | why would using one bottle twice be any worse than using two different bottles? | Jun 03 00:21 |
immibis/fn | why would using one bottle twice be any worse than using two different bottles? | Jun 03 00:21 |
ornxka/lc | xreven86: if i was supposed to understand that i didnt :p | Jun 03 00:22 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] xreven86: if i was supposed to understand that i didnt :p | Jun 03 00:22 |
techrights-bot | #Krita and #KDEItinerary • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151878 #KDE #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 00:22 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Krita and #KDEItinerary • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151878 #KDE #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 00:22 |
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MinceR | PET bottles age and are subjected to physical stress, which is claimed to accelerate leaching of phthalates | Jun 03 00:22 |
MinceR/fn | PET bottles age and are subjected to physical stress, which is claimed to accelerate leaching of phthalates | Jun 03 00:22 |
XRevan86 | oo: It's just a set-up in case I get accused of Americanism too :) | Jun 03 00:22 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] oo: It's just a set-up in case I get accused of Americanism too :) | Jun 03 00:22 |
XRevan86 | MinceR is not from an English-speaking country either. | Jun 03 00:22 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR is not from an English-speaking country either. | Jun 03 00:22 |
MinceR | indeed | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR/fn | indeed | Jun 03 00:23 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] speaking english, as any american will tell you, is not a requirement to be an american | Jun 03 00:23 |
ornxka/lc | speaking english, as any american will tell you, is not a requirement to be an american | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR | some of them will tell you it is | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR/fn | some of them will tell you it is | Jun 03 00:23 |
XRevan86 | nor a Spanish-speaking country | Jun 03 00:23 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] nor a Spanish-speaking country | Jun 03 00:23 |
ornxka/lc | americans constitute most of the earth's population | Jun 03 00:23 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] americans constitute most of the earth's population | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR | though not a sufficient one | Jun 03 00:23 |
MinceR/fn | though not a sufficient one | Jun 03 00:23 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] ornxka: the fuck | Jun 03 00:23 |
oo/lc | ornxka: the fuck | Jun 03 00:23 |
techrights-bot | Eben Moglen: #GCC Drops Requirement of #Copyright Assignment to #FSF https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ | Jun 03 00:23 |
techrights-bot/fn | Eben Moglen: #GCC Drops Requirement of #Copyright Assignment to #FSF https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ | Jun 03 00:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softwarefreedom.org | GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 03 00:23 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights | Jun 03 00:23 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.softwarefreedom.org | GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 03 00:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights | Jun 03 00:23 |
oo/lc | who runs that fucking bot | Jun 03 00:24 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] who runs that fucking bot | Jun 03 00:24 |
humble/lc | superkuh I think | Jun 03 00:25 |
tr-bridge | [humble/lc] superkuh I think | Jun 03 00:25 |
superkuh/lc | Nope. | Jun 03 00:25 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/lc] Nope. | Jun 03 00:25 |
techrights-bot | #SJVN Attacks Stallman again (ZDNet) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29842 #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Jun 03 00:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:25 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jun 03 00:25 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #SJVN Attacks Stallman again (ZDNet) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29842 #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Jun 03 00:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jun 03 00:25 |
XRevan86 | oo: "TechrightsBot-tr" ye mean? | Jun 03 00:26 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] oo: "TechrightsBot-tr" ye mean? | Jun 03 00:26 |
humble/lc | tr-bridge | Jun 03 00:26 |
tr-bridge | [humble/lc] tr-bridge | Jun 03 00:26 |
BaronVladimirHar | The FSF would still have the copyright on so much of the code that they could still enforce it. | Jun 03 00:26 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The FSF would still have the copyright on so much of the code that they could still enforce it. | Jun 03 00:26 |
MinceR | except in Germany :> | Jun 03 00:26 |
MinceR/fn | except in Germany :> | Jun 03 00:26 |
XRevan86 | oo, humble: I do. Was that a bad idea? | Jun 03 00:26 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] oo, humble: I do. Was that a bad idea? | Jun 03 00:26 |
dy/lc | What's a copyright? | Jun 03 00:26 |
tr-bridge | [dy/lc] What's a copyright? | Jun 03 00:26 |
dy/lc | Is that like a copyleft? | Jun 03 00:27 |
tr-bridge | [dy/lc] Is that like a copyleft? | Jun 03 00:27 |
techrights-bot | #KaliLinux 2021.2 released: Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, new tools, and more! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29843 | Jun 03 00:27 |
MinceR | and in any other jurisdiction where that vmware bullshit flies | Jun 03 00:27 |
techrights-bot/fn | #KaliLinux 2021.2 released: Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, new tools, and more! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29843 | Jun 03 00:27 |
MinceR/fn | and in any other jurisdiction where that vmware bullshit flies | Jun 03 00:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:27 |
oo/lc | It's just severely annoying having it drop long links and texts and then another bot sends notices with the titles of links | Jun 03 00:27 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] It's just severely annoying having it drop long links and texts and then another bot sends notices with the titles of links | Jun 03 00:27 |
XRevan86 | So TechrightsBot-tr, not tr-bridge | Jun 03 00:27 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] So TechrightsBot-tr, not tr-bridge | Jun 03 00:27 |
oo/lc | right | Jun 03 00:28 |
tr-bridge | [oo/lc] right | Jun 03 00:28 |
immibis | dy: copyright is like copyleft but free-market instead of communist | Jun 03 00:28 |
immibis/fn | dy: copyright is like copyleft but free-market instead of communist | Jun 03 00:28 |
immibis | it's in the name, copyRIGHT | Jun 03 00:28 |
immibis/fn | it's in the name, copyRIGHT | Jun 03 00:28 |
MinceR | they're both free-market | Jun 03 00:28 |
MinceR/fn | they're both free-market | Jun 03 00:28 |
XRevan86 | Well, that's on schestowitz, I don't know how that's set-up. It could be hard to make it ignore messages from the other bot, dunno. | Jun 03 00:28 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Well, that's on schestowitz, I don't know how that's set-up. It could be hard to make it ignore messages from the other bot, dunno. | Jun 03 00:28 |
MinceR | to some extent | Jun 03 00:28 |
MinceR/fn | to some extent | Jun 03 00:28 |
immibis | no, copyleft perverts the free market to enforce communist norms | Jun 03 00:29 |
immibis/fn | no, copyleft perverts the free market to enforce communist norms | Jun 03 00:29 |
MinceR | copyleft is a hack on top of copyright to try to get people to contribute more to free software projects they use | Jun 03 00:29 |
MinceR/fn | copyleft is a hack on top of copyright to try to get people to contribute more to free software projects they use | Jun 03 00:29 |
XRevan86 | immibis: That's a funny take. Of course, not true at all. | Jun 03 00:29 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: That's a funny take. Of course, not true at all. | Jun 03 00:29 |
BaronVladimirHar | Someone invited me to a franchise opportunity event. :) | Jun 03 00:29 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Someone invited me to a franchise opportunity event. :) | Jun 03 00:29 |
MinceR | then again, i guess it means what you mean by "communist" | Jun 03 00:29 |
MinceR/fn | then again, i guess it means what you mean by "communist" | Jun 03 00:29 |
BaronVladimirHar | The whole point of franchising is to outsource risk. | Jun 03 00:29 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The whole point of franchising is to outsource risk. | Jun 03 00:29 |
BaronVladimirHar | Subway is doing so bad that someone who I know told me their boss made them pull expired bread out of the trash and start making sandwiches out of it again. | Jun 03 00:30 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Subway is doing so bad that someone who I know told me their boss made them pull expired bread out of the trash and start making sandwiches out of it again. | Jun 03 00:30 |
MinceR | if you mean what was implemented under the name (for example, in the previous russian empire), then there are some highly effective copyright abusers (like microsoft) that are exemplars of that sort of authoritarian central control set-up | Jun 03 00:30 |
MinceR/fn | if you mean what was implemented under the name (for example, in the previous russian empire), then there are some highly effective copyright abusers (like microsoft) that are exemplars of that sort of authoritarian central control set-up | Jun 03 00:30 |
MinceR | things like microsoft telling you what OS you're allowed on your computer | Jun 03 00:30 |
MinceR/fn | things like microsoft telling you what OS you're allowed on your computer | Jun 03 00:30 |
MinceR | s/wed/wed to boot/ | Jun 03 00:31 |
MinceR/fn | s/wed/wed to boot/ | Jun 03 00:31 |
MinceR | and that isn't very "free-market" :> | Jun 03 00:31 |
MinceR/fn | and that isn't very "free-market" :> | Jun 03 00:31 |
techrights-bot | They talk about #security but outsource to #ProprietarySoftware of #microsoft #nsa (PRISM). #deletegithub or be assumed 'fake security' https://www.suse.com/c/suse-guest-blog-by-reblaze/ | Jun 03 00:31 |
techrights-bot/fn | They talk about #security but outsource to #ProprietarySoftware of #microsoft #nsa (PRISM). #deletegithub or be assumed 'fake security' https://www.suse.com/c/suse-guest-blog-by-reblaze/ | Jun 03 00:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Guest Blog by Reblaze | SUSE Communities | Jun 03 00:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | SUSE Guest Blog by Reblaze | SUSE Communities | Jun 03 00:31 |
XRevan86 | "right" is an ambiguous word, and in "copyright" it has nothing to do with the directional right (nor the derived right-wingness) | Jun 03 00:31 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] "right" is an ambiguous word, and in "copyright" it has nothing to do with the directional right (nor the derived right-wingness) | Jun 03 00:31 |
MinceR | indeed | Jun 03 00:32 |
MinceR/fn | indeed | Jun 03 00:32 |
XRevan86 | being a captain obvious just in case someone takes that seriously | Jun 03 00:32 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] being a captain obvious just in case someone takes that seriously | Jun 03 00:32 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 03 00:32 |
MinceR/fn | :> | Jun 03 00:32 |
immibis | it does have to do with rights. copyRIGHT means you get rights. copyLEFT means you don't | Jun 03 00:32 |
immibis/fn | it does have to do with rights. copyRIGHT means you get rights. copyLEFT means you don't | Jun 03 00:32 |
techrights-bot | #TiledMenu in #Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 00:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiled Menu in Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:32 | |
BaronVladimirHar | I wonder if the library is still closed, by the left, while they still tax you to use it. | Jun 03 00:32 |
techrights-bot/fn | #TiledMenu in #Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 00:32 |
immibis | copyleft means you get venezuela | Jun 03 00:32 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I wonder if the library is still closed, by the left, while they still tax you to use it. | Jun 03 00:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Tiled Menu in Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:32 |
immibis/fn | copyleft means you get venezuela | Jun 03 00:32 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 00:32 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 00:32 |
MinceR | copyleft depends on copyright to function | Jun 03 00:33 |
MinceR/fn | copyleft depends on copyright to function | Jun 03 00:33 |
XRevan86 | immibis: "copyleft" is a pun on "copyright" to present it as special | Jun 03 00:33 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: "copyleft" is a pun on "copyright" to present it as special | Jun 03 00:33 |
BaronVladimirHar | Speaking of copyright, a lot of my tax money goes to have our library "participate" in a ebook scheme that never has anything available worth reading. | Jun 03 00:33 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Speaking of copyright, a lot of my tax money goes to have our library "participate" in a ebook scheme that never has anything available worth reading. | Jun 03 00:33 |
BaronVladimirHar | And this scheme limits the number of "copies" checked out as if they were a physical book, even though it's a file on a server. | Jun 03 00:34 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | And this scheme limits the number of "copies" checked out as if they were a physical book, even though it's a file on a server. | Jun 03 00:34 |
XRevan86 | copyleft (and any kind of licensing) is a form of copyright | Jun 03 00:34 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] copyleft (and any kind of licensing) is a form of copyright | Jun 03 00:34 |
techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 00:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:34 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 00:34 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 00:34 |
XRevan86 | one cannot escape copyright | Jun 03 00:34 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] one cannot escape copyright | Jun 03 00:34 |
immibis | XRevan86: do we support people using their rights to take away others' rights? | Jun 03 00:34 |
immibis/fn | XRevan86: do we support people using their rights to take away others' rights? | Jun 03 00:34 |
XRevan86 | those who claim to have escaped copyright are in denial | Jun 03 00:34 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] those who claim to have escaped copyright are in denial | Jun 03 00:34 |
ornxka/lc | https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH i wonder if this will do what i think it does | Jun 03 00:34 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH i wonder if this will do what i think it does | Jun 03 00:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH - Pastebin.com | Jun 03 00:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH - Pastebin.com | Jun 03 00:34 |
ornxka/lc | aw it doesnt | Jun 03 00:35 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] aw it doesnt | Jun 03 00:35 |
ornxka/lc | i was wondering if it would get in a loop | Jun 03 00:35 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i was wondering if it would get in a loop | Jun 03 00:35 |
ornxka/lc | what a shame! | Jun 03 00:35 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] what a shame! | Jun 03 00:35 |
MinceR | TechrightsBot-tr uses notices | Jun 03 00:35 |
MinceR/fn | TechrightsBot-tr uses notices | Jun 03 00:35 |
ornxka/lc | ahhh | Jun 03 00:35 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] ahhh | Jun 03 00:35 |
MinceR | as RFC 1459 specifies, bots are not supposed to reply to notices | Jun 03 00:35 |
MinceR/fn | as RFC 1459 specifies, bots are not supposed to reply to notices | Jun 03 00:35 |
XRevan86 | ah | Jun 03 00:35 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] ah | Jun 03 00:35 |
BaronVladimirHar | Teaching people to read is only part of the problem. Half of all Americans are like, functionally illiterate at this point, and are making up "fuck it, I give up halfway through, oh and I was drunk too" ebonics words. | Jun 03 00:35 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Teaching people to read is only part of the problem. Half of all Americans are like, functionally illiterate at this point, and are making up "fuck it, I give up halfway through, oh and I was drunk too" ebonics words. | Jun 03 00:35 |
BaronVladimirHar | Mostly about pussy and drugs. | Jun 03 00:35 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Mostly about pussy and drugs. | Jun 03 00:35 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Are techrights-bot's messages notices? | Jun 03 00:36 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Are techrights-bot's messages notices? | Jun 03 00:36 |
MinceR | no | Jun 03 00:36 |
MinceR/fn | no | Jun 03 00:36 |
XRevan86 | Because they're what TechrightsBot-tr replies with a notice to | Jun 03 00:36 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Because they're what TechrightsBot-tr replies with a notice to | Jun 03 00:36 |
MinceR | perhaps intentionally, so that we get URL titles :> | Jun 03 00:36 |
MinceR/fn | perhaps intentionally, so that we get URL titles :> | Jun 03 00:36 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: They're complaining about exactly that, as they get redundant. | Jun 03 00:36 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: They're complaining about exactly that, as they get redundant. | Jun 03 00:36 |
MinceR | well, it's out of my hands :) | Jun 03 00:37 |
MinceR/fn | well, it's out of my hands :) | Jun 03 00:37 |
XRevan86 | And out of mine. | Jun 03 00:37 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] And out of mine. | Jun 03 00:37 |
XRevan86 | immibis: That's a very abstract question. | Jun 03 00:37 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: That's a very abstract question. | Jun 03 00:37 |
BaronVladimirHar | MinceR: Mom was on the phone last night recalling a race that her ex-husband Gonad the Barbarian took them to. They were camping. | Jun 03 00:37 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | MinceR: Mom was on the phone last night recalling a race that her ex-husband Gonad the Barbarian took them to. They were camping. | Jun 03 00:37 |
XRevan86 | immibis: And copyleft is a lot less restrictive than any proprietary EULA is. | Jun 03 00:37 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: And copyleft is a lot less restrictive than any proprietary EULA is. | Jun 03 00:37 |
MinceR | immibis: i can't speak for others, but i'd gladly give up copyright if it meant getting rid of all Imaginary Property | Jun 03 00:38 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: i can't speak for others, but i'd gladly give up copyright if it meant getting rid of all Imaginary Property | Jun 03 00:38 |
BaronVladimirHar | One of his friends brought their 18 and 19 year olds with them. One of them met a woman who said they'd go in the port a potty and have sex, and as soon as she got his pants off, she ran off with them and his wallet. | Jun 03 00:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | One of his friends brought their 18 and 19 year olds with them. One of them met a woman who said they'd go in the port a potty and have sex, and as soon as she got his pants off, she ran off with them and his wallet. | Jun 03 00:38 |
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XRevan86 | as free software by design allows a lot more than any proprietary software | Jun 03 00:38 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] as free software by design allows a lot more than any proprietary software | Jun 03 00:38 |
BaronVladimirHar | He ended up spending the entire day in a port a potty, naked, and lost his wallet. | Jun 03 00:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | He ended up spending the entire day in a port a potty, naked, and lost his wallet. | Jun 03 00:38 |
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BaronVladimirHar | Some people just have to learn everything the worst way possible. | Jun 03 00:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Some people just have to learn everything the worst way possible. | Jun 03 00:38 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 00:38 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 00:38 |
XRevan86 | immibis: Since ye're comparing not to permissive licences but to copyright in general, no, copyleft allows more, not less. | Jun 03 00:38 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Since ye're comparing not to permissive licences but to copyright in general, no, copyleft allows more, not less. | Jun 03 00:38 |
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immibis | hmm, you are saying microsoft they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with their property | Jun 03 00:39 |
immibis/fn | hmm, you are saying microsoft they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with their property | Jun 03 00:39 |
immibis | s/they// | Jun 03 00:39 |
immibis/fn | s/they// | Jun 03 00:39 |
MinceR | no, they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with _my_ property | Jun 03 00:39 |
MinceR/fn | no, they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with _my_ property | Jun 03 00:39 |
MinceR | they should get their tentacles out of the IT industry | Jun 03 00:40 |
MinceR/fn | they should get their tentacles out of the IT industry | Jun 03 00:40 |
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MinceR/fn | if they stopped forcing their crap on me, i'd gladly not touch any of it ever again | Jun 03 00:40 |
MinceR | if they stopped forcing their crap on me, i'd gladly not touch any of it ever again | Jun 03 00:40 |
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immibis | microsoft shouldn't have the right to not publish their source code, but we should have the right to not publish our source code | Jun 03 00:40 |
immibis/fn | microsoft shouldn't have the right to not publish their source code, but we should have the right to not publish our source code | Jun 03 00:40 |
MinceR | i shouldn't have to care about what they do or do not publish | Jun 03 00:41 |
MinceR/fn | i shouldn't have to care about what they do or do not publish | Jun 03 00:41 |
BaronVladimirHar | MinceR: You mean you aren't excited about WinGet? | Jun 03 00:41 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | MinceR: You mean you aren't excited about WinGet? | Jun 03 00:41 |
MinceR | what's that? | Jun 03 00:41 |
MinceR/fn | what's that? | Jun 03 00:41 |
BaronVladimirHar | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/ | Jun 03 00:41 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/ | Jun 03 00:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | Use the winget tool to install and manage applications | Microsoft Docs | Jun 03 00:41 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | docs.microsoft.com | Use the winget tool to install and manage applications | Microsoft Docs | Jun 03 00:41 |
MinceR | no, i'm not | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR/fn | no, i'm not | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR | i'm sure they've fucked it up without even looking at it | Jun 03 00:42 |
ornxka/lc | arent they like.. 30 years behind lol | Jun 03 00:42 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] arent they like.. 30 years behind lol | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR/fn | i'm sure they've fucked it up without even looking at it | Jun 03 00:42 |
XRevan86 | immibis: Ye are not making sense, how is someone else's licensing infringing on your copyright? | Jun 03 00:42 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Ye are not making sense, how is someone else's licensing infringing on your copyright? | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR | depends on whom you're comparing them to | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR/fn | depends on whom you're comparing them to | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR | gnome os is in the process of copying them :> | Jun 03 00:42 |
MinceR/fn | gnome os is in the process of copying them :> | Jun 03 00:42 |
XRevan86 | immibis: Copyleft means that ye cannot *take* other's code and do absolutely everything with it like making closed-source derivatives. | Jun 03 00:43 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Copyleft means that ye cannot *take* other's code and do absolutely everything with it like making closed-source derivatives. | Jun 03 00:43 |
ornxka/lc | i started using both windows and kde recently at the same time and realized they are basically identical in terms of UI | Jun 03 00:43 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i started using both windows and kde recently at the same time and realized they are basically identical in terms of UI | Jun 03 00:43 |
XRevan86 | immibis: In contrast, ye cannot make derivatives of Microsoft EULA's code in any shape or form. It's straight up illegal to possess their source code. | Jun 03 00:43 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: In contrast, ye cannot make derivatives of Microsoft EULA's code in any shape or form. It's straight up illegal to possess their source code. | Jun 03 00:43 |
XRevan86 | immibis: So please understand what all this stuff is about first and then judge. | Jun 03 00:44 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: So please understand what all this stuff is about first and then judge. | Jun 03 00:44 |
ornxka/lc | its a real shame how linux DE stuff is now basically either "spend days tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell first" or "essentially identical to windows except nothing works" | Jun 03 00:45 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] its a real shame how linux DE stuff is now basically either "spend days tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell first" or "essentially identical to windows except nothing works" | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR | it's not really just that | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR/fn | it's not really just that | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR | though writing an fvwm config did take some effort | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR/fn | though writing an fvwm config did take some effort | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR | and if nothing works then that is indeed identical to windows | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR/fn | and if nothing works then that is indeed identical to windows | Jun 03 00:45 |
ornxka/lc | yeah thats pretty close to "tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell" | Jun 03 00:45 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] yeah thats pretty close to "tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell" | Jun 03 00:45 |
MinceR | fvwm config is a lot easier to learn than haskell though | Jun 03 00:46 |
MinceR/fn | fvwm config is a lot easier to learn than haskell though | Jun 03 00:46 |
ornxka/lc | i am moving to fvwm from dwm and i actually have spent more time on the fvwm config than i did on literally just writing the dwm patches i needed to get it to do what i want | Jun 03 00:46 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i am moving to fvwm from dwm and i actually have spent more time on the fvwm config than i did on literally just writing the dwm patches i needed to get it to do what i want | Jun 03 00:46 |
MinceR | icewm works with minimal configuration, and is pretty usable | Jun 03 00:46 |
MinceR/fn | icewm works with minimal configuration, and is pretty usable | Jun 03 00:46 |
ornxka/lc | yeah i ended up going with icewm actually on the kde machine | Jun 03 00:46 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] yeah i ended up going with icewm actually on the kde machine | Jun 03 00:47 |
ornxka/lc | (the formerly kde machine, which is different from the one i am using fvwm on) | Jun 03 00:47 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] (the formerly kde machine, which is different from the one i am using fvwm on) | Jun 03 00:47 |
BaronVladimirHar | IBM manages to replace things with stuff that's even more convoluted and unreliable than a stack of patches on top of something developed in the 1980s. | Jun 03 00:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | IBM manages to replace things with stuff that's even more convoluted and unreliable than a stack of patches on top of something developed in the 1980s. | Jun 03 00:48 |
BaronVladimirHar | It's just unbelievable how bad their stuff is. | Jun 03 00:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | It's just unbelievable how bad their stuff is. | Jun 03 00:48 |
MinceR | part of that is because they believe that convoluted and unreliable is "modern" | Jun 03 00:49 |
MinceR/fn | part of that is because they believe that convoluted and unreliable is "modern" | Jun 03 00:49 |
ornxka/lc | i once heard somebody say that most programming work is just people generating work for other people without contributing to solving the problem at all | Jun 03 00:49 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i once heard somebody say that most programming work is just people generating work for other people without contributing to solving the problem at all | Jun 03 00:49 |
ornxka/lc | ie, completely self-inflicted | Jun 03 00:49 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] ie, completely self-inflicted | Jun 03 00:49 |
ornxka/lc | i believe it 100% | Jun 03 00:50 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i believe it 100% | Jun 03 00:50 |
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immibis | you may be thinking of "accidental complexity" | Jun 03 00:50 |
immibis/fn | you may be thinking of "accidental complexity" | Jun 03 00:50 |
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ornxka/lc | yeah, i think thats it | Jun 03 00:50 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] yeah, i think thats it | Jun 03 00:50 |
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ornxka/lc | i switched to dwm after awesomewm was using al lof my memory | Jun 03 00:51 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i switched to dwm after awesomewm was using al lof my memory | Jun 03 00:51 |
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ornxka/lc | and i couldnt be bothered figuring out what the problem was behind however many lines of code it is (they have written their own gui framework?) and a LUA interpreter | Jun 03 00:51 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] and i couldnt be bothered figuring out what the problem was behind however many lines of code it is (they have written their own gui framework?) and a LUA interpreter | Jun 03 00:51 |
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ornxka/lc | so i figured i was better off using something i could easily understand and modify myself, and after a bit of patching it did the same things i needed awesome to do in about 2k lines of c (of which maybe a hundred or two were my patches) | Jun 03 00:52 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] so i figured i was better off using something i could easily understand and modify myself, and after a bit of patching it did the same things i needed awesome to do in about 2k lines of c (of which maybe a hundred or two were my patches) | Jun 03 00:52 |
superkuh | I've been using gnome2/MATE since I switched to linux in 2004. But gtk itself underpinning the MATE desktop has gotten so bad the last 6 years that MATE is effectively broken in terms of File->Open dialogs. It's been fully GNOME'd despite attempts to prevent it. | Jun 03 00:52 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] I've been using gnome2/MATE since I switched to linux in 2004. But gtk itself underpinning the MATE desktop has gotten so bad the last 6 years that MATE is effectively broken in terms of File->Open dialogs. It's been fully GNOME'd despite attempts to prevent it. | Jun 03 00:52 |
ornxka/lc | >fully GNOME'd | Jun 03 00:53 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] >fully GNOME'd | Jun 03 00:53 |
ornxka/lc | truly a terrible fate | Jun 03 00:53 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] truly a terrible fate | Jun 03 00:53 |
MinceR | gnome2 was already a bad base to start with | Jun 03 00:53 |
MinceR/fn | gnome2 was already a bad base to start with | Jun 03 00:53 |
MinceR | gnome1 was so much better | Jun 03 00:54 |
MinceR/fn | gnome1 was so much better | Jun 03 00:54 |
ornxka/lc | i wonder sometimes like.. what does all that code even do | Jun 03 00:55 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] i wonder sometimes like.. what does all that code even do | Jun 03 00:55 |
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ornxka/lc | if i could get dwm to do what awesome did in like 10% of the code, wtf was the rest for | Jun 03 00:55 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] if i could get dwm to do what awesome did in like 10% of the code, wtf was the rest for | Jun 03 00:55 |
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ornxka/lc | does gnome really need ?,???,??? lines of code | Jun 03 00:56 |
tr-bridge | [ornxka/lc] does gnome really need ?,???,??? lines of code | Jun 03 00:56 |
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immibis | what do we think about all the freenode channels being +m ? | Jun 03 01:00 |
immibis/fn | what do we think about all the freenode channels being +m ? | Jun 03 01:00 |
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jessicara | quickest way to silence spam temporarily i guess | Jun 03 01:01 |
jessicara/fn | quickest way to silence spam temporarily i guess | Jun 03 01:01 |
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immibis | a bit hypocritical | Jun 03 01:05 |
immibis/fn | a bit hypocritical | Jun 03 01:05 |
MinceR | it's sad, but for most of it, it's too late to do anything | Jun 03 01:05 |
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CrystalMath | MinceR: if this is due to neoliberia, it's a policy violation and you can report it | Jun 03 01:08 |
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MinceR | and accomplish nothing | Jun 03 01:08 |
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MinceR | most of it is on single # channels, which are closed per policy and you're supposed to go to the ## equivalent | Jun 03 01:08 |
MinceR/fn | most of it is on single # channels, which are closed per policy and you're supposed to go to the ## equivalent | Jun 03 01:08 |
immibis | CrystalMath: the channel is #freenode | Jun 03 01:08 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: the channel is #freenode | Jun 03 01:08 |
CrystalMath | immibis: oh heh, no, that did not move :P | Jun 03 01:08 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: oh heh, no, that did not move :P | Jun 03 01:08 |
MinceR | should have said so | Jun 03 01:09 |
MinceR/fn | should have said so | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath | but that one is also +z, the ops can see your messages | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | but that one is also +z, the ops can see your messages | Jun 03 01:09 |
immibis | but i've requested it many times and it has not been redirected, opened, or given to me | Jun 03 01:09 |
immibis/fn | but i've requested it many times and it has not been redirected, opened, or given to me | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath | lol! | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | lol! | Jun 03 01:09 |
MinceR | well, it's sad that freenode staff believes they don't have enough resources to moderate it properly | Jun 03 01:09 |
MinceR/fn | well, it's sad that freenode staff believes they don't have enough resources to moderate it properly | Jun 03 01:09 |
MinceR | not that it was better before | Jun 03 01:09 |
MinceR/fn | not that it was better before | Jun 03 01:09 |
immibis | CrystalMath: wait are you saying that a +mz channel is considered open, not closed? | Jun 03 01:09 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: wait are you saying that a +mz channel is considered open, not closed? | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath | immibis: idk | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: idk | Jun 03 01:09 |
CrystalMath | depends if it's normal | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath/fn | depends if it's normal | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath | like #ardour was always like that | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath/fn | like #ardour was always like that | Jun 03 01:10 |
jessicara | open would be slow voicing | Jun 03 01:10 |
jessicara/fn | open would be slow voicing | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath | then you say something to a bot | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath/fn | then you say something to a bot | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath | and it voices you | Jun 03 01:10 |
CrystalMath/fn | and it voices you | Jun 03 01:10 |
immibis | #freenode doesn't have that bot | Jun 03 01:10 |
immibis/fn | #freenode doesn't have that bot | Jun 03 01:10 |
jessicara | for a support-only channel though it does make sense to +mz | Jun 03 01:10 |
jessicara/fn | for a support-only channel though it does make sense to +mz | Jun 03 01:10 |
jessicara | less disruption of new people with no idea | Jun 03 01:10 |
jessicara/fn | less disruption of new people with no idea | Jun 03 01:10 |
immibis | so any channel moving to notfascistnode can just set +mz and then claim to be a support-only channel | Jun 03 01:11 |
immibis/fn | so any channel moving to notfascistnode can just set +mz and then claim to be a support-only channel | Jun 03 01:11 |
jessicara | as a general solution to all spamming.. no | Jun 03 01:11 |
jessicara/fn | as a general solution to all spamming.. no | Jun 03 01:11 |
immibis | and then it's ineligible to be stolen? | Jun 03 01:11 |
immibis/fn | and then it's ineligible to be stolen? | Jun 03 01:11 |
CrystalMath | immibis: it depends on if it's advertising some crappy other network | Jun 03 01:12 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: it depends on if it's advertising some crappy other network | Jun 03 01:12 |
immibis | the new policy says channels must remain open. Not that they can close as long as they don't advertise | Jun 03 01:12 |
immibis/fn | the new policy says channels must remain open. Not that they can close as long as they don't advertise | Jun 03 01:12 |
CrystalMath | a closed channel is simply one that doesn't intend to exist | Jun 03 01:12 |
CrystalMath/fn | a closed channel is simply one that doesn't intend to exist | Jun 03 01:12 |
immibis | so if the channel intends to exist as an advertisement it's not closed? | Jun 03 01:13 |
immibis/fn | so if the channel intends to exist as an advertisement it's not closed? | Jun 03 01:13 |
rbraun | ^^^^^^ | Jun 03 01:14 |
rbraun/fn | ^^^^^^ | Jun 03 01:14 |
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BaronVladimirHar | So I'm confused. | Jun 03 01:16 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | So I'm confused. | Jun 03 01:16 |
BaronVladimirHar | After spamming Freenode users and playing nasty tricks, they now bridge Libera Chat into Freenode rooms? | Jun 03 01:16 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | After spamming Freenode users and playing nasty tricks, they now bridge Libera Chat into Freenode rooms? | Jun 03 01:16 |
schestowitz | we seem to be getting spam and abuse from there | Jun 03 01:17 |
schestowitz/fn | we seem to be getting spam and abuse from there | Jun 03 01:17 |
schestowitz | hopefully just a temporary wave of "haters" | Jun 03 01:17 |
schestowitz/fn | hopefully just a temporary wave of "haters" | Jun 03 01:17 |
schestowitz/fn | so much for 'safe space' | Jun 03 01:17 |
schestowitz | so much for 'safe space' | Jun 03 01:17 |
MinceR/fn | it's unlikely to be temporary if that channel is opless | Jun 03 01:17 |
MinceR | it's unlikely to be temporary if that channel is opless | Jun 03 01:17 |
superkuh | The only people spamming were most likely third parties looking to cause chaos at a time of chaos. The format of the the spam was the same as bots have been using for years. | Jun 03 01:17 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] The only people spamming were most likely third parties looking to cause chaos at a time of chaos. The format of the the spam was the same as bots have been using for years. | Jun 03 01:17 |
superkuh | Attributing intentionality to it, from either "side" is probably the very intention of the spammers. | Jun 03 01:17 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] Attributing intentionality to it, from either "side" is probably the very intention of the spammers. | Jun 03 01:17 |
schestowitz | yeah, I know | Jun 03 01:18 |
schestowitz/fn | yeah, I know | Jun 03 01:18 |
XRevan86 | I see legitimate people writing from there too. | Jun 03 01:18 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I see legitimate people writing from there too. | Jun 03 01:18 |
XRevan86 | BaronVladimirHar: Who are "they"? | Jun 03 01:19 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] BaronVladimirHar: Who are "they"? | Jun 03 01:19 |
immibis | BaronVladimirHar: almost like people are not a hivemind. Have you been diagnosed with autism by any chance? Autistic people sometimes don't realize that each person has their own separate mind from all the rest | Jun 03 01:19 |
immibis/fn | BaronVladimirHar: almost like people are not a hivemind. Have you been diagnosed with autism by any chance? Autistic people sometimes don't realize that each person has their own separate mind from all the rest | Jun 03 01:19 |
BaronVladimirHar | <schestowitz "hopefully just a temporary wave "> I thought hate was against the CoC. | Jun 03 01:22 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <schestowitz "hopefully just a temporary wave "> I thought hate was against the CoC. | Jun 03 01:22 |
schestowitz | depends in which direction it is directed | Jun 03 01:23 |
schestowitz/fn | depends in which direction it is directed | Jun 03 01:23 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/11/10/cancel-the-linux-foundation/ | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz/fn | http://techrights.org/2019/11/10/cancel-the-linux-foundation/ | Jun 03 01:24 |
BaronVladimirHar | <immibis "Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: almost"> Depending on which psychiatrist you asked over the years, no. Not autism, but ADHD, Borderline Personality, and Bipolar Disorder. | Jun 03 01:24 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <immibis "Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: almost"> Depending on which psychiatrist you asked over the years, no. Not autism, but ADHD, Borderline Personality, and Bipolar Disorder. | Jun 03 01:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now ‘Cancels’ for Purely Political Reasons | Techrights | Jun 03 01:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now ‘Cancels’ for Purely Political Reasons | Techrights | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz | you can say horrible things about all men | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz/fn | you can say horrible things about all men | Jun 03 01:24 |
BaronVladimirHar | They don't know what they're dealing with so they come up with something and call it a day and then bill the patient's idiot parents. | Jun 03 01:24 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | They don't know what they're dealing with so they come up with something and call it a day and then bill the patient's idiot parents. | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz | or about all white people | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz/fn | or about all white people | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz | generalisation and deductions are OK | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz/fn | generalisation and deductions are OK | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz | inductions also | Jun 03 01:24 |
schestowitz/fn | inductions also | Jun 03 01:24 |
BaronVladimirHar | The only thing I've noticed about psychiatry is they haven't got a clue, and they don't need to because that's not why they exist. | Jun 03 01:25 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The only thing I've noticed about psychiatry is they haven't got a clue, and they don't need to because that's not why they exist. | Jun 03 01:25 |
schestowitz | but it depends who feels the hurt | Jun 03 01:25 |
schestowitz/fn | but it depends who feels the hurt | Jun 03 01:25 |
BaronVladimirHar | They exist to peel troublemakers off from the group, label them, and prevent them from getting the same opportunities. | Jun 03 01:25 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | They exist to peel troublemakers off from the group, label them, and prevent them from getting the same opportunities. | Jun 03 01:25 |
schestowitz | maybe one day there will be cathophopbia | Jun 03 01:25 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe one day there will be cathophopbia | Jun 03 01:25 |
schestowitz | wherein you get banned by bashing the vatican | Jun 03 01:25 |
schestowitz/fn | wherein you get banned by bashing the vatican | Jun 03 01:25 |
BaronVladimirHar | That happened pretty openly in the Soviet Union. Less overtly here.... | Jun 03 01:25 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | That happened pretty openly in the Soviet Union. Less overtly here.... | Jun 03 01:25 |
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BaronVladimirHar | It's easier to read the psychiatrists than it is for them to read their patients. Like most doctors, your "course of treatment" changes to whatever company gave them some free classes or a nice dinner most recently. | Jun 03 01:26 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | It's easier to read the psychiatrists than it is for them to read their patients. Like most doctors, your "course of treatment" changes to whatever company gave them some free classes or a nice dinner most recently. | Jun 03 01:26 |
BaronVladimirHar | I noticed a lot of "patent treadmill" stuff going on with psychiatric meds. | Jun 03 01:27 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I noticed a lot of "patent treadmill" stuff going on with psychiatric meds. | Jun 03 01:27 |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: https://fosshost.org/news/freenode-faq | Jun 03 01:27 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Ariadne: https://fosshost.org/news/freenode-faq | Jun 03 01:27 |
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TechrightsBot-tr/fn | fosshost.org | Fosshost - Freenode FAQ | Jun 03 01:27 |
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BaronVladimirHar | The truth with antipsychotics is that they have not meaningfully improved the situation since the 1980s, and they just come out with new ones (untested) to charge more money for. | Jun 03 01:28 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The truth with antipsychotics is that they have not meaningfully improved the situation since the 1980s, and they just come out with new ones (untested) to charge more money for. | Jun 03 01:28 |
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BaronVladimirHar | People, being ignorant about the situation, go to fill the prescription and end up paying big bucks to be experimented on. | Jun 03 01:28 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | People, being ignorant about the situation, go to fill the prescription and end up paying big bucks to be experimented on. | Jun 03 01:28 |
schestowitz | patent evergreening | Jun 03 01:28 |
schestowitz/fn | patent evergreening | Jun 03 01:28 |
immibis | BaronVladimirHar: the point is, do you realize that people other than you are not a hivemind? | Jun 03 01:28 |
immibis/fn | BaronVladimirHar: the point is, do you realize that people other than you are not a hivemind? | Jun 03 01:28 |
Ariadne | XRevan86: heh | Jun 03 01:29 |
tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] XRevan86: heh | Jun 03 01:29 |
BaronVladimirHar | They are, of course, to some extent. | Jun 03 01:29 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | They are, of course, to some extent. | Jun 03 01:29 |
BaronVladimirHar | Community Standards, law, etc. don't come out of a void, and many individuals don't agree on anything close to the entirety of it. | Jun 03 01:29 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Community Standards, law, etc. don't come out of a void, and many individuals don't agree on anything close to the entirety of it. | Jun 03 01:29 |
BaronVladimirHar | The most vicious and psychopathic people tend to rise to the top and brutalize their critics and then they tend to react, as a group, by shutting up and just trying to stay out of the way. | Jun 03 01:30 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The most vicious and psychopathic people tend to rise to the top and brutalize their critics and then they tend to react, as a group, by shutting up and just trying to stay out of the way. | Jun 03 01:30 |
immibis | You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera | Jun 03 01:30 |
immibis/fn | You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera | Jun 03 01:30 |
immibis | Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? | Jun 03 01:30 |
immibis/fn | Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? | Jun 03 01:30 |
BaronVladimirHar | If we allege that "society" governs over me in my name, then we must assume I agreed to let an Illinois child murderer/rapist out for good behavior, to live in Chicago, after 26 years, due to "good behavior", and at the same time, I filed criminal charges against myself for creating a minor nuisance. | Jun 03 01:32 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | If we allege that "society" governs over me in my name, then we must assume I agreed to let an Illinois child murderer/rapist out for good behavior, to live in Chicago, after 26 years, due to "good behavior", and at the same time, I filed criminal charges against myself for creating a minor nuisance. | Jun 03 01:32 |
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BaronVladimirHar | Of course, this exposes the ridiculousness of the idea of "society". It's another lie they cram down your throat to make you think you have anything to do with this, with these people. These idiots. MinceR ^ | Jun 03 01:33 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Of course, this exposes the ridiculousness of the idea of "society". It's another lie they cram down your throat to make you think you have anything to do with this, with these people. These idiots. MinceR ^ | Jun 03 01:33 |
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BaronVladimirHar | Logically, if they don't have the resources to keep Class A Felons in prison for the rest of their life, they don't have the resources to stop and deal with a Class C Misdemeanor. | Jun 03 01:34 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Logically, if they don't have the resources to keep Class A Felons in prison for the rest of their life, they don't have the resources to stop and deal with a Class C Misdemeanor. | Jun 03 01:34 |
BaronVladimirHar | But the state is as random as it is stupid, and this would be your "hive mind", only it's criminal gangsters that float to the top and claim it's "the public" running things. | Jun 03 01:34 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | But the state is as random as it is stupid, and this would be your "hive mind", only it's criminal gangsters that float to the top and claim it's "the public" running things. | Jun 03 01:34 |
BaronVladimirHar | Some would argue it's not really random at all. If the state can do whatever it wants, then you might be afraid of what it could do to you, even though it almost certainly won't catch and punish everything you do. | Jun 03 01:36 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Some would argue it's not really random at all. If the state can do whatever it wants, then you might be afraid of what it could do to you, even though it almost certainly won't catch and punish everything you do. | Jun 03 01:36 |
immibis | You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera | Jun 03 01:36 |
immibis/fn | You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera | Jun 03 01:36 |
immibis | Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? | Jun 03 01:36 |
immibis/fn | Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? | Jun 03 01:36 |
BaronVladimirHar | Libera Chat is a hive mind full of people who didn't feel comfortable in a community where they could be criticized. | Jun 03 01:36 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Libera Chat is a hive mind full of people who didn't feel comfortable in a community where they could be criticized. | Jun 03 01:36 |
BaronVladimirHar | So they made an "alternative" where they'll throw freethinkers out and set up a pillow fort. | Jun 03 01:37 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | So they made an "alternative" where they'll throw freethinkers out and set up a pillow fort. | Jun 03 01:37 |
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immibis | idk how you can claim libera is full of people who can't handle criticism, and also that libera is more censorious (i.e. gives more criticism) than freenode | Jun 03 01:37 |
immibis/fn | idk how you can claim libera is full of people who can't handle criticism, and also that libera is more censorious (i.e. gives more criticism) than freenode | Jun 03 01:37 |
mjg59/lc | Interesting that I was banned from this channel on the grounds of being critical of its contents | Jun 03 01:37 |
tr-bridge | [mjg59/lc] Interesting that I was banned from this channel on the grounds of being critical of its contents | Jun 03 01:37 |
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MinceR | mjg59 is lying again, as usual | Jun 03 01:38 |
MinceR/fn | mjg59 is lying again, as usual | Jun 03 01:38 |
BaronVladimirHar | The people running the network are figuring out what nasty tricks they can pull. | Jun 03 01:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The people running the network are figuring out what nasty tricks they can pull. | Jun 03 01:38 |
MinceR | he was muted, not banned, and on the grounds of being here only to troll the channel, admittedly | Jun 03 01:38 |
MinceR/fn | he was muted, not banned, and on the grounds of being here only to troll the channel, admittedly | Jun 03 01:38 |
BaronVladimirHar | And there's mjg59_ pulling a ban evasion using a nasty trick instead of shutting the hell up. | Jun 03 01:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | And there's mjg59_ pulling a ban evasion using a nasty trick instead of shutting the hell up. | Jun 03 01:38 |
immibis | mjg59: not only that, the baron here was talking about how the world would be better if people would use their guns on you | Jun 03 01:38 |
immibis/fn | mjg59: not only that, the baron here was talking about how the world would be better if people would use their guns on you | Jun 03 01:38 |
MinceR | XRevan86: please unbridge libera.chat if there's nobody there who can moderate it properly | Jun 03 01:38 |
MinceR/fn | XRevan86: please unbridge libera.chat if there's nobody there who can moderate it properly | Jun 03 01:38 |
CrystalMath | seconded | Jun 03 01:39 |
CrystalMath/fn | seconded | Jun 03 01:39 |
tr-bridge | [mjg59/lc] One individual's criticism is another's trolling | Jun 03 01:39 |
mjg59/lc | One individual's criticism is another's trolling | Jun 03 01:39 |
BaronVladimirHar | If there's some way to turn off the bridge, I'd suggest doing that. | Jun 03 01:39 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | If there's some way to turn off the bridge, I'd suggest doing that. | Jun 03 01:39 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: Apparently, superkuh cut off the only means to do so. | Jun 03 01:39 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Apparently, superkuh cut off the only means to do so. | Jun 03 01:39 |
immibis | so why was this guy actually banned, if it wasn't for criticizing the channel's contents? | Jun 03 01:39 |
immibis/fn | so why was this guy actually banned, if it wasn't for criticizing the channel's contents? | Jun 03 01:39 |
MinceR | immibis: people can (and often do) criticize other people in ways they do not tolerate being criticized | Jun 03 01:39 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: people can (and often do) criticize other people in ways they do not tolerate being criticized | Jun 03 01:39 |
MinceR | Xrevan86: please remove that leg of the bridge then | Jun 03 01:39 |
MinceR/fn | Xrevan86: please remove that leg of the bridge then | Jun 03 01:39 |
BaronVladimirHar | <immibis "so why was this guy actually ban"> Derailing the topics, accusing anyone who didn't agree with him of being a pedophile, etc. etc. | Jun 03 01:40 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | <immibis "so why was this guy actually ban"> Derailing the topics, accusing anyone who didn't agree with him of being a pedophile, etc. etc. | Jun 03 01:40 |
mjg59/lc | Literally didn't do that | Jun 03 01:40 |
tr-bridge | [mjg59/lc] Literally didn't do that | Jun 03 01:40 |
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BaronVladimirHar | You called me one because I opposed your Cancel RMS ShitHub project, which peaked a long time ago. | Jun 03 01:40 |
immibis | so basically he was banned for exercising his free speech? | Jun 03 01:40 |
CrystalMath | yeah because we have to listen to how techrights is bad all day | Jun 03 01:41 |
CrystalMath | what's next? if you don't want viagra ads every 3 seconds, you're anti-free-speech | Jun 03 01:41 |
BaronVladimirHar | Running around calling people pedophiles isn't really acceptable unless you can prove it. | Jun 03 01:41 |
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CrystalMath | is this thing normalized now? | Jun 03 01:42 |
superkuh | It cut it off? What? | Jun 03 01:42 |
CrystalMath/fn | is this thing normalized now? | Jun 03 01:42 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] It cut it off? What? | Jun 03 01:42 |
BaronVladimirHar | He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. | Jun 03 01:42 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. | Jun 03 01:42 |
superkuh | Let's be clear here. I did nothing but join and empty channel, get made op, and refuse to register it because it'd be rude. | Jun 03 01:42 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] Let's be clear here. I did nothing but join and empty channel, get made op, and refuse to register it because it'd be rude. | Jun 03 01:42 |
XRevan86 | Love it when I need to fix a mistake in the configuration and trying to get a cat off the keyboard at the same time. | Jun 03 01:42 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Love it when I need to fix a mistake in the configuration and trying to get a cat off the keyboard at the same time. | Jun 03 01:42 |
immibis | i thought this channel was in favour of free speech | Jun 03 01:42 |
immibis/fn | i thought this channel was in favour of free speech | Jun 03 01:42 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 01:42 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 01:42 |
XRevan86 | Makes me sweaty in no time. | Jun 03 01:42 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Makes me sweaty in no time. | Jun 03 01:42 |
MinceR | i'm guessing "free speech" means an impenetrable flood of spam if someone who runs enough bots decides it is | Jun 03 01:43 |
MinceR/fn | i'm guessing "free speech" means an impenetrable flood of spam if someone who runs enough bots decides it is | Jun 03 01:43 |
immibis | free speech means being allowed to state your opinion | Jun 03 01:43 |
immibis/fn | free speech means being allowed to state your opinion | Jun 03 01:43 |
CrystalMath | immibis: and he did | Jun 03 01:43 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: and he did | Jun 03 01:43 |
CrystalMath | we all know it | Jun 03 01:43 |
CrystalMath/fn | we all know it | Jun 03 01:43 |
MinceR | being allowed to state your opinion is not incompatible with moderating a channel | Jun 03 01:44 |
MinceR/fn | being allowed to state your opinion is not incompatible with moderating a channel | Jun 03 01:44 |
CrystalMath | heck i even agreed with some parts | Jun 03 01:44 |
CrystalMath/fn | heck i even agreed with some parts | Jun 03 01:44 |
XRevan86 | Anyway, that's just sad. When superkuh said he ruined the channel, it was a matter of time. | Jun 03 01:44 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Anyway, that's just sad. When superkuh said he ruined the channel, it was a matter of time. | Jun 03 01:44 |
immibis | it's incompatible with banning people for stating their opinion | Jun 03 01:44 |
immibis/fn | it's incompatible with banning people for stating their opinion | Jun 03 01:44 |
CrystalMath/fn | you don't need neoliberia, you have irc.techrights.org :) | Jun 03 01:44 |
CrystalMath | you don't need neoliberia, you have irc.techrights.org :) | Jun 03 01:44 |
MinceR | the lc channel could in theory be fixed, though | Jun 03 01:44 |
MinceR/fn | the lc channel could in theory be fixed, though | Jun 03 01:44 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: With staff intervention? | Jun 03 01:44 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: With staff intervention? | Jun 03 01:44 |
MinceR | most likely | Jun 03 01:45 |
MinceR/fn | most likely | Jun 03 01:45 |
XRevan86 | I'm sure schestowitz will love to write to the staff. | Jun 03 01:45 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I'm sure schestowitz will love to write to the staff. | Jun 03 01:45 |
mjg59_ | 01:42 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. | Jun 03 01:45 |
MinceR | it's also possible if everyone leaves it, but that's unlikely | Jun 03 01:45 |
MinceR/fn | it's also possible if everyone leaves it, but that's unlikely | Jun 03 01:45 |
tr-bridge | [mjg59_/tr] 01:42 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. | Jun 03 01:45 |
mjg59_ | Literally did not do that | Jun 03 01:45 |
tr-bridge | [mjg59_/tr] Literally did not do that | Jun 03 01:45 |
immibis | yes please call big daddy government to get rid of the people who have opinions i don't like | Jun 03 01:45 |
immibis/fn | yes please call big daddy government to get rid of the people who have opinions i don't like | Jun 03 01:45 |
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MinceR | libera.chat staff is now "big government"? | Jun 03 01:48 |
MinceR/fn | libera.chat staff is now "big government"? | Jun 03 01:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | If it's going to be bot harassment and Matthew fucking Garrett, it would be better to cut the link. | Jun 03 01:48 |
BaronVladimirHar | If it's going to be bot harassment and Matthew fucking Garrett, it would be better to cut the link. | Jun 03 01:48 |
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BaronVladimirHar | It's not like anyone should have a hard time opening Freenode in a tab. | Jun 03 01:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | It's not like anyone should have a hard time opening Freenode in a tab. | Jun 03 01:48 |
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MinceR | or someone could just register a new channel under a new name | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR/fn | or someone could just register a new channel under a new name | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR | i don't really care | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR/fn | i don't really care | Jun 03 01:49 |
immibis | the guy sent like 5 messages and for this we are trying to cancel him | Jun 03 01:49 |
immibis/fn | the guy sent like 5 messages and for this we are trying to cancel him | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR/fn | we already have a backup network | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR | we already have a backup network | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR | which "guy"? | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR/fn | which "guy"? | Jun 03 01:49 |
BaronVladimirHar | What it looks like to me is that the bridge makes it hard to ignore someone because it puts everyone over there under tr-bridge and you'll need to ignore EVERYONE. | Jun 03 01:49 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | What it looks like to me is that the bridge makes it hard to ignore someone because it puts everyone over there under tr-bridge and you'll need to ignore EVERYONE. | Jun 03 01:49 |
MinceR/fn | relaymsg might help with that, if you're on the other network which supports it and your client doesn't mind having a / in the nick of the ignore mask | Jun 03 01:50 |
MinceR | relaymsg might help with that, if you're on the other network which supports it and your client doesn't mind having a / in the nick of the ignore mask | Jun 03 01:50 |
immibis | MinceR: mjg59_ obviously | Jun 03 01:51 |
immibis/fn | MinceR: mjg59_ obviously | Jun 03 01:51 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 01:51 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 01:51 |
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MinceR | that guy sent so many messages i stopped trying to find the most incriminating ones | Jun 03 01:51 |
MinceR/fn | that guy sent so many messages i stopped trying to find the most incriminating ones | Jun 03 01:51 |
MinceR | also, we're not trying to cancel him | Jun 03 01:51 |
MinceR/fn | also, we're not trying to cancel him | Jun 03 01:51 |
MinceR | we're trying to keep him from interfering with discussion here | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR/fn | we're trying to keep him from interfering with discussion here | Jun 03 01:52 |
BaronVladimirHar | He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. | Jun 03 01:52 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. | Jun 03 01:52 |
immibis | i see how cancel culture is in this channel. You accuse him of something, he defends himself, you get him fired from this channel | Jun 03 01:52 |
immibis/fn | i see how cancel culture is in this channel. You accuse him of something, he defends himself, you get him fired from this channel | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR | we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR/fn | we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR | immibis: you haven't seen the issue, except for a tiny fraction | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: you haven't seen the issue, except for a tiny fraction | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR | the channel logs are public though, so you can look it up if you cared | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR/fn | the channel logs are public though, so you can look it up if you cared | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR | we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to -- his employers want him to do this | Jun 03 01:52 |
MinceR/fn | we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to -- his employers want him to do this | Jun 03 01:52 |
immibis | i've seen an attempt at cancelling. Because his "employer" wouldn't cooperate with the cancel, you cancelled his whole "employer" | Jun 03 01:53 |
immibis/fn | i've seen an attempt at cancelling. Because his "employer" wouldn't cooperate with the cancel, you cancelled his whole "employer" | Jun 03 01:53 |
MinceR | that's an interesting idea | Jun 03 01:53 |
MinceR/fn | that's an interesting idea | Jun 03 01:53 |
immibis | the "employer" being the network in this case | Jun 03 01:53 |
immibis/fn | the "employer" being the network in this case | Jun 03 01:53 |
MinceR | so you're saying that we fired the first shot, and then microsoft and ibm used their time machine, went back in time, and committed their crimes to retaliate? | Jun 03 01:53 |
MinceR/fn | so you're saying that we fired the first shot, and then microsoft and ibm used their time machine, went back in time, and committed their crimes to retaliate? | Jun 03 01:53 |
MinceR | is that why microsoft is attempting to lock us out of our own property? | Jun 03 01:54 |
MinceR/fn | is that why microsoft is attempting to lock us out of our own property? | Jun 03 01:54 |
MinceR | is that why ibm is attempting to kill off free unixes? | Jun 03 01:54 |
MinceR/fn | is that why ibm is attempting to kill off free unixes? | Jun 03 01:54 |
immibis | windows isn't your property | Jun 03 01:54 |
immibis/fn | windows isn't your property | Jun 03 01:54 |
MinceR/fn | my PC-s are my property | Jun 03 01:54 |
MinceR | my PC-s are my property | Jun 03 01:54 |
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mjg59_ | 01:52 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. | Jun 03 01:55 |
mjg59_/fn | 01:52 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis | and windows isn't | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis/fn | and windows isn't | Jun 03 01:55 |
mjg59_ | This is literally a lie | Jun 03 01:55 |
mjg59_/fn | This is literally a lie | Jun 03 01:55 |
mjg59_ | Ask him for the logs | Jun 03 01:55 |
mjg59_/fn | Ask him for the logs | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis | mjg59_: watch out, you're getting cancelled! | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis/fn | mjg59_: watch out, you're getting cancelled! | Jun 03 01:55 |
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MinceR | mjg59_: the next time you evade a mute, you're going to be banned | Jun 03 01:55 |
MinceR/fn | mjg59_: the next time you evade a mute, you're going to be banned | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis | see. cancelled | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis/fn | see. cancelled | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis | I thought we were against cancel culture | Jun 03 01:55 |
immibis/fn | I thought we were against cancel culture | Jun 03 01:55 |
MinceR | immibis: look up what it means, we'll wait. | Jun 03 01:55 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: look up what it means, we'll wait. | Jun 03 01:55 |
BaronVladimirHar | Matrix gets rid of the logs when you exit a "room" and ignore someone. | Jun 03 01:56 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Matrix gets rid of the logs when you exit a "room" and ignore someone. | Jun 03 01:56 |
MinceR | immibis: who are "you", microsoft? | Jun 03 01:56 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: who are "you", microsoft? | Jun 03 01:56 |
immibis | "Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person" | Jun 03 01:56 |
immibis/fn | "Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person" | Jun 03 01:56 |
MinceR | we can't thrust mjg out of social or professional circles | Jun 03 01:56 |
MinceR/fn | we can't thrust mjg out of social or professional circles | Jun 03 01:56 |
immibis | this is a social circle | Jun 03 01:57 |
immibis/fn | this is a social circle | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR | his social or professional circles are owned by microsoft and ibm | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR/fn | his social or professional circles are owned by microsoft and ibm | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR | this is not his social circle, never was | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR/fn | this is not his social circle, never was | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR | he made a name for himself trying (and to some extent succeeding) to manipulate Linux to work in line with microsoft's wishes | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR/fn | he made a name for himself trying (and to some extent succeeding) to manipulate Linux to work in line with microsoft's wishes | Jun 03 01:57 |
MinceR | and then attempting to cancel RMS and the board of the FSF | Jun 03 01:58 |
MinceR/fn | and then attempting to cancel RMS and the board of the FSF | Jun 03 01:58 |
immibis | it doesn't say "their" social or professional circle | Jun 03 01:58 |
immibis/fn | it doesn't say "their" social or professional circle | Jun 03 01:58 |
MinceR/fn | if you miss his bullshit so much, go talk to him on twitter | Jun 03 01:58 |
MinceR | if you miss his bullshit so much, go talk to him on twitter | Jun 03 01:58 |
MinceR | or start a channel for him | Jun 03 01:58 |
MinceR/fn | or start a channel for him | Jun 03 01:58 |
immibis | that's what they told the cancelled people on twitter. "just start your own social media with your own payment network" | Jun 03 01:59 |
immibis/fn | that's what they told the cancelled people on twitter. "just start your own social media with your own payment network" | Jun 03 01:59 |
MinceR | that might be what they told people on twitter, but that's not what i said | Jun 03 01:59 |
MinceR/fn | that might be what they told people on twitter, but that's not what i said | Jun 03 01:59 |
immibis | it is, you said "just start your own irc channel" | Jun 03 02:00 |
immibis/fn | it is, you said "just start your own irc channel" | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR | starting your own irc channel is literally one command | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR/fn | starting your own irc channel is literally one command | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR | and it works on this network | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR/fn | and it works on this network | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR | there's no obligation for you to do your worship of mjg here, or for us to listen to it | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR/fn | there's no obligation for you to do your worship of mjg here, or for us to listen to it | Jun 03 02:00 |
MinceR | there is no "right to have an audience" | Jun 03 02:01 |
MinceR/fn | there is no "right to have an audience" | Jun 03 02:01 |
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immibis | i'm just saying, it's cancel culture, is all. I thought we opposed that | Jun 03 02:02 |
immibis/fn | i'm just saying, it's cancel culture, is all. I thought we opposed that | Jun 03 02:02 |
MinceR | no, it is not | Jun 03 02:02 |
MinceR/fn | no, it is not | Jun 03 02:02 |
immibis | why do we oppose cancel culture if there's no right to not be cancelled? | Jun 03 02:02 |
immibis/fn | why do we oppose cancel culture if there's no right to not be cancelled? | Jun 03 02:02 |
samiamsam | there is good and bad cancel culture | Jun 03 02:15 |
samiamsam/fn | there is good and bad cancel culture | Jun 03 02:15 |
samiamsam | cancelling fascists is good | Jun 03 02:16 |
samiamsam/fn | cancelling fascists is good | Jun 03 02:16 |
XRevan86 | https://api.theins.ru/images/LWOZ3Z5RcmanpbG75z5YVXsY1o8wmyLZeSgtpWHO0SM/rs:auto:877:579:0:0/dpr:2/q:90/bG9jYWw6L3B1Ymxp/Yy9zdG9yYWdlL3Bv/c3QvMjM5NDM3L2Zp/bGUtYjZkZmJlZjE1/OWQ4MTYwZmY3ZTQ2/ODU3NDE3MmU0NGUu/cG5n.jpg | Jun 03 02:18 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] https://api.theins.ru/images/LWOZ3Z5RcmanpbG75z5YVXsY1o8wmyLZeSgtpWHO0SM/rs:auto:877:579:0:0/dpr:2/q:90/bG9jYWw6L3B1Ymxp/Yy9zdG9yYWdlL3Bv/c3QvMjM5NDM3L2Zp/bGUtYjZkZmJlZjE1/OWQ4MTYwZmY3ZTQ2/ODU3NDE3MmU0NGUu/cG5n.jpg | Jun 03 02:18 |
samiamsam | internet mobs gathered by some viral embarrassment (maybe fabricated or a distortion) are bad | Jun 03 02:18 |
samiamsam/fn | internet mobs gathered by some viral embarrassment (maybe fabricated or a distortion) are bad | Jun 03 02:18 |
XRevan86 | samiamsam: Since this is such a broad brush, what to do with this ethnic Jew who is a Benito Mussolini fan? :) | Jun 03 02:18 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] samiamsam: Since this is such a broad brush, what to do with this ethnic Jew who is a Benito Mussolini fan? :) | Jun 03 02:18 |
MinceR | did someone say jews could not be fascists? | Jun 03 02:19 |
MinceR/fn | did someone say jews could not be fascists? | Jun 03 02:19 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: I should've waited for such argument to be made? | Jun 03 02:20 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I should've waited for such argument to be made? | Jun 03 02:20 |
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XRevan86 | by the way, this guy is immune on YouTube | Jun 03 02:21 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] by the way, this guy is immune on YouTube | Jun 03 02:21 |
XRevan86 | some people just have a platform no matter what | Jun 03 02:21 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] some people just have a platform no matter what | Jun 03 02:21 |
XRevan86 | and an occasional Bionicle meme doesn't justify that | Jun 03 02:22 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and an occasional Bionicle meme doesn't justify that | Jun 03 02:22 |
samiamsam | XRevan86: i don't know who that is | Jun 03 02:22 |
samiamsam/fn | XRevan86: i don't know who that is | Jun 03 02:22 |
schestowitz | had to restart the gemini and ipfs machines | Jun 03 02:22 |
schestowitz/fn | had to restart the gemini and ipfs machines | Jun 03 02:22 |
schestowitz | some home network issues tonight | Jun 03 02:22 |
schestowitz/fn | some home network issues tonight | Jun 03 02:22 |
XRevan86 | samiamsam: I outlined the important aspect, but if ye must know, this is Vladimir Solovyev | Jun 03 02:23 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] samiamsam: I outlined the important aspect, but if ye must know, this is Vladimir Solovyev | Jun 03 02:23 |
samiamsam | Vladimir Rudolfovich Solovyov[a] (Russian: Владимир Рудольфович Соловьёв, born October 20, 1963) is a Russian high-profile propagandist,[1][2][3][4] television and radio host. | Jun 03 02:23 |
samiamsam/fn | Vladimir Rudolfovich Solovyov[a] (Russian: Владимир Рудольфович Соловьёв, born October 20, 1963) is a Russian high-profile propagandist,[1][2][3][4] television and radio host. | Jun 03 02:23 |
XRevan86 | The richest TV persona in Russia | Jun 03 02:23 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] The richest TV persona in Russia | Jun 03 02:23 |
XRevan86 | an Italian resident | Jun 03 02:24 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] an Italian resident | Jun 03 02:24 |
XRevan86 | and a complete loon | Jun 03 02:24 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and a complete loon | Jun 03 02:24 |
XRevan86 | (totally in a good sense, this is not defamation) | Jun 03 02:24 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] (totally in a good sense, this is not defamation) | Jun 03 02:24 |
samiamsam | i have the greatest possible contempt for people like that | Jun 03 02:24 |
samiamsam/fn | i have the greatest possible contempt for people like that | Jun 03 02:24 |
samiamsam | What is TR? | Jun 03 02:26 |
samiamsam/fn | What is TR? | Jun 03 02:26 |
XRevan86 | Tech Rights, get it? | Jun 03 02:26 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Tech Rights, get it? | Jun 03 02:26 |
samiamsam | Oh. OK. What's it bridging to? | Jun 03 02:27 |
samiamsam/fn | Oh. OK. What's it bridging to? | Jun 03 02:27 |
XRevan86 | irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 02:27 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 02:27 |
samiamsam | ah. nice. | Jun 03 02:27 |
samiamsam/fn | ah. nice. | Jun 03 02:27 |
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XRevan86 | techrights at techrights, the techrightiest place there is | Jun 03 02:27 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] techrights at techrights, the techrightiest place there is | Jun 03 02:27 |
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QazYLIoym | Greatt job, AndLrew Leey. | Jun 03 02:28 |
QazYLIoym/fn | Greatt job, AndLrew Leey. | Jun 03 02:28 |
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samiamsam | System In Place (MS-1790) | Jun 03 02:35 |
tr-bridge | [samiamsam/tr] System In Place (MS-1790) | Jun 03 02:35 |
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samiamsam | holy shit | Jun 03 02:37 |
tr-bridge | [samiamsam/tr] holy shit | Jun 03 02:37 |
samiamsam | you can get /64s | Jun 03 02:37 |
tr-bridge | [samiamsam/tr] you can get /64s | Jun 03 02:37 |
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schestowitz | oddly, one laptop cannot connect to the network | Jun 03 02:38 |
schestowitz/fn | oddly, one laptop cannot connect to the network | Jun 03 02:38 |
schestowitz | another 2 lost the connection | Jun 03 02:38 |
schestowitz/fn | another 2 lost the connection | Jun 03 02:38 |
schestowitz | 2 did not lose it at all | Jun 03 02:38 |
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schestowitz | but all could reconnect OK | Jun 03 02:38 |
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samiamsam | looks like cheapest $10 for a /64 | Jun 03 02:38 |
tr-bridge | [samiamsam/tr] looks like cheapest $10 for a /64 | Jun 03 02:38 |
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schestowitz | yes, very descriptive! | Jun 03 02:39 |
schestowitz/fn | yes, very descriptive! | Jun 03 02:39 |
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stormchaser3000/fn | everyone on here probably knows already, but did anyone see that the GCC project no longer requires contributed code to be signed over to the FSF? | Jun 03 05:22 |
stormchaser3000 | everyone on here probably knows already, but did anyone see that the GCC project no longer requires contributed code to be signed over to the FSF? | Jun 03 05:22 |
MinceR | indeed | Jun 03 05:23 |
MinceR/fn | indeed | Jun 03 05:23 |
stormchaser3000 | figured as much | Jun 03 05:23 |
stormchaser3000/fn | figured as much | Jun 03 05:23 |
stormchaser3000 | just thought I would mention it :) | Jun 03 05:23 |
stormchaser3000/fn | just thought I would mention it :) | Jun 03 05:23 |
stormchaser3000 | ugh... this division is destroying everything it touches | Jun 03 05:25 |
stormchaser3000/fn | ugh... this division is destroying everything it touches | Jun 03 05:25 |
stormchaser3000 | if developers could pull their code out of gcc because they didn't assign their copyright to the FSF, that woudl be a disaster | Jun 03 05:26 |
stormchaser3000/fn | if developers could pull their code out of gcc because they didn't assign their copyright to the FSF, that woudl be a disaster | Jun 03 05:26 |
stormchaser3000/fn | similar to that Linux kernel situation from a few years ago | Jun 03 05:26 |
stormchaser3000 | similar to that Linux kernel situation from a few years ago | Jun 03 05:26 |
MinceR | can they really do that? | Jun 03 05:26 |
MinceR/fn | can they really do that? | Jun 03 05:26 |
stormchaser3000 | I don't see why not if they own the copyright | Jun 03 05:26 |
stormchaser3000/fn | I don't see why not if they own the copyright | Jun 03 05:26 |
MinceR | because others already have a license from them | Jun 03 05:27 |
MinceR/fn | because others already have a license from them | Jun 03 05:27 |
stormchaser3000 | they may not be able to prevent others from sharing the code, but I think they could pull it out of the main project... I don't know... I would have to ask a lawyer | Jun 03 05:27 |
stormchaser3000/fn | they may not be able to prevent others from sharing the code, but I think they could pull it out of the main project... I don't know... I would have to ask a lawyer | Jun 03 05:27 |
MinceR | the GPLv3 even says the rights granted under it are irrevocable, though i don't know how that holds up against various legal systems | Jun 03 05:28 |
MinceR/fn | the GPLv3 even says the rights granted under it are irrevocable, though i don't know how that holds up against various legal systems | Jun 03 05:28 |
stormchaser3000 | I don't know either | Jun 03 05:28 |
stormchaser3000/fn | I don't know either | Jun 03 05:28 |
MinceR/fn | in any case, most free software projects don't have a CLA and afaik some (like upstart and canonical's unity) were killed by having a CLA | Jun 03 05:29 |
MinceR | in any case, most free software projects don't have a CLA and afaik some (like upstart and canonical's unity) were killed by having a CLA | Jun 03 05:29 |
MinceR | (and thus making developers not want to contribute) | Jun 03 05:29 |
MinceR/fn | (and thus making developers not want to contribute) | Jun 03 05:29 |
stormchaser3000 | fair point | Jun 03 05:29 |
stormchaser3000/fn | fair point | Jun 03 05:29 |
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techrights-ipfs/fn | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▅▃▄▄▅▆▄▅▅▂▃▄▂▅▄▅▄▅▅▃▁▆▁▂▃▆▆▂▅▆▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.51 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂█▁▁▂▂▂▃▃▂▁▁▂█▁▃▂█▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 42.53▕ swarm size (avg): 237.12 ⟲ | Jun 03 06:18 |
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schestowitz | wow, this is really awful; one of my machines cannot connect to the network anymore... and doesn't specify a proper reason | Jun 03 06:54 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] wow, this is really awful; one of my machines cannot connect to the network anymore... and doesn't specify a proper reason | Jun 03 06:54 |
schestowitz | a couple more machines had this issue, but they reconnected later... this one too reconnected for 20 more minutes, then lost the connection again | Jun 03 06:54 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] a couple more machines had this issue, but they reconnected later... this one too reconnected for 20 more minutes, then lost the connection again | Jun 03 06:54 |
schestowitz | not sure what to try at this stage | Jun 03 06:55 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] not sure what to try at this stage | Jun 03 06:55 |
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techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▆▁▄▃▆▄▆▇▂▂▃▂▅▆▆▅▅▄▅▃▃▅▅▅▂▁▄▅▂▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁█▂▁▂▁▂▂█▁▁▃▁▂▂▂▂▃▁█▃▁▂▁▁█▁▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 29.41▕ swarm size (avg): 237.15 ⟲ | Jun 03 07:17 |
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techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▇▅▃▄▄▅▆▅▃▄▄▅▂▃▅▅▅▅▃▅▅▁▅▁▃▃▄▅▃▄▂▃▄▅▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.53 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▃█▂█▁▂▁▁▂▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 54.75▕ swarm size (avg): 237.19 ⟲ | Jun 03 08:31 |
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techrights-bot | "Instead of talking so much cr-p imagine just getting fired. At least IBM secured a contract to keep some of their employees employed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies | Jun 03 08:55 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Instead of talking so much cr-p imagine just getting fired. At least IBM secured a contract to keep some of their employees employed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies | Jun 03 08:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 08:55 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 08:56 |
techrights-bot | "Why can't young people of color learn rudimentary skills to perform their jobs? Is the old white guy preventing them from learning the basics? You are racist bruh" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b8hM7EK#replies | Jun 03 08:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Why would IBM need to layoff massively? Droves of people are leaving on their own! - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 08:56 | |
techrights-bot/fn | "Why can't young people of color learn rudimentary skills to perform their jobs? Is the old white guy preventing them from learning the basics? You are racist bruh" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b8hM7EK#replies | Jun 03 08:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Why would IBM need to layoff massively? Droves of people are leaving on their own! - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 08:56 |
techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 03 08:56 |
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techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 03 08:57 |
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techrights-bot | #PopOS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76’s Linux distritbution • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 08:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76’s Linux distritbution | Tux Machines | Jun 03 08:57 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #PopOS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76’s Linux distritbution • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 08:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76’s Linux distritbution | Tux Machines | Jun 03 08:57 |
techrights-bot | Lots of work on barrier and synergy today, connecting 6 laptops over the network to improve efficiency and workspace at home. Old laptops, but each has its own computation unit. Better than one overpriced laptop and a lot cheaper too. | Jun 03 09:02 |
techrights-bot/fn | Lots of work on barrier and synergy today, connecting 6 laptops over the network to improve efficiency and workspace at home. Old laptops, but each has its own computation unit. Better than one overpriced laptop and a lot cheaper too. | Jun 03 09:02 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #uniToronto ☞ Simple use of Let's Encrypt on #OpenBSD is pleasantly straightforward (as of 6.8 https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt | Jun 03 09:03 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #uniToronto ☞ Simple use of Let's Encrypt on #OpenBSD is pleasantly straightforward (as of 6.8 https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt | Jun 03 09:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt | Jun 03 09:03 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt | Jun 03 09:03 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #GiovanniCollazo ☞ Logging is important https://gcollazo.com/logging-is-important/ | Jun 03 09:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcollazo.com | Logging is important – Giovanni Collazo | Jun 03 09:03 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #GiovanniCollazo ☞ Logging is important https://gcollazo.com/logging-is-important/ | Jun 03 09:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | gcollazo.com | Logging is important – Giovanni Collazo | Jun 03 09:04 |
immibis | <samiamsam> cancelling fascists is good <-- everyone thinks the people they're cancelling are bad people | Jun 03 09:04 |
immibis/fn | <samiamsam> cancelling fascists is good <-- everyone thinks the people they're cancelling are bad people | Jun 03 09:04 |
techrights-bot | #mozilla #firefox deleted from one more laptop and replaced with #netsurf (good enough to access the site I need and care for). #gnu #linux #xfce4 | Jun 03 09:04 |
techrights-bot/fn | #mozilla #firefox deleted from one more laptop and replaced with #netsurf (good enough to access the site I need and care for). #gnu #linux #xfce4 | Jun 03 09:04 |
alextee[m] | the act of cancelling is fascist in itself lol | Jun 03 09:04 |
alextee[m]/fn | the act of cancelling is fascist in itself lol | Jun 03 09:04 |
immibis | alextee[m]: some guy got cancelled from this channel | Jun 03 09:05 |
immibis/fn | alextee[m]: some guy got cancelled from this channel | Jun 03 09:05 |
alextee[m] | iTs GoOd WhEn We Do It | Jun 03 09:05 |
alextee[m]/fn | iTs GoOd WhEn We Do It | Jun 03 09:05 |
immibis | for having the wrong opinions | Jun 03 09:05 |
immibis/fn | for having the wrong opinions | Jun 03 09:05 |
schestowitz | who? | Jun 03 09:05 |
schestowitz/fn | who? | Jun 03 09:05 |
immibis | mjg59_. And MinceR is justifying it by saying "this isn't a social circle". seems rather hypocritical | Jun 03 09:06 |
immibis/fn | mjg59_. And MinceR is justifying it by saying "this isn't a social circle". seems rather hypocritical | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz | no, not the reason | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz/fn | no, not the reason | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz | he's not canceled | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz/fn | he's not canceled | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz | he's a saboteur whose sole goal is to kill the site | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz/fn | he's a saboteur whose sole goal is to kill the site | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz | he's inject sex into the channel | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz/fn | he's inject sex into the channel | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz | and then shout, RAPE! | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz/fn | and then shout, RAPE! | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz | it's worse than a troll | Jun 03 09:06 |
schestowitz/fn | it's worse than a troll | Jun 03 09:06 |
immibis | is that not also free speech? | Jun 03 09:07 |
immibis/fn | is that not also free speech? | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz | no | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz/fn | no | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz | that's sabotage | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz/fn | that's sabotage | Jun 03 09:07 |
immibis | why is it not free speech? | Jun 03 09:07 |
immibis/fn | why is it not free speech? | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz | you need to look it up | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz/fn | you need to look it up | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz/fn | http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | Jun 03 09:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | Jun 03 09:07 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | Jun 03 09:07 |
schestowitz | if I come to a store and shout at the clerk "FUCK ME!" | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz/fn | if I come to a store and shout at the clerk "FUCK ME!" | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz | Is that free speech? | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz/fn | Is that free speech? | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz | Or am I breaking some key rules? | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz/fn | Or am I breaking some key rules? | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz | How about, "I'm gonna kill you!" | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz/fn | How about, "I'm gonna kill you!" | Jun 03 09:08 |
schestowitz | he was NOT cancelled for his "views" | Jun 03 09:09 |
schestowitz/fn | he was NOT cancelled for his "views" | Jun 03 09:09 |
schestowitz | not even canceled, just muted | Jun 03 09:09 |
schestowitz/fn | not even canceled, just muted | Jun 03 09:09 |
schestowitz | for attempting to do nothing but cause disruption and defame peoplee | Jun 03 09:09 |
schestowitz/fn | for attempting to do nothing but cause disruption and defame peoplee | Jun 03 09:09 |
schestowitz | also inciting people to try to get the site deplatformed | Jun 03 09:10 |
schestowitz/fn | also inciting people to try to get the site deplatformed | Jun 03 09:10 |
schestowitz | he's a real slime of a person | Jun 03 09:10 |
schestowitz/fn | he's a real slime of a person | Jun 03 09:10 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Rachel ☞ Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/06/01/count/ | Jun 03 09:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) | Jun 03 09:11 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Rachel ☞ Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/06/01/count/ | Jun 03 09:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | rachelbythebay.com | Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) | Jun 03 09:11 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #JeffGeerling #Hardware ☞ The #Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/apple-m1-compiles-linux-30-faster-my-intel-i9 | Jun 03 09:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | The Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 | Jeff Geerling | Jun 03 09:12 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #JeffGeerling #Hardware ☞ The #Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/apple-m1-compiles-linux-30-faster-my-intel-i9 | Jun 03 09:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.jeffgeerling.com | The Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 | Jeff Geerling | Jun 03 09:12 |
techrights-bot/fn | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ | Jun 03 09:14 |
techrights-bot | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ | Jun 03 09:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Techrights | Jun 03 09:14 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Techrights | Jun 03 09:14 |
techrights-bot | IRC logs for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Jun 03 09:15 |
techrights-bot/fn | IRC logs for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Jun 03 09:15 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: was the LC bridge removed or something? | Jun 03 09:16 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: was the LC bridge removed or something? | Jun 03 09:16 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #SiliconAngle #ProprietarySoftware ☞ New ‘Epsilon Red’ ransomware is targeting [sic] unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/31/new-epsilon-red-ransomware-targeting-unpatched-microsoft-exchange-servers/ | Jun 03 09:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New 'Epsilon Red' ransomware is targeting unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers - SiliconANGLE | Jun 03 09:19 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #SiliconAngle #ProprietarySoftware ☞ New ‘Epsilon Red’ ransomware is targeting [sic] unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/31/new-epsilon-red-ransomware-targeting-unpatched-microsoft-exchange-servers/ | Jun 03 09:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | New 'Epsilon Red' ransomware is targeting unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers - SiliconANGLE | Jun 03 09:19 |
techrights-bot | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS [crack] https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/556585-fbi-says-russia-linked-groups-behind-jbs-hack | Jun 03 09:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS hack | TheHill | Jun 03 09:20 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS [crack] https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/556585-fbi-says-russia-linked-groups-behind-jbs-hack | Jun 03 09:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS hack | TheHill | Jun 03 09:20 |
techrights-bot | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Russia-Linked Group Behind JBS Attack Revels in ‘Audaciousness’ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-02/russia-linked-group-behind-jbs-attack-revels-in-audaciousness | Jun 03 09:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 03 09:20 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Russia-Linked Group Behind JBS Attack Revels in ‘Audaciousness’ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-02/russia-linked-group-behind-jbs-attack-revels-in-audaciousness | Jun 03 09:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 03 09:20 |
techrights-bot | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/3/22466003/jbs-cyberattack-fbi-revil-sodinokibi-criminal-group | Jun 03 09:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack - The Verge | Jun 03 09:21 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/3/22466003/jbs-cyberattack-fbi-revil-sodinokibi-criminal-group | Jun 03 09:21 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.theverge.com | FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack - The Verge | Jun 03 09:21 |
techrights-bot | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheRecord #ProprietarySoftware ☞ FBI: #JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil https://therecord.media/fbi-jbs-ransomware-attack-was-carried-out-by-revil/ | Jun 03 09:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | FBI: JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil | The Record by Recorded Future | Jun 03 09:21 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheRecord #ProprietarySoftware ☞ FBI: #JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil https://therecord.media/fbi-jbs-ransomware-attack-was-carried-out-by-revil/ | Jun 03 09:21 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | therecord.media | FBI: JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil | The Record by Recorded Future | Jun 03 09:21 |
Techrights-sec | https://nitter.cc/mjg59/status/1400190697257332738#m | Jun 03 09:24 |
tr-bridge | [Techrights-sec/tr] https://nitter.cc/mjg59/status/1400190697257332738#m | Jun 03 09:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "(CW, sexual violence, linking to screenshot of text so people have to click through) Techrights IRC is having a normal one, by which I mean this is absolutely not an unusual level of discourse there: http://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/techrights_2021_06_02.png" | nitter | Jun 03 09:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | nitter.cc | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "(CW, sexual violence, linking to screenshot of text so people have to click through) Techrights IRC is having a normal one, by which I mean this is absolutely not an unusual level of discourse there: http://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/techrights_2021_06_02.png" | nitter | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz | the troll doing his ritual defamation again | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz/fn | the troll doing his ritual defamation again | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz | he'll never stop | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz/fn | he'll never stop | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz | in this case using BaronVladimirHar | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz/fn | in this case using BaronVladimirHar | Jun 03 09:24 |
schestowitz | told you he'd use you to inflame people | Jun 03 09:25 |
schestowitz/fn | told you he'd use you to inflame people | Jun 03 09:25 |
schestowitz | anyway, he picks people who clearly don't speak for the site | Jun 03 09:25 |
schestowitz/fn | anyway, he picks people who clearly don't speak for the site | Jun 03 09:25 |
immibis | yes, shouting FUCK ME at a store is free speech | Jun 03 09:27 |
immibis/fn | yes, shouting FUCK ME at a store is free speech | Jun 03 09:27 |
schestowitz | so now he's basically down to: | Jun 03 09:27 |
schestowitz/fn | so now he's basically down to: | Jun 03 09:27 |
immibis | so is "I'm gonna kill you!" | Jun 03 09:27 |
immibis/fn | so is "I'm gonna kill you!" | Jun 03 09:27 |
schestowitz/fn | "look, I entered some IRC channel" | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz | "look, I entered some IRC channel" | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz | "someone said something really bad" | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz/fn | "someone said something really bad" | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz | immibis: but they defy other laws | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: but they defy other laws | Jun 03 09:28 |
immibis/fn | more like "someone accused me of being a child rapist" | Jun 03 09:28 |
immibis | more like "someone accused me of being a child rapist" | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz | like, I can report you to authorities for death threats | Jun 03 09:28 |
schestowitz/fn | like, I can report you to authorities for death threats | Jun 03 09:28 |
immibis | well then, I don't have free speech | Jun 03 09:29 |
immibis/fn | well then, I don't have free speech | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | anyway, the quality of smears against us took a tumble... quoting random people in IRC, which is open to everyone on multiple networks | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | anyway, the quality of smears against us took a tumble... quoting random people in IRC, which is open to everyone on multiple networks | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | bbiab | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | bbiab | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | it's a waste of time to even entertain this toll | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | it's a waste of time to even entertain this toll | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | troll | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | troll | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | they try to gross people out | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | they try to gross people out | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | and fabricate things | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | and fabricate things | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | 2 days ago: http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | 2 days ago: http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ | Jun 03 09:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights | Jun 03 09:29 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz | they just try to paint a false picture of the site, based on fabrications | Jun 03 09:29 |
schestowitz/fn | they just try to paint a false picture of the site, based on fabrications | Jun 03 09:29 |
immibis | ^ there's a link saying it's bad to call people homophobic, but you say it's perfectly fine to call people child rapists? | Jun 03 09:30 |
immibis/fn | ^ there's a link saying it's bad to call people homophobic, but you say it's perfectly fine to call people child rapists? | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz | not the point.. | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz/fn | not the point.. | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz | the point is | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz/fn | the point is | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz | he was provoking here | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz/fn | he was provoking here | Jun 03 09:30 |
schestowitz | bringing up sex | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz/fn | bringing up sex | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz | and lurking here for dirt | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz/fn | and lurking here for dirt | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz | to he can write malicious tweets out of context | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz/fn | to he can write malicious tweets out of context | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz | to make it look like techrights is just some site that talks things like that | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz/fn | to make it look like techrights is just some site that talks things like that | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz | when the troll himself, Garrett, was the one interjecting sex into the channel | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz/fn | when the troll himself, Garrett, was the one interjecting sex into the channel | Jun 03 09:31 |
schestowitz | I hope you at least understand why AFTER ALMOST A YEAR OF ALLOW HIM TO TALK (in the name of free speech) MinceR muted him | Jun 03 09:32 |
schestowitz/fn | I hope you at least understand why AFTER ALMOST A YEAR OF ALLOW HIM TO TALK (in the name of free speech) MinceR muted him | Jun 03 09:32 |
schestowitz | these are vandals | Jun 03 09:32 |
schestowitz/fn | these are vandals | Jun 03 09:32 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CoryDoctorow #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Google cheats on location privacy https://pluralistic.net/2021/06/01/you-are-here/#goog | Jun 03 09:32 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #CoryDoctorow #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Google cheats on location privacy https://pluralistic.net/2021/06/01/you-are-here/#goog | Jun 03 09:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 01 Jun 2021 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | Jun 03 09:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 01 Jun 2021 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | Jun 03 09:32 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #InternetSociety #isoc #internet #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2021/06/how-do-surveillance-laws-impact-the-economy/ | Jun 03 09:32 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #InternetSociety #isoc #internet #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2021/06/how-do-surveillance-laws-impact-the-economy/ | Jun 03 09:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internetsociety.org | How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? | Internet Society | Jun 03 09:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.internetsociety.org | How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? | Internet Society | Jun 03 09:32 |
techrights-bot | Hands-On with System76’s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 09:34 |
techrights-bot/fn | Hands-On with System76’s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 09:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with System76’s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 09:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with System76’s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 09:34 |
immibis | talking about sex is free speech | Jun 03 09:34 |
immibis/fn | talking about sex is free speech | Jun 03 09:34 |
schestowitz | he's throw bricks at us is he could | Jun 03 09:35 |
schestowitz/fn | he's throw bricks at us is he could | Jun 03 09:35 |
schestowitz | but instead he's trying all he can to destory the channel and the site | Jun 03 09:35 |
schestowitz/fn | but instead he's trying all he can to destory the channel and the site | Jun 03 09:35 |
schestowitz | with or without spewing provocation and abuse in these IRC fora | Jun 03 09:35 |
schestowitz/fn | with or without spewing provocation and abuse in these IRC fora | Jun 03 09:35 |
schestowitz | mind you | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | mind you | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | we're not alone | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | we're not alone | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | he also did this repeated to RMS and Linux Torvalds | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | he also did this repeated to RMS and Linux Torvalds | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | repeatedly | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | repeatedly | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | for many years | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | for many years | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | with varying degree of success | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | with varying degree of success | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | Torvalds was demoted or removed temporarily | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | Torvalds was demoted or removed temporarily | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | and we know where RMS stands these days | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz/fn | and we know where RMS stands these days | Jun 03 09:36 |
schestowitz | maybe he should revisit Ireland and do that in some pub in Belfast | Jun 03 09:37 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe he should revisit Ireland and do that in some pub in Belfast | Jun 03 09:37 |
schestowitz | we'll see how far that goes... | Jun 03 09:37 |
schestowitz/fn | we'll see how far that goes... | Jun 03 09:37 |
schestowitz | before he gets shot | Jun 03 09:37 |
schestowitz/fn | before he gets shot | Jun 03 09:37 |
immibis | talking about sex is not violence | Jun 03 09:38 |
immibis/fn | talking about sex is not violence | Jun 03 09:38 |
schestowitz | living in a complete fantasy world where you can be a complete a-hole and expect no response is the sort of fantasy world he and his ilk are losing | Jun 03 09:38 |
schestowitz/fn | living in a complete fantasy world where you can be a complete a-hole and expect no response is the sort of fantasy world he and his ilk are losing | Jun 03 09:38 |
schestowitz | because they drive people away from them | Jun 03 09:39 |
schestowitz/fn | because they drive people away from them | Jun 03 09:39 |
schestowitz | even people whom they want us to think are allies | Jun 03 09:39 |
schestowitz/fn | even people whom they want us to think are allies | Jun 03 09:39 |
schestowitz | even leftists get disgusted by them | Jun 03 09:39 |
schestowitz/fn | even leftists get disgusted by them | Jun 03 09:39 |
immibis | maybe you should join IRCv3 and create the BULLETMSG extension | Jun 03 09:39 |
immibis/fn | maybe you should join IRCv3 and create the BULLETMSG extension | Jun 03 09:39 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Finance ☞ #Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Can’t Sue YouTube Over Bitcoin Scam https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-03/apple-co-founder-wozniak-can-t-sue-youtube-over-bitcoin-scam | Jun 03 09:40 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Finance ☞ #Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Can’t Sue YouTube Over Bitcoin Scam https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-03/apple-co-founder-wozniak-can-t-sue-youtube-over-bitcoin-scam | Jun 03 09:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 03 09:40 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 03 09:40 |
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schestowitz | immibis: I try to focus on reading and writing | Jun 03 09:47 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: I try to focus on reading and writing | Jun 03 09:47 |
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schestowitz | we also do admin and code work | Jun 03 09:47 |
schestowitz/fn | we also do admin and code work | Jun 03 09:47 |
schestowitz | immibis: xrevan does much of the irc bridging | Jun 03 09:47 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: xrevan does much of the irc bridging | Jun 03 09:47 |
schestowitz | kaniini and MinceR help a lot with IRC stuff | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | kaniini and MinceR help a lot with IRC stuff | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | I did not write much this morning due to network issues | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | I did not write much this morning due to network issues | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | which we overcome slowly | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | which we overcome slowly | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | and i don't want to let the above-mentioned troll waste time either | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | and i don't want to let the above-mentioned troll waste time either | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | he has done worse | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | he has done worse | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | like trying to imply rape apologism | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | like trying to imply rape apologism | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | seems like a modus operandi | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz/fn | seems like a modus operandi | Jun 03 09:48 |
schestowitz | accuse your opponent of something phobic, even if that's totally false | Jun 03 09:49 |
schestowitz/fn | accuse your opponent of something phobic, even if that's totally false | Jun 03 09:49 |
schestowitz | this was done to RMS | Jun 03 09:49 |
schestowitz/fn | this was done to RMS | Jun 03 09:49 |
immibis | accusing of xphobia is bad, but accusing of child rape is okay? | Jun 03 09:54 |
immibis/fn | accusing of xphobia is bad, but accusing of child rape is okay? | Jun 03 09:54 |
schestowitz | who? BaronVladimirHar? | Jun 03 09:56 |
schestowitz/fn | who? BaronVladimirHar? | Jun 03 09:56 |
schestowitz | ask him, not me | Jun 03 09:56 |
schestowitz/fn | ask him, not me | Jun 03 09:56 |
schestowitz | btw, he accused him of no such think afaict | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz/fn | btw, he accused him of no such think afaict | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz | he accused him of turning a blind eye to people who rape kids | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz/fn | he accused him of turning a blind eye to people who rape kids | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz | based on abuse garrett had given him | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz/fn | based on abuse garrett had given him | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz | like sending him DM about CP | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz/fn | like sending him DM about CP | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz | you are new here, immibis | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz/fn | you are new here, immibis | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz | so maybe you could use some pointers to history of it all | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz/fn | so maybe you could use some pointers to history of it all | Jun 03 09:57 |
schestowitz | WE TOLERATED A LOT FROM THAT TROLL, since last year | Jun 03 09:58 |
schestowitz/fn | WE TOLERATED A LOT FROM THAT TROLL, since last year | Jun 03 09:58 |
schestowitz | without muting | Jun 03 09:58 |
schestowitz/fn | without muting | Jun 03 09:58 |
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schestowitz | hi, is0ke3 | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz/fn | hi, is0ke3 | Jun 03 10:00 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #BroadbandBreakfast #Censorship ☞ Automated #SocialControlMedia Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/automated-social-media-moderation-in-focus-following-allegations-of-censorship-of-groups/ | Jun 03 10:00 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #BroadbandBreakfast #Censorship ☞ Automated #SocialControlMedia Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/automated-social-media-moderation-in-focus-following-allegations-of-censorship-of-groups/ | Jun 03 10:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Automated Social Media Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship : Broadband Breakfast | Jun 03 10:00 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | broadbandbreakfast.com | Automated Social Media Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship : Broadband Breakfast | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz | <li> | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz/fn | <li> | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/">GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF</a></h5> | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz/fn | <h5><a href="https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/">GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF</a></h5> | Jun 03 10:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softwarefreedom.org | GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 03 10:00 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.softwarefreedom.org | GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz | <blockquote> | Jun 03 10:00 |
schestowitz/fn | <blockquote> | Jun 03 10:01 |
schestowitz | <p>I am not, and SFLC is not, counsel to FSF, the GNU Project, or the GCC Steering Committee. We do not speak for any of them. I have read the GCC Steering Committee statement on copyright assignment, and on that basis I can give an independent legal opinion.</p></blockquote></li> | Jun 03 10:01 |
schestowitz/fn | <p>I am not, and SFLC is not, counsel to FSF, the GNU Project, or the GCC Steering Committee. We do not speak for any of them. I have read the GCC Steering Committee statement on copyright assignment, and on that basis I can give an independent legal opinion.</p></blockquote></li> | Jun 03 10:01 |
is0ke3/fn | hello | Jun 03 10:01 |
is0ke3 | hello | Jun 03 10:01 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #GCC ☞ Update to #GCC copyright assignment policy https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html | Jun 03 10:01 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #GCC ☞ Update to #GCC copyright assignment policy https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html | Jun 03 10:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Update to GCC copyright assignment policy | Jun 03 10:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | gcc.gnu.org | Update to GCC copyright assignment policy | Jun 03 10:01 |
schestowitz | immibis: do you want some background and context? | Jun 03 10:03 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: do you want some background and context? | Jun 03 10:03 |
schestowitz | you are relatively new here, I don't want to come across as hostile | Jun 03 10:03 |
schestowitz/fn | you are relatively new here, I don't want to come across as hostile | Jun 03 10:03 |
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schestowitz | I just want to get on with writing and stuff, not deal with all the manufactured drama created by people who try to undermine the work | Jun 03 10:03 |
schestowitz/fn | I just want to get on with writing and stuff, not deal with all the manufactured drama created by people who try to undermine the work | Jun 03 10:03 |
schestowitz | either by preventing it happening or discouraging people linking to, associating etc. (which is their modus) | Jun 03 10:04 |
schestowitz/fn | either by preventing it happening or discouraging people linking to, associating etc. (which is their modus) | Jun 03 10:04 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CreativeCommons ☞ The 2021 #CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open https://creativecommons.org/2021/06/02/the-2021-cc-global-summit-call-for-proposals-is-now-open/ | Jun 03 10:04 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #CreativeCommons ☞ The 2021 #CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open https://creativecommons.org/2021/06/02/the-2021-cc-global-summit-call-for-proposals-is-now-open/ | Jun 03 10:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | The 2021 CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open - Creative Commons | Jun 03 10:04 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | creativecommons.org | The 2021 CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open - Creative Commons | Jun 03 10:04 |
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techrights-bot | #AtariVCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games ⚓ https://games.mxdwn.com/news/atari-vcs-home-gaming-and-entertainment-system-releasing-june-15/ ䷉ #games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 10:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-games.mxdwn.com | Atari VCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games | Jun 03 10:06 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #AtariVCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games ⚓ https://games.mxdwn.com/news/atari-vcs-home-gaming-and-entertainment-system-releasing-june-15/ ䷉ #games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 10:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 10:06 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | games.mxdwn.com | Atari VCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games | Jun 03 10:06 |
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techrights-bot | Proton Experimental prepares for #NVIDIA #DLSS , optional #NVAPI and more game fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29845 | Jun 03 10:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:09 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Proton Experimental prepares for #NVIDIA #DLSS , optional #NVAPI and more game fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29845 | Jun 03 10:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:09 |
techrights-bot | It's been over "20 years in the making", #Blender3d 2.93 LTS is out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29846 #freesw | Jun 03 10:11 |
techrights-bot/fn | It's been over "20 years in the making", #Blender3d 2.93 LTS is out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29846 #freesw | Jun 03 10:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:11 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:11 |
gustaf | schestowitz: there's no need for anyone to screenshot something, becuse the same content is published for all to see 1 day later; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:28:59 | Jun 03 10:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Jun 03 10:12 | |
gustaf/fn | schestowitz: there's no need for anyone to screenshot something, becuse the same content is published for all to see 1 day later; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:28:59 | Jun 03 10:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Jun 03 10:12 |
techrights-bot | "AI improvements" = further changed to code. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/total-war-rome-remastered-gets-a-small-first-patch-devs-looking-into-ai-improvements | Jun 03 10:12 |
techrights-bot/fn | "AI improvements" = further changed to code. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/total-war-rome-remastered-gets-a-small-first-patch-devs-looking-into-ai-improvements | Jun 03 10:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Total War: ROME REMASTERED gets a small first patch, devs looking into AI improvements | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 10:12 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Total War: ROME REMASTERED gets a small first patch, devs looking into AI improvements | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 10:12 |
schestowitz | gustaf: true, with context too | Jun 03 10:12 |
schestowitz/fn | gustaf: true, with context too | Jun 03 10:12 |
schestowitz | afaik, almost everyone ignored BaronVladimirHar at the time | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz/fn | afaik, almost everyone ignored BaronVladimirHar at the time | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz | BTW, BaronVladimirHar is gay | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz/fn | BTW, BaronVladimirHar is gay | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz | and so that sort of puts in context what he said | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz/fn | and so that sort of puts in context what he said | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz | he's upset at people who claim to be -- in their OWN words -- "SJW" and then ignore the people who commit genocide against gays | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz/fn | he's upset at people who claim to be -- in their OWN words -- "SJW" and then ignore the people who commit genocide against gays | Jun 03 10:13 |
schestowitz | they instead pick on people like Torvalds and RMS, who are left leaning and tolerant | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz/fn | they instead pick on people like Torvalds and RMS, who are left leaning and tolerant | Jun 03 10:14 |
gustaf | ok, thanks for expanding. | Jun 03 10:14 |
gustaf/fn | ok, thanks for expanding. | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz | they even try to call Torvalds "sexist" http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz/fn | they even try to call Torvalds "sexist" http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ | Jun 03 10:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights | Jun 03 10:14 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz | they're best off ignored | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz/fn | they're best off ignored | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz | and guess who pays them | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz/fn | and guess who pays them | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz | Google, Red Hat/IBM... | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz/fn | Google, Red Hat/IBM... | Jun 03 10:14 |
schestowitz | they need a good distraction from themselves | Jun 03 10:15 |
schestowitz/fn | they need a good distraction from themselves | Jun 03 10:15 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Jun 03 10:15 |
schestowitz/fn | http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Jun 03 10:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Jun 03 10:15 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Jun 03 10:15 |
gustaf | I respect your desire for transparency w/ public logging, but for your own sake, and not to detract from your stated mission, maybe let people know that advocating for lynching isn't the best look? | Jun 03 10:16 |
gustaf/fn | I respect your desire for transparency w/ public logging, but for your own sake, and not to detract from your stated mission, maybe let people know that advocating for lynching isn't the best look? | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz | the only "community" they can tolerate is UNPAID LABOUR that reports bugs | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz/fn | the only "community" they can tolerate is UNPAID LABOUR that reports bugs | Jun 03 10:16 |
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schestowitz | gustaf: not what BaronVladimirHar did in that case | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz/fn | gustaf: not what BaronVladimirHar did in that case | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz | read carefully | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz/fn | read carefully | Jun 03 10:16 |
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gustaf | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:33:05 | Jun 03 10:16 |
gustaf/fn | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:33:05 | Jun 03 10:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Jun 03 10:16 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz | he blasted the troll for looking the other way when people are killed in droves | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz/fn | he blasted the troll for looking the other way when people are killed in droves | Jun 03 10:16 |
schestowitz | gustaf: he says a lot of nonsense | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz/fn | gustaf: he says a lot of nonsense | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz | Matrix banned him | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz/fn | Matrix banned him | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz | I don't endorse his political views | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz/fn | I don't endorse his political views | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz | and I repeatedly asked him to stay on topic | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz/fn | and I repeatedly asked him to stay on topic | Jun 03 10:17 |
gustaf | fair enough | Jun 03 10:17 |
gustaf/fn | fair enough | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz | we don't police who comes here | Jun 03 10:17 |
schestowitz/fn | we don't police who comes here | Jun 03 10:17 |
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gustaf | yah Im new here too, only started to follow this stuff when fN imploded | Jun 03 10:18 |
gustaf/fn | yah Im new here too, only started to follow this stuff when fN imploded | Jun 03 10:18 |
gustaf | thanks again for expanding | Jun 03 10:18 |
gustaf/fn | thanks again for expanding | Jun 03 10:18 |
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schestowitz | I am personally more concerned about the likes of Garrett here than BaronVladimirHar techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ | Jun 03 10:18 |
schestowitz/fn | I am personally more concerned about the likes of Garrett here than BaronVladimirHar techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ | Jun 03 10:18 |
schestowitz | their life is so pathetic they can devote YEARS to taking down people | Jun 03 10:18 |
schestowitz/fn | their life is so pathetic they can devote YEARS to taking down people | Jun 03 10:18 |
schestowitz | people, not orgs | Jun 03 10:18 |
schestowitz/fn | people, not orgs | Jun 03 10:18 |
techrights-bot | #Ubuntu and #Fedora Community • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 10:20 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Ubuntu and #Fedora Community • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 10:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Fedora Community | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Fedora Community | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:20 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EFF #tor ☞ #PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/paypal-shuts-down-long-time-tor-supporter-no-recourse Well, @EFF wants to shut down FSF: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ | Jun 03 10:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 03 10:23 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights | Jun 03 10:23 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #EFF #tor ☞ #PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/paypal-shuts-down-long-time-tor-supporter-no-recourse Well, @EFF wants to shut down FSF: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ | Jun 03 10:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.eff.org | PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 03 10:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights | Jun 03 10:23 |
techrights-bot | Media hardly mentions #assange and #olabini anymore. Because this 'media' hardly cares about media and #journalism ... it would barely hide that fact that it buries those who do. | Jun 03 10:25 |
techrights-bot/fn | Media hardly mentions #assange and #olabini anymore. Because this 'media' hardly cares about media and #journalism ... it would barely hide that fact that it buries those who do. | Jun 03 10:25 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #censorship ☞ Content Moderation Case Study: #Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/11283546915/content-moderation-case-study-twitter-suspends-users-who-tweet-word-memphis-2021.shtml or WORSE: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Jun 03 10:26 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #censorship ☞ Content Moderation Case Study: #Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/11283546915/content-moderation-case-study-twitter-suspends-users-who-tweet-word-memphis-2021.shtml or WORSE: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Jun 03 10:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Content Moderation Case Study: Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Jun 03 10:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Jun 03 10:26 |
schestowitz | = | Jun 03 10:27 |
schestowitz/fn | = | Jun 03 10:27 |
schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-Drops-FSF-CA | Jun 03 10:27 |
schestowitz/fn | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-Drops-FSF-CA | Jun 03 10:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC To No Longer Require Copyright Assignment To The Free Software Foundation - Phoronix | Jun 03 10:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | GCC To No Longer Require Copyright Assignment To The Free Software Foundation - Phoronix | Jun 03 10:27 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From #Brazil https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/10280446886/are-partial-liability-rules-path-forward-intermediary-liability-regimes-lessons-learned-brazil.shtml | Jun 03 10:27 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From #Brazil https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/10280446886/are-partial-liability-rules-path-forward-intermediary-liability-regimes-lessons-learned-brazil.shtml | Jun 03 10:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From Brazil | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From Brazil | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:27 |
techrights-bot | #wikipedia article about #OSI is being 'manicured' at THE REQUEST OF OSI President (abuse of Wikipedia rules, AFAIK) http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=1026345897&oldid=1026345614 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=1 | Jun 03 10:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights | Jun 03 10:30 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #wikipedia article about #OSI is being 'manicured' at THE REQUEST OF OSI President (abuse of Wikipedia rules, AFAIK) http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=1026345897&oldid=1026345614 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index. <clipped message> | Jun 03 10:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Revision history - Wikipedia | Jun 03 10:30 | |
techrights-bot/fn | php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=10 | Jun 03 10:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia | Jun 03 10:30 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Error - Wikipedia | Jun 03 10:30 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights | Jun 03 10:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Revision history - Wikipedia | Jun 03 10:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia | Jun 03 10:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | en.wikipedia.org | Error - Wikipedia | Jun 03 10:30 |
techrights-bot | #OSI is basically defunct. Now it's making #wikipedia defunct as well (to hide the fact of how OSI basically killed itself). http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/ | Jun 03 10:31 |
techrights-bot/fn | #OSI is basically defunct. Now it's making #wikipedia defunct as well (to hide the fact of how OSI basically killed itself). http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/ | Jun 03 10:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights | Jun 03 10:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights | Jun 03 10:31 |
techrights-bot | #capitalism as a #religion not to be 'offended' https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/capitalism-is-a-misanthropic-dystopian-religion/ | Jun 03 10:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Capitalism Is A Misanthropic, Dystopian Religion – neritam | Jun 03 10:32 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #capitalism as a #religion not to be 'offended' https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/capitalism-is-a-misanthropic-dystopian-religion/ | Jun 03 10:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | neritam.wordpress.com | Capitalism Is A Misanthropic, Dystopian Religion – neritam | Jun 03 10:32 |
techrights-bot | #OSI last phase (before death): we hide the fact that we're dead and censor people who point out what we did to ourselves... by publicly libelling them for #censorship purposes http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ | Jun 03 10:33 |
techrights-bot/fn | #OSI last phase (before death): we hide the fact that we're dead and censor people who point out what we did to ourselves... by publicly libelling them for #censorship purposes http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ | Jun 03 10:33 |
techrights-bot/fn | The next action against #fsf (led partly by #ibm -paid mob) https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/01/1940248 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ | Jun 03 10:34 |
techrights-bot | The next action against #fsf (led partly by #ibm -paid mob) https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/01/1940248 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ | Jun 03 10:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | GCC 9.4 Released; GCC Drops Copyright Assignment to the FSF - SoylentNews | Jun 03 10:34 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights | Jun 03 10:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | soylentnews.org | GCC 9.4 Released; GCC Drops Copyright Assignment to the FSF - SoylentNews | Jun 03 10:34 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights | Jun 03 10:35 |
techrights-bot | #ibm and superspreaders. Anything for control over people. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ | Jun 03 10:36 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ibm and superspreaders. Anything for control over people. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ | Jun 03 10:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 10:36 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 10:36 |
techrights-bot | A lot of the #gcc devs who push against the #fsf are #ibm employees http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ | Jun 03 10:38 |
techrights-bot/fn | A lot of the #gcc devs who push against the #fsf are #ibm employees http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ | Jun 03 10:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights | Jun 03 10:38 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights | Jun 03 10:38 |
techrights-bot | #IBM : We Trust #Microsoft , We Don’t Trust the #FSF • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ | Jun 03 10:39 |
techrights-bot/fn | #IBM : We Trust #Microsoft , We Don’t Trust the #FSF • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ | Jun 03 10:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM: We Trust Microsoft, We Don’t Trust the FSF | Techrights | Jun 03 10:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | IBM: We Trust Microsoft, We Don’t Trust the FSF | Techrights | Jun 03 10:39 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines https://torrentfreak.com/mangamura-operator-handed-three-year-prison-sentence-650k-in-fines-210602/ | Jun 03 10:39 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines https://torrentfreak.com/mangamura-operator-handed-three-year-prison-sentence-650k-in-fines-210602/ | Jun 03 10:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines * TorrentFreak | Jun 03 10:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines * TorrentFreak | Jun 03 10:39 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale https://torrentfreak.com/database-of-pirate-site-haven-ddos-guard-is-reportedly-up-for-sale-210602/ | Jun 03 10:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale * TorrentFreak | Jun 03 10:40 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale https://torrentfreak.com/database-of-pirate-site-haven-ddos-guard-is-reportedly-up-for-sale-210602/ | Jun 03 10:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale * TorrentFreak | Jun 03 10:40 |
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techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/12324246916/conversation-about-video-game-preservation-gaming-industry-is-long-long-overdue.shtml | Jun 03 10:43 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/12324246916/conversation-about-video-game-preservation-gaming-industry-is-long-long-overdue.shtml | Jun 03 10:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:43 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:43 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/09483046913/trump-bans-himself-his-own-blog-upset-that-everyone-mocked-terrible-traffic.shtml | Jun 03 10:47 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/09483046913/trump-bans-himself-his-own-blog-upset-that-everyone-mocked-terrible-traffic.shtml | Jun 03 10:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:47 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #ehrc ☞ Europe's Human Rights Court Says #UK Mass #Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210526/11553046878/europes-human-rights-court-says-uk-mass-surveillance-violated-rights-unlawfully-obtained-journalists-communications.shtml | Jun 03 10:50 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #ehrc ☞ Europe's Human Rights Court Says #UK Mass #Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210526/11553046878/europes-human-rights-court-says-uk-mass-surveillance-violated-rights-unlawfully-obtained-journalists-communications.shtml | Jun 03 10:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Europe's Human Rights Court Says UK Mass Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:50 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Europe's Human Rights Court Says UK Mass Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications | Techdirt | Jun 03 10:50 |
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techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Tor ☞ New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.17 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 | Jun 03 10:53 |
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techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Tor ☞ New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.17 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 | Jun 03 10:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | ( status 404 @ https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 ) | Jun 03 10:53 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange ☞ Public inauguration of the #AnythingToSay statue https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-clip/public-inauguration-of-the-anythingtosay-statue/ | Jun 03 10:55 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange ☞ Public inauguration of the #AnythingToSay statue https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-clip/public-inauguration-of-the-anythingtosay-statue/ | Jun 03 10:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Public inauguration of the AnythingToSay? statue - Don't Extradite Assange | Jun 03 10:55 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | dontextraditeassange.com | Public inauguration of the AnythingToSay? statue - Don't Extradite Assange | Jun 03 10:55 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ @EFF at 30: #Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward @Snowden https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/eff-30-surveillance-isnt-prerequisite-edward-snowden EFF at 30 is dying, after the (co)founder did http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ | Jun 03 10:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF at 30: Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward Snowden | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 03 10:56 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ @EFF at 30: #Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward @Snowden https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/eff-30-surveillance-isnt-prerequisite-edward-snowden EFF at 30 is dying, after the (co)founder did http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ | Jun 03 10:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.eff.org | EFF at 30: Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward Snowden | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 03 10:56 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-blog-shuts-down-weeks-after-launch-having-failed-to-garner-a-following/ | Jun 03 10:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following | Jun 03 10:58 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-blog-shuts-down-weeks-after-launch-having-failed-to-garner-a-following/ | Jun 03 10:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | truthout.org | Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following | Jun 03 10:58 |
techrights-bot | I find this funny. He invested far too much in #socialcontrolmedia and in 2021 nobody knows he exists. https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22464930/donald-trump-blog-facebook-twitter-social-media-platform | Jun 03 11:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Donald Trump has shut down his blog - The Verge | Jun 03 11:02 | |
techrights-bot/fn | I find this funny. He invested far too much in #socialcontrolmedia and in 2021 nobody knows he exists. https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22464930/donald-trump-blog-facebook-twitter-social-media-platform | Jun 03 11:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.theverge.com | Donald Trump has shut down his blog - The Verge | Jun 03 11:02 |
techrights-bot | Lesson of the story: if for decades you've put all the eggs in the #socialcontrolmedia basket, you are doomed https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-scraps-short-lived-blog-n1269337 | Jun 03 11:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Trump scraps short-lived blog that was created in wake of social media bans | Jun 03 11:14 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Lesson of the story: if for decades you've put all the eggs in the #socialcontrolmedia basket, you are doomed https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-scraps-short-lived-blog-n1269337 | Jun 03 11:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.nbcnews.com | Trump scraps short-lived blog that was created in wake of social media bans | Jun 03 11:14 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Nearly 15,000 young people ran their code on the ISS for #AstroPi 2020/21! https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/nearly-15000-young-people-code-ran-on-international-space-station-astro-pi-2020-21/ | Jun 03 11:19 |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Nearly 15,000 young people ran their code on the ISS for #AstroPi 2020/21! https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/nearly-15000-young-people-code-ran-on-international-space-station-astro-pi-2020-21/ | Jun 03 11:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Nearly 15,000 young people ran their code on the ISS for Astro Pi 2020/21! - Raspberry Pi | Jun 03 11:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.raspberrypi.org | Nearly 15,000 young people ran their code on the ISS for Astro Pi 2020/21! - Raspberry Pi | Jun 03 11:19 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #BigOil Fought Cybersecurity Regulations, Making #Pipeline Attacks Easier https://truthout.org/articles/big-oil-fought-cybersecurity-regulations-making-pipeline-attacks-easier/ actually #microsoft and the person who put #WINDOWS in pipelines should be prosecuted | Jun 03 11:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Big Oil Fought Cybersecurity Regulations, Making Pipeline Attacks Easier | Jun 03 11:32 | |
techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #BigOil Fought Cybersecurity Regulations, Making #Pipeline Attacks Easier https://truthout.org/articles/big-oil-fought-cybersecurity-regulations-making-pipeline-attacks-easier/ actually #microsoft and the person who put #WINDOWS in pipelines should be prosecuted | Jun 03 11:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | truthout.org | Big Oil Fought Cybersecurity Regulations, Making Pipeline Attacks Easier | Jun 03 11:32 |
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techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▄▄▅▇▁▅▅▂▃▅▂▃▃▃▅▆▁▂▆▆▅▄▅▆▆▅▇▁▅▄▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.36 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂█▂▂▂█▁▂▃▂▂▁▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂█▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.40▕ swarm size (avg): 237.27 ⟲ | Jun 03 12:31 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▄▄▅▇▁▅▅▂▃▅▂▃▃▃▅▆▁▂▆▆▅▄▅▆▆▅▇▁▅▄▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.36 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂█▂▂▂█▁▂▃▂▂▁▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂█▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.40▕ swarm size (avg): 237.27 ⟲ | Jun 03 12:31 |
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techrights-bot | #Games : Preservation, Atari VCS, Total War: ROME REMASTERED • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151889 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:06 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Games : Preservation, Atari VCS, Total War: ROME REMASTERED • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151889 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Preservation, Atari VCS, Total War: ROME REMASTERED | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:07 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Preservation, Atari VCS, Total War: ROME REMASTERED | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:07 |
techrights-bot | #Compiling Linux and Static Analysis Tools • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151890 #kernel #programming #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:09 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Compiling Linux and Static Analysis Tools • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151890 #kernel #programming #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compiling Linux and Static Analysis Tools | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:09 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Compiling Linux and Static Analysis Tools | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:09 |
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techrights-bot/fn | WHY would you want to do that? Better to just port whatever was scripted in this #malware -bringing trash in bash or something portable https://idroot.us/install-powershell-debian-10/ | Jun 03 13:17 |
techrights-bot | WHY would you want to do that? Better to just port whatever was scripted in this #malware -bringing trash in bash or something portable https://idroot.us/install-powershell-debian-10/ | Jun 03 13:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idroot.us | How To Install PowerShell on Debian 10 - idroot | Jun 03 13:17 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | idroot.us | How To Install PowerShell on Debian 10 - idroot | Jun 03 13:17 |
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techrights-bot | #microsoft pretends to 'buying' some #security firm (just hiring its workers, but making it look BIG) will improve security while Microsoft puts #nsa back doors in everything http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jun 03 13:26 |
techrights-bot/fn | #microsoft pretends to 'buying' some #security firm (just hiring its workers, but making it look BIG) will improve security while Microsoft puts #nsa back doors in everything http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jun 03 13:26 |
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TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jun 03 13:26 |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:27 |
techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:27 | |
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techrights-bot | #enigmail should never have let #mozilla take over #encryption in #thunderbird because Mozilla now introduces bugs that break encryption (E2EE), not fixing them for months... Mozilla, WTH? | Jun 03 13:28 |
techrights-bot/fn | #enigmail should never have let #mozilla take over #encryption in #thunderbird because Mozilla now introduces bugs that break encryption (E2EE), not fixing them for months... Mozilla, WTH? | Jun 03 13:28 |
techrights-bot | #PopOS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:31 |
techrights-bot/fn | #PopOS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 13:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 03 13:31 |
techrights-bot | #ibm #covid19 #greed #supersupreaders "Are _workers_ eager to go back? Personally, I am not. Now, senior execs, on the other other hand... All they see is $$$ flying out the windows of the hundreds of properties\facilities they OWN and operate" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 13:32 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ibm #covid19 #greed #supersupreaders "Are _workers_ eager to go back? Personally, I am not. Now, senior execs, on the other other hand... All they see is $$$ flying out the windows of the hundreds of properties\facilities they OWN and operate" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 13:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 13:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 13:32 |
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techrights-bot | "In Turkish #trademark practice, it is agreed that well-known marks need broader protection than ordinary marks. Turkey has various statutes extending the scope of protection of well-known marks to different goods/services where certain conditions exist." https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA4996 | Jun 03 13:47 |
techrights-bot/fn | "In Turkish #trademark practice, it is agreed that well-known marks need broader protection than ordinary marks. Turkey has various statutes extending the scope of protection of well-known marks to different goods/services where certain conditions exist." https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA4996 | Jun 03 13:47 |
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techrights-bot | "In this post, Amy Thomas (RTA, PhD Candidate, University of Glasgow) identifies empirical research surrounding the relationship between #copyright and T&Cs, revealing a complex area where law, contract and technology work (often at odds with each other) to regulate user creativity." https://www.create.ac.uk/blog/2021/05/28/21-for-2021-user-creativity-in-online-platforms-copyright-or-contract/ | Jun 03 13:47 |
techrights-bot/fn | "In this post, Amy Thomas (RTA, PhD Candidate, University of Glasgow) identifies empirical research surrounding the relationship between #copyright and T&Cs, revealing a complex area where law, contract and technology work (often at odds with each other) to regulate user creativity." https://www.create.ac.uk/blog/2021/05/28/21-for-2021-user-creativity-in-online-platforms-copyright-or-contract/ | Jun 03 13:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.create.ac.uk | 21 for 2021: User Creativity in Online Platforms – Copyright or Contract? – CREATe | Jun 03 13:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.create.ac.uk | 21 for 2021: User Creativity in Online Platforms – Copyright or Contract? – CREATe | Jun 03 13:47 |
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techrights-bot | #copyright #cartel (or "Mafia") in #italy http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/towards-the-italian-implementation-of-the-cdsm-directive/ #eu #monopolies | Jun 03 13:48 |
techrights-bot/fn | #copyright #cartel (or "Mafia") in #italy http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/towards-the-italian-implementation-of-the-cdsm-directive/ #eu #monopolies | Jun 03 13:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | Towards the Italian implementation of the CDSM Directive - Kluwer Copyright Blog | Jun 03 13:48 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | Towards the Italian implementation of the CDSM Directive - Kluwer Copyright Blog | Jun 03 13:49 |
techrights-bot | Who would have thought you can 'own' the word "Footware” https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ | Jun 03 13:50 |
techrights-bot/fn | Who would have thought you can 'own' the word "Footware” https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ | Jun 03 13:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ ) | Jun 03 13:50 | |
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techrights-bot | Would have have imagined a combination of two colours (yes!) could be 'owned'... http://trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/sometimes-they-come-back-horror-movie-no-general-court-of-the-eu-on-colour-combinations/ | Jun 03 13:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com | “SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK”….. Horror movie? No - General Court of the EU on colour combinations! - Kluwer Trademark Blog | Jun 03 13:52 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Would have have imagined a combination of two colours (yes!) could be 'owned'... http://trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/sometimes-they-come-back-horror-movie-no-general-court-of-the-eu-on-colour-combinations/ | Jun 03 13:52 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com | “SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK”….. Horror movie? No - General Court of the EU on colour combinations! - Kluwer Trademark Blog | Jun 03 13:52 |
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techrights-bot | The singer should sue this #patent holder for #trademark violation :-) https://www.thecentralvirginian.com/news/state/european-patent-office-has-issued-rivanna-a-notice-of-allowance-for-european-patent-application-ultrasound/image_d1b0c3e9-fc63-5119-9234-d4f5c1618949.html | Jun 03 13:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-European Patent Office has issued RIVANNA a notice of allowance for European patent application. Ultrasound Imaging of Specular Reflecting Target. | State | thecentralvirginian.com | Jun 03 13:54 | |
techrights-bot/fn | The singer should sue this #patent holder for #trademark violation :-) https://www.thecentralvirginian.com/news/state/european-patent-office-has-issued-rivanna-a-notice-of-allowance-for-european-patent-application-ultrasound/image_d1b0c3e9-fc63-5119-9234-d4f5c1618949.html | Jun 03 13:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | European Patent Office has issued RIVANNA a notice of allowance for European patent application. Ultrasound Imaging of Specular Reflecting Target. | State | thecentralvirginian.com | Jun 03 13:54 |
XRevan86 | Hm, I wonder what I did, the last message here for me is "(2021-06-03 22:16:32) schestowitz: with a co-founder banned" | Jun 03 13:54 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Hm, I wonder what I did, the last message here for me is "(2021-06-03 22:16:32) schestowitz: with a co-founder banned" | Jun 03 13:54 |
XRevan86 | If anyone wrote me after that time, I didn't see it. | Jun 03 13:54 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] If anyone wrote me after that time, I didn't see it. | Jun 03 13:54 |
techrights-bot | #patents are making #car production legal land mines https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/06/02/bmw-files-patent-for-virtual-mirror-hud-mirror/ a lot are bogus #swpats | Jun 03 13:55 |
techrights-bot/fn | #patents are making #car production legal land mines https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/06/02/bmw-files-patent-for-virtual-mirror-hud-mirror/ a lot are bogus #swpats | Jun 03 13:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bmwblog.com | BMW files patent for virtual mirror (HUD Mirror) | Jun 03 13:55 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.bmwblog.com | BMW files patent for virtual mirror (HUD Mirror) | Jun 03 13:55 |
XRevan86 | or rather, my client logged until 04:30 UTC, so after that actually | Jun 03 13:56 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] or rather, my client logged until 04:30 UTC, so after that actually | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz | maybe | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz | the TR-FN bridge worked OK | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz/fn | the TR-FN bridge worked OK | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz | but I'm not on "that other network" | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz/fn | but I'm not on "that other network" | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz | so wondered if it has been that quiet | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz/fn | so wondered if it has been that quiet | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz | or maybe you culled something | Jun 03 13:56 |
schestowitz/fn | or maybe you culled something | Jun 03 13:56 |
XRevan86 | It's not the bridges, it's biboumi | Jun 03 13:56 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] It's not the bridges, it's biboumi | Jun 03 13:56 |
XRevan86 | it stopped recording into muclogline for some reason | Jun 03 13:57 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] it stopped recording into muclogline for some reason | Jun 03 13:57 |
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XRevan86 | annoying | Jun 03 14:02 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] annoying | Jun 03 14:02 |
schestowitz | so was there something there we did not see? | Jun 03 14:02 |
schestowitz/fn | so was there something there we did not see? | Jun 03 14:02 |
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XRevan86 | No, there's something I didn't see. | Jun 03 14:02 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] No, there's something I didn't see. | Jun 03 14:02 |
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schestowitz | either way, if we create dependency on bridges, they must be reliable | Jun 03 14:02 |
schestowitz/fn | either way, if we create dependency on bridges, they must be reliable | Jun 03 14:02 |
schestowitz | otherwise people might be led to networks that aren't reliably seen | Jun 03 14:02 |
schestowitz/fn | otherwise people might be led to networks that aren't reliably seen | Jun 03 14:02 |
schestowitz | (with wrong expectation of participation) | Jun 03 14:03 |
schestowitz/fn | (with wrong expectation of participation) | Jun 03 14:03 |
BaronVladimirHar | The government makes them put so much junk on cars these days. Like safety sensors that fight you for the wheel and cost so much that you may as well chuck the car if you crash it once. | Jun 03 14:03 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The government makes them put so much junk on cars these days. Like safety sensors that fight you for the wheel and cost so much that you may as well chuck the car if you crash it once. | Jun 03 14:03 |
XRevan86 | Regarding "the other network", moderation needs to be resolved first. | Jun 03 14:03 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Regarding "the other network", moderation needs to be resolved first. | Jun 03 14:03 |
schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: congrats | Jun 03 14:04 |
schestowitz/fn | BaronVladimirHar: congrats | Jun 03 14:04 |
schestowitz | the troll now uses you to smear us | Jun 03 14:04 |
schestowitz/fn | the troll now uses you to smear us | Jun 03 14:04 |
XRevan86 | I think they noticed that the bridge left the premises %). | Jun 03 14:04 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I think they noticed that the bridge left the premises %). | Jun 03 14:04 |
schestowitz | I wonder what they say there, as yesterday it seemed like 'their #techrights channel was pure noise and disruption | Jun 03 14:05 |
schestowitz/fn | I wonder what they say there, as yesterday it seemed like 'their #techrights channel was pure noise and disruption | Jun 03 14:05 |
BaronVladimirHar | Well, maybe he can mention that he called me a pedophile over private message, unprompted. | Jun 03 14:06 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Well, maybe he can mention that he called me a pedophile over private message, unprompted. | Jun 03 14:06 |
BaronVladimirHar | When I didn't respond and closed that window, he started sending me more messages again until I blocked him. | Jun 03 14:07 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | When I didn't respond and closed that window, he started sending me more messages again until I blocked him. | Jun 03 14:07 |
techrights-bot | Silly gimmicks to impress silly 'friends' https://dissociatedpress.net/2021/06/02/the-remarkable-2-needs-refinement-writing-workflow-and-usability/ | Jun 03 14:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissociatedpress.net | The reMarkable 2 needs reFinement: Writing, workflow and usability : Dissociated Press | Jun 03 14:07 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Silly gimmicks to impress silly 'friends' https://dissociatedpress.net/2021/06/02/the-remarkable-2-needs-refinement-writing-workflow-and-usability/ | Jun 03 14:07 |
BaronVladimirHar | Now that he's over on Liberal Chat, he's back. I told you the bridge was a problem. | Jun 03 14:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | dissociatedpress.net | The reMarkable 2 needs reFinement: Writing, workflow and usability : Dissociated Press | Jun 03 14:07 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Now that he's over on Liberal Chat, he's back. I told you the bridge was a problem. | Jun 03 14:07 |
XRevan86 | The screenshot is made at irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 14:08 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] The screenshot is made at irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 14:08 |
BaronVladimirHar | He has done some pretty disgusting things, but it seems now that their goto is to call everyone they don't like a pedophile. It's a bit much, but he is a drama queen. | Jun 03 14:08 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | He has done some pretty disgusting things, but it seems now that their goto is to call everyone they don't like a pedophile. It's a bit much, but he is a drama queen. | Jun 03 14:08 |
BaronVladimirHar | I wouldn't worry about what his fellow Twitheads think. Most of his posts get like 2-3 likes, tops. | Jun 03 14:09 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I wouldn't worry about what his fellow Twitheads think. Most of his posts get like 2-3 likes, tops. | Jun 03 14:09 |
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BaronVladimirHar | The accusations are ramping up now that it's more obvious that the hive of pedophilia is actually in Microsoft and it was (maybe is) at the top of the company. Along with sexual harassment in general that they tolerated for at least the entire time Gates was involved directly there. | Jun 03 14:10 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | The accusations are ramping up now that it's more obvious that the hive of pedophilia is actually in Microsoft and it was (maybe is) at the top of the company. Along with sexual harassment in general that they tolerated for at least the entire time Gates was involved directly there. | Jun 03 14:10 |
BaronVladimirHar | Which only officially ended last year. | Jun 03 14:10 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Which only officially ended last year. | Jun 03 14:10 |
techrights-bot | You Can Now Try the New COSMIC Desktop Environment with #PopOS 21.04 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29847 #gnu #linux | Jun 03 14:12 |
techrights-bot/fn | You Can Now Try the New COSMIC Desktop Environment with #PopOS 21.04 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29847 #gnu #linux | Jun 03 14:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:12 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:12 |
BaronVladimirHar | Microsoft Edge moves the focus away from the engine and towards Microsoft's search engine. My guess is that they really don't care if you use Firefox other than it doesn't default to Bing. | Jun 03 14:13 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Microsoft Edge moves the focus away from the engine and towards Microsoft's search engine. My guess is that they really don't care if you use Firefox other than it doesn't default to Bing. | Jun 03 14:13 |
BaronVladimirHar | I noticed that they don't annoy you to switch away from Vivaldi. Maybe that's their search engine deal. | Jun 03 14:14 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I noticed that they don't annoy you to switch away from Vivaldi. Maybe that's their search engine deal. | Jun 03 14:14 |
techrights-bot | #BSDNow 405: OOM Killer Feature https://www.bsdnow.tv/405 #bsd #unix | Jun 03 14:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 405: OOM Killer Feature | Jun 03 14:14 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #BSDNow 405: OOM Killer Feature https://www.bsdnow.tv/405 #bsd #unix | Jun 03 14:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 405: OOM Killer Feature | Jun 03 14:14 |
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techrights-bot | Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ | Jun 03 14:21 |
techrights-bot/fn | Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ | Jun 03 14:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-antixlinux.com | antiX-19.4 runit bug and fix – antiX Linux | Jun 03 14:21 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | antixlinux.com | antiX-19.4 runit bug and fix – antiX Linux | Jun 03 14:21 |
techrights-bot | "There is a bug in the runit editions of antiX-19.4 (full and base) after installation via the gui installer. Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ | Jun 03 14:22 |
techrights-bot/fn | "There is a bug in the runit editions of antiX-19.4 (full and base) after installation via the gui installer. Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ | Jun 03 14:22 |
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techrights-bot | #Manjaro Vs #EndeavourOS : Which One’s The Best Arch-Based Distribution? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151892 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Vs EndeavourOS: Which One’s The Best Arch-Based Distribution? | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:24 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Manjaro Vs #EndeavourOS : Which One’s The Best Arch-Based Distribution? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151892 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Vs EndeavourOS: Which One’s The Best Arch-Based Distribution? | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:24 |
BaronVladimirHar | With the hundreds of things moved over to use systemd, I'm sure there always will be "bugs" without it. | Jun 03 14:24 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | With the hundreds of things moved over to use systemd, I'm sure there always will be "bugs" without it. | Jun 03 14:24 |
techrights-bot | "Many of these #IBM buildings/campuses were at 25% occupancy before Covid even started. Another example of IBM execs being simply afraid/unable to make any real decisions." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 14:26 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Many of these #IBM buildings/campuses were at 25% occupancy before Covid even started. Another example of IBM execs being simply afraid/unable to make any real decisions." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 14:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 14:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 14:26 |
techrights-bot | "Because #IBM is lead by id--ts" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 14:27 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Because #IBM is lead by id--ts" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 14:27 |
techrights-bot | " #IBM continues to struggle to grow their revenue consistently as it has been in a steady decline over the past decade" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth | Jun 03 14:28 |
techrights-bot/fn | " #IBM continues to struggle to grow their revenue consistently as it has been in a steady decline over the past decade" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth | Jun 03 14:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth ) | Jun 03 14:28 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth ) | Jun 03 14:28 |
schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: it's OK, buy support | Jun 03 14:30 |
schestowitz/fn | BaronVladimirHar: it's OK, buy support | Jun 03 14:30 |
schestowitz | also buy support from Microsoft for UEFI 'secure' boot | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz/fn | also buy support from Microsoft for UEFI 'secure' boot | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz | put there by Red Hat employee http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz/fn | put there by Red Hat employee http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ | Jun 03 14:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights | Jun 03 14:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights | Jun 03 14:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights | Jun 03 14:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz | maybe Microsoft can do something to make your GNU/Linux boot again | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe Microsoft can do something to make your GNU/Linux boot again | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz | buy support | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz/fn | buy support | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz | or outsource the machine to Azure | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz/fn | or outsource the machine to Azure | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz | and stop worrying.. | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz/fn | and stop worrying.. | Jun 03 14:31 |
schestowitz | ooppppppp! https://www.theregister.com/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | Jun 03 14:32 |
schestowitz/fn | ooppppppp! https://www.theregister.com/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | Jun 03 14:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable • The Register | Jun 03 14:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.theregister.com | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable • The Register | Jun 03 14:32 |
schestowitz | https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2015/08/03/shim-info/ | Jun 03 14:32 |
schestowitz/fn | https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2015/08/03/shim-info/ | Jun 03 14:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.uncooperative.org | Secure Boot — Fedora, RHEL, and Shim Upstream Maintenance: Government Involvement or Lack Thereof - The Uncoöperative Organization | Jun 03 14:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | blog.uncooperative.org | Secure Boot — Fedora, RHEL, and Shim Upstream Maintenance: Government Involvement or Lack Thereof - The Uncoöperative Organization | Jun 03 14:32 |
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techrights-bot | #AlmaLinux Overview by an #Ubuntu User • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151893 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:35 |
techrights-bot/fn | #AlmaLinux Overview by an #Ubuntu User • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151893 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux Overview by an Ubuntu User | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:35 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux Overview by an Ubuntu User | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:35 |
BaronVladimirHar | "Duffy says he was paid less than US$3500 for the vulnerability disclosures under Microsoft's bug bounty but did not name a precise figure." | Jun 03 14:37 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | "Duffy says he was paid less than US$3500 for the vulnerability disclosures under Microsoft's bug bounty but did not name a precise figure." | Jun 03 14:37 |
BaronVladimirHar | LOL | Jun 03 14:37 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | LOL | Jun 03 14:37 |
BaronVladimirHar | You can make a lot more than that by hitting them with malware, so that's what everyone does instead. | Jun 03 14:37 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | You can make a lot more than that by hitting them with malware, so that's what everyone does instead. | Jun 03 14:37 |
BaronVladimirHar | Maybe 1,000-5,000 times more by encrypting their files and shutting down a gasoline pipeline or meat productions until they pay. | Jun 03 14:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Maybe 1,000-5,000 times more by encrypting their files and shutting down a gasoline pipeline or meat productions until they pay. | Jun 03 14:38 |
techrights-bot | Edge AI system combines Foxconn FXN3102 Arm SoC with Hailo-8 or #Lightspeeur 2801S AI accelerator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151860#comment-29848 | Jun 03 14:38 |
techrights-bot/fn | Edge AI system combines Foxconn FXN3102 Arm SoC with Hailo-8 or #Lightspeeur 2801S AI accelerator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151860#comment-29848 | Jun 03 14:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact edge AI box runs Ubuntu Server on 24-core Arm SoC with choice of NPUs | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:38 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Compact edge AI box runs Ubuntu Server on 24-core Arm SoC with choice of NPUs | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:38 |
BaronVladimirHar | If Microsoft isn't going to pay well for people to report bugs then they may as well not bother, because the people who turn them over to be fixed would probably have done so anyway. | Jun 03 14:38 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | If Microsoft isn't going to pay well for people to report bugs then they may as well not bother, because the people who turn them over to be fixed would probably have done so anyway. | Jun 03 14:38 |
BaronVladimirHar | What Microsoft is actually saying is that they don't care about CVEs. | Jun 03 14:39 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | What Microsoft is actually saying is that they don't care about CVEs. | Jun 03 14:39 |
techrights-bot | #KaliLinux 2021.2 Released : What’s New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29849 #gnu #linux | Jun 03 14:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:39 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #KaliLinux 2021.2 Released : What’s New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29849 #gnu #linux | Jun 03 14:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:39 |
techrights-bot | #PopOS 21.04 has a Beta out now with their new COSMIC desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29850 | Jun 03 14:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:40 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #PopOS 21.04 has a Beta out now with their new COSMIC desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29850 | Jun 03 14:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:40 |
BaronVladimirHar | Garrett acts as if "Secure Boot" has anything to do with security, after nothing Microsoft has ever done implies that they care. | Jun 03 14:42 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Garrett acts as if "Secure Boot" has anything to do with security, after nothing Microsoft has ever done implies that they care. | Jun 03 14:42 |
BaronVladimirHar | I think that someone at Microsoft decided it would make Windows Activation cracks harder to get away with and maybe plug a revenue leak. | Jun 03 14:42 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I think that someone at Microsoft decided it would make Windows Activation cracks harder to get away with and maybe plug a revenue leak. | Jun 03 14:42 |
techrights-bot | #HarmonyOS launched on #Huawei #MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151894 #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HarmonyOS launched on Huawei MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:43 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #HarmonyOS launched on #Huawei #MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151894 #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | HarmonyOS launched on Huawei MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:43 |
Old_Man | Am I still silenced here, due to schestowitz's hypocrisy? | Jun 03 14:44 |
Old_Man/fn | Am I still silenced here, due to schestowitz's hypocrisy? | Jun 03 14:44 |
BaronVladimirHar | Windows is littered with "security" theater. Like "Ransomware Protection" that has four known bypasses and Microsoft has said they don't plan on fixing any of them. | Jun 03 14:46 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Windows is littered with "security" theater. Like "Ransomware Protection" that has four known bypasses and Microsoft has said they don't plan on fixing any of them. | Jun 03 14:46 |
BaronVladimirHar | Oh, and it breaks thousands of legitimate applications. | Jun 03 14:46 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | Oh, and it breaks thousands of legitimate applications. | Jun 03 14:46 |
BaronVladimirHar | If you started whitelisting things to limit the damage to legitimate applications, malware could also evade it by dropping itself in the path of something likely to be overridden by the user, so that would be a fifth way around it. | Jun 03 14:47 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | If you started whitelisting things to limit the damage to legitimate applications, malware could also evade it by dropping itself in the path of something likely to be overridden by the user, so that would be a fifth way around it. | Jun 03 14:47 |
techrights-bot | Code contributions to GCC no longer have to be assigned to FSF, says compiler body http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29851 now #MicrosoftTim adds to the fire... http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ | Jun 03 14:47 |
techrights-bot/fn | Code contributions to GCC no longer have to be assigned to FSF, says compiler body http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29851 now #MicrosoftTim adds to the fire... http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ | Jun 03 14:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights | Jun 03 14:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights | Jun 03 14:47 |
BaronVladimirHar | I think Torvalds' biggest objection was the PE-only restriction, but that's not really a big one. Most distributions already shipped with binfmt_misc. Wine won't work without it. | Jun 03 14:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I think Torvalds' biggest objection was the PE-only restriction, but that's not really a big one. Most distributions already shipped with binfmt_misc. Wine won't work without it. | Jun 03 14:48 |
BaronVladimirHar | I don't believe that Mono would either. | Jun 03 14:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | I don't believe that Mono would either. | Jun 03 14:48 |
BaronVladimirHar | That uses PE. | Jun 03 14:48 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | That uses PE. | Jun 03 14:48 |
MinceR | immibis: no, i said it isn't _his_ social circle | Jun 03 14:49 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: no, i said it isn't _his_ social circle | Jun 03 14:49 |
MinceR | this isn't a microsoft/ibm fanboy meeting ground | Jun 03 14:49 |
MinceR/fn | this isn't a microsoft/ibm fanboy meeting ground | Jun 03 14:49 |
BaronVladimirHar | https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/02/amazon_sidewalk_mesh/ | Jun 03 14:50 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/02/amazon_sidewalk_mesh/ | Jun 03 14:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Deadline draws near to avoid auto-joining Amazon's mesh network Sidewalk • The Register | Jun 03 14:50 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.theregister.com | Deadline draws near to avoid auto-joining Amazon's mesh network Sidewalk • The Register | Jun 03 14:50 |
techrights-bot | #Nvidia and #Valve Bringing DLSS to Linux via Steam Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29852 | Jun 03 14:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:50 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Nvidia and #Valve Bringing DLSS to Linux via Steam Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29852 | Jun 03 14:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:50 |
BaronVladimirHar | MARISOL will be participating in an Amazon botnet soon. | Jun 03 14:50 |
BaronVladimirHar/fn | MARISOL will be participating in an Amazon botnet soon. | Jun 03 14:50 |
schestowitz | "smart cities" | Jun 03 14:51 |
schestowitz/fn | "smart cities" | Jun 03 14:51 |
techrights-bot | "I mentioned being young because there's a reason given that they want to go back to office because of career counseling blah blah." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 14:52 |
techrights-bot/fn | "I mentioned being young because there's a reason given that they want to go back to office because of career counseling blah blah." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 14:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 14:52 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 14:52 |
techrights-bot | #RHEL 8.4 Released – Download DVD ISO Images for Free http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151454#comment-29853 #ibm | Jun 03 14:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:55 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #RHEL 8.4 Released – Download DVD ISO Images for Free http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151454#comment-29853 #ibm | Jun 03 14:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:55 |
schestowitz/fn | UEFI: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/users-warned-against-upgrading-to-ubuntu-2104 | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | UEFI: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/users-warned-against-upgrading-to-ubuntu-2104 | Jun 03 14:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Users warned against upgrading to Ubuntu 21.04 | TechRadar | Jun 03 14:56 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Users warned against upgrading to Ubuntu 21.04 | TechRadar | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | So secure... that you cannot get the latest version | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz/fn | So secure... that you cannot get the latest version | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | stay with old and unpatched | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz/fn | stay with old and unpatched | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | so secure... that machines stop booting | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz/fn | so secure... that machines stop booting | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | mission-critical operations would LOVE that | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz/fn | mission-critical operations would LOVE that | Jun 03 14:56 |
MinceR | you're supposed to "upgrade" to Backdoors10 :> | Jun 03 14:56 |
MinceR/fn | you're supposed to "upgrade" to Backdoors10 :> | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | machines that are perfectly operational | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz/fn | machines that are perfectly operational | Jun 03 14:56 |
MinceR | just ask mjg's bosses | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | would not even boot | Jun 03 14:56 |
MinceR/fn | just ask mjg's bosses | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz/fn | would not even boot | Jun 03 14:56 |
schestowitz | Microsoft said "NO!" | Jun 03 14:57 |
schestowitz/fn | Microsoft said "NO!" | Jun 03 14:57 |
schestowitz | Microsoft NSA | Jun 03 14:57 |
schestowitz/fn | Microsoft NSA | Jun 03 14:57 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ | Jun 03 14:57 |
schestowitz/fn | http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ | Jun 03 14:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights | Jun 03 14:57 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights | Jun 03 14:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights | Jun 03 14:57 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights | Jun 03 14:57 |
techrights-bot | Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151895 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:58 |
techrights-bot/fn | Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151895 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 14:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 14:58 |
immibis | MinceR: it doesn't have to be "your" social circle, to be cancelling | Jun 03 14:59 |
immibis/fn | MinceR: it doesn't have to be "your" social circle, to be cancelling | Jun 03 14:59 |
MinceR | immibis: don't worry, he'll be able to get jobs trolling for microsoft and ibm even if he can't join TR channels | Jun 03 14:59 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: don't worry, he'll be able to get jobs trolling for microsoft and ibm even if he can't join TR channels | Jun 03 14:59 |
MinceR | for example, he's also active on famous bill gates fanboy site twitter | Jun 03 15:00 |
MinceR/fn | for example, he's also active on famous bill gates fanboy site twitter | Jun 03 15:00 |
immibis | schestowitz: sounds like a garden variety bootloader bug, no? | Jun 03 15:00 |
immibis/fn | schestowitz: sounds like a garden variety bootloader bug, no? | Jun 03 15:00 |
immibis | or bios bug | Jun 03 15:00 |
immibis/fn | or bios bug | Jun 03 15:00 |
techrights-bot | "Also new in Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 is Developer Toolset 10.1, which features GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) 10" but #redhat is also attacking the founder of GNU while hailing and licking the boots of #microsoft https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/03/red-hat-software-collections-37-and-red-hat-developer-toolset-101-now-generally | Jun 03 15:00 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Also new in Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 is Developer Toolset 10.1, which features GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) 10" but #redhat is also attacking the founder of GNU while hailing and licking the boots of #microsoft https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/03/red-hat-software-collections-37-and-red-hat-developer-toolset-101-now-generally | Jun 03 15:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 and Red Hat Developer Toolset 10.1 now generally available | Red Hat Developer | Jun 03 15:00 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | developers.redhat.com | Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 and Red Hat Developer Toolset 10.1 now generally available | Red Hat Developer | Jun 03 15:00 |
MinceR | the more complicated your firmware is, the more likely it is to be crippled by bugs | Jun 03 15:00 |
MinceR/fn | the more complicated your firmware is, the more likely it is to be crippled by bugs | Jun 03 15:00 |
MinceR | and uefi is probably the most complicated of them all | Jun 03 15:00 |
MinceR/fn | and uefi is probably the most complicated of them all | Jun 03 15:00 |
techrights-bot | "Open Neuroscience is heavily dependent on the availability of Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) tools that support the modern scientific process." https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/06/03/showcase-at-cns-2021.html | Jun 03 15:01 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Open Neuroscience is heavily dependent on the availability of Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) tools that support the modern scientific process." https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/06/03/showcase-at-cns-2021.html | Jun 03 15:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Showcase at CNS*2021 | NeuroFedora: Blog | Jun 03 15:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Showcase at CNS*2021 | NeuroFedora: Blog | Jun 03 15:01 |
techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat how calls people like it calls #clowncomputing (servers, "hybrid clown") https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/hybrid-work-how-prevent-turnover | Jun 03 15:02 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ibm #redhat how calls people like it calls #clowncomputing (servers, "hybrid clown") https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/hybrid-work-how-prevent-turnover | Jun 03 15:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work: How to prepare for the turnover tsunami | The Enterprisers Project | Jun 03 15:02 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work: How to prepare for the turnover tsunami | The Enterprisers Project | Jun 03 15:02 |
schestowitz | MinceR: it should boot | Jun 03 15:04 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: it should boot | Jun 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | even if in doubt | Jun 03 15:04 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] even if in doubt | Jun 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | the bigger security issue aren't bootkits | Jun 03 15:04 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] the bigger security issue aren't bootkits | Jun 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | but people who STILL uses WIndos | Jun 03 15:04 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] but people who STILL uses WIndos | Jun 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | despite knowing it's back-doored | Jun 03 15:04 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] despite knowing it's back-doored | Jun 03 15:04 |
MinceR | well, if they wanted it to boot, they shouldn't have let microsoft/intel people develop it | Jun 03 15:04 |
MinceR/fn | well, if they wanted it to boot, they shouldn't have let microsoft/intel people develop it | Jun 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | and then pipelines get shut down... | Jun 03 15:04 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] and then pipelines get shut down... | Jun 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | MinceR: Intel is a Red Hat partner | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: Intel is a Red Hat partner | Jun 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | so is Microsoft | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] so is Microsoft | Jun 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | it's an article I planned for today | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] it's an article I planned for today | Jun 03 15:05 |
MinceR | one big government-sponsored cartel | Jun 03 15:05 |
MinceR/fn | one big government-sponsored cartel | Jun 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | But I have severe networking issues | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] But I have severe networking issues | Jun 03 15:05 |
MinceR | "free market", my ass | Jun 03 15:05 |
MinceR/fn | "free market", my ass | Jun 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/survey-says-rhel-leads-microsoft-sql-server-linux-deployments | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/survey-says-rhel-leads-microsoft-sql-server-linux-deployments | Jun 03 15:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Survey says RHEL leads for Microsoft SQL Server on Linux deployments | Jun 03 15:05 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.redhat.com | Survey says RHEL leads for Microsoft SQL Server on Linux deployments | Jun 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | yesterday | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] yesterday | Jun 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | but RMS.... BAD | Jun 03 15:05 |
tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] but RMS.... BAD | Jun 03 15:05 |
*jessicara (~shirogits@unaffiliated/jessicara) has left #techrights | Jun 03 15:07 | |
*BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has left #techrights ("User left") | Jun 03 15:07 | |
MinceR | matrix strikes again? :> | Jun 03 15:07 |
MinceR/fn | matrix strikes again? :> | Jun 03 15:07 |
schestowitz | [15:07] <-- BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has left this channel ("User left"). | Jun 03 15:07 |
schestowitz/fn | [15:07] <-- BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has left this channel ("User left"). | Jun 03 15:07 |
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schestowitz | this is what matrix says ("use left") when BANNING people | Jun 03 15:08 |
schestowitz/fn | this is what matrix says ("use left") when BANNING people | Jun 03 15:08 |
schestowitz | but who knows... | Jun 03 15:08 |
schestowitz/fn | but who knows... | Jun 03 15:08 |
MinceR | indeed | Jun 03 15:08 |
MinceR/fn | indeed | Jun 03 15:08 |
schestowitz | Stalin: politician passed | Jun 03 15:08 |
schestowitz/fn | Stalin: politician passed | Jun 03 15:08 |
techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151896 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 15:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 15:09 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151896 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 15:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 15:09 |
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techrights-bot | Quarantina is a beautiful name for a girl. Born during lockdowns. Quarantine for a boy. Like Constantine... | Jun 03 15:10 |
techrights-bot/fn | Quarantina is a beautiful name for a girl. Born during lockdowns. Quarantine for a boy. Like Constantine... | Jun 03 15:10 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | It looks like someone canceled me again on matrix.org. | Jun 03 15:12 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | It looks like someone canceled me again on matrix.org. | Jun 03 15:12 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | Probably Garrett. Such an obnoxious little man. | Jun 03 15:13 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | Probably Garrett. Such an obnoxious little man. | Jun 03 15:13 |
MinceR | time to stop using matrix | Jun 03 15:13 |
MinceR/fn | time to stop using matrix | Jun 03 15:13 |
schestowitz | who uses matrix? matrix uses YOU! | Jun 03 15:14 |
schestowitz/fn | who uses matrix? matrix uses YOU! | Jun 03 15:14 |
schestowitz | society is such a lovely thing, is it not? people getting along so well with each other | Jun 03 15:14 |
schestowitz/fn | society is such a lovely thing, is it not? people getting along so well with each other | Jun 03 15:14 |
schestowitz | if only we could "cancel" 2 billion people... the "bad" ones... | Jun 03 15:14 |
schestowitz/fn | if only we could "cancel" 2 billion people... the "bad" ones... | Jun 03 15:14 |
MinceR | "Good thing I have Kevlar. ...Wait, do I have Kevlar?" | Jun 03 15:15 |
MinceR/fn | "Good thing I have Kevlar. ...Wait, do I have Kevlar?" | Jun 03 15:15 |
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techrights-bot | When MATRIX says "user left" it actually means "we BANNED someone". #censorship perfumed, not informing others of the true degree of #censorship that's going on within those "Open" systems.... | Jun 03 15:17 |
techrights-bot/fn | When MATRIX says "user left" it actually means "we BANNED someone". #censorship perfumed, not informing others of the true degree of #censorship that's going on within those "Open" systems.... | Jun 03 15:17 |
XRevan86 | VTimes, another Russian independent media, is closing too. | Jun 03 15:17 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] VTimes, another Russian independent media, is closing too. | Jun 03 15:17 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | mjg59_: Can really only manage to annoy me. | Jun 03 15:18 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | mjg59_: Can really only manage to annoy me. | Jun 03 15:18 |
MinceR | especially if you switch to a real IRC client | Jun 03 15:18 |
MinceR/fn | especially if you switch to a real IRC client | Jun 03 15:18 |
MinceR | his monopoly-loving friends can't reach you that way | Jun 03 15:18 |
MinceR/fn | his monopoly-loving friends can't reach you that way | Jun 03 15:18 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | It's really rather sad that this piece of shit has nothing better to do all day than to try to ban a chat account, when I'll just be right back anyway. | Jun 03 15:18 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | It's really rather sad that this piece of shit has nothing better to do all day than to try to ban a chat account, when I'll just be right back anyway. | Jun 03 15:18 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▅▄▂▅▁▄▅▅▁▅▅▄▅▄▅▂▃▆▄▆▇▂▃▄▅▄▅▆▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 21.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃█▂█▁▂█▁▂▂▃▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁█▄▂▂▂▂█▁▃▂▃▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 58.81▕ swarm size (avg): 237.34 ⟲ | Jun 03 15:18 |
techrights-ipfs/fn | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▅▄▂▅▁▄▅▅▁▅▅▄▅▄▅▂▃▆▄▆▇▂▃▄▅▄▅▆▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 21.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃█▂█▁▂█▁▂▂▃▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁█▄▂▂▂▂█▁▃▂▃▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 58.81▕ swarm size (avg): 237.34 ⟲ | Jun 03 15:18 |
techrights-bot | #Ubuntu Podcast from the UK LoCo: S14E13 – Wants Photo Booth https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/06/03/s14e13-wants-photo-booth/ #gnu #linux | Jun 03 15:20 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Ubuntu Podcast from the UK LoCo: S14E13 – Wants Photo Booth https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/06/03/s14e13-wants-photo-booth/ #gnu #linux | Jun 03 15:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntupodcast.org | S14E13 – Wants Photo Booth | Ubuntu Podcast | Jun 03 15:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | ubuntupodcast.org | S14E13 – Wants Photo Booth | Ubuntu Podcast | Jun 03 15:20 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | Maybe he can go live on the tranny farm in Colorado that NPR spoke of this morning, but he might break a nail if he attempts to fire a rifle. | Jun 03 15:20 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | Maybe he can go live on the tranny farm in Colorado that NPR spoke of this morning, but he might break a nail if he attempts to fire a rifle. | Jun 03 15:20 |
*XRevan86 doesn't understand half of the things baronhk is saying | Jun 03 15:20 | |
*tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] doesn't understand half of the things baronhk is saying | Jun 03 15:20 | |
BaronVladimirHa4 | It's becoming impossible to get actual news because it's been replaced by trans this and blacks that and it's easily 90% bullshit now simply to piss people off and distract them from real issues. | Jun 03 15:21 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | It's becoming impossible to get actual news because it's been replaced by trans this and blacks that and it's easily 90% bullshit now simply to piss people off and distract them from real issues. | Jun 03 15:21 |
schestowitz | can we keep on topic, please? | Jun 03 15:22 |
schestowitz/fn | can we keep on topic, please? | Jun 03 15:22 |
schestowitz | my connection on one machine keeps dropping... since midnight last ngiht | Jun 03 15:23 |
schestowitz/fn | my connection on one machine keeps dropping... since midnight last ngiht | Jun 03 15:23 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | I don't think that they realize that if they keep poking the bear that there's so much worse than Trump coming. | Jun 03 15:23 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | I don't think that they realize that if they keep poking the bear that there's so much worse than Trump coming. | Jun 03 15:23 |
schestowitz | never seen anything like it, cannot find an explanation | Jun 03 15:23 |
schestowitz/fn | never seen anything like it, cannot find an explanation | Jun 03 15:23 |
BaronVladimirHa4 | Also, is this thing actually federating properly now? | Jun 03 15:23 |
BaronVladimirHa4/fn | Also, is this thing actually federating properly now? | Jun 03 15:23 |
MinceR | we can see you writing, BaronVladimirHa4 | Jun 03 15:23 |
MinceR/fn | we can see you writing, BaronVladimirHa4 | Jun 03 15:23 |
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*schestowitz/fn heading to bed... it's all OT now anyway | Jun 03 15:24 | |
techrights-bot | New comment: "All #ibm products are old tech or started there. Ibm can't compete in new markets" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies IBM is dying; it wants us to think #patents and #swpats #lobbying will save IBM. Instead it ALIENATES us. | Jun 03 15:25 |
techrights-bot/fn | New comment: "All #ibm products are old tech or started there. Ibm can't compete in new markets" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies IBM is dying; it wants us to think #patents and #swpats #lobbying will save IBM. Instead it ALIENATES us. | Jun 03 15:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 15:25 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 15:25 |
MinceR | can they just hurry up and die already? | Jun 03 15:26 |
MinceR/fn | can they just hurry up and die already? | Jun 03 15:26 |
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immibis | BaronVladimirHa4: was that a direct threat of "annoy us and we'll shoot you"? | Jun 03 15:38 |
immibis/fn | BaronVladimirHa4: was that a direct threat of "annoy us and we'll shoot you"? | Jun 03 15:38 |
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DaemonFC | Okay, at least now they can't block me from Freenode every time someone needs their hormones adjusted. | Jun 03 15:41 |
DaemonFC/fn | Okay, at least now they can't block me from Freenode every time someone needs their hormones adjusted. | Jun 03 15:41 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 03 15:41 |
MinceR/fn | :> | Jun 03 15:41 |
MinceR | i don't think it's a hormone problem | Jun 03 15:41 |
MinceR/fn | i don't think it's a hormone problem | Jun 03 15:41 |
MinceR | i think it's an authoritarianism problem | Jun 03 15:42 |
MinceR/fn | i think it's an authoritarianism problem | Jun 03 15:42 |
MinceR | mjg wants us all to be slaves to asatya nadella, and we don't want to be slaves | Jun 03 15:42 |
MinceR/fn | mjg wants us all to be slaves to asatya nadella, and we don't want to be slaves | Jun 03 15:42 |
immibis | whotf is asatya nadella | Jun 03 15:42 |
immibis/fn | whotf is asatya nadella | Jun 03 15:42 |
MinceR | current figurehead of the redmond mafia | Jun 03 15:42 |
MinceR/fn | current figurehead of the redmond mafia | Jun 03 15:42 |
immibis | oh microsoft | Jun 03 15:43 |
immibis/fn | oh microsoft | Jun 03 15:43 |
immibis | just don't use their software then | Jun 03 15:43 |
immibis/fn | just don't use their software then | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR | just don't buy UEFI PCs | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR/fn | just don't buy UEFI PCs | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR | just don't buy computers | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR/fn | just don't buy computers | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR | just don't use computers | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR/fn | just don't use computers | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR | just don't live | Jun 03 15:43 |
MinceR/fn | just don't live | Jun 03 15:43 |
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superkuh | I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off nvme without being in UEFI mode. | Jun 03 15:50 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off nvme without being in UEFI mode. | Jun 03 15:50 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/4fc0cfb4ac2f1252.png | Jun 03 15:57 |
MinceR/fn | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/4fc0cfb4ac2f1252.png | Jun 03 15:57 |
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psydroid | there is no need to be upset | Jun 03 16:11 |
psydroid/fn | there is no need to be upset | Jun 03 16:11 |
psydroid | we just need to go with the flow | Jun 03 16:11 |
psydroid/fn | we just need to go with the flow | Jun 03 16:11 |
psydroid | towards hardware and software freedom | Jun 03 16:12 |
psydroid/fn | towards hardware and software freedom | Jun 03 16:12 |
immibis | ah yes we must stick with outdated technologies because freedom or something. | Jun 03 16:15 |
immibis/fn | ah yes we must stick with outdated technologies because freedom or something. | Jun 03 16:15 |
CrystalMath | immibis: or just because they're cool | Jun 03 16:16 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: or just because they're cool | Jun 03 16:16 |
CrystalMath | i love my cassette deck :) | Jun 03 16:16 |
CrystalMath/fn | i love my cassette deck :) | Jun 03 16:16 |
immibis | imagine being told to never buy a CD because it's anti-freedom | Jun 03 16:16 |
immibis/fn | imagine being told to never buy a CD because it's anti-freedom | Jun 03 16:16 |
CrystalMath | well there are CDs that contain viruses from Sony BMG | Jun 03 16:16 |
CrystalMath/fn | well there are CDs that contain viruses from Sony BMG | Jun 03 16:16 |
baronhk1[m] | The reason the CD held on for so long is because newer formats had DRM. | Jun 03 16:17 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The reason the CD held on for so long is because newer formats had DRM. | Jun 03 16:17 |
immibis | only if you run the virus. that's more of a windows thing | Jun 03 16:17 |
immibis/fn | only if you run the virus. that's more of a windows thing | Jun 03 16:17 |
baronhk1[m] | People found out they couldn't rip the newer formats and didn't buy them. | Jun 03 16:17 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | People found out they couldn't rip the newer formats and didn't buy them. | Jun 03 16:17 |
MinceR | that's not the way the flow is going | Jun 03 16:17 |
MinceR/fn | that's not the way the flow is going | Jun 03 16:17 |
immibis | don't buy shit with DRM then. but we are not talking about DRM here. just plain old bugs | Jun 03 16:17 |
immibis/fn | don't buy shit with DRM then. but we are not talking about DRM here. just plain old bugs | Jun 03 16:17 |
CrystalMath | immibis: then i have no problem with CDs | Jun 03 16:17 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: then i have no problem with CDs | Jun 03 16:17 |
baronhk1[m] | uEFI doesn't seem to improve the reliability of the PC. | Jun 03 16:18 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | uEFI doesn't seem to improve the reliability of the PC. | Jun 03 16:18 |
MinceR | "a few years ago i had no idea what an init system was, but now you've all got to replace yours with systemd because everything else is outdated!" | Jun 03 16:18 |
MinceR/fn | "a few years ago i had no idea what an init system was, but now you've all got to replace yours with systemd because everything else is outdated!" | Jun 03 16:18 |
baronhk1[m] | In fact, I don't think I recall any BIOS systems with this many problems, even if they did have bugs. | Jun 03 16:18 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | In fact, I don't think I recall any BIOS systems with this many problems, even if they did have bugs. | Jun 03 16:18 |
MinceR | Restricted Boot is not a "plain old bug", it's microshit's effort to become the gatekeeper of the PC OS market | Jun 03 16:18 |
MinceR/fn | Restricted Boot is not a "plain old bug", it's microshit's effort to become the gatekeeper of the PC OS market | Jun 03 16:18 |
baronhk1[m] | The bugs were usually in extensions to BIOS that Microsoft added and didn't write very good specs for. | Jun 03 16:18 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The bugs were usually in extensions to BIOS that Microsoft added and didn't write very good specs for. | Jun 03 16:18 |
psydroid | all my systems with UEFI are laptops | Jun 03 16:19 |
psydroid/fn | all my systems with UEFI are laptops | Jun 03 16:19 |
psydroid | I hope by the time they start dying one by one non-x86 alternatives without UEFI will be ubiquitous | Jun 03 16:19 |
psydroid/fn | I hope by the time they start dying one by one non-x86 alternatives without UEFI will be ubiquitous | Jun 03 16:19 |
immibis | baronhk1[m]: If you've ever tried writing a bootloader or OS kernel you will know the BIOS interface is crammed full of legacy garbage. | Jun 03 16:20 |
immibis/fn | baronhk1[m]: If you've ever tried writing a bootloader or OS kernel you will know the BIOS interface is crammed full of legacy garbage. | Jun 03 16:20 |
immibis | your bootloader is one sector from a disk that gets run in 16-bit real mode. what is this, 1980? | Jun 03 16:20 |
immibis/fn | your bootloader is one sector from a disk that gets run in 16-bit real mode. what is this, 1980? | Jun 03 16:20 |
baronhk1[m] | While uEFI is crammed with stuff that can kill the entire computer if the OS uses it as documented. | Jun 03 16:21 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | While uEFI is crammed with stuff that can kill the entire computer if the OS uses it as documented. | Jun 03 16:21 |
immibis | can't the OS already kill the entire computer by using stuff as documented? | Jun 03 16:21 |
immibis/fn | can't the OS already kill the entire computer by using stuff as documented? | Jun 03 16:21 |
immibis | like, you start writing to the BIOS flash chip, then you write a stream of 0 bytes. Computer killed | Jun 03 16:21 |
immibis/fn | like, you start writing to the BIOS flash chip, then you write a stream of 0 bytes. Computer killed | Jun 03 16:21 |
MinceR | yay, UEFI is garbage that is not "legacy"! | Jun 03 16:21 |
MinceR/fn | yay, UEFI is garbage that is not "legacy"! | Jun 03 16:21 |
CrystalMath | immibis: i've written TONS of BIOS bootloaders, and i don't consider any of that stuff "legacy garbage" | Jun 03 16:21 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: i've written TONS of BIOS bootloaders, and i don't consider any of that stuff "legacy garbage" | Jun 03 16:21 |
MinceR | what does that mean? | Jun 03 16:21 |
MinceR/fn | what does that mean? | Jun 03 16:21 |
baronhk1[m] | Many boards had a dual BIOS configuration. | Jun 03 16:22 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Many boards had a dual BIOS configuration. | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR | it means, that people like mjg like it | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR/fn | it means, that people like mjg like it | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis | MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis/fn | MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR | who the fuck cares what they like? | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR/fn | who the fuck cares what they like? | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR | immibis: so? | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: so? | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis | MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis/fn | MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. | Jun 03 16:22 |
baronhk1[m] | If the system couldn't boot, it switched over to the backup and the backup reflashed the primary, or failing that, just became read-only. | Jun 03 16:22 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | If the system couldn't boot, it switched over to the backup and the backup reflashed the primary, or failing that, just became read-only. | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath | immibis: i've written lots of code in 16-bit real mode | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: i've written lots of code in 16-bit real mode | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR | immibis: it. works. | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis | the whole real mode is legacy garbage | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: it. works. | Jun 03 16:22 |
baronhk1[m] | But you could boot the computer. | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis/fn | the whole real mode is legacy garbage | Jun 03 16:22 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | But you could boot the computer. | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR | immibis: uefi. does. not. | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: uefi. does. not. | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath | immibis: the CPU starts in that mode, ALWAYS | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: the CPU starts in that mode, ALWAYS | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis | CrystalMath: yes because it's legacy garbage | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: yes because it's legacy garbage | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath | even your Ryzen | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | even your Ryzen | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath | and every core you IPI | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | and every core you IPI | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis | AMD or Intel would love to rip out that useless circuitry from their CPUs, but they can't because of BIOS | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath | starts in that mode | Jun 03 16:22 |
immibis/fn | AMD or Intel would love to rip out that useless circuitry from their CPUs, but they can't because of BIOS | Jun 03 16:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | starts in that mode | Jun 03 16:22 |
MinceR | then x86 is "legacy", not the lack of control by microshit | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR/fn | then x86 is "legacy", not the lack of control by microshit | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath | immibis: FALSE | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: FALSE | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath | immibis: the biggest part of that circuitry is still usable in 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: the biggest part of that circuitry is still usable in 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 16:23 |
baronhk1[m] | uEFI validates that the OEM signs off on the new firmware, ensuring that it's very difficult to replace it with Coreboot or unlock features the OEM hid from you and reflash it. | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath | because the big part is 16-bit addressing | Jun 03 16:23 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | uEFI validates that the OEM signs off on the new firmware, ensuring that it's very difficult to replace it with Coreboot or unlock features the OEM hid from you and reflash it. | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | because the big part is 16-bit addressing | Jun 03 16:23 |
immibis | MinceR: yes, x86 is full of legacy garbage, so let's rip out the garbage when possible | Jun 03 16:23 |
immibis/fn | MinceR: yes, x86 is full of legacy garbage, so let's rip out the garbage when possible | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR | immibis: they don't ship those CPUs with non-uefi bios | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: they don't ship those CPUs with non-uefi bios | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR | immibis: intel even announced they're killing CSM in 2020 | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: intel even announced they're killing CSM in 2020 | Jun 03 16:23 |
immibis | MinceR: the UEFI has a bios compatibility mode | Jun 03 16:23 |
immibis/fn | MinceR: the UEFI has a bios compatibility mode | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath | immibis: you can still do 16-bit addressing on 64-bit long mode using the ADSIZE prefix | Jun 03 16:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: you can still do 16-bit addressing on 64-bit long mode using the ADSIZE prefix | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR/fn | yeah, but it's still bloated | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR | yeah, but it's still bloated | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR | it would be better to use boot firmware that is smaller than Linux | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR/fn | it would be better to use boot firmware that is smaller than Linux | Jun 03 16:23 |
immibis | maybe it would be less bloated without being full of legacy garbage | Jun 03 16:23 |
immibis/fn | maybe it would be less bloated without being full of legacy garbage | Jun 03 16:23 |
MinceR | not significantly | Jun 03 16:24 |
MinceR/fn | not significantly | Jun 03 16:24 |
MinceR | it would be a lot less bloated without microshit's legacy bullshit and vendor lock-in | Jun 03 16:24 |
MinceR/fn | it would be a lot less bloated without microshit's legacy bullshit and vendor lock-in | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath | immibis: amd64 requires by spec most of that 16-bit stuff | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: amd64 requires by spec most of that 16-bit stuff | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath | so removing it is futile | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | so removing it is futile | Jun 03 16:24 |
immibis | CrystalMath: your point? You can't get back from 64-bit mode to 16-bit mode AFAIK. So they can remove it if people only run 64-bit OSes and 32/64-bit bootloaders | Jun 03 16:24 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: your point? You can't get back from 64-bit mode to 16-bit mode AFAIK. So they can remove it if people only run 64-bit OSes and 32/64-bit bootloaders | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath | basically CPUs emulate it in microcode today | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | basically CPUs emulate it in microcode today | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath | immibis: FALSE, you can | Jun 03 16:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: FALSE, you can | Jun 03 16:24 |
MinceR | they'll just violate the spec to microsoft's benefit | Jun 03 16:25 |
MinceR/fn | they'll just violate the spec to microsoft's benefit | Jun 03 16:25 |
CrystalMath | there is a documented procedure | Jun 03 16:25 |
CrystalMath/fn | there is a documented procedure | Jun 03 16:25 |
MinceR | business as usual | Jun 03 16:25 |
immibis | how do you get from 64-bit to 16-bit mode? I was informed you couldn't | Jun 03 16:25 |
MinceR/fn | business as usual | Jun 03 16:25 |
immibis/fn | how do you get from 64-bit to 16-bit mode? I was informed you couldn't | Jun 03 16:25 |
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CrystalMath | immibis: well you were informed wrong, the procedure is to first go to 16-bit compatibility mode, jump to an identity-paged address, disable paging, disable protected mode, and voila | Jun 03 16:25 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: well you were informed wrong, the procedure is to first go to 16-bit compatibility mode, jump to an identity-paged address, disable paging, disable protected mode, and voila | Jun 03 16:25 |
CrystalMath | it's in the intel manual | Jun 03 16:25 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's in the intel manual | Jun 03 16:25 |
CrystalMath | 16-bit "compatibility" mode as in long mode with a 16-bit segment selector | Jun 03 16:26 |
CrystalMath/fn | 16-bit "compatibility" mode as in long mode with a 16-bit segment selector | Jun 03 16:26 |
CrystalMath | this is like 16-bit protected mode | Jun 03 16:26 |
CrystalMath/fn | this is like 16-bit protected mode | Jun 03 16:26 |
immibis | ah, more legacy garbage they wish they could rip out. Emulators are fast now, just run in dosbox | Jun 03 16:26 |
immibis/fn | ah, more legacy garbage they wish they could rip out. Emulators are fast now, just run in dosbox | Jun 03 16:26 |
CrystalMath | immibis: this isn't suitable for emulation, as you have to tear down everything to go back to 16-bit real mode | Jun 03 16:26 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: this isn't suitable for emulation, as you have to tear down everything to go back to 16-bit real mode | Jun 03 16:26 |
immibis | apple didn't force an x86 compatibility mode into their arm chips | Jun 03 16:26 |
immibis/fn | apple didn't force an x86 compatibility mode into their arm chips | Jun 03 16:26 |
CrystalMath | the OS cannot have control anymore over the 16-bit code | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | the OS cannot have control anymore over the 16-bit code | Jun 03 16:27 |
immibis | CrystalMath: yes. exactly. if you want to run 16-bit code, use emulation instead. | Jun 03 16:27 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: yes. exactly. if you want to run 16-bit code, use emulation instead. | Jun 03 16:27 |
immibis | and if you are using emulation instead, the CPU oesn't need this mode | Jun 03 16:27 |
immibis/fn | and if you are using emulation instead, the CPU oesn't need this mode | Jun 03 16:27 |
MinceR | crApple didn't even implement the ARM spec correctly in the M1 | Jun 03 16:27 |
MinceR/fn | crApple didn't even implement the ARM spec correctly in the M1 | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath | immibis: but still, it is possible, and it's by spec | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: but still, it is possible, and it's by spec | Jun 03 16:27 |
MinceR | but hey, they can still put a logo on the box so it's fully functional | Jun 03 16:27 |
MinceR/fn | but hey, they can still put a logo on the box so it's fully functional | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath | compatibility mode is mostly used for running 32-bit software | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | compatibility mode is mostly used for running 32-bit software | Jun 03 16:27 |
immibis | well obviously it won't be in the next spec. Are you aware things change with time? | Jun 03 16:27 |
immibis/fn | well obviously it won't be in the next spec. Are you aware things change with time? | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath | immibis: it's not gonna help, because they must still keep the addressing | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: it's not gonna help, because they must still keep the addressing | Jun 03 16:27 |
MinceR | immibis: are you aware things can change for the worse? | Jun 03 16:27 |
MinceR/fn | immibis: are you aware things can change for the worse? | Jun 03 16:27 |
CrystalMath | immibis: even in 64-bit long mode, the biggest part of that microcode for compatibility is used | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: even in 64-bit long mode, the biggest part of that microcode for compatibility is used | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath | so it's no use | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | so it's no use | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath | you do realize that 32-bit instructions are used as is in 64-bit long mode? | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | you do realize that 32-bit instructions are used as is in 64-bit long mode? | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath | they're even DEFAULT | Jun 03 16:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | they're even DEFAULT | Jun 03 16:28 |
immibis | we're talking about 16-bit mode, you moron | Jun 03 16:28 |
immibis/fn | we're talking about 16-bit mode, you moron | Jun 03 16:28 |
immibis | literally nobody suggested removing 32-bit mode yet | Jun 03 16:29 |
immibis/fn | literally nobody suggested removing 32-bit mode yet | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | that's just a single bit | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | that's just a single bit | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | yeah but you have to remove both | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | yeah but you have to remove both | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | or none | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | or none | Jun 03 16:29 |
immibis | Because...? | Jun 03 16:29 |
immibis/fn | Because...? | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | because if you keep compatibility mode | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | because if you keep compatibility mode | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | you have ADSIZE and OPSIZE that must work for programs | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | you have ADSIZE and OPSIZE that must work for programs | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | and then you have to keep 16-bit addressing | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | and then you have to keep 16-bit addressing | Jun 03 16:29 |
immibis | the CPU can't tell the difference between 16-bit mode and 32-bit mode? | Jun 03 16:29 |
immibis/fn | the CPU can't tell the difference between 16-bit mode and 32-bit mode? | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | [bx + si] and whatnot | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | [bx + si] and whatnot | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | the difference is super thin | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | the difference is super thin | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | because you can use both in both | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | because you can use both in both | Jun 03 16:29 |
CrystalMath | and mix | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | and mix | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath | with ADSIZE/OPSIZE | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | with ADSIZE/OPSIZE | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath | and programs do that | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | and programs do that | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath | note that this is not real mode but 16-bit protected mode | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | note that this is not real mode but 16-bit protected mode | Jun 03 16:30 |
immibis | Aren't instructions encoded differently in 16-bit mode? I know with 32-bit they added a bunch more addressing modes, what occupies those slots in the 16-bit encoding? | Jun 03 16:30 |
immibis/fn | Aren't instructions encoded differently in 16-bit mode? I know with 32-bit they added a bunch more addressing modes, what occupies those slots in the 16-bit encoding? | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath | well if you do a 16-bit addressing, it's totally different, however you can it in any mode | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | well if you do a 16-bit addressing, it's totally different, however you can it in any mode | Jun 03 16:30 |
CrystalMath | like, 0 is [bx + si], 1 is [bx + di], | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | like, 0 is [bx + si], 1 is [bx + di], | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath | while in 32-bit, 0 is [eax], 1 is [ecx] | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | while in 32-bit, 0 is [eax], 1 is [ecx] | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath | etc.. | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | etc.. | Jun 03 16:31 |
immibis | I thought the prefixes changed the sizes of registers you're using, but not the actual instruction encoding | Jun 03 16:31 |
immibis/fn | I thought the prefixes changed the sizes of registers you're using, but not the actual instruction encoding | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath | but you can do [bx + si] in 32-bit | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | but you can do [bx + si] in 32-bit | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath | it's not that different... 16-bit is just a default size | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's not that different... 16-bit is just a default size | Jun 03 16:31 |
immibis | is [bx+si] different f rom [ebx+esi] apart from the prefix? | Jun 03 16:31 |
immibis/fn | is [bx+si] different f rom [ebx+esi] apart from the prefix? | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath | very | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | very | Jun 03 16:31 |
CrystalMath | [bx + si] is the same as [eax] without the default-toggle prefix (ADSIZE) | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | [bx + si] is the same as [eax] without the default-toggle prefix (ADSIZE) | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis | ok | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis/fn | ok | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath | [ebx + esi] uses the SIB and requires 32-bit | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | [ebx + esi] uses the SIB and requires 32-bit | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis | then how about 16-bit interrupt handling? | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis/fn | then how about 16-bit interrupt handling? | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath | it's the same | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's the same | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath | in protected mode | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | in protected mode | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath | in real mode it's different | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | in real mode it's different | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis | real mode interrupt handling, then | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis/fn | real mode interrupt handling, then | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis | can real mode be eradicated? | Jun 03 16:32 |
immibis/fn | can real mode be eradicated? | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath | you don't gain anything because real mode is just 0.0001% of the microcode | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | you don't gain anything because real mode is just 0.0001% of the microcode | Jun 03 16:32 |
CrystalMath | the big part is 16-bit addressing | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath/fn | the big part is 16-bit addressing | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath | which is a monstrosity | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath/fn | which is a monstrosity | Jun 03 16:33 |
immibis | i'm sure it imposes annoying constraints on the overall design | Jun 03 16:33 |
immibis/fn | i'm sure it imposes annoying constraints on the overall design | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath | it doesn't really, it's just a bypass for checks | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath/fn | it doesn't really, it's just a bypass for checks | Jun 03 16:33 |
immibis | they eradicated the A20 gate IIRC | Jun 03 16:33 |
immibis/fn | they eradicated the A20 gate IIRC | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath | yeah, that was pointless | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath/fn | yeah, that was pointless | Jun 03 16:33 |
MinceR | they had to, iirc | Jun 03 16:33 |
MinceR/fn | they had to, iirc | Jun 03 16:33 |
CrystalMath | A20 was a kludge | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath/fn | A20 was a kludge | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath | and it was outside the CPU | Jun 03 16:34 |
MinceR | for superscalar or something like that | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath/fn | and it was outside the CPU | Jun 03 16:34 |
MinceR/fn | for superscalar or something like that | Jun 03 16:34 |
immibis | A20 was inside the CPU since the CPU had a cache in it | Jun 03 16:34 |
immibis/fn | A20 was inside the CPU since the CPU had a cache in it | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath | originally it was outside | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath/fn | originally it was outside | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath | it's a horrible kludge :P | Jun 03 16:34 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's a horrible kludge :P | Jun 03 16:34 |
XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/Cri7jqwRRBM | Jun 03 16:34 |
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CrystalMath | let's disable address 20 so that we can jump to an address so high it will wrap around and manage to call the CP/M supervisor | Jun 03 16:35 |
CrystalMath/fn | let's disable address 20 so that we can jump to an address so high it will wrap around and manage to call the CP/M supervisor | Jun 03 16:35 |
CrystalMath | brilliant :P | Jun 03 16:35 |
CrystalMath/fn | brilliant :P | Jun 03 16:35 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 03 16:35 |
MinceR/fn | :> | Jun 03 16:35 |
MinceR | i thought the point was to be able to access more RAM | Jun 03 16:36 |
MinceR/fn | i thought the point was to be able to access more RAM | Jun 03 16:36 |
CrystalMath | the big problem with that BIOS is that it has to run in v86 mode, which really sucks | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath/fn | the big problem with that BIOS is that it has to run in v86 mode, which really sucks | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath | v86 mode is not available from 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath/fn | v86 mode is not available from 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath | and that's what immibis probably heard but misunderstood | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath/fn | and that's what immibis probably heard but misunderstood | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath | v86 is basically a builtin emulator for the 8086 that the 386 had | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath/fn | v86 is basically a builtin emulator for the 8086 that the 386 had | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath | so that you can do both at the same time | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath/fn | so that you can do both at the same time | Jun 03 16:37 |
CrystalMath | this is not really possible on intel's implementation of amd64 | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath/fn | this is not really possible on intel's implementation of amd64 | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath | but it is if you fully go 32-bit protected and disable long mode | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath/fn | but it is if you fully go 32-bit protected and disable long mode | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath | and the BIOS is expected to run in it, which means... it can't have ANY 32-bit code | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath/fn | and the BIOS is expected to run in it, which means... it can't have ANY 32-bit code | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath | and that's a pain | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath/fn | and that's a pain | Jun 03 16:38 |
CrystalMath | UEFI solves that, i'll admit that much :) | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath/fn | UEFI solves that, i'll admit that much :) | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath | although even the BIOS near the end had calls that give you a far pointer to call in 32-bit protected mode | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath/fn | although even the BIOS near the end had calls that give you a far pointer to call in 32-bit protected mode | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath | but they couldn't change any of the existing calls that had to be able to run in v86 for compatibility | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath/fn | but they couldn't change any of the existing calls that had to be able to run in v86 for compatibility | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath | mostly windows | Jun 03 16:39 |
CrystalMath/fn | mostly windows | Jun 03 16:39 |
immibis | so can v86 mode be eradicated then? Just use an emulator | Jun 03 16:39 |
immibis/fn | so can v86 mode be eradicated then? Just use an emulator | Jun 03 16:39 |
immibis | if we say you must have a 64-bit OS | Jun 03 16:40 |
immibis/fn | if we say you must have a 64-bit OS | Jun 03 16:40 |
CrystalMath | immibis: if you disable 32-bit compatibility mode you gain that, but you still have to keep 16-bit addressing, which makes the benefit minimal | Jun 03 16:40 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: if you disable 32-bit compatibility mode you gain that, but you still have to keep 16-bit addressing, which makes the benefit minimal | Jun 03 16:40 |
CrystalMath | i mean what you gain is more code that blocks you from entering that mode | Jun 03 16:41 |
CrystalMath/fn | i mean what you gain is more code that blocks you from entering that mode | Jun 03 16:41 |
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CrystalMath | that doesn't help with anything | Jun 03 16:41 |
CrystalMath/fn | that doesn't help with anything | Jun 03 16:41 |
immibis | (you already have all that code for all the other unused mode bits) | Jun 03 16:41 |
immibis/fn | (you already have all that code for all the other unused mode bits) | Jun 03 16:41 |
CrystalMath | 16-bit addressing isn't unused even in 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 16:41 |
CrystalMath/fn | 16-bit addressing isn't unused even in 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 16:41 |
CrystalMath | because as you might now, the *default* address size is 32-bit and ADSIZE still exists | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath/fn | because as you might now, the *default* address size is 32-bit and ADSIZE still exists | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath | you have to use REX to get a 64-bit address | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath/fn | you have to use REX to get a 64-bit address | Jun 03 16:42 |
immibis | it doesn't use segment+prefix, I hope? | Jun 03 16:42 |
immibis/fn | it doesn't use segment+prefix, I hope? | Jun 03 16:42 |
immibis | er segment+offset | Jun 03 16:42 |
immibis/fn | er segment+offset | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath | long mode requires segments but their base is required to be 0 in 64-bit mode | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath/fn | long mode requires segments but their base is required to be 0 in 64-bit mode | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath | it can be non-zero in compatibility modes | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath/fn | it can be non-zero in compatibility modes | Jun 03 16:42 |
CrystalMath | segments are still used for permissions | Jun 03 16:43 |
CrystalMath/fn | segments are still used for permissions | Jun 03 16:43 |
CrystalMath | and all those base / limit bits can be in the future used for some extra settings | Jun 03 16:43 |
CrystalMath/fn | and all those base / limit bits can be in the future used for some extra settings | Jun 03 16:43 |
CrystalMath | immibis: let me explain: for 32-bit compatibility at all you need segment.base + offset, and then in real mode all that's different is loading a segment, which does segment.base = selector << 4 | Jun 03 16:44 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: let me explain: for 32-bit compatibility at all you need segment.base + offset, and then in real mode all that's different is loading a segment, which does segment.base = selector << 4 | Jun 03 16:44 |
MinceR | UEFI also solves you not using microshit's shitty formats | Jun 03 16:44 |
MinceR/fn | UEFI also solves you not using microshit's shitty formats | Jun 03 16:44 |
MinceR | FAT and PE too crap to be used for real work? no problem, we'll just hardwire them into the boot firmware so you'll have to use them anyway! | Jun 03 16:45 |
MinceR/fn | FAT and PE too crap to be used for real work? no problem, we'll just hardwire them into the boot firmware so you'll have to use them anyway! | Jun 03 16:45 |
MinceR | "just don't use their software then" | Jun 03 16:45 |
MinceR/fn | "just don't use their software then" | Jun 03 16:45 |
MinceR | what a load of bullshit | Jun 03 16:45 |
MinceR/fn | what a load of bullshit | Jun 03 16:45 |
CrystalMath | immibis: loading a segment for protected mode is HUGE code, for example, it's complicated as hell | Jun 03 16:45 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: loading a segment for protected mode is HUGE code, for example, it's complicated as hell | Jun 03 16:45 |
CrystalMath | the real mode code is that small diversion that JUST does segment.base = selector << 4 | Jun 03 16:46 |
CrystalMath/fn | the real mode code is that small diversion that JUST does segment.base = selector << 4 | Jun 03 16:46 |
MinceR | and then mjg tries to force Linux to also support a PE header on their keys to appease microshit | Jun 03 16:46 |
MinceR/fn | and then mjg tries to force Linux to also support a PE header on their keys to appease microshit | Jun 03 16:46 |
CrystalMath | that's all | Jun 03 16:46 |
CrystalMath/fn | that's all | Jun 03 16:46 |
CrystalMath | well on one hand at least he didn't try to pretend secure boot isn't evil | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath/fn | well on one hand at least he didn't try to pretend secure boot isn't evil | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath/fn | like Linus did, "oh no problem we'll just allow that, it's normal for our system" | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath | like Linus did, "oh no problem we'll just allow that, it's normal for our system" | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath | the thing is, microsoft isn't normal | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath/fn | the thing is, microsoft isn't normal | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath | they're absolutely evil | Jun 03 16:48 |
CrystalMath/fn | they're absolutely evil | Jun 03 16:48 |
MinceR | indeed | Jun 03 16:49 |
MinceR/fn | indeed | Jun 03 16:49 |
immibis | CrystalMath: since no OS really uses segmentation anyway (except in the limited way long mode allows because that's what OSes were using), they could rip it out of protected mode too, and replace it with the long mode system but 32-bit | Jun 03 16:51 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: since no OS really uses segmentation anyway (except in the limited way long mode allows because that's what OSes were using), they could rip it out of protected mode too, and replace it with the long mode system but 32-bit | Jun 03 16:51 |
CrystalMath | immibis: 32-bit compatibility mode, you mean? | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: 32-bit compatibility mode, you mean? | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath | that is basically 99.999% of protected mode | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath/fn | that is basically 99.999% of protected mode | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath | you gain nothing | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath/fn | you gain nothing | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath | also, it can STILL be 16-bit :P | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath/fn | also, it can STILL be 16-bit :P | Jun 03 17:02 |
MinceR | i'm pretty sure there are OSes that still support 32bit protected mode | Jun 03 17:02 |
MinceR/fn | i'm pretty sure there are OSes that still support 32bit protected mode | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath | because you keep all of 16-bit | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath/fn | because you keep all of 16-bit | Jun 03 17:02 |
MinceR | (i.e. not long mode) | Jun 03 17:02 |
MinceR/fn | (i.e. not long mode) | Jun 03 17:02 |
CrystalMath | for 32-bit compatibility you need a long mode kernel | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath/fn | for 32-bit compatibility you need a long mode kernel | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath | privileged instructions become 64-bit | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath/fn | privileged instructions become 64-bit | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath | immibis: also 32-bit windows uses segmentation a lot | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: also 32-bit windows uses segmentation a lot | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath | there's even a kludge in long mode made to allow precisely that :P | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath/fn | there's even a kludge in long mode made to allow precisely that :P | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath | in a special MSR | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath/fn | in a special MSR | Jun 03 17:03 |
CrystalMath | MSR_FS_BASE | Jun 03 17:04 |
CrystalMath/fn | MSR_FS_BASE | Jun 03 17:04 |
CrystalMath | this is basically on-die windows support :P | Jun 03 17:04 |
CrystalMath/fn | this is basically on-die windows support :P | Jun 03 17:04 |
CrystalMath | sorry, to be more precise, i mean for "32-bit compatibility mode you need a long mode kernel" | Jun 03 17:05 |
CrystalMath/fn | sorry, to be more precise, i mean for "32-bit compatibility mode you need a long mode kernel" | Jun 03 17:05 |
MinceR | my X60s couldn't run in long mode if it wanted | Jun 03 17:06 |
MinceR/fn | my X60s couldn't run in long mode if it wanted | Jun 03 17:06 |
MinceR | yet it runs OpenBSD fine | Jun 03 17:06 |
MinceR/fn | yet it runs OpenBSD fine | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath | heh | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | heh | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath | yeah, i mean there's that too | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | yeah, i mean there's that too | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath | the fact is, though, that amd64 was not built to get rid of legacy baggage - it was built to KEEP IT ALL | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | the fact is, though, that amd64 was not built to get rid of legacy baggage - it was built to KEEP IT ALL | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath | it was designed that way | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | it was designed that way | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath | it's by-design | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's by-design | Jun 03 17:06 |
CrystalMath | a simple extension to x86 | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath/fn | a simple extension to x86 | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath | not a replacement | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath/fn | not a replacement | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath | ia64 was a replacement, and it didn't survive | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath/fn | ia64 was a replacement, and it didn't survive | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis | CrystalMath: yes that's the system used in long mode, FS and IIRC GS are just additional registers you can add onto an address | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: yes that's the system used in long mode, FS and IIRC GS are just additional registers you can add onto an address | Jun 03 17:07 |
MinceR | intel pretty much sabotaged IA64 | Jun 03 17:07 |
MinceR/fn | intel pretty much sabotaged IA64 | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis | there is no longer any need to look up a segment descriptor and stuff | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis/fn | there is no longer any need to look up a segment descriptor and stuff | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath | immibis: there is for 32-bit compatibility mode | Jun 03 17:07 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: there is for 32-bit compatibility mode | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis | they are just offsets. 64-bit OSes can use that in 32-bit mode too | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis/fn | they are just offsets. 64-bit OSes can use that in 32-bit mode too | Jun 03 17:07 |
MinceR | i guess the corporation bill gates named after his prick didn't want to port everything to IA64 | Jun 03 17:07 |
MinceR/fn | i guess the corporation bill gates named after his prick didn't want to port everything to IA64 | Jun 03 17:07 |
immibis | IF, the actual segmentation system in 32-bit mode, was replaced with that | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis/fn | IF, the actual segmentation system in 32-bit mode, was replaced with that | Jun 03 17:08 |
CrystalMath | immibis: which is required to run 32-bit programs | Jun 03 17:08 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: which is required to run 32-bit programs | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis | CrystalMath: yes i'm saying they could rip out segmentation and put in FS and GS as offset registers | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: yes i'm saying they could rip out segmentation and put in FS and GS as offset registers | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis | and only the OS would have to know the difference | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis/fn | and only the OS would have to know the difference | Jun 03 17:08 |
CrystalMath | immibis: then 32-bit won't work | Jun 03 17:08 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: then 32-bit won't work | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis | why? what other properties do segments have in 32-bit windows? | Jun 03 17:08 |
immibis/fn | why? what other properties do segments have in 32-bit windows? | Jun 03 17:08 |
CrystalMath | there's also LDTs that processes can create with system calls | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | there's also LDTs that processes can create with system calls | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | and do | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | and do | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | and i mean, there's also segment limits | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | and i mean, there's also segment limits | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | segment permissions still work in long mode | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | segment permissions still work in long mode | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | segment-relative addressing still works in long mode | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | segment-relative addressing still works in long mode | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | but the base is 0 | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | but the base is 0 | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | and the limit is max | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | and the limit is max | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath | and yet still you can use segments | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | and yet still you can use segments | Jun 03 17:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: also earlier you said nobody was talking about plugging out 32-bit compatibility | Jun 03 17:10 |
CrystalMath | immibis: also earlier you said nobody was talking about plugging out 32-bit compatibility | Jun 03 17:10 |
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CrystalMath | but your suggestion would kill long mode too | Jun 03 17:11 |
CrystalMath/fn | but your suggestion would kill long mode too | Jun 03 17:11 |
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CrystalMath | the assumptions we've had so far in it | Jun 03 17:11 |
CrystalMath/fn | the assumptions we've had so far in it | Jun 03 17:11 |
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CrystalMath | because compatibility mode is a subset of long mode | Jun 03 17:11 |
CrystalMath/fn | because compatibility mode is a subset of long mode | Jun 03 17:11 |
CrystalMath | immibis: even 64-bit paging is just an added piece on top of PAE | Jun 03 17:12 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: even 64-bit paging is just an added piece on top of PAE | Jun 03 17:12 |
CrystalMath | it's all built on top, and you want to rip out the foundation | Jun 03 17:13 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's all built on top, and you want to rip out the foundation | Jun 03 17:13 |
CrystalMath | really, i would sooner expect ARM desktops than that | Jun 03 17:13 |
CrystalMath/fn | really, i would sooner expect ARM desktops than that | Jun 03 17:13 |
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CrystalMath | immibis: you do know that for some government purposes software s literally required by regulations to be 5+ years old? | Jun 03 17:15 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: you do know that for some government purposes software s literally required by regulations to be 5+ years old? | Jun 03 17:15 |
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TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 17:15 |
CrystalMath | immibis: and can be up to 20 years old | Jun 03 17:15 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: and can be up to 20 years old | Jun 03 17:15 |
techrights-bot | 1 hour ago: "The revenue issue at #IBM will continue. When AK announced the GTS spin-off the charts showed Kyndryl at 19 billion and Hybrid IBM at 58 billion." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 17:16 |
techrights-bot/fn | 1 hour ago: "The revenue issue at #IBM will continue. When AK announced the GTS spin-off the charts showed Kyndryl at 19 billion and Hybrid IBM at 58 billion." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 17:16 |
techrights-bot | Minutes ago: "Just get a van and sleep in the #IBM parking lot. Many of the facilities have showers." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 17:16 |
techrights-bot/fn | Minutes ago: "Just get a van and sleep in the #IBM parking lot. Many of the facilities have showers." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 17:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 17:16 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 17:16 |
techrights-bot | One hour ago on #ibm layoffs and collapse: "Same reason they had us all relocate in the first place: to drive people out. Resignations are cheaper than layoffs" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 17:17 |
techrights-bot/fn | One hour ago on #ibm layoffs and collapse: "Same reason they had us all relocate in the first place: to drive people out. Resignations are cheaper than layoffs" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 17:17 |
baronhk1[m] | <techrights-bot "Minutes ago: "Just get a van and"> Lol | Jun 03 17:18 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <techrights-bot "Minutes ago: "Just get a van and"> Lol | Jun 03 17:18 |
techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151897 #GNU #Linux | Jun 03 17:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 17:18 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151897 #GNU #Linux | Jun 03 17:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 17:18 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▂▂▄▆▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▁▄▆▆▄▅▃▁▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 20.18 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂█▁▂▂▃▇▁▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 48.31▕ swarm size (avg): 237.38 ⟲ | Jun 03 17:18 |
techrights-ipfs/fn | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▂▂▄▆▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▁▄▆▆▄▅▃▁▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 20.18 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂█▁▂▂▃▇▁▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 48.31▕ swarm size (avg): 237.38 ⟲ | Jun 03 17:18 |
techrights-bot | Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, #BSDNow , and #TLLTS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151898 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 17:19 |
techrights-bot/fn | Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, #BSDNow , and #TLLTS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151898 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 17:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, BSDNow, and TLLTS | Tux Machines | Jun 03 17:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, BSDNow, and TLLTS | Tux Machines | Jun 03 17:19 |
immibis | CrystalMath: does Linux care about segment permissions or segment limits or segment offsets other than FS and GS? | Jun 03 17:20 |
immibis/fn | CrystalMath: does Linux care about segment permissions or segment limits or segment offsets other than FS and GS? | Jun 03 17:20 |
CrystalMath | immibis: also your beloved UEFI requires 32-bit mode :P | Jun 03 17:20 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: also your beloved UEFI requires 32-bit mode :P | Jun 03 17:20 |
immibis | ... beloved? *blinks* | Jun 03 17:21 |
immibis/fn | ... beloved? *blinks* | Jun 03 17:21 |
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techrights-bot | "I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off #nvme without being in UEFI mode." Back doors or GTFO? By superkuh in #techrights #irc (moments ago) | Jun 03 17:21 |
techrights-bot/fn | "I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off #nvme without being in UEFI mode." Back doors or GTFO? By superkuh in #techrights #irc (moments ago) | Jun 03 17:21 |
CrystalMath | immibis: see modify_ldt() available even in 64-bit | Jun 03 17:21 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: see modify_ldt() available even in 64-bit | Jun 03 17:21 |
CrystalMath | but cannot be used to create 64-bit segments ofc | Jun 03 17:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | but cannot be used to create 64-bit segments ofc | Jun 03 17:22 |
CrystalMath | just 32-bit compat | Jun 03 17:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | just 32-bit compat | Jun 03 17:22 |
CrystalMath | also a kernel config can disable 16-bit segments to be created, but this is an artificial blockade chosen by the user | Jun 03 17:22 |
CrystalMath/fn | also a kernel config can disable 16-bit segments to be created, but this is an artificial blockade chosen by the user | Jun 03 17:22 |
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CrystalMath | "linux" still includes every possible config for it to not be broken | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | "linux" still includes every possible config for it to not be broken | Jun 03 17:23 |
schestowitz | immibis: the diff b/w 16bit and 32bit is massive compared to 32 and 64 | Jun 03 17:23 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: the diff b/w 16bit and 32bit is massive compared to 32 and 64 | Jun 03 17:23 |
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CrystalMath | so you need to be able to create 16-bit segments even in 64-bit mode | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | so you need to be able to create 16-bit segments even in 64-bit mode | Jun 03 17:23 |
schestowitz | not even comparable | Jun 03 17:23 |
schestowitz/fn | not even comparable | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath | schestowitz: not really | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | schestowitz: not really | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath | it is between real mode and protected mode | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | it is between real mode and protected mode | Jun 03 17:23 |
schestowitz | you could do just about anything except HPC with 32 | Jun 03 17:23 |
schestowitz/fn | you could do just about anything except HPC with 32 | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath | but 16-bit protected and 32-bit protected is 99.999% identical | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath/fn | but 16-bit protected and 32-bit protected is 99.999% identical | Jun 03 17:23 |
CrystalMath | it's just that nobody really used 16-bit protected mode except windows 3.11 :P | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's just that nobody really used 16-bit protected mode except windows 3.11 :P | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath | but... despite that, it's just ONE little bit | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | but... despite that, it's just ONE little bit | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath | of a difference | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | of a difference | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath | and in the microcode getting rid of one saves you *nothing* | Jun 03 17:24 |
CrystalMath/fn | and in the microcode getting rid of one saves you *nothing* | Jun 03 17:24 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: I think the RSS feeds of Meduza are broken | Jun 03 17:24 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: I think the RSS feeds of Meduza are broken | Jun 03 17:24 |
schestowitz | I saw nothing this week | Jun 03 17:24 |
schestowitz/fn | I saw nothing this week | Jun 03 17:24 |
schestowitz | Whenever I email them about it I received no reply | Jun 03 17:25 |
schestowitz/fn | Whenever I email them about it I received no reply | Jun 03 17:25 |
schestowitz | so I stopped bothering | Jun 03 17:25 |
schestowitz/fn | so I stopped bothering | Jun 03 17:25 |
CrystalMath | also real mode is just a tiny diversion in the microcode, diverting from the gigantic monstrosity of protected mode, but REUSING the other monstrosity of 16-bit addressing logic which is still valid even in 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 17:26 |
CrystalMath/fn | also real mode is just a tiny diversion in the microcode, diverting from the gigantic monstrosity of protected mode, but REUSING the other monstrosity of 16-bit addressing logic which is still valid even in 64-bit long mode | Jun 03 17:26 |
CrystalMath | there's nothing to gain from removing it, only to lose | Jun 03 17:26 |
CrystalMath/fn | there's nothing to gain from removing it, only to lose | Jun 03 17:26 |
CrystalMath | amd64 was built specifically to keep all the legacy stuff, and it won | Jun 03 17:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | amd64 was built specifically to keep all the legacy stuff, and it won | Jun 03 17:27 |
CrystalMath | you can use arm64 | Jun 03 17:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | you can use arm64 | Jun 03 17:27 |
CrystalMath | it doesn't have that | Jun 03 17:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | it doesn't have that | Jun 03 17:27 |
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CrystalMath | or mips64, or RISC-V | Jun 03 17:27 |
CrystalMath/fn | or mips64, or RISC-V | Jun 03 17:27 |
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CrystalMath | all alright architectures | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | all alright architectures | Jun 03 17:28 |
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techrights-bot | #Slimbook ONE #GNU #Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip https://news.itsfoss.com/slimbook-one-amd-mini-pc/ | Jun 03 17:28 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Slimbook ONE #GNU #Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip https://news.itsfoss.com/slimbook-one-amd-mini-pc/ | Jun 03 17:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Slimbook ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip - It's FOSS News | Jun 03 17:28 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | news.itsfoss.com | Slimbook ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip - It's FOSS News | Jun 03 17:28 |
MinceR | ARM has tons of legacy stuff, though | Jun 03 17:28 |
MinceR/fn | ARM has tons of legacy stuff, though | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath | well :) | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | well :) | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath | compatibility is good | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | compatibility is good | Jun 03 17:28 |
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MinceR | various instruction set sizes and whatever | Jun 03 17:28 |
MinceR/fn | various instruction set sizes and whatever | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath | it's not a bug | Jun 03 17:28 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's not a bug | Jun 03 17:28 |
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CrystalMath | it's a feature in my opinion | Jun 03 17:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | it's a feature in my opinion | Jun 03 17:29 |
CrystalMath | living without a rearview mirror sucks | Jun 03 17:29 |
CrystalMath/fn | living without a rearview mirror sucks | Jun 03 17:29 |
MinceR | i'm not the one who has an allergy to old stuff that works | Jun 03 17:29 |
MinceR/fn | i'm not the one who has an allergy to old stuff that works | Jun 03 17:29 |
techrights-bot | Jason Perlow, from Microsoft, now speaks for Linux Foundation, and cooperates on the killing of the Linux brand https://linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/interview-with-daniel-scales-chief-brand-counsel-linux-foundation/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ | Jun 03 17:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Interview with Daniel Scales, Chief Brand Counsel, Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation | Jun 03 17:30 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Jason Perlow, from Microsoft, now speaks for Linux Foundation, and cooperates on the killing of the Linux brand https://linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/interview-with-daniel-scales-chief-brand-counsel-linux-foundation/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ | Jun 03 17:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights | Jun 03 17:30 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | linuxfoundation.org | Interview with Daniel Scales, Chief Brand Counsel, Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation | Jun 03 17:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights | Jun 03 17:30 |
techrights-bot | Wow, #tecmint now reposts with a new date articles from 6 years ago. Lately they've just been faking the age of articles, in pursuit of traffic... https://www.tecmint.com/installation-of-manjaro-linux/ | Jun 03 17:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Installation of Manjaro 21.0 (KDE Edition) Desktop | Jun 03 17:33 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Wow, #tecmint now reposts with a new date articles from 6 years ago. Lately they've just been faking the age of articles, in pursuit of traffic... https://www.tecmint.com/installation-of-manjaro-linux/ | Jun 03 17:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tecmint.com | Installation of Manjaro 21.0 (KDE Edition) Desktop | Jun 03 17:33 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: They keep breaking it | Jun 03 17:34 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: They keep breaking it | Jun 03 17:34 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: they ought to have alerting in place | Jun 03 17:34 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: they ought to have alerting in place | Jun 03 17:34 |
schestowitz | if TR can have it, Meduza can too | Jun 03 17:34 |
schestowitz/fn | if TR can have it, Meduza can too | Jun 03 17:34 |
schestowitz | not too hard to check the integrity of RSS feeds, just fetch them and see if they can be parsed OK | Jun 03 17:35 |
schestowitz/fn | not too hard to check the integrity of RSS feeds, just fetch them and see if they can be parsed OK | Jun 03 17:35 |
schestowitz | but maybe they rely on 'social' 'media' instead | Jun 03 17:35 |
schestowitz/fn | but maybe they rely on 'social' 'media' instead | Jun 03 17:35 |
techrights-bot | Department of Defense (DoD) + #ibm #redhat = fake #security https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/separation-of-duty see http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ | Jun 03 17:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How do you handle NIST's separation of duty requirements? | Enable Sysadmin | Jun 03 17:37 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Department of Defense (DoD) + #ibm #redhat = fake #security https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/separation-of-duty see http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ | Jun 03 17:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights | Jun 03 17:37 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.redhat.com | How do you handle NIST's separation of duty requirements? | Enable Sysadmin | Jun 03 17:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights | Jun 03 17:37 |
techrights-bot | Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/02/create-your-own-low-cost-contactless-ir-thermometer-with-arduino/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 17:38 |
techrights-bot/fn | Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/02/create-your-own-low-cost-contactless-ir-thermometer-with-arduino/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 17:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog | Jun 03 17:38 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | blog.arduino.cc | Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog | Jun 03 17:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 17:38 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 17:38 |
techrights-bot | "What a terrible company this has become. Old man Watson would be spinning in his grave." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies | Jun 03 17:41 |
techrights-bot/fn | "What a terrible company this has become. Old man Watson would be spinning in his grave." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies | Jun 03 17:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 17:41 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 17:41 |
MinceR | would he really? | Jun 03 17:41 |
MinceR/fn | would he really? | Jun 03 17:41 |
schestowitz | yes | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz/fn | yes | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz | with his nazi mates | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz/fn | with his nazi mates | Jun 03 17:42 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 03 17:42 |
MinceR/fn | :> | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz | like a fedora rspin | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz/fn | like a fedora rspin | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz | *respin | Jun 03 17:42 |
schestowitz/fn | *respin | Jun 03 17:42 |
phobos_anomaly | wrap 'em in copper wire... could use him to generate more electricity for the grid... might solve the california brown out problem | Jun 03 17:43 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | wrap 'em in copper wire... could use him to generate more electricity for the grid... might solve the california brown out problem | Jun 03 17:43 |
techrights-bot | #Nvidia #DLSS is coming to boost frame rates for Linux gamers this month http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29854 | Jun 03 17:45 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Nvidia #DLSS is coming to boost frame rates for Linux gamers this month http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29854 | Jun 03 17:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 17:45 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 17:45 |
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techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat : with partners like these... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/red-hat-enterprise-linux-sap-130000610.html #ProprietarySoftware | Jun 03 17:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Red Hat Enterprise Linux for SAP® Solutions Now Available on SAP Store | Jun 03 17:46 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #ibm #redhat : with partners like these... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/red-hat-enterprise-linux-sap-130000610.html #ProprietarySoftware | Jun 03 17:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | finance.yahoo.com | Red Hat Enterprise Linux for SAP® Solutions Now Available on SAP Store | Jun 03 17:46 |
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techrights-bot | "A new IDC white paper sponsored by Red Hat..." So just like #microsoft the #ibm #redhat managers now bribe fake 'experts' to produce propaganda in "study" clothing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/idc-study-reveals-value-red-hat-certification see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDC | Jun 03 17:48 |
techrights-bot/fn | "A new IDC white paper sponsored by Red Hat..." So just like #microsoft the #ibm #redhat managers now bribe fake 'experts' to produce propaganda in "study" clothing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/idc-study-reveals-value-red-hat-certification see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDC | Jun 03 17:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | IDC study reveals the value of Red Hat Certification | Jun 03 17:48 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IDC - Techrights | Jun 03 17:48 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.redhat.com | IDC study reveals the value of Red Hat Certification | Jun 03 17:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | IDC - Techrights | Jun 03 17:48 |
techrights-bot | Gordon Haff from IBM, a former 'analyst', on rebranding servers as "clown" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/you-need-hybrid-cloud-digital-transformation #marketing #clowncomputing #cloudwashing | Jun 03 17:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | You need a hybrid cloud for digital transformation | Jun 03 17:49 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Gordon Haff from IBM, a former 'analyst', on rebranding servers as "clown" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/you-need-hybrid-cloud-digital-transformation #marketing #clowncomputing #cloudwashing | Jun 03 17:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.redhat.com | You need a hybrid cloud for digital transformation | Jun 03 17:49 |
techrights-bot | #RedHat is leaning on #proprietarysoftware companies now, instead of competing with them | Jun 03 17:51 |
techrights-bot/fn | #RedHat is leaning on #proprietarysoftware companies now, instead of competing with them | Jun 03 17:51 |
techrights-bot/fn | Low paid or unpaid #redhat workers. Is this the future under #ibm h https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2021/5/24/summer-intern-restart-up | Jun 03 17:53 |
techrights-bot | Low paid or unpaid #redhat workers. Is this the future under #ibm h https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2021/5/24/summer-intern-restart-up | Jun 03 17:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madelinepeck.com | Summer Intern Restart Up — Madeline Peck | Jun 03 17:53 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.madelinepeck.com | Summer Intern Restart Up — Madeline Peck | Jun 03 17:53 |
techrights-bot | "So you could turn it into a more traditional desktop-Linux based system if you wanted to." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/atari-vcs-finally-actually-launches-in-the-us-on-june-15 #games #gnu #linux | Jun 03 17:54 |
techrights-bot/fn | "So you could turn it into a more traditional desktop-Linux based system if you wanted to." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/atari-vcs-finally-actually-launches-in-the-us-on-june-15 #games #gnu #linux | Jun 03 17:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Atari VCS finally actually launches (in the US) on June 15 | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 17:54 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Atari VCS finally actually launches (in the US) on June 15 | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 17:54 |
techrights-bot | "The release is due sometime in "Q2 2022" with #GNU #Linux fully supported." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/thousand-lives-is-an-upcoming-minimalist-rogue-lite-role-playing-life-simulation | Jun 03 17:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thousand Lives is an upcoming minimalist rogue-lite role playing life simulation | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 17:56 | |
techrights-bot/fn | "The release is due sometime in "Q2 2022" with #GNU #Linux fully supported." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/thousand-lives-is-an-upcoming-minimalist-rogue-lite-role-playing-life-simulation | Jun 03 17:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Thousand Lives is an upcoming minimalist rogue-lite role playing life simulation | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 17:56 |
MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/5b86589ece2c31db.mp4 | Jun 03 17:56 |
MinceR/fn | (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/5b86589ece2c31db.mp4 | Jun 03 17:56 |
techrights-bot | "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux — for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt | Jun 03 17:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you're looking for a virtual table-top check out the latest Foundry VTT | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 17:57 | |
techrights-bot/fn | "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux — for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt | Jun 03 17:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | If you're looking for a virtual table-top check out the latest Foundry VTT | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 17:57 |
techrights-bot | "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux — for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt | Jun 03 17:57 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux — for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt | Jun 03 17:57 |
schestowitz | MinceR: that's me beneath the surface | Jun 03 17:59 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: that's me beneath the surface | Jun 03 17:59 |
MinceR | :) | Jun 03 18:00 |
MinceR/fn | :) | Jun 03 18:00 |
schestowitz | with Mr. Beans | Jun 03 18:00 |
schestowitz/fn | with Mr. Beans | Jun 03 18:00 |
techrights-bot | #ROS #Kinetic migration and its challenges – A community perspective. https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-kinetic-migration-and-its-challenges-a-community-perspective | Jun 03 18:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS Kinetic migration and its challenges – A community perspective. | Ubuntu | Jun 03 18:00 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #ROS #Kinetic migration and its challenges – A community perspective. https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-kinetic-migration-and-its-challenges-a-community-perspective | Jun 03 18:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | ROS Kinetic migration and its challenges – A community perspective. | Ubuntu | Jun 03 18:00 |
techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151899 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 18:01 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151899 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 18:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:01 |
techrights-bot | #Games : Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gaming | Jun 03 18:01 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Games : Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gaming | Jun 03 18:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:01 |
techrights-bot | #ReproducibleBuilds in May 2021 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-05/ #security #freesw | Jun 03 18:02 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ReproducibleBuilds in May 2021 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-05/ #security #freesw | Jun 03 18:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reproducible Builds in May 2021 — reproducible-builds.org | Jun 03 18:02 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Reproducible Builds in May 2021 — reproducible-builds.org | Jun 03 18:02 |
techrights-bot | #AMD is bringing performance-boosting #SmartShift tech to #Linux laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151847#comment-29855 | Jun 03 18:06 |
techrights-bot/fn | #AMD is bringing performance-boosting #SmartShift tech to #Linux laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151847#comment-29855 | Jun 03 18:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Continues Working On SmartShift Support For Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:06 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Continues Working On SmartShift Support For Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:06 |
techrights-bot/fn | You can imagine what OS it runs... https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/qnap-announces-tvs-x72x-10-gbe-nas-with-4k-hdmi-and-m-2-nvme-ssd-support.html | Jun 03 18:11 |
techrights-bot | You can imagine what OS it runs... https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/qnap-announces-tvs-x72x-10-gbe-nas-with-4k-hdmi-and-m-2-nvme-ssd-support.html | Jun 03 18:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.guru3d.com | QNAP Announces TVS-x72X 10 GbE NAS with 4K HDMI and M.2 NVMe SSD Support | Jun 03 18:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.guru3d.com | QNAP Announces TVS-x72X 10 GbE NAS with 4K HDMI and M.2 NVMe SSD Support | Jun 03 18:11 | |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'll try reporting through Ctrl+Enter | Jun 03 18:11 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'll try reporting through Ctrl+Enter | Jun 03 18:11 |
techrights-bot | #Mozilla: Rust, #MicrosoftTim on Latest #Firefox , and #TorBrowser 10.0.17 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151901 #www #TuxMachines | Jun 03 18:11 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Mozilla: Rust, #MicrosoftTim on Latest #Firefox , and #TorBrowser 10.0.17 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151901 #www #TuxMachines | Jun 03 18:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Rust, Microsoft Tim on Latest Firefox, and Tor Browser 10.0.17 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:12 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Rust, Microsoft Tim on Latest Firefox, and Tor Browser 10.0.17 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 18:12 |
techrights-bot | "Recent versions of Podman, Buildah, and CRI-O have started to take advantage of a new kernel feature, volatile overlay mounts." #ibm 'innovation' as #vendorLockin with #redhat brands https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/container-volatile-overlay-mounts | Jun 03 18:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | New container feature: Volatile overlay mounts | Enable Sysadmin | Jun 03 18:14 | |
techrights-bot/fn | "Recent versions of Podman, Buildah, and CRI-O have started to take advantage of a new kernel feature, volatile overlay mounts." #ibm 'innovation' as #vendorLockin with #redhat brands https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/container-volatile-overlay-mounts | Jun 03 18:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.redhat.com | New container feature: Volatile overlay mounts | Enable Sysadmin | Jun 03 18:14 |
techrights-bot | "On behalf of the Dancer Core Team, I'd like to announce the availability of Dancer2 0.301003." #perl #programming http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2021/06/dancer2-0301003-released.html | Jun 03 18:16 |
techrights-bot/fn | "On behalf of the Dancer Core Team, I'd like to announce the availability of Dancer2 0.301003." #perl #programming http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2021/06/dancer2-0301003-released.html | Jun 03 18:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dancer2 0.301003 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org] | Jun 03 18:16 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Dancer2 0.301003 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org] | Jun 03 18:16 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: not the keyboard shortcut but some site called that? | Jun 03 18:17 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: not the keyboard shortcut but some site called that? | Jun 03 18:17 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: The keyboard shortcut | Jun 03 18:17 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The keyboard shortcut | Jun 03 18:17 |
techrights-bot | #ArchLinux has a 2021.06.01 build now. #RollingRelease #gnu #linux | Jun 03 18:17 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ArchLinux has a 2021.06.01 build now. #RollingRelease #gnu #linux | Jun 03 18:17 |
techrights-bot | But that also helps #google follow you everywhere https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-websites.html I'd say, if you care about #www then stay WELL away from Google (or GAFAM) https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-feeds.html | Jun 03 18:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Chrome experiment lets you Follow news and website updates | Jun 03 18:24 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | A deeper dive into Chrome WebFeed | Jun 03 18:24 | |
techrights-bot/fn | But that also helps #google follow you everywhere https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-websites.html I'd say, if you care about #www then stay WELL away from Google (or GAFAM) https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-feeds.html | Jun 03 18:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.ctrl.blog | Chrome experiment lets you Follow news and website updates | Jun 03 18:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.ctrl.blog | A deeper dive into Chrome WebFeed | Jun 03 18:24 |
techrights-bot | #NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-460.84-Linux-Driver ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:26 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-460.84-Linux-Driver ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 18:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 18:26 |
techrights-bot | #AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-SS-BG-Linux-5.14 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:26 |
techrights-bot/fn | #AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-SS-BG-Linux-5.14 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:27 |
techrights-bot | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2021-June/225336.html #mesa #linux #graphics #freesw | Jun 03 18:27 |
techrights-bot/fn | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2021-June/225336.html #mesa #linux #graphics #freesw | Jun 03 18:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 | Jun 03 18:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | lists.freedesktop.org | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 | Jun 03 18:27 |
techrights-bot | DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within #SteamPlay - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DXVK-NVAPI-0.3 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:28 |
techrights-bot/fn | DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within #SteamPlay - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DXVK-NVAPI-0.3 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within Steam Play - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:28 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within Steam Play - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:28 |
techrights-bot/fn | How to become a ZUCKER instead of studying #programming frameworks not tied to #surveillanceCapitalism and #imperialism by #espionage https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-hack/ | Jun 03 18:30 |
techrights-bot | How to become a ZUCKER instead of studying #programming frameworks not tied to #surveillanceCapitalism and #imperialism by #espionage https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-hack/ | Jun 03 18:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Hack - LinuxLinks | Jun 03 18:30 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Hack - LinuxLinks | Jun 03 18:30 |
techrights-bot | Storage is very cheap and network capacities at homes improved vastly. Why still outsource your data??? ⚓ https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10265-roundup-of-unique-data-storage-hosting-options ䷉ #changelog | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:31 |
techrights-bot/fn | Storage is very cheap and network capacities at homes improved vastly. Why still outsource your data??? ⚓ https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10265-roundup-of-unique-data-storage-hosting-options ䷉ #changelog | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 18:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Roundup of Unique Data/Storage Hosting Options | The Changelog | Jun 03 18:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | changelog.complete.org | Roundup of Unique Data/Storage Hosting Options | The Changelog | Jun 03 18:32 |
techrights-bot | SPAMMING perfumed as email marketing and then a tingle of #openwashing https://medevel.com/12-open-source-free-self-hosted-email-marketing-solutions-alternative-to-mailchimp-sendinblue/ | Jun 03 18:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 12 open-source free self-hosted email marketing solutions | Jun 03 18:32 | |
techrights-bot/fn | SPAMMING perfumed as email marketing and then a tingle of #openwashing https://medevel.com/12-open-source-free-self-hosted-email-marketing-solutions-alternative-to-mailchimp-sendinblue/ | Jun 03 18:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | medevel.com | 12 open-source free self-hosted email marketing solutions | Jun 03 18:32 |
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techrights-bot | "Matt Mullenweg’s words in “The Commons of Images” episode of the WP Briefing podcast exemplify the core philosophy of the WordPress project, especially as we inch closer to the next major release (version 5.8)." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/the-month-in-wordpress-may-2021/ | Jun 03 18:33 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Matt Mullenweg’s words in “The Commons of Images” episode of the WP Briefing podcast exemplify the core philosophy of the WordPress project, especially as we inch closer to the next major release (version 5.8)." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/the-month-in-wordpress-may-2021/ | Jun 03 18:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News – The Month in WordPress: May 2021 – WordPress.org | Jun 03 18:33 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | News – The Month in WordPress: May 2021 – WordPress.org | Jun 03 18:33 |
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techrights-bot | Excuses for #ibm pushing workers to spread viruses while COVID still rages on: "If you're a young person who looks at this as a career and not just a pay check, then it probably is also in your interest to go into the office, because otherwise, your peers who do will get the skills and the promotions over you." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 18:36 |
techrights-bot/fn | Excuses for #ibm pushing workers to spread viruses while COVID still rages on: "If you're a young person who looks at this as a career and not just a pay check, then it probably is also in your interest to go into the office, because otherwise, your peers who do will get the skills and the promotions over you." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 18:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 18:36 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 18:36 |
MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/20/7da34b22bd459fd4.mp4 | Jun 03 18:37 |
MinceR/fn | (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/20/7da34b22bd459fd4.mp4 | Jun 03 18:37 |
techrights-bot | "But apparently, not all components are, and Arm has now announced the Open-CMSIS-Pack project that will move part of #CMSIS into the open project in collaboration with the Linaro IoT and Embedded Group." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/03/arm-introduces-open-cmsis-pack-and-keil-studio-cloud-for-mcu-software-development/ | Jun 03 18:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arm introduces Open-CMSIS-Pack and Keil Studio Cloud for MCU software development - CNX Software | Jun 03 18:39 | |
techrights-bot/fn | "But apparently, not all components are, and Arm has now announced the Open-CMSIS-Pack project that will move part of #CMSIS into the open project in collaboration with the Linaro IoT and Embedded Group." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/03/arm-introduces-open-cmsis-pack-and-keil-studio-cloud-for-mcu-software-development/ | Jun 03 18:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.cnx-software.com | Arm introduces Open-CMSIS-Pack and Keil Studio Cloud for MCU software development - CNX Software | Jun 03 18:39 |
techrights-bot | "I recently came across an excellent tool called KeyCombiner that helps you practice keyboard shortcuts (3 sets for free, $29/6 months for more sets). I spent some time to create a set for Amazing Marvin, my current todo manager of choice." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1630 | Jun 03 18:40 |
techrights-bot/fn | "I recently came across an excellent tool called KeyCombiner that helps you practice keyboard shortcuts (3 sets for free, $29/6 months for more sets). I spent some time to create a set for Amazing Marvin, my current todo manager of choice." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1630 | Jun 03 18:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thomas.apestaart.org » Amazing Marvin and KeyCombiner | Jun 03 18:40 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | thomas.apestaart.org » Amazing Marvin and KeyCombiner | Jun 03 18:40 |
techrights-bot | #GNU #GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GRUB-Backup-Restore ䷉ #Phoronix | Jun 03 18:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:41 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #GNU #GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GRUB-Backup-Restore ䷉ #Phoronix | Jun 03 18:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:41 |
techrights-bot | It's 2021 and #Intel STILL doesn't know how to set up a #git server https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-HAXM-7.7 they used to self-host with #gitlab and #freesw but then they got infiltrated by Microsofters: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Jun 03 18:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Releases HAXM 7.7 For Open-Source, Cross-Platform Virtualization Engine - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:44 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Jun 03 18:44 | |
techrights-bot/fn | It's 2021 and #Intel STILL doesn't know how to set up a #git server https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-HAXM-7.7 they used to self-host with #gitlab and #freesw but then they got infiltrated by Microsofters: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Jun 03 18:44 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Intel Releases HAXM 7.7 For Open-Source, Cross-Platform Virtualization Engine - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:44 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Jun 03 18:44 |
techrights-bot | #billBC pretended we were getting #covid19 under control with #billgates -connected products (which he INSISTED on PRIVATISING with #patents though us the taxpayers paid for tge research!). Latest stats: 6,496 new cases (34.7% increase week-to-week), patients admitted to hospital up 17.1%, testing down by 17.3% (so the reality is even worse) | Jun 03 18:50 |
techrights-bot/fn | #billBC pretended we were getting #covid19 under control with #billgates -connected products (which he INSISTED on PRIVATISING with #patents though us the taxpayers paid for tge research!). Latest stats: 6,496 new cases (34.7% increase week-to-week), patients admitted to hospital up 17.1%, testing down by 17.3% (so the reality is even worse) | Jun 03 18:50 |
techrights-bot | Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dbus-Broker-29-Released they'll need to #deletegithub to be seen as more technically professional. #kernel stuff outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware is 'bad taste' http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jun 03 18:54 |
techrights-bot/fn | Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dbus-Broker-29-Released they'll need to #deletegithub to be seen as more technically professional. #kernel stuff outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware is 'bad taste' http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jun 03 18:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:54 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jun 03 18:54 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix | Jun 03 18:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jun 03 18:54 |
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techrights-bot | #ibm #braindrain "People just watch their phones all day in the office or took 20 smoke breaks. Fun hours, town halls did not help productivity yet were mandatory? (more waste)... The "more engaged" is BS, most worked with teams not even local to their office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 18:57 |
techrights-bot/fn | #ibm #braindrain "People just watch their phones all day in the office or took 20 smoke breaks. Fun hours, town halls did not help productivity yet were mandatory? (more waste)... The "more engaged" is BS, most worked with teams not even local to their office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 18:57 |
techrights-bot | #Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues https://lwn.net/Articles/856819/ #programming | Jun 03 18:58 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues https://lwn.net/Articles/856819/ #programming | Jun 03 18:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues [LWN.net] | Jun 03 18:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues [LWN.net] | Jun 03 18:58 |
techrights-bot | Why #RISCV doesn't (yet) support #KVM https://lwn.net/Articles/856685/ | Jun 03 19:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why RISC-V doesn't (yet) support KVM [LWN.net] | Jun 03 19:02 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Why #RISCV doesn't (yet) support #KVM https://lwn.net/Articles/856685/ | Jun 03 19:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Why RISC-V doesn't (yet) support KVM [LWN.net] | Jun 03 19:03 |
schestowitz | The paywall on this article has just lapsed (today): https://lwn.net/Articles/857140/ | Jun 03 19:03 |
schestowitz/fn | The paywall on this article has just lapsed (today): https://lwn.net/Articles/857140/ | Jun 03 19:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Turmoil at the freenode IRC network [LWN.net] | Jun 03 19:03 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Turmoil at the freenode IRC network [LWN.net] | Jun 03 19:03 |
schestowitz | maybe some freenode people like rasengan can comment on its accuracy now without paying LWN | Jun 03 19:03 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe some freenode people like rasengan can comment on its accuracy now without paying LWN | Jun 03 19:03 |
techrights-bot | Graphics: Yellow Carp, DXVK-NVAPI, Mesa, #AMD , and #NVIDIA • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151902 #kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 19:04 |
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TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Yellow Carp, DXVK-NVAPI, Mesa, AMD, and NVIDIA | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:04 |
rasengan | schestowitz: Ah, yes, there are a lot of "inaccuracies" about the whole ordeal circulating for sure. IT's really unfortunate, but it's also an interesting phenomena. | Jun 03 19:06 |
rasengan/fn | schestowitz: Ah, yes, there are a lot of "inaccuracies" about the whole ordeal circulating for sure. IT's really unfortunate, but it's also an interesting phenomena. | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz | I am looking at the comments now | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz/fn | I am looking at the comments now | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz | they're all about you | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz/fn | they're all about you | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz | personification simplifies it for people | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz/fn | personification simplifies it for people | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz | same with FSF being turned into RMS | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz/fn | same with FSF being turned into RMS | Jun 03 19:06 |
schestowitz | and then it's about "things I don't like about RMS" | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz/fn | and then it's about "things I don't like about RMS" | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz | rasengan: well, I saw not a single blog post about IRC today | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz/fn | rasengan: well, I saw not a single blog post about IRC today | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz | I check about 500 sites | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz/fn | I check about 500 sites | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz | if the flux settles people will be more productive again | Jun 03 19:07 |
schestowitz/fn | if the flux settles people will be more productive again | Jun 03 19:07 |
rasengan | That's true | Jun 03 19:07 |
rasengan/fn | That's true | Jun 03 19:07 |
immibis | but, most of them will be productive on that other network (which shall not be named under threat of ban) | Jun 03 19:08 |
immibis/fn | but, most of them will be productive on that other network (which shall not be named under threat of ban) | Jun 03 19:08 |
schestowitz | the upside is that for the first time in decades IRC made many headlines and people who never heard of it now have a rough idea that it exists | Jun 03 19:08 |
schestowitz/fn | the upside is that for the first time in decades IRC made many headlines and people who never heard of it now have a rough idea that it exists | Jun 03 19:08 |
schestowitz | immibis: lol what? | Jun 03 19:08 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: lol what? | Jun 03 19:09 |
schestowitz | we'd never ban people for mentioning it | Jun 03 19:09 |
schestowitz/fn | we'd never ban people for mentioning it | Jun 03 19:09 |
schestowitz | unless you allude here to freenode ltd | Jun 03 19:09 |
schestowitz/fn | unless you allude here to freenode ltd | Jun 03 19:09 |
immibis | IIRC freenode has banned people for saying you should go there | Jun 03 19:09 |
immibis/fn | IIRC freenode has banned people for saying you should go there | Jun 03 19:10 |
immibis | or did they just seize channels. either way they don't like it | Jun 03 19:10 |
immibis/fn | or did they just seize channels. either way they don't like it | Jun 03 19:10 |
MinceR | afaik they just took over channels for having that in the topic | Jun 03 19:10 |
MinceR/fn | afaik they just took over channels for having that in the topic | Jun 03 19:10 |
schestowitz | 700 channels iirc? | Jun 03 19:11 |
schestowitz/fn | 700 channels iirc? | Jun 03 19:11 |
MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 03 19:11 |
MinceR/fn | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 03 19:11 |
schestowitz | https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jun 03 19:12 |
schestowitz/fn | https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jun 03 19:12 |
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schestowitz | past week: https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png | Jun 03 19:12 |
schestowitz/fn | past week: https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png | Jun 03 19:12 |
schestowitz | number of channels quite steady https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png | Jun 03 19:12 |
schestowitz/fn | number of channels quite steady https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png | Jun 03 19:12 |
schestowitz | this week number of users online also quite steady | Jun 03 19:13 |
schestowitz/fn | this week number of users online also quite steady | Jun 03 19:13 |
immibis | yeah, that's just inertia. I am seeing way more actual speech happening on libera than freenode. I myself am in many channels on both networks, but mostly just to point out where everyone's gone, seeing as putting that in the topic is illegal | Jun 03 19:13 |
immibis/fn | yeah, that's just inertia. I am seeing way more actual speech happening on libera than freenode. I myself am in many channels on both networks, but mostly just to point out where everyone's gone, seeing as putting that in the topic is illegal | Jun 03 19:13 |
schestowitz | like I said, people need to get back to work... | Jun 03 19:13 |
schestowitz/fn | like I said, people need to get back to work... | Jun 03 19:13 |
schestowitz | all that IRC infighting isn't productive | Jun 03 19:13 |
schestowitz/fn | all that IRC infighting isn't productive | Jun 03 19:13 |
schestowitz | tonight I'll write some bits about Novell and IBM | Jun 03 19:14 |
schestowitz/fn | tonight I'll write some bits about Novell and IBM | Jun 03 19:14 |
immibis | yup, those who have fully moved are now being productive over there; those who also stayed to watch the drama are of course making a conscious decision to be less productive in exchange for having to eat more popcorn | Jun 03 19:14 |
immibis/fn | yup, those who have fully moved are now being productive over there; those who also stayed to watch the drama are of course making a conscious decision to be less productive in exchange for having to eat more popcorn | Jun 03 19:14 |
MinceR | aha, so it's impossible to be productive on this network? | Jun 03 19:14 |
MinceR/fn | aha, so it's impossible to be productive on this network? | Jun 03 19:14 |
immibis | I made no such claim. you are acting like a leftist | Jun 03 19:15 |
immibis/fn | I made no such claim. you are acting like a leftist | Jun 03 19:15 |
techrights-bot | 3 mins ago: "FYI, Amazon was never profitable until #AWS so yeah, Amazon's success comes from AWS, i.e. its cloud business alone has more business than #IBM , sure of course it does. It started in 2006. What do you expect when you have a 10-year headstart." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 19:15 |
techrights-bot/fn | 3 mins ago: "FYI, Amazon was never profitable until #AWS so yeah, Amazon's success comes from AWS, i.e. its cloud business alone has more business than #IBM , sure of course it does. It started in 2006. What do you expect when you have a 10-year headstart." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 19:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 19:15 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 19:15 |
MinceR | you implied it | Jun 03 19:15 |
MinceR/fn | you implied it | Jun 03 19:15 |
schestowitz | immibis: they also lost many users by moving | Jun 03 19:15 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: they also lost many users by moving | Jun 03 19:15 |
schestowitz | not everyone moved with their impulsive 'leaders' | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz/fn | not everyone moved with their impulsive 'leaders' | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz | which iirc is why freenode decided to stop the migrations or to offer locals the choice to stay on the channels in freenode | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz/fn | which iirc is why freenode decided to stop the migrations or to offer locals the choice to stay on the channels in freenode | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz | shall they wish | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz/fn | shall they wish | Jun 03 19:16 |
immibis | I am seeing far more people talking productively on L-network than on freenode | Jun 03 19:16 |
immibis/fn | I am seeing far more people talking productively on L-network than on freenode | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz | fine, good for them | Jun 03 19:16 |
schestowitz/fn | fine, good for them | Jun 03 19:16 |
techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151903 #GNU #Linux | Jun 03 19:17 |
techrights-bot/fn | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151903 #GNU #Linux | Jun 03 19:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:17 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:17 |
psydroid | I thought free and open source software were about writing code and only talking on "as needed" basis | Jun 03 19:18 |
psydroid/fn | I thought free and open source software were about writing code and only talking on "as needed" basis | Jun 03 19:18 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▆▁▃▄▅▁▂▄▅▅▅▁▄▄▆▆▂▃▃▅▅▁▅▆▂▅▅▅▃▁▆▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 19.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂█▁▂█▁▂▃▄█▃▃▂▂██▂▃▂█▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 47.90▕ swarm size (avg): 237.42 ⟲ | Jun 03 19:18 |
techrights-ipfs/fn | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▆▁▃▄▅▁▂▄▅▅▅▁▄▄▆▆▂▃▃▅▅▁▅▆▂▅▅▅▃▁▆▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 19.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂█▁▂█▁▂▃▄█▃▃▂▂██▂▃▂█▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 47.90▕ swarm size (avg): 237.42 ⟲ | Jun 03 19:18 |
schestowitz | what it boils down to isn't number of lines of chat | Jun 03 19:20 |
schestowitz/fn | what it boils down to isn't number of lines of chat | Jun 03 19:20 |
schestowitz | last night this channel was chaos | Jun 03 19:20 |
schestowitz/fn | last night this channel was chaos | Jun 03 19:20 |
schestowitz | esp. because we had a bridge to LC | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz/fn | esp. because we had a bridge to LC | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz | with a certain troll eager to add to the chaos | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz/fn | with a certain troll eager to add to the chaos | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz | that's now "productive" | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz/fn | that's now "productive" | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz | I'd rather have a 'dead' channel than that awful s/n ratio | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz/fn | I'd rather have a 'dead' channel than that awful s/n ratio | Jun 03 19:21 |
XRevan86 | That "certain troll" only managed to get a few sentences out. | Jun 03 19:21 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] That "certain troll" only managed to get a few sentences out. | Jun 03 19:21 |
alextee[m] | oh is this on libera chat now? | Jun 03 19:21 |
alextee[m]/fn | oh is this on libera chat now? | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz | in fact, I ignored the channel for 2-3 hours before catching up with it because I wanted to find and read news, not argue with people looking for IRC fights | Jun 03 19:21 |
schestowitz/fn | in fact, I ignored the channel for 2-3 hours before catching up with it because I wanted to find and read news, not argue with people looking for IRC fights | Jun 03 19:21 |
XRevan86 | alextee[m]: "Yes but not yet." | Jun 03 19:22 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] alextee[m]: "Yes but not yet." | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: is this bridge still up? | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: is this bridge still up? | Jun 03 19:22 |
immibis | psydroid: it's also about forking and going with the strongest fork and not being afraid to abandon obsolete ones | Jun 03 19:22 |
immibis/fn | psydroid: it's also about forking and going with the strongest fork and not being afraid to abandon obsolete ones | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz | and that other network just quiet? | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz/fn | and that other network just quiet? | Jun 03 19:22 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, it's not connected to there. | Jun 03 19:22 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: No, it's not connected to there. | Jun 03 19:22 |
immibis | i thought the bridge there was removed yesterday because an undesirable was using it | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz | anyone saying anything there? | Jun 03 19:22 |
immibis/fn | i thought the bridge there was removed yesterday because an undesirable was using it | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz/fn | anyone saying anything there? | Jun 03 19:22 |
immibis | if you want to find out why don't you just join it? | Jun 03 19:22 |
immibis/fn | if you want to find out why don't you just join it? | Jun 03 19:22 |
alextee[m] | i just typed "test" | Jun 03 19:22 |
alextee[m]/fn | i just typed "test" | Jun 03 19:22 |
XRevan86 | I'm not in there, no idea. | Jun 03 19:22 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I'm not in there, no idea. | Jun 03 19:22 |
schestowitz | how many people were online there? It's clearly not ours | Jun 03 19:23 |
schestowitz/fn | how many people were online there? It's clearly not ours | Jun 03 19:23 |
schestowitz | misappropriated | Jun 03 19:23 |
schestowitz/fn | misappropriated | Jun 03 19:23 |
alextee[m] | 26 people | Jun 03 19:23 |
alextee[m]/fn | 26 people | Jun 03 19:23 |
alextee[m] | topic is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Jun 03 19:23 |
alextee[m]/fn | topic is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Jun 03 19:23 |
schestowitz | are they saying any7thing? | Jun 03 19:23 |
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schestowitz/fn | are they saying any7thing? | Jun 03 19:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights | Jun 03 19:23 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights | Jun 03 19:23 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: It is ours, but superkuh de-opped, so… | Jun 03 19:23 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: It is ours, but superkuh de-opped, so… | Jun 03 19:23 |
psydroid | immibis, I hope the strongest fork will make its developers feel liberated and move to the most liberated chat network | Jun 03 19:23 |
psydroid/fn | immibis, I hope the strongest fork will make its developers feel liberated and move to the most liberated chat network | Jun 03 19:23 |
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MinceR | so it "was" "ours" | Jun 03 19:23 |
MinceR/fn | so it "was" "ours" | Jun 03 19:23 |
XRevan86 | so now it's no one's | Jun 03 19:24 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] so now it's no one's | Jun 03 19:24 |
MinceR | i can't wait to hear about how "strong" ibm and microsoft are | Jun 03 19:24 |
MinceR/fn | i can't wait to hear about how "strong" ibm and microsoft are | Jun 03 19:24 |
schestowitz | well, a bridge to it would just encourage more people to go to the unofficial place | Jun 03 19:24 |
schestowitz/fn | well, a bridge to it would just encourage more people to go to the unofficial place | Jun 03 19:24 |
schestowitz | I just worried it might become an anti-TR forums | Jun 03 19:24 |
schestowitz/fn | I just worried it might become an anti-TR forums | Jun 03 19:24 |
psydroid | IBM and Microsoft are most liberated of all companies out there | Jun 03 19:24 |
psydroid/fn | IBM and Microsoft are most liberated of all companies out there | Jun 03 19:24 |
schestowitz | manned with people looking to badmouth us | Jun 03 19:24 |
schestowitz/fn | manned with people looking to badmouth us | Jun 03 19:24 |
MinceR | should have squatted it earlier to prevent that | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR/fn | should have squatted it earlier to prevent that | Jun 03 19:25 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: superkuh did | Jun 03 19:25 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: superkuh did | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR | and even then, opers serving ibm could just as easily undo it | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR/fn | and even then, opers serving ibm could just as easily undo it | Jun 03 19:25 |
immibis | have you actually tried asking libera staff since they are helping channels migrate? | Jun 03 19:25 |
immibis/fn | have you actually tried asking libera staff since they are helping channels migrate? | Jun 03 19:25 |
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MinceR | 03 202418 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- #techrights is not registered. | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR/fn | 03 202418 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- #techrights is not registered. | Jun 03 19:25 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: There's no op that can claim it. | Jun 03 19:25 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: There's no op that can claim it. | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR | this is not migration, merely opening an extra channel | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR/fn | this is not migration, merely opening an extra channel | Jun 03 19:25 |
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MinceR/fn | yeah, they should have while they still could | Jun 03 19:25 |
MinceR | yeah, they should have while they still could | Jun 03 19:25 |
immibis | well you don't have to tell them that | Jun 03 19:25 |
immibis/fn | well you don't have to tell them that | Jun 03 19:25 |
schestowitz | if it's idle for the most part, no harm done, I guess | Jun 03 19:26 |
schestowitz/fn | if it's idle for the most part, no harm done, I guess | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m] | libera staff would happily give you the channel I think if you ask | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m]/fn | libera staff would happily give you the channel I think if you ask | Jun 03 19:26 |
schestowitz | it's now where we are | Jun 03 19:26 |
schestowitz/fn | it's now where we are | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m] | you just need to prove it's you | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m]/fn | you just need to prove it's you | Jun 03 19:26 |
schestowitz | we are self-hosted and more | Jun 03 19:26 |
schestowitz/fn | we are self-hosted and more | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m] | I had to set some TXT record on my domain | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m]/fn | I had to set some TXT record on my domain | Jun 03 19:26 |
superkuh | You just have to send a ticket to support@libera.chat with who you are, what channel you want, the story, etc. | Jun 03 19:26 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] You just have to send a ticket to support@libera.chat with who you are, what channel you want, the story, etc. | Jun 03 19:26 |
superkuh | Get a ticket number, wait a day or two. | Jun 03 19:26 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] Get a ticket number, wait a day or two. | Jun 03 19:26 |
superkuh | Or ask in #libera. | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m] | yeah | Jun 03 19:26 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] Or ask in #libera. | Jun 03 19:26 |
alextee[m]/fn | yeah | Jun 03 19:26 |
schestowitz | but we don't want a channel in another network | Jun 03 19:27 |
schestowitz/fn | but we don't want a channel in another network | Jun 03 19:27 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Are ye registered there? | Jun 03 19:27 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Are ye registered there? | Jun 03 19:27 |
schestowitz | registering it would send the wrong message | Jun 03 19:27 |
schestowitz/fn | registering it would send the wrong message | Jun 03 19:27 |
superkuh | K. | Jun 03 19:27 |
MinceR | XRevan86: i do have a registered nick over there but i'm not on #techrights | Jun 03 19:27 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] K. | Jun 03 19:27 |
tr-bridge | [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: i do have a registered nick over there but i'm not on #techrights | Jun 03 19:27 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I think it can be a good additional entry point. | Jun 03 19:28 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I think it can be a good additional entry point. | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR | if we don't have a channel in another network, then we shouldn't bridge to that network | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR/fn | if we don't have a channel in another network, then we shouldn't bridge to that network | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: can you set a one-way bridge? | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: can you set a one-way bridge? | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR | what's that good for? | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR/fn | what's that good for? | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz | so as to discourage more people going there? | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz/fn | so as to discourage more people going there? | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR | making easier for mjg to dig up shit to post on twatter? | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR/fn | making easier for mjg to dig up shit to post on twatter? | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz | MinceR: the logs are public | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: the logs are public | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz | no advantage for him | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz/fn | no advantage for him | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR | they are, but they are published with a delay | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR/fn | they are, but they are published with a delay | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz | except if he wants to spew in | Jun 03 19:28 |
schestowitz/fn | except if he wants to spew in | Jun 03 19:28 |
MinceR | and you can see how insistent he was on getting them realtime | Jun 03 19:29 |
MinceR/fn | and you can see how insistent he was on getting them realtime | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz | the delay doesn't matter much | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz/fn | the delay doesn't matter much | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz | 0-24-hour delay | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz/fn | 0-24-hour delay | Jun 03 19:29 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: What message would that send? That ye really-really dislike that network? | Jun 03 19:29 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: What message would that send? That ye really-really dislike that network? | Jun 03 19:29 |
MinceR | apparently it does matter to the armonk mafia and to the redmond mafia | Jun 03 19:29 |
MinceR/fn | apparently it does matter to the armonk mafia and to the redmond mafia | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: no, that it's not the place that's official | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: no, that it's not the place that's official | Jun 03 19:29 |
psydroid | that's actually a good idea | Jun 03 19:29 |
psydroid/fn | that's actually a good idea | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz | and can help monitor in case they use that channel to try to scheme against us | Jun 03 19:29 |
schestowitz/fn | and can help monitor in case they use that channel to try to scheme against us | Jun 03 19:29 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: The topic can advertise the official IRC server. | Jun 03 19:30 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The topic can advertise the official IRC server. | Jun 03 19:30 |
psydroid | it would be just a relay of what is happening here | Jun 03 19:30 |
psydroid/fn | it would be just a relay of what is happening here | Jun 03 19:30 |
schestowitz | we don't need to respond to them if they say something | Jun 03 19:30 |
schestowitz/fn | we don't need to respond to them if they say something | Jun 03 19:30 |
XRevan86 | And the bots pushing messages through the bridge gives that message also. | Jun 03 19:30 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] And the bots pushing messages through the bridge gives that message also. | Jun 03 19:30 |
schestowitz | psydroid: that's why I asked about one-way bridge | Jun 03 19:30 |
schestowitz/fn | psydroid: that's why I asked about one-way bridge | Jun 03 19:30 |
schestowitz | if that is an option in whatever XRevan86 uses for that | Jun 03 19:30 |
schestowitz/fn | if that is an option in whatever XRevan86 uses for that | Jun 03 19:30 |
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techrights-bot | "What does IBM have? Z, DB2, cloud paks??? They are also screwing #Redhat dude. #IBM is finished 10 years back. Nothing can change it. If you are at IBM, it means you are low skilled and can't find any jobs elsewhere." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 19:32 |
techrights-bot/fn | "What does IBM have? Z, DB2, cloud paks??? They are also screwing #Redhat dude. #IBM is finished 10 years back. Nothing can change it. If you are at IBM, it means you are low skilled and can't find any jobs elsewhere." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 19:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 19:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 19:32 |
XRevan86 | It is possible | Jun 03 19:33 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] It is possible | Jun 03 19:33 |
schestowitz | let's try :-) | Jun 03 19:33 |
schestowitz/fn | let's try :-) | Jun 03 19:33 |
schestowitz | hopefully little will come in | Jun 03 19:33 |
schestowitz/fn | hopefully little will come in | Jun 03 19:33 |
schestowitz | a two-way bridge helps fork the efforts | Jun 03 19:33 |
schestowitz/fn | a two-way bridge helps fork the efforts | Jun 03 19:33 |
MinceR | the ibm/m$ drones will probably crapflood us via the bridge | Jun 03 19:34 |
MinceR/fn | the ibm/m$ drones will probably crapflood us via the bridge | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz | a one-way bridge would help keep everything in one place+self-hosted | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz/fn | a one-way bridge would help keep everything in one place+self-hosted | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz | MinceR: if they try, we can stop that | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: if they try, we can stop that | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz | it would be a low blow is they used the other network just to spew hate | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz/fn | it would be a low blow is they used the other network just to spew hate | Jun 03 19:34 |
MinceR | you should be used to low blows from them by now | Jun 03 19:34 |
MinceR/fn | you should be used to low blows from them by now | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz | in a channel they know to be a 'knockoff' | Jun 03 19:34 |
schestowitz/fn | in a channel they know to be a 'knockoff' | Jun 03 19:34 |
MinceR | DDoSing the website is not a low blow? | Jun 03 19:35 |
MinceR/fn | DDoSing the website is not a low blow? | Jun 03 19:35 |
schestowitz | we have some programs in place | Jun 03 19:35 |
schestowitz/fn | we have some programs in place | Jun 03 19:35 |
MinceR | trying to bribe your employer is not a low blow? | Jun 03 19:35 |
MinceR/fn | trying to bribe your employer is not a low blow? | Jun 03 19:35 |
MinceR | these people realized ages ago that they can't compete with anything made by people who know what they're doing | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR/fn | these people realized ages ago that they can't compete with anything made by people who know what they're doing | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR | that's why we have shit like UEFI | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR/fn | that's why we have shit like UEFI | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR | and the microsoft tax | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR/fn | and the microsoft tax | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR | and lots of corruption | Jun 03 19:36 |
MinceR/fn | and lots of corruption | Jun 03 19:36 |
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techrights-bot | #OBSStudio 27.0 Released with Wayland Support. How to Install via Ubuntu PPA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151837#comment-29857 | Jun 03 19:37 |
techrights-bot/fn | #OBSStudio 27.0 Released with Wayland Support. How to Install via Ubuntu PPA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151837#comment-29857 | Jun 03 19:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OBS Studio 27.0 Released With Undo/Redo, Wayland Support | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:37 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | OBS Studio 27.0 Released With Undo/Redo, Wayland Support | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:37 |
XRevan86 | IgnoreMessages="^." should do the trick then. | Jun 03 19:37 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] IgnoreMessages="^." should do the trick then. | Jun 03 19:37 |
schestowitz | XRevan86 thanks | Jun 03 19:37 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86 thanks | Jun 03 19:37 |
techrights-bot | #Blender3d 2.93 LTS Released with a Lot of Major Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29858 | Jun 03 19:39 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Blender3d 2.93 LTS Released with a Lot of Major Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29858 | Jun 03 19:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:39 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/1dc437aedcc06338.jpg | Jun 03 19:40 |
MinceR/fn | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/1dc437aedcc06338.jpg | Jun 03 19:40 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: I thought this topic is over. | Jun 03 19:40 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I thought this topic is over. | Jun 03 19:40 |
immibis | thank you for setting it up so libera can spy on freenode to make sure you're not scheming against us. our ex-staffer overlords thank you. | Jun 03 19:41 |
immibis/fn | thank you for setting it up so libera can spy on freenode to make sure you're not scheming against us. our ex-staffer overlords thank you. | Jun 03 19:41 |
XRevan86 | Next thing they'll find out about that the logs are publicly available. | Jun 03 19:42 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Next thing they'll find out about that the logs are publicly available. | Jun 03 19:42 |
schestowitz | I think you got it the other way around, MinceR | Jun 03 19:42 |
schestowitz/fn | I think you got it the other way around, MinceR | Jun 03 19:42 |
schestowitz | oops, immibis I meant | Jun 03 19:43 |
schestowitz/fn | oops, immibis I meant | Jun 03 19:43 |
MinceR | it's a bad idea either way | Jun 03 19:43 |
MinceR/fn | it's a bad idea either way | Jun 03 19:43 |
schestowitz | immibis: we can see if they misuse the channel there | Jun 03 19:43 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: we can see if they misuse the channel there | Jun 03 19:43 |
immibis | you can't | Jun 03 19:43 |
immibis/fn | you can't | Jun 03 19:43 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: How? | Jun 03 19:43 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: How? | Jun 03 19:43 |
schestowitz | they cannot see us, except in logs or by connecting to irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 19:43 |
schestowitz/fn | they cannot see us, except in logs or by connecting to irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 19:43 |
immibis | they can see if you misuse this one | Jun 03 19:43 |
immibis/fn | they can see if you misuse this one | Jun 03 19:43 |
MinceR | garrett will, you can be sure of that | Jun 03 19:43 |
MinceR/fn | garrett will, you can be sure of that | Jun 03 19:43 |
XRevan86 | oh | Jun 03 19:43 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] oh | Jun 03 19:43 |
schestowitz | wait, maybe it was set up in reverse? | Jun 03 19:44 |
schestowitz/fn | wait, maybe it was set up in reverse? | Jun 03 19:44 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I am confused. Which they do ye want it to be mute? | Jun 03 19:44 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I am confused. Which they do ye want it to be mute? | Jun 03 19:44 |
XRevan86 | * which way | Jun 03 19:44 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] * which way | Jun 03 19:44 |
schestowitz | I meant, we see theirs | Jun 03 19:44 |
schestowitz/fn | I meant, we see theirs | Jun 03 19:44 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 19:44 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 19:44 |
schestowitz | they can only read logs in HTML | Jun 03 19:44 |
schestowitz/fn | they can only read logs in HTML | Jun 03 19:44 |
*XRevan86 is trying to understand – why | Jun 03 19:44 | |
*tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] is trying to understand – why | Jun 03 19:44 | |
XRevan86 | I thought ye didn't want unmoderated stuff to come *from* there | Jun 03 19:44 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I thought ye didn't want unmoderated stuff to come *from* there | Jun 03 19:44 |
schestowitz | assuming they'd abuse it | Jun 03 19:45 |
schestowitz/fn | assuming they'd abuse it | Jun 03 19:45 |
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schestowitz/fn | see, if they cannot receive replies from here, then no point abusing | Jun 03 19:45 |
schestowitz | see, if they cannot receive replies from here, then no point abusing | Jun 03 19:45 |
schestowitz | it's like shooting in the dark | Jun 03 19:45 |
schestowitz/fn | it's like shooting in the dark | Jun 03 19:45 |
Nonagon | and why would you care here, what they say there, if they can't see what you say here? | Jun 03 19:46 |
Nonagon/fn | and why would you care here, what they say there, if they can't see what you say here? | Jun 03 19:46 |
schestowitz | the idea is to keep the presence in one place, not spread out | Jun 03 19:46 |
schestowitz/fn | the idea is to keep the presence in one place, not spread out | Jun 03 19:46 |
Nonagon | they're not going to "scheme against you" | Jun 03 19:46 |
Nonagon/fn | they're not going to "scheme against you" | Jun 03 19:46 |
schestowitz | and I doubt everyone would use our self-hosted network | Jun 03 19:46 |
schestowitz/fn | and I doubt everyone would use our self-hosted network | Jun 03 19:46 |
schestowitz | Nonagon: no, misrepresentation is the issue | Jun 03 19:46 |
schestowitz/fn | Nonagon: no, misrepresentation is the issue | Jun 03 19:46 |
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schestowitz | like bringing people in to the wrong place | Jun 03 19:47 |
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schestowitz | and then feeding them abusive things | Jun 03 19:47 |
XRevan86 | That's a bad idea, I think it's better to leave them alone then. | Jun 03 19:47 |
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tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] That's a bad idea, I think it's better to leave them alone then. | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz | and then somehow can say, "LOOK at those nasty "techrights" people..." | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz/fn | and then somehow can say, "LOOK at those nasty "techrights" people..." | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: which is sort of what we do | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: which is sort of what we do | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz | we don't speak back to them | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz/fn | we don't speak back to them | Jun 03 19:47 |
schestowitz | at the same time, if they do harmful chats to tarnish our name, that can be sort of monitored | Jun 03 19:48 |
schestowitz/fn | at the same time, if they do harmful chats to tarnish our name, that can be sort of monitored | Jun 03 19:48 |
MinceR | that's futile enough | Jun 03 19:48 |
MinceR/fn | that's futile enough | Jun 03 19:48 |
schestowitz | even reported if it becomes very obviously nefarious | Jun 03 19:48 |
schestowitz/fn | even reported if it becomes very obviously nefarious | Jun 03 19:48 |
schestowitz | MinceR: maybe so... | Jun 03 19:48 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: maybe so... | Jun 03 19:48 |
MinceR | they could do harmful chats on twatter, shitcord | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR/fn | they could do harmful chats on twatter, shitcord | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | they can | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | they can | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR | even services hosted by dehomag or microshit | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR/fn | even services hosted by dehomag or microshit | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | I watch that too | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | I watch that too | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | in twitter | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | in twitter | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | that's how I catch them telling lies | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | that's how I catch them telling lies | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | like insinuating homophobia | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | like insinuating homophobia | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR | they can create more channels | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR/fn | they can create more channels | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | and then we can respond to that | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | and then we can respond to that | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR | they can do so on oftc, too | Jun 03 19:49 |
MinceR/fn | they can do so on oftc, too | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yes, but afaik on oftc people did not join such a channel | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: yes, but afaik on oftc people did not join such a channel | Jun 03 19:49 |
schestowitz | [19:49] <MinceR> even services hosted by dehomag or microshit | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz/fn | [19:49] <MinceR> even services hosted by dehomag or microshit | Jun 03 19:50 |
MinceR | how do you know? | Jun 03 19:50 |
MinceR/fn | how do you know? | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz | EPO has spies who spy on Techrights | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz/fn | EPO has spies who spy on Techrights | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz/fn | and some leaks that to me | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz | and some leaks that to me | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz | and it helps our strategy | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz/fn | and it helps our strategy | Jun 03 19:50 |
XRevan86 | My idea was to have another entry point that is welcoming, considering that many new to IRC people will now join Libera as a first network. | Jun 03 19:50 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] My idea was to have another entry point that is welcoming, considering that many new to IRC people will now join Libera as a first network. | Jun 03 19:50 |
Nonagon | the bridge left the libera room | Jun 03 19:50 |
Nonagon/fn | the bridge left the libera room | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz | like knowing what puff pieces or slant they have planned | Jun 03 19:50 |
schestowitz/fn | like knowing what puff pieces or slant they have planned | Jun 03 19:50 |
XRevan86 | Nonagon: The bridge cannot ignore messages from two places into one place. | Jun 03 19:51 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Nonagon: The bridge cannot ignore messages from two places into one place. | Jun 03 19:51 |
Nonagon | how do you mean? | Jun 03 19:51 |
Nonagon/fn | how do you mean? | Jun 03 19:51 |
schestowitz | XRevan86 and be welcomed by people who don't represent us | Jun 03 19:51 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86 and be welcomed by people who don't represent us | Jun 03 19:51 |
schestowitz | and can put people off | Jun 03 19:51 |
schestowitz/fn | and can put people off | Jun 03 19:51 |
XRevan86 | Nonagon: I misunderstood what he wants. And what he wants I cannot implement. | Jun 03 19:51 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Nonagon: I misunderstood what he wants. And what he wants I cannot implement. | Jun 03 19:51 |
Nonagon | Ah, I see | Jun 03 19:52 |
Nonagon/fn | Ah, I see | Jun 03 19:52 |
Nonagon | what is tr-bridge coded in? | Jun 03 19:52 |
Nonagon/fn | what is tr-bridge coded in? | Jun 03 19:52 |
XRevan86 | Nonagon: It's matterbridge, in Go. | Jun 03 19:52 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Nonagon: It's matterbridge, in Go. | Jun 03 19:52 |
Nonagon | ah, nice | Jun 03 19:52 |
Nonagon/fn | ah, nice | Jun 03 19:52 |
superkuh | s/in Go/in Googlang/. | Jun 03 19:52 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] s/in Go/in Googlang/. | Jun 03 19:52 |
MinceR | s/in Go/in LOL NO GENERICS/ | Jun 03 19:53 |
MinceR/fn | s/in Go/in LOL NO GENERICS/ | Jun 03 19:53 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: If it were a fully connected room, then people would've been welcomed by *us*. | Jun 03 19:53 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: If it were a fully connected room, then people would've been welcomed by *us*. | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz | OK, let's try a two-way bridge | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz/fn | OK, let's try a two-way bridge | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz | and hope it won't be too awful | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz/fn | and hope it won't be too awful | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz | because afaik you stopped it some time last night | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz/fn | because afaik you stopped it some time last night | Jun 03 19:53 |
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XRevan86 | schestowitz: Right, but we need something first. | Jun 03 19:53 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Right, but we need something first. | Jun 03 19:53 |
schestowitz | go ahead... ... | Jun 03 19:54 |
schestowitz/fn | go ahead... ... | Jun 03 19:54 |
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Nonagon | schestowitz: two way bridge where? | Jun 03 19:54 |
Nonagon/fn | schestowitz: two way bridge where? | Jun 03 19:54 |
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XRevan86 | schestowitz: I am hoping to get Ariadne to help us to get the room registered, hopefully on MincR. | Jun 03 19:54 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I am hoping to get Ariadne to help us to get the room registered, hopefully on MincR. | Jun 03 19:54 |
XRevan86 | * MinceR | Jun 03 19:54 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] * MinceR | Jun 03 19:54 |
XRevan86 | so that if there are bad actors there (as in any other place), there should be control by the ops | Jun 03 19:55 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] so that if there are bad actors there (as in any other place), there should be control by the ops | Jun 03 19:55 |
schestowitz | if someone rogue tried to register it, we can challenge that later | Jun 03 19:55 |
schestowitz/fn | if someone rogue tried to register it, we can challenge that later | Jun 03 19:55 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yesterday MinceR asked to disconnect it when a certain mjg59 tried using it. | Jun 03 19:56 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Yesterday MinceR asked to disconnect it when a certain mjg59 tried using it. | Jun 03 19:56 |
XRevan86 | so that's the situation, it needs an op | Jun 03 19:56 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] so that's the situation, it needs an op | Jun 03 19:56 |
MinceR | also when it turned out that it's bridging these channels to a channel where nobody has op | Jun 03 19:56 |
MinceR/fn | also when it turned out that it's bridging these channels to a channel where nobody has op | Jun 03 19:56 |
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MinceR | and also wasn't registered | Jun 03 19:57 |
MinceR/fn | and also wasn't registered | Jun 03 19:57 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Not "also", that's what I mean. | Jun 03 19:57 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Not "also", that's what I mean. | Jun 03 19:57 |
schestowitz/fn | is that troll still there? | Jun 03 19:57 |
schestowitz | is that troll still there? | Jun 03 19:57 |
Nonagon | schestowitz: which? | Jun 03 19:58 |
Nonagon/fn | schestowitz: which? | Jun 03 19:58 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: He is here and he will definitely know. | Jun 03 19:58 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: He is here and he will definitely know. | Jun 03 19:58 |
schestowitz | there are several? I saw one. | Jun 03 19:58 |
schestowitz/fn | there are several? I saw one. | Jun 03 19:58 |
MinceR | he's here | Jun 03 19:58 |
tr-bridge | [MinceR/tr] he's here | Jun 03 19:58 |
schestowitz | so just different name | Jun 03 19:58 |
schestowitz/fn | so just different name | Jun 03 19:58 |
Nonagon | ah | Jun 03 19:58 |
Nonagon/fn | ah | Jun 03 19:58 |
schestowitz | letting one troll cause this much mess is helping the troll's ego | Jun 03 19:58 |
schestowitz/fn | letting one troll cause this much mess is helping the troll's ego | Jun 03 19:58 |
MinceR | another reason to be more careful | Jun 03 19:59 |
MinceR/fn | another reason to be more careful | Jun 03 19:59 |
techrights-bot | This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/03/this-dad-built-an-adaptive-usb-keyboard-for-his-son-and-other-kids-with-muscular-conditions/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | Jun 03 20:01 |
techrights-bot/fn | This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/03/this-dad-built-an-adaptive-usb-keyboard-for-his-son-and-other-kids-with-muscular-conditions/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | Jun 03 20:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog | Jun 03 20:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | blog.arduino.cc | This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog | Jun 03 20:01 |
schestowitz | MinceR: but if we have no bridge because of just one determined troll, then the troll feels emboldened | Jun 03 20:04 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: but if we have no bridge because of just one determined troll, then the troll feels emboldened | Jun 03 20:04 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Would ye agree to be "the founder" there? | Jun 03 20:04 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Would ye agree to be "the founder" there? | Jun 03 20:04 |
schestowitz | I trust him to. | Jun 03 20:04 |
schestowitz/fn | I trust him to. | Jun 03 20:04 |
MinceR | if i have to be | Jun 03 20:04 |
MinceR/fn | if i have to be | Jun 03 20:04 |
MinceR | i'd rather not | Jun 03 20:04 |
MinceR/fn | i'd rather not | Jun 03 20:04 |
schestowitz | register, mute the culprit | Jun 03 20:04 |
schestowitz/fn | register, mute the culprit | Jun 03 20:04 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: schestowitz doesn't want to register an account there | Jun 03 20:05 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: schestowitz doesn't want to register an account there | Jun 03 20:05 |
MinceR | ok | Jun 03 20:05 |
MinceR/fn | ok | Jun 03 20:05 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: thanks! | Jun 03 20:11 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: thanks! | Jun 03 20:11 |
techrights-bot | Today in a press release the #LinuxFoundation celebrates an OS that is now #Linux https://linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/the-zephyr-project-celebrates-5th-anniversary-with-new-members-and-inaugural-zephyr-developer-summit-on-june-8-10/ | Jun 03 20:13 |
techrights-bot/fn | Today in a press release the #LinuxFoundation celebrates an OS that is now #Linux https://linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/the-zephyr-project-celebrates-5th-anniversary-with-new-members-and-inaugural-zephyr-developer-summit-on-june-8-10/ | Jun 03 20:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | The Zephyr Project Celebrates 5th Anniversary with new members and inaugural Zephyr Developer Summit on June 8-10 - Linux Foundation | Jun 03 20:13 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | linuxfoundation.org | The Zephyr Project Celebrates 5th Anniversary with new members and inaugural Zephyr Developer Summit on June 8-10 - Linux Foundation | Jun 03 20:13 |
techrights-bot | #LibreOffice #GTK4 Port: MenuButtons http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2021/06/libreoffice-gtk4-port-menubuttons.html | Jun 03 20:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-caolanm.blogspot.com | Caolán McNamara: LibreOffice GTK4 Port: MenuButtons | Jun 03 20:14 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #LibreOffice #GTK4 Port: MenuButtons http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2021/06/libreoffice-gtk4-port-menubuttons.html | Jun 03 20:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | caolanm.blogspot.com | Caolán McNamara: LibreOffice GTK4 Port: MenuButtons | Jun 03 20:14 |
techrights-bot | Hands-on: The #System76 "Launch" keyboard! (Full Review) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151125#comment-29860 | Jun 03 20:19 |
techrights-bot/fn | Hands-on: The #System76 "Launch" keyboard! (Full Review) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151125#comment-29860 | Jun 03 20:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Launches The Launch Configurable Keyboard | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Launches The Launch Configurable Keyboard | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:19 |
techrights-bot | #Slimbook #ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151832#comment-29861 | Jun 03 20:20 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Slimbook #ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151832#comment-29861 | Jun 03 20:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Ryzen Ubuntu User? Check Out This New App from Slimbook | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Ryzen Ubuntu User? Check Out This New App from Slimbook | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:20 |
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techrights-bot | #Nate Graham: #KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151905 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 20:31 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Nate Graham: #KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151905 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 20:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nate Graham: KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Nate Graham: KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:31 |
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techrights-bot | "It seems like a really nice set of features there as they said "we want as many people to be able to enjoy Sunblaze as possible" which is why they also support Linux with it too!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/loved-celeste-youre-going-to-want-to-play-brain-twisting-precision-platformer-sunblaze | Jun 03 20:32 |
techrights-bot/fn | "It seems like a really nice set of features there as they said "we want as many people to be able to enjoy Sunblaze as possible" which is why they also support Linux with it too!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/loved-celeste-youre-going-to-want-to-play-brain-twisting-precision-platformer-sunblaze | Jun 03 20:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Loved Celeste? You're going to want to play brain-twisting precision platformer Sunblaze | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 20:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Loved Celeste? You're going to want to play brain-twisting precision platformer Sunblaze | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 20:32 |
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techrights-bot | Still promoting the ruinous illusion that Signal is impenetrable https://www.xda-developers.com/signal/ | Jun 03 20:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | What is Signal and How to Use it: Everything you need to know about the secure IM service | Jun 03 20:38 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Still promoting the ruinous illusion that Signal is impenetrable https://www.xda-developers.com/signal/ | Jun 03 20:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.xda-developers.com | What is Signal and How to Use it: Everything you need to know about the secure IM service | Jun 03 20:38 |
techrights-bot | #SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog ⚓ https://blogs.akamai.com/2021/06/saml-implementation-vulnerability-impacting-some-akamai-services.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAkamaiBlog+%28The+Akamai+Blog%29 ䷉ #akamai | Jun 03 20:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.akamai.com | SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog | Jun 03 20:39 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog ⚓ https://blogs.akamai.com/2021/06/saml-implementation-vulnerability-impacting-some-akamai-services.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAkamaiBlog+%28The+Akamai+Blog%29 ䷉ #akamai | Jun 03 20:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | blogs.akamai.com | SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog | Jun 03 20:39 |
techrights-bot | #Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch https://newatlas.com/mobile-technology/huawei-harmonyos-matepad-pro-watch/ | Jun 03 20:41 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch https://newatlas.com/mobile-technology/huawei-harmonyos-matepad-pro-watch/ | Jun 03 20:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newatlas.com | Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch | Jun 03 20:41 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | newatlas.com | Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch | Jun 03 20:41 |
techrights-bot | "IBM is going to need a lot more than just RH #OpenShift and #CloudPaks to counter them. Meanwhile IBM leadership delusionally still thinks VMWare is the main competition here." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 20:43 |
techrights-bot/fn | "IBM is going to need a lot more than just RH #OpenShift and #CloudPaks to counter them. Meanwhile IBM leadership delusionally still thinks VMWare is the main competition here." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies | Jun 03 20:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:43 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBM’s worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:43 |
techrights-bot | More worthless buzzwords https://builtin.com/data-science/company-data-lake-questions | Jun 03 20:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-builtin.com | Is a Data Lake Right for Your Company? | Jun 03 20:44 | |
techrights-bot/fn | More worthless buzzwords https://builtin.com/data-science/company-data-lake-questions | Jun 03 20:44 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | builtin.com | Is a Data Lake Right for Your Company? | Jun 03 20:44 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | "Mozilla pointing at Matrix". Well, that would be a shame. | Jun 03 20:45 |
baronhk1[m] | "Mozilla pointing at Matrix". Well, that would be a shame. | Jun 03 20:45 |
baronhk1[m] | Downgrading from their self-hosted IRC to some place where people just disappear. | Jun 03 20:45 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Downgrading from their self-hosted IRC to some place where people just disappear. | Jun 03 20:45 |
techrights-bot | 16 mins ago: "Oh, man. I didn't know about them. I thought #IBM is the only leader in hybrid cloud which they try to say in every meeting. "We are the only one". Then, it's really terrible for IBM, being the first one, they are still lacking at many things." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT#replies | Jun 03 20:46 |
techrights-bot/fn | 16 mins ago: "Oh, man. I didn't know about them. I thought #IBM is the only leader in hybrid cloud which they try to say in every meeting. "We are the only one". Then, it's really terrible for IBM, being the first one, they are still lacking at many things." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT#replies | Jun 03 20:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:46 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:46 |
techrights-bot | " IBM's failure is more of a marketing failure and a presentation failure... had a more graphical environment been grafted onto 3270's (and it did exist... 3279G + GGDM... right?)... maybe history would have been different." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies | Jun 03 20:47 |
techrights-bot/fn | " IBM's failure is more of a marketing failure and a presentation failure... had a more graphical environment been grafted onto 3270's (and it did exist... 3279G + GGDM... right?)... maybe history would have been different." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies | Jun 03 20:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:47 |
techrights-bot | " #ibm is not a career company anymore, no one who's young actually wants to work here" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 20:47 |
techrights-bot/fn | " #ibm is not a career company anymore, no one who's young actually wants to work here" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies | Jun 03 20:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:47 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 20:47 |
baronhk1[m] | It's pointless to try this because you can be back up and running in about 5-6 minutes. | Jun 03 20:47 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It's pointless to try this because you can be back up and running in about 5-6 minutes. | Jun 03 20:47 |
schestowitz | baronhk1[m]: "bad actors..." | Jun 03 20:47 |
schestowitz/fn | baronhk1[m]: "bad actors..." | Jun 03 20:47 |
immibis | baronhk1[m]: you're on matrix right now | Jun 03 20:47 |
immibis/fn | baronhk1[m]: you're on matrix right now | Jun 03 20:47 |
schestowitz | immibis: after multiple bans iirc | Jun 03 20:48 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: after multiple bans iirc | Jun 03 20:48 |
baronhk1[m] | I know exactly what's happening too. | Jun 03 20:49 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | I know exactly what's happening too. | Jun 03 20:49 |
baronhk1[m] | The troll is screenshotting things he (did I use the right pronoun?) doesn't like and filing reports. | Jun 03 20:49 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The troll is screenshotting things he (did I use the right pronoun?) doesn't like and filing reports. | Jun 03 20:49 |
immibis | why didn't you defend yourself with a gun? | Jun 03 20:49 |
immibis/fn | why didn't you defend yourself with a gun? | Jun 03 20:49 |
phobos_anomaly | why didn't they do the liberal thing and call everyone racists or sexists? | Jun 03 20:50 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | why didn't they do the liberal thing and call everyone racists or sexists? | Jun 03 20:50 |
MinceR | why don't you use IRC without mixing matrix into it? | Jun 03 20:50 |
MinceR/fn | why don't you use IRC without mixing matrix into it? | Jun 03 20:50 |
baronhk1[m] | One of the mods on Matrix said in 2019 that he hopes they shut down Matrix.org at some point to get rid of the centralization. | Jun 03 20:50 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | One of the mods on Matrix said in 2019 that he hopes they shut down Matrix.org at some point to get rid of the centralization. | Jun 03 20:50 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <MinceR "why don't you use IRC without mi"> Plenty more numbers where "1" came from. | Jun 03 20:51 |
baronhk1[m] | <MinceR "why don't you use IRC without mi"> Plenty more numbers where "1" came from. | Jun 03 20:51 |
MinceR | i guess they realized that they like the centralization | Jun 03 20:51 |
MinceR/fn | i guess they realized that they like the centralization | Jun 03 20:51 |
MinceR | baronhk1[m]: a lot less interference if you don't let them mess with you, though | Jun 03 20:51 |
MinceR/fn | baronhk1[m]: a lot less interference if you don't let them mess with you, though | Jun 03 20:51 |
immibis | why don't you just use a different server? | Jun 03 20:51 |
immibis/fn | why don't you just use a different server? | Jun 03 20:51 |
immibis | or actually use IRC? | Jun 03 20:51 |
immibis/fn | or actually use IRC? | Jun 03 20:51 |
phobos_anomaly | MinceR: You are right about umbrella and how quiet it is... kinda nice... makes some networks look like riots | Jun 03 20:51 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | MinceR: You are right about umbrella and how quiet it is... kinda nice... makes some networks look like riots | Jun 03 20:51 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 03 20:51 |
MinceR/fn | :> | Jun 03 20:52 |
baronhk1[m] | Well, not all of them have bridges, and Matrix.org doesn't federate properly. | Jun 03 20:52 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Well, not all of them have bridges, and Matrix.org doesn't federate properly. | Jun 03 20:52 |
MinceR | presumably not that many matrix servers have IRC gateways | Jun 03 20:52 |
MinceR/fn | presumably not that many matrix servers have IRC gateways | Jun 03 20:52 |
baronhk1[m] | Especially with Freenode. | Jun 03 20:52 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Especially with Freenode. | Jun 03 20:52 |
baronhk1[m] | Ironic, since we're dealing with mods that are like-minded with Garrett. They should be seeing a psychiatrist. | Jun 03 20:53 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Ironic, since we're dealing with mods that are like-minded with Garrett. They should be seeing a psychiatrist. | Jun 03 20:53 |
immibis | why don't you just use IRC directly so there's one less point to ban you? | Jun 03 20:53 |
immibis/fn | why don't you just use IRC directly so there's one less point to ban you? | Jun 03 20:53 |
phobos_anomaly | I'd rather put up with the mods like eskimo that claim to know less than nothing | Jun 03 20:53 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | I'd rather put up with the mods like eskimo that claim to know less than nothing | Jun 03 20:53 |
baronhk1[m] | Bridges, brought to you by folks whose bridge doesn't entirely cross the moat. | Jun 03 20:53 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Bridges, brought to you by folks whose bridge doesn't entirely cross the moat. | Jun 03 20:53 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 03 20:53 |
MinceR/fn | lol | Jun 03 20:53 |
MinceR | "I'm telling you Teal'c, If we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it... Lose it, it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" | Jun 03 20:54 |
MinceR/fn | "I'm telling you Teal'c, If we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it... Lose it, it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" | Jun 03 20:54 |
XRevan86 | baronhk1[m]: I caught the wind saying that mjg59 never reported you to Matrix.org | Jun 03 20:54 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] baronhk1[m]: I caught the wind saying that mjg59 never reported you to Matrix.org | Jun 03 20:54 |
baronhk1[m] | <immibis "why don't you just use IRC direc"> I don't care if they do at this point. It's a lesson for them in how fucking pointless bans that can't be enforced are. | Jun 03 20:55 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <immibis "why don't you just use IRC direc"> I don't care if they do at this point. It's a lesson for them in how fucking pointless bans that can't be enforced are. | Jun 03 20:55 |
phobos_anomaly | whack a mole | Jun 03 20:55 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | whack a mole | Jun 03 20:55 |
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techrights-bot | CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN and HEY HI... or smart HEY HI https://www.siliconrepublic.com/advice/cloud-engineers-skills | Jun 03 20:56 |
techrights-bot/fn | CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN and HEY HI... or smart HEY HI https://www.siliconrepublic.com/advice/cloud-engineers-skills | Jun 03 20:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.siliconrepublic.com | What are the most important skills for cloud engineers? | Jun 03 20:56 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.siliconrepublic.com | What are the most important skills for cloud engineers? | Jun 03 20:56 |
baronhk1[m] | <MinceR ""I'm telling you Teal'c, If we d"> Three fries short is actually quite a lot these days, with inflation and all. | Jun 03 20:56 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <MinceR ""I'm telling you Teal'c, If we d"> Three fries short is actually quite a lot these days, with inflation and all. | Jun 03 20:56 |
MinceR | :> | Jun 03 20:56 |
MinceR/fn | :> | Jun 03 20:56 |
baronhk1[m] | The lunatics are running the asylum. Handing out free money to parasites. | Jun 03 20:57 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The lunatics are running the asylum. Handing out free money to parasites. | Jun 03 20:57 |
baronhk1[m] | An order of fries at McDonalds is $4. | Jun 03 20:57 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | An order of fries at McDonalds is $4. | Jun 03 20:57 |
immibis | ah yes. gotta put myself through extra unnecessary inconvenience to teach those libs a lesson | Jun 03 20:57 |
immibis/fn | ah yes. gotta put myself through extra unnecessary inconvenience to teach those libs a lesson | Jun 03 20:57 |
baronhk1[m] | Garrett must be so happy with himself. | Jun 03 20:57 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Garrett must be so happy with himself. | Jun 03 20:57 |
techrights-bot | Some of these are #freesw https://www.techradar.com/best/cpanel-alternatives | Jun 03 20:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best cPanel alternatives: DirectAdmin, Plesk, SPanel, Webmin and more | TechRadar | Jun 03 20:57 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Some of these are #freesw https://www.techradar.com/best/cpanel-alternatives | Jun 03 20:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Best cPanel alternatives: DirectAdmin, Plesk, SPanel, Webmin and more | TechRadar | Jun 03 20:57 |
baronhk1[m] | MinceR: They're trying to convince people who can't do math that we're not dealing with a troubling amount of inflation. | Jun 03 20:58 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | MinceR: They're trying to convince people who can't do math that we're not dealing with a troubling amount of inflation. | Jun 03 20:58 |
baronhk1[m] | It's just that for some strange reason, the cost of everything has gone up 10-30% in like a year. | Jun 03 20:58 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It's just that for some strange reason, the cost of everything has gone up 10-30% in like a year. | Jun 03 20:58 |
techrights-bot | Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com ⚓ https://www.htmlgoodies.com/javascript/parsing-date-time-luxon/ ䷉ #htmlgoodies | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 20:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com | Jun 03 20:58 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com ⚓ https://www.htmlgoodies.com/javascript/parsing-date-time-luxon/ ䷉ #htmlgoodies | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 20:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 20:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com | Jun 03 20:58 |
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baronhk1[m] | It's not their problem. The Democrats have finally managed to cause the majority of people who graduate Chicago Public Schools to not understand basic math. | Jun 03 20:59 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It's not their problem. The Democrats have finally managed to cause the majority of people who graduate Chicago Public Schools to not understand basic math. | Jun 03 20:59 |
phobos_anomaly | and California | Jun 03 20:59 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | and California | Jun 03 20:59 |
baronhk1[m] | So now they can do whatever they want to the public with no panic. | Jun 03 20:59 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | So now they can do whatever they want to the public with no panic. | Jun 03 20:59 |
phobos_anomaly | which has some school districts actively working to ban math because... racism or something | Jun 03 21:00 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | which has some school districts actively working to ban math because... racism or something | Jun 03 21:00 |
phobos_anomaly | https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/05/19/california-radicals-say-math-is-racist-set-out-to-cancel-it-in-public-schools-n1448096 | Jun 03 21:01 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/05/19/california-radicals-say-math-is-racist-set-out-to-cancel-it-in-public-schools-n1448096 | Jun 03 21:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pjmedia.com | California Radicals Trying to Cancel Math Instruction – PJ Media | Jun 03 21:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | pjmedia.com | California Radicals Trying to Cancel Math Instruction – PJ Media | Jun 03 21:01 |
techrights-bot | Google India IT Rules: #Google claims new #India IT rules not applicable to its search engine ⚓ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/google-claims-new-india-it-rules-not-applicable-to-its-search-engine/83169358 ䷉ | Jun 03 21:01 |
techrights-bot/fn | Google India IT Rules: #Google claims new #India IT rules not applicable to its search engine ⚓ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/google-claims-new-india-it-rules-not-applicable-to-its-search-engine/83169358 ䷉ | Jun 03 21:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Google India IT Rules: Google claims new India IT rules not applicable to its search engine, IT News, ET CIO | Jun 03 21:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Google India IT Rules: Google claims new India IT rules not applicable to its search engine, IT News, ET CIO | Jun 03 21:01 |
baronhk1[m] | Math be al rayciss 'n sheeit. | Jun 03 21:01 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Math be al rayciss 'n sheeit. | Jun 03 21:01 |
baronhk1[m] | They need another month to teach anti-white hate anyway. | Jun 03 21:02 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | They need another month to teach anti-white hate anyway. | Jun 03 21:02 |
phobos_anomaly | why can't they teach useful stuff... like daily life in a communist society to prepare them for what will happen if the current majorities in the USA get their way | Jun 03 21:03 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | why can't they teach useful stuff... like daily life in a communist society to prepare them for what will happen if the current majorities in the USA get their way | Jun 03 21:03 |
baronhk1[m] | Most people are ready for California to fall into the ocean anyway. Hopefully with Garrett there at the time. | Jun 03 21:03 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Most people are ready for California to fall into the ocean anyway. Hopefully with Garrett there at the time. | Jun 03 21:03 |
phobos_anomaly | merely ready? I would have thought they'd be on the verge of trying to plant explosives in the San Andreas to preempt Mother Nature, Precarious hand of fate, blah blah | Jun 03 21:04 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | merely ready? I would have thought they'd be on the verge of trying to plant explosives in the San Andreas to preempt Mother Nature, Precarious hand of fate, blah blah | Jun 03 21:04 |
CrystalMath | hmm, purging math or purging racism from math, that article doesn't seem to clarify | Jun 03 21:04 |
CrystalMath/fn | hmm, purging math or purging racism from math, that article doesn't seem to clarify | Jun 03 21:04 |
baronhk1[m] | Which part of math is racist? | Jun 03 21:05 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Which part of math is racist? | Jun 03 21:05 |
CrystalMath | i guess i could think of maybe, the claim that Newton invented the method for approximating a square root, since middle easterners had it thousands of years ago | Jun 03 21:05 |
CrystalMath/fn | i guess i could think of maybe, the claim that Newton invented the method for approximating a square root, since middle easterners had it thousands of years ago | Jun 03 21:05 |
baronhk1[m] | Please show your work. 😁 | Jun 03 21:05 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Please show your work. 😁 | Jun 03 21:05 |
CrystalMath | i mean this is very well known | Jun 03 21:05 |
CrystalMath/fn | i mean this is very well known | Jun 03 21:05 |
CrystalMath | and some in fact do say the babylonian method | Jun 03 21:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | and some in fact do say the babylonian method | Jun 03 21:06 |
techrights-bot | #ProprietarySoftware / #Microsoft Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151907 #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software/Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:06 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #ProprietarySoftware / #Microsoft Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151907 #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software/Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:06 |
CrystalMath | but yeah, weak example | Jun 03 21:06 |
CrystalMath/fn | but yeah, weak example | Jun 03 21:06 |
techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151906 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:06 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151906 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:06 |
CrystalMath | idk | Jun 03 21:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:06 | |
CrystalMath/fn | idk | Jun 03 21:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:06 |
baronhk1[m] | I rather think that someone noticed that certain folks are incapable of understanding it and are busy selling drugs, pimping, and carjacking people anyway. | Jun 03 21:06 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | I rather think that someone noticed that certain folks are incapable of understanding it and are busy selling drugs, pimping, and carjacking people anyway. | Jun 03 21:06 |
baronhk1[m] | So it's not much use to them unless they need to estimate how many years in prison they'd get if Kim Foxx wasn't the State's Attorney of Cook County, Illinois. | Jun 03 21:07 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | So it's not much use to them unless they need to estimate how many years in prison they'd get if Kim Foxx wasn't the State's Attorney of Cook County, Illinois. | Jun 03 21:07 |
phobos_anomaly | lol | Jun 03 21:08 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | lol | Jun 03 21:08 |
baronhk1[m] | The recent flare up in violent crime in Chicago is no coincidence. | Jun 03 21:09 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The recent flare up in violent crime in Chicago is no coincidence. | Jun 03 21:09 |
baronhk1[m] | Marijuana was legalized because the state wanted the taxes. | Jun 03 21:09 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Marijuana was legalized because the state wanted the taxes. | Jun 03 21:09 |
baronhk1[m] | Violence has been on the rise ever since then, because the Democrat Paradise has 40% unemployment and selling baggies of weed was all there was to do for money in many cases. | Jun 03 21:10 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Violence has been on the rise ever since then, because the Democrat Paradise has 40% unemployment and selling baggies of weed was all there was to do for money in many cases. | Jun 03 21:10 |
techrights-bot | #greenwashing of #bitcoin (the cause of much #pollution actually) https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/06/02/2240873/0/en/Bitcoin-Latinum-Announces-Groundbreaking-Green-Initiative-and-Launch-Plans.html | Jun 03 21:11 |
baronhk1[m] | The Democrats set it all up so that the weed shops are all white-owned, and by the time they get around to processing any licenses submitted by black or brown people, the 1,500 foot ban from any existing shop will apply. | Jun 03 21:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Bitcoin Latinum Announces Groundbreaking Green Initiative | Jun 03 21:11 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #greenwashing of #bitcoin (the cause of much #pollution actually) https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/06/02/2240873/0/en/Bitcoin-Latinum-Announces-Groundbreaking-Green-Initiative-and-Launch-Plans.html | Jun 03 21:11 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The Democrats set it all up so that the weed shops are all white-owned, and by the time they get around to processing any licenses submitted by black or brown people, the 1,500 foot ban from any existing shop will apply. | Jun 03 21:11 |
CrystalMath | these days baronhk1[m] is further to the right than me :P | Jun 03 21:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.globenewswire.com | Bitcoin Latinum Announces Groundbreaking Green Initiative | Jun 03 21:11 |
CrystalMath/fn | these days baronhk1[m] is further to the right than me :P | Jun 03 21:11 |
baronhk1[m] | So there won't be anywhere left to open one. | Jun 03 21:11 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | So there won't be anywhere left to open one. | Jun 03 21:11 |
baronhk1[m] | Then they went one further and made it illegal to hire anyone to work in one if they have any criminal convictions. | Jun 03 21:11 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Then they went one further and made it illegal to hire anyone to work in one if they have any criminal convictions. | Jun 03 21:11 |
schestowitz | it's not about tech, baronhk1[m] | Jun 03 21:12 |
schestowitz/fn | it's not about tech, baronhk1[m] | Jun 03 21:12 |
schestowitz | let's keep focused | Jun 03 21:12 |
schestowitz/fn | let's keep focused | Jun 03 21:12 |
techrights-bot | #LG allows others to use its #freesoftware management tool • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151908 Holy crap, bloatware! The front page of #koreaherald is 25+ MB in size! For one page! | Jun 03 21:13 |
techrights-bot/fn | #LG allows others to use its #freesoftware management tool • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151908 Holy crap, bloatware! The front page of #koreaherald is 25+ MB in size! For one page! | Jun 03 21:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LG allows others to use its open source software management tool | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:13 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | LG allows others to use its open source software management tool | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:13 |
baronhk1[m] | I'm surprised that Garrett gets away with what he does. Everywhere his favored politics are in play in the United States are where crime and unemployment are out of control and the situation for minorities could literally not be worse. | Jun 03 21:13 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | I'm surprised that Garrett gets away with what he does. Everywhere his favored politics are in play in the United States are where crime and unemployment are out of control and the situation for minorities could literally not be worse. | Jun 03 21:13 |
baronhk1[m] | Yet, he displays the worst case of doublethink I believe I have ever seen. | Jun 03 21:13 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Yet, he displays the worst case of doublethink I believe I have ever seen. | Jun 03 21:13 |
baronhk1[m] | If you blew away all of Garrett's policies, the situation would be much better for everyone. A rising tide that lifts all boats, so to speak. | Jun 03 21:14 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | If you blew away all of Garrett's policies, the situation would be much better for everyone. A rising tide that lifts all boats, so to speak. | Jun 03 21:14 |
immibis | any position on drugs other than full legalization is anti-freedom | Jun 03 21:15 |
immibis/fn | any position on drugs other than full legalization is anti-freedom | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz | MinceR: are you on it? | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz/fn | MinceR: are you on it? | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz | immibis: there's the access to consultation approach | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: there's the access to consultation approach | Jun 03 21:15 |
immibis | what is that approach? | Jun 03 21:15 |
immibis/fn | what is that approach? | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz | wherein you try to help people get off narcotics | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz/fn | wherein you try to help people get off narcotics | Jun 03 21:15 |
baronhk1[m] | You lose the job-killing taxes and regulations, and some civil rights laws that every employer has figured out ways around anyway. If you don't believe me, ask any elderly person how the job hunt goes. It's illegal to do age discrimination. | Jun 03 21:15 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | You lose the job-killing taxes and regulations, and some civil rights laws that every employer has figured out ways around anyway. If you don't believe me, ask any elderly person how the job hunt goes. It's illegal to do age discrimination. | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz | without treating it as a crime | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz/fn | without treating it as a crime | Jun 03 21:15 |
baronhk1[m] | Someone should say that to IBM, Microsoft, and Intel. | Jun 03 21:15 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Someone should say that to IBM, Microsoft, and Intel. | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz | but mass production and distribution of narcotics remains very problematic | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz/fn | but mass production and distribution of narcotics remains very problematic | Jun 03 21:15 |
schestowitz | so you can regulate it somewhat | Jun 03 21:16 |
schestowitz/fn | so you can regulate it somewhat | Jun 03 21:16 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It's not a mystery where opioids are coming from. They just don't care. | Jun 03 21:16 |
baronhk1[m] | It's not a mystery where opioids are coming from. They just don't care. | Jun 03 21:16 |
immibis | regulating distribution, other than the usual food/drug regulations like not lacing it with stuff, is anti-freedom | Jun 03 21:17 |
immibis/fn | regulating distribution, other than the usual food/drug regulations like not lacing it with stuff, is anti-freedom | Jun 03 21:17 |
techrights-bot | #LinuxFoundation Fluff • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151909 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:18 |
techrights-bot/fn | #LinuxFoundation Fluff • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151909 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:18 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:18 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▅▄▅▅▄▃▃▅▆▄▆▄▁▅▅▄▅▁▇▂▆▅▆▅▃▄▅▂▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 22.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▃█▃▂▁█▂█▂▂▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 55.30▕ swarm size (avg): 237.46 ⟲ | Jun 03 21:18 |
techrights-ipfs/fn | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▅▄▅▅▄▃▃▅▆▄▆▄▁▅▅▄▅▁▇▂▆▅▆▅▃▄▅▂▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 22.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▃█▃▂▁█▂█▂▂▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 55.30▕ swarm size (avg): 237.46 ⟲ | Jun 03 21:18 |
schestowitz | immibis: when you have large unregulated and unlicensed meth factories selling it on the cheap it leads to trouble | Jun 03 21:18 |
schestowitz/fn | immibis: when you have large unregulated and unlicensed meth factories selling it on the cheap it leads to trouble | Jun 03 21:18 |
schestowitz | so then you need to decide what to do... | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz/fn | so then you need to decide what to do... | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz | even alcohol is regulated | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz/fn | even alcohol is regulated | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz | in many ways | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz/fn | in many ways | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz | who can buy, when, how much, where you can go while drunk, whether driving if permitted etc. | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz/fn | who can buy, when, how much, where you can go while drunk, whether driving if permitted etc. | Jun 03 21:19 |
immibis | which is no different from large unregulated and unlicensed food factories, and the same regulations should apply, i.e. purify it properly and don't put extra toxic substances in it | Jun 03 21:19 |
immibis/fn | which is no different from large unregulated and unlicensed food factories, and the same regulations should apply, i.e. purify it properly and don't put extra toxic substances in it | Jun 03 21:19 |
schestowitz | food is also regulated | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz/fn | food is also regulated | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz | expiry dates and all | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz/fn | expiry dates and all | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz | maybe you oppose that too | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe you oppose that too | Jun 03 21:20 |
immibis | and that alcohol regulation is anti-freedom, and far less-"freedumby" places than the USA have far less regulations on alcohol, and for some reason the republicans don't complain about it, in fact sometimes they demand more | Jun 03 21:20 |
immibis/fn | and that alcohol regulation is anti-freedom, and far less-"freedumby" places than the USA have far less regulations on alcohol, and for some reason the republicans don't complain about it, in fact sometimes they demand more | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz | FSA in the UK regulated eateries also | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz/fn | FSA in the UK regulated eateries also | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz | it's because experience showed lack of regulation leads to bad outcomes | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz/fn | it's because experience showed lack of regulation leads to bad outcomes | Jun 03 21:20 |
schestowitz | as a pedestrian too I would not like drunk drivers to knock cars into things | Jun 03 21:21 |
schestowitz/fn | as a pedestrian too I would not like drunk drivers to knock cars into things | Jun 03 21:21 |
schestowitz | because your 'freedom' as a driver is a fist or punch in my face | Jun 03 21:21 |
schestowitz/fn | because your 'freedom' as a driver is a fist or punch in my face | Jun 03 21:21 |
immibis | that's a driving regulation | Jun 03 21:21 |
immibis/fn | that's a driving regulation | Jun 03 21:21 |
schestowitz | against freedom, according to you | Jun 03 21:23 |
schestowitz/fn | against freedom, according to you | Jun 03 21:23 |
schestowitz_log | INPIUtheyet's0/ | Jun 03 21:24 |
schestowitz_log/fn | INPIUtheyet's0/ | Jun 03 21:24 |
schestowitz | wrong window | Jun 03 21:24 |
schestowitz/fn | wrong window | Jun 03 21:24 |
immibis/fn | schestowitz: I said drug regulations were anti-freedom, not alcohol regulations, and I didn't even say all drug regulations were anti-freedom, just the excessive ones compared to other consumable substances | Jun 03 21:25 |
immibis | schestowitz: I said drug regulations were anti-freedom, not alcohol regulations, and I didn't even say all drug regulations were anti-freedom, just the excessive ones compared to other consumable substances | Jun 03 21:25 |
schestowitz | libertarian machoism is promoted by the Kochs and others | Jun 03 21:25 |
schestowitz/fn | libertarian machoism is promoted by the Kochs and others | Jun 03 21:25 |
schestowitz | to keep regulators away while they kill the planet | Jun 03 21:25 |
schestowitz/fn | to keep regulators away while they kill the planet | Jun 03 21:25 |
techrights-bot | #OpenHardware : #CMSIS and #Arduino • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151910 #sharing #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:27 |
techrights-bot/fn | #OpenHardware : #CMSIS and #Arduino • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151910 #sharing #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: CMSIS and Arduino | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:27 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: CMSIS and Arduino | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:27 |
MinceR | schestowitz: am i on what? | Jun 03 21:29 |
MinceR/fn | schestowitz: am i on what? | Jun 03 21:29 |
schestowitz | I thought you were becoming op in the other networks so we can restore the bridge without the saboteur in there | Jun 03 21:29 |
schestowitz/fn | I thought you were becoming op in the other networks so we can restore the bridge without the saboteur in there | Jun 03 21:29 |
CrystalMath | immibis: i agree with you on that stuff | Jun 03 21:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | immibis: i agree with you on that stuff | Jun 03 21:30 |
schestowitz | I don't even know if anything at all happens in that network | Jun 03 21:30 |
schestowitz/fn | I don't even know if anything at all happens in that network | Jun 03 21:30 |
MinceR | schestowitz: #techrights is not registered on libera | Jun 03 21:30 |
MinceR/fn | schestowitz: #techrights is not registered on libera | Jun 03 21:30 |
CrystalMath | schestowitz: why care about that place? | Jun 03 21:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | schestowitz: why care about that place? | Jun 03 21:30 |
techrights-bot | #Devices : Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, #AstroPi • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151911 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:30 |
techrights-bot/fn | #Devices : Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, #AstroPi • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151911 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 21:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, Astro Pi | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:30 | |
MinceR | CrystalMath: tilting at windmills | Jun 03 21:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, Astro Pi | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:30 |
MinceR/fn | CrystalMath: tilting at windmills | Jun 03 21:30 |
CrystalMath | as the topic says, "support freenode" | Jun 03 21:30 |
CrystalMath/fn | as the topic says, "support freenode" | Jun 03 21:30 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: what do you mean? | Jun 03 21:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | MinceR: what do you mean? | Jun 03 21:31 |
schestowitz | I was given the impression they were gossiping there, maybe to make us look bad, using our own name | Jun 03 21:31 |
schestowitz/fn | I was given the impression they were gossiping there, maybe to make us look bad, using our own name | Jun 03 21:31 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: "but what if someone else registers it and smears our name" | Jun 03 21:31 |
MinceR/fn | CrystalMath: "but what if someone else registers it and smears our name" | Jun 03 21:31 |
schestowitz | which can then mislead and alienate people who think that's us | Jun 03 21:31 |
schestowitz/fn | which can then mislead and alienate people who think that's us | Jun 03 21:31 |
superkuh | The topic says support freenode? | Jun 03 21:31 |
tr-bridge | [superkuh/tr] The topic says support freenode? | Jun 03 21:31 |
MinceR | there are at least 497 irc networks | Jun 03 21:31 |
MinceR/fn | there are at least 497 irc networks | Jun 03 21:31 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm watching it right now, they're talking about political philosophy. | Jun 03 21:31 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'm watching it right now, they're talking about political philosophy. | Jun 03 21:31 |
CrystalMath | superkuh: correct | Jun 03 21:31 |
CrystalMath/fn | superkuh: correct | Jun 03 21:31 |
*superkuh has quit (Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer) | Jun 03 21:31 | |
schestowitz | XRevan86: why using our name? | Jun 03 21:32 |
schestowitz/fn | XRevan86: why using our name? | Jun 03 21:32 |
CrystalMath | superkuh: freenode is good, and techrights knows it, techrights always takes the right side tbh, except when a certain sysadmin decides to mess it up | Jun 03 21:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | superkuh: freenode is good, and techrights knows it, techrights always takes the right side tbh, except when a certain sysadmin decides to mess it up | Jun 03 21:32 |
phobos_anomaly | did anyone find out who is hosting freenode.net ? | Jun 03 21:32 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | did anyone find out who is hosting freenode.net ? | Jun 03 21:32 |
CrystalMath | phobos_anomaly: behind clownflare? :P | Jun 03 21:32 |
CrystalMath/fn | phobos_anomaly: behind clownflare? :P | Jun 03 21:32 |
phobos_anomaly | yeah, that one | Jun 03 21:32 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | yeah, that one | Jun 03 21:32 |
schestowitz | it can run on a toaster | Jun 03 21:33 |
schestowitz/fn | it can run on a toaster | Jun 03 21:33 |
schestowitz | as it's outsourcing all the traffic to a dodgy third party anyway | Jun 03 21:33 |
schestowitz/fn | as it's outsourcing all the traffic to a dodgy third party anyway | Jun 03 21:33 |
schestowitz | just needs to feed some static pages to clownflare once in a while | Jun 03 21:33 |
schestowitz/fn | just needs to feed some static pages to clownflare once in a while | Jun 03 21:33 |
baronhk1[m] | <schestowitz "to keep regulators away while th"> Well, things like Bill's reactor investment couldn't work without low interest loans and grants from taxpayers and climate panic. | Jun 03 21:33 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <schestowitz "to keep regulators away while th"> Well, things like Bill's reactor investment couldn't work without low interest loans and grants from taxpayers and climate panic. | Jun 03 21:33 |
phobos_anomaly | Everyone I've talked to that would know either feigns ignorance, shuts up, or gives some bad info | Jun 03 21:33 |
phobos_anomaly/fn | Everyone I've talked to that would know either feigns ignorance, shuts up, or gives some bad info | Jun 03 21:33 |
schestowitz | baronhk1[m]: hey steals taxpayers' money in many other ways | Jun 03 21:34 |
schestowitz/fn | baronhk1[m]: hey steals taxpayers' money in many other ways | Jun 03 21:34 |
baronhk1[m] | They're putting the first one in Wyoming. The state has a fairly Libertarian swing to it, but they recognize federal pork when they get it. | Jun 03 21:34 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | They're putting the first one in Wyoming. The state has a fairly Libertarian swing to it, but they recognize federal pork when they get it. | Jun 03 21:34 |
schestowitz | I wrote about this a lot a decade or more ago | Jun 03 21:34 |
schestowitz/fn | I wrote about this a lot a decade or more ago | Jun 03 21:34 |
schestowitz | the governments line his pockets | Jun 03 21:34 |
schestowitz/fn | the governments line his pockets | Jun 03 21:34 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: The centre of discussion is a person that was muted on the freenode side for uncertain reasons. | Jun 03 21:34 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The centre of discussion is a person that was muted on the freenode side for uncertain reasons. | Jun 03 21:34 |
schestowitz | so it's basically a discussion about an anti-TR troll | Jun 03 21:35 |
schestowitz/fn | so it's basically a discussion about an anti-TR troll | Jun 03 21:35 |
schestowitz | the only one we muted after about half a year of abuse and defamation | Jun 03 21:35 |
schestowitz/fn | the only one we muted after about half a year of abuse and defamation | Jun 03 21:35 |
schestowitz | so after google it's a full-time troll exploiting the "victim card" | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz/fn | so after google it's a full-time troll exploiting the "victim card" | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz | by trolling a site | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz/fn | by trolling a site | Jun 03 21:36 |
CrystalMath | schestowitz: btw, have you heard from Leah Rowe? | Jun 03 21:36 |
CrystalMath/fn | schestowitz: btw, have you heard from Leah Rowe? | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz | and then going to some channel named after it | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz/fn | and then going to some channel named after it | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz | CrystalMath: yes | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz/fn | CrystalMath: yes | Jun 03 21:36 |
schestowitz | actually a little overwhelmed to learn how many read the site | Jun 03 21:49 |
schestowitz/fn | actually a little overwhelmed to learn how many read the site | Jun 03 21:49 |
schestowitz | inc. people I know from a distance | Jun 03 21:49 |
schestowitz/fn | inc. people I know from a distance | Jun 03 21:49 |
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techrights-bot | Links 3/6/2021: Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta, NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/pop_os-21-04-beta/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/pop_os-21-04-beta/ | Jun 03 21:56 |
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TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Links 3/6/2021: Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta, NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released | Techrights | Jun 03 21:56 |
schestowitz | OK, links done | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz/fn | OK, links done | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz | now, let's belatedly do some articles :/ | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz/fn | now, let's belatedly do some articles :/ | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz | what a crazy day it has been | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz/fn | what a crazy day it has been | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz | shift (work) 1-9am, home network connection, some IRC stuff... didn't manage to do much :(( | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz/fn | shift (work) 1-9am, home network connection, some IRC stuff... didn't manage to do much :(( | Jun 03 21:57 |
schestowitz | due to all this chaos we did some improvements, still | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz/fn | due to all this chaos we did some improvements, still | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz | rianne now works with two machines in tandem | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz/fn | rianne now works with two machines in tandem | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz | she experimented with it before, but didn't stick, dual head was enough | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz/fn | she experimented with it before, but didn't stick, dual head was enough | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz | I also managed to get 4 laptops connected with one mouse and keyboard now | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz/fn | I also managed to get 4 laptops connected with one mouse and keyboard now | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz | the other mice became stale | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz/fn | the other mice became stale | Jun 03 21:59 |
schestowitz | so hopefully those improvements will be worthwhile long-term investment of time | Jun 03 22:00 |
schestowitz/fn | so hopefully those improvements will be worthwhile long-term investment of time | Jun 03 22:00 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1400368568630321155 | Jun 03 22:03 |
schestowitz/fn | https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1400368568630321155 | Jun 03 22:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @schestowitz You keep claiming that I'm defaming people (by, uh, accurately reporting what they say?) but you toler… https://t.co/eL1LvCmrgt | Jun 03 22:03 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | @mjg59: @schestowitz You keep claiming that I'm defaming people (by, uh, accurately reporting what they say?) but you toler… https://t.co/eL1LvCmrgt | Jun 03 22:03 |
schestowitz | "You keep claiming that I'm defaming people (by, uh, accurately reporting what they say?) but you tolerate this sort of content on the IRC channel you run. Why?" | Jun 03 22:03 |
schestowitz/fn | "You keep claiming that I'm defaming people (by, uh, accurately reporting what they say?) but you tolerate this sort of content on the IRC channel you run. Why?" | Jun 03 22:03 |
schestowitz | Xrevan: did he and 'his ilk' hijack the channel so to speak in LC? | Jun 03 22:04 |
schestowitz/fn | Xrevan: did he and 'his ilk' hijack the channel so to speak in LC? | Jun 03 22:04 |
schestowitz | If so, it's misuse of the name | Jun 03 22:04 |
schestowitz/fn | If so, it's misuse of the name | Jun 03 22:04 |
schestowitz | to push anti-TR messages in a channel that people wrong assume is us | Jun 03 22:04 |
schestowitz/fn | to push anti-TR messages in a channel that people wrong assume is us | Jun 03 22:04 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, he didn't speak. He only wrote one message. | Jun 03 22:05 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: No, he didn't speak. He only wrote one message. | Jun 03 22:05 |
schestowitz | ok | Jun 03 22:05 |
schestowitz/fn | ok | Jun 03 22:05 |
XRevan86 | oh, actually, three, missed the other two | Jun 03 22:05 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] oh, actually, three, missed the other two | Jun 03 22:05 |
schestowitz | my understanding is that a two-way bridge would be mostly harmless assuming he's not there or inactive | Jun 03 22:05 |
schestowitz/fn | my understanding is that a two-way bridge would be mostly harmless assuming he's not there or inactive | Jun 03 22:05 |
XRevan86 | (19:54:06) mjg59: (I have never reported Ryan to any Matrix admins) | Jun 03 22:05 |
XRevan86 | (20:46:25) mjg59: I'm extremely confused why Roy seems to think I'm unemployed | Jun 03 22:05 |
XRevan86 | (20:48:40) mjg59: I started my new job the day after I left Google | Jun 03 22:05 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] (19:54:06) mjg59: (I have never reported Ryan to any Matrix admins) | Jun 03 22:05 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] (20:46:25) mjg59: I'm extremely confused why Roy seems to think I'm unemployed | Jun 03 22:05 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] (20:48:40) mjg59: I started my new job the day after I left Google | Jun 03 22:05 |
schestowitz | he doesn't even say where | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz/fn | he doesn't even say where | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz | so one can guess | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz/fn | so one can guess | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz | aurora inno | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz/fn | aurora inno | Jun 03 22:06 |
XRevan86 | (21:06:16) mjg59: It's in my Twitter bio | Jun 03 22:06 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] (21:06:16) mjg59: It's in my Twitter bio | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz | some self-driving thing | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz/fn | some self-driving thing | Jun 03 22:06 |
schestowitz | wait, the bridge leads there, outwards only? | Jun 03 22:07 |
schestowitz/fn | wait, the bridge leads there, outwards only? | Jun 03 22:07 |
schestowitz | and time gmt-1? | Jun 03 22:07 |
schestowitz/fn | and time gmt-1? | Jun 03 22:07 |
schestowitz | if so, I suppose no harm done as we're publishing logs anyway regardless | Jun 03 22:08 |
schestowitz/fn | if so, I suppose no harm done as we're publishing logs anyway regardless | Jun 03 22:08 |
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schestowitz | anyway, on we move... can't believe how many hours were spend on technical issues today :/ | Jun 03 22:08 |
schestowitz/fn | anyway, on we move... can't believe how many hours were spend on technical issues today :/ | Jun 03 22:08 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: mjg59 is in irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 22:09 |
tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: mjg59 is in irc.techrights.org | Jun 03 22:09 |
schestowitz | oh, i see... | Jun 03 22:09 |
schestowitz/fn | oh, i see... | Jun 03 22:09 |
Aspie96 | GCC updated its mission statement. | Jun 03 22:09 |
Aspie96/fn | GCC updated its mission statement. | Jun 03 22:09 |
Aspie96 | https://gcc.gnu.org/gccmission.html | Jun 03 22:09 |
Aspie96/fn | https://gcc.gnu.org/gccmission.html | Jun 03 22:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | GCC Development Mission Statement (2021-06-01) - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Jun 03 22:09 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | gcc.gnu.org | GCC Development Mission Statement (2021-06-01) - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Jun 03 22:09 |
gustaf | CrystalMath: just a feedbck, I did request the channel that was hijacked to be reinstated, but the ops team didn't believe it merited a single-hash status, so the channel, registered in 2006, is now gone forever | Jun 03 22:09 |
gustaf/fn | CrystalMath: just a feedbck, I did request the channel that was hijacked to be reinstated, but the ops team didn't believe it merited a single-hash status, so the channel, registered in 2006, is now gone forever | Jun 03 22:09 |
schestowitz | maybe they'll defect to the fake "GNU" | Jun 03 22:09 |
schestowitz/fn | maybe they'll defect to the fake "GNU" | Jun 03 22:09 |
Aspie96 | After the recent update, which was done inconsistently with the mission statement. | Jun 03 22:09 |
Aspie96/fn | After the recent update, which was done inconsistently with the mission statement. | Jun 03 22:09 |
CrystalMath | gustaf: yeah it was probably against the rules the entire time | Jun 03 22:09 |
CrystalMath/fn | gustaf: yeah it was probably against the rules the entire time | Jun 03 22:09 |
schestowitz | since it seems people like to hijack names of things which they attack | Jun 03 22:09 |
schestowitz/fn | since it seems people like to hijack names of things which they attack | Jun 03 22:09 |
CrystalMath | gustaf: freenode has a rule about # and ## channels | Jun 03 22:10 |
CrystalMath/fn | gustaf: freenode has a rule about # and ## channels | Jun 03 22:10 |
gustaf | yeah sure | Jun 03 22:10 |
gustaf/fn | yeah sure | Jun 03 22:10 |
schestowitz | imagine if we registered #novell | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz/fn | imagine if we registered #novell | Jun 03 22:11 |
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schestowitz | and then misled people who come there for support | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz/fn | and then misled people who come there for support | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz | telling them how awful novell was | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz/fn | telling them how awful novell was | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz | we used boycottnovell | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz/fn | we used boycottnovell | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz | which avoids the trademark issues | Jun 03 22:11 |
schestowitz/fn | which avoids the trademark issues | Jun 03 22:11 |
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techrights-bot | #Rescuezilla 2.2 Supports Disk Cloning and NFS/SSH Shares, It’s Based on Ubuntu 21.04 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151916 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 22:20 |
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MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/20/2802925fdc580b93.jpg | Jun 03 22:21 |
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techrights-bot | "Someone posted about this in ama-jim and the bluebirds are dismissing ECS because “it’s not Kubernetes.” LMAO. They’re so clueless." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT | Jun 03 22:49 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Someone posted about this in ama-jim and the bluebirds are dismissing ECS because “it’s not Kubernetes.” LMAO. They’re so clueless." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT | Jun 03 22:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 22:49 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 22:49 |
baronhk1[m] | Imagine if Stargate happened ten years later. That Vagina Monologues scene with Teal'c wouldn't have gone over well. | Jun 03 22:49 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Imagine if Stargate happened ten years later. That Vagina Monologues scene with Teal'c wouldn't have gone over well. | Jun 03 22:49 |
baronhk1[m] | <schestowitz "so one can guess"> Microsoft maybe, like Miguel. | Jun 03 22:52 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <schestowitz "so one can guess"> Microsoft maybe, like Miguel. | Jun 03 22:52 |
techrights-bot | #RedHat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesn’t Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ | Jun 03 22:52 |
techrights-bot/fn | #RedHat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesn’t Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ | Jun 03 22:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesn’t Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights | Jun 03 22:52 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesn’t Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights | Jun 03 22:52 |
schestowitz | Miguel is even pissing off Mexicans now | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz/fn | Miguel is even pissing off Mexicans now | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz | like the Nitrux devs | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz/fn | like the Nitrux devs | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz | he's hijacking their project names | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz/fn | he's hijacking their project names | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/ | Jun 03 22:54 |
schestowitz/fn | http://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/ | Jun 03 22:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza “is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community,” Says Richard Stallman | Techrights | Jun 03 22:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza “is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community,” Says Richard Stallman | Techrights | Jun 03 22:54 | |
schestowitz | https://nxos.org/maui/official-statement-regarding-uxdivers-grial-kit-and-mauikit-com-usage/ | Jun 03 22:55 |
schestowitz/fn | https://nxos.org/maui/official-statement-regarding-uxdivers-grial-kit-and-mauikit-com-usage/ | Jun 03 22:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding UXDivers Grial Kit and MauiKit.com usage — Nitrux — #YourNextOS | Jun 03 22:56 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding UXDivers Grial Kit and MauiKit.com usage — Nitrux — #YourNextOS | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz | they moan about Mono de Icaza and his ilk | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz/fn | they moan about Mono de Icaza and his ilk | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz | Uri Herera is Mexicans | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz/fn | Uri Herera is Mexicans | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz | and most Nitrux devs are too afaik | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz/fn | and most Nitrux devs are too afaik | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz | Context: https://nxos.org/maui/ | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz/fn | Context: https://nxos.org/maui/ | Jun 03 22:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | nxos.org | Maui Archivos — Nitrux — #YourNextOS | Jun 03 22:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nxos.org | Maui Archivos — Nitrux — #YourNextOS | Jun 03 22:56 | |
schestowitz | More: https://nxos.org/news/official-statement-regarding-xamarin-forms-rebranding-as-maui/ | Jun 03 22:56 |
schestowitz/fn | More: https://nxos.org/news/official-statement-regarding-xamarin-forms-rebranding-as-maui/ | Jun 03 22:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding Xamarin.Forms rebranding as MAUI — Nitrux — #YourNextOS | Jun 03 22:57 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding Xamarin.Forms rebranding as MAUI — Nitrux — #YourNextOS | Jun 03 22:57 |
schestowitz | I will prepare a statement on IRC | Jun 03 22:57 |
schestowitz/fn | I will prepare a statement on IRC | Jun 03 22:57 |
schestowitz | to remove confusion | Jun 03 22:57 |
schestowitz/fn | to remove confusion | Jun 03 22:57 |
baronhk1[m] | Like Git Virtual File System having a collision with the GNOME VFS. | Jun 03 22:58 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Like Git Virtual File System having a collision with the GNOME VFS. | Jun 03 22:58 |
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baronhk1[m] | The Microsoft MVP program is a lot like that AOL Community Leader thing. | Jun 03 23:03 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The Microsoft MVP program is a lot like that AOL Community Leader thing. | Jun 03 23:03 |
baronhk1[m] | AOL didn't want to pay people to do tech support and build out their site, so they paid them with free hours on AOL which didn't really cost them much. | Jun 03 23:04 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | AOL didn't want to pay people to do tech support and build out their site, so they paid them with free hours on AOL which didn't really cost them much. | Jun 03 23:04 |
baronhk1[m] | There was a lawsuit over that. AOL lost when courts decided that they were doing work that should be done by paid employees. | Jun 03 23:04 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | There was a lawsuit over that. AOL lost when courts decided that they were doing work that should be done by paid employees. | Jun 03 23:04 |
schestowitz | the troll likes to stab you in the back while pretending to be 'buddies' to your face | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz/fn | the troll likes to stab you in the back while pretending to be 'buddies' to your face | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz | it makes the trolling more effective | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz/fn | it makes the trolling more effective | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz | I am doing a post about the issue | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz/fn | I am doing a post about the issue | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz | baronhk1[m]: if you want to proofread... | Jun 03 23:05 |
schestowitz/fn | baronhk1[m]: if you want to proofread... | Jun 03 23:05 |
baronhk1[m] | Firefox had to change names like three times, iirc. | Jun 03 23:06 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Firefox had to change names like three times, iirc. | Jun 03 23:06 |
baronhk1[m] | It was Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. | Jun 03 23:06 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It was Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. | Jun 03 23:06 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m] | https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 | Jun 03 23:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Bug] Name clash with Maui Linux and MauiKit · Issue #35 · dotnet/maui · GitHub | Jun 03 23:08 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | [Bug] Name clash with Maui Linux and MauiKit · Issue #35 · dotnet/maui · GitHub | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m] | schestowitz: A Microsoft MVP on GitHub became so abusive that a Microsoft employee had to ban him for a week over Code of Conduct. | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | schestowitz: A Microsoft MVP on GitHub became so abusive that a Microsoft employee had to ban him for a week over Code of Conduct. | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m] | "Dan Siegel dansiegel | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | "Dan Siegel dansiegel | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m] | Code Monkey | Microsoft MVP | @PrismLibrary Maintainer | Cross Platform, Xamarin Forms and Azure Consultant" | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Code Monkey | Microsoft MVP | @PrismLibrary Maintainer | Cross Platform, Xamarin Forms and Azure Consultant" | Jun 03 23:08 |
baronhk1[m] | davidortinau commented on May 19, 2020 | Jun 03 23:09 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | davidortinau commented on May 19, 2020 | Jun 03 23:09 |
baronhk1[m] | @dansiegel your tone and style of commenting is violating our Code of Conduct. We have marked the problematic comments as abusive and blocked you for 7 days. If this behavior persists, we’re going to block you permanently. | Jun 03 23:09 |
baronhk1[m] | It’s OK to be passionate but attacking another open source project for any reason is not okay. This is not the kind of community we want to have and such behavior will not be tolerated. | Jun 03 23:09 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | @dansiegel your tone and style of commenting is violating our Code of Conduct. We have marked the problematic comments as abusive and blocked you for 7 days. If this behavior persists, we’re going to block you permanently. | Jun 03 23:09 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It’s OK to be passionate but attacking another open source project for any reason is not okay. This is not the kind of community we want to have and such behavior will not be tolerated. | Jun 03 23:09 |
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baronhk1[m] | There's no telling what Dan Siegel actually said that got to the point that Microsoft invoked the CoC on their own MVP. | Jun 03 23:11 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | There's no telling what Dan Siegel actually said that got to the point that Microsoft invoked the CoC on their own MVP. | Jun 03 23:11 |
baronhk1[m] | Because Microsoft deleted the comments. | Jun 03 23:11 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Because Microsoft deleted the comments. | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz | baronhk1[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz/fn | baronhk1[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ | Jun 03 23:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights | Jun 03 23:11 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz | you make a mess with your sordid views | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz/fn | you make a mess with your sordid views | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz | this is an attempt to mitigate this somewhat | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz/fn | this is an attempt to mitigate this somewhat | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz | see if you can spot typos (I've not yet) | Jun 03 23:11 |
schestowitz/fn | see if you can spot typos (I've not yet) | Jun 03 23:11 |
baronhk1[m] | "for the fake of free speech and privacy" | Jun 03 23:13 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | "for the fake of free speech and privacy" | Jun 03 23:13 |
techrights-bot | #microsoft is censoring its critics, even Microsoft MVPs, in #github https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 #deletegithub ASAP, it's an abusive propaganda and coercion machine http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ | Jun 03 23:13 |
techrights-bot/fn | #microsoft is censoring its critics, even Microsoft MVPs, in #github https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 #deletegithub ASAP, it's an abusive propaganda and coercion machine http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ | Jun 03 23:13 |
baronhk1[m] | sake | Jun 03 23:13 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | sake | Jun 03 23:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | Jun 03 23:13 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | Jun 03 23:13 |
baronhk1[m] | "hang our in IRC" | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | "hang our in IRC" | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m] | out | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | out | Jun 03 23:14 |
schestowitz | cheers, corrected | Jun 03 23:14 |
schestowitz/fn | cheers, corrected | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m] | "our of context" | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | "our of context" | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m] | out | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | out | Jun 03 23:14 |
schestowitz | done | Jun 03 23:14 |
schestowitz/fn | done | Jun 03 23:14 |
baronhk1[m] | Did you mean to say bridged into Libera Chat? | Jun 03 23:15 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Did you mean to say bridged into Libera Chat? | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz | no | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz/fn | no | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz | we don't bridge to that | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz/fn | we don't bridge to that | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz | and it's not ours either | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz/fn | and it's not ours either | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz | I thought MinceR would take control of it | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz/fn | I thought MinceR would take control of it | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz | for now, it's potentially hostiel | Jun 03 23:15 |
schestowitz/fn | for now, it's potentially hostiel | Jun 03 23:15 |
baronhk1[m] | I really don't like Libera Chat. It seems to be an awful lot like a digital tranny farm. | Jun 03 23:15 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | I really don't like Libera Chat. It seems to be an awful lot like a digital tranny farm. | Jun 03 23:15 |
baronhk1[m] | Like that thing that NPR wasted an article on, out in Colorado. | Jun 03 23:16 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Like that thing that NPR wasted an article on, out in Colorado. | Jun 03 23:16 |
baronhk1[m] | They move in there and build a chicken wire fence and stockpile guns to get away from the "oppression by cisgender people". | Jun 03 23:16 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | They move in there and build a chicken wire fence and stockpile guns to get away from the "oppression by cisgender people". | Jun 03 23:16 |
baronhk1[m] | They get more money from donations than they do running this "ranch", apparently. | Jun 03 23:17 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | They get more money from donations than they do running this "ranch", apparently. | Jun 03 23:17 |
baronhk1[m] | Nice hustle. | Jun 03 23:17 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Nice hustle. | Jun 03 23:17 |
psydroid | I think that it's a good thing that it exists, as it could allow for the trolling to mainly happen over there | Jun 03 23:17 |
psydroid/fn | I think that it's a good thing that it exists, as it could allow for the trolling to mainly happen over there | Jun 03 23:17 |
schestowitz | they do receive a lot of abuse though | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz/fn | they do receive a lot of abuse though | Jun 03 23:18 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▂▂▅▃▆▃▃▅▆▇▄▄▅▅▆▃▃▆▅▄▃▄▄▃▆▁▂▅▆▃▁▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 20.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂█▁▁▂▂█▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁█▃▁ avg(k/sec) 60.61▕ swarm size (avg): 237.50 ⟲ | Jun 03 23:18 |
techrights-ipfs/fn | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▂▂▅▃▆▃▃▅▆▇▄▄▅▅▆▃▃▆▅▄▃▄▄▃▆▁▂▅▆▃▁▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 20.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂█▁▁▂▂█▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁█▃▁ avg(k/sec) 60.61▕ swarm size (avg): 237.50 ⟲ | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz | anyway, back on topic pls | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz/fn | anyway, back on topic pls | Jun 03 23:18 |
MinceR | schestowitz: how am i supposed to take control of it? | Jun 03 23:18 |
MinceR/fn | schestowitz: how am i supposed to take control of it? | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz | I think registering the channel | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz/fn | I think registering the channel | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz | and then getting op | Jun 03 23:18 |
schestowitz/fn | and then getting op | Jun 03 23:18 |
MinceR | 04 001918 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- You must be a channel operator in #techrights in order to register it. | Jun 03 23:19 |
MinceR/fn | 04 001918 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- You must be a channel operator in #techrights in order to register it. | Jun 03 23:19 |
baronhk1[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranny - Apparently, Facebook's autoban works on this word. | Jun 03 23:19 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranny - Apparently, Facebook's autoban works on this word. | Jun 03 23:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tranny - Wikipedia | Jun 03 23:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | en.wikipedia.org | Tranny - Wikipedia | Jun 03 23:19 |
baronhk1[m] | Which has stifled their ability to try to "reclaim" it. | Jun 03 23:19 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Which has stifled their ability to try to "reclaim" it. | Jun 03 23:19 |
schestowitz | I would rather talk about real issues | Jun 03 23:20 |
schestowitz/fn | I would rather talk about real issues | Jun 03 23:20 |
schestowitz | like poverty and corporations taking over governments | Jun 03 23:20 |
schestowitz/fn | like poverty and corporations taking over governments | Jun 03 23:20 |
schestowitz | not bathroom stalls, who qualifies for beauty pageants, athletes etc. | Jun 03 23:21 |
schestowitz/fn | not bathroom stalls, who qualifies for beauty pageants, athletes etc. | Jun 03 23:21 |
schestowitz | techrights is about tech and stuff | Jun 03 23:21 |
schestowitz/fn | techrights is about tech and stuff | Jun 03 23:21 |
schestowitz | stop interjecting unrelated stuff | Jun 03 23:21 |
schestowitz/fn | stop interjecting unrelated stuff | Jun 03 23:21 |
baronhk1[m] | The government basically has gotten Facebook to shut down people talking about anything. The bans have gotten to be such a minefield that you can have your account shut down for pretty much anything. | Jun 03 23:21 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | The government basically has gotten Facebook to shut down people talking about anything. The bans have gotten to be such a minefield that you can have your account shut down for pretty much anything. | Jun 03 23:21 |
baronhk1[m] | Matrix is like this too. | Jun 03 23:22 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Matrix is like this too. | Jun 03 23:22 |
baronhk1[m] | I've noticed that there's been a big loss of active users at Facebook. | Jun 03 23:22 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | I've noticed that there's been a big loss of active users at Facebook. | Jun 03 23:22 |
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techrights-bot | #Techrights Official Policy/Statement on #IRC • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ ䷉ #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ | Jun 03 23:25 |
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baronhk1[m] | <schestowitz "not bathroom stalls, who qualifi"> The "news" has been replaced by "Today in bathroom bills and race war.". | Jun 03 23:25 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | <schestowitz "not bathroom stalls, who qualifi"> The "news" has been replaced by "Today in bathroom bills and race war.". | Jun 03 23:25 |
baronhk1[m] | It gets people talking about non-issues. Drowns them out. | Jun 03 23:25 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | It gets people talking about non-issues. Drowns them out. | Jun 03 23:25 |
schestowitz | NPR is funded by Microsoft and Bill Gates | Jun 03 23:26 |
schestowitz/fn | NPR is funded by Microsoft and Bill Gates | Jun 03 23:26 |
schestowitz | many people still use the site because of its text-only version | Jun 03 23:26 |
schestowitz/fn | many people still use the site because of its text-only version | Jun 03 23:26 |
schestowitz | I'm sceptical also of BBC and Guardian for the same reasons | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | I'm sceptical also of BBC and Guardian for the same reasons | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz | bribed media | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | bribed media | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz | IBM is also trying to own the media now | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | IBM is also trying to own the media now | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | probably too late | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz | probably too late | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz | IBM is in a freefall | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | IBM is in a freefall | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz | too many years of really bad managemrnt | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | too many years of really bad managemrnt | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz | 20 years ago they still stood a chance | Jun 03 23:27 |
schestowitz/fn | 20 years ago they still stood a chance | Jun 03 23:27 |
baronhk1[m]/fn | Maybe before they sold their PC business to LOL No! vo. | Jun 03 23:35 |
baronhk1[m] | Maybe before they sold their PC business to LOL No! vo. | Jun 03 23:35 |
techrights-bot | Richard Stallman’s 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #RMS #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ | Jun 03 23:35 |
techrights-bot/fn | Richard Stallman’s 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #RMS #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ | Jun 03 23:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights | Jun 03 23:35 | |
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rbraun | the guardian used to be pretty good | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun/fn | the guardian used to be pretty good | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun | they get a lot of knee-jerk stuff asking for censorship now | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun/fn | they get a lot of knee-jerk stuff asking for censorship now | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun/fn | they do post opposing viewpoints on the left, tho, like this wonderful article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/19/rightwing-misinformation-liberals | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun | they do post opposing viewpoints on the left, tho, like this wonderful article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/19/rightwing-misinformation-liberals | Jun 03 23:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Liberals want to blame rightwing 'misinformation' for our problems. Get real | Thomas Frank | The Guardian | Jun 03 23:37 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.theguardian.com | Liberals want to blame rightwing 'misinformation' for our problems. Get real | Thomas Frank | The Guardian | Jun 03 23:37 |
schestowitz | guardian changed | Jun 03 23:37 |
schestowitz/fn | guardian changed | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun | thomas frank has been smarter than the US democrats for like 20 years, too bad they don't listen to him | Jun 03 23:37 |
rbraun/fn | thomas frank has been smarter than the US democrats for like 20 years, too bad they don't listen to him | Jun 03 23:37 |
schestowitz | they take money from ford, rockefeller and gates, while begging readers to chip in too | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz/fn | they take money from ford, rockefeller and gates, while begging readers to chip in too | Jun 03 23:38 |
rbraun | they made a big mistake in choosing the next editor after rusbridger, IMO | Jun 03 23:38 |
rbraun/fn | they made a big mistake in choosing the next editor after rusbridger, IMO | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz | rusbridger was already bad | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz/fn | rusbridger was already bad | Jun 03 23:38 |
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rbraun | nah he was pretty good, in my view | Jun 03 23:38 |
rbraun/fn | nah he was pretty good, in my view | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz | they had burned sources, they took money from gates | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz/fn | they had burned sources, they took money from gates | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz | even while he was associating with crooks | Jun 03 23:38 |
schestowitz/fn | even while he was associating with crooks | Jun 03 23:38 |
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schestowitz | and under rusbridger they already attacked assange | Jun 03 23:39 |
schestowitz/fn | and under rusbridger they already attacked assange | Jun 03 23:39 |
schestowitz | who had given them many good stories | Jun 03 23:39 |
schestowitz/fn | who had given them many good stories | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun | yeah but they helped out a lot with the snowden stuff | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun/fn | yeah but they helped out a lot with the snowden stuff | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun | and it was nowhere near the bile they've had for assange since 2015 | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun/fn | and it was nowhere near the bile they've had for assange since 2015 | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Viner#Appointment | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun/fn | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Viner#Appointment | Jun 03 23:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Katharine Viner - Wikipedia | Jun 03 23:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | en.wikipedia.org | Katharine Viner - Wikipedia | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun | It has been suggested by author and former Guardian columnist Michael Wolff that another of Viner's rivals to succeed Rusbridger, Janine Gibson, suffered because of internal disquiet over the internal impact on The Guardian of the Edward Snowden revelations which Gibson edited in New York. Wolff said Gibson aligned herself with Snowden, promising more of the same, while Viner "pitched decidedly ... | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun/fn | It has been suggested by author and former Guardian columnist Michael Wolff that another of Viner's rivals to succeed Rusbridger, Janine Gibson, suffered because of internal disquiet over the internal impact on The Guardian of the Edward Snowden revelations which Gibson edited in New York. Wolff said Gibson aligned herself with Snowden, promising more of the same, while Viner "pi <clipped message> | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun/fn | tched decidedly ... | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun | ... against Gibson and, in a sense, against Snowden".[32] Peter Wilby, writing in the New Statesman, preferred a different explanation: "Viner is a more charming, more inclusive and less threatening figure than Janine Gibson, who started as the bookies’ and Rusbridger's favourite."[33] | Jun 03 23:39 |
rbraun/fn | ... against Gibson and, in a sense, against Snowden".[32] Peter Wilby, writing in the New Statesman, preferred a different explanation: "Viner is a more charming, more inclusive and less threatening figure than Janine Gibson, who started as the bookies’ and Rusbridger's favourite."[33] | Jun 03 23:39 |
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rbraun | so, they made their bed with that ^^^ | Jun 03 23:40 |
rbraun/fn | so, they made their bed with that ^^^ | Jun 03 23:40 |
rbraun | now they get to lay in it | Jun 03 23:40 |
rbraun/fn | now they get to lay in it | Jun 03 23:40 |
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techrights-bot | "The normal desktop/flat version? Great! Enjoy it a lot. The VR side just seems to not work on Linux. Shame but now it's using OpenXR perhaps they can work on it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/war-thunder-qred-skiesq-brings-many-new-machines-new-locations | Jun 03 23:41 |
techrights-bot/fn | "The normal desktop/flat version? Great! Enjoy it a lot. The VR side just seems to not work on Linux. Shame but now it's using OpenXR perhaps they can work on it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/war-thunder-qred-skiesq-brings-many-new-machines-new-locations | Jun 03 23:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-War Thunder "Red Skies" brings many new machines and new locations | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 23:41 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | War Thunder "Red Skies" brings many new machines and new locations | GamingOnLinux | Jun 03 23:41 |
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schestowitz | rbraun: yup | Jun 03 23:45 |
schestowitz/fn | rbraun: yup | Jun 03 23:45 |
schestowitz | but tbh, they're not the WORST of the bunch | Jun 03 23:45 |
schestowitz/fn | but tbh, they're not the WORST of the bunch | Jun 03 23:45 |
schestowitz | I means, I'd rank them "middle" | Jun 03 23:45 |
schestowitz/fn | I means, I'd rank them "middle" | Jun 03 23:45 |
schestowitz | compared to daily fail, dun, sunday muroch times etc. | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz/fn | compared to daily fail, dun, sunday muroch times etc. | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz | *sun | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz/fn | *sun | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun | oh i mean | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun/fn | oh i mean | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz | this year I decided to boycott bbc | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz/fn | this year I decided to boycott bbc | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun | with english media, especially tory media, it's turtles all the way down | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun/fn | with english media, especially tory media, it's turtles all the way down | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz | they lie to the public | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz/fn | they lie to the public | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz | state and oligarch propaganda now | Jun 03 23:46 |
schestowitz/fn | state and oligarch propaganda now | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun | yeah the tories holding their funding hostage really did not help them stay impartial | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun/fn | yeah the tories holding their funding hostage really did not help them stay impartial | Jun 03 23:46 |
rbraun | they really need to replace the tv license fee but keep it a public broadcaster | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun/fn | they really need to replace the tv license fee but keep it a public broadcaster | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun | they should do something like finland and just make it a tax | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun/fn | they should do something like finland and just make it a tax | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun | would make them less of a political target overnight | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun/fn | would make them less of a political target overnight | Jun 03 23:47 |
techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151917 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 23:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:47 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151917 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 03 23:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun | staying public also means they stay free-to-air | Jun 03 23:47 |
rbraun/fn | staying public also means they stay free-to-air | Jun 03 23:47 |
techrights-bot | #AtariVCS #GNU #Linux -based game console hits stores June 15 for $300 and up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900#comment-29867 | Jun 03 23:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:50 | |
techrights-bot/fn | #AtariVCS #GNU #Linux -based game console hits stores June 15 for $300 and up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900#comment-29867 | Jun 03 23:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:50 |
techrights-bot | #KaliLinux 2021.2 Official Release Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29868 | Jun 03 23:51 |
techrights-bot/fn | #KaliLinux 2021.2 Official Release Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29868 | Jun 03 23:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:51 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:51 |
techrights-bot | #PneuMat is an interactive shape-changing system to help ensure infants sleep safely | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/03/pneumat-is-an-interactive-shape-changing-system-to-help-keep-infants-sleep-safely/ ䷉ #Arduino #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 23:52 |
techrights-bot/fn | #PneuMat is an interactive shape-changing system to help ensure infants sleep safely | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/03/pneumat-is-an-interactive-shape-changing-system-to-help-keep-infants-sleep-safely/ ䷉ #Arduino #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest | Jun 03 23:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | PneuMat is an interactive shape-changing system to help ensure infants sleep safely | Arduino Blog | Jun 03 23:52 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 23:52 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | blog.arduino.cc | PneuMat is an interactive shape-changing system to help ensure infants sleep safely | Arduino Blog | Jun 03 23:52 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 03 23:52 |
schestowitz | rbraun: remember how they work with intel agencies | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz/fn | rbraun: remember how they work with intel agencies | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz | and boast about it | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz/fn | and boast about it | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz | d-notice and all | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz/fn | d-notice and all | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz | plus the russopjhobia | Jun 03 23:53 |
schestowitz/fn | plus the russopjhobia | Jun 03 23:53 |
techrights-bot | With IBM officials calling all the shots at Red Hat (like Novell’s CEO did, after his long #IBM career, inside SUSE) we need to think carefully of the full ramifications of old proprietary software giants taking over GNU/Linux distributors • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tec | Jun 03 23:54 |
techrights-bot/fn | With IBM officials calling all the shots at Red Hat (like Novell’s CEO did, after his long #IBM career, inside SUSE) we need to think carefully of the full ramifications of old proprietary software giants taking over GNU/Linux distributors • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | <clipped message> | Jun 03 23:54 |
techrights-bot/fn | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tech | Jun 03 23:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesn’t Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights | Jun 03 23:54 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesn’t Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights | Jun 03 23:54 |
techrights-bot | Clarifications about our position and response to various attempts to discredit Techrights based on fabrications, deliberate distortions, and malicious falsehoods Official Policy/Statement on IRC • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #IRC | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ | Jun 03 23:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights | Jun 03 23:54 | |
techrights-bot/fn | Clarifications about our position and response to various attempts to discredit Techrights based on fabrications, deliberate distortions, and malicious falsehoods Official Policy/Statement on IRC • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #IRC | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrig <clipped message> | Jun 03 23:54 |
techrights-bot/fn | hts.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ | Jun 03 23:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights | Jun 03 23:54 |
techrights-bot | At the end of last year #RichardStallman gave this online talk for students at Waterloo, #Canada • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ | Jun 03 23:55 |
techrights-bot/fn | At the end of last year #RichardStallman gave this online talk for students at Waterloo, #Canada • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ | Jun 03 23:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights | Jun 03 23:55 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights | Jun 03 23:55 |
techrights-bot | "How many browsers do we need? How many ticketing systems? How many languages that all have to have a certain set of basic features to be a complete language at all? How many project management methods du jure, etc,?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies | Jun 03 23:58 |
techrights-bot/fn | "How many browsers do we need? How many ticketing systems? How many languages that all have to have a certain set of basic features to be a complete language at all? How many project management methods du jure, etc,?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies | Jun 03 23:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 23:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr/fn | www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 03 23:58 |
techrights-bot | "Grass isn’t greener but I’ll tell you what is better elsewhere - your coworkers. It’s incredible to finally work with motivated, competent coworkers who aren’t arrogant and are willing to learn new things." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain #morale https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies | Jun 03 23:59 |
techrights-bot/fn | "Grass isn’t greener but I’ll tell you what is better elsewhere - your coworkers. It’s incredible to finally work with motivated, competent coworkers who aren’t arrogant and are willing to learn new things." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain #morale https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies | Jun 03 23:59 |
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